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Project "ZZ". Sobchak and the front "dissatisfied." The people are "tired" from Putin

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President Putin spoke of the update. And right there on the political Olympus Ksenia Sobchak appeared. In the West, she is called the “daughter of the former mentor” Vladimir Putin. Other foreign analysts believe that without the approval of the president, Xenia would not announce her desire to run for the presidency. There is another opinion: the figure Sobchak "decorate" the election-2018.


Is this candidate Ksenia Sobchak? In a large German newspaper «Die Welt» An article by Pavel Lokshin (Pavel Lokshin) was published, in which Sobchak is referred to as a spoiler candidate. It says the title: "Xenia Sobtschak, die Spoilerkandidatin."



Journalist Ksenia Sobchak, daughter of the former mayor of St. Petersburg, intends to run for the next presidential election in Russia. She "wants to become president of Russia," writes Lokshin. Her goal: to collect the voices of the "disgruntled." But is this young woman a “real alternative”? “There are doubts about her true intentions,” the author writes.

Ksenia Sobchak presents herself in the video: she, a young woman, is standing in the kitchen. The kitchen is the place, the author recalls, where "Russian families traditionally discuss politics." Ksenia says: “Enough, guys, well, good. Well, really, you all got it! ”

So, in March 2018, a TV journalist and a secular celebrity will participate in the Russian presidential election. 35-year-old lady is positioning herself as a candidate "against all", who intends to fight against decades of dominance in the politics of the same people. Thus, she will speak not only against the “Kremlin chief” Vladimir Putin, but also against the “traditionally hopeless” candidates from the communists and liberals, who unsuccessfully challenged even Putin’s predecessor, Boris Yeltsin.

We see a confident modern woman. What did she think? Making fun of the political climate in the country?

Although she has never concealed her opposition sympathies, she is associated with the Russian elite, and Putin knows from childhood, the author recalls. It was her father, the first freely elected mayor of St. Petersburg, Anatoly Sobchak, who made the future president his deputy in the middle of the 1990s, which gave rise to Putin’s political career.

Such a proximity to power, the observer believes, raises doubts "in the true intentions of the new candidate." For several weeks now, Moscow has been discussing a possible candidate, whose name arose on the political Olympus after statements from “anonymous sources,” telling the press that the presidential administration is conducting “negotiations” with K. Sobchak.

The candidacy of Sobchak should “revive” Putin’s re-election and help increase popular attendance at elections. Although Putin has not officially announced his candidacy, everyone is confident that he will come forward and win the election, the author points out.

Sobchak like "accusations" in his address rejects. She wrote an open letter to the liberal newspaper Vedomosti, where she stated that her candidacy would be useful for the opposition and society. And yet “there is some evidence” of the fact that “the Kremlin actually stands behind the candidacy of Sobchak,” writes Pavel Lokshin.

Two hours after the “announcement” Sobchak, Russian state television reported “friendly” about this. Even a small excerpt from her kitchen video was shown! It is impossible to imagine that Putin’s opponent Alexei Navalny, who has been campaigning for a long time, will receive such an advertisement!



Interestingly, the candidacy of Sobchak is criticized just from the camp of Navalny, as well as in the Yabloko party. Moreover, Sobchak gets from the "loyal supporters" of the Kremlin in the State Duma.

What benefits does the Kremlin win from Sobchak? Russian political analysts agree that the young woman is going to become the so-called spoiler against Navalny, which should split the opposition electorate.

Meanwhile, Sobchak said she would withdraw his candidacy if Navalny was allowed to participate in the elections. However, the Kremlin is unlikely to allow this “criticism of Putin” to advance. It is curious that before Sobchak Navalny accused of undemocratic behavior and the "cult of the leader."

However, the Kremlin is interested in “giving a face” to the expected low percentage of “protest” voters. The candidature of Sobchak “imitates political competition,” says Andrei Kolesnikov from the Moscow Carnegie Center. The candidate is known and so unpopular that it discredits the opposition as a whole. According to polls, Sobchak know more than 90% of Russians, and about 60% of them have a negative attitude towards it.

Most experts believe that Sobchak could get a tiny number of votes. A scenario similar to the presidential election in 2012, when billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov collected about eight percent of the vote, is considered unlikely by Moscow politicians in the case of Sobchak.

One of these days Sobchak will present his program. To officially register as a candidate, she will need to collect 300.000 signatures. It is likely that she will have to "resort to the unofficial assistance of the Kremlin," the observer mocks.

David filipov in «The Washington Post» meanwhile, he cited the well-known Western opinion: the Russian people were “tired” of V. Putin’s rule.

President Vladimir Putin, the author recalls, has still not indicated whether he will seek re-election. At the forum of experts on international politics in Valdai, he only said that today's leaders are responsible for ensuring that the life of young people "is better, fairer and safer." “Our task is to realize these dreams,” an American journalist quotes Putin.

