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US returns consular archive of Russia after “careful study”

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It became known that only a few weeks later the American authorities deigned to return the archive of the Russian consulate in San Francisco. The archive was forwarded to Washington. Documentation handed Russian diplomats after many days of studying without the appropriate sanctions from Russia.


Recall that in the case of a frank expulsion of Russian diplomats from the consulate building, they themselves were not allowed by the officers of the American special services to take away archival materials.

US returns consular archive of Russia after “careful study”


From the statement of the press service of the Russian Embassy in the United States:
The US authorities did not give us access to the building of the Russian Consulate General in San Francisco, which was closed by their decision from 2 September, in order to export the consular archive. Instead, they self-packaged and shipped it to Washington. This was done in spite of the repeated protests of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Embassy (Russia). October 23 archive transferred to the embassy.


It is noted that archival documents of any diplomatic mission are state property and have immunity status. At the same time it added that their actions the US side again grossly violated international law. In particular, we are talking about violations of the relevant provisions of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations between the countries of the world.

From the message of the Russian embassy:
The negligent attitude of official Washington to international law, our diplomatic and consular objects and property has opened up the possibility of a similar treatment with US offices in Russia. According to the principle of reciprocity on which diplomatic relations are based.


At the moment, Russia has not accepted any response to the closure of the diplomatic mission and the trade mission, the collapse of the flags and the actual abduction of the consulate’s archive.
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  1. The black
    The black 24 October 2017 06: 27
    21
    Well, they returned it all right ... but my question is: "Why didn’t we withdraw the consular documents of the Americans from their consulate in Moscow?" (however, the question can be considered rhetorical) .... now, too, would have returned with fanfare ...
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 24 October 2017 06: 35
      +4
      US returns consular archive of Russia after “careful study”
      - After such actions, the ETU will not be called a “cultural” language.
      1. The black
        The black 24 October 2017 06: 37
        23
        At the moment, Russia has not accepted any response to the closure of the diplomatic mission and the trade mission, the collapse of the flags and the actual abduction of the consulate’s archive.
        Disgrace! ... Cowards! ..
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 24 October 2017 06: 45
          +2
          It is clear that in just 1,5 months the CIA digitized the consular archive of the Russian Federation for themselves - and only then did the originals of Russia return it. And now they will study it carefully.
          As a result of this, we are waiting on the part of Washington for new provocations around the world against Russia in the spirit of the so-called hybrid war of the United States and its satellite countries ..
          1. your1970
            your1970 24 October 2017 07: 25
            +9
            consular documents obviously do not contain state secrets (the embassy works for this) - there is an array of documents for citizens entering / leaving to / from the Russian Federation, their personal files ... Now you need to be afraid of citizens with visas - because it is not known that the USA will later recover after studying them ....
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 24 October 2017 07: 30
              +1
              your1970
              Now it is necessary to be afraid of citizens with visas - because it is not known that the USA will then graduate after studying them ....
              So that the CIA doesn’t stop it, Washington will do everything with a link to allegedly blame Russia.
              1. hrych
                hrych 24 October 2017 09: 49
                +1
                Quote: Tatiana
                So that the CIA doesn’t stop it, Washington will do everything with a link to allegedly blame Russia.

                All this is a theater and rather even a circus. All these actions are a distraction. There was no better relationship between the United States and the Russian Federation, except that with noble Roosevelt. There is a demolition of the World Order, targeted attacks are being made on its institutions.
          2. novel66
            novel66 24 October 2017 07: 30
            +7
            and I have a question - what kind of worthless consular workers do we have? it was necessary to burn the fuck archive, maybe, together with the building "so don’t get to anyone!"
            1. your1970
              your1970 24 October 2017 08: 37
              +1
              burn documents at embassies / consulates only in case of THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR.
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 24 October 2017 09: 35
                12
                Quote: your1970
                burn documents at embassies / consulates only in case of THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR.

