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Black Sea Shipyard: the foundation and the first ships

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120 years ago, in the south of Russia, a plant was established that created a wide range of ships and boats from barges and pontoons to TAKR and a research vessel providing operational control of spacecraft. History and the fate of the Black Sea Shipyard is inextricably linked with the history of Russia.


Black Sea Shipyard: the foundation and the first ships


A remarkable article was published in the newspaper Southerner, published in Nikolaev, in the Saturday issue of 11 (24) in October 1897. It reported to readers that 9 (21) October 1897 was a landmark event in the city. With a large gathering of the public, mostly eminent (among whom stood the mayor Vasily Andreyevich Datsenko and the head of the Nikolaev port, a representative of the famous naval dynasty, Major General A. P. Pereleshin), a solemn prayer service and the consecration of the factory premises of the Society of Shipbuilding, mechanical and foundries in Nikolaev belonging, as the newspaper wrote, to an anonymous society. After visiting the workshops of the plant, some of which were already working, a solemn dinner was given, where they pronounced toast for Emperor Nicholas II, and in honor of the Belgian King Leopold II (an anonymous society based on Belgian capitals), a hymn was performed.

A large enterprise, equipped with the latest technology, was ready to fulfill both state and private orders. Under the text of the article it was reported that the Society of Shipbuilding, Mechanical and Foundry Plants in Nikolaev accepts orders for the manufacture of various craft from boats and barges to cargo and passenger ships, railway equipment, cars and locomotives.

Thus began the long, hard and glorious journey of one of the shipbuilding giants of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, better known as the Black Sea Shipbuilding Plant, which gave our the fleet hundreds of ships from tugboats to heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers.

Shipyard in the south of the empire

25 September 1895 in Brussels, the Belgian entrepreneurs Francois and Orban founded the "Anonymous Society of Shipbuilding, Mechanical and Foundries in the city of Nikolaev." In the same 1895, on a plot of land near the Southern Bug River in Nikolaev, rented for 30 years, the construction of a large plant began. The initial capital of the company amounted to 12 million Belgian francs, or 4,5 million rubles.

The place and the country were chosen by the board of society not by chance. At that time, Russia willingly absorbed foreign capital — the Russian government promised the Belgian industrialists full support. In addition, in 1891, a law was passed on levying high duties on ships imported from abroad, which was supposed to stimulate the domestic shipbuilding industry. True, in 1898, the 10-year moratorium was introduced to this law. Such a delay was associated with an increase in the export of grain and raw materials and the facilitation of the export procedure. The favorable location of Nikolaev also played a significant role: during this period, its port occupied the third place in the empire in terms of cargo turnover after St. Petersburg and Odessa.

Russia planned to intensively develop not only commercial, but also military shipbuilding in the Black Sea basin, and the Belgian shareholders quite reasonably considered their project very profitable.

The prospective shipyard was supposed to be much more equipped and productive than the Nikolaev Admiralty existing in the city. The company, which was informally called “Naval” (from the French “sea”), or the French plant, began operating before the official opening of 9 (21) in October 1897 of the year. Later, this name was rooted in official documentation. The workshops of the plant were located rationally and successfully: they were erected in one row, between them they were connected by a railway line. According to the plan, it was supposed to be a whole complex, including a shipyard with a closed boathouse, a machine-building plant that manufactures steam engines and auxiliary machinery for ships under construction, a boiler house and a bridge-building enterprise, a car-building plant, a pig iron, bronze and steel foundry, and besides blacksmithing.


Locomotive produced by the factory "Naval" 1910


During 1898, more than 3 thousand workers were employed at an already operating enterprise. By the end of the first reporting year, the plant gave products to 2,8 million rubles. The territory of "Naval" exceeded 50 hectares. Of all the components of the enterprise, the largest and most well-equipped was shipbuilding. The covered boathouse was completed by the year 1900 - it was an impressive building with a length of 150 m, a width of 60 m and a height of 32 meter. This allowed the construction in it of two squadron battleships or four ships of smaller displacement.


Indoor boathouse of the factory "Naval" 1911


To assemble gun turrets near the boiler-bridge workshop, a foundation pit with a depth of 10 and a diameter of 7 meters was dug and concreted. It was served by a specially installed electric crane with a lifting capacity of more than 30 tons. The forging shops had presses in 900, 300 and 100 tons. The car company was able to produce the 72 car monthly. However, the main specialization of the plant was shipbuilding.

