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Khodorkovsky urged Democrats to use elections for the collapse of Russia

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The former owner of Yukos, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, called for the upcoming presidential election to be viewed as a “big political event”, which should be used as an opportunity for democracy in Russia. The statement of the runaway oppositionist was published on his YouTube and Facebook pages.


According to Khodorkovsky, the upcoming presidential elections in Russia are in fact supposedly not elections, regardless of whether Grigory Yavlinsky, Alexey Navalny or Ksenia Sobchak participate in them, as well as who among them is the “Kremlin project”.

Khodorkovsky urged Democrats to use elections for the collapse of Russia


These elections, says the oppositionist, only where the final result of the vote depends on the true opinion of the voters, and not where the “general approval” is ensured by the power of the administrative resource.

In this regard, Khodorkovsky calls on the Democrats to look at the elections as a "big political event", which "must be used" to advance the following main tasks: to seek registration of all interested candidates, to make a protest vote, to support the promotion of "fundamental" issues.

Protest - means against Putin or his protege, for any eligible candidate, and in case of his absence - against all, spoiling the ballot. The fact of failure to vote for a predetermined winner, and not the fact of giving up their civil rights is important
- declared Khodorkovsky.

Khodorkovsky called Russia's "decentralization and federalization" the main issues by assigning the regions the right to independently determine policy, budget independence and a phased transition to a parliamentary form of government.
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  1. Iskander Sh
    Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 11: 15
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    Title does not match content
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    2. vorobey
      vorobey 24 October 2017 11: 19
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      Quote: Iskander Sh
      Title does not match content


      Reread the last paragraph carefully ...
      1. The black
        The black 24 October 2017 11: 28
        11
        Quote: vorobey
        Reread the last paragraph carefully ...

        Reading the content is not his thing ... laughing
    3. Pancir026
      Pancir026 24 October 2017 11: 28
      14
      Quote: Iskander Sh
      Title does not match content

      Or maybe you’ll read it carefully, the very content- “The main issues Khodorkovsky called the“ decentralization and federalization ”of Russia by securing the regions the right to independent policy, budget independence and a phased transition to a parliamentary form of government.2
      I remember the congress grumbling from the rostrum. A certain old man who has lost his mind, an icon of all liberals and democrats, A. Sakharov, already voiced something like that .. there’s something similar flashed in his projects too, http: //detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430 /?
      page = 16
      Read ... a lot of what was used in the destruction of the USSR. Now it is used in the destruction of the Russian Federation. Even the faces of the face. Have not changed in general .. all the same ..
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 24 October 2017 11: 34
        +6
        much of what was used in the destruction of the USSR

        and even earlier .....
      2. Iskander Sh
        Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 11: 35
        +3
        The institute of the federation will allow the regions not to live on handouts from Moscow and significantly reduce corruption.

        Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of the regions, rather than today's management pending approval by Moscow.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 October 2017 11: 40
          12
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          The institute of the federation will allow the regions not to live on handouts from Moscow and significantly reduce corruption.

          Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of the regions, rather than today's management pending approval by Moscow.


          tell me the mechanism of the destruction of corruption .. in the federation as you put it ..

          we have an example .. an opposition mayor .. and how coincidence the American ambassadors from this city will not come out .. coincidence?
          1. Iskander Sh
            Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 12: 03
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            Tell the mechanism of the destruction of corruption.



            I am not talking about the destruction of corruption, but about its reduction. Here is a banal example for you today, the regions do not elect governors, governors are appointed from Moscow. Moreover, they are appointed on the basis not of management efficiency, but of the degree of loyalty to Moscow. As a result, citizens cannot get rid of the thieving "governor" as long as he is devoted enough to Moscow.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 24 October 2017 12: 38
              10
              Quote: Iskander Sh
              Quote: vorobey
              Tell the mechanism of the destruction of corruption.



              I am not talking about the destruction of corruption, but about its reduction. Here is a banal example for you today, the regions do not elect governors, governors are appointed from Moscow. Moreover, they are appointed on the basis not of management efficiency, but of the degree of loyalty to Moscow. As a result, citizens cannot get rid of the thieving "governor" as long as he is devoted enough to Moscow.


              about the governors ... but will it be chosen by the people or local elites who need their own people in this place?
            2. BMP-2
              BMP-2 24 October 2017 14: 24
              +4
              Quote: Iskander Sh
              I'm not talking about the destruction of corruption, but about its reduction

              It reminds "Ural dumplings": "Our theater was expanded, but lowered" laughing
              Of course, the level at which corruption will run amok may be reduced, but the number of corrupt officials will only increase! yes
        2. 79807420129
          79807420129 24 October 2017 11: 48
          21
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          significantly reduce corruption.

          You yourself then realized what nonsense you froze. laughing
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of regions

          “Take sovereignty as much as you can take away” - don’t you remember such a slogan of the Alkash of All Russia? Or have you not yet made war in the Caucasus? negative
          1. Iskander Sh
            Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 12: 08
            +2
            Quote: 79807420129
            “Take sovereignty as much as you can take”



            Decentralization of power and sovereignty are two different things.
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 24 October 2017 12: 18
              14
              Quote: Iskander Sh
              Decentralization of power and sovereignty are two different things.

              The bottom line is the destruction of the country. So you chose the wrong site in promoting the ideas of outright traitors to Russia.
        3. The brightest
          The brightest 24 October 2017 11: 50
          +9
          Do not write more than this nonsense here, the wrong audience.
        4. klaus16
          klaus16 24 October 2017 11: 52
          12
          The state must be strong, and therefore tough. We have democracies and so on more than others. And the owner should be. Without a master there will be confusion and vacillation. This is the nature of society. And in different long words there is nothing to powder Bosko. Things, processes and phenomena must be called by their proper names, briefly and clearly.
        5. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 24 October 2017 11: 58
          +9
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          The institute of the federation will allow the regions not to live on handouts from Moscow and significantly reduce corruption.