                What was that? Honestly, the actions of the Foreign Ministry are not at all clear: they let in, they gave everything and were polite to diarrhea. It is hoped that there is a plan for the game "in the long" and the answer will be at least humiliating for amers. And for the whole world, please, together with the background: Westerners do not know why the situation is like this.
              2. Svarog51
                Svarog51 24 October 2017 09: 40
                11
                burn documents in embassies / consulates only in the event of the beginning of the war ....

                I agree, even if it is called COLD, INFORMATION or HYBRID, but such actions by the United States can only be regarded as military operations within the framework of one of the above. It is necessary to burn. IMHO.
            2. spiriolla-45
              spiriolla-45 24 October 2017 14: 58
              +2
              According to the news of that time, the consular officers burned something. Pind * s drove their firefighters and made claims of environmental pollution. In short, the circus and more. Our pugs only yap at the elephant, but they are served in the courts.
        2. Leviton
          Leviton 24 October 2017 09: 44
          12
          Yes, they are not cowards, but a completely affiliated government with respect to the United States. Everyone has money there, real estate. wife’s children and how to hit your finger? and continue to transfer state money to "partners" (probably a cunning plan for the collapse of the United States, through pumping the economy of an unfriendly government winked ) But they can express caution in the "unfriendly" step of the "partner". It seems like they should have sued ... but where is the lawsuit? about affairs and mirror responses, I’m completely silent, damn litter.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 24 October 2017 09: 59
            +9
            Quote: LevITon
            ... about cases and mirror responses, I’m completely silent ...

            Silence is right. Just according to the Russian folk ... proverb laughing
            And as for "deeds and measures" - where did you get the idea that everyone knows everything?
            They didn’t ... spoil, spoiled the people with perestroika-glasnost and other ... Russian-style democracy negative
        3. NIKNN
          NIKNN 24 October 2017 12: 50
          +3
          Quote: Black
          Disgrace! ... Cowards! ..


          Quote: Black
          Russia did not accept.

          How not to accept belay and concern, is that you? Try to take care yourself, then you will understand ...
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 24 October 2017 06: 37
      +8
      If ours left the consular archive to the Americans for "study", then it was intended to be so. hi
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      2. The black
        The black 24 October 2017 06: 42
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        If ours left the consular archive to the Americans for "study", then it was intended to be so. hi

        Question by .... smile .. it would hurt everything just was ...
      3. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 24 October 2017 08: 02
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        If ours left the consular archive to the Americans for "study", then it was meant to be

        Aha what ... Papers, sir. Papers in exchange for Yaguzhinsky wink
    3. 7gor
      7gor 24 October 2017 06: 53
      +3
      Yes, because they simply can not, Black! Where are our denyuzhki .....?
    4. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 24 October 2017 07: 45
      +6
      You asked the most pressing question. Where is the reciprocity?
      Where did she go? Why are the commissars in leather helmets and with guns breathing garlic and meth laughing , did not enter the Yekaterinburg consulate and did not violate the intimate innocence of the US consul? laughing
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 24 October 2017 08: 12
        +2
        Quote: Gormengast
        Where is the reciprocity?
        Where did she go? Why did the commissars in leather helmets and with guns, breathing garlic and denatured laughing, not enter the Yekaterinburg consulate and violate the intimate innocence of the US consul?

        I allow myself to suggest that instant mirror measures would not succeed, because The p-Soviet side had planned all its actions in advance, and had prepared its premises and employees more than carefully for the response. Maybe she even stuffed misinformation into documents that, according to the logic of things, our side should have removed for study. And then it turned out that the "program for tomorrow" is being postponed to tomorrow. Or the day after tomorrow.
        To paraphrase the classics: "Waiting for w ... worse for w ...".
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 24 October 2017 08: 42
          +6
          Quote: Polite Elk
          I allow myself to suggest that instant mirror measures would not succeed, because The p-Soviet side had planned all its actions in advance, and had prepared its premises and employees more than carefully for the response. Maybe she even stuffed misinformation into documents that, according to the logic of things, our side should have removed for study. And then it turned out that the "program for tomorrow" is being postponed to tomorrow. Or the day after tomorrow.
          To paraphrase the classics: "Waiting for w ... worse for w ...".

