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Israel hit an ally in the back

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Israel hit an ally in the back



Times change and we change with them. Israel has persistently tried to remain the same for years and today realizes that it is late for the outgoing train to reshape the political maps of the Middle East: "Grab the bags, the station leaves!"

For many decades, nothing has changed. Jerusalem (Jerusalem - the official capital of the state of Israel, there are all government agencies) relied on an armed and very dangerous Washington. The main enemies were Syria and Iran. Traditional claims, shootouts, recriminations. The Arabs diligently tried to destroy the "small but proud state." Armed to the molars and evil, the evil Jews fiercely fought back against the enemy, a hundred times larger in number, periodically performing exemplary whipping of their neighbors. They responded with missiles that rarely found a target, but they worked perfectly to maintain military-political hysteria in Israel itself.

When, in 2011, the "Syrian people in revolt", with the support of the igilovsk terrorists created and supported by the Americans * populated Syria, Israel thoughtlessly supported the "rebels". Israeli jihadis were delivered weaponinjured were treated in Israeli hospitals, Israeli artillery and aviation periodically supported terrorists in their fire attacks on Syrian troops. The formula "Enemy of my enemy my friend" seems to work.

Until Russia came to the Middle East.

In two years, the losing player, Bashar Asad, was on horseback, and the igilovts were fleeing Syria en masse, having lost even American support. The coalition that has arisen around Russia does not simply win, it has united former irreconcilable enemies, such as Iran and Turkey. And only self-confident Israel continued mindlessly to follow the same course.

No, political consultations were held. The head of Israel even flew to Russia to talk with Vladimir Putin. Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman met with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and flew to Washington to meet with Pentagon chief James Mattis. It did not lead to visible changes. Jerusalem continued to periodically bombard the Syrian troops and (obviously for the sake of the United States) to demand that everyone “leave the Kurds alone”.

However, literally in the last 2-3 of the day several landmark events occurred. The support of the United States and Israel to the Kurds was clearly little. They not only left Kirkuk and a third of the Iraqi oil fields they controlled, but also postponed the elections scheduled for November 1, at least until next spring. Obviously, Israeli-American support was not enough.

In Israel itself, for the first time in several years, Bashar Asad was not accused of shelling the territory of Israel. Although last week the Israelis fired at the Syrian troops, guided by their own words: "Whoever fired at us, Assad is responsible for the territory of Syria."

However, in this particular case, responsibility for the shelling was laid on the Lebanese Hezbollah, and not on the Syrian government. And yesterday, the unthinkable took place at all - the Israeli Air Force launched an airstrike on the positions of the terrorists. Although those years quietly controlled the territory near the Golan Heights. In fact, like Christ in his bosom. In a literal (almost) sense.

This information was confirmed in the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), which is headquartered in London.

As reported by this not very respected, but very pro-American, Israeli planes bombed terrorists from Jaish Khalid ibn al-Walid, who settled west of Darayya (near the town of Yarmuk).

According to the Observatory, at least a dozen militants were killed, including two women. It is assumed that at least four commanders gathered at the meeting were destroyed. Given the proximity of these jihadists to Israel, he could easily have such information.

And these are only the first signs of the coming changes. However, Israel still will not be able to enter the coalition created by Russia. Too strong pro-American lobby created in the country since the Soviet Union ceased to help him created Israel and switched to the Arabs.

The pragmatic position of Russia in the last decade and a half and the two millionth (essentially Russian) part of Israel guarantee Russia success on this most important part of the Middle Eastern front. But it will take a lot of time to do this - for too long, Moscow has refused to give Jerusalem friendship and cooperation.

And just the reformatting of Syria under the dominant position of Russia in this process provides an excellent opportunity to inflict a severe blow to the United States over the long term, turning Israel over the years if not as a strategic partner, then at least as a neutral ally.

And there, not far from the “dream come true” - our naval base fleet in almost Russian Haifa.

* - the organizations mentioned in the material are banned by the UN, Russia and all civilized states.
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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 25 October 2017 06: 46
    21
    You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 25 October 2017 06: 59
      39
      Aron, did you still listen to Caruso singing? Or did Rabinovich sing to you? laughing hi
      1. thinker
        thinker 25 October 2017 07: 33
        +4
        It seems really "fantasy." Israeli news site deleted, empty window.
        http://nautilus.co.il/news/65906/aktivisty_izrail
        _nanes_udar_po_pozitsii_terroristov_isis
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 25 October 2017 08: 40
          +9
          Israeli news site deleted, empty window.

          Well, if the Israeli site was deleted, then of course ... Or maybe they just don’t want to tell the truth? Or is it not in vain that Shoigu traveled to Israel and met with Lieberman?
          1. Vanych
            Vanych 27 October 2017 22: 43
            +1
            yeah, Shoigu Lieberman slammed his head, but he was offended and kicked the Allies in the ass
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 25 October 2017 12: 28
          +8
          Quote: thinker
          It seems really "fantasy." Israeli news site deleted, empty window.
          http://nautilus.co.il/news/65906/aktivisty_izrail
          _nanes_udar_po_pozitsii_terroristov_isis

          Do you have such "close" contacts with Israel? ... or are they at VO?
          (from Arona Zawi or professors - this can be expected ... but from thinker... ???)
          ---------------------------------
          not so long ago - yesterday! - removed my comments and links to tzargrad.tv articles on the joint actions of the US and Israel to attract Kurds to incite a new - permanent - war in the region; Kurds seize oil fields in Syria, securing financing for the future war "for Kurdistan", i.e. technically, they are following the path of IG * ...- forbidden and te te! Now will the Peshmerga have to be banned?
          ... And what about Israel? Well, he was out of business - he stood aside and backwards, did not see anything ...
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 25 October 2017 20: 07
            +6
            Israel receives about 3 billion dollars. annual, military assistance from the United States (F-35, for example). That says it all.
            And why is there a base if Tartus is near? Kurdistan in such an environment is unlikely to take place now and is capable of something, before, in the chaos, it was necessary. hi
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 29 October 2017 20: 59
              +2
              good Kasim clearly said everything! I support!
              1. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 12
                +1
                Salam! Kal Kalai?
                All that Talgat said, I support Kasyma.
                Bazaar is a jock!
    2. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 25 October 2017 08: 13
      +2
      Apparently you know more there))))
    3. 7gor
      7gor 25 October 2017 12: 28
      +4
      Aron you are not a stupid person! All this fuss will not lead to anything good! You yourself understand!
      1. 7gor
        7gor 25 October 2017 12: 29
        +1
        Aron answered!
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 25 October 2017 17: 51
          +2
          Or is it not in vain that Shoigu traveled to Israel and met with Lieberman?
          that evening the Syrians raked ...
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 28 October 2017 03: 51
            +1
            What and what is being raked? Even the Israeli and Western media are confused in their information. Grandfather, you probably really wanted to "raked"?
      2. Lord
        Lord 25 October 2017 21: 42
        +1
        Quote: 7gor
        All this fuss will not lead to anything good! You yourself understand!

        That which does not exist cannot influence or lead to anything. The logical axiom.
    4. The comment was deleted.
    5. Lord
      Lord 25 October 2017 21: 35
      +3
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy”

      But do not react to it. The marginal minority that circulates such libel does not reflect either the official policy of the Kremlin or the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation. Such articles are the lot of the yellow press, which throws itself on the fan, in pursuit of rating among low-intellectual members of society.
      Facts indicate a state of things that is diametrically opposite to their slander, but facts do not interest them. Fortunately, the instinct for self-preservation of society today does not allow such inadequacies to more or less influential positions.
      So by and large, their slander and incitement to hatred based on prejudice does not affect anything. Launching their painful imagination to their health, everyone chooses what poison to poison.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 33
        +3
        Quote: Lord
        The marginal minority that circulates such libel does not reflect either the official policy of the Kremlin or the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation.

        Well then you know better from Britain?
        1. Lord
          Lord 26 October 2017 21: 52
          0
          Quote: Setrac
          Well then you know better from Britain?

          Router in Britain. And I'm in a hawk. laughing
      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 15
        +1
        Quote: Lord
        So by and large, their slander and incitement to hatred based on prejudice does not affect anything. Launching their painful imagination to their health, everyone chooses what poison to poison.

        The fact that these are fantasies - I agree. But I don’t understand what hatred they incite ...
    6. fider
      fider 30 October 2017 19: 33
      0
      Aron Zawi: "... So that the author would not be offended ..."
      Yes, let offended - a nonsense.
    7. Maz
      Maz 31 October 2017 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.