          More precisely, it will redistribute corruption flows to the level of the subjects of the Federation. smile
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of the regions, rather than today's management pending approval by Moscow.

          Ja, ja ... this is how I remember the effective and timely management of the regions in the period "take sovereignty as you want". With the weakening of the center, the regions simply flourished ... smile
        6. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 24 October 2017 12: 33
          +2
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          The institute of the federation will allow the regions not to live on handouts from Moscow and significantly reduce corruption.

          Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of the regions, rather than today's management pending approval by Moscow.

          )))))
          The only thing that will allow the regional authorities to do is to steal even more.
          And another - the question of backfill: with unprofitable regions what? )))
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 24 October 2017 12: 50
            +7
            Quote: Krasnodar
            And another - the question of backfill: with unprofitable regions what? )))

            They did not fit into the market. © Chubais
            Go pick mushrooms and berries. © Khakamada - miners sitting without pay
        7. shark
          shark 24 October 2017 13: 47
          +1
          Which regions? Why should they conduct something and manage something. What nonsense. Only Moscow has the right to decide what and how to do in the periphery. This is the foundation of our statehood.
          1. Kozmenko Ivan
            Kozmenko Ivan 24 October 2017 19: 17
            +1
            I agree with you that dividing into regions and giving back both power and finances is a direct way to the collapse of the country. We already went under Tsar Boris Yeltsin with his "famous" phrase: "Take sovereignty how much you digest", then with great difficulty for years I had to fight with the princes and put everyone in their place and bind Russia !!!
        8. askort154
          askort154 24 October 2017 13: 48
          +5
          Iskander Sh ....... The institute of the federation will allow the regions not to live on handouts from Moscow and significantly reduce corruption.

          Apparently, the goer walked under the table when this “idea” was put into practice by Russian President Yeltsin. His message to the regions - “take as much sovereignty as you take”, almost ruined Russia. If Yeltsin had been in power for another term, Russia would have suffered the fate of the USSR.
          The Americans were confident that this process was no longer reversible and ceased to see the enemy in Russia. They were only worried about the fate of nuclear weapons and they began to devote their resources to the destruction and disposal of our nuclear reactors, primarily in the APP. So, it’s not possible to push Russia onto the rake of the 90s by any “Khodorkovsky” rake. These "little booties" are designed for such foolish ones as you., But the Russian people do not take you seriously yes
        9. Mairos
          Mairos 24 October 2017 13: 53
          +4
          In the 90s there were already all these cries about the independence of the regional authorities. Go through the woods !!
        10. mac789
          mac789 24 October 2017 14: 46
          0
          Unfortunately, we have already gone through this. The greater independence of the regions in reality means only the chaos of the local Princes and the adjacent organized crime groups. So let local kings first answer for the looting of the region, and then we'll see. In general, it is very difficult to maintain a balance of powers.
        11. Kozmenko Ivan
          Kozmenko Ivan 24 October 2017 19: 08
          +2
          It is necessary to eliminate social inequality, or at least reduce it, and not to begin “perestroika” again, which Khodorkovsky and his associates are trying to ruin Russia, just as the USSR has collapsed, and this gentleman who has robbed the country is trying to achieve that he is not Russian to him. alien. Iskander, stop setting traps that lead to non-stability in the country and especially to its collapse !!!
      3. killganoff
        killganoff 24 October 2017 11: 53
        +1
        Quote: Pancir026
        Quote: Iskander Sh
        Title does not match content

        Or maybe you’ll read it carefully, the very content- “The main issues Khodorkovsky called the“ decentralization and federalization ”of Russia by securing the regions the right to independent policy, budget independence and a phased transition to a parliamentary form of government.2
        I remember the congress grumbling from the rostrum. A certain old man who has lost his mind, an icon of all liberals and democrats, A. Sakharov, already voiced something like that .. there’s something similar flashed in his projects too, http: //detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430 /?
        page = 16
        Read ... a lot of what was used in the destruction of the USSR. Now it is used in the destruction of the Russian Federation. Even the faces of the face. Have not changed in general .. all the same ..

        I do not defend Khodorkovsky, he is the same as the rest of the "elite" of our state. But I will say the following: Do you generally understand what is meant by the concept of the Federation and the federal structure of the state ???
        The completely abolished right to elect the heads of regions and other officials by the people will exclude these concepts, as well as the lost any independence of the regions.
        The country is in the ass, agriculture is ruined, business is strangled, instead of dairy products, palm oil is on the shelves, import substitution is only on TV screens ... What are you thinking there, sir ?!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 24 October 2017 12: 37
          +2
          Quote: killganoff
          Quote: Pancir026
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          Title does not match content

          Or maybe you’ll read it carefully, the very content- “The main issues Khodorkovsky called the“ decentralization and federalization ”of Russia by securing the regions the right to independent policy, budget independence and a phased transition to a parliamentary form of government.2
          I remember the congress grumbling from the rostrum. A certain old man who has lost his mind, an icon of all liberals and democrats, A. Sakharov, already voiced something like that .. there’s something similar flashed in his projects too, http: //detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430 /?
          page = 16
          Read ... a lot of what was used in the destruction of the USSR. Now it is used in the destruction of the Russian Federation. Even the faces of the face. Have not changed in general .. all the same ..

          I do not defend Khodorkovsky, he is the same as the rest of the "elite" of our state. But I will say the following: Do you generally understand what is meant by the concept of the Federation and the federal structure of the state ???
          The completely abolished right to elect the heads of regions and other officials by the people will exclude these concepts, as well as the lost any independence of the regions.
          The country is in the ass, agriculture is ruined, business is strangled, instead of dairy products, palm oil is on the shelves, import substitution is only on TV screens ... What are you thinking there, sir ?!

