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"Naftogaz" spoke about losses in case of termination of gas transit

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Losses of Ukraine in case of refusal of the Russian Federation from the Ukrainian gas transmission route will be huge. If Gazprom finally abandons the gas route through Ukraine, Kiev will lose about 3 billion dollars a year, acknowledged the head of Naftogaz, Andrei Kobolev.
This is the amount the country received this year from the transit of Russian fuel.


Losing 3 billions of dollars a year will have extremely negative consequences for all of us.
- said Kobolev on Tuesday during a speech at a conference where problems of the gas transportation industry in Ukraine were discussed

"Naftogaz" spoke about losses in case of termination of gas transit


According to Kobolev, it will not be easy to extend the agreement, since Gazprom, according to the head of Naftogaz, is not set to continue cooperation with Ukraine. Kobolev stressed that even attracting foreign capital to the gas transmission system of Ukraine — in order to solve the problems of obsolescence and damage to the gas transmission network for foreign money — may not be enough to save gas transit from Russia. However, as the head of Naftogaz noted, this may allow at least some supplies through Ukrainian networks to be maintained.

In "Naftogaz" noted that during the year should make the first thread of the "Turkish Stream", there is also the issue of building a second line. According to Kobolev, "each new string of such flows takes a large amount of funds from the Ukrainian GDP, about half a billion dollars."

Kobolev believes that Kiev has a chance to save gas transit after 2019, if its system becomes transparent, so that European consumers are interested in Ukraine as a reliable partner. Earlier, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko proposed to change the organization of the transit of Russian gas after 2019. In his opinion, Europeans should not take fuel on the western border of Ukraine, but on the east. In Moscow, this option was called inexpedient.
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  1. the most important
    the most important 24 October 2017 17: 09
    30
    These are their problems ... In Russia, nobody cares!
    1. just exp
      just exp 24 October 2017 17: 12
      +4
      Well, we will have problems from this too, even more zarabitchians will trample towards us.
      1. Monos
        Monos 24 October 2017 17: 16
        22
        each new thread of such flows takes away a large amount of funds from Ukrainian GDPapproximately half a billion dollars

        "Rat good people! Rob!" Transit is not a service for them, transit is their property!
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 24 October 2017 19: 22
          10
          Everything is cool ...
          it will not be easy to extend the agreement, as Gazprom, according to the head of Naftogaz, is not inclined to continue cooperation with Ukraine.

          What then is the gas agreement ??? Maybe you don’t have to fall down — you don’t shine anything. Put the "pipe" ... push in the center of Kiev, there will be a monument ... about Russian aggression. yes
          1. Monos
            Monos 24 October 2017 19: 41
            13
            Good evening, Alexander. hi laughing
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 24 October 2017 17: 17
        +3
        Quote: just explo
        well, we will have problems from this too
        - There would be more such "problems".
      3. 210ox
        210ox 24 October 2017 17: 20
        +2
        I can imagine how they will whine all the next year. And what? Maybe they will whine. A good guarantor ..
        Quote: just EXPL
        Well, we will have problems from this too, even more zarabitchians will trample towards us.
        1. Department-M
          Department-M 24 October 2017 17: 31
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          I can imagine how they will whine the next year. But what? Maybe they will whine. A good guarantor

          Also, I think it will be so .. And it would be necessary to punish, so that they will be remembered for several generations!
          1. jjj
            jjj 24 October 2017 17: 42
            13



            And remember recently at the Valdai Club Vladimir Vladimirovich’s tie was exponentially purple. And I support the president
            1. Department-M
              Department-M 24 October 2017 18: 24
              +8
              Quote: jjj
              And remember recently at the Valdai Club Vladimir Vladimirovich’s tie was exponentially purple. And I support the president

              But it’s true, subtle trolling, in this Putin’s mastiff heh heh ..
              But seriously, then everything is briefly on the case .. A man works, although it is very difficult for him to work. hi
          2. Gray brother
            Gray brother 24 October 2017 19: 19
            +6
            Quote: Department-M
            Also, I think it will be so .. And it would be necessary to punish, so that they will be remembered for several generations!

            I do not think so. There, the banderlogs on the transit pipe jump and because of this the risks are too great - it’s easier not to contact them at all, otherwise they will start twisting the faucets or break something.
            1. Department-M
              Department-M 24 October 2017 19: 34
              0
              Quote: Gray Brother
              I do not think so. There, the banderlogs on the transit pipe jump and because of this the risks are too great - it’s easier not to contact them at all, otherwise they will start twisting the faucets or break something.

