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Rocket tanks will start to do in Voronezh

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The first Russian-made titanium balloons instead of Ukrainian ones will be released in December 2017. Spherical fuel tanks are used in the Angara and Proton missiles and the Breeze booster blocks. Production was planned to begin in 2015 at the Voronezh Mechanical Plant (VMZ), the delay is associated with the transition to new technologies. Until now, domestic rocket scientists use stocks of products previously purchased in Ukraine. According to experts, the production of the entire rocket and space technology will start without ballons.


Rocket tanks will start to do in Voronezh


At VSW, it was explained that it took two years to complete the processing of documentation for modern technologies.

The reason for the delay in the serial production of titanium ball-carriers is that they had to be developed practically from scratch. At the Voronezh Mechanical Plant, in fact, they re-worked through all the design and technological documentation. The basis was taken fundamentally different, promising technology of hot stamping, more advanced and productive, allowing to reduce the cost of the product
- told the press service of Vyksa.

From Soviet times, titanium balloon spheres for the Russian rocket and space technology were manufactured at the production association “Southern Machine-Building Plant” (Ukraine, Dnepropetrovsk). In the 2014 year, after the cooling of relations between Russia and Ukraine and the prohibition from both sides of cooperation on the rocket theme, it was decided to organize the production of a balloon in Voronezh, "News"
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  1. reservist
    reservist 25 October 2017 11: 50
    +9
    Many years ago, these balloons were made by Ukrainians. And now there are Ukrainians.

    How many Ukrainians do you need to screw in a light bulb? Actually, one. But he will not screw it.
    Instead, Ukrainians will sit talking to each other about Muscovites who broke their light bulb,
    about Europe, which will give a better light bulb,
    and how sweet they will heal by twisting light bulbs in Poland. belay

    So you have to design from scratch and make these balloons in Russia

    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 October 2017 11: 52
      +5
      Quote: reservist
      Many years ago, these balloons were made by Ukrainians. And now there are Ukrainians.

      How many Ukrainians do you need to screw in a light bulb? Actually, one. But he will not screw it.
      Instead, Ukrainians will sit talking to each other about Muscovites who broke their light bulb,
      about Europe, which will give a better light bulb,
      and how sweet they will heal by twisting light bulbs in Poland. belay

      So you have to design from scratch and make these balloons in Russia



      Ukrainians have gotten so bad .. laughing
      1. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 25 October 2017 11: 56
        +1
        Another nail in the coffin of the Ukrainian space industry. And to us - an increase, which - no.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 25 October 2017 12: 37
          +1
          It is clear why balloons were made of titanium under the Queen - then there was no durable fiberglass. It is clear why in the 90s and zero - they did not want to change what works, and they maintained relations with their neighbors.
          But now, working from scratch, why did they leave titanium?
          what
          1. groks
            groks 25 October 2017 12: 45
            0
            Because the fuel in them is likely to be at a very low temperature.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 25 October 2017 13: 07
              0
              Handbook of Chemist (author G.D.Andreevskaya)
              Fiberglass is suitable for storing liquid oxygen and hydrogen.
              1. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 15: 01
                0
                Are they suitable for storing helium?
            2. opus
              opus 25 October 2017 13: 43
              +3
              Quote: groks
              Because the fuel in them is likely to be at a very low temperature.

              PH "Proton" - all components are high-boiling (AT + NDMG)
              RB "Breeze" - all components are high-boiling (AT + UDMH)
              only PH "Angara" kerosene WG-1 (high boiling) + liquid oxygen (low boiling),
              however, Briz-KM (Briz-KS) - Briz-M KVSK Briz-M KVTK Frigate Briz-M-high-boiling units (AT + NDMG)
              rest

              1. Seamless fuel tank for products of rocket and space technology, not worse but better than composite (for a number of indicators: gas permeability, linear coefficient, degradation when in the heat flow zone of the remote control, dampers and foam suppressors, control gas inlets, frames, a cylindrical part, a bottom with a fuel fitting, fuel tanks must have flanges, one of which acts as a manhole with a diameter of “clear” "Not less than 420 mm, etc.)