          Perhaps this is so, but so far it looks like our ministry of concerns is wiping their feet, having spit out before ... In my opinion, there should be a break in diplomatic relations with the expulsion of the ambassador and diplomats. Actually, they attacked our territory. to shut down all of Russia as pro-American propaganda and an encroachment on the health of the nation ...
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 24 October 2017 08: 58
            +2
            Quote: Barkhan
            But while all this looks as though they were wiping their feet on our ministry of concerns, having previously spit ...

            Emotionally - I completely agree with you. But, mind you, recently in Russian foreign policy there has been a tradition of not doing what is expected of us and doing what is not expected. Well, I suppose that the Foreign Ministry acts on the principle that “a bad world is better than a good quarrel”. Or maybe the scenario "Humiliated and Offended" is played out. P-ss "fixed the joint", and the joint is specific, but not one. Everyone sees it. All. How anyone reacts is the second question. I fully admit that in the wake of American diplomatic rudeness, it is easier for us to negotiate with Europe. Let's wait for the result.
          2. your1970
            your1970 24 October 2017 17: 53
            0
            Quote: Barkhan
            In my opinion, there should be a break in diplomatic relations with the expulsion of the ambassador and diplomats.
            - actually this is a war fool (even legal concepts), it’s easier then right away - “Let's fuck it !!” © DMB
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 24 October 2017 19: 14
              +2
              Quote: your1970
              this is actually a war

              And in your opinion, what is happening with our territory and property in the United States? In my opinion, the current situation is unacceptable and unthinkable in my country. Then what else should be endured? What kind of nonsense? It’s hard to imagine a greater shame from the inaction of the Ministry of Concern. The reason is only one. Money, children, relatives, real estate is there. Everything. Shame.
          3. Mih1974
            Mih1974 25 October 2017 06: 05
            +1
            But the closure of "tyhnililovok" fiercely support good and groans of individual "do you want to fire tens of thousands of people?" - YES, the country is full of normal cafes and eateries. And in the "nausea" and so wild staff turnover and everything there is essentially imprisoned on the slave labor of the newly hired, that is, people are "raped" during the probationary period, and then expelled. So when you close it and - neither the people will starve, and instead of this "..fna" good "feeders" will probably be opened. good drinks
        2. Gormenghast
          Gormenghast 24 October 2017 09: 23
          0
          Maybe she even stuffed misinformation into documents that, according to the logic of things, our side should have removed for study.


          The fact of the widely publicized seizure of documents - even without studying them - would have caused an unspeakable popol in the United States.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 24 October 2017 09: 17
        +2
        Quote: Gormengast
        You asked the most pressing question. Where is the reciprocity?
        Where did she go? Why are the commissars in leather helmets and with guns breathing garlic and meth laughing , did not enter the Yekaterinburg consulate and did not violate the intimate innocence of the US consul? laughing

        We are well-mannered, polite, intelligent people. We don’t like that. Cultural cultures. There were goats in Kiev, but they don’t give cabbage.
        And we are not like that, they are like that, but we are not like that ...
        1. Gormenghast
          Gormenghast 24 October 2017 09: 25
          +4
          We are well-mannered, polite, intelligent people. We don’t like that.