The next president of Russia should ensure the transformation of Russia into an economically competitive country with a modern society and a stable political system. However, he did not say what would become such a president.

When Putin was asked if the next Kremlin leader could be a woman, he replied: "Everything is possible with us."

Putin, with his unsurpassed 80-percent approval rating, now faces a puzzle: Should he become the leader who will rule Russia "longer than anyone since the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin"? Now he focused on determining the new place of Russia in the world order. He offered Russia's support to leaders in the Middle East and Europe as an alternative to what he calls US-sponsored regime change. However, Russian voters, the author writes further, showed "signs of fatigue from the current system." Protests under the slogans of the fight against corruption have recently twice taken to the streets more protesters in cities across the country.

Young voters show particular concern here. It is young people who are going to protest actions inspired by anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny. Therefore, the Kremlin is looking for ways to interest young people, drag them onto the side of “loyal political movements,” the correspondent believes. Some find Ksenia Sobchak’s candidacy "Kremlin sabotage in this direction", although the presidential press secretary Peskov rejects such assumptions.

According to political analyst Tatyana Stanova, after almost 18 years in power, Putin is more interested in “court stories"Rather than the" needs of the people. " “This abstract approach to politics,” she notes, “means that the will of the people (and the role of elections) in Russia is diminishing even more and is no longer a source of its legitimacy.”

Candidates like Ksenia Sobchak are not able to really oppose Putin, however, “they offer voters a choice and give voters a kind of European-style democracy,” the author ironically says. It is expected, he continues, that candidates from communists and ultranationalist candidates will receive a small percentage of the votes.

* * *


It is curious that Mr. Navalny commented on the desire of K. Sobchak to be elected president almost in Putin’s style.

If Putin said at the Valdai forum: “Everything is possible with us,” then Navalny, who was released after an administrative arrest, сообщил: "Everyone has the right to go to the polls." Further, not without irony, he listed these “eligible”: “I like someone more, someone less. Zyuganov, Yavlinsky, Sobchak, Navalny - everyone can go to the polls. ” And he immediately noted that the elections will be invalid if they do not let him go there.

As for the political weight of Sobchak, then, of course, she has no real chance of becoming the first female president of market Russia. At least, political scientists and sociologists do not give her such chances. Moreover, Sobchak is ridiculed.

Political scientist Alexey Malashenko сказал, for example, about the nomination of Sobchak is the following: "Whoever was familiar with the situation before that, did not even grin, but just smiled."

And the director of the Center for Public Administration and Public Policy at Carleton University, Peter Dutkevich, responded about the candidacy of Sobchak in the following way: “It was a good joke, which everyone accepted with stormy applause.”

Let's applaud charming Xenia! Suddenly she will become the next president? Everything is possible with us!
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  1. Lnglr
    Lnglr 23 October 2017 09: 52 New
    +6
    It has long been predicted the use of various moves in order to increase turnout in the elections. The promotion of Sobchak was considered as one of such a move.
    The latest analytical article on this topic came out in the Version of October 09, just before its announcement.
    Material "Look for a woman."
    Read, it's interesting there)))
    1. The black
      The black 23 October 2017 09: 56 New
      11
      They say that as an individual, Sobchak was nominated for the post of President by the team of the Moscow Hippodrome ... laughing
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 23 October 2017 10: 16 New
        17
        Laugh, laugh ... I'm afraid, but the number of people who voted for Ksyusha will be an unpleasant surprise for those who are competing in wit, about her ... By the way, the recent scandal concerning the stolen goods was suddenly forgotten or "accidentally found" in her apartment millions of dollars, the origin of which "Ksyusha" explained (with downcast eyes): "Well ... this .... on a new" television project ".... Yeah. And most importantly, they all "believed" - of course, on the "TV project", and then what else .... "But they don’t believe Navalny .... they don’t believe it, and that’s it, probably he’s not a horse-skinned guy - does not cause "trust" ..... wink
        1. The black
          The black 23 October 2017 10: 32 New
          +2
          I'm afraid, but the number of people who voted for Ksyusha will be an unpleasant surprise
          Why are you afraid of being flown under the American flag? wassat .
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 23 October 2017 10: 41 New
            12
            This literary expression is .... here .... Well, "Ksenia" will not change anything, anyway ... As you say: "Vote, don’t vote, you’ll get anyway ..." ... " (I mean what I "deserved" .....). wink
            1. The black
              The black 23 October 2017 12: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              Well, "Ksenia" will not change anything, anyway ..

              Ett to the point ... because she does not shine ... and in general, to declare that she is going to the polls and to be officially registered as a candidate are completely different things wink
              As they say: “Vote, don’t vote, you’ll get anyway ...” ..