              all elements of the body are made as a single unit without welds, while the bottom is made in the shape of a hemisphere in which a fuel fitting is located on the central longitudinal axis, the upper part of the body has an annular extended section for an elastic diaphragm, the diameter of the cylindrical part and the diameter of the bottom hemisphere corresponds to the diameter the hemispheres of the upper part, their thickness is uniform and the same, with one end of the cylindrical part mated seamlessly with the top hemisphere, the other end of the tubular part mating seamlessly with The bottom of the tank is equipped with an additional fitting for supplying the control gas, while the main and additional fittings for supplying the control gas are placed on the hemisphere of the upper part and arranged at an angle to the central longitudinal axis of the body, and their axes converge at the point of its intersection with the plane upper hemispheres; and the frame located between the mating line of the hemisphere of the bottom with a cylindrical part and the location of the fittings for the supply of control gas, the upper part with fittings for the supply of control gas, the frame, the cylindrical part, the bottom with the fitting for fuel as a whole.

              Biological firmness again (for composites)
              / titanium and AMG-6 did not hear, Schaub rats and termites, as well as hawali mold, composites with pleasure /
              .
              ** The test for exposure to rodents is carried out according to GOST 9.057-75 in laboratory conditions. The duration of the test 10 days.
              *** The test for the effect of termites is carried out according to GOST 9.058-75 using a laboratory method (the test duration is 30 days) and in vivo at a thermite test site. 3 test duration of the year ..
              *** Test on the impact of moths and kozheedov carried out according to GOST 9.055-75 in laboratory conditions. The duration of the test 15 days.
              ** The test for the effect of mold fungi is carried out in laboratory and natural conditions according to GOST 9.048-75 and GOST 9.053-75, respectively.


              2. EBN 3D printer developed by the American company Sciaky. This device uses a five-axis scheme with electron beam fusion of a metal bar. The company's customers include Lockheed Martin, DARPA, Boeing and the United States Air Force.

              In fact, EBAM 300 can be considered the largest 3D metal printer: the maximum construction area reaches 6x1,4X1,37 m. In particular, EBAM settings allow printing spherical titanium fuel tanks for spacecraft, and the build rate can reach 10 kg / hour.


              The best (so far) threads IMS 63 Е23 or Т800 SC foreign production
              1. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 15: 00
                0
                Dear opus (sorry, I don’t know the name), you missed one point: these balloons are used to store liquid helium, and its temperature is 4 K. The tank pressurization with helium has not outlived itself.
                1. opus
                  opus 25 October 2017 18: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  I don't know the name

                  Anton I was called ....
                  hi

                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  You missed one thing: these balloons are used to store liquid helium, and its temperature is 4 K.

                  1.all not remember
                  To increase the specific volume of pressurized gas and, consequently, reduce the weight of the system, a heat exchanger is often used, which significantly increases the efficiency of the pressurization system of tanks. To achieve the maximum efficiency of the pressurization system, it is necessary to increase the temperature of the gas (helium) at the exit of the heat exchanger, however, the helium temperature should be limited to prevent the destruction of the most heat-stressed elements of the pressurization system.


                  2.
                  The following pressurization systems exist:

                  - with gas pressure accumulator;

                  - Oscillators;

                  - gas generator;

                  - evaporative, with liquid pressure accumulator;

                  - with injection into the main tank;

                  - with polytropic expansion;

                  - with a powder pressure accumulator;

                  - with auxiliary pumping system.


                  There is a method of boosting the fuel tank with gaseous oxygen, which is formed as a result of evaporation of the fuel component in a special heat exchanger, for example, charging the oxidizer tank of the first stage of the Saturn-5 launch vehicle ...
          2. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 25 October 2017 12: 53
            +2
            Quote: reservist
            Many years ago, these balloons were made by Ukrainians. And now there are Ukrainians.

            Not many years ago. A misunderstanding called Ukraine is only 26 years old.
            The whole history of the city of Dnepropetrovsk, Russian people lived and worked in it.
            But Ukrainians, I agree with you, simply destroyed what they could not create.

