North Korea has a second submarine with a ballistic missile

American intelligence discovered a second combat submarine in the North Korean port, equipped with an intercontinental ballistic missile, The Diplomat reported. US satellite photographed the submarine at the pier.

The picture was taken on April 15, however, it became known only now. Until now, according to open source data, North Korea had one ship equipped with a ballistic missile. This is a diesel-electric submarine with a displacement of 1,7 of thousands of tons, which received the name Gorae-B in NATO.

The new ship, according to US intelligence, has a number of improvements - in particular, its hull is built of lighter composite materials, which expands the range of the submarine. The submarine was called Gorae-S.

North Korean submarines are armed with a medium-range solid-fuel ballistic missile Pukguksong-1. In April, 2016, Gorae-B, successfully launched a rocket from under water. The range of the Pukguksong-1 is estimated at 1250-2500 kilometers, the missile can carry a nuclear warhead.

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[210ox]

The second submarine with missiles? The main thing is that their leader does not go anywhere. And then the CIA throws suspicious comments at something ..

[reservist]

The main thing is that their leader does not go anywhere

The leader himself will personally lead the submarine and ballistic missile launch in the United States.
It will disappear only for a while ...

[Logall]

Quote: reservist

It will disappear only for a while ...

But there will be nowhere to return!

[reservist]

Life must be lived so that it is not excruciatingly painful for years spent aimlessly ...

[Logall]

Yes, but this does not mean that the whole North Korean people need to be brought under the knives!

[reservist]

While the "boss" is absent to quickly hold a referendum
and join South Korea

[Logall]

And upon arrival, proclaim him Lord of All Korea?

[Pirogov]

Quote: reservist

While the "boss" is absent to quickly hold a referendum
and join South Korea

Tell this to the students of South Korea, Eun is very popular among them, unlike their own government and president.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: reservist

While the "boss" is absent to quickly hold a referendum
and join South Korea

It smacks of treason, with all the ensuing consequences. And North Koreans will never want to lie under the minke whales.

[IL-18]

About smells. And how to read the name of the missile PAKGAKSON or PUKGUKSONG? Do you have linguists?

[reservist]

After death, North Koreans always go to heaven!
Even if it's hell

[Partyzan]

Quote: reservist

Even if it's hell

but this is not always

[Cutter]

but this is not always

Again for the old ??? Change your profession ....

[Partyzan]

Quote: Cutter

Change your profession ....

I will not

[Cutter]

A "naughty" employee of something, at least a candidate for the special forces of the Moscow Region. Sincerely, Volodya!

[Partyzan]

Quote: Cutter

at least a candidate for special forces of the Moscow Region

was there

[hrych]

They killed Great Ira with cancer, as did Chavez. They could get to Ira and infect only through the Chinese. Eun will take this into account, and getting to him will no longer be possible on this side. But we need an heir, Kim, worthy of a grandfather.

[210ox]

Through the Chinese? Noodles or something, with flavorings in bags? I agree, the poison is still ..

Quote: hrych

They killed Great Ira with cancer, as did Chavez. They could get to Ira and infect only through the Chinese. Eun will take this into account, and getting to him will no longer be possible on this side. But we need an heir, Kim, worthy of a grandfather.

[hrych]

Through Chinese doctors most likely. In August 2008, Kim Jong Il suffered a stroke and was treated by Chinese doctors. In October, he had already begun work. He recovered from a stroke, but suddenly died of cancer in 2011, three years and four months after a stroke.

[210ox]

I do not exclude. Moreover, my comment on sarcasmo

Quote: hrych

Through Chinese doctors most likely. In August 2008, Kim Jong Il suffered a stroke and was treated by Chinese doctors. In October, he had already begun work. He recovered from a stroke, but suddenly died of cancer in 2011, three years and four months after a stroke.

[NIKNN]

Quote: 210ox

And then something the CIA throws suspicious comments ..

They take on a show off ..., touch their leader, they will conquer the USA with a rake and pitchfork ...., well, or they will die from tears from dehydration in the sense of ...

[novel66]

one boat with one rocket? what are her chances? even after 300 - doubtful

[NIKNN]

Quote: novel xnumx

one boat with one rocket? what are her chances? even after 300 - doubtful

To be honest, neither the 1st nor the 2nd boat, even from the port water area, has no chance of getting out ...

[novel66]

dirtied there all around

[NIKNN]

Quote: novel xnumx

dirtied there all around

[DEPARTMENT]

The flight range of Pukguksong-1 is estimated at 1250-2500 kilometers, the missile can carry a nuclear warhead.

