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Project "ZZ". Russia needs Stalin. The Kremlin is building an "ideological foundation"

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In Russia, Stalin can be worshiped again, says Andreas Rüch, correspondent for the Neue Zürcher Zeitung. Stalin needed the "Putin regime." But Lenin worship in Russia is not accepted. Why? Lenin scares the Kremlin with the word "revolution", believes Victor Sebastien, the author of the complete biography of the proletarian leader, written for the centenary of the Russian revolution.



Monument to Stalin. Photo: Clay Gilliland. A source: Wikimedia


Andreas Ryush, correspondent "Neue Zürcher Zeitung", the author of a report from Moscow, believes that “nostalgia for Stalin” is acquiring “more and more interesting shades” in Russia. The journalist sees the roots of Stalin's glorification in the Kremlin: Stalinism "can be used to legitimize the current regime."

The work of the sculptor Zurab Tsereteli is still the largest monument to Stalin in Russia. The monument was erected “with the official blessing” of the Kremlin, the author believes. Earlier, the image of Joseph Stalin in the country was erased - the beginning of that was laid by N. Khrushchev, who gave "impetus to the first wave of de-Stalinization." In 1961, "Stalin's body was taken from the Mausoleum on Red Square, and soon all the monuments to the mustache of the Georgians disappeared," writes Ruche. Stalin became almost a taboo.

After the “perestroika” and the fall of the Soviet Union, many archives were opened, freedom of the press appeared: the people could discuss the “crimes of the Stalinist regime”, as a result of which millions of people suffered.

And here's the paradox: Stalin "returns from oblivion." There is a "new wave of recognition." Some historians point out that in recent years, from 70 to 100, monuments to Stalin (70 bis 100 Denkmäler für Stalin) were supplied, mainly at the initiative of the communists and businessmen.


St. Petersburg, May 2016. Participants of the "Immortal Regiment" parade along Nevsky Prospect.


The Levada Center, a public opinion research institute in Russia, has long recognized the growing popularity of the former "father of peoples." 46 percent of Russians surveyed express a positive attitude towards Stalin (data from the beginning of this year); in 2012, there were only 28 percent. Another survey recently showed that Russians consider Stalin the most outstanding personality of all time (38% of respondents; in 1989, only 12%). At the same time, the share of those who consider massacres in the Stalin era an unforgivable crime has sharply decreased over the past ten years: from 72% to 39%. 25% even consider these crimes "historical a necessity. ”

How can such responses be interpreted? The question, in general, does not exist: if in Germany such a change in sentiment and similar ignorance were ascertained regarding Hitler, this would be a truly terrible, deafening signal, the author believes. In Russia, this picture is somehow “relative”: other sociologists point out that the current Stalinists do not want new repressions, deportations and the re-introduction of a planned economy. At the same time, Stalin is considered a symbol of effective leadership, the fight against corruption and the welfare state (even if this is a historically untenable opinion).

Lev Gudkov believes that the population of Russia does not want a repetition of the Stalin era: "People do not want to live under it."

The new cult of Stalin did not arise naturally, it is "the result of a deliberate policy." On the one hand, the Kremlin recognized the fact of mass repressions under Stalin, on the other - supported his rehabilitation as a wise leader, the father of the country, a symbol of the world role of a strong Moscow.

And this campaign began immediately after Putin came to power, that is, in 2000. First of all, Stalin’s partial rehabilitation is linked “to the ideological foundation of the Putin regime,” the author writes. The Kremlin legitimizes its rule by allegedly protecting Russia from foreign enemies, especially from the United States. The victory over Nazi Germany under Stalin made the country a world power. For the “Putin regime,” Victory Day (9 May) is “the most important political holiday in the country,” reminds Ruche. But the victory of 1945 of the year cannot be celebrated without giving an assessment to the then leader. This is what the “subtle approach” is required for. And Putin expressed his opinion on Stalin in 2009 in the sense that he condemned the repressions, but at the same time “gave the dictator absolution”, noting that the country had come to victory, and therefore it’s impossible to throw a stone at those who led the country to this victory. Putin also considers industrialization a great merit of the Stalin era.

Quilling from here and takes the whole essence of the new "worship of Stalin." There is nothing unexpected or even new for him. Ryush believes that Stalin will get a “normal place” in “official history”, where the Kremlin will write him “as a figure with light and dark sides”. On the other hand, such a "normalization" will mean "eliminating" the exclusive role of Stalin as "the organizer of mass crimes against his own people." The correspondent traditionally compares this role of Stalin “on a global level” with that of Hitler and Mao.

According to the author, the Kremlin’s new approach to Stalinism shows that the Russian state is “dishonestly dealing with the past.” The de-Stalinization is simply "not in the interests of the current leadership." Myths are flourishing in Russia, for example, statements like the fact that "during periods of external threats, a policy of repression is necessary." Hence the well-known attitude in modern Russia towards the liberal opposition: flows of slander are pouring on it, it is called the “fifth column” and even traitors to the Motherland.

In parallel with Stalin, foreign analysts took up the figure of Lenin.

Victor Sebastien wrote one of the most complete biographies of V. I. Lenin. The book was published by publishers on the upcoming anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Interview with Sebastien was taken by the Portuguese subscription newspaper "Diario de Noticias" (translation source - "InoSMI").


An exhibition of vintage cars dedicated to the 110 anniversary of the personal garage of His Imperial Majesty at the Sokolniki exhibition center. 8 March 2017, Moscow. Car "Cadillac Eldorado" and a bust of Vladimir Lenin


At the present time, Lenin "would have been the star of Twitter - this is the main message of this interview. Lenin's favorite word is “shoot.” Lenin is a populist to a large extent, and it is relevant now. Lenin “shamelessly lied, believed that victory was the main thing, he promised everything in the world, offered very simple solutions for very difficult problems, he knew that he needed a scapegoat ...” In modern politics “there are a lot of people like him”. Therefore, Lenin would be the star of Twitter, and his program would fall apart "into unusually simple and short slogans."

Many events of the 20th century, according to the author of the biography, became the answer to the “Russian revolution” of 1917. Victor Sebastien is convinced that “without it there would have been no Hitler, World War II, the Cold War ...” And the legacy of that “Russian revolution” continues to live to this day. Leninist communism gained its followers in some countries of Asia and Africa. In China, the Communist regime still rules.

Regarding the fact that the Russians today are not satisfied with special official celebrations in connection with the anniversary of the revolution, the historian said the following (not forgetting to mention Stalin): “The reasons explaining this are simple and complex at the same time. Putin and his entourage have no problems with Stalin: today they are rehabilitating him not as a communist, but as a great Russian nationalist. They know that it is also impossible to forget about Leninism, because it was part of the life of any Russian older than 40. But Lenin pulls the word "revolution" behind him. And Putin hates him. And, in general, it is clear why: today, reminders that the Russians can get rid of the corrupt and autocratic despot through the revolution are not very welcome ... "

According to the author of the book, Stalin is identified with cruelty and paranoia. However, the Soviet state was built by Lenin. Terror, intolerance and violence, along with the thesis “the end justifies the means” —all this is Lenin. Stalin "only brought" all this "to perfection."

“Give me a hundred people, and I will turn Russia over,” said Lenin. And turned! One of his books, “What to do?”, As the expert points out, is used today by the IG (prohibited in Russia). This book was studied and Hitler. If Lenin wrote today on Twitter, he would give out a short message: “Revolution again!” Yes, he would view the current moment as revolutionary. If the leaders are no longer able to govern according to their usual scheme, and the followers refuse to obey the old scheme, this is a revolution.

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So, according to some foreign journalists and historians, the Kremlin openly acknowledges the fact of the "massacres" under Stalin, heir to the Leninist policy of terror and intolerance. Gently pulling away from Comrade. Lenin, who is already frightened by the very word “revolution”, the current government in Russia whites Joseph Stalin, calling him an outstanding statesman who managed to lead the USSR to victory over Hitlerism. Whitened by Stalin because his figure is needed by the current “regime”: the power in Russia of the 21st century wants to rely on the same totalitarian principles, explaining this by the onset of external enemies and the betrayal of internal enemies. In the West, they believe that this kind of policy is “dishonest” in relation to history, because it creates “myths” and gives rise to incorrect historical conclusions that are convenient for the Kremlin, but have nothing to do with the truth.

Obviously, in Europe, where the role of Stalin is compared with the “role of Hitler,” the winner in the Great Patriotic War is put on a par with the loser.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 25 October 2017 08: 44 New
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    Obviously, in Europe, where the role of Stalin is compared with the “role of Hitler,” the winner in the Great Patriotic War is put on a par with the loser.
    only a perverted mind of arrogant Saxons could think of this!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 25 October 2017 09: 14 New
      +5
      The dog barks, the wind wears. Something like this.
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Obviously, in Europe, where the role of Stalin is compared with the “role of Hitler,” the winner in the Great Patriotic War is put on a par with the loser.
      only a perverted mind of arrogant Saxons could think of this!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 25 October 2017 09: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        The dog barks, the wind wears

        Liberasts bark, and some listen.
        "Pure truth will triumph over time,
        If he does too, what a dirty lie! "
        1. stas
          stas 25 October 2017 11: 08 New
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          Dude has such a mess in his head that even liberals get sick.
          But a market capitalist flea market, even with Putin’s face, is not needed and is dangerous by a new revolution.
          We need evolution.
          We need a social state, of a socialist type with a Russian face, without EP and DAMA, where power is actually owned by the people, and not just on paper and the tsar.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 25 October 2017 13: 26 New
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            Quote: stas
            We need a social state, of a socialist type with a Russian face, without EP and DAMA, where power is actually owned by the people, and not just on paper and the tsar.