          This is generally becoming a problem. In Ukrostan, the embassy was attacked, cars were beaten, the flag was burned - but there is no result here. Tired of it!
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 24 October 2017 08: 20
      0
      only the “study” of the archive from “Ronald Reagan” and “Nimitz” compensates for such insults
      or
    6. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 24 October 2017 09: 54
      0
      Undoubtedly, this is open rudeness on the part of the USA. As I understand it, our diplomatic mission left, leaving an archive there, because it was not prepared for export. This should be a science for the future. And if we throw out the Americans, then we also don’t present them with a comfortable time for gatherings and departure.
      1. your1970
        your1970 24 October 2017 17: 54
        0
        them DO NOT GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW- catch the difference?
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 24 October 2017 18: 53
          +1
          Yeah. Bumbarash gobbled up a secret package so that the enemy would not get it. Are our diplomats accustomed to good food? laughing "Do you catch the difference?" laughing
          Although, they could have been destroyed in the fireplace or in the stove. The pipe then smoked for two days.
  2. assa67
    assa67 24 October 2017 06: 30
    +8
    Well, where is it, "a similar treatment with the missions" ... mirror answers ... transient trials, lawsuits .... but only for removing the state flags of all mattresses it was necessary to set
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 24 October 2017 06: 31
      +1
      At the moment no response to close the diplomatic mission and trade representation, the breakdown of flags and the actual abduction of the consulate archive Russia did not accept.
      Very sorry! Russia needed at least something specifically similar to answer!
      1. The black
        The black 24 October 2017 06: 43
        +2
        Quote: Tatiana
        At the moment no response to close the diplomatic mission and trade representation, the breakdown of flags and the actual abduction of the consulate archive Russia did not accept.
        Very sorry! Russia needed at least something specifically similar to answer!
        I remembered .... "And why did you get into a fight? Walk now in the teeth. Well, they beat a black man like a dog. They beat me ... like a puppy." sad
    2. Login_Off
      Login_Off 24 October 2017 06: 35
      +1
      I propose to remove the American flag from their diplomatic mission, turn it into a tube (and not into a triangle), pack it into the newspaper Ekho Moskvy or Pravda, and then send it by Russian Post. Lost departure in the form of a parcel in a newspaper, ask to be assessed in RUBLES.
      I wonder how much they will appreciate?
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 24 October 2017 06: 39
        0
        Usually the valuation goes in one rupee, otherwise you will have to pay extra for a valuable cargo. It is not worth more.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 24 October 2017 08: 18
        0
        Quote: Login_Off
        I propose to remove the American flag from their diplomatic mission, turn it into a tube (and not into a triangle), pack it into the newspaper Ekho Moskvy or Pravda, and then send it by Russian Post.

        Until the moment "turn into a tube" inclusive, I fully support you, but after that, I have another proposal. Forgive me the ladies present on the site.
      3. Svarog51
        Svarog51 24 October 2017 09: 47
        +8
        There is a proposal to troll - send by cash on delivery and see how much they themselves will appreciate it. They will pay 1 dollar - and we will treat him, they will pay N billion green - let's say thank you, everyone will come in handy.
        1. Login_Off
          Login_Off 24 October 2017 10: 15
          0
          This is not a problem. But I think entry to the USA will be closed immediately :)
          You can even organize a flash mob.
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  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 24 October 2017 06: 30
    +5
    Yeah, here is humiliation so humiliation, never before such chaos to the Russian diplomats. Fascist Germany in 1941. and then behaved more tsevilizovanno.A dear Mr. Antonov disappoints me!
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 24 October 2017 06: 31
    +3
    And now, if I were in power, I would file lawsuits against the United States in all international courts for one trillion euros! Or simply closed all their consulates in the country, except for one new one in Kamchatka, in an old barn swaying from the wind, and nationalized the buildings that they owned after the audit by special services and rebuilt them in kindergartens!
    1. graf1980
      graf1980 24 October 2017 07: 54
      +1
      Yes, all international courts are useless under a striped cap, but closing their representative offices would not hurt to offer either in a shed in Kamchatka, although there are more pleasant places for people like Cape Dixon, Chukotka or))) in the Crimea
  6. Baloo
    Baloo 24 October 2017 06: 39
    +8
    The negligent attitude of official Washington to international law, our diplomatic and consular objects and property has opened up the possibility of a similar treatment with US offices in Russia. According to the principle of reciprocity on which diplomatic relations are based.