It is time to start negotiating on the equal gentlemen of the DPRK .. Stop whining and yelling! Otherwise, the DPRK will develop something else ..!
You slept gentlemen, both Russia and the DPRK .. A MULTIPOLAR WORLD, as Putin predicted already exists!

[210ox]

Only while Russia is not one of the poles. The economy does not allow. Or rather the socio-political system ..

Quote: DEPARTMENT

The flight range of Pukguksong-1 is estimated at 1250-2500 kilometers, the missile can carry a nuclear warhead.

It is time to start negotiating on the equal gentlemen of the DPRK .. Stop whining and yelling! Otherwise, the DPRK will develop something else ..!
You slept gentlemen, both Russia and the DPRK .. A MULTIPOLAR WORLD, as Putin predicted already exists!

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: 210ox

Only while Russia is not one of the poles. The economy does not allow. Or rather the socio-political system ..

Well, I don’t know, Russia is accused of putting pressure on the presidential elections in many countries ... I don’t even remember such a thing even in Soviet times! And an economy with our enormous resources and territory ... The ruble must be gold, tell me at least one country with its currency, where such collateral is real and not blown out like a dollar, euro, etc.
And whoever owns the information, owns the world .. And even this is good in Russia, according to old ties .. That's why they hate Russia and want to destroy the West!

[Partyzan]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

The ruble should be gold

[DEPARTMENT]

Russia imposed sanctions against the DPRK! Remember the men ..?

Some of them were full of joy .. he he

[Partyzan]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Some of them were full of joy .. he he

and I rejoiced - sanctions, however, I imposed - a year later, when all that was needed was put forward for eleven years, and everything was right

[Cutter]

Oh, why hasn’t it been heard since April? And yesterday, the US President said "... you will not believe how we are ready, how we are ready, you will not believe ..." ????
A fortunate state, in connection with the understanding of the impossibility (now) to strike any blow ...

[Zibelew]

Hello Alexander It seems that the Yankees are serious about setting up a massacre in Korea and sit out overseas. And innocent people will suffer. The DPRK is not hostile to Russia, but even to the contrary, sanctions are imposed on them only because they want to protect themselves. Because only the presence of nuclear weapons is an argument in the modern world.

[Cutter]

Quote: Zibelew

Hello Alexander It seems that the Yankees are serious about setting up a massacre in Korea and sitting out overseas. And innocent people will suffer. The DPRK is not hostile to Russia, but even to the contrary, sanctions are imposed on them only because they want to protect themselves. Because only the presence of nuclear weapons is an argument in the modern world.

Tagiryan, my dear! Yes, they will now listen to RUSSIA, they have already shown that - ss ... unfortunately, the latest performances of GDP - what is not an indicator ???
The mattress was "blown away" ... But EUN is not afraid of them, they are his ...

[Zibelew]

Alexander, it’s good if the Yankees confine themselves to words regarding the DPRK. If one missile with a nuclear charge (delivered by a submarine) hits Los Angeles or another similar city on the coast, the Yankees will receive millions of dead. And Eunu has nothing to lose.

[zoolu350]

Have you definitely watched that performance of GDP? There phrases were of the type: "Could you imagine that the secondary school removed the flags from the diplomatic missions during the Soviet era?" and "In those days, there was more respect for each other," that is, he signed the weakness and wretchedness of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. Although for what the Fed owners with such a miserable line of behavior respect the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.

[hrych]

On the contrary, the United States did not stoop to such petty dirty tricks. A disgrace. Go and bend the RF by force, but no, the strength is not enough, let's fight with rags and whine plaintively for retaliatory measures, like Maksus. After all, protesters around the world burned striped rags in hundreds of tons, if not more, but from impotence.

[zoolu350]

If the crowd burns enemy flags and wipes their feet about them - this is powerlessness. If state the authorities of one country break the flags of another - this is a direct insult. School did not fall before the war with the flags of the USSR, because they knew that the answer would follow immediately. Soon we will discuss the news about the new “victory” of the Russian oligarchy. Mattresses service documents from the seized buildings were dumped in the Russian Embassy, ​​as waste paper. So think about how you will whitewash the next HPP.

[hrych]

All intelligence and political provocations are built around the American embassy, ​​we initially have a different specificity of work. Therefore, even if the embassy is completely closed, it will not hurt us, the problems of our citizens who have real estate in the United States all the more so. Well, we’ll send another 150 prisoners, well, there will be no one to feed Navalny. Who is worse?

[zoolu350]

So far, the Russian people are worse because the country’s honor is hurt, and the Russian oligarchy bleats as "suffered".