            And so it was with us, the welfare state until 1991. The state built by Lenin and Stalin. But as they say, - "What we have is not stored, but lost by crying." We exchanged social programs for chewing gum, sausage and jeans, now we flounder between capitalism and socialism. Stalin’s “repressions” cannot be compared with the territorial, industrial, and human losses Russia suffered during the years of the liberal Sabbath. The Westerners feel nostalgia for those times when Russia was weak and any manifestation of independence and independence in defending their interests causes them to associate with the "bloody" Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. He was a good man. For order in the country and in the world.
            1. stas
              stas 25 October 2017 13: 36 New
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              If Putin said that our goal is a social state of a socialist type, then more than 80% of voters will come to the presidential election and at least 90% will vote for it.
              But the Tsar, to increase the turnout in the elections, gives us Sobakin joy with a horse's mug.
              The king is on guard of a market capitalist fascist economy.
              And then we are rubbed that for him 86%.
              Manipulation, he is supported, because others from the opposition are even worse than him.
              Is it worth it to go to the polls of Putin at all, if everything has already been decided without us.
              For legitimacy, the king needs at least 50% of the voter turnout, otherwise he will not be a real king.
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 25 October 2017 14: 48 New
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                Quote: stas
                If Putin said that our goal is a social state of a socialist type, then more than 80% of voters will come to the presidential election and at least 90% will vote for it.

                Well, I don’t know, all the same, 25 years of brainwashing with liberals, such as it was bad during the Union, and as a result of this liberalization, the stupidity of young people ... Here is an example: I watched a video the other day on YouTube where Andrei Kochergin talked about Putin’s policies. He reasoned in my opinion correctly, didn’t blame anyone for anything, and that’s not the point, who is interested in finding and looking, the matter is different: he looked at the comments after the video ... Oh horror, “yes you are stupid g ... but "," stupid x ... oh, look at the street, see how well we live, what you don’t like, "in general, one mat-mate, and GDP is our everything, the whole world is afraid of it! It's good that at least there are wise people in VO who can be debated with.
                Quote: stas
                For legitimacy, the king needs at least 50% of the voter turnout, otherwise he will not be a real king.

                The fact is that you have to choose the lesser of all evils, if not the GDP, then the rest whom they offer us worse.
                1. dep071
                  dep071 25 October 2017 15: 42 New
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                  The fact is that you have to choose the lesser of all evils, if not the GDP, then the rest whom they offer us worse.


                  Your last thesis is the result of washing, if not who, remember the history of the crying people at the funeral of Stalin, only he saved the country or what? And the people who worked to exhaustion? You need to believe in yourself and in yourself, and he who is on the podium, he is a folk servant. You should not offer anyone, you yourself choose !!!
                  1. SERGUS
                    SERGUS 25 October 2017 15: 47 New
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                    Quote: dep071
                    remember from history the crying people at the funeral of Stalin, only he saved the country or what? And the people who worked to exhaustion?

                    Something now people do not work to exhaustion, so do not underestimate the role of the leader in the team.
                    Quote: dep071
                    You should not offer anyone, you yourself choose !!!

                    How do you imagine that ?
                2. alexxxz
                  alexxxz 25 October 2017 18: 33 New
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                  Everything is so, but during the reign there were no qualitative changes in the economy. Take a look around you. What is surrounding you made in Russia? Nothing? Not alarming? And due to what then does the country live? Where does the money come from? The answer is simple - natural resources. And what will remain for the grandchildren? Let's crown him to hell and officially declare the owner of the Russian land! Maybe then the budget peeling will end?
                  1. SERGUS
                    SERGUS 26 October 2017 10: 32 New
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                    Quote: alexxxz
                    Where does the money come from? The answer is simple - natural resources.

                    I would also like to add agriculture, to be honest, so far this is the only industry in which we have succeeded.
                    Quote: alexxxz
                    Everything is so, but during the reign there were no qualitative changes in the economy. Take a look around you. What is surrounding you made in Russia? Nothing?

                    In addition, we are systematically integrating into the global economy, all sorts of WTOs, and this does not contribute to the development of our own industry. If it weren’t for sanctions to haven’t developed at all, at least they would have been toughened up !?
                    1. alexxxz
                      alexxxz 26 October 2017 17: 48 New
                      +1
                      That's why we buy imported apples (Poland) in supermarkets and buy tomatoes (Turkey / Azerbaijan) ...
                      Great agriculture with us!
                      And about the WTO - not at the box office at all!
                      I lived in Kabarda for 15 years. There they don’t know where to put these apples.
                      1. alexxxz
                        alexxxz 26 October 2017 17: 52 New
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                        Poland is also a member of the WTO, but their apples and strawberries are in our stores.
                      2. SERGUS
                        SERGUS 27 October 2017 10: 23 New
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                        Quote: alexxxz
                        Great agriculture with us!

                        Not ideal of course, but still sell the grain. He had to buy it in the Union.
                        Quote: alexxxz
                        That's why we buy imported apples (Poland) in supermarkets and buy tomatoes (Turkey / Azerbaijan) ...

                        Everything is complicated here, I think that if you dig deeper, kickbacks, collusion, etc. will come up. It is not in vain that farmers often say that it is difficult for them to get to store shelves.
              2. Orionvit
                Orionvit 25 October 2017 16: 35 New
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                Quote: stas
                Is it worth it to go to the polls of Putin at all, if everything has already been decided without us.

                If, as you say, the “king” would have a real fullness of power laid down by law, there would be fewer questions. Please tell me, how many presidential decrees in Russia have been recently executed, and not put on the brakes, by liberal officials? My advice to you, go cry to another place, or maybe you still remember the 90s with nostalgia? Or the best option, come to Ukraine, get a job, live at least a year, and then you are the first, you will carry Putin in your arms. Although judging by your statements, you do not like Russia in any way, and dissatisfaction with the so-called “tsar” is just an excuse to add dirt.
                1. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 25 October 2017 19: 41 New
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                  Quote: Orionvit
                  Please tell me, how many presidential decrees in Russia have been recently executed, and not put on the brakes, by liberal officials?

                  Tell me, why does the president not require officials to comply with his decrees, for example, why doesn’t he remove Chubais from the post of head of the Rosnano?
                  Quote: Orionvit
                  Or the best option, come soda to Ukraine

                  Life by principle is worse than development does not imply.
                  Quote: Orionvit
                  If, as you say, the “king” would have a real fullness of power laid down by law, there would be fewer questions.

                  Now the president does not have all power? Are you serious, are you not mistaken?
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit 25 October 2017 20: 22 New
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                    Quote: SERGUS
                    Tell me, why does the president not require officials to comply with his decrees, for example, why doesn’t he remove Chubais from the post of head of the Rosnano?

                    Do you even think when you write? You ask a question, and then you answer it yourself, the truth is also a question.
                    Now the president does not have all power? Are you serious, are you not mistaken?
                    1. SERGUS
                      SERGUS 26 October 2017 10: 03 New
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                      Quote: Orionvit
                      If, as you say, the “king” would have a real fullness of power laid down by law, there would be fewer questions.

                      Yes, yes, yes, poor president, shackled hand and foot, his party in the Duma in the minority, cannot push through any laws, but still tries his best for the good of the people ... You were either zombied or you are in the wrong you live in the country.
                      1. Orionvit
                        Orionvit 26 October 2017 10: 34 New
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                        Quote: SERGUS
                        You are either zombified or you live in the wrong country.

                        Yes, I live in another, I would even say, “amazing” country, but maybe that’s why, the political situation in Russia, for some reason I know better than you. My advice to you is to listen to opposition liberal channels less, and at least sometimes jump from your own wave. All your "arguments", removed from the rallies of Navalny, and the like. Heard more than once.
                    2. SERGUS
                      SERGUS 26 October 2017 12: 27 New
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                      Quote: Orionvit
                      Yes, I live in another, I would even say, “amazing” country

                      If there is no bread in an “amazing” country, this does not mean that we in Russia should be grateful to the authorities all our lives for a piece of bread and a cup of soup, Russia with its natural and mental resources should be among the world leaders, and not look back at " amazing "countries in which there is a civil war. Let’s give us an example of some Congo, where people eat from hunger. I repeat once again: life by the principle is worse than development does not imply, and the lack of development is degradation!
                      Quote: Orionvit
                      but maybe that’s why, the political situation in Russia, for some reason I know better than you

                      I didn’t think so.
                      Quote: Orionvit
                      All your "arguments", removed from the rallies of Navalny, and the like.

                      Some (not all!) Of Navalny’s arguments are absolutely correct, only the fact is that Navalny is an American schl ... ha feeding on money from the State Department and pressing on sore callus in their interests (and the interests of the State Department) and not in the interests of the well-being of the people.
              3. weksha50
                weksha50 25 October 2017 19: 11 New
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                Quote: stas
                If Putin said that our goal is a social state of a socialist type,


                The Constitution of the Russian Federation, article 7, paragraph 1 "1. The Russian Federation is a social state whose policy is aimed at creating conditions ensuring a decent life and free development of man" ...

                Well, what is there to say ??? Need to do, implement ...
                On paper, the Constitution is the MAIN law of any self-respecting country ... So let it REALLY become and will be the main law of the Russian Federation ...

                Especially, probably, it will be practically impossible to implement article 19 ...
                "1. All are equal before the law and the court.
                2. The state guarantees the equality of human and civil rights and freedoms, regardless of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official position, place of residence, religion, beliefs, membership in public associations, or other circumstances.
            2. dep071
              dep071 25 October 2017 15: 38 New
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              It’s even interesting, what kind of human losses were in the 90s compared with repressions? Or for example, territorial losses? Republics in which now, as then, family dynasties rule? Maybe Ukraine, not small funds were invested in it?
              It’s not the tears that need to be shed, but people, the country of the RSFSR, to develop if you want, and not feed everyone in a row and not restore order throughout the world, and we are trying to revive Stalin and we will work hard for comrades to work, and we’ll go to the authorities for slander.
              In the USSR, the Kings were the same, only the dynasty was a party, with your mustachioed favorite. We must pay tribute to him, of course, he was a genius man, but very bloodthirsty, like all emperors, kings, etc.
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 25 October 2017 16: 04 New
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                Quote: dep071
                It’s not tears that need to be shed, but people, the country of the RSFSR, to develop if you want, and not to feed everyone in a row and not restore their order around the world

                Well, the USA brings us orders around the world. Do you confuse anything?
                Quote: dep071
                all of us are trying to revive Stalin and we will work hard for our comrades for workdays, and we’ll go to the authorities on slander.