    Words are not needed, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation and a taxpayer need action. angry
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 24 October 2017 06: 40
    +2
    I have little knowledge of the diplomatic protocol, but in this case there is every reason to recall the ambassador for consultations.
  8. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 24 October 2017 06: 45
    10
    Probably, as the last Chinese warning, the Russian "deepest concerns" and "regrets" will soon become synonymous with the words "helplessness", "weakness" ....
    It’s not worth it to be offended, it’s just a fact request
    1. 7gor
      7gor 24 October 2017 06: 55
      +2
      Fact! Plus
      1. Dave36
        Dave36 24 October 2017 07: 05
        +1
        Antonov turned into a doll.
        1. corporal
          corporal 24 October 2017 07: 11
          +3
          And I have long offered Zhirinovsky to become Foreign Minister - the whole world will freeze in a stupor. wink
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 24 October 2017 07: 25
            +1
            The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs had to put Shamanov !!! soldier
            1. corporal
              corporal 24 October 2017 07: 30
              0
              His language is not so "suspended" soldier
          2. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 24 October 2017 08: 00
            0
            Quote: Corporal
            And I have long offered Zhirinovsky to become Foreign Minister

            Then the Western "partners" would learn about themselves a lot of interesting things at the official level laughing
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 24 October 2017 08: 20
            +1
            Quote: Corporal
            And I have long offered Zhirinovsky to become Foreign Minister - the whole world will freeze in a stupor. wink

            Is not a fact. So far we know Zhirinovsky only by his PR chatter from the stands. And what kind of business does he have that can confirm his performances? Tryndet, as they say, - do not unload wagons.
          4. Baloo
            Baloo 24 October 2017 09: 18
            +2
            Quote: Corporal
            And I have long offered Zhirinovsky to become Foreign Minister - the whole world will freeze in a stupor. wink

            It is high time to build everyone from south-north to east-west. This task can be done only by such a giant of thought as Zhirinovsky. Nobody but him, nobody, never ...
    2. Chestnut
      Chestnut 24 October 2017 11: 38
      +1
      Yes gentlemen, in what weak country we live, this would not have happened with the USSR, for the country was independent.
      We depend on imports, this is our Achilles heel.
      30000 American soldiers in South Korea, + pro system, + strategic weapons - we are politely silent.
      Airplanes are scouts at our borders - we are silent.
      75 helicopters in Latvia, we are silent.
      The pro system in Poland, the renewal of American nuclear weapons in Gkrmania, the division near Kaliningrad, our planes are shooting down, and we ....
      You can’t talk with a wolf, either kick or shoot.
      1. your1970
        your1970 24 October 2017 17: 58
        +1
        Airplanes are scouts at our borders - we are silent.- nothing that reconnaissance aircraft THROUGH The USSR flew for three years - until Powers was shot down .... A lot then the US USSR kicked / shot ???
  9. AVGUST
    AVGUST 24 October 2017 07: 12
    +7
    Revenge, this is a dish served cold, I strongly hope that our intelligence will work well, and when the documents that "interest" us appear in their consulate, then this act of "restriction of access" must be carried out, and then "examine" this archive and put up as evidence to the world community, but it makes no sense to grab “toilet” paper, just run into saliva spraying from mattress mongrels, this is below our dignity ....
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 24 October 2017 08: 08
      +2
      Revenge is a dish served cold
      And that’s right, wait fifty years and take revenge.
  10. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 07: 37
    0
    My proposal to raze the US Embassy to the ground no longer seems so radical.
    1. AVGUST
      AVGUST 24 October 2017 08: 25
      0
      Well, why so radical, I don’t think this property will be superfluous, to create a leper colony there, for example, or a clinic for the mentally ill, ....... a good joke for “sworn friends” is also useful
  11. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 24 October 2017 07: 49
    0
    I hope the one who invented and implemented this will give the Hero of Russia?
    I hope we don’t find out about this.
    This is genius!
    1. AVGUST
      AVGUST 24 October 2017 08: 12
      0
      Most likely this should happen before the presidential election, there’s no point in waiting any longer, we really will look pale like the boys at school, with whom the hooligans spat in the back .....
      1. quote
        quote 24 October 2017 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: AVGUST
        Most likely this should happen before the presidential election, there’s no point in waiting any longer, we really will look pale like the boys at school, with whom the hooligans spat in the back .....