          Just agriculture is on the rise ...
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 24 October 2017 13: 02
            +1
            Just agriculture is on the rise ...
            Did they tell you this from the TV? But in fact what? I did not really notice, to be honest.
            1. Monos
              Monos 24 October 2017 13: 34
              +6
              Quote: BecmepH
              I did not really notice, to be honest.

              Really? Are you eating quinoa? Are you preparing a hedgehog? fool
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 24 October 2017 14: 14
                0
                Quote: Monos
                Quote: BecmepH
                I did not really notice, to be honest.

                Really? Are you eating quinoa? Are you preparing a hedgehog? fool

                I had not eaten swans before. On the shelves, I did not notice any changes. Prices have not fallen. So what is the rise? Be objective. At least do not be fooled. If you can - give a couple of examples.
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 October 2017 14: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  If you can - give a couple of examples.


                  One example still exists. I love Polish apples. Greni. Green ones. Large ... Now they are not. Neither in the market nor in the store.

                  Simerinka? Yes please.

                  Quote: BecmepH
                  On the shelves, I did not notice any changes.


                  And this is only with apples.
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 24 October 2017 14: 47
                    0
                    Simerinka?
                    Yes, in my family in my life I didn’t eat Polish apples, but Cемиforever, always. Polish apples are gone, yes. And where is the agricultural rise, then?
                    1. Vanek
                      Vanek 24 October 2017 14: 50
                      +2
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      Yes, in my family in my life did not eat Polish apples


                      You don’t take much on yourself. yes

                      Yes, and then. Semirinka, simerinka - it doesn’t matter.

                      Among the many different varieties, it is especially worth highlighting Renet Semerenko - apples, the taste of which is well known to everyone since childhood.

                      . Now there are several equal forms of writing this variety: Renet Simirenko, Semerenko, Simerenko, Semirenko. But in all cases we are talking about a winter variety with dark green fruits.
                2. Monos
                  Monos 24 October 2017 16: 32
                  +5
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  I had not eaten swans before. On the shelves, I did not notice any changes.

                  laughing More examples needed?
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 24 October 2017 13: 37
              +1
              Quote: BecmepH
              Just agriculture is on the rise ...
              Did they tell you this from the TV? But in fact what? I did not really notice, to be honest.

              But in fact, I'm a little bit in the subject :)
              12 thousand hectares in the Krasnodar Territory near the father-in-law, I myself do vegetables and fruits
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 24 October 2017 14: 26
                0
                And before that, there was less hectare? Have you lowered the prices of your products? If not, then to me, as a buyer, the rise is not visible.
                You are the second commentator who just says the words
                Really? Are you eating quinoa? Are you preparing a hedgehog?
                But in fact, I'm a little bit in the subject :)
                12 thousand hectares in the Krasnodar Territory near the father-in-law, I myself do vegetables and fruits
                Tell me stupid, what is the rise?
                12 thousand hectares
                Wow! Almost a quarter of Krasnodar. The area of ​​Krasnodar is 50 667 ha. Fill the country with products
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 October 2017 14: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  what is the rise?


                  Climb? And there is no rise !!! There is an initial acceleration !!!

                  Or you, what do you want in a cartoon? Suddenly a magician arrives ...

                  It does not happen!
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 24 October 2017 14: 53
                    0
                    Well ... And one friend shouts,
                    that
                    Just agriculture is on the rise ...
                    And you harnessed for it with Polish apples. I was so hoping for a lift, but it turns out
                    Climb? And there is no rise !!! There is an initial acceleration !!!
                    That friend will be upset
                    Krasnodar
                    1. Vanek
                      Vanek 24 October 2017 14: 56
                      +1
                      To start the movement (as well as the rise) is necessary ...

                      CONTINUE TO CONTINUE ??????

                      Here we started with apples!
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 24 October 2017 15: 45
                  0
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  And before that, there was less hectare? Have you lowered the prices of your products? If not, then to me, as a buyer, the rise is not visible.
                  You are the second commentator who just says the words
                  Really? Are you eating quinoa? Are you preparing a hedgehog?
                  But in fact, I'm a little bit in the subject :)
                  12 thousand hectares in the Krasnodar Territory near the father-in-law, I myself do vegetables and fruits
                  Tell me stupid, what is the rise?
                  12 thousand hectares
                  Wow! Almost a quarter of Krasnodar. The area of ​​Krasnodar is 50 667 ha. Fill the country with products

                  Tikhoretsky and Timashevsky districts - wheat, SPK seed, feed corn, alfalfa.
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        2. Oden280
          Oden280 24 October 2017 12: 45
          +2
          What kind of people? What is the right choice? What utopia do you live in? Not a single candidate who does not suit the elite will be allowed to take part in the elections for a cannon shot. And it does not matter what kind of "elite", regional or state. And this same federalization and “choice” rights at the regional level simply leads to the redistribution of financial and material values ​​into the pockets of local bureaucrats, the cultivation of princes and, ultimately, to the collapse of the country. This has already passed in the 90s.
        3. 34 region
          34 region 24 October 2017 12: 56
          +3
          11.53. And where is the guarantee that they will choose the right person, and not a corrupt official or a foreign agent? These nominees are known only to those who nominate them. And with what slogans do they go to the polls? What do they promise the people if they are elected? Well, they selected a candidate from us under the slogan * Only forward! *. What exactly does this slogan mean? What kind of abstraction? And then what to ask the candidate elected under this slogan? What claims should he make? What promises did he fulfill and which did not? These elections are, by and large, bullshit. Since under the election people are promoted by certain clans. And whom to put or choose? I think that it is necessary to set and choose those people who have achieved the greatest efficiency from their leadership. For example, in a city, we select from the three best enterprise managers. In the area, of the top three settlement leaders. As ministers, of the top three industry leaders. And for the presidency, of the three most effective ministers. I think such a career growth will be the fairest. Participation in the election of people like Sobchak and Navalny of course gives the appearance of freedom. But let's say Sobchak was elected. Does she have experience in managing an enterprise, territory, or ministry? No. But there is an experience of intrigue. Do we need this experience? Well, with this experience Sobchak came to power. So what? What is Navalny’s experience? The same experience of intrigue. Well, maybe he can get the money and put together a demonstration. So what? Do we need this experience? No. We need the experience of Stalin, Beria, Korolev ... These are the candidates to choose from. And that leaders were alien to mercantile interests. And their salaries should be at the average level for their profile. If the average salary in the ministry is 10 thousand, then the minister should have one. Let them feel and feel the situation in the economy in their own skin. hi
        4. Pancir026
          Pancir026 24 October 2017 13: 01
          +2
          Quote: killganoff
          What are you thinking about, sir ?!