                So if you don’t work, how are you going to develop, lying on the sofa, tapping your fingers on the keyboard, and watching how the next official found an apartment full of money?
                Quote: dep071
                In the USSR, the Kings were the same, only the dynasty was a party, with your mustachioed favorite. We must pay tribute to him, of course, he was a genius man, but very bloodthirsty, like all emperors, kings, etc.

                To criticize all the excuses: it is too cruel, this one, this one. Tell me your opinion, who is the best ruler of Russia in its history? Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin ?
              2. your1970
                your1970 25 October 2017 16: 35 New
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                Quote: dep071
                It’s even interesting, what kind of human losses were in the 90s compared with repressions? Or for example territorial losses?
                Well, in general, Kazakhstan and Ukraine have disappeared - now separate states from the Russian Federation. Not the smallest by the way and not the most useless ....
              3. alexxxz
                alexxxz 25 October 2017 21: 24 New
                +3
                The number of those who perished in the Gulag is greatly exaggerated in favor of fashion trends. And among them, most were convicted of real misconduct. Treason was considered a failure to fulfill the production plan by the factory. And the director was responsible for this, who, as a rule, simply took the unrealistic plan under the hood, and did not defend, reasonably, its unreality. If he could justify, but did not do it, then he let others down, because counted on him. And if he could not justify, it means incompetent and had to voluntarily leave an important post. Dashing, of course, wrapped. But time was like that. But WHAT RESULT!
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 25 October 2017 22: 20 New
                  +6
                  The result is simply amazing, probably the only one in the history of human civilization. For two five-year periods, from the destroyed GV, an agrarian country created a powerful industrial power. A simple person in Russia always lived hard, especially to the peasants, but what Stalin laid in the 70s of the last century was transformed into the most socially oriented society on the planet. all developing countries dragged on. The Soviet experience was very attractive. Even the Europeans who had been fed by the "meager" masons, who were with us, envied our way of life.
            3. weksha50
              weksha50 25 October 2017 19: 04 New
              +5
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              now floundering between capitalism and socialism.


              To be honest, we, in Russia, have some kind of new ISM .... Socialism is dying, it remains declared only on paper (in the Constitution, supposedly the main law of the country) ... Capitalism is somehow perverted ... Nobody cares about expanding jobs, nobody cares about the growth of industrial potential ... They only care about the growth of consumer sentiment among the population ... Where can they come from, if they really throw their brains ??? !!!
              In general, we have some special KLISM ...
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 25 October 2017 22: 40 New
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                Veksha.

                The crisis of capitalism means a fall in the purchasing power of the population.

                Will you borrow from everyone who will give?


                Get a debt clamp, like in the USA.
          2. prokaa
            prokaa 25 October 2017 15: 57 New
            +4
            And ...... THE KING, TRUE.
            And liberals and Westerners, here are fewer to listen to .... FOR ALL LIES.
            including and about Stalin.
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 25 October 2017 16: 42 New
              +5
              Quote: prokaa
              . FOR ALL LIES.
              including and about Stalin.

              It’s not even a lie, it’s just frank nonsense. Lenin created Hitler, and Stalin, Hitler and Putin are one and the same. The message is clear, this Andreas Ryush has a clearly clinical case, like the whole western one near a political party.
          3. Oleg Tolstoy
            Oleg Tolstoy 25 October 2017 16: 20 New
            +5
            Plusanul, in the general. But. Even if the entire executive power belongs to the "king", but this king should not be elected by the primary democratic procedure, and then extend his powers in a good election. He must be specially selected, prepare for half his life, and then when the time comes, to become king, until "retirement" and be responsible for the life of the people, and the integrity and well-being of the land entrusted to him, his life .. And when "all power belongs to the people" this means that or it does not belong to anyone, or belongs to a bunch of usurpers rogues
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        3. Alikos
          Alikos 25 October 2017 15: 44 New
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          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Liberasts bark, and some listen.

          "Russia needs Stalin ..."
          We need a Socialist system, we need the USSR AND YES!
          We need a wise Stalin, only of non-Jewish bloods, and then again, the God-chosen ones will fool the people and be dragged into some rubbish. Arrange genocide of the Russian people kind of an excuse to fight with something
        4. Pancir026
          Pancir026 26 October 2017 09: 06 New
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          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Liberasts bark, and some listen.

          Exactly, here’s a phrase from the article “Lenin’s favorite word is“ shoot. ”Lenin is a populist to a large extent, and this is still relevant. Lenin“ shamelessly lied, believed that victory was the main thing, he promised everything, offered very simple solutions for very difficult problems, I knew that he needed a scapegoat ... "" -interestingly, this questionable freshness and truth is a quote to someone Pivovarov and K belong to? Well, to listen to this breed of intellectuals, we don’t have anything good at all.
          But the essence is simple, those who carry such nonsense are simply afraid. That the ideas of one of the greatest thinkers of mankind in Russia will once again take over the masses. We look at China. We understand that in 90 years the intelligentsia, coupled with higher and average party nomenclature and crime, led the country with development paths on the path of almost self-destruction. And now, when the pangs of pseudo-democracy and the so-called liberalism are dispelled. It becomes clear, all the chatter of the brewers, tsipko and the like, FALSE.
          The next conclusion of the article is "Delicately moving away from Comrade Lenin, who is already terrified by the very word" revolution ", the current government in Russia whitewashes Joseph Stalin, calling him an outstanding statesman who managed to lead the USSR to victory over Hitlerism." Oh her, since you recognize the truth of Stalin. alas for you, you will have to admit the rightness of Lenin too, for Stalin would not have taken place without October and without the ideology that V. Lenin personified.
          By the way, for the wise men from among the so-called pure Marxists, who are in great numbers among the intellectuals, who think of themselves as conditionally “left”, and frankly anti-Russian and anti-Soviet, you did not know what Marxism-Leninism was. Lenin was right, and Marx was monstrously mistaken, who in some of his works is characterized by the most black anti-Slavism and Russophobia.
    2. privateer2000
      privateer2000 29 October 2017 13: 08 New
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      stopudovo Impudent Saxons are frightened and already start to be afraid ... hehehehe .... KS2000
  2. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 25 October 2017 08: 46 New
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    Stalin is a builder, a faithful companion of Lenin who put his ideas into practice. Even if not all .. Lenin is a creator, inspirer. And that’s all. It seems that you need to raise them both.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 October 2017 08: 52 New
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      Quote: Mar. Tira
      raise them both.

      + Felix Edmundovich!
      1. This
        This 25 October 2017 15: 38 New
        +2
        + Lavrenty Pavlovich!
        1. your1970
          your1970 25 October 2017 16: 39 New
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          Quote: Taka
          + Lavrenty Pavlovich!
          -Let first put to the wall those who released in 1940 and loot received for 97% of the defect 45 mm armor-piercing shells for the most massive PT gun at that time. then........
          And there it will be seen ....
      2. polpot
        polpot 25 October 2017 21: 39 New
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        Perhaps now and Sudoplatov with Eitingon not interfere
    2. Standard
      Standard 25 October 2017 11: 25 New
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      Quote: Mar. Tira
      . It looks like you need to raise both of them.

      First, you still need to figure it out.
      Other times, other persons.
    3. aws4
      aws4 25 October 2017 12: 01 New
      0
      Well then what ?????????????? Stalin canceled a lot of what was introduced under Lenin ... well, what kind of successor is he ??? do not give out wishful thinking
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 25 October 2017 14: 26 New
        +2
        Well, what is good today can acquire a completely different meaning tomorrow .... Has the construction of the social state retained the main line?
      2. SERGUS
        SERGUS 25 October 2017 15: 05 New
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        Quote: aws4
        Well, what kind of successor is he ???

        Well, at least he himself said that, probably he knew better.
      3. sunzhenets
        sunzhenets 25 October 2017 17: 03 New
        +4
        Your opinion has been refuted long before your birth by Comrade Stalin himself:
        .... Engels said that the proletarian revolution with the program outlined above cannot happen in a single country. But the facts say that in the new conditions of the class struggle of the proletariat, under the conditions of imperialism, we have basically carried out such a revolution in a separate country, in our country, by implementing nine-tenths of its programs.
        Zinoviev may say that we made a mistake by implementing this program, by implementing these points. (Laughter.) It may well be that we have allowed some “national narrow-mindedness” by implementing these points. (Laughter.) It could very well be. But one thing is still clear that what Engels believed in the 40s of the last century, under the conditions of pre-monopoly capitalism, was impracticable and impossible for one country, became feasible and possible in our country, in conditions of imperialism ....
        .... Lenin was the first to resolve the question of the victory of socialism in one country.
        It must be admitted, comrades, that it was Lenin, and not anyone else, who discovered the truth about the possibility of the victory of socialism in one country. Lenin cannot rightfully be taken away. One must not be afraid of the truth, one must have the courage to tell the truth, one must have the courage to say openly that Lenin was the first of the Marxists who in a new way raised the question of the victory of socialism in one country and resolved it in a positive sense.
        I don’t mean at all to say that Lenin, as a thinker, was superior to Engels or Marx. I want to say only two things by this:
        firstly: it is impossible to demand from Engels or Marx, no matter how brilliant thinkers they are, that they foresee in the period of pre-monopoly capitalism all the possibilities of the class struggle of the proletariat and the proletarian revolution, which opened up after more than half a century, in the period of developed monopoly capitalism;
        secondly: it is not surprising that Lenin, as a brilliant student of Engels and Marx, managed to notice the new possibilities of the proletarian revolution in the new conditions of the development of capitalism and thus discovered the truth about the possibility of the victory of socialism in one country.
        One must be able to distinguish between the letter and the essence of Marxism, between individual provisions and the method of Marxism.
        Lenin managed to discover the truth about the victory of socialism in one country because he considered Marxism not a dogma, but a guide to action, he was not a slave to the letter, and was able to grasp the main, the main in Marxism ....
        Collected Works, Volume 8. All-Union Conference of the CPSU (B.) October 26 - November 3, 1926, Closing remarks on the report on November 3
    4. dep071
      dep071 25 October 2017 15: 52 New
      0
      You will not succeed, because Our Cyril will be against such an action, it’s only so well arranged, and then these two "... religion is opium for the people." laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
      And what did Stalin build then? Read Marx, the ideological mastermind of Ilyich.
      What are you looking for all the hosts for yourself? Let's get right back to 1937 !!!