      Well, what can you do, the authority has already been earned. Israel’s job is to hit in the back and kill the wounded.
  2. Ren
    Ren 25 October 2017 06: 56
    +8
    Oh you are Haifa, oh you are Haifa, the city of g'usky sailors! wassat (sing on the motive "Legendary Sevastopol")
  3. MadCat
    MadCat 25 October 2017 07: 11
    +6
    And just the reformatting of Syria under the dominant position of Russia in this process provides an excellent opportunity to inflict a severe blow to the United States over the long term, turning Israel over the years if not as a strategic partner, then at least as a neutral ally.

    Too often, the USSR and then Russia did everything for the enemies of Israel to destroy it, so it's too early to even stutter about it (about the alliance).
    And Israel respects neutrality and so ... unless of course you try to shell Israeli territory from artillery.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 25 October 2017 12: 43
      +9
      And Israel respects neutrality and so ... unless of course you try to shell Israeli territory from artillery.

      Nobody has bombarded it yet! And to begin - or, in Gorbachev's way, to begin ... - there is shelling for a day or two - and all of Israel will turn into the Negev desert ...
      ... into which the USA turned Racca!
      https://tsargrad.tv/articles/ssha-vbombili-rakku-
      dazhe-ne-v-kamennyj-vek-a-prosto-v-betonnuju-pyl_
      91944

      https://tsargrad.tv/articles/ssha-posejali-v-siri
      i-novuju-vojnu_91909
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 25 October 2017 14: 37
      10
      Too often, the USSR and then Russia did everything for the enemies of Israel to destroy it, so it's too early to even stutter about it (about the alliance).
      The USSR and Comrade Stalin stood behind the creation of the state of Israel, and thousands of war-hardened soldiers, with the blessing of the "blood executioner" Joseph Stalin, defended the independence of Israel. Learn the story dear, and then you will not look like a funny clown
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      2. Lord
        Lord 25 October 2017 22: 03
        +5
        Quote: 72jora72
        The USSR and Comrade Stalin stood behind the creation of the state of Israel, and thousands of war-hardened soldiers, with the blessing of the "blood executioner" Joseph Stalin, defended the independence of Israel.

        Do not duplicate the lie, it is easily refuted.
        There was no "blessing", on the contrary, Stalin banned repatriation to Jews - citizens of the USSR.
        The backbone of the IDF strike forces was the veterans of the regular troops and the "volunteer brigades" who fought in the ranks of the Western allies and veterans of the European partisan movements.
        Already in August 1940, 15 companies were formed from Jewish volunteers of the mandated Palestine, which were sent as part of the British army to Libya and Egypt. The Jewish battalion under the command of Major Moshe Libman fought in the summer of 1942 near El Alamein. The Jewish brigade took part in the battles in Italy as part of the 8th British Army in February-May 1945. The total number of these formations was 30-40 thousand fighters. They are those "thousands of war-hardened fighters" who defended the independence of Israel when they returned home.
        And this, unlike the Arabs, who sympathized with Hitler (and many still do) and sheltered many Nazi criminals after the war, with the complete connivance of the USSR and Stalin personally.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 25 October 2017 23: 27
          +2
          Quote: Lord
          Quote: 72jora72
          The USSR and Comrade Stalin stood behind the creation of the state of Israel, and thousands of war-hardened soldiers, with the blessing of the "blood executioner" Joseph Stalin, defended the independence of Israel.

          Do not duplicate the lie, it is easily refuted.
          There was no "blessing", on the contrary, Stalin banned repatriation to Jews - citizens of the USSR.
          The backbone of the IDF strike forces was the veterans of the regular troops and the "volunteer brigades" who fought in the ranks of the Western allies and veterans of the European partisan movements.
          Already in August 1940, 15 companies were formed from Jewish volunteers of the mandated Palestine, which were sent as part of the British army to Libya and Egypt. The Jewish battalion under the command of Major Moshe Libman fought in the summer of 1942 near El Alamein. The Jewish brigade took part in the battles in Italy as part of the 8th British Army in February-May 1945. The total number of these formations was 30-40 thousand fighters. They are those "thousands of war-hardened fighters" who defended the independence of Israel when they returned home.
          And this, unlike the Arabs, who sympathized with Hitler (and many still do) and sheltered many Nazi criminals after the war, with the complete connivance of the USSR and Stalin personally.

          There were many more Jews from the Polish army. And with the army of Craiova
        2. mig.vlad2015
          mig.vlad2015 26 October 2017 09: 06
          +3
          Quote: Lord
          There was no “blessing”; on the contrary, Stalin banned the repatriation of Jews - citizens of the USSR.

          You really want to look like a fool, or is it inborn.
          1. Lord
            Lord 26 October 2017 21: 54
            0
            Quote: mig.vlad2015
            You really want to look like a fool

            No, that's why I post the facts, and you probably want to, since you decided to get into the bottle and dispute these facts. fool
            Well, welcome, or as they say ...
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 37
              +1
              Quote: Lord
              No, that's why I post the facts

              Well, bring the facts when Gromyko spoke at the UN and when (and in connection with this) Stalin banned the repatriation of Jews
        3. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 35
          +2
          Quote: Lord
          They are those "thousands of war-hardened fighters" who defended the independence of Israel when they returned home.

          How can one protect the independence of what did not exist? wassat
          Quote: Lord
          with the full connivance of the USSR and Stalin personally.

          "Connivance"))) funny, by golly ... What do you know about such an organization as GelenOrg? In particular, about SS Obersturm Fuhrer Franz Goring and Hans Sommer, SS Sturmführer Herbert Stein-Born? And many others ... There is no connivance. Direct work ...
      3. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 18
        +2
        Quote: 72jora72
        The USSR and Comrade Stalin stood behind the creation of the state of Israel, and thousands of war-hardened warriors, with the blessing of the "blood executioner" Joseph Stalin, defended the independence of Israel. Learn the story dear, and then you will not look like a funny clown

        So then all of Israel began with a speech by Gromyko to the UN. With the complete opposition of the rest of the World ...
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 25 October 2017 07: 47
    13
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.

    Well, you’re sticking out on Russian sites, so you’re interested in such news. Of course, the author’s bold opinion. But what the hell isn’t joking? When should you start moving away from the main sponsor?
  5. Eurodav
    Eurodav 25 October 2017 07: 49
    +7
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.

    How to react? Probably the same as the former Dutch NATO man who realized that NATO is doing evil and lawlessness all over the world and is now fighting in LNR ... You can be a Jew, but not be a Zionist, you can be a Jew and understand that Israel is not white and fluffy, on the contrary, everyone cannot be mistaken, but one is always right? Or are you not destined to understand? The Germans, whom you so brazenly and effortlessly milked, did you realize that fascism is evil? What prevents you from understanding that Zionism is the same fascism, only worse?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 October 2017 00: 39
      +1
      Quote: Evrodav
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.

      How to react? Probably the same as the former Dutch NATO man who realized that NATO is doing evil and lawlessness all over the world and is now fighting in LNR ... You can be a Jew, but not be a Zionist, you can be a Jew and understand that Israel is not white and fluffy, on the contrary, everyone cannot be mistaken, but one is always right? Or are you not destined to understand? The Germans, whom you so brazenly and effortlessly milked, did you realize that fascism is evil? What prevents you from understanding that Zionism is the same fascism, only worse?

      The Germans also milked us well - only in Berlin, Jewish property was looted to the modern annual budget of a good European city (I’ll say the same numbers, without PPP in time)
      And in all of Europe?
  6. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 25 October 2017 07: 59
    +9
    "Israeli planes bombed terrorists" - this is just a "friendly fire", sometimes the Americans also regularly bombed the allies.

    “However, Israel will still not be able to enter the coalition created by Russia” - but it is not clear why, Israel is suicidally trying to enter the list of enemies and targets of both this coalition and Russia itself.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 10: 22
      +6
      Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
      "Israeli planes bombed terrorists" - this is just a "friendly fire", sometimes the Americans also regularly bombed the allies.

      “However, Israel will still not be able to enter the coalition created by Russia” - but it is not clear why, Israel is suicidally trying to enter the list of enemies and targets of both this coalition and Russia itself.

