Kiev justified the theft of Russian gas

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After the Yushchenko regime’s theft with Russian gas, the Europeans insured themselves and, together with Russia, quickly built the Nord Stream. When Poroshenko in Kiev took into account the lessons stories and gas theft approach "strategically."



Since then, both Europe and Russia have taken a whole range of measures protecting gas coming from Russia to Europe. This forced Kiev, forced to frustrate the EU, look for less obvious ways to seize someone else's goods.

Using the favor of the West, with a kind smile watching the pranks of his child, Kiev began to make absurd court decisions in bundles, according to which Gazprom owed him almost half a trillion (!) Rubles.

After the first decisions, having understood that there is a decision, but there is no money, the Kiev courts decided not to withdraw money and shares, but property. In essence, the theft of transit Russian gas. Because there is simply no other liquid property of Gazprom in the sphere of the reach of the Kiev authorities.

In hryvnia, Kiev's appetite draws on 171 billion (6,4 billion dollars). This is a fine for the so-called abuse of the monopoly position on the natural gas transit market. The “logic” is as follows: Gazprom is obliged (although there are no written commitments) to pump more gas through Ukraine. At least 100 billion cubic meters. Moreover, due to the monopolistic position of Gazprom in Ukraine, there are no alternative suppliers.

It would be more logical to make a complaint to Yushchenko, but it is impossible - he is the “father of the Orange Revolution” And this is holy, though unloved.
As for the absurd claims and the fabulous size of the fine, then everything is extremely simple. Kiev initially did not expect to profit from any assets of Gazprom, except for gas itself.

On the approach (possibly in November) the final decision of the European courts on numerous gas disputes. And Kiev will have to pay - according to preliminary estimates, based on interim court decisions, more than a billion dollars.

For a lean Kiev treasury - a decent amount. Especially in view of the negative decision for Kiev and on the return of 3 billion dollars in Eurobonds - there are more than 3,5 billion running there with interest and penalties.

This suggests, according to the logic of Kiev, an elegant solution - to write off part of the fine imposed on Gazprom as part of debt repayment.

And then on the approach the end of 2018 of the year and the onset of the last heating season before the expiration of the contract for the transit of gas from Russia to Europe. Moreover, by this time they will come to the end of work on the Turkish Stream, and there on the Nord Stream - 2.

Provided that the existing regime is maintained, the chances of getting a new contract for gas pumping are equal to 100 percent. Russia will necessarily conclude such a contract for purely political reasons. Even if you have to underload the SP-2.

That's just the volume of pumping will be somewhere 30-50 billion cubic meters. 30 billion is the minimum annual transit volume at which the GTS can work at all, maintaining at least some pressure in the system. 50 billion is less than the volume at which the transit fee according to the average European tariffs will cover Kiev's costs for maintaining the system in working condition.

Very elegant decision from the Russian side. Good uncle does not allow the state-forming system to die, 40 to thousands of kilometers of pipes. And let's face it, in a number of countries so deliver gas more convenient and more profitable. But Kiev will not get a penny from this. Well, if it goes to zero. By the way, it will be up to Moscow to decide whether it will be released or not.

It seems to realize this in Kiev. And, according to their meager strength, they are preparing for the land, as the unforgettable Klitschko used to say. Trying to lay at least some piece of paper under the place of their future fall. Remove gas without stealing. and according to a valid judgment.

At the same time, in Kiev, they perfectly understand what will happen and what will be the reaction of Europe to such a demarche. No, they will not freeze there, after Yushchenko they built gas storages in the EU and diversified gas supplies as much as they could. But all the same, no matter how Kiev tried to justify and conceal theft, the EU will be extremely unhappy. After 2008, Yushchenko simply "refused from home", ceasing communication with him beyond the minimum necessary. With these it will be even worse.

But in Kiev already today they obviously live by the principle “after us even the flood”. For those. who deliberately destroys their own country for years, someone's gas and someone's discontent will be a weak argument. Today, still yes - Kiev has to reckon with the EU.