  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 October 2017 08: 51 New
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    The journalist sees the roots of Stalin's glorification in the Kremlin: Stalinism “can be used to legitimize the current regime”

    I did not guess the journalist. Everything is much simpler. People watching what is happening in the world and their country wants a simple but powerful hand in power. So that this hand will not only restore order in the international arena, but also domesticate the embezzlers, snickering bureaucrats and outright enemies of the state entrenched in various HSE, media ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 25 October 2017 12: 37 New
      12
      Gennady hi love my regards! All right write, the trouble with our liberals is that they were not lucky with the people. As soon as they do not pull this people to the "light of liberalism", and it is underdeveloped, everything slides to terry totalitarianism, conservatism and a strong hand. Here is a "byad" ... laughing
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 October 2017 16: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: rotmistr60
        The journalist sees the roots of Stalin's glorification in the Kremlin: Stalinism “can be used to legitimize the current regime”

        I did not guess the journalist. Everything is much simpler. People watching what is happening in the world and their country wants a simple but powerful hand in power. So that this hand will not only restore order in the international arena, but also domesticate the embezzlers, snickering bureaucrats and outright enemies of the state entrenched in various HSE, media ...

        You did not try to read documents TOGO time ?? Read ....
        In December 1934, the People's Commissariat of Communications of the USSR held a meeting on the fight against theft (this must be read separately - about the then oligarchs, majors and corruption, including the NKVD(I strongly recommend everyone to read these documents of those times)), and on June 15, 1935, a new radio roll-call took place, at which the People's Commissar Rykov summed up the disappointing results of a year and a half of the fight against mail thieves:
        “For the first quarter of 1935, the most striking figure is the double payments for money transfers. In 1934, double payments for the quarter amounted to 1153 thousand rubles; for the first quarter of 1935 double payments reached 1487 thousand rubles, i.e. increased compared to what we had in 1934. Fake and unapproved transfers are also at a very high level, they reach 1935 thousand rubles in the first quarter of 543. Theft, embezzlement and miscalculations decreased slightly, but remained still at a very high level, reaching 2180 thousand rubles per quarter, last year we collected an average of 2650 thousand rubles per quarter, in the first quarter of 1935 we recovered a total of 2162 thousand rubles, along with a reduction in theft and embezzlement with growth of double payments, we have an increase in theft of parcels and letters: 1934 parcels were stolen in the IV quarter of 2600, 1935 were stolen in the I quarter of 7700. Letters were stolen in the fourth quarter of 1934, 2200, and 1935 in the first quarter of 2600. We have achieved some reduction in theft, embezzlement due to forged documents there. In 1934, this amounted to more than 4 million on average per quarter, in the first quarter of 1936 - 2180 thousand, but nevertheless the number of thefts remains unacceptably high "- 4 MILLION QUARTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all our corrupt officials like Vasilieva cry in the sandbox, 8 billion colonel smokes nervously on the sidelines ... With that money, 4 million is the current billions, again IN THE QUARTER. And what examples are there (!!!!) - who stole like that. I counted on tanks / planes / PPSh - the divisions are possible to arm for the money ..... And this is a banal mail, in which there is practically no money .....
        Read less nonsense like Solzhenitsyn and more documents of those times
        The terrible villain and bloodsucker Stalin, yeah ......
  4. aws4
    aws4 25 October 2017 08: 55 New
    +3
    the first photo is clearly not a bust of Comrade Stalin ... it is interesting that this is a mistake or a deliberate substitution of the photo
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 October 2017 09: 14 New
      +5
      This is a monument to M. Frunze !!!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 25 October 2017 09: 24 New
        +5
        Well, have changed!
  5. XII Legion
    XII Legion 25 October 2017 08: 57 New
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    Great people like Stalin are born once every 200 years.
    But the oligarchs and the type of politicians who "mow" under this image - enough
    A closed society can only be socialist. The oligarchy behind the Iron Curtain (as we are building now) will lead to only one
    It’s a pity that they don’t understand
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 25 October 2017 09: 14 New
      10
      Why is the slogan “Russia needs Stalin” thrown in?
      This is perfectly understood by the one who throws it in.
      Stalin = this is another era. Another social formation. Based on private ownership of the main means of production .. This is a completely different world ..
      To transfer Stalin to capitalism means to work for the capitalists .. Stalinist methods ..
      1. XII Legion
        XII Legion 25 October 2017 09: 16 New
        21
        You are absolutely right
        hi
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          1. Mestny
            Mestny 25 October 2017 15: 00 New
            +1
            So what is the result? To do what? laughing
            Here at the comrade Orthodoxy of the brain was diagnosed, and rightly so.
            What about your brain? About the king of some stubborn expression in the early 20th century.
            If this is not a banter of course.
            1. stas
              stas 25 October 2017 16: 24 New
              0
              This is a banter, so that a specific surname along with the koment is not deleted, to raise the patriotism of Russian citizens.
      2. prokaa
        prokaa 25 October 2017 16: 04 New
        +8
        All lies, especially about methods.
        Many talkers, work so hard .... LIFT MATERIALS BY NUMBER OF POPULATION, IN THESE YEARS.
        TO FINISH A CHATTER ABOUT CERTAIN REPRESSIONS, OF WHICH, REALLY IT WAS NOT.
        1. efendia
          efendia 25 October 2017 20: 35 New
          +1
          Well, it was not in vain that the documents for that period were first opened for a short while, and when those fabulous millions of executed were not there, they again took and classified. So nonsense! And if we compare England or the states with the same period, then there, as it were, no more than Stalin sat and executed there, as statistics came across. Very interesting info in the book "Another Stalin", the truth is hard to read, but it is clear - not read.
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 25 October 2017 09: 01 New
    18
    You can compare the country's achievements over the incomplete 30 years of Stalin’s rule and what we see now, through 30 years of disaster. That's all, questions will disappear by themselves. And this despite the fact that we have not survived either the Finnish war or the Great Patriotic War lately.
    1. Standard
      Standard 25 October 2017 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      And this despite the fact that we have not survived either the Finnish war or the Great Patriotic War lately.

      But the information is getting older. What a victory in an information war might look like is the question.
    2. efendia
      efendia 25 October 2017 11: 50 New
      13
      Stalin didn’t have his own people who were handed over, they planted them with confiscation for corruption, and the officials worked and did not chat like they were, and did not drag the money of children and relatives over the hill, but developed their country. And mass repressions are nothing - a fiction. It can be compared with Europe and America during the same period - there it was no less sat.
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 October 2017 17: 01 New
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        and again about the stealing officials ... "they worked and did not talk like non-Russians, and did not drag the money of children and relatives over the hill, but developed their country." - especially Vladimirov / Belokopytov - as much as the smoke developed ...

        Yes, you read the documents of those times - the current should cry with envy .... 4 million per quarter with that money (when the T-34 cost 300 rubles) stolen only by postal employees only in ONE city

        "In Voronezh, someone without any verification worked Belokopytov, who
        stole a bag from 39.500 rubles. Head of fear department Andreev
        wrote an invoice, but this invoice was destroyed by Belokopytov.
        We learned about this only when we began to request a bank, which
        said that his bag, That his money, please give it back ... After that,
        we began to search, and found out that Belokopytov on this bag, received from
        Narcomfin, bought a house in Voronezh, began to furnish it, and
        the current tradition of planting green spaces around
        . By this
        became interested, began to say why we have such a house and green
        there are no plantings, but he has everything. When Belokopytov found out that his bag
        interested, he, of course, escaped.

        In the Mines, the postal car was allowed to work without any verification
        a certain carbut who immediately stole 24 thousand rubles. and hid.
        Professional thief Demyanenko was admitted to work in Astrakhan,
        who was sentenced to 10 years, escaped from exile, came to work for us
        and now stole 20 thousand rubles.
        "
        And this is for those who squeal about executions / confiscations under the bloody Stalin and the terribly not corrupt NKVD .....
        "But this is not everywhere and not always possible to do. So, in Rostov, beg. police refused
        to arrest a person convicted of sending forged transfers.

        It’s clear that the latter took advantage of this and hid.
        In the Kiev region, Pinikovsky stole money and for it was
        sentenced to public censure. Western Communications Worker
        management Vladimirov for fraud and embezzlement was sentenced to 10 years
        imprisonment but his forgot arrest, he left. "
    3. sunzhenets
      sunzhenets 25 October 2017 17: 09 New
      +4
      inkass_98 Today, 09:01
      You can compare the achievements of the country in less than 30 years of Stalin's rule and what we see now, after 30 years of disaster.

      You can still compare the achievements from 2000 to 2017 and from 1924 to 1941. And once again make sure that it is argued that
      Stalinism "can be used to legitimize the current regime."
      not allowed. The comparison is not in favor of the "current regime".
  7. tasha
    tasha 25 October 2017 09: 02 New
    +9
    because his figure is needed by the current “regime”: power in Russia of the 21st century wants to rely on the same totalitarian principles, explaining this by the onset of external enemies and the betrayal of internal enemies.