      Israel is not the first to hit ISIS in the Golan, it will never cease to be the target of Syria, Hezbollah and Iran, and Russia, by and large, has nothing to share with Israel. In addition, this is the only Western state that did not impose sanctions against the Russian Federation and did not condemn the annexation of Crimea. You, Felix, have a misconception about Israel. This is a country with a nuclear triad (from non-Israeli sources) and very good. developed economy. 18th place in the HDI in the world. Compare with Ukraine is stupid. :)
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 25 October 2017 12: 19
        +9
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Russia, by and large, has nothing to share with Israel.

        Well, besides the fact that Russia helps to destroy Syrian terrorists and Israel supports these Syrian terrorists, and of course there is nothing to share lol
        Quote: Krasnodar
        In addition, this is the only Western state that did not impose sanctions against the Russian Federation

        Another Israeli lie or simply propaganda designed to accustom our Russian Internet users to the fact that Israel is “white and fluffy”, although in reality this country does a lot of nasty things but makes them quietly out of the blue.
        Israel demanded that banks take into account sanctions against Russia
        The Bank of Israel demanded that the country's credit organizations develop a specific policy and rules for working with Russian banks and companies included in the Western sanctions list,
        According to a letter from the Israeli Central Bank, banks are allowed to deny Russian customers who are subject to sanctions to conduct new transactions, as well as terminate existing agreements with them
        https://ria.ru/world/20150511/1063870787.html

        Quote: Krasnodar
        and did not condemn the annexation of Crimea

        Again a lie - Israel fully supports the government of Porosheko (Valtsman) in Ukraine

        On November 15, Israel voted at the UN General Assembly Committee on Social, Humanitarian and Cultural Issues (Third Committee) to recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia.
        According to the results of the vote, 73 countries supported the draft anti-Russian resolution, 23 countries voted against, 76 countries abstained
        Among the countries of the former USSR, the votes were distributed as follows: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Georgia - in favor; Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan - against; Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan - abstained; Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan did not vote.
        Same:
        On the issue of recognition of the annexation of Crimea by Russia as illegal, Saudi Arabia and Turkey voted in favor, Egypt abstained, Iran and Syria voted against
        Moscow called the "unpleasant surprise" support for this resolution from Israel.
        http://newsru.co.il/israel/22nov2016/cr_israel_10
        7.html
        Quote: article
        And there it is not far to the "sbychichi dream" - the naval base of our fleet in practically Russian Haifa.

        Honestly, the phrase made fun of how the Jewish emigrants from the USSR / Russia suddenly became - Russian?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 25 October 2017 12: 55
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Russia, by and large, has nothing to share with Israel.

          Well, besides the fact that Russia helps to destroy Syrian terrorists and Israel supports these Syrian terrorists, and of course there is nothing to share lol
          Quote: Krasnodar
          In addition, this is the only Western state that did not impose sanctions against the Russian Federation

          Another Israeli lie or simply propaganda designed to accustom our Russian Internet users to the fact that Israel is “white and fluffy”, although in reality this country does a lot of nasty things but makes them quietly out of the blue.
          Israel demanded that banks take into account sanctions against Russia
          The Bank of Israel demanded that the country's credit organizations develop a specific policy and rules for working with Russian banks and companies included in the Western sanctions list,
          According to a letter from the Israeli Central Bank, banks are allowed to deny Russian customers who are subject to sanctions to conduct new transactions, as well as terminate existing agreements with them
          https://ria.ru/world/20150511/1063870787.html

          Quote: Krasnodar
          and did not condemn the annexation of Crimea

          Again a lie - Israel fully supports the government of Porosheko (Valtsman) in Ukraine

          On November 15, Israel voted at the UN General Assembly Committee on Social, Humanitarian and Cultural Issues (Third Committee) to recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia.
          According to the results of the vote, 73 countries supported the draft anti-Russian resolution, 23 countries voted against, 76 countries abstained
          Among the countries of the former USSR, the votes were distributed as follows: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Georgia - in favor; Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan - against; Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan - abstained; Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan did not vote.
          Same:
          On the issue of recognition of the annexation of Crimea by Russia as illegal, Saudi Arabia and Turkey voted in favor, Egypt abstained, Iran and Syria voted against
          Moscow called the "unpleasant surprise" support for this resolution from Israel.
          http://newsru.co.il/israel/22nov2016/cr_israel_10
          7.html
          Quote: article
          And there it is not far to the "sbychichi dream" - the naval base of our fleet in practically Russian Haifa.

          Honestly, the phrase made fun of how the Jewish emigrants from the USSR / Russia suddenly became - Russian?

          No, Israel is clearly bombing Hezbollah terrorists.
          Israeli sanctions against Russia are not listed by you.
          Poroshenko named Waltzman another friend of Russia - Tyagnibok. (Poroshenko’s father is a drunken drunk by the look of what Valtsman is)
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 25 October 2017 13: 04
            10
            Quote: Krasnodar
            No, Israel clearly bomb Hezbollah terrorists

            Hezbollah is a national-patriotic movement and in Russia it is not a terrorist organization, so all its actions, including against Israel, are recognized as absolutely legitimate by our country. As the saying goes "cut it on your nose" and never forget.
            And stop carrying Israeli propaganda.
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Israeli sanctions against Russia are not listed by you.

            Above, I gave an article and a link to it, and if you are not able to understand what you read, then these are your difficulties and I can not help you in this matter.
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Poroshenko named Waltzman another friend of Russia - Tyagnibok.

            Enough of this Israeli propaganda, Poroshenko is Valtsman, but the fact that he is a Jew is confirmed by the chief rabbi of Ukraine.
            So the current regime of Ukraine Poroshenko (Valtsman) and the regime of Israel Netanyahu blood brotherhood - Jewish blood.
            Chief Rabbi of Kiev and Ukraine Yakov Dov Bleich: Poroshenko is a Jew
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 25 October 2017 13: 26
              0
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: Krasnodar
              No, Israel clearly bomb Hezbollah terrorists

              Hezbollah is a national-patriotic movement and in Russia it is not a terrorist organization, so all its actions, including against Israel, are recognized as absolutely legitimate by our country. As the saying goes "cut it on your nose" and never forget.
              And stop carrying Israeli propaganda.

              Quote: Krasnodar
              Israeli sanctions against Russia are not listed by you.

              Above, I gave an article and a link to it, and if you are not able to understand what you read, then these are your difficulties and I can not help you in this matter.
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Poroshenko named Waltzman another friend of Russia - Tyagnibok.

              Enough of this Israeli propaganda, Poroshenko is Valtsman, but the fact that he is a Jew is confirmed by the chief rabbi of Ukraine.
              So the current regime of Ukraine Poroshenko (Valtsman) and the regime of Israel Netanyahu blood brotherhood - Jewish blood.
              Chief Rabbi of Kiev and Ukraine Yakov Dov Bleich: Poroshenko is a Jew

              1) So Russia does not bomb Hezbollah, because it does not recognize it as terrorists. And she does not recognize her as terrorists, because the name of her leader sounds cool in Russian - Nasral. And he walks in a dress and sits in a bunker.
              2) So Israel imposed sanctions against the Russian Federation or not? )))) Voting at the UN Humanitarian Committee for an anti-Russian resolution, as well as the vote of the Russian Federation against the link between Jewry and the Temple Mount in Unesco, is lyrics. The permission of the Central Bank of Israel not to work with Rotenberg companies and others are advisory in nature, they are necessary in order not to fall under sanctions themselves due to work with the Russian Federation.
              This is what I understood from the above.
              3) The rabbi said that Poroshenko is also a Jew. Tyagnibok said that Poroshenko is a Jew. Wikipedia says Poroshenko is not a Jew. So who to believe - Tyagniboku with a rabbi or Wikipedia? )))
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 25 October 2017 13: 41
                +4
                Quote: Krasnodar
                So Russia does not bomb Hezbollah because it does not recognize it as terrorists

                Russian soldiers and Hezbollah fighters are fighting in the same ranks with Syrian terrorists while Israel is helping Syrian terrorists.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                And she does not recognize her as terrorists, because the name of her leader sounds cool in Russian - Nasral. And he walks in a dress and sits in a bunker.

                The usual rather mediocre Israeli propaganda.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                So Israel introduced sanctions against the Russian Federation or not? ))))

                if you do not understand again, try again reading the article to which I gave a link.
                Although, as I already understood, what is written there is unlikely to "reach" lol
                Quote: Krasnodar
                as well as the vote of the Russian Federation against the connection of Jewry with the Temple Mount in Unesco - this is lyrics.