XX century begins

Shortly after the start of its activities, in addition to the release of various different products, "Naval" joined the shipbuilding stream of the Russian Empire. In 1901, the construction of their own warships has already begun. These were 350-ton destroyers of the “Violent” type of the Baltic Plant - “Zavetny” and “Zavidny”. Initially, these ships were to be built in St. Petersburg with the subsequent transfer to the Black Sea Fleet. However, due to the overload of the Baltic shipyards with their own products, as well as because of the too high price requested by the company “B. Creighton and Co. ”, it was decided to entrust the construction of these destroyers“ Naval ”.


Destroyer "Enviable" (350 tons), launched in 1903


The ships were laid in 1901 year, launched in the 1903-m. At the end of this year, the ships were taken into the Black Sea Fleet. The delay in construction was caused primarily by the late delivery of technical documentation and numerous rework carried out during construction. In 1902, the city of Naval received a contract for the construction of three more destroyers on a similar project. In addition, the plant was to manufacture equipment and mechanisms for squadron battleships under construction in the Nikolaevsky Admiralty and Sevastopol. So for the “Prince Potemkin Tavrichesky” it was supposed to make towers of the main caliber.

The three destroyers, which received the names Zadorny, Voiced and Vigilant, were laid at the beginning of 1904. If the construction period of their buildings did not exceed 10 months, the completion and sea trials, as with the first two, dragged on. Several factors have played their negative role: delays in the supply of equipment, constant changes in the project, the Russian-Japanese war and revolutionary events. Therefore, the destroyers of this series were commissioned by the Black Sea Fleet only in 1904 – 1905.

In the autumn of 1905, the Naval launched two more interesting ships. At the beginning of the 20th century, a competition for the construction of two security cruisers was announced to protect Russian seal trades in the Far East, whose function was primarily to hunt numerous foreign poachers. Taking advantage of the remoteness of the Russian Far East from the center of the country, numerous effective managers with an extremely simplified attitude to international law were engaged in the rapacious extermination of a valuable commercial beast in Russian territorial waters. “The Japanese are rowing for themselves, the British are happy to steal, the American poacher is a hundred times more greedy,” Radyard Kipling rather self-critically captured the situation in his Ballad of Three Kitties. The competition, announced by the Ministry of Agriculture and State Property, won the Nikolaev plant.


Security cruiser "Commander Bering"


The security cruisers “Commander Bering” and “Lieutenant Dydymov” built on the “Naval” had a displacement of about 400 tons and were armed with two 47-mm guns. After the end of the Russian-Japanese war, these ships went to the Far East to serve as intended.

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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 26 October 2017 05: 34
    +5
    The country was built, developed, strengthened, and without tears and rumors.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 26 October 2017 07: 03
      +4
      Well, I wouldn’t say that .. Considering the upheavals that began after some seven years ... They didn’t let it build and develop. Yes, and the authorities let us down. And the plant is famous .. It's a pity that most likely it has no future ..
      Quote: Olgovich
      The country was built, developed, strengthened, and without tears and rumors.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 26 October 2017 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, I wouldn’t say that .. Given the shocks that began after some seven years ...Not given to build and develop

        No not like this. There is a history of the plant: after 1907 new workshops and berths were built, the plant grew factor of.
        According to the requirements of the Ministry of the Sea - “to build ships according to new shipbuilding programs only at Russian plants and by the hands of Russian workers”, the Russian joint-stock company became the owner of the plant
    2. Eight
      Eight 26 October 2017 07: 54
      +7
      "The country was built, developed, strengthened, and without tears and rumors."
      1897 - Opening of the Black Sea Plant.
      1899 - The first major political strike of 700 workers at a boiler and bridge building workshop.
      1902 - general strike.
      1905-1907 - local and general strikes, demonstrations and armed clashes with the police and troops, continuous mass arrests of striking and rebel workers.
      Well, until 1917 - when the development for some reason abruptly ended. What did these workers lack? Are you really crazy about fat?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 26 October 2017 09: 35
        +1
        Quote: Eight
        1897 - Opening of the Black Sea Plant.
        1899 - The first major political strike of 700 workers at a boiler and bridge building workshop.
        1902 - general strike.
        1905-1907 - local and general strikes, demonstrations and armed clashes with the police and troops, continuous mass arrests of striking and rebel workers.
        Well, until 1917

        So why didn’t you continue? After 1907- NO strikes.
        But there is a huge construction and further development of the plant.
        Quote: Eight
        Well, until 1917 - when the development for some reason abruptly ended. What did these workers lack? Are you really crazy about fat?

        My relative at the Mercedes factory also sometimes goes on strike, this is normal.
        With fat, not fat, but could eat and dress like in 1913, only after 40 years .....
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 26 October 2017 09: 43
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          With fat, not fat, but could eat and dress like in 1913, only after 40 years .....