          I don’t know what you think, you think you think exactly the way all the smart-hearted intelligentsia “thought” in 90..TELL the price of their “thoughts” or do you understand yourself, at the expense of palm and other various defective substitutes for a natural product?
          Quote: killganoff
          The completely abolished right to elect the heads of regions and other officials by the people will exclude these concepts, as well as the lost any independence of the regions.

          Well, well..and for someone else a secret. That this is a dubious "right to choose" a fiction, because the winner is not the one who is smart and can do BUSINESS for the benefit of society, but a huckster with a thick wallet, for the sake of his dubious deeds, how the same Belykh, Khoroshavin and others?
          Here is your credo - ““ We, intellectuals of a special kind, began spiritually, to develop during the times of Stalin’s fears, experienced disappointment in the Khrushchev thaw, painfully waited for the end of the Brezhnev stagnation, did perestroika. And, finally, with our own eyes, we can see with our own eyes, what our ideas and our hopes poured into practice ...

          No need to fool yourself. We have not been and still are not experts in the exact sense of the word. We were, and still are, the ideologists of the anti-totalitarian - and thus anti-communist - revolution ... Our thinking is mostly ideological, for it viewed the old communist system as an enemy, as something that must die, decay, turn into ruins, like the Tower of Babel. Although each of us had different enemies: Marxism, the military-industrial complex, the imperial inheritance, the Stalinist perversion of Leninism, etc. And the more the previous system pressed and oppressed each of us, the stronger the desire to wait for its death and decay, the more there was a stronger desire to undermine, overturn its foundations ... Hence the initial, subconscious destructiveness of our thinking, our works that turned the Soviet world upside down ... We did not know the West, we suffered romantic liberalism and a passionate desire to wait for devastating changes even during this life ... ”So wrote a certain A. Tsipko, that at one time he dug in not somewhere but under the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. And a lot of people are related to such tsip-hoes, and you are all talking about the elections ... http: //detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430/?
          page = 41
          Quote: killganoff
          Do you generally understand what is meant by the concept of the Federation and the federal structure of the state ???

          It seems that you understand what badness you are trying to talk about ....
        5. Monos
          Monos 24 October 2017 13: 31
          +9
          Quote: killganoff
          Country in the ass,

          You did not confuse yourself with the country? You may be in the same place, but what does the country have to do with it? smile Can you try to work? It helps a lot, you know, to get out of the ass. Although I'm afraid it will not help you.
        6. mavrus
          mavrus 24 October 2017 14: 40
          +2
          "The country is in the ass, agriculture has collapsed ..." It seems that Mr. killganofff stupidly prodroh last seventeen years.
          But seriously, for some reason, the most exciting thing is that the "country in the ass" is precisely those who in the 90s hung us noodles on our ears, how we got hurt ...
        7. Albert1988
          Albert1988 24 October 2017 18: 36
          +1
          Quote: killganoff
          agriculture is ruined

          Yeah, something 100 kilometers south of Moscow and to Rostov-on-Don, all in the fields ...
          Quote: killganoff
          on the shelves instead of dairy products palm oil

          Hmm, you have long read the composition of what you buy? In case of approval. that the "composition is lying" - how did you establish the presence of palm oil in the composition?
          Quote: killganoff
          import substitution only on TV screens

          Yeah, the same thing, even camembert and brie went to domestic production - produced, for example, not far from Pavlovskaya Sloboda in the Moscow region)))
    4. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 24 October 2017 11: 31
      +9
      Quote: Iskander Sh
      Title does not match content
      The title should have been like this: There was a voice from the garbage!
    5. Will
      Will 24 October 2017 11: 34
      +3
      Quote: Iskander Sh
      Title does not match content

      It is fully consistent, because the election victory of SUCH democrats will immediately exacerbate a lot of questions, which cannot but affect the type of Ukraine.
    6. stolz
      stolz 24 October 2017 11: 35
      +2
      It is difficult to understand the realities of today, Khodorkovsky was convicted, sewed mittens in the zone and did not bother anyone. Who made the decision to release him, how much was he paid? This is really interesting.
      1. Iskander Sh
        Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 11: 37
        +3
        Quote: Stolz
        Who made the decision to release him, how much was he paid?



        Putin made the decision as soon as possible. No one paid anyone. It was a game of political warming.
        1. The brightest
          The brightest 24 October 2017 11: 55
          +4
          Quote: Iskander Sh
          It was a game of political warming.

          Well, if you consider the request of the dying mother - warming, then of course ... He was pardoned and he promised not to engage in politics. That’s what the opposition’s word is worth - no matter what!
          1. Iskander Sh
            Iskander Sh 24 October 2017 12: 12
            0
            Quote: Lightest
            That's what the opposition’s word is worth



            And what do you want from Khodorkovsky? smile
            1. Monos
              Monos 24 October 2017 13: 38
              +9
              Quote: Iskander Sh
              And what do you want from Khodorkovsky?