                So you Jews and so do not have any connection with Jerusalem, and indeed with the territory that your regime now occupies, therefore Israel was formed on the lands of the Arabs ARTificially by UN decision.
                UNESCO: Israel - "occupying Power"
                In particular, it states that “all legislative and administrative measures taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which change the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem” are recognized as “invalid and must be immediately repealed”.

                “This is a clear reminder to Israel of its legal status in East Jerusalem, this status is an occupying power, so it does not have the right to carry out work and other changes in the city”
                http://ru.euronews.com/2017/05/05/unesco-israel-i
                s-occupying-power-of-jerusalem


                Crimea always belonged to Russia
                Quote: Krasnodar
                So who to believe - Tyagniboku with a rabbi or Wikipedia? )))

                Well, you are a Jew, Krasnodar, so you will have to split in your faith between the opinion of the rabbi and the opinion of Wikipedia lol
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 25 October 2017 13: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  So Russia does not bomb Hezbollah because it does not recognize it as terrorists

                  Russian soldiers and Hezbollah fighters are fighting in the same ranks with Syrian terrorists while Israel is helping Syrian terrorists.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  And she does not recognize her as terrorists, because the name of her leader sounds cool in Russian - Nasral. And he walks in a dress and sits in a bunker.

                  The usual rather mediocre Israeli propaganda.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  So Israel introduced sanctions against the Russian Federation or not? ))))

                  if you do not understand again, try again reading the article to which I gave a link.
                  Although, as I already understood, what is written there is unlikely to "reach" lol
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  as well as the vote of the Russian Federation against the connection of Jewry with the Temple Mount in Unesco - this is lyrics.

                  So you Jews and so do not have any connection with Jerusalem, and indeed with the territory that your regime now occupies, therefore Israel was formed on the lands of the Arabs ARTificially by UN decision.
                  UNESCO: Israel - "occupying Power"
                  In particular, it states that “all legislative and administrative measures taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which change the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem” are recognized as “invalid and must be immediately repealed”.

                  “This is a clear reminder to Israel of its legal status in East Jerusalem, this status is an occupying power, so it does not have the right to carry out work and other changes in the city”
                  http://ru.euronews.com/2017/05/05/unesco-israel-i
                  s-occupying-power-of-jerusalem


                  Crimea always belonged to Russia
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  So who to believe - Tyagniboku with a rabbi or Wikipedia? )))

                  Well, you are a Jew, Krasnodar, so you will have to split in your faith between the opinion of the rabbi and the opinion of Wikipedia lol

                  1) It’s cool for Russian soldiers - what’s the name of your general in a dress? Shit? Bugaga))))
                  2) What kind of terrorists does Israel help? We bomb Hezbollah, for example. Because they zig and the leader in their dress. This is not patsansky ...
                  3) I read it. Where Israeli sanctions against Russia did not understand. As well as support for Western sanctions by Israel - voting and recommendations are lyrics.
                  4) But Jesus from which Temple expelled merchants? Is it not Jerusalem? )))
                  And King David, Solomon, etc. Didn’t they live on this earth?
                  Arabs occupied this land in the 7th century AD. And they turned it into such a crap that against the background of modern Palestine, even Iran looks like a modern, developed state. A Jewish presence has always been.
                  I already wrote about voting in UNESCO - this is lyrics
                  I do not like rabbis - they look like the bearded Nasral.
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 25 October 2017 16: 28
                    +5
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    It’s fun for Russian soldiers - what’s the name of your general in a dress? Shit? Bugaga))))

                    Yes, you feel still very young and climbed to the site smile Would you rather go to the yard with your peers to play.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    What Israel helps terrorists with? We bomb Hezbollah, for example.

                    So here I am about the same thing you bomb Hezbollah fighters and the Syrian army at the request of Syrian terrorists and then claim that they are not connected with the terrorists
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    and the leader in their dress.

                    How old are you?
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    This is not patsansky ...

                    How funny are you once again how old are you?
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Where Israeli sanctions against Russia did not understand.

                    So the fact that you didn’t understand again is not surprising, so try again to re-read it. In my post, I specially allocated this place.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    As well as support for Western sanctions by Israel - voting and recommendations are lyrics.

                    If it were "lyrics" then Israel would not be so hysterical.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    But Jesus from which Temple expelled merchants? Is it not Jerusalem? )))
                    And King David, Solomon, etc. Didn’t they live on this earth?

                    And where it is written about it, I would like to know if there is any confirmation of this.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    A Jewish presence has always been.

                    A couple of hundred thousand Jews throughout the Middle East is a presence
                    Funny.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    I do not like rabbis - they look like the bearded Nasral.

                    Tell me honestly, are you afraid of them like most Americans are afraid of "evil clowns"?
                    But you will grow up nothing and stop being afraid of it. You just have children's complexes lol
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 17: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      It’s fun for Russian soldiers - what’s the name of your general in a dress? Shit? Bugaga))))

                      Yes, you feel still very young and climbed to the site smile Would you rather go to the yard with your peers to play.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      What Israel helps terrorists with? We bomb Hezbollah, for example.

                      So here I am about the same thing you bomb Hezbollah fighters and the Syrian army at the request of Syrian terrorists and then claim that they are not connected with the terrorists
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      and the leader in their dress.

                      How old are you?
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      This is not patsansky ...

                      How funny are you once again how old are you?
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Where Israeli sanctions against Russia did not understand.

                      So the fact that you didn’t understand again is not surprising, so try again to re-read it. In my post, I specially allocated this place.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      As well as support for Western sanctions by Israel - voting and recommendations are lyrics.

                      If it were "lyrics" then Israel would not be so hysterical.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      But Jesus from which Temple expelled merchants? Is it not Jerusalem? )))
                      And King David, Solomon, etc. Didn’t they live on this earth?

                      And where it is written about it, I would like to know if there is any confirmation of this.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      A Jewish presence has always been.

                      A couple of hundred thousand Jews throughout the Middle East is a presence
                      Funny.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      I do not like rabbis - they look like the bearded Nasral.

                      Tell me honestly, are you afraid of them like most Americans are afraid of "evil clowns"?
                      But you will grow up nothing and stop being afraid of it. You just have children's complexes lol

                      I’m 40, I’m afraid of Hezbollah Wah — bearded clowns, who are being held captive about the desire for peace, say about Israel - Israel is not worn out, but simply ceased to sponsor an organization that adopts anti-Israeli resolutions. And the States brought out of there.
                      Jews in the BV - refugees in Israel alone in the late 40s and early 50s were approximately 600 thousand. Read, learn, develop)))
                      By the way - so where are the Israeli sanctions against the Russian Federation? :)
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 25 October 2017 19: 39
                        +3
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I 40

                        And judging by the fact that write no more than 20 lol
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        By the way - so where are the Israeli sanctions against the Russian Federation? :)

                        According to a letter from the Israeli Central Bank, banks are allowed to deny Russian customers who are subject to sanctions to conduct new transactions, as well as terminate existing agreements with them
                        https://ria.ru/world/20150511/1063870787.html

                        This time I hope to understand
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Hezbollah Wah I'm Afraid - Bearded Clowns

                        By the way, you can immediately see that you are a frightened person smile
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 17: 13
                      +1
                      And about the Jewish right to Jerusalem, it’s so funny at all - there are works by archaeologists (not just Israeli ones), historians, including Roman and ancient Greek, there is an arch in Rome with a bas-relief of Imported defeated Jews to Menorah ... I’m generally silent about the Bible, as I understand it, it is not an authority for you.
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 25 October 2017 17: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        And about the Jewish right to Jerusalem, it’s so funny at all - there are works by archaeologists (not just Israeli ones), historians, including Roman and ancient Greek, there is an arch in Rome with a bas-relief of Imported vanquished Jews from Menorah ...

                        Well, yes, continue to believe in fairy tales.
                      2. Lord
                        Lord 25 October 2017 22: 25
                        +3
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Well, yes, continue to believe in fairy tales.

                        And the Egyptian pyramids, according to your logic, are also fairy tales? laughing

                        And these are the Golan Heights.
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I am silent in general, it is for you, as I understand it, not credibility.