[hrych]

Quote: zoolu350

While the Russian people are worse because the country’s honor is hurt

What is this Believe me, the diplomatic corps receives money that you did not dream of. Do not be sad about them, their mansions, expensive cars and super-duper heifers. I absolutely do not care about this story, even though I consider myself a patriot, and I try to serve my motherland modestly and feasibly

[Partyzan]

Sanya

Quote: Cutter

Oh, why hasn’t it been heard since April? And yesterday, the US President said "... you will not believe how we are ready, how we are ready, you will not believe ..." ????

didn’t believe

[Partyzan]

Quote: 210ox

Second missile submarine

a little wrong the second sub with a rocket - one rocket

[Slovak]

She must be standing on the roads in the Potomac in a state of readiness for launching missiles!

[Pan_hrabio]

Second submarine with missiles?

Rocket)

the second combat submarine equipped with an intercontinental ballistic missile

[Deep Red]

The Americans scared Fidel Castro for several decades, and he safely outlived all US presidents and CIA directors!

[Wolka]

good lash for annoying yankees ...

[Logall]

Whip, but you need a club! True and Eun is not going to stop ...

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Logall

Whip, but you need a club! True and Eun is not going to stop ...

North Korea and a couple of missiles will be enough with nuclear weapons ... Nobody will touch them.! It's time to start negotiating on equal terms ..
You spanked North Korea! (while sponsoring Ukraine and the bombing of Donbass ..)
Here is a lesson for future use!

[padded jacket]

Well done, they strengthen the country's defense capability, which is not out of place against the background of threats of Trump who has completely lost all sense of peace and reality.
I think they finally finally tortured this long-standing project with three BR

[Settlement Oparyshev]

The name PukGukSong was clearly chosen by Eun himself.

[Herculesic]

Even under severe economic sanctions, the North Koreans continue to improve their defense — the army and navy! Honestly, well done! !!

[reservist]

under severe economic sanctions, the North Koreans continue to improve their defense - the army and navy

There is someone to take an example!!!
The Soviet Union after the war, in the conditions of severe devastation, managed to recover and improve its army.
After the "victory of the shit-democracy", Russia is also successfully restoring its Army and Navy.
Does the West understand this?

[Neputin]

And why do you admire North Korea. but do not admire the USSR, which for 70 years of its existence lived and worked under the economic ones. political and military sanctions. The same goes for Koreans. yes, they don’t eat up, but they know why. In the same way, in the USSR people did not live well, but for what they knew they lived and worked for. Unlike today.

[pvv113]

US intelligence discovered in the North Korean port a second combat submarine

The White House has not become more fun

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

The White House has not become more fun

Volodya want to say - are they sad?

[pvv113]

Hello! In my opinion, they were so sad with North Korea

[pvv113]

Let them be sad - we have more fun

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

Let them be sad - we have more fun

thats exactly what I mean

[pvv113]

Let's wait for the next surprises from Comrade Eun!

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

Let's wait for the next surprises from Comrade Eun!

totally agree

[Livonetc]

It is not known whether Koreans have a nuclear warhead at all.
But this is also a deterrent.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Livonetc

It is not known whether Koreans have a nuclear warhead at all.

More than once information came across that in 93 Koreans purchased from us two nuclear submarines of project 667A.
But either it’s a bluff, or they hide them well.

[padded jacket]

Quote: WUA 518

More than once information came across that in 93 Koreans purchased from us two nuclear submarines of project 667A.

This is highly doubtful.
But the data that the DPRK acquired several hulls (without missiles) of the diesel-electric submarine of Project 629 Golf after the USSR “collapsed” is quite possible.
The first launch of a BR with Sinpo submarines.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: WUA 518

that in 93 Koreans bought from us two nuclear submarines of project 667A.

Hello, Alexander. D. Koretsky has a story in a series about the KGB general Verlinov. But there, in the end, the boat was hijacked by bandits in BV. Ours, of course, won in the end ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Hello, Alexander.

Hi Stas. In the 90s, a lot of fun was happening. Under Moscow, they privatized a factory for repairing and finalizing tractor equipment. They began to disassemble the warehouse, and under the rubble of the boxes they found a brand new T-72, filled with batteries, thank God they unloaded the ammunition. So under the conditions that bacchanalia you will believe in anything.