    Not without this, I must admit.
    Russia does not need Stalin. We need to learn how to find and put at the head of the state and society people who are ready to limit themselves in desires for the sake of others. And at the same time, do not expect gratitude from others for their deeds and actions for the country ... Those who know how to drive humanity with kicks to happiness ... "And do it with respect ...." hi
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 14: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: tasha
      We need to learn how to find and put at the head of the state and society people who are ready to limit themselves in desires for the sake of others. And at the same time, do not expect thanks from others for their deeds and actions for the country ... Those who know how to drive humanity with kicks to happiness ... "And do it with respect ...." hi

      That is a lot of Stalin.
    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey 25 October 2017 14: 32 New
      +3
      Well, we’ve found it, but how do we set it up? “Cute oligarchs, you have real power, but there are good and smart people here, give them power? Ah, well, please, ah ...
    3. weksha50
      weksha50 25 October 2017 19: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: tasha
      Not without this, I must admit.
      Russia does not need Stalin. We need to learn how to find and put at the head of the state and society people who are ready to limit themselves in desires for the sake of others. And at the same time, do not expect gratitude from others for their deeds and actions for the country ... Those who know how to drive humanity with kicks to happiness ... "And do it with respect.
      ..."


      Oh, utopian ... hi Well, by God, I would reread forty forty times a day ... Without jokes ... After all, I expressed what many people have a pain in their souls, but now we don’t know how to do it ...
      And after all, what a dirty trick ... Wordplay: all dirty tricks are in power, starting with the local one - we choose ...
      Enchanted country, or what? request
  8. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 25 October 2017 09: 03 New
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    ... In the West they believe that this kind of policy is “dishonest” in relation to history, since it creates “myths” and gives rise to incorrect historical conclusions convenient for the Kremlin, but having nothing to do with the truth.
    Obviously, in Europe, where the role of Stalin is compared with the “role of Hitler,” the winner in the Great Patriotic War is put on a par with the loser.

    The hatred of the Anglo-Saxons and their allies for Stalin is understandable. The West so carefully raised Hitler to fight communism and at the same time for the genocide of such “wrong Russians”, while Stalin and the Soviet people defeated him. Such an unpleasant bummer about all their plans! yes
  9. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 25 October 2017 09: 08 New
    +2
    Archimedes said: "Give me a fulcrum, and I will turn the earth."
    Lenin: "Give us an organization of revolutionaries - and we will turn Russia over!"
    (“What to do?” (1902): “I worked in a circle that set very broad, comprehensive tasks, and all of us, members of this circle, had to painfully suffer from the pain of knowing that we were handicraftsmen in such a historical moment, when one could, altering a well-known saying, give us an organization of revolutionaries and we will turn Russia over! ”Lenin ПСС т 6)
  10. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 25 October 2017 09: 08 New
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    The article is biased and everything in it is distorted. We need strong state power, which will not be shy to use force against thieves and murderers. We need elements of a planned economy. And we need reasonable censorship, at least on TV. How much dirt and ugliness we are shown about our people, suggesting that besides alcoholics and drug addicts there are no normal people. Is that true? I believe that censorship is simply necessary in this regard.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 October 2017 09: 34 New
      +9
      Quote: Vasya Vassin
      The article is biased and everything in it is distorted

      the article is generally not even from a journalist, but a review of the author of Western opinions and not a bit of his own. At least that we would know how they think.
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 25 October 2017 09: 54 New
      +3
      "Alimony" of a planned economy is not needed. You can not be a little pregnant
      The planned economy in the United States itself rolls over
      Censorship is not reasonable. Media in the hands of oligarchs - they have one goal - making a profit and educating chewing consumers
      Without morality in society - censorship will not help
  11. mat-vey
    mat-vey 25 October 2017 09: 16 New
    +6
    Andreas Ryush urgently to a psychiatrist - what kind of Stalin and the oligarchs are in one bunch of power? Is this how you need to hit your head?
  12. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 25 October 2017 09: 31 New
    +1
    How long will the “opinion” of geyropa be right for our judolibers. Where are you 1937 - the year of merciless struggle with the fifth column, unfortunately far from over.
  13. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 25 October 2017 09: 49 New
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    Oh don’t tell my sneakers! Yes, the liberals led by Putin fear Stalin like hell incense! Putin just uses rhetoric about the USSR and Stalin to brainwash the electorate.
  14. 34 region
    34 region 25 October 2017 10: 03 New
    +4
    According to the author of the book, Stalin is identified with cruelty and paranoia. However, the Soviet state was built by Lenin. Terror, intolerance and violence, along with the thesis “the end justifies the means” —all this is Lenin. Stalin "only brought" all this "to perfection." winked Well, of course! It was Lenin and Stalin who were cruel paranoid! And what did they do with the carriers of red ideas in their beloved West? What did they do with them in Finland, Germany, France? There were no repressions against them? What did they do with the red * noble * white? what
    According to the author, the Kremlin’s new approach to Stalinism shows that the Russian state is “dishonestly dealing with the past.” The de-Stalinization is simply "not in the interests of the current leadership." Myths are flourishing in Russia, for example, statements like the fact that "during periods of external threats, a policy of repression is necessary." Hence the well-known attitude in modern Russia towards the liberal opposition: flows of slander are pouring on it, it is called the “fifth column” and even traitors to the Motherland. crying And what's wrong with that? winked What is the libel? What have they done for the homeland? Or do they have a homeland where their money is? what
  15. Thracian warrior
    Thracian warrior 25 October 2017 10: 18 New
    +1
    In the USSR, for 70 years, rulers were first Jews, then Georgians, then 2 Ukrainians.

    Everything, the system has burst.

    laughing
    1. Standard
      Standard 25 October 2017 11: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      In the USSR, rulers were 70 years old ...


      These are the rulers of the Communist Party, and those of the state. This system has burst.
      But in only the state we did not live. Although it is believed that Stalin intended.
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    3. Alikos
      Alikos 25 October 2017 15: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      USSR 70 years rulers were first Jewish


      Where are you looking?
      Now they are in power again. Like in Ukraine ...
  16. DimanC
    DimanC 25 October 2017 10: 19 New
    +1
    Of course, Lenin will be in the shadows, because it was Stalin who fully implemented the programs of socialist and communist construction, and ordinary people were fully able to use all this (those who wish to write about the Gulag, please do not worry).
    1. Standard
      Standard 25 October 2017 11: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: DimanC
      Of course, Lenin will be in the shadows, because it was Stalin

      Simple: Lenin is a theorist, Stalin is a practitioner.
      1. SERGUS
        SERGUS 25 October 2017 16: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Norma
        Simple: Lenin is a theorist, Stalin is a practitioner.

        Wow theoretician, he took and became the head of state.
  17. sergo1914
    sergo1914 25 October 2017 10: 41 New
    +3
    "Many events of the XX century, according to the author of the biography, were a response to the" Russian revolution "of 1917. Victor Sebastien is convinced that" without it there would be no Hitler, World War II, the Cold War ... ""

    Why did I read this? Victor Sebastien is an eccentric with the letter "m". Lenin created Hitler and the Cold War, planted an atomic bomb for Vladimir Vladimirovich ...
  18. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 25 October 2017 10: 51 New
    +7
    Everything, as usual - when Western animals with their perverted brains write about Russia, we get a smelly vinaigrette from half-facts and poop of their false interpretation. Insanity and venality are the creed of the Western savage.
  19. nikvic46
    nikvic46 25 October 2017 11: 04 New
    +7
    “Money again for fish” The debate is at the level of the oriental sages who argued where the stick began and the end. What is from us
    do political scientists want to know? Which power is better. I and the people were not asked when they signed the Bialowieza Agreement.
    We were not asked when the grandson of Gaidar invited a pack of Peace Corps from the United States to rewrite history in the minds of the Russian people. The mentality of modern capitalists began to differ from the pre-revolutionary merchants. The merchants did not forget
    their pocket, but how much they built hospitals with their own money. These buildings still stand. Shuttles did more than that
    for the people in the 90s. And the current one for a cent will be strangled.
  20. Standard
    Standard 25 October 2017 11: 07 New
    +4
    The West believes that this kind of policy is “dishonest” in relation to history, since it creates “myths” and gives rise to incorrect historical conclusions convenient for the Kremlin, but having nothing to do with the truth.
    Obviously, in Europe, where the role of Stalin is compared with the “role of Hitler,” the winner in the Great Patriotic War is put on a par with the loser.


    The author was mistaken: Stalin was the winner in the Second World War (and not just in the Patriotic War).
    This is important, since Europe celebrates its liberation, and not victory.
  21. Pacifist
    Pacifist 25 October 2017 11: 08 New
    +5
    The Merkel mode or the Trump mode, as well as the Macron mode are more suitable for determining the mode. With regards to Stalin, we have his modern version in the most correct sense (economic and political sobriety of thinking, and the desire for greatness of the country). Only one thing is enough, to stop playing bad games in "democracy" according to the scenarios of liberal geeks, when every scum on the content has the opportunity to carry complete crap about our country with a proud look. For example, to introduce criminal liability for denying the rightful and legitimate choice of the people of Crimea to join Russia and belong to the territory of Crimea as Russia, as an analogue, according to the example of some countries, of the Holocaust denial law and at the same time introduce a system of fines for such statements from 1 million rubles. Scum must be punished. In the absence of inevitability of punishment, no exhortations will apply. An example of this should be taken from China. The integrity of the country is purely an internal affair, and with parting they put on the opinion of all the Americas and their whining mongrels.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 25 October 2017 14: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Pacifist
      In the absence of inevitability of punishment, no exhortations will apply.

      Are you talking about Serdyukov and Vasilyeva?
      1. 97110
        97110 25 October 2017 18: 31 New
        0
        Quote: mat-vey
        Are you talking about Serdyukov and Vasilyeva?