            You need to be careful with the definition of "Ukrainians." It can be agreed that now these balloons are made by Voronezh residents, and Samarians make part of the missiles, and earlier Kuibyshev, Ukrainians are of the same “nationality” as Samara, Voronezh, Krasnodar, It’s only worth starting and after a couple of decades they will talk about a thousand-year history of each "nation" of the above.
            1. nmaxxen
              nmaxxen 25 October 2017 14: 09
              0
              I absolutely agree.
              It should only be added that it is impossible to put up with the current division of our people (which was achieved by geopolitical competitors with the support of compradors in the power of the Russian Federation), and that Russian Ukraine should be returned.
          3. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 14: 54
            0
            There are no composites that could withstand the temperature of liquid helium (4 K or -269 C). But titanium can withstand (albeit with a bunch of technical tricks).
            1. opus
              opus 25 October 2017 18: 18
              +1
              Quote: CT-55_11-9009
              No composites that could withstand the temperature of liquid helium (4 K or -269 C)

              And HIS (liquid He) RARELY USE (almost never)
              To date, for boosting fuel tanks DU PH, using the fuel pair "oxygen and WG-1", hot helium found the greatest distribution.

              1 high cylinders pressure with helium placed in an 2 tank with liquid oxygen.The cylinders are connected by pipelines 3 with temperature compensators 4 with the help of automation elements 5 with a heat exchanger 6 engine located in the tail section. The heat carrier of the heat exchanger is, as a rule, the oxidizing generator gas taken after the turbine THA of the marching control unit. Next, heated helium through the 7 pipeline (usually laid inside the tank and without thermal insulation) with temperature compensators 8 is introduced into the free volume of the fuel tank 9.

              and vice versa (KB "Southern") is not 4 K, but 1000с + К
              for boosting the fuel tanks of the remote control of the MBRs, structurally simple (reliable) autonomous generator SN operating on the main components of the fuel were used, however, the gas temperature at the inlet to the tank, for example, the fuel reached 850 ° С.
              here the composite also does not roll wink
              1. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 20: 00
                +1
                Quote: opus
                And HIS (liquid He) RARELY USE (almost never)

                It is rarely used, but it is stored in a liquid or supercooled state. And then to store the right amount of gas would have to rather big such tanks. And, if I'm not mistaken, the pressure in these balloons with helium is about 350 atmospheres ... Yes, from 350 to 450 atmospheres.

                Special thanks for the scheme, drag myself. One moment: it is not clear how the oxidizer tank is pressurized. In pairs of a component in the tank itself?

                Quote: opus
                To pressurize the fuel tanks of the remote control ICBMs, structurally simple (reliable) autonomous generator SNs operating on the main components of the fuel were used, while the gas temperature at the inlet of the tank, for example, fuel, was reached 850 ° C.

                In the case of the AT-UDMH pair, this scheme is beneficial, the use of a similar one with cryogenics is a XNUMX% explosion of tanks ... Well, to whom am I telling you this.
                1. opus
                  opus 25 October 2017 21: 12
                  0
                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  would rather such tanks design.

                  no
                  Liquid Not, or supercooled - what for is not needed.
                  Do not push tea.
                  And for a boost: for the eyes and for the ears:
                  Quote: opus
                  The heat carrier of the heat exchanger is, as a rule, the oxidizing generator gas taken after the turbine THA of the marching control unit. Next, heated helium through the 7 pipeline (usually laid inside the tank and without thermal insulation) with temperature compensators 8 is introduced into the free volume of the fuel tank 9.

                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  Din moment: it is not clear how the oxidizer tank is pressurized. The component pairs in the tank itself?

                  with an acid gas generator (THA).
                  With an oxidizer is easier, with fuel - it is dangerous

                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  In the case of a pair of AT-UDMG, this scheme is advantageous, the use of this with cryogenics is an absolute explosion of tanks.

                  well yes it is current for high boilers
        2. Lycan
          Lycan 25 October 2017 16: 56
          0
          Yes, and jobs.
    2. common man
      common man 25 October 2017 11: 57
      +1
      Quote: reservist
      Many years ago, these balloons were made by Ukrainians. And now there are Ukrainians.