                        The Bible is an authority only for Christians, it is not a historical document, you do not have a Bible older than the 15th century AD. Why on earth should we believe in a collection of Jewish tales?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        there is an arch in rome

                        So live in Rome and build your Israel there.
                2. Lord
                  Lord 25 October 2017 22: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Crimea always belonged to Russia

                  Yours is always a little less than 250 years old. Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire on April 19, 1783 by decree of Catherine II.
                  Go learn the story, you low-class propagandist, if you are fooled by elementary trifles.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: Lord
                    Yours is always a little less than 250 years old. Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire on April 19, 1783 by decree of Catherine II.

                    However, this is four times longer than the line of existence of the state of Israel.
                    1. Lord
                      Lord 26 October 2017 21: 59
                      0
                      Quote: Setrac
                      ... four times longer than the line of existence of the state of Israel.

                      Do not measure time, in the end the score will not be in your favor.
                      I recommend a smaller aplomb in which you are not a recognized specialist, less often you will look ridiculous in the eyes of educated people.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: Lord
                        Do not measure time, in the end the score will not be in your favor.

                        Like this? The State of Israel was created in 1948, how do you "age" it?
                      2. Lord
                        Lord 26 October 2017 22: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Setrac
                        The State of Israel was created in 1948, how do you "age" it?

                        During the reign of the son of Ramesses II, Pharaoh Meneptah (presumably around 1210 BC), a Thele was established in Thebes, describing his military campaigns, including the suppression of the uprising in (belonging to Egypt since Tutmosis III) Canaan: [city] Ashkelon, [city] Gazru was captured, [city] Jenoam was created non-existent, [people] Isriar (Israel) devastated, there is no grain of it. "
                        Jewish presence, and most importantly - preservation of self-organization and ways not interrupted On the land of Israel for more than 3000 years. Despite the efforts of the Romans, Crusaders, Arabs and Ottomans, no one was able to make this land “Judenfrey” for at least a year.
            2. Lord
              Lord 25 October 2017 22: 13
              +5
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Hezbollah is a popular patriotic movement ...

              Exactly the same "people's patriotic" as the "Emirate of the Caucasus". In style, in spirit, in methods and partly in religion, the twin brothers.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 38
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        This is a country with a nuclear triad.

        Okst, what nuclear triad? Israel has only tactical nuclear weapons, they have no ballistic missiles, they have no strategic submarine missile carriers, they have no strategic aviation, what kind of triad are you talking about?
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 26 October 2017 20: 47
          +3
          "Blessed is he who believes. He is warm in the world."
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 51
            +1
            Quote: Shahno
            "Blessed is he who believes. He is warm in the world."

            So tell us about the Israeli strategic bombers and submarine strategic missile carriers? Or maybe you have ballistic missiles that can fly anywhere in the world?
            No? For some reason I thought so.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 26 October 2017 21: 25
              +2
              Are you kidding me? I will be brief. Jericho 3 (he was captured by Naveen). F 15- KR Gabrielle. Submarine Dolphin-KR type Harpoon. I can’t say more.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 26 October 2017 21: 29
                +1
                Jericho 4 flies not far - only 4000 km and is not strategic, F-15 is far from a strategic bomber and Dolphin is by no means a strategist with a harpoon - which is not a ballistic missile at all.
                You have tactical nuclear weapons, no more.
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 26 October 2017 21: 41
                  +1
                  You know how you call a boat like that ....
                  That is, something that sometimes does not seem to be a good way to carry out strategic tasks within a radius of 4000 km. Enough for us.
                  Although you make us think about full-fledged strategists. And this is good.
                2. Lord
                  Lord 26 October 2017 22: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Jericho 4

                  Does not exist. The last in the series is 3.
            2. Lord
              Lord 26 October 2017 21: 40
              +2
              Quote: Setrac
              Or maybe you have ballistic missiles that can fly anywhere in the world?

              Satellite Departing Country into orbit own carriers, by default, it can drop 250-300 kg (weight of heavy pulp) anywhere in the world.

              Quote: Setrac
              No?

              That's the salt that is, the description in the comment below.
        2. Lord
          Lord 26 October 2017 21: 38
          0
          Quote: Setrac
          Okst, what nuclear triad? Israel has only tactical nuclear weapons, they have no ballistic missiles, they have no strategic submarine missile carriers, they have no strategic aviation, what kind of triad are you talking about?

          Both are not quite right. There is a triad, but rather a tactical one.
          From open sources:
          Ballistic missiles: Jericho-3 can throw an RGCh of 3 blocks at 7000-8000 km, and a single warhead more than 11.500 km is an ICBM. "Jericho-2" BMD at 4500 - 6000 km. warheads. This is definitely a strategic level.
          Submarines can launch up to 6 - 12 CR (each) "Pop Turbo" at a range of 1500+ km. Not quite a strategic level, but an order of magnitude higher than a tactical one. Especially considering the autonomy of the submarines at two months and a range of over 5000 nautical miles.
          Aviation can use Ankor series missiles, officially it is a target missile for missile defense training, but in reality it can throw one warhead at 1500 - 2000 km along a ballistic trajectory. Plus, the extensive nomenclature of the Kyrgyz Republic.
          According to Vaanunu, from the late 70s, Israel has been producing tritium in Dimon, and collecting thermonuclear warheads, including the megaton class, although the armament is mainly charged at 250 - 550kt.
          According to foreign intelligence estimates, Israel has 400+ warheads of plutonium, and produces 15 to 20 warheads per year, although the number of warheads on duty is estimated at 150 to 250.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 30
            +1
            Quote: Lord
            Both are not quite right. There is a triad, but rather a tactical one.

            Well, you can drag a ballistic missile over your ears, although it is not long-range enough, but the planes are not strategic at all, and the submarine is an ordinary diesel engine with harpoons, so there is no question of any triad.
            1. Lord
              Lord 26 October 2017 22: 54
              +2
              Quote: Setrac
              you can drag a ballistic missile over your ears, although it’s not long-range enough ...

              Throw 750kg (and this warhead up to 5 megatons) at 11000km is "not long-range"? Are you joking? belay
              Quote: Setrac
              ordinary dizeluha with harpoons

              That's just this "diesel engine" may not pop up all the duty, thanks to the anaerobic engine, like a nuclear submarine.
              And not with “harpoons” (he is rather weak for nuclear warheads), but with the KR “Pop Turbo”, a full-fledged analogue of “Tomogavka” or “Caliber”, 1500+ km (and there are rumors in the media that all is 3000km).
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 26 October 2017 23: 09
                +1
                Quote: Lord
                And not with “harpoons” (he is rather weak for nuclear warheads), but with the KR “Pop Turbo”, a full-fledged analogue of “Tomogavka” or “Caliber”, 1500+ km (and there are rumors in the media that all is 3000km).

                Nevertheless, the carriers of these missiles are not strategic and have nothing to do with the triad. So you are all Russian "Varshavyanka" ranked as strategic missile carriers.
                1. Lord
                  Lord 26 October 2017 23: 50
                  0
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Nevertheless, the carriers of these missiles are not strategic.

                  Now again carefully and thoughtfully re-read my comment, the one with a listing of the entire arsenal, and quote me - where exactly did I call them strategic?
                  What is the manner of answering without reading? You turn this dialogue into absurdity.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 27 October 2017 00: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: Lord
                    What is the manner of answering without reading? You turn this dialogue into absurdity.

                    This is probably because the conversation did not start with you, but since you are defending the previous opponent - do not refuse his words, what kind of absurdity?
                    1. Lord
                      Lord 27 October 2017 00: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: Setrac
                      you protect the previous opponent

                      What joy do I protect him with? Who decided that?
                      Quote: Setrac
                      Do not refuse his words, what absurdity?

                      Your statement of this question is absurdity. Especially after i initially (the first line of the same) said that:
                      Quote: Lord
                      Both not quite right.

                      As I understand it, I will not persuade you to read carefully before answering, and therefore it is worth stopping to aggravate the absurdity of this dialogue, by means of its completion.
                      Good night.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 27 October 2017 00: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Lord
                        therefore it is worth stopping to aggravate the absurdity of this dialogue

                        What are you ... boring
  7. andrewkor
    andrewkor 25 October 2017 08: 47
    +4
    Through the lips of the author, yes, honey would be drunk. About the American litter, with all due respect to their “God's chosen people,” from any situation in the BV they will try to make their own gesheft!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 10: 25
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      Through the lips of the author, yes, honey would be drunk. About the American litter, with all due respect to their “God's chosen people,” from any situation in the BV they will try to make their own gesheft!