        No, it's about Ksyushad.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 25 October 2017 18: 44 New
          0
          So these inevitably not received punishment of all and you will not remember ...
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  23. sania5791
    sania5791 25 October 2017 11: 29 New
    +2
    Even your idol Stalin could not build a country like the states, all the time clumsyly copied inventions, and now we cannot.
    The atomic bomb is a copy, a jet engine, a helicopter, a grenade launcher, a car, a TV, a computer, a GPS, a thermal imager ... ... The same thing.
    You want Stalin again to be dispossessed and to a stall, well, well, a flag in your hands, clowns are brainless, go learn to knock and write denunciations.
    Only a free person can create something cool, like in Japan, the states and Europe, and go to the basin yourself.
    1. tasha
      tasha 25 October 2017 12: 27 New
      +7
      Why do you have so much anger? You well? I am very happy for you ...
      I saw a funny movie on the Internet. Zoo macaques, in warmth and comfort, threw feces at visitors. From idleness, probably. Still invented, nowhere to put the mind wink
    2. groks
      groks 25 October 2017 14: 29 New
      +7
      Well, our Democrats 25 built "the same" and something extremely badly happened. Banging for this money, which, as someone thought, would be enough for 4-5 Stalinist industrialization.
      If we had everything stolen, then this means superiority, and overwhelming, of our special services. I. This means an equal technological level - otherwise, where to poke the stolen goods?
      In a helicopter, the main thing is not a screw from above, but a swashplate, and this is 11 years old, Yuryev B.N. . Jet engine - Hieron, it is BC. I remember the TV - Zvorykin, but Theremin too. With the rest, too, not everything is unambiguous (s).
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 25 October 2017 18: 51 New
        0
        The cradle seems to have been engaged in jet engines for a long time, but the war is .... and this is for Tukhachevsky’s dynamo-jet cannons ... but what was the name of the warrior in the USSR for this canoe with satellites (well, is that even a satellite?) .. Thermal imager - "Pipe", no? and so on and so forth ... Although when you consider that the bearings, electrical equipment and the same chemistry of the USSR were practically done from scratch ...
      2. 97110
        97110 25 October 2017 21: 01 New
        0
        Quote: groks
        Banging for this money, which, as someone thought, would be enough for 4-5 Stalinist industrialization.

        Nothing "banging" Everything went into the matter: who paid for the yacht, who bought the baby boy. But industrialization - oh well her. Ecology will still suffer. They began to carry out deindustrialization in Ukraine, they had to burn tires. Even raguli fainted from clean air, only smoke from the tires and escaped.
    3. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 14: 42 New
      +9
      Quote: sania5791
      Even your idol Stalin could not build a country like the states, all the time clumsyly copied inventions, and now we cannot.

      Mmm, the feed arrived ... By the way, yes, I agree, New Zealand can do little, that's right.
      Quote: sania5791
      Atomic bomb - copy

      There is one. But the hydrogen bomb was first made by ours.
      Quote: sania5791
      jet engine

      Stibring was not complete, and the one that was - the Germans.
      Quote: sania5791
      helicopter

      Parallel development, backlog - even before the Second World War.
      Quote: sania5791
      grenade launcher

      Again the Germans. Before the war (and at its beginning) we had enough anti-tank rifles.
      Quote: sania5791
      car

      The Germans, they had the first one was created ... the Americans slammed with them, if that.
      Quote: sania5791
      TV

      This is another question from whom it was developed first.
      Quote: sania5791
      компьютер

      The first - the British and Germans, not Pendejo.
      Quote: sania5791
      jp es

      Even without GPS, we normally find the way. Even "strong on the horns."
      Quote: sania5791
      You want Stalin again to be dispossessed and to a stall, well, well, a flag in your hands, clowns are brainless, go learn to knock and write denunciations.

      How many anger and slander in one sentence ... In the stall, just you, western inhabitants. Since your happiness is to devour, fuck and neigh over a stupid television show. Clowns - it’s written back to itself. Squealing and denunciations - Yes, we need to learn this, and you, "free people", know how to do this ...
      Quote: sania5791
      Only a free person can create something cool, like in Japan, the states and Europe, and go to the basin yourself.

      “Quiet Don” by Sholokhov, “The Master and Margarita” by Bulgakov (controversial work), “Doctor Zhivago” by Pasternak (even more controversial), “Picnic by the side of the road”, “It's hard to be a god”, etc. Strugatsky, the films "War and Peace", "Quiet Don" created in the "damned clogged Gulag scoop" and are among the best world works of art. And these are the works that I offhand remembered. Something does not fit ...
      What is created in Japan? Oneme? Yeah ... By the way, the classic anime is great, but what is being produced today is g ... but. Japanese literature - not in the know, do not blame me. But, they say, worthy writers are there.
      What is created in the States? Hollywood - ambiguous. Many really beautiful films were shot there, but consumer goods for cattle pour out several orders of magnitude from there ... Literature - yes: books by Mark Twain, Schopenhauer, Hemingway, Shaw, Bradbury and others (again offhand, writing laziness for everyone) is among the best works . Only obviously not orders of magnitude more than ours. By the way, call me at least one great New Zealand writer, please. Just wondering: do they exist at all?
      In Europe - well, these are different orders. And if you count at least the regions of Europe - then at least parity.

      So you can freely proceed on g ... but, only then keep it in yourself. Or does work require?
    4. SERGUS
      SERGUS 25 October 2017 17: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: sania5791
      Only a free person can create something cool, like in Japan, the states and Europe, and go to the basin yourself.

      It's okay, we ride on the basins, it's better than living in free Europe among homosexuals!
      Quote: sania5791
      jp es

      Are you serious, but who invented the satellite?
      Quote: sania5791
      You want Stalin again to dispossessed

      You are probably some Ulyukaev that are so much afraid of dispossession?
      Quote: sania5791
      Even your idol Stalin could not build a country like the states

      He didn’t have such a goal to build a "country like states" where everything is sold and bought - the country is a prostitute, they found another example.
  24. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 25 October 2017 12: 51 New
    +5
    Wow, how cool liberals are twirling history and personalities, and why is this all happening, but because LENIN and STALIN are political Lumps that are recognized all over the world. And what they did, the current leaders of Russia and liberals of all stripes HAVE NEVER REPEAT, no one has had such a pace of development of the economy, education, medicine, science, culture in the history of mankind. And this is where all this howl of liberals, lousy tuziki, pugs can’t be surpassed by you, you are not the same people, weak in mind, body, spirit, about professionalism, honesty and love for your PEOPLE and FATHERLAND I do not say two examples in The period of gangster liberalism in the EBNets board died out from 4 to 6 million citizens of RUSSIA, and now from 22 to 35 million. RUSSIAN CITIZENS live below the poverty line according to various sources. And the farther, the more people will read, adore, take an example and take the best from these GREAT OUR COMPLIANTS, the youth on the Internet will find a lot of interesting things about them, how they worked, lived, related to their PEOPLE and COUNTRY, which they had morally - moral standards. As ordinary boys were with them, they could become either a minister or the Chairman of the Council of Ministers, a talented designer, writer, musician, actor, academician. What is now IMPOSSIBLE to achieve.
    1. dep071
      dep071 25 October 2017 16: 13 New
      0
      in the history of mankind no one has had the pace of development of the economy, education, medicine, science, culture

      All these rates were post-war, from scratch, we were catching up and are now catching up. They took technologies upgraded and forward, no one looked back.

      EBNets died from 4 to 6 million citizens of RUSSIA, and now from 22 to 35 million. RUSSIAN CITIZENS live
      , well, under Stalin and Lenin they didn’t die out or the poor were not, for a bag of grain, if he didn’t give it away, but hid it: "ten years." What do you write something, let's get to the point: what needs to be done now in the country in order to move the economy as well.
      No one ever claimed that these two leaders of our country have no place in world history, only their model of the country's structure does not fit with the current trend. Maybe you need to develop yourself, study, work, eh? We have so much ideology and religion in all media that you can go crazy, and no one can offer an ACTION PLAN, only words words words
  25. three-track
    three-track 25 October 2017 12: 53 New
    +6
    At that time, the Russian Orthodox Church was sick with the new Nikonshchina, the rapprochement with the Vatican — he was the midwife of Nazism, rapprochement with the ZRPTS — who also collaborated with the Nazis, the canonization of Nicholas II, complete immorality, the seizure of land for churches, trade, serving the golden calf of church servants, luxury.
  26. groks
    groks 25 October 2017 12: 57 New
    +4
    Putin and his entourage have no problems with Stalin
    Yes? Putin recognized Katyn, and Zakharov can’t eat straightforward because of his “love” for Stalin.
  27. Tishka
    Tishka 25 October 2017 13: 09 New
    +7
    Stalin spoke quietly, puffing with a straw, and the whole world listened with a shudder!
    Brezhnev, grumbled, stammered, but the world listened carefully!
    Putin, screaming, punches himself in the chest, proving how cool he is, but to the world, he doesn’t give a damn about it, his daughters are there, behind a hill, and that means he is under a cap!
  28. Roman 11
    Roman 11 25 October 2017 13: 16 New
    +3
    Ugh, again this tyrant with a mustachioed PR ... damn it, we still have crazy nuts Stalin and Terrible their idols. These 2 fools were noted in history by no means childish pranks - one strangled Metropolitan, another "unfinished spiritual seminary" blew up a symbol for the people - the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Yes, for some reason, climbed into the tomb to Tamerlan? well, the lord of the East lay to himself and let him lay centuries before that did not touch. And here this one appeared and he had to climb and count the bones? Kapets, who else of the idols of our loonies has qualified for such feats?

    About the immortal regiment! Is this mass insanity? Why are these columns with portraits of heroic ancestors? This idiocy cannot be analyzed, can paganism be like that? Well, they remembered culturally and modestly in the circle of relatives, why stick out their memory from the inside out? to whom are you demonstrating? yourself? what do they remember? This is the same as Stalinism and the other twists of homo sapiism.

    Well, let's also demonstrate elementary things in large quantities, for example brushing your teeth, cleaning apartments (take vacuum cleaners, brooms, mops for mass processions), etc.