      A very interesting new look at the "neighbors". For me at least. Only probably not all Ukrainians there, Ukrainians remained. But the fact that Ukrainians rule the state is for sure.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 October 2017 12: 18
      +8
      In 2014, after the cooling of relations between Russia and Ukraine and the ban on cooperation on missile issues from both sides, a decision was made to organize the production of balloons in Voronezh,

      Crests themselves chop the branch on which they sit. bully
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  3. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 25 October 2017 11: 59
    +1
    What particularly connected Ukraine with Russia was the space industry. There will be a void on the territory of Ukraine. It is unlikely that Ukraine will be a great agrarian country. This requires high agricultural culture, but without the engineering industry, without mineral plants, this will not happen, and even if the West itself claims to purchase agricultural land
    1. Manul
      Manul 25 October 2017 22: 21
      0
      Quote: Anchonsha
      What particularly connected Ukraine with Russia was the space industry enterprises

      Ukraine is Russia. And a bunch of hohlonationalists, supported by the West, is the same thing to say - the Islamic state is the whole Middle East.
  4. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 25 October 2017 12: 05
    +7
    ... two years took a complete revision of the documentation ...
    Perhaps the past:
    Stalin called the aircraft designer Yakovlev and set the task: to create the best fighter in the world. And he gave a period of 3 months. Yakovlev objected that Americans spend 1,5 years on such a development. Stalin asked in surprise: "Are you an American?"
    The plane was created for three months.
  5. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 October 2017 12: 27
    0
    Well, if you learned to do better, then of course the delay is justified.
    Interestingly, for a long time to establish enterprises on Ukrainian substitution?
  6. Dead duck
    Dead duck 25 October 2017 12: 29
    +6
    Titanium is certainly good, it would not hurt to switch to composites.
    15-25% of weight could win.
    Heavy rockets request
  7. pupsik
    pupsik 25 October 2017 12: 40
    +1
    Not the space industry in Russia, but a pale shadow.
    Pros @ whether it. Low-quality orbiting satellites, we don’t deal with deep space at all, commercial launches were almost completely leaked to the Americans.
    Russia is returning from the former might of Soviet industry to the premature imperial.
    I don’t see the authorities blame for this, it’s just that the people of Russia got such a thing.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 October 2017 14: 19
      +4
      And don’t say godmother! wherever you spit - some pupsiki .....
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 15: 02
      +3
      Quote: pupsik
      I don’t see the authorities blame for this, it’s just that the people of Russia got such a thing.

      Applause ... I really hope that this is sarcasm. Otherwise - it's some kind of shame ...
  8. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2017 12: 44
    +5
    Quote: 16112014nk
    ... two years took a complete revision of the documentation ...
    Perhaps the past:
    Stalin called the aircraft designer Yakovlev and set the task: to create the best fighter in the world. And he gave a period of 3 months. Yakovlev objected that Americans spend 1,5 years on such a development. Stalin asked in surprise: "Are you an American?"
    The plane was created for three months.

    Perhaps the past. But to create a car from scratch, especially since during the war it was hardly welcomed to use something complicated and expensive (your reliability and the main speed of creation were yours) - this is one thing. And here is the finished product, where the documentation - hundreds of kilograms, you need not only to look at it, but also adapt to new realities.
    Well, purely so, for example. The potter made his products (plates). The stove was gas. According to the documentation (technological), he would have to burn his plate for X minutes at the temperature of the furnace in XX citizens, which she gained in XXX minutes.
    And now he has not a gas, but an electric furnace (or something else). Changed (processed) technological documentation. And now he needs to burn the plate not for X minutes, but Y. Well, etc. Even changing and redoing documentation will take time. And what can we say for space components and technologies. It will take time and time. and not because someone slowed it down. Just the time.
    Sorry for the rude example of a potter. But this is usually more clear.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 October 2017 14: 21
      +1
      Then, after a gas stove, it’s delicious to cook borscht in an electric furnace and it doesn’t work laughing
  9. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2017 15: 11
    0
    Quote: Vlad.by
    Then, after a gas stove, it’s delicious to cook borscht in an electric furnace and it doesn’t work laughing

    And do not speak. About 7-8 years ago they made repairs. I somehow frayed in the apartment, and the wife and daughter left for my mother-in-law. So that's about the same situation. the house is gas, the mother-in-law has an electric stove. The first few times in general, as the devil's wife said, that came out