          Another portion of lies? What doesn’t sit in sunny Moldova, where they manage to declare the President incapacitated for a couple of hours, so as to smuggle openly pro-Western defense ministry?
          The Soviet government chose energy and, above all, electrification as the object of the program for restoring the development of the national economy. The GOELRO commission (18 people) was created, which over the year prepared the book "The Plan for the Electrification of Russia". The plan, which formulated tasks for the most important types of industrial products for 10-15 years, was approved in December 1921. The capacity of power plants in Russia (USSR) over 12 years (1921-1932) increased 15 times. For the years 1918-1928. 2200 large state-owned enterprises built and rebuilt were commissioned. By the end of the 20s of the XX century. In the USSR, a program for the development of industry was determined. The State Planning Committee developed the first five-year plan for the end of 1928 — 1932. The “third cycle of intensive industrialization” began (1929–1940), interrupted in 1941 by the invasion of fascist Germany and its allies.

          This cycle took place in new social, cultural and political conditions, on a new ideological basis and with a new type of organization of the economy. In the 30s of the XX century. historical Russia in the form of the USSR turned into an industrial-agrarian country. The volume of industrial production in the USSR in 1940 exceeded the level of 1913 by 7,69 times.
          And at the expense of your lies on nutrition., Let’s see here. Http://detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430/? Page =
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          1. Gopnik
            Gopnik 26 October 2017 11: 35
            +2
            It is a fact. Even Khrushchov wrote that workers under the tsar lived better.
            So I did not understand, did Soviet workers eat electricity?

            Quote: Pancir026
            The capacity of power plants in Russia (USSR) over 12 years (1921–1932) increased 15 times.


            Cool. Ask how many times she fell in 3 years - from 1917 to 1921.
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 26 October 2017 11: 46
              +1
              Quote: Gopnik
              It is a fact. Even Khrushchov wrote that workers under the tsar lived better.

              Even Khrushchev wrote ... so what? But Khrushchev didn’t write that barely 2% lived well among industrial workers?
              "The arrangement of the workshops is the same everywhere. Along the walls with windows there are" stands ", that is, four racks with crossbeams connecting them, so that against each window there is formed something like a cage with a length of 4 and a width of 2½-3 arches. Each such stand serves both the place of work and the housing of the "camp" family - the working unit of the matting factories, yet the rest of the space, that is, the middle of the workshop and the aisles between the camps and large Russian stoves, is completely occupied by a hanging bast.
              .
              Thus, each stand of the gun workshop is no more, no less, like a stall, where the family spends all 24 hours of the day. Here the gunners work, and here they eat and rest; here they sleep, one on the boards laid on the upper frame of the camps, so that something like flights is formed, others on heaps of bast on the floor — of course, there is no question of beds; here they give birth before the eyes of the entire population of the workshop, here, capturing, they “lie down” if the body is still able to overcome the disease, and here they die, even if from infectious diseases.
              .
              The entire population of these workshops is so crowded that only in a third of cases each living person accounts for 1 to 1,3 cubic seconds. air / 1 sazhen = 2,13 m., 1 cubic = 9,71 cubic meters /, and in 65% of cases (out of 60 workshops) each accounted for only 0,4-0,9 cubic seconds. "Would you like to live in such conditions?
              Or in those?
              “As an example of the hired premises of workers in huts, we will describe one of the ordinary in the village of Ozery.
              .
              In the hut about two rooms, 7 and 7 long with 6 arshins / 1 arshin = 0,71 m /, with a floor-to-ceiling height of 3¼ arsh., With a cubic capacity of both rooms (minus the volume of the furnace) in 10,32 cc With., were placed 4 spinners with wives, 17 guys and boys - pieders and builders, and 15 women and girls - bank tellers and winders, all together with the mistress of the hut 41 people in a space of 86 square arshins; each tenant, therefore, had an area of ​​2,09 square meters. arsh. / 1 sq. arsh. = 0,505 sq. m. / and air volume of 0,25 cubic meters. s., not even taking into account either the space occupied by the furniture, or the air displaced by any belongings. - The very same picture is presented by special furnished rooms.

