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Lithuanian Finance Minister: Lithuanians used corruption to fight Soviet power

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The Minister of Finance of Lithuania made a statement that surprised even supporters of the current government. According to the head of the Ministry of Finance of the Baltic Republic (his name is Vilyus Shapok), corruption in Lithuania "was inherited from the Soviet period." Shapoka claims that while Lithuania was part of the Soviet Union, “corruption became one of the Lithuanian tools to counter the occupation”.


Even the Maidan authorities in Ukraine can safely envy such a “formula” that actually justifies the existence of fraud, bribe taking and embezzlement.

Lithuanian Finance Minister: Lithuanians used corruption to fight Soviet power


Informational portal BaltNews quotes Vilyus Shapoki:
In those years, corruption (in Lithuania) was a tool to resist the occupation of the Soviet government. For example, they dragged something from collective farms.

This statement was made by the Minister of Finance of Lithuania against the background of the published IMF report on the level of the shadow economy in the EU countries. This report puts Lithuania on one of the leading positions in shadow turnover in the EU financial sector. The “shadow zone” in modern Lithuania accounts for up to 26% of GDP! By 2020, the Lithuanian government plans to withdraw approximately 0,8 billion euros from the shadow.

As you can see, the “legacy of the Soviet occupation” in Lithuania is so heavy that they still steal it, and it is much more active than in the years of the USSR.

And after his statement Shapok becomes a clear contender for the Nobel Prize in Economics ...
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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 24 October 2017 13: 30 New
    11
    this is a set-off ... corruption is the weapon of the proletariat
    1. Logall
      Logall 24 October 2017 13: 35 New
      20
      Then they fought with the USSR, and now with the European Union ...
      Let's support comrades ...
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 24 October 2017 14: 33 New
        +4
        statement by Vilius Shapoki:
        In those years, corruption (in Lithuania) was an instrument of resistance to occupation, of Soviet power.
        Representatives of the modern market bourgeois Lithuania do not agree on the question - In those years, corruption (in Lithuania) was an instrument of supposedly "resistance to occupation" against the Soviet government by WHO? (For example, in the same Lithuania?) From the side of the trading mafia!
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        Organized crime, going hand in hand with corruption, has been and will be everywhere, in any state and in any system. ONLY SCALES DIFFERENT, although over the years there has been a tendency to increase the influence of the mafia in the world. Berlusconi is no longer surprised by anyone, whose direct connection with Cosa Nostra has been proven to the whole world, and from him water is like a goose. About thirty years ago, it still didn’t come to that.

        In the USSR, the influence of the mafia was minimal under Stalin. Thieves in law of that time led only criminals, not even trying to somehow influence the authorities, then this could not even be imagined. But Stalin died, time became less severe, and the USSR economy continued to develop. In an actively developing economy of a gigantic country, you can’t follow every penny. That's where it all started ...
        The pace of production grew every year, the Soviet government spared no resources to provide citizens with everything necessary after the hungry war years. The vast majority of urban residents have moved from communal apartments to separate apartments. People stopped wearing military uniforms and began to dress well. Nutrition has improved. Personal cars began to appear, including among ordinary people. And on such a scale it has become difficult to keep track of how much and what is being produced - if only the plan is being implemented. And the plan was not only fulfilled, but most often greatly exceeded, which everyone was only happy about. And in this overfulfillment, goods began to arise that were not taken into account by the state - from food to cars. They corresponded to GOST, were sold on the same grounds in the same stores, but the money for them was put into the pocket of the directors of plants and factories, sharing with the directors of the stores through which all this was realized. Thus began the trade mafia of the USSR.
        By the beginning of the seventies, it had already become the norm that the store director was a very wealthy person, although his official salary was not so huge. Ordinary people did not think why so, but those in the subject knew that any store manager accepts left-hand goods with machines. The guilds - those who produced this left-wing product - had even more. And, paradoxically, the existence of this mafia did not interfere with normal people. For the time being. Unless to the few honest store directors, whom the guild workers survived with all their might from these posts.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 24 October 2017 14: 57 New
          +7
          Quote: Tatiana
          And in this overfulfillment goods not accounted for by the state began to arise - from food to cars. They corresponded to GOST, were sold on the same grounds in the same stores, but the money for them was put into the pocket of the directors of plants and factories, sharing with the directors of the stores through which all this was realized. Thus began the trade mafia of the USSR