              “Vote, don’t vote, you’ll get anyway ...” the one whom the Russian hackers will appoint you wassat
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 24 October 2017 02: 17 New
                +3
                In fact, Ksenia Sobchak and the GDP already once exchanged views on the election.
          2. temirtau72
            temirtau72 23 October 2017 10: 45 New
            19
            And what's the difference what flag ?! We are all Russian people and have the freedom to express our point of view. Maybe from afar it looks very different.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 23 October 2017 14: 29 New
              0
              Quote: temirtau72
              And what's the difference what flag ?! We are all Russian people and have the freedom to express our point of view. Maybe from afar it looks very different.

              A big one. In this case, nationality does not matter. Quickly you change your shoes. Literally on the fly. Sit there in Germany and shake for your women. Emigrants will restore order and suit you will be replaced. Freedom after all.
        2. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx 23 October 2017 11: 13 New
          +4
          Monster_Fat, bulk has a criminal record and constitutionally has no right to run. change the constitution for the sake of one convict?
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          I'm afraid, but the number of people who voted for Ksyusha will be an unpleasant surprise for those who are competing in wit here
          even if at least 300k signatures scratch ... as a person who really walked around the apartments and collected them, I can say that only good money will be spent on this procedure.
          1. True
            True 23 October 2017 11: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: K0
            Monster_Fat, bulk has a criminal record and constitutionally has no right to run. change the constitution for the sake of one convict?

            You quote from the constitution. Or are you a gossip repeater ?!
            1. Ren
              Ren 23 October 2017 12: 17 New
              +4
              Quote: True
              You quote from the constitution. Or are you a gossip repeater ?!

              "Constitution of the Russian Federation" (adopted by popular vote 12.12.1993/30.12.2008/6) (as amended by the Laws of the Russian Federation on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation of December 30.12.2008, 7 N 05.02.2014-FKZ, of 2 N 21.07.2014-FKZ, of 11 N XNUMX -FKZ, dated July XNUMX, XNUMX N XNUMX-FKZ)
              Article 81
              4. The procedure for the election of the President of the Russian Federation is determined federal law.

              Federal Law of January 10.01.2003, 19 N 18.06.2017-ФЗ (as amended on June 28.06.2017, XNUMX) "On the Election of the President of the Russian Federation" (as amended and supplemented; entered into force on June XNUMX, XNUMX)
              Article 3. Electoral rights of citizens of the Russian Federation in the election of the President of the Russian Federation
              5.2. A citizen of the Russian Federation does not have the right to be elected President of the Russian Federation:
              1) convicted to imprisonment for a grave and (or) especially grave crime and having an unexpunged and outstanding conviction for the specified crime on the day of voting;
              1.1) sentenced to imprisonment for a serious crime, the criminal record of which is withdrawn or canceled, - until the expiration of 10 years from the date of withdrawal or cancellation of the criminal record;
              (Clauses. 1.1 is introduced by Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              1.2) convicted to imprisonment for a particularly serious crime, the criminal record of which has been withdrawn or extinguished - until the expiration of 15 years from the date of withdrawal or cancellation of the criminal record;
              (Clauses. 1.2 is introduced by Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              2) convicted of an extremist crime stipulated by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and having an unexpunged and outstanding conviction for the crime on the day of voting, if this citizen of the Russian Federation is not affected by subparagraphs 1.1 and 1.2 of this paragraph;
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 21.02.2014 N 19-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)
              3) subjected to administrative punishment for committing administrative offenses provided for in Articles 20.3 and 20.29 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, if voting in the election of the President of the Russian Federation takes place before the end of the period during which a person is considered to have been subjected to administrative punishment;
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 24.07.2007 N 211-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)
              4) in respect of which a court decision has entered into force that the violation of the restrictions provided for by paragraph 1 of Article 56 of the Federal Law "On Basic Guarantees of Electoral Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation" or of the performance of actions provided for by subparagraph "g" of paragraph 7 has been established and subparagraph "g" of paragraph 8 of Article 76 of the Federal Law "On Basic Guarantees of Voting Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation" if these violations or actions were committed within a period not exceeding six years before the voting day.
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 19.07.2009 N 196-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)
              (item 5.2 is introduced by the Federal law from 26.04.2007 N 64-ФЗ)
              5.3. If the restrictions on passive suffrage provided for by subparagraphs 1.1 and 1.2 of paragraph 5.2 of this article expire during the election campaign before election day, a citizen of the Russian Federation whose passive suffrage was restricted has the right to be nominated as a candidate for these the election.
              (item 5.3 is introduced by the Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              5.4. If the act for which the citizen was convicted is not recognized as a grave or especially grave crime in accordance with the new criminal law, the restrictions of passive suffrage provided for by subparagraphs 1, 1.1 and 1.2 of paragraph 5.2 of this article shall cease from the date of entry into force of this criminal the law.
              (item 5.4 is introduced by the Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              5.5. If a serious crime for which a citizen was convicted is recognized as a particularly serious crime in accordance with the new criminal law or if a particularly serious crime for which a citizen has been convicted is recognized as a serious crime in accordance with a new criminal law, the passive suffrage restrictions provided for subparagraphs 1.1 and 1.2 of paragraph 5.2 of this article, are valid until the expiration of 10 years from the date of withdrawal or repayment of a criminal record.
              (item 5.5 is introduced by the Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              6. A citizen of the Russian Federation in respect of whom a court sentence has entered into force depriving him of the right to hold public office for a certain period of time, if such a punishment is provided for by federal law, cannot be registered as a candidate for the post of President of the Russian Federation if voting in elections The President of the Russian Federation will take place before the expiration of the time period established by the court.
            2. Cxnumx
              Cxnumx 23 October 2017 12: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: True
              Or are you a gossip repeater