              Around Ukraine, everything is practically going on, as well as around the Baltic States .. The main thing is not to go too far in this matter ... Nevertheless, we all have brothers and many relatives there, this also needs to be taken into account! hi
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 24 October 2017 19: 48
                +1
                Quote: Department-M
                Nevertheless, we all have brothers and many relatives there, this also needs to be taken into account!

                My relatives are already in Russia - they moved with Crimea)))
                Well, whoever has remained and is not stupefied so far is sorry for those of course, but there is nothing to be done.
                By the way, they will have gas storages, they can be used for their intended purpose - no one else has such objects in Eastern Europe. Unless of course they can maintain their GTS in decent condition, otherwise they say she already asks for porridge.

                Although, it may be that the storage is already sold.
                The Ukrainian GTS will no longer belong to the state, but to one or more private companies, and ultimately will go to the investors and banks of Rothschild, which will give Americans the opportunity to strengthen their position in the struggle for the European energy market.
                The Italian Rothschild group - Rothschild SpA - won a tender related to the privatization of the Ukrainian gas transmission system. It is the Americans who will determine "a qualified partner in managing the gas transportation system. Even before the tender results are announced, the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine accused NAC of violating the law and unauthorized appropriation of the functions of the Cabinet of Ministers." Rothschild SpA announced the winner of the auction for the purchase of investment banking services related to ensuring separation of natural gas transportation activities (“unbundling”), including attracting a qualified partner to manage the gas transportation system of Ukraine, ”Naftogaz said.

                RIA Novosti Ukraine: http://rian.com.ua/analytics/20171023/1028794181.
                html?
                1. wasjasibirjac
                  wasjasibirjac 25 October 2017 11: 21
                  0
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  The Ukrainian GTS will no longer belong to the state, but to one or more private companies, and ultimately will go to the investors and banks of Rothschild, which will give Americans the opportunity to strengthen their position in the struggle for the European energy market.

                  the Rothschilds are not idiots. otherwise they could not have built a banking empire. Why do they need tubular scrap metal if there is no gas in it? or do the ho.h.ly hope to ramp up the santsev gas? negative
              2. papas-57
                papas-57 24 October 2017 20: 31
                11
                `` All the same, we have brothers and many relatives there, this also needs to be taken into account! '' Maybe enough about the brothers. They first refused kinship. We have enough brothers in Russia too. Yesterday I found out that in Venezuela we have $ 1 billion brothers. After 1991, Russia had brothers around the world in the amount of $ 140 billion. At today's exchange rate, it is 8,4 trillion rubles, or half a budget. Maybe it's time to think about yourself.
        2. Stas Snezhin
          Stas Snezhin 24 October 2017 19: 32
          +2
          Or maybe they are from this infrastructure, together with the Baltic states, Poland, Georgia, etc. stir up sprat wire ...
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 25 October 2017 11: 22
            +2
            Quote: Stas Snezhin
            stir up sprat wire ...

            sprats in the pipes? original ....
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 25 October 2017 00: 04
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          I can imagine how they will whine all the next year. And what? Maybe they will whine. A good guarantor ..
          Quote: just EXPL
          Well, we will have problems from this too, even more zarabitchians will trample towards us.

          Good, not good ........ but all the same, we will pump gas into the pipe because Urkain will pay for any amount of gas necessary to maintain the hydraulic system in working condition. And in terms of transit, then they probably can do something only if the EU waits for the completion of the construction of the North. flow-2 and rests against the horn in its filling at full capacity, demanding the preservation of transit through the Urkain gas transportation system because they understand that their financial costs for the maintenance of the "New Europeans" will increase by an amount equal to their transit losses. This situation promises us losses, and therefore something will have to be pumped through urkain, albeit in much smaller volumes.
        4. Serg koma
          Serg koma 25 October 2017 12: 37
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          I can imagine how they will whine all the next year. And what? Maybe they will whine. A good guarantor ..
          Quote: just EXPL
          well, we will have problems from this, even more zarabitchians will trample to us

          THEY "wail out" -
          The Ministry of Justice of Ukraine also opened enforcement proceedings to recover about 400 billion rubles from a Russian gas company. (approximately $ 7 billion) in the framework of the antitrust case, which in Kiev brought to Gazprom accused of abuse of dominant position in the gas transit market in the period from 2009 to 2015 year.
          - "The cat scratches on its ridge"
      4. 79807420129
        79807420129 24 October 2017 18: 55
        12
        Quote: just explo
        even more zarabitschits will trample to us