              Personally, I want Khodor to calm down ... like Berezovsky. smile

              Grave of Berezovsky. Well-groomed, littered with flowers of liberal fans. smile
    7. vkl.47
      vkl.47 24 October 2017 11: 53
      +2
      The feeling that the Americans do not recognize our elections in advance. In the spring this will start ... Such a squalor and stuffing on all fronts
      1. askort154
        askort154 24 October 2017 14: 36
        +1
        kl. 47 ...... The feeling that the Americans do not recognize the elections in advance. In the spring this will start ... Such a squalor and stuffing on all fronts

        That's for sure. They will discuss the topic of "Russian interference in the elections in the United States," before our elections, in order to make a "mirror answer." The provocations and bile of the Western media will increase as they approach March 18th. tongue
    8. Maz
      Maz 24 October 2017 13: 47
      +1
      Let it be. He, like a piece of shit, will attract all the maggots to himself in a heap, it will be easier to control and stop nonsense. And the agent network is easy to recruit. The Americans will rush to use it, and we will be in the know about all the planned filth.
  2. Smog
    Smog 24 October 2017 11: 18
    13
    "decentralization and federalization" of Russia by securing the rights to regions to independently determine policies, budget independence

    Divided into specific "principalities"? This is an old dream of some shit. Well, it will be easier to sell everything to the west, although not a little has been sold now. And if they split it up, ALL will be sold !!!!!
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 24 October 2017 11: 21
      +8
      Oh! Not that Russia, not that! In good times, with Misha, as with Left Trotsky in 1940 - "without noise and dust" ..... laughing
      Namesake, welcome !!!! hi
      1. Smog
        Smog 24 October 2017 11: 28
        +5
        Konstantin ! Hello! soldier drinks So I write that these are their wet, rainbow dreams ...
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        Not that Russia

        God grant! God grant! But you can’t relax in any way. To these piranhas of liberalism just give me a piece of power, so they strive to swallow in full. And that the worst will not choke and will not feel remorse due to its absence
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 24 October 2017 11: 30
          +7
          Gentlemen, note: he does not have a scarf in any image. Fears.
          1. d ^ Amir
            d ^ Amir 24 October 2017 11: 35
            +4
            he has no scarf

            send an ice ax with a package .... as a gift to name days, for example ....
            1. urman
              urman 24 October 2017 11: 55
              +3
              Quote: d ^ Amir
              send an ice ax with a parcel.

              The scarf will be easier, it is possible by registered letter.
              Greetings from Berezovsky.
              1. d ^ Amir
                d ^ Amir 24 October 2017 12: 22
                +4
                same good option
    2. Masya masya
      Masya masya 24 October 2017 11: 28
      +7
      Quote: Smog
      Divided into specific "principalities"?

      As old as the world ... divide and conquer ...
      1. Smog
        Smog 24 October 2017 11: 38
        10
        Quote: Masya Masya
        Masya masya

        Marina! Glad to meet you love !
        And you know I liked Hodor in the clift more. They let him out early, he did not stand firmly on the path of correction.

        Quote: Masya Masya
        Old as the world.

        Well yes! Everything that began in time immemorial, read from Jonan I Kalita must be pohrenit according to their concepts. And what? They did not collect, they do not mind ....
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya 24 October 2017 11: 51
          +5
          Pivetik, Konstantin! love In the photo, the correct Khodorkovsky successfully went out, right ... good

          love
          1. Smog
            Smog 24 October 2017 11: 58
            +4
            Quote: Masya Masya

            And you, ma'am, all the best. And we are at the "combat" post laughing
            1. Masya masya
              Masya masya 24 October 2017 12: 01
              +6
              laughing the soldier is sleeping, is the service going?
              1. Smog
                Smog 24 October 2017 12: 04
                +6
                Quote: Masya Masya
                laughing the soldier is sleeping, is the service going?

                Aha
                lol
                we will quietly so as not to wake lol
    3. NIKNN
      NIKNN 24 October 2017 11: 33
      +5
      Quote: Smog
      Divided into specific "principalities"? This is an old dream of some shit. Well, it will be easier to sell everything to the west, although not a little has been sold now. And if they split it up, ALL will be sold !!!!!

      Here, to put it mildly, only a bunch. They don’t know yet how, but they are doing their best ..., the states said, if you don’t overthrow Putin and do not make a story like Gorbachev’s, then everything you earned with their inhuman work will be confiscated ... They put their faberge into the fist of the States, now and turn around ... This is only the beginning, but I think that this time it does not shine ... if only what other muck they will come up with ...
      1. 34 region
        34 region 24 October 2017 13: 09
        +1
        11.33. Well, and who is to blame for them that they laid their eggs in someone else's basket? They set their own laws here and dreamed of living according to the laws of the West. They themselves considered the laws of the West to be the most correct and fair. And now their dream of a just western law comes true! Now they are offered to live according to Western laws. Either you lose everything, or go to a deal with the investigation and use your funds under the direction of the investigation! All! The boys played in big uncles !? crying Collect toys, write in a pot and go to sleep! Right now, uncles will solve adult issues! wassat Dreams Come True! They wanted to live according to the laws of the West, and the dream came true! And now we express our stormy joy over the fulfillment of our dreams! bully
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 24 October 2017 13: 23
          +2
          Quote: Region 34
          Dreams Come True! They wanted to live according to the laws of the West, and the dream came true! And now we express our stormy joy over the fulfillment of our dreams!

          I'm also for wassat
  3. ivselim
    ivselim 24 October 2017 11: 18
    +2
    You would go to Hodor .... where Makar did not drive calves.
    1. volodya
      volodya 24 October 2017 11: 34
      +5
      Quote: ivselim
      You would go to Hodor .... where Makar did not drive calves.