              not, I just have brains and I am able to search:
              Section 4, Art. 81 http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_28
              399/67433a12b43ee077f730388b5f6edd346d7a9902/
              Clause 5.2 Article 3 Chapter 1 Federal Law of January 10, 2003 N 19-ФЗ
              http://base.garant.ru/185413/1/
              1. True
                True 23 October 2017 12: 34 New
                +4
                The President of the Russian Federation is elected for a term of six years by citizens of the Russian Federation on the basis of universal equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot.

                2. A Russian citizen may be elected President of the Russian Federation at least 35 years old and resides in the Russian Federation for at least 10 years.

                3. One and the same person can not hold the office of President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms.

                4. The procedure for the election of the President of the Russian Federation is determined by federal law.
                Well, in the Federal Law you can write anything depending on the situation.

                Quote: K0
                change the constitution for the sake of one convict?

                Well, for some people have already changed.
                1. Cxnumx
                  Cxnumx 23 October 2017 13: 06 New
                  +5
                  Quote: True
                  Well, in the Federal Law you can write anything depending on the situation.

                  Indeed, federal laws are changed 10 times a day and with the left heel ...
                  Quote: True
                  Well, for some people have already changed.

                  What, also for the sake of the prisoner? articles on which convicted call? and, if I don’t confuse, the current president has not held this position for more than 2 consecutive terms and this paragraph of the constitution has not changed)) but the term of office has changed (6 instead of 4, which I personally support, because 4 years are not enough. stupid copying of American / European laws do not work for us) when another person was elected president.
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: True
              You quote from the constitution. Or are you a gossip repeater ?!

              Federal Law of January 10.01.2003, 19 N 18.06.2017-ФЗ (as amended on June 28.06.2017, XNUMX) "On the Election of the President of the Russian Federation" (as amended and supplemented; entered into force on June XNUMX, XNUMX)
              Article 3. Electoral rights of citizens of the Russian Federation in the election of the President of the Russian Federation

              5.2. A citizen of the Russian Federation does not have the right to be elected President of the Russian Federation:
              1) convicted to imprisonment for a grave and (or) especially grave crime and having an unexpunged and outstanding conviction for the specified crime on the day of voting;
              1.1) sentenced to imprisonment for a serious crime, the criminal record of which is withdrawn or canceled, - until the expiration of 10 years from the date of withdrawal or cancellation of the criminal record;
              (Clauses. 1.1 is introduced by Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              1.2) convicted to imprisonment for a particularly serious crime, the criminal record of which has been withdrawn or extinguished - until the expiration of 15 years from the date of withdrawal or cancellation of the criminal record;
              (Clauses. 1.2 is introduced by Federal law from 21.02.2014 N 19-ФЗ)
              2) convicted of an extremist crime stipulated by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and having an unexpunged and outstanding conviction for the crime on the day of voting, if this citizen of the Russian Federation is not affected by subparagraphs 1.1 and 1.2 of this paragraph;
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 21.02.2014 N 19-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)
              3) subjected to administrative punishment for committing administrative offenses provided for in Articles 20.3 and 20.29 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, if voting in the election of the President of the Russian Federation takes place before the end of the period during which a person is considered to have been subjected to administrative punishment;
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 24.07.2007 N 211-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)
              4) in respect of which a court decision has entered into force that the violation of the restrictions provided for by paragraph 1 of Article 56 of the Federal Law "On Basic Guarantees of Electoral Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation" or of the performance of actions provided for by subparagraph "g" of paragraph 7 has been established and subparagraph "g" of paragraph 8 of Article 76 of the Federal Law "On Basic Guarantees of Voting Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation" if these violations or actions were committed within a period not exceeding six years before the voting day.
              (in the edition of the Federal Law from 19.07.2009 N 196-FZ)
              (see the text in the previous wording)