          Delirium negative
          The raw materials from which these goods arose were also "not taken into account by the state"?
          Or are they, these goods, directly from the air ... arose?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 24 October 2017 17: 23 New
            +1
            Golovan Jack
            Delirium negative
            The raw materials from which these goods arose were also "not taken into account by the state"?
            Or are they, these goods, directly from the air ... arose?
            And the raw material itself for the production of industrial goods, in your opinion, isn’t it a product too ?! Also a product! Namely, semi-finished goods!
            Well, where did you see a logical contradiction here, which, by the way, isn’t there?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 24 October 2017 22: 27 New
              +7
              Quote: Tatiana
              But do you think that the raw material itself obtained for the production of industrial goods isn’t it a product either ?! Also a product! Namely, semi-finished goods!

              Yeah request
              Quote: Tatiana
              goods began to arise that were not considered by the state - from food to cars

              Well, tell me in more detail, please - what kind of "extracted raw materials" from which you can make a car?
              You have three nonsense "in one bottle" in just one phrase:
              - Overfulfillment of the plan has nothing to do with the appearance of the “left” (“unaccounted for by the state”, yeah) product.
              - The "left" product was not sold "on the same grounds and in the same stores" (the very first audit or public control of some kind - and the store director sees the sky in the box. For a long time).
              - "so the trading mafia began to emerge ..." - the concept of "trading mafia" in itself is rather vague, therefore, you can speak on this topic almost anything that comes to mind. But still - the main "channel" of enrichment of the same store directors was the sale of scarce goods (remember what it is?) With a mark-up. Extra charge went into the pocket. That is - the usual speculation, in fact, and no romance to you.
              Here are three things you, umm ... have slightly distorted in just one phrase.
              Quote: Tatiana
              Well, where did you see a logical contradiction here, which, by the way, isn’t there?

              I repeat - your entire speech is one continuous "logical contradiction."
              However, here everyone is entertained in his own way. If you like it so much - have fun ... I dare not interfere hi
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              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 24 October 2017 23: 45 New
                0
                Golovan Jack
                I repeat - your entire speech is one continuous "logical contradiction."
                Well, of course, the speculative Soviet mafia, which needed a change in the socialist social system to the bourgeois one, is from your area of ​​"anti-market tales" against Gorbachev with its collapse of the USSR!

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      2. Same lech
        Same lech 24 October 2017 14: 39 New
        0
        Let's support comrades ...


        Euro comrades are not comrades what
      3. iouris
        iouris 25 October 2017 00: 14 New
        0
        It seems that there is still communism in Lithuania.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 24 October 2017 13: 51 New
      +2
      There would be corruption, but there is a reason for justification!
      “Why are you stealing state money?” - I fight with the Soviet government! (Oh well!)
      - Do you have a conscience? - No conscience. - Well, no and no trial.lol
    3. Slovak
      Slovak 24 October 2017 18: 21 New
      0
      The Baltic states and the proletariat, concepts are not compatible.
  2. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 24 October 2017 13: 33 New
    +7
    Comrades! Corruption will hit the occupation, as well as off-road and sloppiness laughing
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 24 October 2017 13: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: bankirchik34
      as well as off-road and sloppiness

      No, slovenly off-road ... laughing ..or off-road sloppiness ... something confused ... what
      1. Smog
        Smog 24 October 2017 13: 48 New
        +5
        Guys! The main thing is to hit. And then we'll figure it out. laughing
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 24 October 2017 13: 50 New
          +7
          Quote: Smog
          Guys! The main thing is to hit.

