RD-180. About rocket streams of lies

I don’t know if anyone noticed or not, but we had another event like “bloody gebni” with mass executions of visitors. From visiting the site was denied to several readers at once who had embarked on the path of spitting on everything they could reach. Half - under the American flag.

But not in the flag of the case, and from among the owners of the Russian tricolor there was a certain amount of fiercely plus.

It was, as the name implies, about the RD-180 engine. And about the little article of intelligent Andrei Shipilov, who, in his libel, posted by former readers in the comments, told the “truth” about this engine.

Well, let's go and dot the Latin letter. To make it clear why "the people suffered."

So, the RD-180 rocket engine - whose is it? Russian or American?

If by Shipilov, then American.

“The times in Russia were hard, I had to dump. But most importantly, Energomash had a good start. In order to get the engine with the necessary characteristics of the Americans, it was only necessary to “halve” the existing engine from the Energia rocket, to make instead of four cameras only two.

As a result, “Energomash” “developed” the necessary engine, which was named RD-180, transferred all rights and all documentation for its production to the Americans, and those, in accordance with the terms of the tender, placed the production of the engine in Russia at Energomash plants, because there there was all the necessary technological equipment. "

As is well known, the best lie is where there is a piece of truth. So is Shipilov, who is ready to do anything, just to spit in the direction of Russia.

"So all American 5 Atlas now have a first stage equipped with a Pratt & Whitney RD-180 engine, which is assembled in Russia."

To begin with, the co-manufacturer RD-180 is indeed considered “Pratt & Whitney” to comply with US law. Shipilov deliberately missed the word "joint", and I emphasized it.

Engine manufacturer - NPO "Energomash". And "Pratt & Whitney" is not worth it here, since 100% of the engine is assembled in Russia and from Russian materials.

The sale of RD-180 was carried out by the joint venture Pratt & Whitney and NPO Energomash, called the RD-Amros Joint Venture (RD-AMROSS). Sale.

Purchase and installation were made by the United Launch Alliance. This is Boeing + Lockheed. And yes, ULA has the exclusive right to install RD-180 in the USA.

As for the “transfer of all rights and all documentation,” which, according to Shipilov, make the RD-180 an American engine, which is only being assembled in Russia.

We dealt with the rights: РД-180 is an export version, which was created for Atlas and can be operated only on it with the participation of the ULA alliance.

Technical documentation has indeed been transferred. But not because it was “in a hurry for USAE”. As part of the production license valid before 2030, the Americans had every right to release this engine in their country. But they could not.

And this is not the price. Although the price too. The point is in the standards (there is probably no need to explain the difference) in force in countries. Even the threads are different. The point is in the materials.

All these arguments in favor of the poor about the fact that "in the US there is everything, just to buy in poor Russia is cheaper," is overboard. A dollar bet is a good move, I don’t argue. However, why then, despite McCain’s howls and the senator’s demands, urgently send RD-180 to the landfill stories and equip the rocket "their" engines did not work?

And there is nothing. And the point.

And 21 has already passed a year since the moment of the conclusion of the contract, but they have not yet created their own LRE in the USA. Still unprofitable? Even with all the documentation?

Or maybe because, in accordance with the Soviet canons, we make rocket technology all over the country? Yes, a complete assembly is made at NPO Energomash. And the combustion chambers are supplied from Samara, special steel comes from Chelyabinsk.

Is Samara in Oklahoma? And Chelyabinsk - in Idaho? Are these also Pratt & Whitney businesses? Apparently not. And this is the same pebble that prevented the Americans from simply starting their own RD-180.

Those who hate our country will, of course, begin to speak on the topic that "everyone can do there, they just don’t want to." Even as they want. But they can not. The Chinese would also be happy to sell their copies of the Sushka, and they would buy them from them. But the turbines could not be a mess.

It's all the same here.

The Americans have their own LRE, and they use them. Not often, but used. The same Delta-4. Because again, the issue price / quality.

So why RD-180 could not be recreated in American factories? Americans can't do anything with a combustion chamber. This is the main achievement of the Russian technology. In one such chamber with a diameter of just 380, millimeters burns about 600 kg of fuel per second.