              So, in one of these houses in the Lakes, in sixteen lockers, like the usual closets of the factory barracks, workers were housed in a complete mixture of sexes and ages, each ranging from 0,23 to 0,43 cubic meters. with. Air and from 1,48 to 2,75 sq. arsh. floor area. "
              http://ss69100.livejournal.com/1056664.html
              Your cry will follow about "Russia-feeding-all-Europe-wheat" or, in extreme cases, half of Europe, "while the USSR imported bread", trying to prove in such a cheating way that the path of socialism of the USSR was less effective than the path of tsarism. Then, of course, about the “crunch of French rolls”, the enterprising and quick-witted Russian merchants, the God-fearing, kind-hearted and high-moral God-bearing people, which were ruined by the Bolshevik bastards, “the best people who were ruined and expelled by the Bolsheviks.” Well, the truth is, what kind of vicious talker must be in order to destroy such an exalted pastoral?
              1. Gopnik
                Gopnik 26 October 2017 16: 15
                +1
                When it was written Khrushchev was 3 years old. But, in principle, no worse than in the wooden barracks of the pre-war USSR.

                Quote: Pancir026
                "Russia-feeding-all-Europe-wheat" or, in extreme cases, half-Europe, "while the USSR imported bread"


                Well, you see, you yourself know everything. Just clown around. That is exactly what happened. And Russian peasants under the tsar lived better than collective farmers in the USSR
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 27 October 2017 09: 14
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                  Quote: Gopnik
                  Just clown around.

                  Undoubtedly, you are paired with a certain "expert" in evil oligovich scribbles.
                  Quote: Gopnik
                  And Russian peasants under the tsar lived better than collective farmers in the USSR

                  Are these fantasies from the specialized institution of the great psychiatrist, Professor Kashchenko?
                  V.G. Korolenko, who lived in the village for many years, who was in other starving regions in the early 1890s and organized canteens for the starving and the distribution of food loans, left very characteristic testimonies of public servants:

                  “You are a fresh person, stumble upon a village with dozens of typhoid patients, see a sick mother bend over the cradle of a sick child to feed him, lose consciousness and lie above him, and there is no one to help, because her husband mutters on the floor in incoherent delirium. And you are horrified. And the "old servant" is used to it. He had already experienced this, he was horrified twenty years ago, had been ill, boiled over, calmed down ... Typhoid? But we always have it! Quinoa? Yes, we have this one every year! .. ”
                  Professor of Medicine and Doctor Emil Dillon lived in Russia from 1877 to 1914 a year, worked as a professor at several Russian universities, traveled extensively in all regions of Russia and saw the situation at all levels at all levels - from ministers to poor peasants. This is an honest scientist, completely disinterested in the distortion of reality.

                  Here is how he describes the life of the middle peasant of imperial times:

                  “The Russian peasant ... goes to bed at six or five in the evening in the winter, because he cannot spend money on the purchase of kerosene for a lamp. He does not have meat, eggs, butter, milk, often does not have cabbage, he lives mainly on black bread and potatoes. Lives? He is starving to death due to the lack of them. ”
                  The scientist-chemist and agronomist A.N. Engelhardt, lived in the village and left a classic fundamental research of the reality of the Russian village - “Letters from the village”:

                  “Anyone who knows the village, who knows the situation and way of life of the peasants, does not need statistics and calculations to know that we are not selling bread abroad in excess ... In a person from an intelligent class, such a doubt is understandable, because I just don’t believe it, how is it that people live without eating. And yet this is indeed so. It’s not that they weren’t eating at all, but were malnourished, they were starving, they were eating all kinds of rubbish. We send wheat, good clean rye abroad, to the Germans, who won’t eat any rubbish ... Our peasant farmer doesn’t have enough wheat bread for a baby’s nipple, a woman will chew a rye crust, which she eats, put in a rag - suck»

                  Would you like to live the life of a Russian peasant of those times?
                  1. Gopnik
                    Gopnik 27 October 2017 12: 08
                    +1
                    And you do not want to live the life of the Soviet peasants of the 30s, who were dying of hunger in millions? Do you feel hungry and die of hunger? What do you choose?
                    1. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 27 October 2017 12: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Gopnik
                      And you do not want to live the life of the Soviet peasants of the 30s, who were dying of hunger in millions?

                      And you still have a little bream gather a bunch, you will succeed. Refer to Solzhenitsyn. Bunin, Chubais, they will believe you.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 26 October 2017 12: 23
            +1
            Quote: Pancir026
            The next portion of lies?What doesn’t sit in sunny Moldova, where they manage to declare the President incapacitated for a couple of hours in order to smuggle openly pro-Western Defense Ministry?

