The first Arctic L-172 will be delivered to Yamal in 2018

The AviaTech Research and Production Department is finalizing work on the first in the Russian Arctic amphibious aircraft L-172, which is being created by special order of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District (YNAO), reports TASS message of the press service of the governor of the region.

“Samara is completing the assembly of the first arctic amphibious aircraft L-172 Yamal of the Arctic modification. Today, as part of a working visit to Samara, the head of the Arctic region Dmitry Kobylkin, together with the Minister of Industry of the Samara Region Sergey Bezrukov, visited a research and production enterprise for the development and assembly of small liners aviation", - says the release.

The seven-seater is designed with increased endurance requirements when flying in arctic conditions. “The plane is already called the flagship of the small aircraft of the northern region, symbolic of Yamal. At the same time, the assembly of the L-42M, also of the northern configuration, ends here. ”

Cars will replenish the fleet of the regional federation of light and ultralight aviation Yamal "Wings of the Arctic"

Kobylkin noted in Samara that the range of use of such seaplanes will be expanded.

Design solutions meet our requirements and working conditions in the arctic climate. For several years, small aircraft has shown high performance when patrolling forests in the summer, during raids on water bodies. We plan to use it more widely: for air ambulance in the most inaccessible tundra villages, to provide passenger traffic within the region ... I do not rule out that the range of use of Arctic seaplanes will be expanded to meet the challenges of developing the Northern Sea Route, ice reconnaissance and assistance to ships,

quoted by the governor's press office.

The main design parameters of the aircraft L-172: “Cruising speed - 300-330 km / h, maximum speed - 380 km / h, flight range - 2000 km. Modern multi-purpose seaplane with high aerodynamic characteristics, increased economic efficiency, high reliability, safety, does not require the services of aerodrome structures. "

The acquisition of L-172 Yamal is carried out at the expense of the funds of the Federation of Light and Ultralight Aviation of the YNAO and extra-budgetary sources.

“Experimental flights will take place at the range in Samara. The aircraft will arrive in the service of Yamal in 2018 year, ”the press service added.

Comments

[210ox]

Very interesting car .. Especially in Siberia as a sanitation.

[Stirbjorn]

Do you have your own engines? or again from the "Western partners" buy?

[donavi49]

These aircraft 3,5 at best will be. What are your engines? They will never pay off. On the big put 2 engine Lycoming - as on Sesna 172 for example. On 42M - Rotax.

[NEXUS]

Quote: donavi49

There will be 3,5 of these aircraft at best. What are your engines?

This car is a class BE-103

But he has ..

The Be-103 amphibious aircraft is equipped with two piston aircraft engines from Teledyne Continental Motors (USA), TCM IO-360ES4 air-cooled models with 210 hp each. each.

[WUA 518]

Quote: NEXUS

This car is a class BE-103

Andrei, and where is he? Flashed in the film "Day D"
In this case, there are significant disadvantages:
safe take-off in the event of a single engine failure is not possible (see flight accident at Khabarovsk Air Force Base in 2006),
a flight with three passengers (out of five possible) on one engine is possible only with a decrease,
starting engines afloat is problematic - an airplane with one engine running on the MG spontaneously describes the circulation,
due to the shape of the cockpit glazing, there are no “wipers” on the plane, which is unacceptable for a seaplane,
aircraft engines operate only on expensive imported gasoline not produced in the Russian Federation.

[NEXUS]

Quote: WUA 518

Andrei, and where is he? Flashed in the film "Day D"

Sasha, here I’m talking about that ... Beryaites have completely forgotten how to make amphibians. They are sitting on the BE-200, which was developed even under the reign of peas and drew the BE-2500 project with a very distant sight for the future bright. So what? In Soviet times, we were world leaders in this area, and when I watch how KB Beriev puts the engines of the adversary on his cars ... what can I say? Apparently fools should be driven into such creativity in such a way that it reaches them that they need to be assembled and designed from their own, rather than sculpting a piece of excrement in a beautiful candy wrapper.
Look at least they think like the A-40 Albatross how to build an anti-submarine in a series of our army and thanks for that.