      ))))
      This "litter" is represented in the States of the richest and one of the most influential groups in the country :)
      Who's whose whore is not clear.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 47
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        This "litter" is represented in the States of the richest and one of the most influential groups in the country :)

        You are wrong, the richness of the word God, but there is no God in the United States, the Devil rules you. The United States is not the richest country, the United States printed the most money.
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          1. Setrac
            Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 33
            0
            Quote: Lord
            Reading local comments oozing poison

            Where did you see the poison? Not a viper to complain about the victim's poison. You did everything so that, to put it mildly, they did not love you.
            The “Devil” bombed Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia and so on, the “devil” grows drugs in Afghanistan and Colombia, the list of your crimes is huge, and what can the Russians be blamed for? Not with anything!!!
            1. Lord
              Lord 26 October 2017 22: 46
              0
              Quote: Setrac
              You did everything so that, to put it mildly, they did not love you.

              Who is "you"? Do not look at the flag, it is lying.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 52
                0
                Quote: Lord
                Who is "you"? Do not look at the flag, it is lying.

                Didn't I hang it for you?
                1. Lord
                  Lord 26 October 2017 23: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Didn't I hang it for you?

                  You do worse, you hang tags.
                  Quote: Setrac
                  You did everything so that, to put it mildly, they did not love you.

                  With the same success, one can explain the general Russophobia in the world, which you (not personally) regularly complain about. Although it is closer to anti-Semitism in its essence.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 26 October 2017 23: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Lord
                    You do worse, you hang tags.

                    And you correspond to them.
                    1. Lord
                      Lord 27 October 2017 00: 29
                      0
                      Quote: Setrac
                      And you correspond to them.

                      A purely personal opinion, an indisputable truth cannot be by definition, due to the subjectivity of the perception of the surrounding world by an individual.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 27 October 2017 00: 32
                        0
                        Quote: Lord
                        A purely personal opinion, an indisputable truth cannot be by definition, due to the subjectivity of the perception of the surrounding world by an individual.

                        However, our view of the world is subjective in any way - objectivity is practically unattainable.
    2. Lord
      Lord 25 October 2017 22: 34
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      Through the lips of the author, yes, I would drink honey.

      Rather, slurp than drink, and obviously not honey.
      So much aplomb and peremptory allegations that no one has proven in so many years is either a sign of tyranny or deliberate slander.
  8. igorspb
    igorspb 25 October 2017 08: 52
    0
    We will overpay for the base))))
  9. shans2
    shans2 25 October 2017 10: 32
    +1
    Russia does not want to defend itself, the United States is already dying .... in general, where to go to the cunning Jew, I advise to Argentina and Brazil, where brothers of faith have already taken power ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 10: 37
      +4
      Quote: shans2
      Russia does not want to defend itself, the United States is already dying .... in general, where to go to the cunning Jew, I advise to Argentina and Brazil, where brothers of faith have already taken power ...

      But why take under protection a country with a developed economy and one armed better than the Bundeswehr? :)))
      Where did this megalomania come from?
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 25 October 2017 10: 47
        +1
        Or maybe they just made a mistake with the goals. The Americans have it all the time. And everything immediately falls into place. And there is no need to fantasize.
    2. sgrabik
      sgrabik 25 October 2017 11: 25
      +3
      Israel, a highly developed and self-sufficient country, the more it is necessary to find common ground and to establish relations between Russia and Israel, the hegemony of the United States will still sooner or later but will inevitably end and the world will begin to live according to new laws.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 25 October 2017 12: 56
        +2
        Quote: sgrabik
        Israel, a highly developed and self-sufficient country, the more it is necessary to find common ground and to establish relations between Russia and Israel, the hegemony of the United States will still sooner or later but will inevitably end and the world will begin to live according to new laws.

        Relationships are not bad, if they become even better - I am only for.
      2. Lord
        Lord 25 October 2017 22: 49
        +2
        Quote: sgrabik
        need to find common ground and to establish relations between Russia and Israel

        This has long been happening by leaps and bounds, just to some chauvinist throats - it's like a sickle in a causal place, so they are trying to reanimate the Soviet anti-Israeli rhetoric of the 70s, not realizing that the younger generation is vaccinated against such primitive propaganda, the availability of information "from the first hands. "
        The poor have a cognitive dissonance from the fact that the official position of the state (RF) today is diametrically opposite to their propaganda. Official Russia on Israel speaks exclusively positively or neutrally today, and even more so does not allow itself to be slandered.
        Soon, the last Soviet political leaders will die out like dinosaurs, and their inadequate rhetoric with them.
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 26 October 2017 09: 11
        +1
        Quote: sgrabik
        Israel, a highly developed and self-sufficient country, the more it is necessary to find common ground and to establish relations between Russia and Israel, the hegemony of the United States will still sooner or later but will inevitably end and the world will begin to live according to new laws.

        ... with the world on a thread - a naked rags embroidered with rhinestones from Tiffany ... with the world on a brick - homeless palace with the gardens of Babylon ... and so on!
        Highly developed Israel? Yeah, no resources!
        Sanctions? What about counter sanctions? Do not give bread - Israel will die of hunger, despite the kibbutzim! Compare - production and consumption volumes - products from imported raw materials ... Non-Kosher Arabic rice and lamb, corn ... vegetables ... sugar beets and cocoa beans ... - grown in the Negev desert!
        -----------------------
        pro-Israeli lobby in any country - does not strangle a small but arrogant aggressor!
        Small bug, but smelly ...
        1. Lord
          Lord 26 October 2017 21: 49
          +2
          Quote: CONTROL
          Highly developed Israel? Yeah, no resources!

          The main resource of Israel is brains. And without brains, some do not help much.
          Quote: CONTROL
          Compare - production and consumption volumes

          With pleasure we will compare - lay out your numbers. Do not be shy.
          Quote: CONTROL
          Small bug, but smelly ...

          For self-criticism plus.
  10. japs
    japs 25 October 2017 10: 54
    +4
    ... "And there is not far to the" dream come true "- the naval base of our fleet in almost Russian Haifa."

    There are no words ... Some thoughts ...
  11. LAWNER
    LAWNER 25 October 2017 10: 58
    +2
    Horses mixed in a bunch, people and volleys of thousands of guns merged into a long howl .......
    This opus looks like based on a sample of different articles .....
  12. Victor-M
    Victor-M 25 October 2017 11: 34
    0
    It is necessary to establish cooperation not with the enemy of your enemy, but with the partner of your enemy, this will be more productive. hi
  13. groks
    groks 25 October 2017 12: 11
    0
    If we exclude the dodgy motives from what happened and not assume a sudden and unreasonable turn of Israel, then we get the following. The blow was struck in an empty place, the militants withdrawn. And the blow itself was needed to support the justification for the division of Syria, which the USA is plotting. Now Israel can take part in this, on the basis of this blow itself.
  14. Robert Korsunsky
    Robert Korsunsky 25 October 2017 14: 03
    0
    Maybe someday this will happen, but unfortunately not now, and not even tomorrow.)
  15. Julio Jurenito
    Julio Jurenito 25 October 2017 15: 02
    +1
    Eka ruins rolled out - Russian Navy in Haifa! Why not immediately in Fort Ross, California ?!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 15: 14
      0
      Quote: Julio Jurenito
      Eka ruins rolled out - Russian Navy in Haifa! Why not immediately in Fort Ross, California ?!

      And to move the headquarters of the Western District to the Pentagon ...
  16. Zina389
    Zina389 25 October 2017 15: 57
    +7
    Israel almost began to live in a "multipolar" while Solovyov still only talks about him. The Chinese are building in Israel a port and a railway bypassing the canal. India expressed a desire to create missile defense based on the Israeli 4-tier system. Alabai does not take Shoigu puppies, received as a gift an air strike on the IS with a singing telegram on a closed line of communication with the Moscow Region. Lieberman promised, Lieberman did. Shoigu also recently came up to IS.
  17. Zina389
    Zina389 25 October 2017 16: 01
    +2
    Padded jacket pierced
    "Russian soldiers and Hezbollah soldiers are fighting in the same ranks with Syrian terrorists ... Today, 13:41"
    Potapov will be deprived of the prize.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 26 October 2017 20: 48
      0
      Quote: Zina389
      Potapov will be deprived of the prize.

      Not all Russians know Russian ....
      1. Lord
        Lord 26 October 2017 22: 00
        0
        Quote: Setrac
        Not all Russians know Russian ....