            Portion of TRUTH, dear friend! yes
            Quote: Pancir026
            farms chose energy and, above all, electrification. The GOELRO commission (18 people) was created, which over the year prepared the book "The Plan for the Electrification of Russia". The plan, which formulated tasks on the most important types of industrial products for 10-15 years, was approved in December 1921. The capacity of power plants in Russia (USSR) over 12 years (1921-1932) increased 15 times. For the years 1918-1928. 2200 built and restored were commissioned

            Why is this bored chatter already? request
            Deny Owls Secret Report of the Central Statistical Bureau of the USSR Bulganin 1955, where the SECRET data is given that only after 40 years, as a result of inhuman efforts and the same victims, caught up with 1913. No wonder they secretly!
            1. Eight
              Eight 26 October 2017 20: 11
              +1
              Compared to the nutrition of the population in pre-revolutionary Russia, the nutrition of the population in 1954 has improved significantly. The population of the USSR in 1954 per capita in relation to the pre-revolutionary period was (in percent):

              Bread Products
              <p>2019<p>
              Potatoes
              <p>2019<p>
              Vegetables and gourds
              <p>2019<p>
              Meat and fat
              <p>2019<p>
              Fish and fish by-products
              <p>2019<p>
              Milk and dairy products in milk
              <p>2019<p>
              Eggs
              <p>2019<p>
              Sugar
              <p>2019<p>

              Compared to pre-revolutionary times, the nutrition of the population of the USSR improved both in quantity and quality: consumption of vegetables and melons, eggs, fish and sugar increased significantly, consumption of milk and dairy products, meat and meat products increased by 14-19 percent. It should be borne in mind that the labor of workers and peasants is currently significantly mechanized and requires less energy. Before the revolution, the labor of peasants, who constituted the bulk of the population of tsarist Russia, was associated with a large expenditure of energy: on mowing, energy expenditures reached 7300 calories, on a plowman with a plow - 5242 calories, on a bunch of sheaves - 4957 calories.
              This is from that secret report you are so hard on. What should be refuted?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 27 October 2017 08: 45
                0
                Quote: Eight
                What should be refuted?

                The first table and the second, comrade 8. Do not see them?
                1913 - 200 kg
                37g -192
                40 g-195
                50 g-172
                meat and fat (with boiled meat)
                1913 g-27 kg
                1937-18 ("socialism-built!" (Leader)good )
                40 g - 24
                50 26
                Fabrics
                1913 .. 17,2 m2 / person
                37 14,8
                40 14,1
                50 16,3
                etc.

                Do you think the norm is that only by the age of 50 they barely caught up with 1913 in food, but they dressed anyway, worse? A separate topic is that these figures are a gross deception. This testimonial complete failure power and gross deception for decades.
                No wonder the stamp "PERFECT SECRET" stands on it ...
                1. Eight
                  Eight 27 October 2017 09: 32
                  +1
                  I will not even discuss this topic. This can be done with a person who is able to think logically. And you have any bast in a row, if only to match your point of view. If you use these figures as an illustration of the inefficiency of a socialist economy, what kind of discussion can be. With such analytical skills, you would not even be allowed into the “enemy voices” at one time.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 27 October 2017 10: 23
                    +1
                    Quote: Eight
                    I will not even discuss this topic.

                    It’s clear that you can’t
                    Quote: Eight
                    If you use these figures as an illustration of the inefficiency of a socialist economy, what kind of discussions can there be?

                    Yeah with in numbers complete failure, you can’t argue. Yes, tell us how many hundreds of thousands of tractors, how many billions were invested (ditched) to “reach” ... 1913.
                    Quote: Eight
                    With such analytical skills, you would not even be allowed into the “enemy voices” at one time.

                    lol
                    1. Eight
                      Eight 27 October 2017 10: 29
                      +2
                      Everything - everything, Olgovich, I don’t serve on Fridays, using the advice of a wise Turkish citizen. The whole site knows this way of walking in a circle. Your “revelations” are usually commented so that readers see a different point of view, and not in order to convince you, since this (convincing you) is a waste of time, known to everyone who has been on the site for at least a month. All the best.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 27 October 2017 10: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: Eight
                        Everything - everything, Olgovich, I don’t serve on Fridays, using the advice of a wise Turkish citizen. The whole site knows this way of walking in a circle. Your “revelations” are usually commented so that readers see a different point of view, and not in order to convince you, since this (convincing you) is a waste of time, known to everyone who has been on the site for at least a month. All the best.

                        Do not convince me, but any mentally healthy person, that the time when he eats and dresses poorly for decades is better than the time when he ate and dressed .... better. lol
                        Good luck! laughing
                      2. Gopnik
                        Gopnik 27 October 2017 12: 13
                        +1
                        Why so many words. Just have the courage to admit that Olgovich is right.
                2. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 27 October 2017 10: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  "TOP SECRET"

                  Take off your black glasses. You have eyes on the back of your head and read the other side of the sheet.
                  The report sets out the difficulties of the country in the post-war period, gives recommendations for improving things, but the REPORT does not contain the stupidity you talk about here.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Do you think the norm is that only by the age of 50 they barely caught up with 1913 in food, but they dressed anyway, worse?