    Schizophrenia is a contagious thing fool
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 October 2017 13: 59 New
      +9
      You probably have bitten schizophrenics! And you have foam and blood dripping from your fangs! Urgently to Kashchenko!
      Quote: Novel 11
      Schizophrenia is a contagious thing
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 25 October 2017 14: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        you have foam with fangs and blood drips

        Argued! a lot of facts laughing

        What other evidence?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 25 October 2017 15: 26 New
          +3
          But I’m embarrassed to ask a learned person - who is the “metropolitan”? Chief Metro Chief?
          Or here is an "unfinished spiritual seminary." Is it necessary to understand that a seminar is a seminar, but not finished him yet?
          I don’t even want to ask about the “lord of the east” and the “symbol of the people”.
          They say idiocy instead of idiocy, and probably sometimes representatives of one well-known nationality write strictly.
          For representatives of this same nationality and all sympathizers I will explain about the immortal regiment.
          These are our heroically ancestors. Without them, and their feat, we would not have been. Most of us understand this very well, including the youngest generation. And we want everyone, including ourselves, to say this again - they haven’t gone anywhere, they are with us spiritually. Not in the kitchen, in the family circle, behind a locked door, but with us in the sense of country and people.
          I do not advise putting in our country the memory of the grandfathers killed in the war on a par with brooms and mops. Just try to imagine that your people are advised the same thing - to equalize in your ancestors' memory both sausage and chewing gum.
          The theme of this memory is still untouchable for most of us for any comparisons, and as before, a person who publicly taunts our memory and the way in which it is expressed risks immediately being ruined by a sharp blow with a solid object.
          Right on greasy, impudent lips, slapping about our savagery and barbarism.
          1. sunzhenets
            sunzhenets 25 October 2017 17: 36 New
            +3
            Mestny, that's how I took it off the tongue. I’ll add about “Vladyka Tamerlan” - there is such a science, archeology is called. It is a pity that Roman11 did not hear about her. And the “lord” is an appeal to the clergyman of the episcopal degree (patriarch, metropolitan, archbishop, bishop).
            Citizen Roman 11, when trying to call someone crazy and schizophrenic, first show the text to the teacher of the Russian language. Illiteracy greatly devalues ​​your certainly the only true opinion.
            P.S. Tell us more about Metropolitan Tamerlane, very interesting.
          2. Roman 11
            Roman 11 25 October 2017 19: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Mestny
            publicly mocking our memory and the way it is expressed, it risks being immediately damaged by a sharp blow with a solid object.
            Right on greasy, impudent lips, slapping about our savagery and barbarism.

            Here! Completely exhaustive, and even with the prefix publicly mocking La la do not, go ..... flaunt your memory.

            As for the Temple, Temples and sarcophagi, yes, I think so .... I can’t wait for a new despot? It will not disappear from us, some will crawl again and sprinkle with millions, we will have a lot of loonies who will stay wink
        2. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 26 October 2017 01: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: Novel 11
          What other evidence?

          And you carefully read your nonsense, this is the evidence. And if you do not understand, ask the psychiatrist on duty, he will explain! hi
          1. Roman 11
            Roman 11 26 October 2017 10: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            if you do not understand, ask the psychiatrist on duty, he will explain!

            They, doctors, after the "case of doctors" of 1953, a little complex sad In general, the “Kremlin” was enough, there was only one diagnosis - self-masochism, part of people or creatures who need rods, barbed wire and guillotine of the soul don’t dwell in tyrants, this is not the case with any country ... one in the past He told me that there were several “gallows” in his district (district), 1 immediately hanged himself, in 5 (2-3 veins were cut) the first attempt was unsuccessful. What do you think? to retire (back in the mid-1s) all 80 hanged themselves for several. years old. He even pulled one out of the loop, saved, but then he climbed into the loop anyway. So, one of his favorite topics was Stalin (suicides).

            The order was with many, the other thing was not all sadists ... but we have a lot of declassified elements who need an executioner who would torture them - they themselves are tormented in this life and do not know its charms, and they think that it makes sense is - in torment, what can I say? Declassed element (Stalinoids).
      2. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 25 October 2017 14: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Urgently to Kashchenko

        On the one hand - a lot of honor, on the other - really first-class specialists are needed. Here, it seems, not only schizophrenia, but also rabies, possibly enhancing manic syndrome. Even to comment, I'm sorry, this waste of life of a certain Roman11 is disgusting ...
    2. groks
      groks 25 October 2017 20: 36 New
      0
      metropolitan
  29. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 25 October 2017 14: 55 New
    +4
    Grandmother, grandmother, and there were repressions under Stalin. There were granddaughters, there were. Was there anything good? The order was. The imperial consciousness of the Russian people requires order and justice. Those who hold power slip Stalin to us in order to justify those sacrifices and distortions in the economy that are caused by the lack of a competent policy for the development of the state and the inflation of the military budget at the expense of ordinary Russians. If Putin believes that Stalin is right, then he should do what the first prime minister of Singapore bequeathed. When asked what is needed to defeat corruption, he answered very simply: Plant your two friends. You know why and they also know why. Either the rule of law over personal relationships, or ultimately the collapse of the state. If the government finds the strength to restore order in its own ranks, then it will not be necessary to raise taxes and close hospitals.
  30. iouris
    iouris 25 October 2017 14: 59 New
    0
    As soon as the "foundation" is let down, there will be an oligarchic dictatorship.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 25 October 2017 15: 40 New
      0
      You have problems with your memory, they forgot about the seven-bankers.
  31. Mestny
    Mestny 25 October 2017 15: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: Silence
    Putin screams, punches himself in the chest, proving how cool he is

    I beg, at least one reference, even the most overwhelming.
    Or is it in your mind that cockroaches sing so harmoniously?
  32. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 25 October 2017 15: 11 New
    0
    Quote: stas
    For legitimacy, the king needs at least 50% of the voter turnout

    2112% voted for Putin in Moscow in 46.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 25 October 2017 19: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: 16112014nk
      2112% voted for Putin in Moscow in 46.


      Hmm ... Moscow is far from all of Russia ...

      But in general, it is unlikely that he will survive until 2112 ... So do not worry, Muscovites ... laughing
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 25 October 2017 21: 56 New
        0
        Why, I went too far! A reservation, so to speak, according to Freud.
  33. Igor Semirechensky
    Igor Semirechensky 25 October 2017 15: 28 New
    +3
    Is it still unclear to anyone that the exposure of the "cult of personality" was necessary precisely to the undead Trotskyists like Khrushchev, who under Stalin paved their way to power on the corpses of honest and talented party and Soviet, public and church leaders, high professionals, then to blame their own crimes on an imaginary "cult of personality" and create a real "cult of impersonality", instead of Stalin's strict demands on the cadre, ensuring their complete irresponsibility and inevitable bourgeois degeneration, which would eventually destroy the USSR? But “Unlike 1917, social instability ... extends not only to one sixth of the land, but also to all other continents of the globe. Only a ... Russian dictatorship can prevent a local Russian catastrophe and its global consequences ... the choice will be made ... in one direction: whether the nationally oriented bourgeoisie will win ... or the bourgeoisie ... comprador. " (ANTIPENKO L. G. The mind and the will of the commander ... M., 1995. P. 30-31), who understand enough? Indeed, the fact of the matter is that Trotskyism is not only not an invention of Stalin, but even now it threatens peace quite realistically and specifically. Isn’t it a secret of Polisinel that, having skimmed off the USSR and keeping there his destructive agents, in whose ranks only a blind man will not see many of these from Bolotnaya or Maidown, the Trotskyites moved their nest to their own organized criminal group of the USA, where now they completely control both parties, Congress and Senate, right? And what is the current globalization liberalism of TNCs and world financial capital, if not the fascism of the world, not communist, but liberal Trotskyism, clearly shown in the torn apart Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine?
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  34. Vladimer Barantsev
    Vladimer Barantsev 25 October 2017 15: 29 New
    +1
    A fusion of cheating and ignorance. The world revolution and building socialism in one country are different concepts. The author of the article is a swindler!
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  36. Cynic
    Cynic 25 October 2017 15: 38 New
    0
    If something, then some, purely psychologically, cannot RESPECT, they can only worship and understand those who can, are not capable ...
  37. rus-5819
    rus-5819 25 October 2017 15: 49 New
    +1
    In Russia, one can again worship Stalin, says Andreas Rüsch, correspondent for Neue Zürcher Zeitung. Stalin needed the “Putin regime”

    You can worship, you may not specifically worship Stalin, but the order of Russia
    (not to the Putin regime) is simply necessary and the order must be tough in everything and for everyone (utopia, of course, but as we would like).
    Historically, Russia became strong precisely with the "bloody satraps" such as Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Stalin ... As soon as the power fell "at the mercy of the favorites", Russia decayed and burnt to the delight of the Germans, French, Anglo-Saxons and their descendants across the ocean. ..
    So the “stick” of Russia will not hurt, but whoever Putin will hold in his hands or whoever else is not important (if only Kudrin with Chubais and Medvedev would be a triumvirate).
    It is still important to limit his country and not dream of "Living space" and "Lebensraum"(English, German)
  38. Alexander Mazin
    Alexander Mazin 25 October 2017 16: 03 New
    +4
    How can one rehabilitate Stalin, and at the same time spread rot for Lenin? This is cunning, for Stalin is a direct follower of Lenin’s state policy. Without Lenin, there would have been no Stalin (there would have been no USSR, socialism and Russia itself).
    As for the hatred of the revolution. If a schoolboy told us about this, we would have forgiven him for such a limitation. But the head of state himself speaks about this! So he has no idea what revolution is! Moreover, we have repeatedly heard from him about the revolutionary developments of our engineers (for example, the Su-57). It seems that Putin really does not understand that revolutions are not created in squares and barricades, but in the quiet of classrooms, and they are aimed not at destruction, but at creation. Without revolutionary developments, we still would not have known a steamer, or an airplane, or a telephone, or a PC, or a Su-57. After all, no one is smashing the aviation industry in order to begin to build a fundamentally new product? In any case, any designer of KB, tell him about these plans, will simply put the initiator out the door. Especially for Putin: A fundamentally new State system must be built on a long-established technology that does not provide for any barricades and unrest. Lenin did not have such an opportunity, but Putin has it.
    Regarding the topic of publication, the ideological foundation. Neither the RAS, nor the State Duma with the Federation Council, nor the government know what it is and how this foundation is created. The maximum that they are capable of is to pile "a bunch of stones", and wishful thinking. But the construction of the foundation is also preceded by a zero cycle. Moreover, we also need "geological surveys" to begin this very zero cycle. What it is? They do not know. Lenin and Stalin knew, and current scholars have no idea what it is.
    Before embarking on "breaking firewood," Putin needs to study the topic. Not to get acquainted, but to study. Doesn't know where and how? Let him ask, tell.
  39. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 25 October 2017 16: 04 New
    0
    Quote: aws4
    Well then what ?????????????? Stalin canceled a lot of what was introduced under Lenin ... well, what kind of successor is he ??? do not give out wishful thinking