          Do not tell ...
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  3. Neserg
    Neserg 24 October 2017 13: 34 New
    +2
    It’s good when there is someone to steal. Write off your shortcomings and shortcomings.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 24 October 2017 17: 24 New
      +2
      Ahrenitelny logic, in the current corruption in the Baltic States, the Soviet Union is still to blame. I have no words.
  4. NIKNN
    NIKNN 24 October 2017 13: 34 New
    +3
    By logic, only occupation will save them from corruption ..., only by whom? They somehow didn’t fail for us, the corrupt officials themselves were inundated ...
  5. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 24 October 2017 13: 37 New
    17
    Lithuanians used corruption to fight Soviet power

    And now for what use?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 24 October 2017 13: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Some Compote
      And now for what use?

      To fight Russian aggression laughing
    2. Smog
      Smog 24 October 2017 13: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Some Compote
      And now for what use?

      To fight the Soviet legacy, probably ..... request
  6. zivXP
    zivXP 24 October 2017 13: 49 New
    +2
    And mainly smiles with a smart look laughing
    At first I thought a new patient, but he turns out to be the Minister of Finance of Lithuania.
    1. Slon_on
      Slon_on 24 October 2017 14: 00 New
      +3
      Yeah, here I think, where they have a cage in which such fools are hatched, or they are planted by budding.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 24 October 2017 17: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: zivXP
      At first I thought a new patient, but he turns out to be the Minister of Finance of Lithuania.

      Why can't the finance minister be a patient? Along the way, they have one in the Baltic states, an official and a patient. These are synonyms.
  7. Dorren
    Dorren 24 October 2017 14: 01 New
    0
    Ahaaaa, so here's the thing! Now everything is clear - because in Europe corruption from the same is a legacy of the struggle against the USSR! And in the Roman Empire, they just started to fight the USSR in advance - the augurs on the insides guessed! Oooh ...
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 24 October 2017 14: 02 New
    +1
    And I know how he personally fought with the invaders! In the kindergarten crap past the pot! wink
  9. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 October 2017 14: 06 New
    +1
    But what, is there no corruption in Lithuania today, or are all corrupt officials not from among the titular nation ?!
  10. Swetliy
    Swetliy 24 October 2017 14: 10 New
    0
    Well ridiculed ... !!! For a long time I did not laugh !!! laughing
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  12. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 24 October 2017 14: 43 New
    0
    Not a thief, but a freedom fighter! fellow
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 24 October 2017 15: 09 New
    +4
    So I want to say -Continue in the same vein, not everything Soviet has been eradicated yet!
    That's when it remains from the country of the farm and the swamp, then you can safely say ... We have eradicated everything alien / alien !!!
  14. anjey
    anjey 24 October 2017 15: 26 New
    +2
    “In those years, corruption (in Lithuania) was an instrument of resistance to occupation, of Soviet power. For example, they dragged something from collective farms.
    To paraphrase a little “In the 30s, corruption (in the USA) was an instrument of resistance to the occupation of state power. For example, smuggled alcohol was imported ,,, and indeed the United States has historically been the mother and father of large-scale comprehensive corruption which is trifling ....
  15. alexmach
    alexmach 24 October 2017 16: 57 New
    0
    Even the Maidan authorities in Ukraine can safely envy such a “formula” that actually justifies the existence of fraud, bribe taking and embezzlement.


    You, gentlemen, authors, but you do not know at all the modern Ukrainian mentality. Everything is more logical there than this gentleman. Of course, the Communists are to blame for corruption, where they specifically instilled it. And this is not news for a long time, but a well-established opinion in certain sections of society. Why is this corruption at all levels more in the west of Ukraine than in the "Russified" east as it does not explain.
  16. Wolka
    Wolka 24 October 2017 18: 36 New
    0
    everything to hide bad heredity ...
  17. faterdom
    faterdom 24 October 2017 19: 11 New
    +1
    You can’t give up the fight, otherwise it will be embarrassing for the Ukrainian “brothers” - they have already advanced very far in this matter!
  18. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 25 October 2017 00: 49 New
    0
    Human civilization is destroyed not by cataclysms, but by creative people!
  19. izya top
    izya top 25 October 2017 17: 26 New
    0
    Shapoka claims that while Lithuania was part of the Soviet Union, "corruption has become one of the Lithuanian instruments to counter occupation."