This camera is a unique equipment with special protection belts from powerful heat flows. Protection is carried out not only due to external cooling of the chamber walls, but also due to the original method of “lining” the fuel film on them, which, evaporating, cools the wall.

And Shipilov says that for the production of such engines it is necessary to recreate outdated technologies. Well, well ... We work out the "lick" in full.

“RD-180 is a very good engine, but it is already very outdated, for its production it will be necessary to revive technologies that have been abandoned all over the world for a long time. Science and technology are not standing still, and in the USA there are a lot of companies that can do what is required, much better, much faster and most importantly - already much cheaper compared to Energomash.

What can I say? Applause. It turns out that the whole world has gone so far in its development that for the production of rocket engines it is even necessary to revive outdated technologies. I wonder how?

This is how I basically understand that at the 21 factory of the century it is quite possible to manufacture cars of the middle of the 20. But not the other way around. At VAZ in 1980, to assemble "Kalina" is unlikely. And then about the same situation.

What ancient technologies would have to be revived in order to adjust the release of the RD-180 in the USA - this is a mystery covered in darkness.

Well, the epic final from Shipilov:

“In short, it turned out that the RD-180 is no longer needed.

Therefore, General Dynamic held a new tender, which was won by two US companies. United Launch Services, which, starting from 2019, will begin to supply the Vulcan BE-4 engine, which will replace the RD-180. And Aerojet Rocketdyne, which will develop the next generation of fundamentally new engines, which in turn will replace the Vulcan BE-4.

Well, to make it clear what happened, I will mention only one detail - the entire contract with United Launch Services costs 46 million dollars - this is the cost of only five RD-180.

And the US Congress, in order to insure itself and create a reserve for the transitional period, allowed Energomash to release more 18 units RD-180. The latest RD-180 in history. "

Great, huh? The US Congress allowed Energomash ... Well, well.

Although what else can you expect from a hypocrite and a liar based in Cyprus?

It would be very curious to see at least one link (it doesn’t matter what language) apart from the unfounded reasoning where it would be told about the ownership of the Pratt & Whitney company to the RD-180 engine. And about the PERMISSION from the US Congress for Energomash.


1. Since the United States was actually screwed up with the production of LRE, then Pratt & Whitney bought the right to use the Russian FH-180 in the United States.

2. American firms have also purchased the right to manufacture RD-180 in the United States. We look at section 1 and we understand that we screwed up two times.

3. The RD-180 engine was developed by Russian engineers based on the Soviet RD-170 engine.

4. RD-180 produced exclusively in Russia, Russian hands and from Russian materials. The only material that the United States provides is the dollars for which the RD-180 is produced.

5. From points 3 and 4 it follows that this is a Russian engine. The United States in general, and Pratt & Whitney in particular, can go with their rights to the RD-180, if only because the next generation of engines has already been developed.

6. In the United States today, titanic efforts are being made to get away from Russian dependence in middle starts.
Blue Origin introduced the new engine, BE-4, which is expected to replace the RD-180 with 2020 of the year.

The key word is presumed. If it works as it should - we'll see.

ULA announced the successful promotion of work on the creation of analogue RD-180.

No question, even 13 years of quiet work, maybe that will burn out. Production of two nodes have already mastered, well done.

Aerojet Rocketdyne conducted the first fire tests of the prechambers of its AR1 engine.

The pre-chamber is not the entire engine.

In general, of course, the Americans will create their own liquid-propellant rocket engine on methane or kerosene. The whole question is how soon.

It is doubtful that a 5 unit of RD-180 units is a panacea. And what's more, we know how in America everything is going up closer to the final. Proved by "Raptor" and "Lightning".

So let's see how it all comes true.

Returning to the beginning. Dear lovers of quotes and applause for foreign residents spitting in the direction of Russia! You were mistaken, this is somewhat not the place where you can do this. And you do not belong here, alas.

We are still able to defend what was created in our country by the minds and hands of our compatriots. And with a crash to throw out those who want to humiliate everything Soviet and Russian. Reasonable discussion and criticism is normal, quoting spikes are moveton. As well as attempts to prove to us the primordial wretchedness and secondary importance.

Take note, gentlemen. Comrades can not worry.

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