    The fiendish demons Lenin and Dzerzhinsky (all non-Russian Russophobes and the evil destroyers of the Russian Orthodox Church) sent to Russia took power in Russia by fraudulent decrees on peace and land, and held it with the bloody terror of the tribunals. Polubes, Georgian Russophile Stalin managed to send them (in different ways) to hell - respectively in 1924, 1926 and 1940. He came to real personal power in 1927, and all the dirty deeds of the Bolshevik dictatorship have been hung on him since 1921, and even since 1917! In 1928, Stalin at least somehow revived the prosecutor’s office and the court, supervision of the investigation and the court, in 1936 he gave the country the Constitution of the USSR, then the most democratic in the world! Yes, he brutally suppressed REAL military-Trotsky conspiracies, forced and repressed the industrialization and collectivization of the NECESSARY COUNTRY, but he revived the POWER that could withstand and defeat its enemies and those around her. For this he is glory! Although without remission and forgiveness of many of his sins and mistakes. And let the western uninhabited dogs howl - we will revive the POWER ...
  40. L10n77
    L10n77 25 October 2017 16: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: 16112014nk
    Quote: stas
    For legitimacy, the king needs at least 50% of the voter turnout

    2112% voted for Putin in Moscow in 46.

    Are you a guest from the future? In 2112, Putin is still alive and leads the country, then I’m calm, you can retire and wait for grandchildren.
  41. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 25 October 2017 16: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: dep071
    It’s even interesting, what kind of human losses were in the 90s compared with repressions? Or for example, territorial losses? .


    “By the territorial”, Not yet, but by “But KRYMNASH” will be soon! .. Give free rein to the dwarf male and his “state in the state” they, “northern territories” (sorry, southern for us) for the sake of a gas pipe to Japan, surrender without a single shot! Russian hockey (KHL) has already been fully redesigned for PR and other interests of Gazprom. Powerful Chinese hockey, even more powerful - Estonian! wassat For now, they will be sucked up with the kunaks in the Chinese direction, but they will soon switch to Korean-Japanese, the Japanese and I will play hockey, we are already playing in the same league. -Asian And in this League for the Russian Federation, sports - ZERO ..
    Also look at Kola and the demographics there over the past 10 years, and then who finances the infrastructure there and all sorts of social projects? At such a pace it will go to the Norgs during our lifetime!


    In terms of casualties. Do you consider economic emigration? And the losses on the reconciliation of Chechnya, the losses in terrorist attacks and man-made disasters and the summer fires, the losses from surrogate alcohol, the losses from AIDS, drug addiction, sects and “death groups” - (all imported) from the fall in the level and inaccessibility of medical care, from poor nutrition. a drop in the birth rate due to propaganda (living for pleasure (hedonism), and what is paradoxical, is mortality due to poor nutrition?
    Everything has long been counted. About 50 million people from the 91st to today. Yes, even compare the Russian depopulation with the depopulation of not the most super-prosperous and wildly inflationary Belarus, which from the age of 91 lost only one million out of 10,5.
    Where are you going to be from, Cossack. under the red flag !?
  42. Dart
    Dart 25 October 2017 16: 56 New
    0
    God, what they are ... how many years have been trying to comprehend us .... but alas ..... idiotic conclusions, extremely incorrect bases fail ... they don’t understand us, apparently never))
  43. Foxmara
    Foxmara 25 October 2017 18: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: dep071
    It’s even interesting, what kind of human losses were in the 90s compared with repressions? Or for example, territorial losses? Republics in which now, as then, family dynasties rule? Maybe Ukraine, not small funds were invested in it?

    And you just compare the numbers by demography and are horrified. Under the mustache, it grew, (which means that despite the repression, the state developed and had a future prospect) under liberals, it fell steadily to the bottom. And by 2010, for a second, there were already plans for the division of that Russia, which was left without the Republics. They have not disappeared now. We do not have in Siberia, no, let’s give a lecture on separating it, Siberia from Russia, and they haven’t killed anyone and haven’t planted anyone yet. The last, where I heard was Irkutsk, now it seems that the emphasis is on Yerykaryburg. It is as if in the center (although a controversial issue, but the breakdown in communications will itself be critical). How did the separation of Ukraine affect the situation? Yes, it's easier than ever to show - endless gas disputes, air defense and specialists deliveries to Georgia for the war against the Russian Federation, the cultivation of Nazi ideology, and generally the way to Europe, but for some reason at the expense of Russia and against Russia.
    1. your1970
      your1970 26 October 2017 09: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Foxmara
      And you just compare the numbers by demography and are horrified. Under the mustache, it grew, (which means that despite the repression, the state developed and had a future prospect) under liberals, it fell steadily to the bottom.
      -you forget a little nuance ...
      kerosene was expensive, there was no TVs / Internet, it gets dark in winter at 4 - what did people do? Correct - make children !!! and it’s nice and useful (family helpers will not interfere) .... And now? Career, car, apartment / mortgage, relax in Turkey / Maldives ...... - when to think about children here? Do they need such families? Do you know many families where are 3 children? and under Stalin 3-5 children were an average family ...
  44. privateer2000
    privateer2000 25 October 2017 19: 36 New
    +1
    at least Stalin clearly understood that Rodin was not a ugliness but a real Rodin that must be loved, protected, cherished and respected. and keep the money on the booklet and not in a Swiss bank. and even under Stalin they knew that the desident is a traitor and no nails, comrades .KS2000
  45. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 25 October 2017 19: 43 New
    +1
    The king is on guard of a market capitalist fascist economy.
    And where should he go? Any change in the economic system is fraught with large losses in the economy and in politics. Will Russia be able to lift all this now? Do not forget that during the EBN, foreign "investors", shareholders and other trash climbed into many areas of the economy vital for Russia. In the case of the nationalization of such enterprises, such a howl and screech will rise to the whole planet, that the sanctions that have now been imposed on Russia will seem like a childish prank. And, I dare to assure you that the economy of our country can’t stand this, Russia can collapse. In addition, people are a little messy now, and nobody will want to sit on bread and water to save the country's economy, and will again Russian rebellion, meaningless and merciless. Well, who will use its results is clear from the example of Ukraine. So, to translate everything into social economic policy, as was the case in the USSR, it takes time. And, it seems to me, GDP leads to this.
  46. wot
    wot 25 October 2017 19: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: stas
    Is it worth it to go to the polls of Putin at all, if everything has already been decided without us.

    It’s worth not to steal the voice, at least for this
  47. Mononef
    Mononef 25 October 2017 20: 47 New
    0
    It is impossible to read this nonsense. And a third did not master. Such nonsense is being torn. Only ... they can take it like that seriously.
  48. Essex62
    Essex62 25 October 2017 23: 11 New
    +1
    Stalin and his team, first of all, had to gnaw out the private property psychology of the people. The most difficult task, even considering that the most reactionary part of society, the bearer of this ideology, was almost completely rooted in the GV and after it. <Previously think about the Motherland and then about himself> it’s not easy to instill. A person from birth is an egoist and force him to consciously sacrifice himself, not in an instant flash like Japanese kamikaze, but every day it’s almost not realistic. But he DID IT! Here is his greatest achievement. Without this, in that terrible war, we would not have won. <Cadres decide everything> - and you can’t argue with that. In this phrase, respect for the person of work, understood, one comrade Stalin has nothing without cadres.
    But the emergence in our conditions of a new Stalin is not possible, and he will not live long if he suddenly appears. Hard times await our homeland.
  49. noodles
    noodles 25 October 2017 23: 34 New
    +2
    I read the article and comments, it became hard and disgusting at heart! Well, how much will we crush in a mortar what has long passed and everyone knows! How can you compare the leaders of that period with the rulers of this, complete illiteracy and nonsense! The article is so tricky that both yours and ours and the West cannot offend and appear original!
    "pockmarked" - so my aunt called him - the best collector of the gas processing plant
    fact, but the fact that now we live no better is also a fact! Yes certain
    some live very well, but the fact that in the country is a mess and a noose for ordinary people is visible to everyone! A continuous chatter everywhere - decent work
    without blat you will not find, cheating everywhere from the store to the cemetery and everything is fine marquise! So people are tired of looking at this liberalism and a gangster market economy! The president says one thing
    in life is completely different, that's why Stalin is remembered!
  50. petyaivolk
    petyaivolk 26 October 2017 07: 20 New
    +1
    Again this Dude - "wrong historical conclusions that have nothing to do with the truth." What did this verbiage want to say?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 26 October 2017 07: 27 New
      +9
      Quote: petyaivolk
      What did this verbiage want to say?

      Well, what did you attack the staffer, ahem ... the observer, from the word "review" which?
      Chel simply retold in his own words an article from the Western press ... this, in practice, is all that he can.
      And you immediately begin rugamst ... why, one asks? recourse