                  The stupidest conclusion from the Report.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 27 October 2017 13: 58
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                    Quote: Pancir026
                    Take off your black glasses. You have eyes on the back of your head and read the other side of the sheet.

                    FIGURES see.
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    The report sets out the difficulties of the country in the post-war period, gives recommendations for improving things, but the REPORT does not contain the stupidity you talk about here.

                    Who needs your interpretation? The figures impartially show how, 10 years after the THLA, with a flawed but free economy, the economy almost recovered, and after collectivization, the many millions of victims of famine and dispossessed, the deepest failure of 1937-40, in relation to 1913, its level restored to the 50th.
                    Yes, according to your favorite Chayanov and Mironov in the beginning of the century consumption was 4840 kcal, and in the Report in 1954 g consumption in the RSFSR 2834 kcal.
                    That's all, my friend, no words needed, the numbers are eloquent.
                    PS. You can not thank me for enlightenment. hi
                    1. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 28 October 2017 14: 29
                      +1
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      FIGURES see.

                      Unlike you, I look not only at numbers. But I understand what is written. You, there is no understanding of either numbers or the essence of what is written.
                      So, how did people eat before the revolution? Whitcroft writes about 2964 calories per capita, and Allen writes a maximum of 2600.
                      And your tsifirki. As always from extremely Russophobic sources and tendentious-Prokopovich S.N. The national economy of the USSR - New York, 1952 v. 2, p. 121 This is also confirmed by the cited Polevanov (Russia: the price of life. \\ "Economic Strategies", 1999, No. 1, pp. 102-103) Osokina also wrote a solid work with the saying "Behind the facade of" Stalin's abundance ": Distribution and the market in supplying the population during the years of industrialization. 1927-1941 - M., 1999Who now believes in patented enemies? Olgovich? Well, yes. He is supposed to lie and use a false texture.
                      So, your scribble, an ordinary dump of dirt, and the situation is this.
                      http://ss69100.livejournal.com/2677962.html
                      Do you want to answer for this?
                      There was no war, no Civil War, no drought, but there was a counter-revolution of thieves, rotten intelligentsia and party nomenclature with the help of the West.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 29 October 2017 14: 00
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                        Quote: Pancir026
                        And your numbers. As always from extremely Russophobic sources and tendentious

                        My digits-STALIN my friend, CSB of the USSR. Relentless impartial witnesses to complete failure. Or you and the leader, do not believe ?! belay lol
                        Refute them, the FOURTH time I propose! lol
            2. Pancir026
              Pancir026 27 October 2017 09: 25
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              Quote: Olgovich
              Portion of TRUTH, dear friend!

              Your "truth" stinks of mercaptan, and your dear friends eat up the horse under the bridge.
              Quote: Olgovich
              Why is this bored chatter already?

              Really. Why YOUR chatter?
              You do not want to talk about Moldova, poverty from poverty, BEFORE Soviet power and POVERTY fell after 90?
              The report of the CSB — and what's the secret and stunning?
              Any anti-Soviet and Russophobe seeks at least a piece of dirt in order to throw in the past? Well, what have they found there. Besides recommendations for improving the nutrition of the population. Do you read through black glasses?
              So what about the "inhuman conditions and sacrifices", when in the villages the compound feed was eaten-to 90, to itself, a Russophobic accomplice of liberal cannibals.
              During the war, the nutrition of the population of the USSR worsened, but by 1950, the pre-war level of nutrition was surpassed and in subsequent years it systematically increased. In 1954, the consumption of the population of the USSR in relation to 1940 was (in percent):


              Bread Products - 92

              Potato - 130

              Vegetables and gourds - 99

              Meat and Fat - 133

              Fish and fish products - 175

              Milk
              and dairy products
              in milk - 122

              Eggs - 156

              Vegetable oil - 209

              Sugar - 240
              From the "secret report" of the CSB.
              1. Gopnik
                Gopnik 27 October 2017 12: 16
                +1
                Hallelujah! After 41 years (!!!) they were able to overtake the king-priest! This, of course, is a success, yes. And they could according to the Soviet, underestimated for 1913, data.
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 1 November 2017 08: 20
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                  Quote: Gopnik
                  ! After 41 years (!!!)