        They have a holy visa, let the Caucasians ride asses to wipe. wink
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 24 October 2017 17: 15
      +1
      gas is only part of the global processes of change in the world and not the main one.
      "they drive the driven horses, don't they?"

      antivirus 3 Today, 16:51 | Cry from the heart. Am I coming to you, Ukraine?
      in 14 years he counted -3-5 years and everything will be restored,
      in 16 g I thought - in 30-40 years it will be possible to forget through joint efforts this time,
      now-- not to return the old one, it was deliberately destroyed 25 years and the irreversible process will go on until the creation of new states in eastern Europe (the beginning was laid in the process of trade-concessions for the "Big Agreement" of 1997).
      Scythians - Pechenegs - Polovtsy and others will be washed away by waves OTHER PEOPLES (OR WITH THE DR MENTALITY) WILL LIVE IN THE BLACK SEA.
      this mentality is also forged, including the rejection of Ukraine-- with the replacement of the "Horde" great-power and "clean eurodome"
      ASIA ON THE RISE.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 24 October 2017 17: 33
      +8
      Quote: the most important
      In Russia, nobody cares!

      I care about. few, more problems are needed, much more. the more there will be, the earlier he will decorate the lamp post in kuev with his carcass
    4. Vend
      Vend 24 October 2017 17: 45
      +5
      Quote: the most important
      These are their problems ... In Russia, nobody cares!

      Moreover, this is their independent decision to break with Russia
  2. Dezinto
    Dezinto 24 October 2017 17: 11
    +5
    Oh my god what language they have! Some kind of mockery of the Russian.
    1. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 24 October 2017 18: 00
      +1
      This is not a language, it is an artificial dialect based on the principle of the contrary. The opposite in the literal and figurative sense.
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 24 October 2017 18: 01
      +2
      The outskirts of Russia are distorting their language in order to say that it has nothing to do with their homeland, and that they were born of themselves. Some transgender people.
    3. Orionvit
      Orionvit 25 October 2017 08: 57
      +2
      The dialect was normal until 1991. Clear, though peculiar. Remember Pasyuk from “The meeting place cannot be changed”, during the course of the film there is absolutely no feeling that he speaks “another language”, just a colorful talk. Now you’ll understand Ukrainian horseradish, A mixture of the Galician dialect and Polish. Especially intonation.
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 October 2017 17: 13
    21
    Losing 3 billions of dollars a year will have extremely negative consequences for all of us.
    Now I’ll have dinner. And I will worry about Ukrainian gas transit to Europe until I fall asleep laughing
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 24 October 2017 17: 16
      12
      And I will worry about Ukrainian gas transit to Europe until I fall asleep


      yes, yes, and I will smoke cigarettes one after another and look thoughtfully at the sky, and worry - how are they there now, ..... miserable things ....... lol
      1. himRa
        himRa 24 October 2017 17: 20
        +4
        Observer2014

        Dezinto

        I join, I drink tea and worry ...
        No money but you hold on!
        And ..... good mood!
      2. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 25 October 2017 03: 48
        +3
        In the morning I smear a sandwich -
        Immediately the thought: what about the people (hobsly)?
        And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
        And compote does not pour into your mouth!
  4. Sonet
    Sonet 24 October 2017 17: 33
    13
    The meaning of gas transit through Ukraine after entering all the lines of gas pipelines by sea is completely lost. And it’s clear to a hedgehog that it is cheaper to deliver gas by sea.
    Let them jump further to their Europe.
    1. himRa
      himRa 24 October 2017 17: 44
      +2
      Quote: Sonet
      . And it’s clear to the hedgehog that it is cheaper to deliver gas by sea.

      Why is that !? The cheapest way is the pipeline!
      LNG will always be more expensive and technologically more expensive!
      In reality, we can provide gas only to us ... Americans and countries of the East cannot even cover 30% ... with all our wishes ...
      1. Berg berg
        Berg berg 24 October 2017 18: 00
        +1
        And through the sea we deliver gas, which is in the bubbles !? Naturally through the pipe!
        1. himRa
          himRa 24 October 2017 18: 05
          +3
          Quote: Berg Berg
          And through the sea we deliver gas, which is in the bubbles !? Naturally through the pipe!