        Russia is suing an American court. And this is the wisest and most correct decision for today. Why? Yes, because any, (private property), court decision in favor of Russia. If the law is violated, violators are held accountable, if not, Russia has the right to behave identically. All!
        1. Victor-M
          Victor-M 24 October 2017 11: 46
          0
          Quote: devis
          Quote: AVGUST
          Most likely this should happen before the presidential election, there’s no point in waiting any longer, we really will look pale like the boys at school, with whom the hooligans spat in the back .....

          Russia is suing an American court. And this is the wisest and most correct decision for today. Why? Yes, because any, (private property), court decision in favor of Russia. If the law is violated, violators are held accountable, if not, Russia has the right to behave identically. That's it!

          I agree! yes hi
  12. nikolaev
    nikolaev 24 October 2017 07: 50
    +1
    the days of the presidential election in Russia are coming. It is very interesting to see how the United States does not interfere in this election. The actions of the United States at the Russian Consulate in San Francisco are an invitation to a partner and friend to fulfill such a desire.
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  14. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 24 October 2017 07: 55
    +2
    So screw up karma!
    And demanders.
    Back in school, it made sense to give change right away. The counterparty is not yet developed and hormonal dependent. And in the adult world, they think a lot at first.
    Although to whom I am writing this ...
    1. AVGUST
      AVGUST 24 October 2017 08: 21
      0
      Let's hope that our people have enough endurance and ability to put a “fork” using a chess formulation, and not “open the defense”, forming “gaps in our defense”
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 24 October 2017 08: 53
      +5
      That's it, IMMEDIATELY to give back ... a question of honor or survival.
      Only this is all worth considering in the PERSONAL aspect.
      When the question is not about personal topics, and interstate relations are not related to those, one must think, however. Of course, it’s a shame for the state ... but instead of carrying out a "mosquito bite" for the sake of an overly excitable crowd, it’s worth considering and realizing a real / tangible answer.
      I won’t argue that our politicians / rich "are one-oiled" with their opponents ... I will not. This is the truth.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 October 2017 08: 22
    0
    only a few weeks later, the American authorities deigned to return the archive of the Russian consulate in San Francisco

    Humiliated as they could and possibly (given our faith in international law) Something profitable. Will we continue to wipe the snot under international law?
  16. Pacifist
    Pacifist 24 October 2017 08: 34
    0
    I have only one question. And how long will we endure this der? Is it time to close the consulate in Eburg after giving them 12 hours to vacate the premises?
  17. captain
    captain 24 October 2017 08: 47
    +1
    All this reminds me of Tolstoy; hit one cheek, turn the other.
  18. jonht
    jonht 24 October 2017 08: 59
    0
    I would bring the situation to a complete impasse, namely the closure of all consulates and the recall of our ambassador with the complete expulsion of all US diplomats. At the same time, I would not touch the ambassadors from the UN, all the same, although they are in the FSA, they are located in the UN.
    And after that, build diplomatic relations from scratch.
  19. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 October 2017 09: 03
    +1
    Well, where is the mirror response of Moscow?
  20. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 24 October 2017 09: 22
    0
    Is Russia already leaving this insult without consequences? An act worthy of declaring war, well, at the worst — a break in diplomatic relations and, at the same time, a rout of Amer’s bases in Syria.
    1. S-kerrigan
      S-kerrigan 24 October 2017 10: 45
      +2
      What kind of bullshit are we writing? Ready to fly into the trenches on the IL? And not to fly, but to be shot down.
      Have you asked your neighbor? Does he want the same? Your desires are more important than the desires of your fellow tribesman? Actually, almost all comments are a vivid illustration of "head - I eat it ... and beat, then eat again."