But five minutes before the death of the regime ...
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  1. +7
    23 October 2017 07: 18
    "... the end of 2018 and the onset of the last heating season are approaching before the contract for gas transit from Russia to Europe expires ...", - and then the real purchase of Russian gas from the fisted, not considered problems ordinary Ukrainian population Europeans, non-current "Brothers of followers ..Aidan." And with coal it will not be easier.
    1. +13
      23 October 2017 07: 33
      The article can be formulated in a single sentence - "The sheriff’s Indians aren’t ... worried! " laughing
      1. +4
        23 October 2017 08: 52
        That's just Kiev from this will not fall a penny. Well, if it goes to zero. By the way, they will decide whether or not it will be in Moscow.
        PROBLEMS THAT CARE.
        but it would be easier to close the Belarusian window, re-export of ukrov to the CIS (and the Russian Federation) through Luka.
        1. +3
          23 October 2017 15: 27
          Quote: antivirus
          but it would be easier to close the Belarusian window, re-export of ukrov to the CIS (and the Russian Federation) through Luka

          Something somehow complicated ... what
          Re-export is the final customs regime, implying the export from the territory of the country of previously imported objects on special grounds
          Moreover, the re-export of ukrov to the CIS (RF) is not clear ... request
      2. +7
        23 October 2017 10: 04
        Quote: Finches
        The article can be formulated in one maxim

        I, as knowing-sleeping, ask, one by one for water maximsand turn with a big respected Shot Glass, hi Advice, decrees ... sentiment ..., could have been simpler ..., - advice ... Does not apply to anyone ... Only to RUSSIA.

  2. +14
    23 October 2017 07: 32
    Uh-huh, the decision of the Kryzhopil court is a reinforced concrete foundation in the international legal framework for the theft of gas. I believe.
  3. +9
    23 October 2017 07: 33
    Europe against gas purchases on the eastern border The ruins of the Russian Federation, although the risks of undersupply of the contracted volumes of fuel in this case have decreased dramatically. Why is it against - it is clear that transit money does not allow Ruin itself to be bent and that the GTS is maintained in working condition, and the transit is paid by Russia, not by the EU, as it would have been when purchasing gas in the east.
    By the way, we would also be comfortable with the option of selling gas on the Ruins border, since problems with the theft of gas would be an internal family affair of Tseevropy and of Europe itself.
  4. +3
    23 October 2017 07: 35
    Good uncle

    Hey Good Uncle, for the Kiev Nazis! What are you, hawnyuk, with your compatriots you are tearing three skins?
  5. +5
    23 October 2017 07: 53
    Gazprom does not look like an altruist. That is still a shark. So I really doubt the prospects of the Ukrainian gas transportation system. Yes, and in the implementation of decisions of local courts.
    1. +2
      23 October 2017 12: 07
      there’s another trick: Gazprom is not involved in the transit of Russian gas to Europe, it enters into a contract for pumping with the Ukrainian Transgaz, which deals with this.
      Gazprom is only obliged to provide the volume of gas stipulated in the contracts.
      So the monopolist is a Ukrainian organization.
      If this did not suit them, the Ukrainian side could simply not conclude a contract with Gazprom for pumping its gas through Ukraine.
      I think the matter is different, Ukraine hints that Russia does not allow the same Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to pump their gas to Ukraine through Russian gas pipelines.
      This is probably not the case in the claim, but it is probably implied, because there was a time when such pumping was carried out. But this is a private matter of Gazprom, to whom to provide its pipe.
      True, since Ukraine, as always, did not pay for gas, Turkmenistan refused this project and preferred to conclude an agreement with Russia, albeit at a discount.
      1. +4
        24 October 2017 03: 53
        Quote: Ulan
        Gazprom is only obliged to provide the volume of gas stipulated in the contracts.