          Perhaps you need to more accurately express your thoughts !?
          Not by the sea, but by the bottom of the sea!
          And ... LNG is not supplied through pipes but carried in bubbles laughing heat insulated
          1. papas-57
            papas-57 24 October 2017 20: 35
            +1
            `` Probably need to more accurately express thoughts. '' Or maybe you need to read more carefully?
            1. himRa
              himRa 24 October 2017 21: 37
              +1
              Dear, carefully reading I can not agree ...doesn't make sense the pipeline that was designed and created in the USSR!
              At the bottom of the sea is an expensive and forced response ... to a change in the political situation ..Ukraine. hi
              1. papas-57
                papas-57 24 October 2017 21: 45
                +1
                And for some reason I’m stupid, I immediately realized about the gas pipeline on the bottom of the sea. And you stuck LNG, nobody said anything about it.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 25 October 2017 09: 02
      0
      Quote: Sonet
      And it’s clear to the hedgehog that it is cheaper to supply gas by the sea.

      Of course it is clear that the sea does not charge for transit. laughing Although, maybe some kind of king of the sea, with Ukrainian roots, will tell me to pay. Or svidomye say, they say, we dug up the Black Sea, everything that is laid along the bottom, ours. laughing
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 24 October 2017 17: 38
    15
    I know what Ukraine needs to do - dig the Black Sea back, dig a new Ukrainian sea straight to Poland, dig the Baltic Sea with this land ... Bottom line - Russia will empty the pipe along the bottom of the Ukrainian sea, and the 6th US fleet through the Ukrainian sea will gain access to the coast of Belarus fellow wassat
    1. himRa
      himRa 24 October 2017 17: 48
      +3
      laughing wassat
      But they tried to get to Tuzla Island on which the bridge is now going to fall asleep !!!! 2005:
      The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said it would not give Russia the island of Kos Tuzla, which became a disputed territory in determining the Ukrainian-Russian border. Ukraine is unhappy that the Russian Foreign Ministry is questioning Tuzla’s affiliation. "Statements that the island’s legal status remains uncertain can be regarded as attempts to make territorial claims against Ukraine," says the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry
      1. axiles100682
        axiles100682 24 October 2017 17: 53
        0
        To promise does not mean to marry. lol
    2. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 18: 33
      +7
      I know what Ukraine needs to do - dig the Black Sea back, dig a new Ukrainian sea straight to Poland, dig the Baltic Sea with this land ... Bottom line - Russia will empty the pipe along the bottom of the Ukrainian sea, and the 6th US fleet through the Ukrainian sea will gain access to the coast of Belarus

      Oh ... Normal move! If an aircraft carrier gets here, it’s how much metal ... So you have to dig, do they slow down the fuli?!?!? ... laughing
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 24 October 2017 19: 22
        +2
        Quote: KOT BYUN
        If an aircraft carrier gets here, it’s how much metal ...

        90000t. perfect regret !!!! fellow For 20 current cops. per kilo total = 18000000 new denominated rubles! good Divide by 2, total 9000000 million American Tugriks !!! fellow 9000000, Karl! winked And how many cables are there! And copper is even more expensive fellow
        There is enough space in Pripyat, it remains to agree with the Ukrainians (if anything, deepen the channel)
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 19: 30
          +7
          Not .. Well, here you are in vain about the cable ... I did not think about copper !!!! So I’ll not lose my sleep for long ... But well, I’ll survive, though I will be sad, but God forbid our homeless people to find out about it! They’ll arrange a demonstration! laughing
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 24 October 2017 19: 36
            +2
            We will show the Americans the language and call them ugly words. winked They will strengthen the 6th fleet with a second aircraft carrier what One to us, one to homeless people repeat In fairness request
            There is a direct stretch of kilometers 5 near Mozyr - exactly, if only, all eleven potential iron donors will become (and two will not swim) and there will still be a place what wink drinks
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 19: 41
              +6
              Fine. Waiting for guests yes With bread and salt, bits and autogen. laughing
              1. ser6119
                ser6119 25 October 2017 22: 25
                0
                But why bread = salt? winked
    3. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 25 October 2017 13: 21
      0
      I hope they don’t find out about this proposal from Kiev, otherwise it becomes scary.
  6. axiles100682
    axiles100682 24 October 2017 17: 56
    +3
    While all sorts of Gribyskites and Yaytsenyuhi are trying to fence themselves off from Russia, Russia is fencing off its economy from all these Russophobes. good
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 24 October 2017 18: 26
      +3
      Hehehehe ... and Ukraine had an example of proud pro ... Balts who suddenly found that they had to pay for racial cleanliness and "non-citizens" by stopping transit and money for it.
      I still remember the ridicule from the hill in the late 90s - they say that these drunken wry-handed Russian breeders will not succeed with the ports: only money will be stolen, but there will be no Ust-Luga or Vysotsk, and in general - where are they from Ventspils will disappear, there is infrastructure. established connections and all that. And then suddenly it turned out that the Russian ports were working, and transit through troebals in the 2000s began to decline and decrease ...
      Here's what happened to Ventspils:
      At the end of 2001, by a decision of the Government Commission of the Russian Federation, in order to ensure diversification of oil supplies and the economic development of Russian ports, all oil volumes that went through Ventspils Nafta Terminals were reoriented to the oil loading port in Primorsk, which is the terminal point of the Baltic pipeline system.