By 2020, naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet will receive the A-40 Albatros anti-submarine amphibious aircraft.

The jet seaplane is intended to replace the obsolete Be-12 aircraft. This was stated by RIA Novosti Chief of Naval Aviation of the Black Sea Fleet Colonel Gennady Zagonov.

However, in Taganrog at the aircraft factory, the RG correspondent was informed that at the moment the enterprise is fulfilling a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply of six Be-200 amphibious aircraft. It is these aircraft that should replace the Be-12.

“As for the anti-submarine A-40, the restoration of production of this machine is possible if an appropriate government decision is made,” the press service of the TANTK named after G. M. Beriev said.

[sedoj]

Quote: WUA 518

due to the shape of the cockpit glazing, there are no “wipers” on the plane, which is unacceptable for a seaplane,

Below is a film about the aircraft - the wipers on the spot.
By the way, in the photo from donavi49 they are also visible.

[WUA 518]

Quote: sedoj

Below is a film about the aircraft - the wipers on the spot.

Talk about the Be-103

[sedoj]

Sorry Tady, I'm talking about the title page.

[WUA 518]

Quote: sedoj

Sorry Tady, I'm talking about the title page.

Nothing wrong

[NIKNN]

at the expense of the federation of light and ultralight aviation of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and extrabudgetary sources.

I understand that a federal program in this area is not expected? ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: NIKNN

I understand that a federal program in this area is not expected?

Nope, the program of the regional government of Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. The more expected application in the segment of ultralight aviation. What is expected from this model, I personally find it difficult to answer. Roll your ass in PMP, as an option.

[NIKNN]

Quote: WUA 518

What is expected from this model, I personally find it difficult to answer. To roll my ass in PMU, as an option.

Yes, and I’m talking about the same thing ... since then, there are few turntables, or they are shaking strongly ... And people are not going to carry anyone. Even the Mongols park An-2 update ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: NIKNN

Yes, and I’m talking about the same thing ... since then, there are few turntables, or they are shaking strongly ... And people are not going to carry anyone. Even the Mongols park An-2 update ..

Well, for that matter, they would have bought Cessna Caravan, for the regionals, God bless him! Flies from the ground, snow, has proven itself in Alaska.

[NIKNN]

Well, okay, let at least someone work ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: NIKNN

Well, okay, let at least someone work ...

Exactly! Fiberglass, epoxy, sandpaper!
This is aviation son!

[NIKNN]

Quote: WUA 518

This is aviation son!

She is the most ...

[Mar.Tirah]

This is good. Otherwise, the last An-28s are finished off in small aircraft. An-2 in the north is suitable only for prisoners in a concentration camp. The question is passenger capacity, and who will they be transported to, Gazprom managers?

[Bourbon]

Quote: Mar. Tira

An-2 in the north is only suitable for concentration camp inmates. The question is passenger capacity, and who will Gazprom managers carry to them?

Well then you 6 what matters to the managers? or something tickles?

[NKT]

Strange you are responding about the An-2, especially since it was just that you mastered the North. They are now more than a few times flies than the An-28.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mar. Tira

This is good. Otherwise, the last An-28s are finished off in small aircraft. An-2 in the north is suitable only for prisoners in a concentration camp. The question is passenger capacity, and who will they be transported to, Gazprom managers?

They do not plan to use it as a passenger or transport. And to transport an observer or a doctor, when used in a patrol or sanitary version, such a machine is the very thing.

[Herculesic]

For Yamal, the aircraft is very necessary, only its speed is low -500 km / h must be cruising, and not less than 700 km / h is the maximum!

[askort154]

Herculesych ...... not less than 700 km / h - maximum!