      How tired these shit and liberals are! One of them was considered an artist, but when he left for France, he immediately thundered into a madhouse!
      1. reservist
        reservist 24 October 2017 12: 21
        +7
        No one deserves the bad ... Nobody!
        Everyone deserves only the good.
        Someone have a good relationship.
        Someone - good n ** duley! laughing
        1. ivselim
          ivselim 24 October 2017 12: 25
          +1
          Quote: reservist
          No one deserves the bad ... Nobody!
          Everyone deserves only the good.
          Someone have a good relationship.
          Someone - good n ** duley! laughing

          This body (in other words, its language does not turn) needs the second option.
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 24 October 2017 11: 58
      +2
      I think this is the opinion of the people (if you could go to hell). Why listen and spend time on such garbage. Does everything think you can buy?
    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 24 October 2017 12: 05
      +1
      Why, he doesn’t wear a white scarf? But in general, the color is not fundamental here ....
  4. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 24 October 2017 11: 20
    0
    him for this prematurely released?
  5. japs
    japs 24 October 2017 11: 21
    11
    A petty liar, he promised, he swore by his mother not to get into politics.
  6. IL-18
    IL-18 24 October 2017 11: 34
    +6
    These liberals, the so-called, do not go to the polls. They know the outcome of the election in advance! No matter how much I talked with liberal-turned people, like elections, they have only one conclusion: what to go there, everything is already clear. Khodorkovsky is broadcasting into the void, sheep will not go to the polling station, there is no party. Here, on an unauthorized Sabbath, you are always welcome, you can take selfies there.
  7. WAN
    WAN 24 October 2017 11: 35
    +7
    All for the horse, ugh you, Ksyusha!

    The composition of the Government of the Russian Federation under President K. Sobchak-Vitorgan:
    - Minister of Defense - A. Serdyukov
    - Minister of Property - Baba Serdyukova (Vasilyeva)
    - Minister of Finance - Colonel Zakharchenko
    - Minister of Economics - S. Mavrodi
    - Minister of Culture - S. Shnurov
    - Minister of Taxes and Duties - A. Navalny
    - Ministry of Emergencies, head of the fire department - P.Pavlensky
    - Minister of Health - A. Kashpirovsky
    - Minister of Foreign Affairs - Bozena Rynska-Kuritsyna
    - Minister of the Interior - K. Raikin
    - Minister of Affairs of the Republic of Crimea - A. Makarevich

    In live fellow
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 24 October 2017 12: 04
      +6
      Fiercely, I protest furiously!
      Why are Schatz, Katz and Albac forgotten? Where are Zilbertrud, Zilbermir and Zilbermai listed? Where did Attorney General Feigin go?
      And how could you miss the light of liberal thought of Leo Sharansky ?! laughing
  8. reservist
    reservist 24 October 2017 11: 36
    +6
    The final result of the vote depends on the genuine opinion of the voters, and not where the “popular approval” is provided by the force of the administrative resource.

    In 1996, Zyuganov won in Tatarstan with a big margin, that is, popular approval.
    But the next day they announced that they had counted incorrectly, and Yeltsin won. The administrative resource won.
    I immediately remembered a joke:
    Chairman of the Counting Commission: - I have two news - good and bad ...
    Yeltsin: - Well, come on bad.
    PSK: - Zyuganov scored 70% of the vote.
    Yeltsin: - And the good news?
    PSK: - And you scored 85% ... what
  9. Victor-M
    Victor-M 24 October 2017 11: 50
    +4
    The real election, Khodorkovsky argues, is only where the end result of the vote depends on the genuine opinion of the voters.

    Yeah, and meets the interests of the United States.
  10. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 11: 55
    +2
    Quote: Iskander Sh
    Decentralization will allow regional authorities to conduct more efficient and timely management of the regions, rather than today's management pending approval by Moscow.

    ---------------------------------------
    In principle, Khodorkovsky is right because the authorities cleaned up the left flank, offering a choice between bad and worse. Only Khodorkovsky’s lips are talking about liberal candidates with the corresponding destructive and disarming socio-political program. As for “decentralization,” it’s more about income redistribution, because now it has turned out that almost all regions are in debt, waiting for handouts from the center. So it shouldn’t, we should develop territories, including industrial, expanding the tax base . Moscow offers an increasingly destructive social and economic policy aimed at curtailing medicine and education, raising the retirement age. I somehow understand this. Well, if so, then it is not clear who to choose, even Putin is not happy with everything, especially his silence on domestic politics and its results.
    1. japs
      japs 24 October 2017 12: 30
      +4
      Yoklmn! How much you need to repeat, in our country capitalism. Those in power understand and really learn. K. Marx directly called the proletariat the grave digger of capitalism.
      I suppose now you understand why industrialization is slowing down in the country?
      Office plankton, traders and small entrepreneurs ... Revolutionaries, Mlyn.
  11. ded100
    ded100 24 October 2017 11: 56
    +9
    Send everyone to the Ukrainians urgently !! am
  12. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 24 October 2017 12: 01
    +6
    On the outer fence around the perimeter of any zone there is a poster - “To freedom with a clear conscience”, and this shameless mug along the way this poster did not read. And in general, in my opinion this criminal element is in the base of the Interpol wanted list?
  13. polarural
    polarural 24 October 2017 12: 15
    +1
    A vile person, when losing a game, tries to destroy society by his actions.
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 24 October 2017 12: 17
    0
    He will end his glorious journey in the bathroom, with a silk scarf around his neck.
  15. Grayish
    Grayish 24 October 2017 12: 22
    +3
    Quote: Iskander Sh
    Quote: vorobey
    Tell the mechanism of the destruction of corruption.



    I am not talking about the destruction of corruption, but about its reduction. Here is a banal example for you today, the regions do not elect governors, governors are appointed from Moscow. Moreover, they are appointed on the basis not of management efficiency, but of the degree of loyalty to Moscow. As a result, citizens cannot get rid of the thieving "governor" as long as he is devoted enough to Moscow.