        This is unfortunate.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 35
          0
          Quote: Lord
          This is unfortunate.

          Here it would be possible to say that in the United States there are no less illiterates, but honestly, I should push this fact.
          1. Lord
            Lord 26 October 2017 23: 05
            0
            Quote: Setrac
            but to be honest I have to pump this fact

            This is absolutely correct, it worries and cares about your own people first of all ... well, unless your name is Mother Teresa, of which I doubt it.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 26 October 2017 23: 12
              +1
              Quote: Lord
              Well, maybe your name is Mother Teresa, which I doubt.

              You doubt it right, the name is Teresa, Mother is the surname ...
              1. Lord
                Lord 26 October 2017 23: 56
                0
                Quote: Setrac
                Mother is a surname ...

                Offset laughing
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 27 October 2017 00: 08
                  0
                  Quote: Lord
                  Offset

                  Ohhhhh, you finally woke up with a sense of humor. hi
  18. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 25 October 2017 17: 46
    +1
    padded jacket,
    Have you been to Rome? :)
    There is an arch in honor of the victory of Titus over the Jews and the conquest of Jerusalem.
    When you are - be sure to visit.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 25 October 2017 17: 51
      +1
      Quote: Krasnodar
      There is an arch in honor of the victory of Titus over the Jews and the conquest of Jerusalem.

      And what of what it is? There are many things in the world.
      1. Lord
        Lord 25 October 2017 22: 52
        +3
        Quote: quilted jacket
        And what of what it is?

        Logics? No, I have not heard.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 25 October 2017 23: 55
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Quote: Krasnodar
        There is an arch in honor of the victory of Titus over the Jews and the conquest of Jerusalem.

        And what of what it is? There are many things in the world.

        Here. She (arch) proves (gives proofs) that (sho) Jews (Jews) lived (had actual residence) in Jerusalem (600 kilometers from the bunker of the Fuhrer Hezbollah)
        Understood (understood, מבין, uncle, clear)?
  19. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva 25 October 2017 18: 36
    +1
    Israel bombed Daesh - don’t tell my horseshoes !!!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 23: 59
      +1
      Quote: kirillovleva
      Israel bombed Daesh - don’t tell my horseshoes !!!

      Are you Ksenia Sobchak?
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  20. without reverse
    without reverse 25 October 2017 18: 38
    +2
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy” recourse . So that the author would not be offended. In general, continuous graphomania and the “rehearsal of Caruso”.

    I completely agree with you bullshit .. if the Occupant transferred his structures to the captured city .. this does not mean that this is the official capital. the official capital recognized by all states and having their embassies in this city. something like aptor. learn the materiel.
    1. Lord
      Lord 25 October 2017 23: 16
      +4
      Quote: without reverse
      ... if an occupant ...

      The "expiration date" of this definition has expired. A generation that can be attributed to the "invaders" has almost all gone to another world. They were replaced by a generation born on this earth, and therefore they are already indigenous peopleand indigenous people cannot be occupiers by definition, this contradicts elementary logic.
      Quote: without reverse
      ... transferred its structures to the captured city .. this does not mean that it is the official capital. the official capital recognized by all states ...

      Also absurd in terms of logic. The law in any territory is established by one who has sovereignty over this territory, therefore, other people's laws and even opinions do not have the force and meaning in this territory.
      Let me give you an example - according to the laws of Russia, Crimea is considered part of the Russian Federation, therefore - no laws, regulations and decrees other than Russian have force in the Crimea, and as a result, are meaningless. Many countries do not agree with this, but their opinion does not matter, since this is not their territory. That's clearer?
      Quote: without reverse
      ... and having their embassies in this city.

      This is also not essential. Ambassadors are fulfilling their main work duties in the capital prescribed by the host country, regardless of where they sleep and take of private visitors.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 26 October 2017 00: 33
        +1
        Quote: Lord
        Quote: without reverse
        ... if an occupant ...

        The "expiration date" of this definition has expired. A generation that can be attributed to the "invaders" has almost all gone to another world. They were replaced by a generation born on this earth, and therefore they are already indigenous peopleand indigenous people cannot be occupiers by definition, this contradicts elementary logic.
        Quote: without reverse
        ... transferred its structures to the captured city .. this does not mean that it is the official capital. the official capital recognized by all states ...

        Also absurd in terms of logic. The law in any territory is established by one who has sovereignty over this territory, therefore, other people's laws and even opinions do not have the force and meaning in this territory.
        Let me give you an example - according to the laws of Russia, Crimea is considered part of the Russian Federation, therefore - no laws, regulations and decrees other than Russian have force in the Crimea, and as a result, are meaningless. Many countries do not agree with this, but their opinion does not matter, since this is not their territory. That's clearer?
        Quote: without reverse
        ... and having their embassies in this city.

        This is also not essential. Ambassadors are fulfilling their main work duties in the capital prescribed by the host country, regardless of where they sleep and take of private visitors.

        First of all, Jews still occupied Jerusalem. David recaptured from the Eusebes. True for a long time. Three thousand years ago. )))
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 25 October 2017 19: 24
    +2
    And there it is not far to the "sbychichi dream" - the naval base of our fleet in practically Russian Haifa.
    The author has a clear aggravation, and not the first time ... belay
    1. Rasich
      Rasich 25 October 2017 22: 26
      +1
      This is such a Jewish hutspa, the United States is an ordinary Zionist colony, and Israel will not live a month without the financial support of the world channel.
      1. Lord
        Lord 26 October 2017 00: 05
        +3
        Quote: Rasich
        and Israel cannot live a month without the financial support of a global channel.

        Rather, you will not live a month without slogans and propaganda, wither away under the yoke of reality.
        Too lazy to even refute your nonsense, the detailed economic indicators of Israel, and so it is in the public domain and even in Russian. But you most likely will not be engaged in self-education, for this you need to strain your brains.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 26 October 2017 00: 17
        +1
        Quote: Rasich
        This is such a Jewish hutspa, the United States is an ordinary Zionist colony, and Israel will not live a month without the financial support of the world channel.

        What is the problem? We’ll get autonomy in Zhukovka, by the way, it’s almost all ours .... (driving from Moscow along Rublevskoye Shosse, not reaching Borvikha, there is still a shopping center where Comedy Club is being rented now)
  22. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 26 October 2017 00: 46
    +1
    padded jacket,
    The permission of the Central Bank of Israel is advisory in nature. It is taken out that in turn not to get under sanctions. Is there a ban on the Israelis working with the Russian PL or YL from the sanctions list? )))))
  23. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 26 October 2017 00: 49
    +1
    padded jacket,
    According to a letter from the Israeli Central Bank, banks are allowed to deny Russian customers who are subject to sanctions to conduct new transactions, as well as terminate existing agreements with them
    Vatnik, where is the ban on working with the Russians from the sanctions list ??? )))))
  24. Yuriy Malyshko
    Yuriy Malyshko 26 October 2017 01: 05
    0
    Jews were never distinguished for their wisdom in nation building. Here they destroy the state of the master unsurpassed. And for thousands of years they have not been able to build their decent state. As a result, they always live, as if on a powder keg, surrounded by enemies.
  25. Zhivan
    Zhivan 26 October 2017 02: 27
    +1
    All clear!
    In Israel, 90% of the Khazars and 10% of the Jews!
    America is an English colony
    Israel occupied the land of Syria and Palestine!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 October 2017 08: 01
      +2
      Quote: Given
      All clear!
      In Israel, 90% of the Khazars and 10% of the Jews!
      America is an English colony
      Israel occupied the land of Syria and Palestine!

      There are some more miracles and Pechenegs ...
      1. Zhivan
        Zhivan 27 October 2017 01: 01
        0
        It is briefly said!
        World powers have moved
        Headquarters from London to Shanghai (China)!
  26. Morrrow
    Morrrow 26 October 2017 05: 22
    +2
    Graphomania
  27. Shahno
    Shahno 26 October 2017 21: 00
    +1
    Setrac,
    15 of the century? I understand that you do not read Aramaic. Syrian Codex, Sinai Codex. Because of my hobby, I held one of them in the original in my hands. And due to the knowledge of the language, I read the page.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 26 October 2017 23: 04
      0
      Quote: Shahno
      Setrac,
      15 of the century? I understand that you do not read Aramaic. Syrian Codex, Sinai Codex. Because of my hobby, I held one of them in the original in my hands. And due to the knowledge of the language, I read the page.

