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Rosoboronexport: Russian-Indian FGFA fighter is being created on time

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Russia and India are continuing a joint project to build the FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) 5 aircraft, the press service of Rosoboronexport reported.


Earlier, the publication of Defense News, citing the report of the Indian Air Force Command, reported that the aircraft, created on the basis of the fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57, does not have a sufficient level of secrecy. In addition, according to the military, it does not imply a modular concept of the engine, which leads to higher maintenance costs of the fighter. Therefore, they offered the authorities of the country to withdraw from the joint Russian-Indian program FGFA.

Rosoboronexport: Russian-Indian FGFA fighter is being created on time


At present, the Russian-Indian intergovernmental agreement is in force, there are obligations under which the joint project for the creation of a fifth generation aircraft is being implemented by the parties in accordance with agreed stages and deadlines
- said the company.

The FGFA project agreement was signed in 2007. In early May, a source in the Indian Ministry of Defense announced to the Indian agency PTI that a contract for the development of a detailed design of the new fighter will be signed in the second half of 2017.

In the spring, Russian officials declared that the Russian Federation was fully fulfilling its obligations under the project and was awaiting a decision by the Indian side.

The fifth generation fighter (FGFA) is being developed on the basis of the Russian Su-57 in accordance with the technical requirements imposed by the Indian side. It is assumed that the launch aircraft of this aircraft will be the Indian Air Force, and in the future it will be supplied to third countries, reports TASS
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 24 October 2017 14: 21 New
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    Is the photo a real prototype for India in this project? or installation what
    1. esaul
      esaul 24 October 2017 14: 23 New
      +3
      The past surge - the statement of the Indian Ministry of Defense that the project is being closed - most likely, there was an attempt to bargain for themselves extra nishtyaks. Hindus love this business. They were buzzing with tanks for the sake of obtaining technologies; now, now, they desired aviation technology. Just as Erdogan tried to blackmail about C-400. Silent. As they say - the market is big. Look around, look for cheaper ...
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 24 October 2017 14: 38 New
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        Hindus say - There are 2 real classes for men, trading and fighting.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 24 October 2017 14: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: MoJloT
          Hindus say - There are 2 real classes for men, trading and fighting.

          Can trade and trade again?
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 25 October 2017 04: 39 New
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          Hindus belay ,fight belay ?
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 October 2017 09: 43 New
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            What confuses you? By the way, they are very formidable fighters. They cut fiercely with Pakistan and won. American Air Force fights ass in training battles
            1. Skifotavr
              Skifotavr 25 October 2017 20: 07 New
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              American Air Force fights ass in training battles

              Thanks to the Su-30MKI, by the way, which their media periodically obsseiruyut. And indeed, partners from them are like gypsies.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 October 2017 21: 22 New
                +1
                Quote: Skifotavr
                Thanks to the Su-30MKI by the way

                Without laying between the seat and the helm, the plane is a mountain of iron. The Americans are VERY serious air fighters, you can beat them, but for this you need to be a pro.
                Quote: Skifotavr
                which their media periodically obsseiruyut.

                These are the features of Indian business dealing.
                Quote: Skifotavr
                And indeed, partners from them are like gypsies.

                Come on! You show me a country that at least half of what India bought from us and paid for overpowered :))))
                Sevmash in many respects taxied at Vikramaditye in due time, tankers on Indian contracts, the MiG-29K decked at all appeared only thanks to the Indian order, Su kept them ... Excellent partners. good And what about the cockroaches in my head ... and who does not have them? :) laughing
      2. 210ox
        210ox 24 October 2017 14: 42 New
        +1
        And what? A refutation of the refutation will follow in a week.?
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 24 October 2017 14: 26 New
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      picture of course)))
      1. san4es
        san4es 24 October 2017 14: 36 New
        +3
        picture of course)))


    3. stas
      stas 24 October 2017 14: 32 New
      +1
      This entire article is fake stuffing.
      The author now giggles vilely and is waiting for serious discussion. Aftoru - figs.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 24 October 2017 14: 39 New
        +4
        Well, of course. if the article denounced the bloody gebnya and the backwardness of Russian developments - your would be a bad comment would be the first. Exposing the government and our trade policies

        the essence of the article is that moans can fly on the Internet, they can quote all sorts of sources, backward Russian technologies, but ...

        At present, the Russian-Indian intergovernmental agreement is in force, there are obligations under which the joint project for the creation of a fifth generation aircraft is being implemented by the parties in accordance with agreed stages and deadlines


        and the rest is all vanity

        and if the Indians jump off - and yes, no. We have a plane - but they don’t. China, Pakistan - who knows who will buy them, if they save up.

        1. ZVO
          ZVO 24 October 2017 15: 19 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov

          and if the Indians jump off - and yes, no. We have a plane - but they don’t. China, Pakistan - who knows who will buy them, if they save up.


          Hindus have already paid a lot of money. and surely in the terms of the contract penalties are prescribed.
          Secondly.
          The purchase price of 1 unit of FGFA - Indians together with Russia estimated at 220 million dollars.
          Which is 2 times more expensive than the F-35.