              Navalny was charged with organizing the embezzlement of another's property on an especially large scale (part 3 of article 33, part 4 of article 160 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)
        3. Stas157
          Stas157 23 October 2017 11: 44 New
          +6
          Elections in Russia are beginning to look like comedy similar to farce. They began to invite all grayness from the notorious program "House 2"! While this is the first sign of this odious program (albeit the former one), look at the next election the whole team will catch up!
          Oddly enough, but Putin has already given his go-ahead! Is it really up there that everything is so bad with real candidates that they slip us fake ones?
          1. 34 region
            34 region 23 October 2017 15: 15 New
            +2
            11.44. Stas! Here you are wrong. This is a very competent move of the Kremlin. Do you not like Putin? And how do you like Sobchak? And if they throw out another Kudrin card?
        4. iouris
          iouris 23 October 2017 12: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          the number of voters for "Ksyushu" will be an unpleasant surprise

          Maybe. Therefore, in the United States only electors vote. A generation of "fantasies", considers Ksenia a "smart woman", almost an old woman.
        5. forester
          forester 23 October 2017 13: 01 New
          +4
          Yes, she won’t even get the required number of votes to register as a candidate - just the picker decided to remind herself, otherwise they began to forget
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 14 New
            0
            Quote: forester
            Yes, she won’t even get the required number of votes to register as a candidate

            likely to dial
            1. iouris
              iouris 24 October 2017 01: 09 New
              0
              She does not have to "pick up" anything, everything will be decided by money (pledge).
        6. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          I'm afraid, but the number of people who voted for Ksyusha will be an unpleasant surprise for those who are competing in wit

          I do not think that this will be a critical value of 10-15%, taking into account suckers
        7. Sharapov
          Sharapov 23 October 2017 17: 43 New
          0
          Bulk or Sobchak? who will drag the voices of a protest audience? die Spoilerkandidatin? Why not?
          She will cope with the task of "digging in H", but no more is needed. Ksenia should not be underestimated, she’s not such a simple “horse”, but rather a dark one. The girl must work hard. otherwise mom may lose och. a significant place for the representative of Tuva in SovFed ..... And so, you look, and the warm place will pass by inheritance ...
      2. serriy
        serriy 23 October 2017 10: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Black
        They say that as an individual, Sobchak was nominated for the post of President by the Moscow hippodrome team

        1. The black
          The black 23 October 2017 10: 30 New
          +2
          The election race has become a racetrack. wassatHorse Power is the official sponsor of presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak.
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 23 October 2017 11: 34 New
            +9
            In vain you laugh, there will be someone who will vote for her. I will not be surprised that Navalny will call on his supporters to vote for her.
            Of course, she has no chance, but this is a good move by the Kremlin political strategists.
            So the version that its nomination is coordinated with the Kremlin is quite likely.
            The Kremlin is demonstrating to the West that we have the entire political spectrum represented in the elections, pulling part of the protest electorate to Ksyusha and crushing it, and for Sobchak, whom everyone has thoroughly forgotten about, he has a chance to return from nonexistence to the media space. Good PR. You can start House-3. Salvage will flow river.
            In short, everything wins. Except for the voter who is deprived of this alternative.
            1. The black
              The black 23 October 2017 12: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Ulan
              In vain you laugh, there will be someone who will vote for her. I will not be surprised that Navalny will call on his supporters to vote for her.

              ... the question is how many wink
              Of course she has no chance
              ... you see, you yourself understand this very well
              but this is a good move by the Kremlin political strategists.
              And why exactly the "Kremlin"?
              1. Ren
                Ren 23 October 2017 12: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Black
                ... the question is how many

                In my opinion, this is an ingenious move, and it may well gain 10 percent.
                1. 34 region
                  34 region 23 October 2017 15: 19 New
                  0
                  12.21. Ren! It is unlikely to gain 10%. Maybe 1,5-1,7%. With all the shortcomings of Putin, with the appearance of candidates like Sobchak, Putin is better!
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: Ulan
              In vain you laugh, there will be someone who will vote for her.

              definitely there, there is hardly anyone doubts, her PR specialists are cool, the first speech was muddied up great, I think not one double was muddied up
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 23 October 2017 10: 58 New
          +2
          And who gave the money? It will not cost a lemon here, hundreds of them are needed here and what does it have to do with well ...
      3. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 23 October 2017 10: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Black
        They say that Kakndidat Sobchak was nominated for the post of President by the Moscow hippodrome team ... laughing