      You have no ancient originals of these manuscripts. The Syrian manuscript has been reliably (relatively reliably) in the Florentine library since the 16th century, this is its creation date, everything else is your lie aimed at aging your own history.
      The Sinai Code was generally found in the 19th century - this is the date of creation of this fake. There is no evidence that it was created in the 6th century.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 26 October 2017 23: 24
        0
        I repeat to you again. The physico-chemical analysis of the Syrian scrolls, as well as the analysis of experts from UNESCO linguists unambiguously points to the 4-7 century A.D.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 26 October 2017 23: 33
          0
          Quote: Shahno
          Physico-chemical analysis of Syrian scrolls

          What kind of physicochemical analysis?
          Quote: Shahno
          as well as an analysis of unesco linguists experts

          These are all speculations of pseudo-historians.
          Quote: Shahno
          unequivocally indicates the 4th-7th century AD.

          He was found in the 18th century and before that they did not know about him at all - a usual fake.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 27 October 2017 00: 12
            0
            Carbon isotope analysis with 14 (I understand that the accuracy of 100 is -200 years, but with calibration confidently). The paleomagnetic method, scrolls found in a pile of shards. Linguistic analysis (ancient Syriac can be distinguished from Hebrew).
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 27 October 2017 00: 20
              0
              Quote: Shahno
              Carbon isotope analysis from 14 (I understand that the accuracy is 100-200 years, but with calibration confidently)

              I will not ask how we learned the carbon isotope content in the past in different centuries because of nowhere.
              This radiocarbon analysis with comparative tables is how Munchausen pulled himself by the hair from the swamp. We need to check the dating using radiocarbon analysis, but since we don’t know the carbon isotope content in the past, we use a table built on the basis of the data that we need to check, the whole circle is closed, we’ll have to look for such clever scientists as historians - you’ll find .
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 26 October 2017 23: 29
        0
        I personally talked with the monks and scientific staff of the repository. And believe me, he was very critical of everything.
  28. Setrac
    Setrac 26 October 2017 22: 58
    +2
    Quote: Lord
    The Jewish presence, and most importantly - the preservation of self-organization and ways of life has not been interrupted On the land of Israel for more than 3000 years.

    This is all a lie, the Jews came "to the land of Israel" in the twentieth century, there is no evidence that biblical Israel was there and whether it was there at all, except for a collection of Jewish tales.
    The younger the state - the more ancient history it writes to itself, until recently, the "oldest" were the Jews, but now the "most ancient" - "ykry", the Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea, and the Jews, apparently, the Mediterranean.
  29. Zina389
    Zina389 27 October 2017 15: 59
    0
    It is funny that the Jews, just consider the story of the Khazars and the victory of the kingdom of Kiev over them, a fairy tale. This story, about Khazar Judaism, stems from the tales of a medieval Jewish writer who lived in Spain, and the story of victories over them from Russian epics. A completely different Bible, a book published by more than a billion copies, thousands of studies of historians and archaeologists have been carried out on it. Only fascists and complete stupid people call all this tales.
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 30 October 2017 00: 02
      0
      Quote: Zina389
      Only fascists and complete stupid people call all this tales.

      Of course! God created the World in 6 days, then created Adam, from his rib Eve, Adam lived 930 years, Seth lived 807 years, Noah (from whom all mankind came, and all the biological diversity of the world from the cargo of his ship) lived 950 years ...
      Of course
      Quote: Zina389
      Only fascists and complete stupid people call all this tales.
      am
      1. ver_
        ver_ 1 November 2017 18: 36
        0
        ... Bulo 2 of Eve .., the first God destroyed - really * complained * Adam of this * cross * creation of the Lord .., then the Lord created Eve -2 from Adam’s rib .., however, the radish horseradish was not sweeter .. God didn’t do experiments in this field anymore ..
  30. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 October 2017 08: 59
    0
    Wonderful things are your Lord. It seems to me, even in the days of the USSR, we did not have such influence in the Middle East as now. It is clearly seen that politics and the Armed Forces, as its tool, play on the economic interests of the country.
  31. fif21
    fif21 28 October 2017 22: 10
    0
    No matter how it actually happened, in Russia and in the east they can distinguish when they spit in the hand extended for a handshake, and when they shake it. You need to fight terrorists, not flirt (it’s more expensive for yourself) hi
  32. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 08
    0
    The main enemies were Syria and Iran. Traditional claims, shootings, recriminations. The Arabs diligently tried to destroy the "small but proud state."
    Since when did Iran and Syria become Arabs ???
    The author is not aware of the elementary Middle Eastern alignments? Persians and Arabs are antagonists. For that matter, then Jews whose half of the holy books are written in Aramaic can be attributed to the side branch of Persian civilization, to the peak of the Arabian.
    And there, not far from the "dream come true" - the naval base of our fleet in practically Russian Haifa
    Dreams Dreams,
    Where is your sweetness ?.
  33. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 23: 47
    0
    Quote: Lord
    And these are the Golan Heights.

    A simple question: the successor of what historical public education is modern Israel?
    Aramaic Empire, Roman Empire, Arab Caliphate? Or is it a nonsense remake ???
    1. ksp
      ksp 30 October 2017 00: 34
      0
      Quote: AllXVahhaB
      Quote: Lord
      And these are the Golan Heights.

      A simple question: the successor of what historical public education is modern Israel?
      Aramaic Empire, Roman Empire, Arab Caliphate? Or is it a nonsense remake ???

      And what is the Aramaic empire?
      As far as I remember, Israel as a state was formed before the Roman and especially the Ottoman Empire.
      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 30 October 2017 05: 54
        0
        Quote: ksp
        And what is the Aramaic empire?


        Several ancient states of the Aramaeans (descendants of Aram) in the territory of Mesopotamia. Aramaea (Eng. Aram) - a biblical country; "high country" as opposed to "low", Canaan.
        The Old Testament distinguishes between the six Aramaic kingdoms.
        Quote: ksp
        As far as I remember, Israel as a state was formed before the Roman and especially the Ottoman Empire.

        And the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea ... I ask a specific and simple question: which one historical State education is inherited by modern Israel. I did not say a word about the Ottomans. These are generally left-wing passengers in the Middle East. Aliens Local are three civilizations: Babylonian (cut), Aramaic and Arab. Between the last two millennia, there is a massacre! So whose modern Israel will be? Just do not about your own path and the tribes of Israel. And then, indeed, the ancient Ukrainians are remembered ...
  34. myobius59
    myobius59 30 October 2017 16: 12
    0
    Quote: Lord
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    You don’t even know how to react to this “fantasy”

    But do not react to it. The marginal minority that circulates such libel does not reflect either the official policy of the Kremlin or the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation. Such articles are the lot of the yellow press, which throws itself on the fan, in pursuit of rating among low-intellectual members of society.
    Facts indicate a state of things that is diametrically opposite to their slander, but facts do not interest them. Fortunately, the instinct for self-preservation of society today does not allow such inadequacies to more or less influential positions.
    So by and large, their slander and incitement to hatred based on prejudice does not affect anything. Launching their painful imagination to their health, everyone chooses what poison to poison.

    Something strong you smoked in the morning, such words, such phrases !!! Already pinched in the nose.
    It’s a pity, I’ll be banned again, otherwise I would have written to you what to do there in “okiyan” so as not to write anything here .... Well, you understand.
    And never sign up for the majority of "Russian citizens." With such a powerful intellect, it didn’t bother you. You, in the caste of the elect, immortal .. Like Pushkin, above the "pillar of Alexandria." So the "majority" will not understand you.
  35. myobius59
    myobius59 30 October 2017 16: 31
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    Setrac,
    15 of the century? I understand that you do not read Aramaic. Syrian Codex, Sinai Codex. Because of my hobby, I held one of them in the original in my hands. And due to the knowledge of the language, I read the page.

    And so, the whole page? For more mind was not enough, knowledge of the language, or is it just impossible to read such crap?
    So here I am, I’ll open another book, start reading, and after a couple of pages I understand that I can’t read this nonsense ...
  36. ver_
    ver_ 1 November 2017 18: 05
    0
    Quote: Vanych
    yeah, Shoigu Lieberman slammed his head, but he was offended and kicked the Allies in the ass

    ... maybe the Jewish congresses of the communities can still return to their promised lands and be shy in their historical homeland - why the hell is not joking ...