                  Put another hundred exclamation points - just you show
                  tim like your ignorance?
                  I read you yes olgovich and I understand that you are essentially empty people.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  The year 1940 was in a deep, pit-relative to 1913 you don’t see?
                  After collectivization, the millions of victims of famine and dispossessed, the deepest failure of 1937-40, in relation to 1913.

                  Oh, an example of a stupid statement, with the sauce of supposedly "Stalinist figures"

                  From ... it does not bother Russophobic anti-Soviet leaders that the USSR won the war with collective farms, and not Germany with Hitler ..
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 27 October 2017 14: 07
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                Quote: Pancir026
                During the war, the nutrition of the population of the USSR deteriorated, but by 1950, the pre-war level of nutrition was surpassed and in subsequent years it systematically increased. In 1954, the consumption of the population of the USSR in relation to by 1940 amounted to (

                The year 1940 was in a deep, pit-relative to 1913 you don’t see? lol
                After collectivization, the many millions of victims of famine and dispossessed, the deepest failure of 1937-40, in relation to 1913. This Stalin statistics.
                Discover the true history of our country - in figures and facts hi
        2. Eight
          Eight 26 October 2017 10: 27
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          Do you want to continue? Please.
          January 11, 1916 in Nikolaev the famous "Nikolaev strike" began - one of the largest strikes in Russia during the years of the 1st World War.
          Workers of the shipyard "Naval" ("Society of Nikolaev shipbuilding and mechanical plants and shipyards") presented the administration of the plant with a request for an increase in salary, which was rejected. As a result, all workers in the plant were dismissed in February 1916, and the plant itself was closed by order of the Minister of the Sea I.K. Grigorovich.
          Obviously, as a result of development without tears and rumors, such an excess of shipbuilding capacities was formed that the plant could be closed, and the workers lived so well that they went on strike on the whole plant. You can see the champagne in the buffet was stale.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 26 October 2017 12: 30
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            Quote: Eight
            On January 11, 1916, the famous "Nikolaev strike" began in Nikolaev - one of the largest strikes in Russia during the years of the 1st World War. It was clear that the champagne in the buffet was stale.

            The war, you know, was-the worst war in the history of mankind. In France and England, many would simply be shot or imprisoned. for sabotage.
            And then, the increase of SALES is required- during the war fool The leadership of the country was too kind; they hoped for consciousness and patriotism.
            Imagine this in the Second World War.
            1. Eight
              Eight 26 October 2017 13: 06
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              Your answers, Olgovich, evoke jokes about our dear Ilyich II, who at the end of his era (by anecdote) led the country without regaining consciousness. You are not his peer, an hour?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 26 October 2017 14: 43
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                Quote: Eight
                Your answers, Olgovich, recall

                Alas, the eighth complaint is not addressed request .
                1. Eight
                  Eight 26 October 2017 14: 46
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                  What does it mean at the wrong place? And then who writes the answers for you? Who to contact?
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 26 October 2017 14: 49
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                    Quote: Eight
                    What does it mean at the wrong place?

                    Well then: you only complained about the oddities with memory. This is definitely not for me.
                    Good luck! lol
                    1. Eight
                      Eight 26 October 2017 15: 51
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                      Well, if you call the presence of memory a strangeness, then the meaning of your answers becomes clear. And all the best to you.
        3. 27091965
          27091965 26 October 2017 10: 46
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          Quote: Olgovich
          So why didn’t you continue? After 1907- NO strikes.
          But there is a huge construction and further development of the plant.


          Let me answer your question.
          In 1907, Russia began to receive a loan issued in France in 1906, in the amount of 1,2 billion francs. The Council of Ministers in May 1907 allowed the Minister of the Sea to make an annual appropriation of RUB 31 million in the budget estimates. for the construction of new ships, their artillery and mine weapons. The decision of the Council of Ministers was approved by the king on June 9, 1907.
          There was work, people began to receive a salary. That is the whole answer.
      2. Gopnik
        Gopnik 26 October 2017 11: 32
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        Quote: Eight
        Are you really crazy about fat?


        In general, yes. Averchenko has a good story on this subject, “Features from the Life of Worker Pantelei Grymzin”
  2. Amurets
    Amurets 26 October 2017 05: 59
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    The delay in construction was caused primarily by the untimely delivery of technical documentation and numerous alterations carried out during construction.