        Apparently, after the tricks of the Stockholm arbitration, at the right time you can wipe the contract !!! wassat wassat wassat lol lol lol
    2. +9
      23 October 2017 12: 47
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Gazprom does not look like an altruist. That is still a shark.

      Yeah shark! Given the difference of tens of billions of dollars, when comparing the amount that Germany paid for Russian gas and the amount with which the "public treasure" pays taxes. hi
      1. +1
        23 October 2017 17: 46
        And what about the large-scale construction of gas pipelines conducted by Gazprom? For what money? Tired of revs, who can only meaningfully moan without understanding the elementary!
        1. +7
          23 October 2017 19: 42
          Quote: dmitry.kashkaryow
          Tired of revolutions that can only groan meaningfully without understanding the elementary!

          Bravo! Very patriotic. I don’t quite understand what is “elementary” for you. If you have any arguments, I’m ready to listen and get acquainted with your links.
          Quote: dmitry.kashkaryow
          What about the large-scale construction of gas pipelines that Gazprom is conducting? For what money?

          Such large-scale construction projects are carried out from the company's working capital with loans, both domestically and abroad. This is the "alphabet" of business, in order to understand this, you do not need to have a higher education. Although what am I talking about !?
          All sold and paid oil, gas is subject to strict monitoring.
          According to the WTO, in 2016 Russia sold a total of all products worth one trillion dollars. According to Russian customs, in 2016, Russia sold abroad products worth a total of 516 billion dollars. The difference of almost 500 billion dollars has disappeared somewhere. It should be noted that Customs scrupulously counts every drop of oil, every cubic meter of gas, every car of the forest passing through the Russian border. Thus, on the other hand, they track how many products were bought from Russia, and the Russian customs - how many products came from Russia. As noted, the amount from the sale of Russian products abroad is two times the amount of products recorded by the customs authorities of Russia, and the difference is $ 500 billion, which went past the Russian budget.

          The WTO has data on how much each country bought products in Russia, and Russia, in turn, reports on how much it sold its products to different countries. So, according to the United States in 2016, Americans bought $ 9,9 billion worth of products in Russia, and according to the customs of the Russian Federation, Russia sold three billion dollars worth of United States products. 6 billion dollars have disappeared somewhere. According to Germany, she bought in Russia oil products worth $ 27,1 billion, according to Russia, she sold products to Germany in the amount of $ 10,9 billion. 16 billion dollars have disappeared somewhere. And so in all countries with whom Russia trades.

          http://ruspolitica.ru/post/kuda-ischez-rossiyskiy
          -byudzhet /
          This is for you to read optionally! After all, everything is so elementary! laughing
          1. +3
            23 October 2017 21: 48
            Quote: kapitan92
            This is for you to read optionally! After all, everything is so elementary!

            For so many years we have been truthfully told from all sides about the landing on the moon .... How is your resource more truthful? Not that I don't believe that they steal. But how many times have we been deceived, and on the Internet, where no one bears any responsibility for what has been written all the more ..... So, read it yourself, and I will protect my health.
            1. +5
              23 October 2017 21: 59
              Quote: ARES623
              For so many years we have been truthfully told from all sides about the landing on the moon ....

              Alexei Leonov has denied rumors that American astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin did not land on the moon.
              The opinion of the Soviet cosmonaut Leonov is an argument for you, or what?
              https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
              01512131157-c0mm.htm
              Quote: ARES623
              What is the truth of your resource?

              No more than VO.

              Quote: ARES623
              So, read for yourself, and I will protect my health.

              And it is right! You still enter EP, they say it helps. hi
              1. +3
                24 October 2017 08: 13
                Quote: kapitan92
                Alexei Leonov has denied rumors that American astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin did not land on the moon.

                This is not the one who advised on through the deceitful anti-Soviet film "Time of the First", told stories about dispossession of his father (who was a simple peasant and thundered under the criminal article) and boasted that he was in the 90s
                president of the Alfa Capital Fund squeezed factories from the "red directors"?
                Well, yes ... That is another authority)))
                Quote: kapitan92
                The opinion of the Soviet cosmonaut Leonov is an argument for you, or what?