What for? His duties are purely regional. Sanitation, patrolling woodlands in the summer, delivery of fishing teams to lakes and fish export, provision of reindeer herders, control of pipelines, passenger transportation to remote villages, etc.
All this is now performed by helicopters (An-2, practically no longer), and this is several times more expensive than such an airplane. Such flights, as a rule, over short distances, take-off - landing 5-15 per day (with the exception of patrolling) Therefore, he does not need a high speed - 300km per hour for the eyes)

[WUA 518]

Quote: askort154

What for? His duties are purely regional.

His duties are total zero! What can he transport? In principle - nothing, only himself! Equipment for night flights and SMU-no!
What we have: a fiberglass plane at the level of crazy hands, with the functionality of this product

[askort154]

Yes, for a region of continuous rivers and lakes, a hydro-plane is not a luxury, but a workhorse.
And if they make a change of wheel chassis to ski ones (like on IL 14, Lee -2 and An-2) then there will be no price for it. In summer, on water and land, in winter on snowy grounds, lakes and rivers.

[NEXUS]

The main design parameters of the aircraft L-172: “Cruising speed - 300-330 km / h, maximum speed - 380 km / h, flight range - 2000 km. Modern multi-purpose seaplane with high aerodynamic characteristics, increased economic efficiency, high reliability, safety, does not require the services of aerodrome structures. "

Looking at these performance characteristics, the idea came to my mind that this amphibian could very well be used as an anti-submarine reconnaissance complex. But I think if there would have been more, then this would be something for the military would be in the matter of tracking submarines of the adversary and their destruction in the future.
As for civilian use, the sowing amphibian is very successful and, I am convinced, will be very useful for Siberia, the Urals, even the Arctic.

[Rusfaner]

Engines "in the studio"!
In the picture, the "rotaxes" - even the forced version - is a little more than 100 l / s. 250 forces for 7 people? The eight-seat Cessna has 600 horses.
Well, albeit, miraculously, it will be "like-rings", but, "again twenty-five" - ​​they are gasoline (100LL) air-cooled.
How much energy will it take to start frozen overnight and where to get it? Burn in a turbine furnace as much as on a flight?
Turboprop aircraft are needed in the North, but where can I get them?
The second one is a fiberglass eroplan and, if an aluminum apparatus has a pair of scissors, a hammer and a riveter for scrambling a boat rupture from a piece of ice, then fussing with epoxy in the cold is another activity!

[WUA 518]

Quote: Rusfaner

7 people?

Yes, there are 4 places with the crew. They only prepare a family room.

Quote: Rusfaner

rotax

They are the most

I’ll be silent about the willingness to work in the Arctic

[Dedall]

Gentlemen, why didn’t you please the M-11? They say that the equipment for their release is still folded at the MOH. The engine is simple to terrible and consumes everything, up to A-76. And if you put electronic ignition, and direct injection, then there will generally be a fairy tale. So after all, guys from the West and eastern neighbors will not let the release begin.

[IL-18]

Let's then make plywood, like the Yak-6. You can incarnate Sh-2. Where can I get so many joiners and carpenters? And who will produce the M-11? We must move forward, then we will achieve something, otherwise, instead of moving forward, we must again create a motor from scratch, which we abandoned back in 1954.

[Dedall]

Just do not distort, dear! I wrote about the M-11, because I consider it the top engine for small aircraft. He: 1 - reliable; 2 - unpretentious; 3 - maintainable. You can, of course, mark the "turbomek" and "pratt-wittney", but this is a completely different weight category. And the plane for polar aviation seems to me to be twin-engine, and with a rated power of 140 “horses” it can easily lift a ton of cargo. An example of this is the Shche-1, which with two M-11s of 42 years of production with a capacity of 112 "horses" lifted 1115 kg.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Dedall

Sche-1

And what is this airplane?
Sh-1 was (Shavroshka), but he is single-engine.

[Dedall]

Type correctly. It was not Sh that started, but Shch, from the name of the chief designer Shcherbakov, whose group originally designed the monoplane for transporting aircraft engines. Then this aircraft was widely used as a military transport and, despite the not very large power of the engines. By the way, even the po-2 ridiculed in the comments could, with great need, raise a bomb of 250 kilos.