[San Sanych]

Quote: Livonetc

It is not known whether Koreans have a nuclear warhead at all.
But this is also a deterrent.

why is it unknown? perhaps rather the opposite, just the same

[San Sanych]

it would be nice to equip this submarine with a nuclear power plant and a silent mover but North Koreans will solve this problem

[lance]

it’s true, that's why I am laughing at two boats every time. what will be the surprise of amers about torpedoes with yab

[Doliva63]

And how did they see a rocket there? No, of course, I am happy for Eun, but I would like proof. And how chemical assad Assad and test tubes with it is not clear what.

[Svarog51]

Valentine

but I would like evidence

How many intelligence has your question joined?

[Old26]

Quote: quilted jacket

I think they finally finally tortured this long-standing project with three BR

Hardly, comrade.
To begin with, the DPRK planned to build up to 3 boats of the type that they have, but the EMNIP first launch was supposed to be somewhere in 2019. After that, until 2028-2030, they planned to build from 3 to 6 boats with three shafts.
It is possible that this is just a modernized Sinpo boat. (Gorae-class), but already under the rocket Pakkuksong-3. By the way, even the boat that made the last launches Baekkuksonga 1 different from what it was before. Due to one of the failures, the cabin was damaged, which was then slightly changed.

Then a little annoying phrase

The new ship, according to U.S. intelligence, has a number of improvements - in particular, its body is made of lighter composite materials

Frankly, for the first time I hear that composite materials were used in boats of such a displacement. As part of a durable case? lung? While there are no comparative characteristics, at least in terms of size and displacement, we can say that this expands the range of the submarineI think it’s not worth it

Quote: 210ox

Second submarine with missiles?

If the second, then like the first - with a rocket, and not with rockets ...

[lance]

lungs is not only a compass. based on the latest data there is titanium.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Old26

Hardly, comrade.
To begin with, the DPRK planned to build up to 3 boats of the type that they have, but the EMNIP first launch was supposed to be somewhere in 2019. After that, until 2028-2030, they planned to build from 3 to 6 boats with three shafts.

Of course, judging by the cabin, it’s unlikely to be the same size as on the first boat, but still I want to be happy for them.

Quote: article
The new ship, according to US intelligence, has a number of improvements - in particular, its hull is built of lighter composite materials, which expands the range of the submarine. The submarine was called Gorae-S.

If it’s interesting here, an article in English about this boat is more detailed.
The Sinpo-C-Class: A New North Korean Ballistic Missile Submarine Is Under Construction

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/the-sinpo-c-class
-a-new-north-korean-ballistic-missile-submarine-i
s-under-construction /

[Old26]

Quote: WUA 518

More than once information came across that in 93 Koreans purchased from us two nuclear submarines of project 667A.
But either it’s a bluff, or they hide them well.

This is a bluff. I completely agree with the comrade here padded jacket. But the fact that there were “rumors” that the DPRK acquired several hulls (without missiles) of the diesel-electric submarine of Project 629 Golf after the USSR “crash” - this is quite possible.
With nuclear missiles - everything is more complicated there. Under contracts, we (and they) are obliged to cut out nuclear reactors and deactivate start-ups (that is, remove the covers of mines from them). Then this (the remains of the boats) for some time should be in the field of view of the satellites. So it’s unlikely

[Old26]

Quote: quilted jacket

If it’s interesting here, an article in English about this boat is more detailed.

Thank. Something like that was already flickering. But information is never redundant

[Gransasso]

Quote: Old26

But information is never redundant

Hello ... I read an article here about the Perimeter system ... in my opinion there is a ball of truth and myths .. I wanted to know your opinion on this system .. thanks

[padded jacket]

Quote: Old26

But information is never redundant

Yes, it’s just a little more detailed there.
And in general, I honestly did not understand how they determined that this other submarine they saw at the same time and the second?
Here is one of the first photos of the Sinpo submarine here she also docked near a similar tree.

And here, next to the stand for launching a submarine-based BR.

[padded jacket]

Stages of testing BR for submarines according to the West.

[Old26]

Quote: Doliva63

And how did they see a rocket there?

Just like the first one. You can see the mine hole in the wheelhouse, that's all

[ventel]

I wonder where they build these boats on the east coast of the DPRK or on the west. As if the Korean comrades did not surprise surprise the PRC and Russia by firing rockets from the territorial waters of these powers.

[Old26]

Quote: Gransasso

Hello ... I read an article here about the Perimeter system ... in my opinion there is a ball of truth and myths .. I wanted to know your opinion on this system .. thanks

Although off topic. Yes, it is truly a mixture of truth and myths. No one knows for sure what is included in this system and how it functions. This is stamped information and those who served on it say nothing (and do it right). It is only known that several types of command missiles (except for other components) were and are part of this system.