                Former Soviet cosmonaut, and now stolen lackey of Capital for you is authoritative? Maybe for you and Rezun authority? Also a former Soviet officer ...
              2. +2
                24 October 2017 11: 15
                Quote: kapitan92
                Alexei Leonov has denied rumors that American astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin did not land on the moon.

                And Trump's adviser on science expressed reasonable doubts. And there are doubts about Leonov. Gorbachev and Yeltsin on the constitution swore allegiance to the people of the USSR and Russia, what happened - you see.
                Quote: kapitan92
                And it is right! You still enter EP, they say it helps.

                This was what we had to start with. You have all the arguments weighty depending on the party affiliation. Your right is to believe or not to believe, only advise your wife to cook cabbage soup, and somehow, I will decide on my party affiliation. Good?
              3. 0
                30 November 2018 06: 45
                Sorry to get into your conversation, but The opinion of the Soviet cosmonaut Leonov is an argument for you, or what? This is not an indicator.
                Those. Leonov may be a truthful and honest person, but his knowledge may simply not be at that level.
                And if we take the dependence of the astronauts on the leadership of the country, then the field for reflection expands.
                So proof of a different order is required.
                As soon as the conversation comes about the landing, the waving American flag immediately comes to mind.
                Proudly fluttered in the airless space.
                And the dust from under the wheels of the lunar jeep poured like earthly.
                A small lie (even for the good) gives rise to great distrust.
                And the loss of genuine films in general is beyond my comprehension.
                Such things should be stored not just as a fact, but as the greatest relic.
                And Americans bang us! and said the film was lost.
                Well what to say.
                Whoever wants, let him believe.
            2. wax
              +2
              26 October 2017 11: 20
              The presence of amers on the Moon is proved by the simple fact of the delivery of lunar soil to the earth, and interestingly, the soil is not terrestrial.
              1. +2
                26 October 2017 16: 00
                Quote: Wax
                The presence of amers on the Moon is proved by the simple fact of the delivery of lunar soil to the earth, and interestingly, the soil is not terrestrial.

                And who saw and analyzed these soil samples? In the USSR, as I know, these samples were not received. And even if there are samples, they could come from an automatic station. Soil does not prove anything. By the way, big claims to the color of the soil in the photographs from the landing of the Americans on the moon. It is different from our designs.
          2. +6
            24 October 2017 03: 55
            Quote: kapitan92
            According to the WTO

            you do not really do so much emphasis on this fact !! wassat wassat lol lol lol if necessary, they will draw any figure against Russia against you !!! laughing laughing laughing
          3. +1
            24 October 2017 07: 57
            Quote: kapitan92
            http://ruspolitica.ru/post/kuda-ischez-rossiyskiy
            -byudzhet /

            Quote: kapitan92
            This is for you to read optionally! After all, everything is so elementary!

            Are you serious? Who is the author of the article? Where in the text of the link to the source after each stated figures ??? Wikipedia writes articles even more literally) Yes, I can emboss such dozens of such articles on a fence! Will you also refer ?;)
        2. +3
          24 October 2017 18: 06
          Does Gazprom carry out "large-scale construction projects" with Miller’s personal money and money?
  6. +2
    23 October 2017 08: 01
    And frankly speaking, it is more convenient and more profitable to deliver gas to a number of countries. That's just Kiev from this will not fall a penny. Well, if it goes to zero. By the way, decide whether or not will be in Moscow.