      When it comes to the inhabitants of the portal that "they" (overseas) are stupidly bullying as they can. Already beg for otvetku. For this is precisely what they need in this tactical situation.
      1. bratchanin3
        bratchanin3 24 October 2017 11: 11
        +2
        My desire, this is my opinion and I express it! And in your hysterical tirade, I did not find a single rational meaning, except fear and the desire to wipe off the American spit, than to get an answer, you are our cautious tactician.
        1. S-kerrigan
          S-kerrigan 25 October 2017 04: 55
          +1
          Your hysterical tirade

          If you see my message only in the spirit of a hysterical tirade, then this is your problem. I have a poker interface.
          Now in essence - if we were in one place and if we had a situation of "open fire or not," I would liquidate you myself: there is nothing to inflate a real war because of the inferiority complex, compare it to yours. For no one is obliged to dance under them. And suffer because of this. People have a life (yes, I'm talking about Russians, if they did not understand). And you do not have a single gram of the right to select it with your actions.
          1. bratchanin3
            bratchanin3 25 October 2017 10: 49
            0
            Those like you, for their homeland and idea, do not suffer and do not die, they run as they fled from the Donbass, saving themselves and their children. Perhaps such should be in our unjust world. But there are those like Motorola, whom the people will always remember. The world is beautiful in diversity, someone flies in the clouds, and someone crawls in manure and glorifies his dung slurry. And anyway, I'm not interested in you.
      2. your1970
        your1970 24 October 2017 18: 06
        +1
        it’s just that no one understood that there was some benefit to us. We have elections on the nose + now our hands are a little untied in relation to American diplomats. Watch your fingers - we can now, before the elections, for example, drastically limit the number of visitors to the US embassies / consulates, limit their trips, but you never know what restrictive it would be, there would be a desire. And besides, we are waiting for court decisions, it can also be very useful us..
  21. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 24 October 2017 10: 21
    +2
    Quote: Polite Elk
    I fully admit that in the wake of American diplomatic rudeness, it is easier for us to negotiate with Europe

    Well, yes ... Well, yes ... but in the wake of Ukrainian rudeness it is easier for us to negotiate with the Baltic states, and in the wake of Baltic rudeness it is easier for us to negotiate with Poland, and in the wake of Polish rudeness it is easier for us to negotiate with the Americans, and in the wake. ..
    So, constantly spat upon, you just lead and lead and negotiate .. Partners, sir!
  22. solovald
    solovald 24 October 2017 10: 23
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    Could the archival docks of the consulate, which are probably under the stamp, have not been prepared for destruction in cases like this ??? It seems that this department is still largely represented by Kozyrev-Ivanovo cadres, and stripping is required.
  23. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 11: 29
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    Quote: AVGUST
    Well, why so radical, I don’t think this property will be superfluous, to create a leper colony there, for example, or a clinic for the mentally ill, ....... a good joke for “sworn friends” is also useful

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    It is unlikely that the building is a hidden radar. It is so full of equipment for eavesdropping, scanning, reading, monitoring.
  24. Altona
    Altona 24 October 2017 11: 31
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    Quote: S-Kerrigan
    What kind of bullshit are we writing? Ready to fly into the trenches on the IL? And not to fly, but to be shot down.

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    In diplomacy, there is the principle of reciprocity, so nothing is so radical.
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 24 October 2017 11: 36
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    Quote: siberalt
    If ours left the consular archive to the Americans for "study", then it was intended to be so. hi

    Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh bully How can you reveal the terrible "bourgeois secret" ?! belay
  26. stolz
    stolz 24 October 2017 12: 18
    +3
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    US returns consular archive of Russia after “careful study”
    - After such actions, the ETU will not be called a “cultural” language.