        Well, judging by the portrait on the "manats", she has long won the elections in Turkmenistan! yes
        1. nmaxxen
          nmaxxen 23 October 2017 16: 46 New
          +2
          a horse on manats is two orders of magnitude more beautiful than a dog
      4. 210ox
        210ox 23 October 2017 12: 05 New
        +5
        Are you tired of Putin !? But are there no liberals from the tricksters?
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 23 October 2017 17: 18 New
          +4
          Funny :-)! Do you really believe that Putin is directly opposed to neoliberals and oligarchs? Wow, what kind of people there are! For me, the neoliberals and Putin are the same eggs, only the angle is slightly different.
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    3. 73bor
      73bor 24 October 2017 20: 20 New
      0
      And as Sobchak probably got everyone else, this question has not even been studied, my father’s daughter definitely got me even more than Putin!
  2. Sars
    Sars 23 October 2017 10: 04 New
    10
    Putin, Medvedev, Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, bulk, Sobchak - those who rule us will propose candidates for every taste - vote, don't vote - the result will be one.
    1. AA17
      AA17 23 October 2017 11: 18 New
      +9
      Not surprised by the proposed candidacy. Apparently, there will be no serious candidates for president. ("Do not grumble at your ruler, for every nation is worthy of its ruler.")
      I would be glad if P. Grudinin or Y. Boldyrev would run for. These people can be worthy candidates for the post of President of Russia. These applicants could influence the increase of interest of Russian citizens in the elections in 2018.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 23 October 2017 14: 35 New
        0
        Freedom after all.
        Who is this?
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: SarS
      those who rule us

      and who rules you?
  3. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 October 2017 10: 10 New
    14
    Sobchak and the front of the "dissatisfied." The people are "tired" of Putin

    The people are tired of HOUSE-2, and the fouling of the ether by the faces of imbeciles and primates.
    1. volodya
      volodya 23 October 2017 10: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: NEXUS
      The people are tired of HOUSE-2, and the fouling of the ether by the faces of imbeciles and primates.

      No words, some jokes!
    2. temirtau72
      temirtau72 23 October 2017 10: 46 New
      0
      So Ksenia has long been working on a wet channel.
    3. igordok
      igordok 23 October 2017 11: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      The people are tired of HOUSE-2, and the fouling of the ether by the faces of imbeciles and primates.

      Unfortunately there are enough people watching HOUSE-2. They are not so few.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      The people are tired of HOUSE-2, and the fouling of the ether by the faces of imbeciles and primates.

      Masha slept with Petya twice. Then she cheated on him with Kolya, who actually loves Paul. Now Masha wants to take revenge on Kolya with Sasha. But Sasha is not a lesbian and has long slept with everyone. Who will Masha sleep with in the new year? Watch on TNT channel a new reality show - "Public House-2"

      We decided in HOUSE-2 to finally engage in raising the level of intelligence. We started with the fact that Ksyusha was taught to play chess. Yesterday she was already taught how a pawn moves. Today they will teach how the second pawn moves ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 October 2017 13: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Masha slept with Petya twice.

        The allowance is unicellular, like living in such a way that dad has a brother and mother a sister.
  4. Pacifist
    Pacifist 23 October 2017 10: 14 New
    +2
    “Someone I like more, someone less. Zyuganov, Yavlinsky, Sobchak, Navalny - everyone can go to the polls. ”He immediately noted that the elections would be invalid if they did not let him go there.

    Olosh in his style. Turn and immediately refer to your lies as a well-known fact. By God I can’t understand why this character is not behind bars yet.
    As for Xenia ... something is not formulated that is decent and does not violate the law. In all the conclusions about her and all this liberal shobla from decent only "in" and "on".
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 23 October 2017 10: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: Pacifist
      By God I can’t understand why this character is not behind bars yet.

      Who will plant the goddaughter himself?
  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 23 October 2017 10: 15 New
    +8
    Yeah! What tricks the Kremlin doesn't have to go to! But all one thing for the people in the elections will come to hell with a pen.
    1. True
      True 23 October 2017 11: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      But all one thing for the people in the elections will come to hell with a pen.

      Tyuyuyu ... and storytellers? I’ll tell you a secret: they are forced to vote. The plot number is asked simple and the time at what time voted. They let go of work for an hour. And try not to vote. There have been cases in the areas where the power loses the soldiers will bring.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 23 October 2017 12: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: True
        There have been cases in the areas where the power loses the soldiers will bring.


        Why, so shamelessly lie?
      2. 34 region
        34 region 23 October 2017 15: 28 New
        0
        11.42. Truth! Well, they’ll bring it. So what? Where is the guarantee that they will vote for the right candidate? In the last election, they talked with a person. Will they choose Putin? No! Everything is against him. This person was on the election commission and counted the ballots. I ask: for whom did you vote? For Putin! And the percentage of votes was within the national average. Here is such a fact from life. hi
      3. bk316
        bk316 23 October 2017 18: 04 New
        +3
        There have been cases in the areas where the power loses the soldiers will bring.