• The first of the missiles delivered to the database was the 15PO11 command missile complex with 15A11 missiles, created on the basis of the MR-UR-100 UTTKh (15A16) ICBM. He was put on a DB in the 510th regiment of the 7th division of the 27th missile army
• The second complex is the 15P656 missile system with 15Zh56 Gorn missiles, created on the basis of the Pioneer-UTX 15Zh53 missile system
• Finally, the third complex - the 15P175 missile system with the 15Zh75 missile (later the index was changed to 15Y75), created on the basis of the 15Zh58 Topol rocket of the 15P158.1 complex. Most likely, a new complex of command missiles will be delivered in the near future (if not already installed) based on already, as I think, the Yars rockets

[Old26]

Quote: ventel

I wonder where they build these boats on the east coast of the DPRK or on the west. As if the Korean comrades did not surprise surprise the PRC and Russia by firing rockets from the territorial waters of these powers.

One at least stands in Shinpo. the distance to Vladivostok is about 500 km

[padded jacket]

By the way, I don’t know that with their new corvette, the information flashed then everything calmed down.
Put him in operation or not?

A new corvette in modern external forms with a low radar signature is seen in the northeast port of Najin in Rason (DPRK)
It is reported by nknews.org, which presented a photo of the ship in good resolution. Two sets of photos taken at different periods in 2016 show a 77 m long corvette with strong armament and a helipad, and another smaller ship with minimal armament. The corvette armament consists of two Kumsong-3 anti-ship missiles, self-defense air defense systems, and there is a place for a large-caliber gun.

Experts note that both types of ship illustrate North Korea’s great efforts to create and build a modern fleet to "repel the aggression of the United States and South Korea."
https://vpk.name/news/167684_stelskorvet_severnoi
_korei.html

[Old26]

Quote: quilted jacket

And in general, I honestly did not understand how they determined that this other submarine they saw at the same time and the second?

That's not clear to me. It’s one thing if
1. spotted two at once
2. if they vary in size quite enough

Quote: quilted jacket

Put him in operation or not?

The latest information about these corvettes came across to me at the end of last year. I'll try tomorrow to see the magazines where I could see this info

[padded jacket]

Quote: Old26

That's not clear to me. It’s one thing if
1. spotted two at once
2. if they vary in size quite enough

Maybe they just pump it up?

[Former battalion commander]

Or maybe the North Koreans have not two, but twenty ... two such submarines? If the boat was seen ONLY RECENTLY, then it was SPECIALLY shown, and how many were not shown is unknown. The ace in the sleeve is a powerful psycho-logical weapon. Especially for those who have omelettes in their pants.

[Old26]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: Old26

That's not clear to me. It’s one thing if
1. spotted two at once
2. if they vary in size quite enough

Maybe they just pump it up?

Everything can be, but hardly. Well, if it were an atomic boat and with one and a half dozen rockets, then the second would certainly increase its potential. And then one, two. There is nothing to escalate, although who knows all of them

Quote: Former Combat

Or maybe the North Koreans have not two, but twenty ... two such submarines? If the boat was seen ONLY RECENTLY, then it was SPECIALLY shown, and how many were not shown is unknown. The ace in the sleeve is a powerful psycho-logical weapon. Especially for those who have omelettes in their pants.

The northerners do not have such potential to build twenty-two such boats. Basically, the submarines of their fleet are either the old Chinese clones of the Soviet boat of the 50s - or mini-boats with a displacement of three hundred tons. The only missile - it is its own and the first with such characteristics. They did not have time and resources to rivet 2 dozen.
The message itself is misunderstood at its core. What is the basis of the statement that it is new and larger ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: Old26

And then one, there will be two

So what? Two is already a threat
Eun, visiting the submariners, drives a Project 633 submarine and studies the life of sailors.
By the way, the submarine is in pretty good condition, although apparently old.

[Old26]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: Old26

And then one, there will be two

So what? Two is already a threat
Eun, visiting the submariners, drives a Project 633 submarine and studies the life of sailors.
By the way, the submarine is in pretty good condition, although apparently old.

As for the threat - I agree. The number of simultaneously launched SLBMs increased by 100%

What is in good condition, although the old one - yes. Sometimes we sometimes say that the boat is from the 50s. Why hide it, and I wrote this a couple of times. But the boat was actually designed and built in the USSR in the 50s. As for directly the boats of project 033 delivered to the DPRK, the first 7 boats were delivered from China in 1973-1975. Another 15 boats were assembled in North Korean shipyards in the years 76-95. What is this boat from the collected - HZ