    And after that, will our country be called independent and sovereign?
  27. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 24 October 2017 12: 19
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    swollen to the root !!! and ours is something ??? only mirrored, then they will begin to respect.
  28. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 October 2017 12: 32
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    Yeah ... a vile story! If the non-people scream that Russian interference in the elections (moreover, by no one and proved nothing) is almost a declaration of war on our part, then excuse me, but what is this?
  29. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 October 2017 12: 35
    +2
    Quote: poplar 7
    swollen to the root !!! and ours is something ??? only mirrored, then they will begin to respect.

    Mirror, this is when I looked and saw! And not once, he looked, but the reflection came in six months! Our Foreign Ministry confuse concepts ...
  30. Will
    Will 24 October 2017 12: 36
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    At the moment, Russia has not accepted any response to the closure of the diplomatic mission and the trade mission, the collapse of the flags and the actual abduction of the consulate’s archive.

    Are we still hoping that "they" are able to understand something else but power? am
  31. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 October 2017 12: 41
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    Quote: Nemesis
    Well, where is the mirror response of Moscow?

    Chubais with Kudrin and Co. stole a Nano-Mirror!
  32. hohkn
    hohkn 24 October 2017 14: 36
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    At the moment, Russia has not accepted any response to the closure of the diplomatic mission and the trade mission, the collapse of the flags and the actual abduction of the consulate’s archive.

    And completely in vain. “The answer must be instantaneous and mirrored” (c) V. Putin
    Why don't they do it?
    Striped our documents studied so much time. It’s time for our special services to rummage in the documents of the “partners”.
    1. Sharansky
      Sharansky 24 October 2017 15: 31
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      Quote: hohkn
      Why don't they do it?

      because they are waiting for February 2 that will be. Reduce hiding
  33. spiriolla-45
    spiriolla-45 24 October 2017 14: 52
    +3
    As they were, they remained. As our guarantor does not pout, but everything is poked in the mud with a face.
  34. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 24 October 2017 15: 03
    +2
    And we are constantly blowing ears about Putin's successes in the foreign policy arena! And our power only threatens with a finger, puffs out the cheeks and the tails of Americans in our pseudo-political television programs. Ay-yay = yay! They say you can’t be bad!
  35. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 24 October 2017 15: 13
    +2
    I’m letting us down as they want, but we are only worried. Watching puke is disgusting.
  36. Old military officer
    Old military officer 24 October 2017 19: 49
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    Quote: Black
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    Disgrace! ... Cowards! ..

    You can already evaluate the actions of Russia. Your right. But try to imagine and understand who the shot is and what the target should feel, which necessarily understands that it is the target. How does she feel? She is waiting and waiting. And the whole world is watching and grinning maliciously about USA Coolness.
  37. Berkut24
    Berkut24 24 October 2017 20: 55
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    The US speaks openly - there are no more diplomatic rules. Our good guys still believe that there is.
  38. 1536
    1536 25 October 2017 05: 22
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    Soon, the US embassy will arrange provocations, or even worse, in Moscow and other Russian cities. They are already preparing for this, not even hiding it. So what? Will our government be inactive, hoping for the decency and common sense of our citizens? Something it reminds, somewhere it already was. And it ended badly.
  39. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 25 October 2017 08: 17
    +1
    Defendants, do you have any experience working in the Foreign Ministry? Foreign Ministry Teach You How To Do Your Work? Not!? So why are you climbing into an area beyond your competence?
  40. 1536
    1536 25 October 2017 11: 02
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    Quote: ADmA_RUS
    Defendants, do you have any experience working in the Foreign Ministry? Foreign Ministry Teach You How To Do Your Work? Not!? So why are you climbing into an area beyond your competence?

    Dear, there is common sense in relations between countries and governments. Now this common sense is absent from both sides. And beautiful words like "competency", the meaning of which you do not know, are not appropriate here.
    1. ADmA_RUS
      ADmA_RUS 26 October 2017 22: 46
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      Common sense, not exact wording. Do you have examples of international treaties where to use it?