    This is one of Putin’s victories. In the 90s, the director of a large plant in Siberia did not hesitate to tell his subordinates at the meeting “We will separate the region from Russia, we will live perfectly” Khodorkovsky wants Russia to crawl like a rotten rag. As for financial independence, this implies that each region (according to Khodorkovsky) is developing at its own expense (which the governor did not manage to steal). Crimea will build a Kerch bridge with your own money? Will independent governors steal less?
    1. DMB84
      DMB84 24 October 2017 14: 15
      +3
      Quote: Grayish
      Quote: Iskander Sh
      Quote: vorobey
      Tell the mechanism of the destruction of corruption.



      I am not talking about the destruction of corruption, but about its reduction. Here is a banal example for you today, the regions do not elect governors, governors are appointed from Moscow. Moreover, they are appointed on the basis not of management efficiency, but of the degree of loyalty to Moscow. As a result, citizens cannot get rid of the thieving "governor" as long as he is devoted enough to Moscow.

      This is one of Putin’s victories. In the 90s, the director of a large plant in Siberia did not hesitate to tell his subordinates at the meeting “We will separate the region from Russia, we will live perfectly” Khodorkovsky wants Russia to crawl like a rotten rag. As for financial independence, this implies that each region (according to Khodorkovsky) is developing at its own expense (which the governor did not manage to steal). Crimea will build a Kerch bridge with your own money? Will independent governors steal less?

      Add my five cents. The country is at war (albeit undeclared and hybrid). Estimate a situation when each lieutenant will invent himself. when to attack and on whom. and in general, where and who is the enemy. This is about the governors. Or we live in one big common country, or we tear on the smallest fragments. The Union has already been torn .... There are now district princes command. This is not enough for the states.
  16. Grayish
    Grayish 24 October 2017 12: 27
    +2
    Quote: reservist
    The final result of the vote depends on the genuine opinion of the voters, and not where the “popular approval” is provided by the force of the administrative resource.

    In 1996, Zyuganov won in Tatarstan with a big margin, that is, popular approval.
    But the next day they announced that they had counted incorrectly, and Yeltsin won. The administrative resource won.
    I immediately remembered a joke:
    Chairman of the Counting Commission: - I have two news - good and bad ...
    Yeltsin: - Well, come on bad.
    PSK: - Zyuganov scored 70% of the vote.
    Yeltsin: - And the good news?
    PSK: - And you scored 85% ... what

    The answer is very simple and has long been known. Zyuganov was not going to become a power. And they had an agreement with EBN. Hence the prohibitions on campaigning by Zyuganov and other oddities. He is much more satisfying for lobbying in the Duma (who just did not feed him) and not answering for anything.
  17. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 October 2017 12: 31
    +1
    It is time for Pole Khodorkovsky to issue a passport Not a Citizen of the Russian Federation, let him go in order to restore order in Poland, there are not a few of his problems, but he wipes his pants in Russia ....
  18. Zubr
    Zubr 24 October 2017 12: 35
    +2
    What kind of democrats are they? Well, since you are so smart, what the hell are you, citizen Khodorkovsky did not pay taxes democratically, did not worry about the state of the country, the people, the integrity of the state, while everyone voted against the collapse of the Union, your top oligarchy was dancing on the bones of people with your politicians bought ? The bourgeois creep. And I nevermind, let him have at least seven spans in his forehead. Take care of your forehead by the way, and then inadvertently, whoever will thread the lead nail into you will hammer it. smile
  19. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 12: 41
    +1
    Quote: japs
    Yoklmn! How much you need to repeat, in our country capitalism. Those in power understand and really learn. K. Marx directly called the proletariat the grave digger of capitalism.
    I suppose now you understand why industrialization is slowing down in the country?
    Office plankton, traders and small entrepreneurs ... Revolutionaries, Mlyn.

    ---------------------------------
    No need to repeat anything. I say that Putin and his Co. have the day before yesterday’s economic program and that it differs from Khodorkovsky’s program only at a lower speed. As for capitalism, this language does not dare to call the robbery of the Russian colony capitalism. In capitalism, at least capital is present, but in our country it is purposefully withdrawn to offshore. It’s just that under Khodorkovsky they’ve rubbed 90 kopecks per ruble, under Putin they’ve been digging 50 kopecks per ruble. And in principle, it turns out that we can completely live on the rest. Another question is that it is necessary to return the withdrawn 50 kopecks to the treasury as well. And so, there is no alternative to socialism in Russia. Capitalism will eat the last legacy of the USSR (seniority, pensions, retirement age, housing and communal services) and it will be very bad.
  20. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 12: 43
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Why are Schatz, Katz and Albac forgotten? Where are Zilbertrud, Zilbermir and Zilbermai listed? Where did Attorney General Feigin go?

    -------------------------
    Now, for Lucia Stein, it really became a shame. laughing hi
  21. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 12: 44
    0
    Quote: Nemesis
    It is time for Pole Khodorkovsky to issue a passport Not a Citizen of the Russian Federation, let him go in order to restore order in Poland, there are not a few of his problems, but he wipes his pants in Russia ....

    -------------------------
    Pole? Hmmm ... But he doesn’t look like a person. laughing
  22. notingem
    notingem 24 October 2017 12: 45
    +1
    Passed by. There was already decentralization of the regions. We barely stopped. Some of the governors are sitting. Only not for politics but for theft
  23. Nitarius
    Nitarius 24 October 2017 12: 46
    +2

    Well, this all does not exist ..... oh scoundrel! it was necessary to dig it in the zone guys!
  24. RL
    RL 24 October 2017 12: 59
    0
    And what? Chechnya is already a federal republic, with its own laws, police, courts, and army. And the money received by blackmail from Moscow. And Tatarstan began to escalate. And work according to the Chechen scenario. And where does Khodorkovsky? Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks. Khodorkovsky designates a plan to save Russia!
    1. Pancir026
      Pancir026 24 October 2017 13: 08
      +3
      Quote: RL
      And what? Chechnya is already a federal republic, with its own laws, police, courts, and army. And the money received by blackmail from Moscow. And Tatarstan began to escalate. And work according to the Chechen scenario. And where does Khodorkovsky? Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks. Khodorkovsky designates a plan to save Russia!