[IL-18]

Talk to the An-2 pilots. They will tell you about the winter operation of the M-62. With M-11 all the same dances with tambourines will be.
Or ask the tankers which tank they would choose from the three Soviet T-64, -72, -80 in the winter.

[evil partisan]

If they don’t get fired before retirement, and they still let out an airplane for Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, then I’ll definitely ride on it.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

If they don’t get fired before retirement, and they still let out an airplane for Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, then I’ll definitely ride on it.

Hello Jura!
Come on, burn!

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Burbon

Quote: Mar. Tira

An-2 in the north is only suitable for concentration camp inmates. The question is passenger capacity, and who will Gazprom managers carry to them?

Well then you 6 what matters to the managers? or something tickles?

We just have to deal with it. We have to fly. Judging by the comments, are you not aware of the problems of small aircraft in the north? I report the AN-2 certainly a reliable machine. But it is already outdated, both in terms of energy economy, motor resources, and passenger comfort. With bags Apparently you didn’t have to have a thing? A BOLTANKA IS NOT WORSE BETWEEN THE COSMONAUTS SIMULATOR. Yes, and the speed leaves much to be desired. Moreover, in severe frosts, the boots freeze to the floor so that even an open cockpit does not save. In addition, they fly in warm fur boots. has been working on helicopters for a long time .. An-2 is working on transportation of shifts, in sports clubs, aviation security, and chemical wood processing. Today, for example, the taiga was treated with taiga from the Yenisei, and Ob.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Apparently you didn’t have to deal with kulki? BOLTANKA IS NOT WELL BETWEEN THE COSMONAUTES SIMULATOR.

It was necessary more than once . The crew handed out to all passengers. They were useful to many . But I was never stuck !!!

[SergeBS]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Apparently you didn’t have to deal with bags? A BOLTANKA IS NOT WELL THAN THE COSMONAUTS SIMULATOR. Yes, and the speed leaves much to be desired. Moreover, in severe frosts, the boots freeze to the floor so that even an open cockpit does not save. In addition, they fly in warm high boots .

Well awesome arguments.
But sho, is this new division larger, or will it fly higher, and therefore there will be less clutter?
But sho, do wing engines heat the cabin better than a center wing engine? Hint: In this fashionable toy in the pilot's cabin it will not be warmer than in the cabin - there is nothing to bask on ...
For capacity, I generally keep quiet: WHOLE 7 seats. And at least some stretchers fit? In length (which does not fit across - guaranteed). AWESOME "sanitation."
Give the AN-2 a new engine and strengthen the fuselage a little - it will be "flying in the north for another 50 years." And stretchers easily fit.

Well, "nadoblivanie": where the rivers and lakes are MAXIMUM 3 months, and the rest of the time ice and snow, AWESOME need landing on the water .. Already 1/4 of the year.
And what about ice, that there will be harder water, you’ll sit on the floats. Gouging. The same AN-2 has a “disease”: a skiing dog often flies off when landing on snow (and it’s in the tail, consider no load). And here the BASIC mass is on the floats. Well, "happy flight and soft landing on ice / crust floats" 3/4 years.

[san4es]

In Samara, the assembly of the first Arctic amphibious aircraft L-172 Yamal is being completed.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: wicked partisan

Quote: Mar. Tira

Apparently you didn’t have to deal with kulki? BOLTANKA IS NOT WELL BETWEEN THE COSMONAUTES SIMULATOR.

It was necessary more than once . The crew handed out to all passengers. They were useful to many . But I was never stuck !!!

You are lucky. Not everyone can stand it .. I was sick of childhood. All my life I only flew on cornfields and then weathered in the seas, I didn’t. But it’s not pleasant when I fall into air holes. I have a son-in-law pilot and somersaulted all life.