        And what were the areas where the GDP was losing?
        Have you learned anything about Russia ....
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 23 October 2017 10: 32 New
    +5
    As for the "charming" Ksenia Oleg clearly went too far. Or he has such specific tastes laughing ?
  7. koshey1977
    koshey1977 23 October 2017 10: 36 New
    +3
    Putin, of course, is a pity.
    So many years the same thing.
    No, Tobako or Alco
    He can afford
    But a little. In the office
    Only so that no one sees.
    Smoke on a cigarette
    With someone who serves in the Foreign Ministry.
    Or drink in the air
    But without Russian scope.
    Cameras hang everywhere
    Pale yellow everywhere .....!
    In his personal life, he is sedate.
    Well, how? When? And with whom?
    Well, do not walk him, like Lenin.
    In a woman’s wig.
    Everything is not like in humans.
    Past the mouth and mustache.
    Well, not to the Kremlin ...
    Call, think for yourself.
    So he goes to meetings.
    Now hunting, then fishing.
    Then Shoigu will come, then Sechin.
    Putin, of course, is a pity.
    @ Cords.
    1. corporal
      corporal 23 October 2017 11: 28 New
      +2
      Well, here's another from Shnurov, already about Ksyusha:
      "It’s kind of like democrats,

      And Chichvarkin, and Bulk,

      Their successes are multiple

      In a sphere like liberal.

      Suddenly they ran into Ksyusha, -

      "Where are you going, <! - filter: -> damn <! - / filter -> * b, you, mare,

      We are for equality, listen, -

      Have you forgotten your place?

      This is our, bl *, glade.

      We are here Alpha and Omega.

      Do you remember Herzen and Gdlyan?

      Between us do not * run.

      Political otter,

      You can’t stir up water!

      We are alone - for an honest choice,

      Only without your foot. "

      Gentlemen bombed

      Fell ill with a woman

      For rights and change,

      For * ynyu not weak.

      That’s all their democracy,

      Here is their sharp discourse, -

      All the same people, bitch, brothers,

      But not sisters. "
      (c) Cords.
      1. orphan 63
        orphan 63 23 October 2017 16: 41 New
        +1
        Svezhak from Shnurov good for those who are especially busy we listen to a song from 3.30

        The latest developments in the field of political technology lead to this --- "Candidate for candidate"
  8. Vard
    Vard 23 October 2017 11: 25 New
    +3
    Something incomprehensible is happening ... occasionally I turn on the box ... listen to the weather ... so there are some Sobchak clones ... scary and impossibly impudent ... Is there really no beautiful women in Russia ... Although if there is any beauty to nominate as a candidate. ... then he will win ... the right word will win ...
  9. Mihail55
    Mihail55 23 October 2017 11: 44 New
    +3
    But they will lead on her! Youth politics is absolutely on the drum. And then there’s such an opportunity to “get fun” ... and choose KSYUHU! Sadly ...
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 23 October 2017 12: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Michael55
      But they will lead on her! Youth politics is absolutely on the drum.

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  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 October 2017 12: 46 New
    +4
    Sobchak’s candidacy is criticized just from Navalny’s camp, as well as in the Yabloko party

    With Navalny it’s clear - even registration doesn’t shine for him. With Yabloko, it’s also clear - Yavlinsky is sitting on “treason”, it’s time for Mitrokhin to send him to a psychiatric hospital (from the opposition of the authorities he took down the roof), the young shoot perfectly shows his lack of clarity and ignorance of basic things on political talk shows. To whom, if not to criticize them. Today I heard one funny thought from an expert about Sobchak. In his opinion, her nomination will force Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov to nominate young candidates for election.
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 13: 03 New
    0
    Project "ZZ". Sobchak and the front "dissatisfied." The people are "tired" from Putin

    in quotation marks the people had to be taken, not "tired" and "displeased"
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  14. Enoch
    Enoch 23 October 2017 13: 42 New
    +2
    The massons are nervous, afraid to lose the feeder.
  15. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 23 October 2017 14: 50 New
    +8
    There is no development of the state ... Stagnation of the economy and production, the elites and the elite are waiting for February - whether Trump will expropriate them "overwork", the sleepy king is trying to PR among young people, the government is openly sabotaging his old and new decrees ... "Little victorious war "in Syria becomes a protracted and senseless adventure with the prospect of keeping the Syrian economy on the neck of the Russians ... Ahead of the election, a mass non-appearance of the population at polling stations is expected, as was the case recently when the State Duma was elected. The population is simply tired of watching on TV the same pictures of faces and cloned meetings and meetings. You need to shake and scare the population ... Navalny got fed up, here's another scarecrow - HUT ... "Do not want these? So vote for the king ... Panimash!" ... That's all.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 23 October 2017 19: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Fedya2017
      there’s a scarecrow for you - SLUT ... "Do not want these? So vote for the king ...

      And the king will win. In a stubborn and bloody fight. laughing I wonder if there is a loafer with congratulations like "Vladimir Vladimirovich, you saved Russia, you defeated a horse"?
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 23 October 2017 21: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Karabin
        interestingly, there is a slime-man with congratulations like "Vladimir Vladimirovich you saved Russia

        Surely ... The Russian people are always waiting for the next savior of the Fatherland. They like to be saved with us ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 20: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Fedya2017
      The “small victorious war” in Syria is turning into a protracted and meaningless adventure with the prospect of keeping the Syrian economy on the neck of the Russians ...