    ... I believe that they will decide all the same "in Moscow" ... the GDP will not leave nezalezhnu without heat and light ...
  7. +6
    23 October 2017 08: 28
    Since we live in a market economy, we must be aware that trade (especially under sanctions) should be as productive as possible. And if we do not want the appearance of American bases in the Outskirts, then we must forget about the once fraternal relations with Her. Business and nothing personal! Maybe even after that the "brothers" will begin to grow wiser. After all, it’s clear to the hedgehog that Russia cannot control the passage of gas through the “Ukrainian pipe”, therefore we won’t go into the internal affairs of the Outskirts and should sell gas to Geyrope on the Russian-Ukrainian border. Further, as in that proverb: "The problems of the Sheriff Indians do not care!" Let them exploit their gas transmission system as they wish, and who will be responsible for 100% gas transmission, after 100% payment for its gas rate, is not our concern anymore!
  8. +8
    23 October 2017 08: 34
    a brief summary of the article .... the Central Europeans should now begin to select a company that will deal with the dismantling of pipelines and the delivery of used pipes to scrap ...
    1. +4
      23 October 2017 08: 57
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      a brief summary of the article .... the Central Europeans should now begin to select a company that will deal with the dismantling of pipelines and the delivery of used pipes to scrap ...

      And what to pick her up? Ukrainians themselves will disassemble and sell scrap metal in Germany, and concerns Krupp and Rheinmetall will melt and make new pipes for gas pipelines bypassing Ukraine.
      1. +5
        23 October 2017 08: 59
        don’t tell me ... not to run .... to the gas pipeline with reverence it is necessary ... otherwise it will turn out self-delivery of metal by the explosive method ... together with dismantlers ...
        1. +4
          23 October 2017 09: 01
          Quote: d ^ Amir
          don’t tell me ... not to run .... to the gas pipeline with reverence it is necessary ... otherwise it will turn out self-delivery of metal by the explosive method ... together with dismantlers ...

          For that, saving on transportation costs.
          1. +3
            23 October 2017 09: 33
            all savings will end on compensations to the families of the victims and restoration of the destroyed by the blast wave .... if the metal flew strictly to the collection site and even in the process it was sorted / sorted into diameters / steel grades .... then yes ....
            1. +2
              23 October 2017 10: 46
              Quote: d ^ Amir
              Now, if the metal flew strictly to the collection site, and even in the process, it was sorted / sorted into diameters / steel grades .... now then yes ....

              Well that's too cool.
              1. +3
                23 October 2017 10: 49
                Well, NOTICE is it possible ??? e-xxxx ... dreams dreams where your sweetness ....
      2. +1
        24 October 2017 08: 57
        wink Exactly. "Everything is already stolen about us!"
      3. wax
        0
        26 October 2017 11: 24
        and make new pipes for gas pipelines bypassing Ukraine

        or maybe they will make rails for a narrow gauge railway in Ukraine
    2. +2
      23 October 2017 14: 55
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      the Central Europeans already now need to start selecting a company that will deal with the dismantling of pipelines and the delivery of used pipes to scrap metal ..

      That's just on this issue do not worry. For tseevropetsami not rust. Only they will throw a cry, they will cut the entire gas transportation system in an hour. This they can do. It will be something like this. laughing
      1. +3
        23 October 2017 15: 11
        not a plane ... but they will fly !!!!!! in an embrace with a pipe !!!! for the remnants of gas ....
  9. +2
    23 October 2017 08: 37
    In conditions of almost sexual laughing Ukraine’s merger with the EU, the prospect of stealing European gas looks doubtful. Gazprom will again reduce the supply by the amount stolen. But if earlier gas is just "evaporated“from pipes, now, if there is an alleged execution of the decision of the Upper Pup court, the thief will be obvious. The situation is almost worse than the Yushchenko’s period.
    1. +7
      23 October 2017 10: 50
      In almost sexual laughing Ukraine merges with the EU