          So jumping off, they will receive huge money from Russia, and can buy twice as many planes ...
          And the Americans will sell them to them ...
          https://vpk.name/news/149020_cena_fgfa_vdvoe_bols
          he_su30mki.html
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 24 October 2017 16: 01 New
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            The purchase price of 1 unit of FGFA - Indians together with Russia estimated at 220 million dollars.


            wassat

            Hindus have already paid a lot of money. and surely in the terms of the contract penalties are prescribed.


            I think our lawyers are no worse than the Indians. Well, the cost of the aircraft voiced - take doubts. Of course, they could have voiced this - but xs xs 4 aircraft per billion - this is some kind of fantasy. Could 500 voice too. What's the little thing

            reports AMCA source India's first indigenous stealth fighter.


            wassat
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 25 October 2017 01: 38 New
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            Quote: ZVO
            Hindus have already paid a lot of money. and surely in the terms of the contract penalties are prescribed.
            So jumping off, they will receive huge money from Russia, and can buy twice as many planes ...

            If Russia fulfills its part of the contract, and the Hindus begin to act up, then with what hangover Russia should pay them. Who jumps, he pays.
  2. Kurare
    Kurare 24 October 2017 14: 24 New
    +6
    The response of Rosoboronexport means the following: "the money has been spent and cannot be returned. We are all right, sort out your own swamp."
    1. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 24 October 2017 15: 00 New
      +3
      good good good
      money spent and non-refundable
      hi
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 24 October 2017 14: 25 New
    +3
    Previously, the Defense News publication, citing a report from the Indian Air Force command, reported that the aircraft created on the basis of the fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57 does not have a sufficient level of stealth.


    And who is behind this message? ... who started an information game (disu) that everything is bad with this plane what ... for the ear and the sun of his beloved ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 24 October 2017 15: 03 New
      +2
      this is normal. unfair competition. this is done purposefully. and they do it everywhere - where major contracts and various performers are involved.

      it’s just that it should be put in the budget, so to speak. expect. and to do so - so that those with whom a contract is concluded also expected this and did not pay special attention to it.

      Well, if the guano crawls out - so there are negotiations for this. And a discussion. But here we will lose maximum money.

      But we have a pipe, and there are still pipes under construction. So break through. We won’t be left without money - and the necessary technologies will be given to us by the SVR rather than the Indians.
  4. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 24 October 2017 14: 33 New
    +3
    Hindus are traded, as always.
  5. Ustin
    Ustin 24 October 2017 14: 47 New
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    Quote: esaul
    The past surge - the statement of the Indian Ministry of Defense that the project is being closed - most likely, there was an attempt to bargain for themselves extra nishtyaks. Hindus love this business. They were buzzing with tanks for the sake of obtaining technologies; now, now, they desired aviation technology. Just as Erdogan tried to blackmail about C-400. Silent. As they say - the market is big. Look around, look for cheaper ...

    This is a standard move for India, on the one hand, an attempt to “squeeze”, and on the other hand, to increase the share of its participation in the project. Yes, I’d like to add my own. So everything is normal ...
    1. chidoryan
      chidoryan 24 October 2017 14: 50 New
      +2
      That is, there are no problems with the project and the Indians are just dumb? Or maybe everything is not so rosy, because if we had the opportunity to quickly and efficiently rivet a 5th generation fighter, would we already have our Su-57 in service? do not all this news tell us that we are skidding somewhere?
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 24 October 2017 15: 39 New
    +3
    It is doubtful that the Indians may refuse to participate in the project ... first of all, the training of national personnel!
    Do they have a lot of specialists capable of creating advanced aircraft ??
    You can certainly dream that someone will sell the technology and train up national staff !!! very doubtful.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 24 October 2017 18: 07 New
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    Well, right, all that the Indians wanted, they have already received. Now you can terminate the deal. It reminds the fate of the Yak-130.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 24 October 2017 18: 43 New
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    Naturally, the project strategically provides for the Russian main components, because the maharajas are so wandering, they themselves can’t do anything at all, and buying a ready-made toad presses, and then, for example, their tank Arjun doesn’t even get into the dust of our T-72 ...
  9. Santa Claus
    Santa Claus 25 October 2017 05: 41 New
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    india is a country of sewer contrasts but fighters and new technologies are to be handed to them. A large half of the country is in poverty.
  10. complete zero
    complete zero 25 October 2017 11: 40 New
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    Quote: igorka357
    Hindus belay ,fight belay ?

    and what really surprises you ... remember the story ... Sasha of Macedon, what an advanced warrior was ... but however in India, he screwed up (in full) .. what do we actually know about India? ... nothing
  11. The poor man
    The poor man 25 October 2017 14: 59 New
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    Well, they do not want and do not. Why does Russia need this? Based on this aircraft, we need to create an export version and sell it to the neighbors of India. If India comes to its senses and expresses a desire to continue the project, then set it at such a price that it would be more than possible to recoup all the costs.