      Well this is frank stupidity
      Quote: Fedya2017
      There is no state development ...

      your suggestions?!!!!
  16. Fox
    Fox 23 October 2017 15: 02 New
    +7
    there are two beggars sitting in the passage, one has a plate "hand it over to a poor Jew," and the other "give it to a poor Russian.
    passers-by throw in a hat "Russian" ...
    passing grandmother, throwing a trifle to "Russian", says "Jew"
    -You would also write like that, and they would throw money to you ...
    to which the "Jew", turning to the "Russian":
    -Izya, you still look, our goys will teach us business!

    so here, the same crap.
  17. wot
    wot 23 October 2017 17: 03 New
    +2
    You can laugh a lot at the candidate Sobchak (on the first day too lol ) but inside the country, the boiling point is growing due to unsolved problems ... it's time for the authorities to think
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 23 October 2017 19: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: wot
      ..power time to think

      I'm afraid there is nothing.
  18. wot
    wot 23 October 2017 17: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Spare
    Now, when Berkova nominates her candidacy, then it is already possible to discuss.

    an example is already similar ... in Italy wink
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 23 October 2017 17: 54 New
    0
    Cat Matroskin was right: "and why do we need this gutallin" ...
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 23 October 2017 19: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Volka
      "and why do we need this gutallin" ..

      What do you mean why? To brighten up the Main Candidate.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2017 20: 09 New
        0
        so nominate yourself, win and begin to develop the state
  20. Radikal
    Radikal 23 October 2017 20: 11 New
    +1
    We applaud the charming Ksenia!
    ... of course they don’t argue about tastes ... wink
  21. kriten
    kriten 24 October 2017 16: 30 New
    0
    I don’t know how tired people are of GDP, but I know for sure that he’s been tired of Sobchak’s horse face for a long time.
  22. Sinbad
    Sinbad 26 October 2017 20: 26 New
    0
    The only thing suitable for this ... (Sobchak) is cleaning public toilets. Since nothing except d ... ma comes out of her mouth.
  23. 3vs
    3vs 26 October 2017 20: 28 New
    0
    The column “Against all” in the future may be introduced in elections and other levels, except the municipal. This was announced on Wednesday by the speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko, RIA Novosti reported.

    To hell she would have said this if I had not been waking up this question!
    The last time under Dimitri Anatolyevich was the same with the same persons after my request to the president to return the column "Against All" ...
    And the same thing will end ...

    Is it also like going to the presidency, otherwise Ksyusha is plagiarizing, stealing my initiative, and he will give up Crimea, God forbid, it gets to the presidency ?!

    And what, I already have almost everything!
    Hashtag - # Vasily_ApproxAll!
    Motto - "Citizens of Russia, I brought you freedom!" (citizens - the one who goes to the polls and votes, who does not go and does not vote - the population)

    Election Promises:
    1. A referendum on introducing the column “Against all” in all elections to the Constitution of the Russian Federation so that it would be unfair to rake in the future
    the meaning of this column!
    2. Cancel resort fee.
    3. Cancel the ravings of Spring.
    4. Discard Plato.
    5. To cancel the introduction of online cash registers for small businesses, who are already “stuck”,
    sending data to the database only at the end of the shift, nefig communication channels garbage
    to score!
    The sequel is invented ...

    We entrust the economic program to write to Mikhail Khazin.
    In general, I am looking for oligarchs-patriots with free money for an election campaign.

    In the end, I won’t argue, it will be possible to congratulate the Russians like New Year on Boris Nikolayevich - “I'm leaving ...”
  24. tank64rus
    tank64rus 26 October 2017 20: 28 New
    0
    Major for a major part. Probably the first decree will be on permitting safaris on people on steep wheelbarrows on the roads of Moscow.
  25. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 26 October 2017 20: 32 New
    0
    In due time in Russia, actors and other comedians were forbidden to vote in elections, and were buried outside cemeteries. And now these presidential dolls are torn. The world gets on the ears ...
  26. Agent_017
    Agent_017 26 October 2017 20: 36 New
    0
    Youth just do nothing ..
  27. demo
    demo 26 October 2017 21: 39 New
    +2
    David Filipov in The Washington Post, meanwhile, brought a well-known Western opinion: Russian people are "tired" of the reign of V. Putin.

    Yes, tired. But not enough to replace him with a woman, with a canine name and a horse's face.
  28. Bort radist
    Bort radist 27 October 2017 18: 20 New
    0
    Ksenia swung at the project - House 3, nationwide. wassat
  29. Bearmedved
    Bearmedved 21 January 2018 08: 09 New
    0
    She’s empty, she’ll get into the van and do what