      ek. You are cultural ... I wouldn’t be able to ...
      1. +6
        23 October 2017 19: 23
        "for Europe it is important to have Ukraine as a member .." (c) Do not ban this quote from one of the EU officials "I swear by my mother" laughing
        1. +4
          23 October 2017 19: 33
          good good good also a serious phrase ... Freud's direct reservation ....
        2. 0
          24 October 2017 15: 17
          In "this perspective", and with due regularity - it would be important for the Russian Federation. And for the Outskirts - useful. For a plentiful "infusion" - neither more nor less - fertilizes ...
  10. +1
    23 October 2017 09: 23
    I would like to believe that today Russia will not make any concessions and will not silently observe how it is surrounded by some foolish blokes in trousers and at the same time chuckles scornfully.
  11. 0
    23 October 2017 11: 50
    Actually, why not consider the issue of Ukraine’s monopoly on the delivery of Russian gas ??? Answer: it’s just the construction of alternative routes that bypass the square!
  12. 0
    23 October 2017 14: 31
    Kirdyk slowly sneaks up to the brothers.
    1. +6
      23 October 2017 14: 59
      Which year is all about kirdyk. When it comes there I certainly don’t know, but as a Russian pensioner I have vague suspicions that all these pranks with gas pipes, which is all that we have in fact, can be on me a pensioner say. With whom, then, to tear off the costs if not from a senior citizen disenfranchised? There is no money, but Gazprom needs help ... well, and you hang on there ..!
      1. 0
        24 October 2017 15: 11
        Quote: sapporo1959
        all these pranks with gas pipes, which is all that we have in fact, can affect me as a pensioner

        But what do you think will affect your retirement "gas withdrawal on an industrial scale without paying for it"? Is that much better?
  13. +1
    23 October 2017 14: 56
    Quote: inkass_98
    Europe against gas purchases on the eastern border The ruins of the Russian Federation, although the risks of undersupply of the contracted volumes of fuel in this case have decreased dramatically. Why is it against - it is clear that transit money does not allow Ruin itself to be bent and that the GTS is maintained in working condition, and the transit is paid by Russia, not by the EU, as it would have been when purchasing gas in the east.
    By the way, we would also be comfortable with the option of selling gas on the Ruins border, since problems with the theft of gas would be an internal family affair of Tseevropy and of Europe itself.

    Hmm ... I met infa and the opposite, that Gazprom is not interested in the option of transferring gas to the Russian-Ukrainian border ...
    1. 0
      23 October 2017 19: 54
      Indeed, I remember how in 2014, when gas fuss was launched in the summer, then Ukraine and the EU proposed moving the gas delivery point to the Ukraine-Russia border. So the EU was not opposed. But Gazprom got into a mess. He began to say that only he knows how to distribute gas at the points of delivery on the EU-Ukraine border. And there are several of them - Poland, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary ... And this is supposedly such a difficult task that Ukraine will not cope. And the fact that Gazprom pays for transit at its own expense is also doubtful. Such services are always paid by the end customer. Yes, and Gazprom suspected that Ukraine would increase the price of gas and resell it to the EU.
    2. 0
      24 October 2017 16: 36
      So, therefore, he doesn’t agree that the television picture would be like criminal regime stealing Russian gas for the electorate. It is natural that then some gentlemen write in a foolish frenzy about seizing gas of a type on an industrial scale. .
  14. +5
    23 October 2017 14: 58
    By the way, yes. The decision of the Kryzhopol judge in international law is void and theft of gas will be considered by Gazprom as theft. That is, the volume of pumping will be reduced by the amount of narcotism. And then, Ukrainians will swing their piece of paper in a European court and prove that they are right not for us, but for Europeans who have not received their gas.
    By the way about pumping since 19. We have already said that transit will go with the eastern border. If it will be. And by default, it is supposed to sell gas to the ancient ukram directly, without transit.
    As far as I understand on a prepaid basis, in principle, they can buy gas from Gazprom and then sell them to the EU at a market price. This idea was at the head of their investment program. Europeans do not really agree on such a feint, although several companies have offered to buy their property in the GTS. What the ancient Ukrainians do not agree to, for then they, in principle, will fly by the gas, and even they will buy from Gazprom through the European prequalifier. But this is the only option for them.
    1. +1
      23 October 2017 20: 01
      Nevertheless, little hands for the non-delivery of stolen gas will unscrew the EU first of all to Gazprom. And it will be unknown whether Ukraine will deal with it or not. With the payment of gas since 2014, how long does the booty last? The fourth year and the end is not visible. Although the matter is simpler than steamed turnips - they took gas but did not pay. And then they will understand about 10 years, but the EU cannot be left without gas! This is a violation of the contract, for which a fine in the amount of the cost of undelivered gas! In 2014, there was a gas pipeline explosion near Uzhgorod, gas burned for $ 80 million. Gazprom tried to prove that this is a poor pipe content. But Kiev on the contrary - that terrorists blew up from Donbass. Well, in the end, Gazprom silently accepted this loss, because arguing in the courts would be more expensive.
  15. +2
    23 October 2017 15: 20
    Yes, the jumpers do not have long to jump, the freebie ends ...
  16. +4
    23 October 2017 15: 36
    Yes they laid. As they stole, they will steal. Russia will shout - shout, and it will calm down. Forgive .... For the first time, or what?
    1. +1
      23 October 2017 18: 07
      from 19 g they will stop transit and according to the balance sheet, the 19 g budget will be calculated, they will come through.
      The Russian Federation needs only (?) To endure the cry of “brothers” for another 3 years - up to 22 g.
      and then ... "for sure we will get cognac, and the grasshopper will run to surrender .." the more chaos (freedom) on the outskirts, the less chance of it being restored.
      BIG EAST ROMANIA) OR BULGARIA)
  17. 0
    23 October 2017 17: 37
    Theft cannot be justified! Savages can always find an excuse for any non-civilized whims!
    1. 0
      24 October 2017 15: 07
      Quote: edigs
      Theft cannot be justified!