      This mishmash of rumors, gossip and outright lies, who put it into your head?
      You think so ... and what can you refer to in support of this mishmash of solukhs for the glory of the Khodorkovsky?
  25. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 13: 01
    +3
    Quote: RL
    Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks.

    --------------------------------------
    In what year, you will not prompt?
  26. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 24 October 2017 13: 19
    +3
    Quote: RL
    And what? Chechnya is already a federal republic, with its own laws, police, courts, and army. And the money received by blackmail from Moscow. And Tatarstan began to escalate. And work according to the Chechen scenario. And where does Khodorkovsky? Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks. Khodorkovsky designates a plan to save Russia!

    Oh, another "bunch" under the flag of a "shitty European ... page" .. sit and be silent dear, whose cow as they say would mumble ...
  27. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 October 2017 13: 22
    0
    Jew found democrats with us? Well this is not in Europe ... Go down to earth ...
  28. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 October 2017 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: RL
    And what? Chechnya is already a federal republic, with its own laws, police, courts, and army. And the money received by blackmail from Moscow. And Tatarstan began to escalate. And work according to the Chechen scenario. And where does Khodorkovsky? Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks. Khodorkovsky designates a plan to save Russia!

    What are you sick of? Does Jewish Khodor have a plan to save Russia? Let's go back to the ward, God forbid the doctor comes ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 October 2017 16: 04
      -1
      Quote: Hurricane70
      Quote: RL
      And what? Chechnya is already a federal republic, with its own laws, police, courts, and army. And the money received by blackmail from Moscow. And Tatarstan began to escalate. And work according to the Chechen scenario. And where does Khodorkovsky? Russia was destroyed by the Bolsheviks. Khodorkovsky designates a plan to save Russia!

      What are you sick of? Does Jewish Khodor have a plan to save Russia? Let's go back to the ward, God forbid the doctor comes ...

      He is cross.
  29. Slon_on
    Slon_on 24 October 2017 13: 25
    +1
    But is it not time for this subject to send a replica of the BAB scarf (Boris Abramovich Berezovsky) or a model of the famous ice ax, for example. Many "good" nights, I think, will be.
  30. Enoch
    Enoch 24 October 2017 13: 41
    0
    Well, certainly not for him!
  31. Clone
    Clone 24 October 2017 14: 03
    +3
    Sobchachka shares her "considerations" that Crimea is Ukrainian ... This activist offers his "like-minded people" to tear up the State ... Yablochnik "tortured" defense issues and Syria ...
    And after all the liberal husks declared, are they still hoping for something else politically ??? However...
  32. Salx
    Salx 24 October 2017 14: 07
    +1
    Quote: killganoff
    Quote: Pancir026
    Quote: Iskander Sh
    Title does not match content

    Or maybe you’ll read it carefully, the very content- “The main issues Khodorkovsky called the“ decentralization and federalization ”of Russia by securing the regions the right to independent policy, budget independence and a phased transition to a parliamentary form of government.2
    I remember the congress grumbling from the rostrum. A certain old man who has lost his mind, an icon of all liberals and democrats, A. Sakharov, already voiced something like that .. there’s something similar flashed in his projects too, http: //detectivebooks.ru/book/29151430 /?
    page = 16
    Read ... a lot of what was used in the destruction of the USSR. Now it is used in the destruction of the Russian Federation. Even the faces of the face. Have not changed in general .. all the same ..

    I do not defend Khodorkovsky, he is the same as the rest of the "elite" of our state. But I will say the following: Do you generally understand what is meant by the concept of the Federation and the federal structure of the state ???
    The completely abolished right to elect the heads of regions and other officials by the people will exclude these concepts, as well as the lost any independence of the regions.
    The country is in the ass, agriculture is ruined, business is strangled, instead of dairy products, palm oil is on the shelves, import substitution is only on TV screens ... What are you thinking there, sir ?!


    hmm .. didn’t know that in China a ticking ass (
  33. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 24 October 2017 14: 12
    0
    Fluent. Dreams to return. And "To freedom with a clear conscience." Who is bothering? Suddenly live? Democracy must be democratic. (This is a commentary review).
  34. hohkn
    hohkn 24 October 2017 14: 42
    0
    Khodorkovsky calls on the democrats to look at the elections as a “great political action” that “needs to be used” to advance the following main tasks: to seek registration of all candidates who want to vote, to make a protest vote, to support the promotion of “fundamental” issues.

    Oh, and the ice ax is crying over him! negative
    He’s afraid to come and be afraid to munch. Only because of the mattress's back can.
  35. Sergey53
    Sergey53 24 October 2017 15: 46
    +1
    At one time, they released the goat for a subscription, and he put it on it.
  36. PalBor
    PalBor 24 October 2017 16: 42
    +5
    I remember that Satanovsky with his unique intonation sang:
    -In the 90s, Michal Borisych was very popular among killers.
    -What ordered so much?
    - No, I paid a lot ...
    Discuss the statements of such ... radishes - do not respect yourself.
  37. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 24 October 2017 17: 19
    +1
    Somewhere lies an ice ax ..
  38. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 October 2017 20: 24
    +1
    A runaway thief gives advice from afar ... So show nobility to criminals praying for pardon!
  39. Cat
    Cat 25 October 2017 09: 36
    +1
    I propose the decentralization of the car Khodorkovsky. Wheels and brakes need more autonomy.
  40. misti1973
    misti1973 30 October 2017 23: 09
    0
    Democratization is one thing, collapse is another! Dumb, miserable propaganda for those who have forgotten how to think with their brains.