    Not only the Naval plant suffered from this, all the shipyards of Russia suffered from this, as the MTK was not particularly in a hurry to make decisions. formidable dreadnought, the Ministry of the Sea decided after them to build huge counter-carriers and for this purpose has been intensively developing projects for these future ships. of these, the most profitable elements, he compiled a new task for future projects that will again be developed without hope for any success by the long-suffering Russian factories.When all this “designing of new ships” ends and finally the construction of the new fleet begins, no one in the Ministry and even the most naval minister is completely unknown. "{35}." And you are talking about the deadlines: “Finally, on April 2, 1910, the project of the Metal Plant was approved by the Minister of the Sea, S. A. Voevodsky, but made a postscript:“ I find it possible to make the order not earlier than the financial program of shipbuilding is approved by legislative institutions and, in addition, adhering to the deadlines indicated in the program "{38}." The quotes are taken from the book of Flowers, Stepanov. The destroyer "Novik". And what kind of book on the history of the construction of RIF ships you can’t take, the same thing everywhere: red tape with decision-making, petty savings and losses in large, bureaucratic delays. First of all, factories suffered from this, then ships. And this applied to all plants, both Baltic and Black Sea. The Naval plant was no exception.
  3. XII Legion
    XII Legion 26 October 2017 06: 45
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    Interesting analysis
    Thank you
  4. San Sanych
    San Sanych 26 October 2017 10: 18
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    We look forward to continuing, Denis Brig's articles are always interesting
  5. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 26 October 2017 13: 52
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    Had once related to Nikolaev
    Now shipbuilding there came kaput
    Thank you for the article good
  6. 27091965
    27091965 26 October 2017 15: 09
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Refute the secret report of the Central Statistical Bureau of the USSR to Bulganin of 1955, where the SECRET information is given that only 40 years later, as a result of inhuman efforts and the same victims, they caught up with 1913. It was not for nothing that they secretly!


    You have a strange link to this report. It provides data for different years. Maybe try to compare the data for 1913 and 1928, then this report will not be in your favor. Although consumption for all years in some ways increased, in some cases decreased.
    Moreover, in this comparison of 1913 and 1950, it is worth considering the size of the Army.
    1. Gopnik
      Gopnik 26 October 2017 16: 19
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      Quote: 27091965i
      1928 year


      Yes, then the people even ate a small fat thanks to the NEP. But quickly these excesses of the petty-bourgeois covered up.

      Quote: 27091965i
      Moreover, in this comparison of 1913 and 1950, it is worth considering the size of the Army.


      What for?
      1. 27091965
        27091965 26 October 2017 16: 43
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        Quote: Gopnik
        Yes, then the people even ate a small fat thanks to the NEP. But quickly these excesses of the petty-bourgeois covered up.




        Compare what is the tragedy?

        What for?


        By the beginning of the First World War, the Russian army totaled 1 million 423 thousand people, by 1954 the number of the USSR Armed Forces reached 5 763 000 people;
        They also want to eat, and do not participate in production.
        You can compare the population.
        1. Gopnik
          Gopnik 26 October 2017 16: 55
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          Quote: 27091965i
          Compare what is the tragedy?


          The fact that in the state of victorious workers and peasants these same workers and peasants ate worse than under damned tsarism. Even according to Soviet statistics, and if we take, for example, modern estimates of the level of 1913, then everything is completely depressing.

          Quote: 27091965i
          They also want to eat, and do not participate in production.


          Well, why not keep so many parasites, themselves evil Pinocchio. Khrushchev did the right thing to cut these loafers. And immediately the standard of living of working people increased.
          1. 27091965
            27091965 26 October 2017 17: 25
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            Quote: Gopnik
            The fact that in the state of victorious workers and peasants these same workers and peasants ate worse than under damned tsarism.


            Do not forget that only five years have passed since the war. Moreover, the average statistics do not reflect the true state of affairs, whether they are royal or Soviet.
            1. Gopnik
              Gopnik 26 October 2017 17: 53
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              Five years after what war was in 1937 or 1940 ???
              The average just give an average picture.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 27 October 2017 14: 19
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            Quote: Gopnik
            and if we take, for example, modern estimates of the level of 1913, then everything is completely depressing.

            And if we take the methods of calculating Soviet statistics when the field harvest was considered. but not really bread that reached the people (loss to warehouses-30%, during storage, etc.) or meat, which was considered with the weight of entrails, then ......
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 27 October 2017 14: 13
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      Quote: 27091965i
      You have a strange link to this report. It provides data for different years. Maybe try to compare the data for 1913 and 1928, then this report will not be in your favor.

      And in 1928, in many ways, in mine, and in 1928 he extended the damned capitalism-permitted by the NEP.
      But socialism pulled the failure of 1937, 1940-up to the 1950s.
      Quote: 27091965i
      Although consumption for all years in some ways increased, in some cases decreased.

      Potatoes increased, but there are no normal products and there is no constant. And this is very harmful (see Report)