[Radical]

NEXUS Today, 15: 57 ↑ New
Quote: WUA 518
Andrei, and where is he? Flashed in the film "Day D"
Sasha, here I’m talking about that ... Beryaites have completely forgotten how to make amphibians. They are sitting on the BE-200, which was developed even under the reign of peas and drew the BE-2500 project with a very distant sight for the future bright. So what? In Soviet times, we were world leaders in this area, and when I watch how KB Beriev puts the engines of the adversary on his cars ... what can I say? Apparently fools should be driven into such creativity in order to reach them that they need to be assembled and designed from their own, rather than sculpt a piece of excrement in a beautiful

You can see for a long time working in the defense industry, since you so categorically evaluate the work of the TANTK them. Berieva!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Radikal

You can see for a long time working in the defense industry, since you so categorically evaluate the work of the TANTK them. Berieva!

I see the fruits of their labors, or rather their absence. The Ministry of Emergencies still receives the purchased BE-200s, they cannot receive it in any way. A-40 where, dear expert? M. Or anti-submarine amphibians we did not rest in any place?

[Hungary]

Well, why the hell do you need it? Kobylkin with his nukers ride? There are enough turntables for sanitation. Well, what is the price of the ticket if it is allowed to go through the villages? Another outburst of money (literally).

[vinschu]

Quote: WUA 518

Quote: NEXUS

This car is a class BE-103

Andrei, and where is he? Flashed in the film "Day D"
In this case, there are significant disadvantages:
safe take-off in the event of a single engine failure is not possible (see flight accident at Khabarovsk Air Force Base in 2006),
a flight with three passengers (out of five possible) on one engine is possible only with a decrease,
starting engines afloat is problematic - an airplane with one engine running on the MG spontaneously describes the circulation,
due to the shape of the cockpit glazing, there are no “wipers” on the plane, which is unacceptable for a seaplane,
aircraft engines operate only on expensive imported gasoline not produced in the Russian Federation.

What kind of miracle is "gasoline not produced in the Russian Federation"?

[vinschu]

Quote: WUA 518

Quote: askort154

What for? His duties are purely regional.

His duties are total zero! What can he transport? In principle - nothing, only himself! Equipment for night flights and SMU-no!
What we have: a fiberglass plane at the level of crazy hands, with the functionality of this product

In Russia, such and others like him fly under a hundred and fly pretty well. The nomenclature of installed avionics is quite extensive, meteorological radar and so on.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: SergeBS

Give the AN-2 a new engine and strengthen the fuselage a little - it will be "flying in the north for another 50 years."

Yes, there is such an AN-3 machine, it’s kind of called. But I don’t see it. I didn’t take root. Besides, the gas on which this engine is running seems to be discontinued .. Yes, I don’t say that this aircraft will be a panacea. On the contrary , inflated advertising, for effective managers this plane will be, and not for passengers. As we flew on MI-8, we will fly. There is no more reliable car.

[Letnab]

Quote: WUA 518

Quote: NIKNN

Yes, and I’m talking about the same thing ... since then, there are few turntables, or they are shaking strongly ... And people are not going to carry anyone. Even the Mongols park An-2 update ..

Well, for that matter, they would have bought Cessna Caravan, for the regionals, God bless him! Flies from the ground, snow, has proven itself in Alaska.

We have such a machine in the region, not bad, but there are many nuances ... there was a case when the screws were damaged when landing on a dirt strip, that is, this machine does not like off-road when landing and taking off ...

[vinschu]

Photos are very indicative, we look at the distance from the propeller blade to the surface.

[Radical]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Radikal

You can see for a long time working in the defense industry, since you so categorically evaluate the work of the TANTK them. Berieva!

I see the fruits of their labors, or rather their absence. The Ministry of Emergencies still receives the purchased BE-200s, they cannot receive it in any way. A-40 where, dear expert? M. Or anti-submarine amphibians we did not rest in any place?

As I understood from your emotional answer, you don’t have any idea what the situation is in the defense sector, citizen "sofa marshal", so I think it’s useless to continue talking with you! Keep loading the brains of those present here with your amateurish nonsense!