      It is strange that the Baltic states did not require Russia to restore transit and pay a fine for the use of Russian ports instead of the Baltic. Somehow they snapped this moment. laughing
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 19: 31
        +7
        It is strange that the Baltic states did not require Russia to restore transit and pay a fine for the use of Russian ports instead of the Baltic. Somehow they snapped this moment.

        Now they will remember. They are just VERY slow. Although hot laughing
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 26 October 2017 06: 07
          +5
          A few years later, they tried to convince the Russian Federation to resume transit. But the pipe died, the Russians said that if you put it in order, then maybe the Russian Federation will think about using it. But where can I get a lard for repair under "maybe." Since then, Ventspils’s measures, which considered “that the Russian Federation is not going anywhere,” and that it is possible to raise tariffs, have revised their views very well and have become very friendly about Russia. But the pipe has already died, and now the rest of the transit is leaving, died so died ... request
  7. ded100
    ded100 24 October 2017 17: 57
    +2
    Even before that, they have already lost so much that it’s no longer scary to ride on until they stop! wassat
  8. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 18: 22
    11
    Losing 3 billions of dollars a year will have extremely negative consequences for all of us.

    Nonsense guys! But you are independent, in lace panties and in the EU.
    Enjoy something ....
  9. Egorovich
    Egorovich 24 October 2017 18: 57
    +5
    You can only be glad for Ukroshtat, soon they will only pull themselves out of shit, and not at the expense of Russia.
  10. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 24 October 2017 19: 02
    0
    Pitukhan Pitushenko RoshenWaltzman will cut the pipe to metal. And no one will know where this metal will go :-)
  11. izya top
    izya top 24 October 2017 19: 12
    +7
    and why are skipping rides? let them pump gas from inexhaustible Slovak deposits and drive Russia to the hated R (Ashka) request the whole world has even notified psak about this option yes
  12. LPD17
    LPD17 24 October 2017 19: 20
    0
    .. of course I would very much like Svidomo to do without gas from cotton ....
    can buy in the USA))) and the same oil !!!
    But the profit ...))))
    ... and decide not to the Kremlin .... for sure)))
  13. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 24 October 2017 19: 28
    +1
    And I remember, a couple of years ago in Ukraine, some politicians urged to blow up the pipeline,
    since "at their expense Russia is enriched."
    And now, it seems he himself will fall apart slowly ..
  14. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 25 October 2017 03: 52
    0
    It turns out that not everyone blew the roof !!! - began to count money. Bourgeois loan just does not give.
  15. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 25 October 2017 09: 03
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: 210ox
    I can imagine how they will whine all the next year. And what? Maybe they will whine. A good guarantor ..
    Quote: just EXPL
    Well, we will have problems from this too, even more zarabitchians will trample towards us.

    Good, not good ........ but all the same, we will pump gas into the pipe because Urkain will pay for any amount of gas necessary to maintain the hydraulic system in working condition. And in terms of transit, then they probably can do something only if the EU waits for the completion of the construction of the North. flow-2 and rests against the horn in its filling at full capacity, demanding the preservation of transit through the Urkain gas transportation system because they understand that their financial costs for the maintenance of the "New Europeans" will increase by an amount equal to their transit losses. This situation promises us losses, and therefore something will have to be pumped through urkain, albeit in much smaller volumes.

    Yes, let them demand it, just the "demander" will take all the risks upon himself. And as they say "now you are messing around"
  16. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 25 October 2017 16: 02
    +1
    Well, what do you want I do not understand Logic where? call the Russian Federation an aggressor, write out fines And at the same time you are surprised that Gazprom decided to refuse your services as a transit country? This is the Lord’s market of dill and everyone is looking for a profit as best as you can and you are not reliable partners, therefore you should not even deal with it.