      Who knows ... maybe you can in extreme need. Homeless children in difficult years - this also cannot be justified?
      1. 0
        28 October 2017 16: 58
        There is nothing justification for theft anywhere and nowhere! In any religion, this is considered a serious sin! "DO NOT STEAL" No one has the right to steal or seize other people's property! If you allow lawlessness and lawlessness, then you are sinful and criminal! So, the presumption of innocence does not apply to you and every thief can “legally” take everything from you according to yours because he needs it!
        1. 0
          28 October 2017 23: 11
          idealist......
          1. 0
            29 October 2017 12: 23
            It is unusually easy to fall, and even to the delight of all "well-wishers", but it is already impossible to rise up a load of baseness!
  18. +2
    24 October 2017 08: 59
    Khokhlov impossible to steal to wean!
  19. 0
    24 October 2017 10: 45
    we stole, we steal and we will steal, the brothers, after all .....
  20. 0
    24 October 2017 11: 01
    [quote ... Good uncle does not allow the state-forming system to die, 40 thousand kilometers of pipes ... quote]
    The uncle is so kind that he doesn’t even support the pipe ... laughing laughing laughing
  21. 0
    24 October 2017 15: 04
    The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine .........
  22. 0
    24 October 2017 18: 32
    The sooner Russia forgets about the "brotherly" people from Ukraine, the better. "The family has its black sheep" - so these "monsters" are Ukrainians!
  23. 0
    25 October 2017 06: 55
    To put control on the Russian-Ukrainian border, to return Kiev to dialogue, and to allow a mess to be entered into relations with European customers !! Ukrainians are nonsense and manipulators, but it is better for us to maintain honest and equal relations with Europe. Without this, they cannot be developed and deepened. So let Kiev sit overboard and howls for its rudeness and betrayal !!!!
  24. 0
    27 October 2017 13: 48
    Cho Pyatrukh smoked glass wool or something.
  25. 0
    27 October 2017 17: 12
    To warn Kuev that in the event of theft of gas, a nuclear missile strike will be launched across the country. Dot. And it's time to take off to tie forever. am
  26. 0
    13 December 2018 12: 55
    "And, to the extent of my meager powers" is incorrectly written, it is necessary to write "my foul powers"

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"