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The journalist Posner answered the media reports about support for Sobchak with an anecdote

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Vladimir Pozner denied reports of Russian publications that he allegedly supports the nomination of Ksenia Sobchak for the presidency, reports RIA News.




According to Posner, he does not provide any support for TV presenter Sobchak, however, he considers it useful to be able to vote “against all”.

In this case, this opportunity returns Ksenia Sobchak,
explained the journalist in his Instagram.

He commented on the messages of support of the “candidate against all” with irony.

I remember a joke about Rabinovich telling Finkelstein: "Did you hear that Tsiperovich won five thousand rubles in poker?" To which Finkelstein replies: "Not at poker, but at the races, not five thousand rubles, but a hundred, and did not win, but lost, but everything is correct,"
wrote posner.

Recall that on Wednesday Ksenia Sobchak announced her intention to run for president of the Russian Federation. She declared herself as a candidate "against all" and urged not to boycott the elections.

LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky and head of Yabloko Grigory Yavlinsky are also planning to run for the presidency.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 22 October 2017 19: 17 New
    24
    I naively believed that the Russian elections were vulgarized to the last extreme.
    And then Sobchak knocked from below.

    By the way, the plan of turnout for the elections comes down the cities and towns. The figure, according to unverified rumors, (do not ask for scans of documents) fluctuates around 70-75%.

    Are you firm with your intention to boycott the vote again?
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 22 October 2017 19: 20 New
      42
      Quote: Pereira
      By the way, the plan of turnout for the elections comes down the cities and towns. The figure, according to unverified rumors (do not ask for scans of documents), fluctuates around 75%.

      And here is the daughter of the chairman of the election commission. How is everything ambiguous ...smile
      1. poquello
        poquello 22 October 2017 19: 25 New
        +7
        Quote: Thrall
        Quote: Pereira
        By the way, the plan of turnout for the elections comes down the cities and towns. The figure, according to unverified rumors (do not ask for scans of documents), fluctuates around 75%.

        And here is the daughter of the chairman of the election commission. How is everything ambiguous ...smile

        “Come to Lenin’s spirit! Tell the turnout plan for the elections”
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 22 October 2017 19: 34 New
          +5
          Are you aware that the fact of voting is monitored on the lists of the election commission? Or can this never be, for this is a state secret?
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 22 October 2017 19: 48 New
            11
            She declared herself as a candidate “against all” and called Do not boycott the election.

            Here is her main reason for running for office: increased voter turnout! Now you can guess what Putin and Sobchak talked about the day before.
            1. poquello
              poquello 22 October 2017 20: 35 New
              +3
              Quote: SRC P-15
              She declared herself as a candidate “against all” and called Do not boycott the election.

              Here is her main reason for running for office: increased voter turnout! Now you can guess what Putin and Sobchak talked about the day before.

              maybe the meaning? and without it go
              1. hrych
                hrych 22 October 2017 20: 37 New
                +5
                Quote: poquello
                maybe the meaning?

                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 22 October 2017 22: 03 New
                  +7
                  Ksenia has one psychological trickwhich might work to the "fool"!
                  This is what she advertises herself, exactly how anti-all candidate!
                  What political strategists helped her in this - I do not know, but it seems that they are American or pro-American.
                  Ksenia’s psychological calculation is based on the fact that “against all” will receive “yes” on the machine among voters who do not delve into the essence of the principle, as was the case when voting for Yeltsin.Remember the cry for EBN - "Yes, yes, no, yes!" ?!
                  The same thing could work in the case of Ksenia Sobchak with her "Against all!"! So to say, at the moronic courage of the politically immature and overripe of some Russian voters.
                  1. Rey_ka
                    Rey_ka 23 October 2017 10: 10 New
                    +1
                    Then let him change his name to: "Against all"
                2. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 22 October 2017 23: 32 New
                  +4
                  Quote: hrych
                  hrych

                  Well for Klitschko this is still a very erudite comment. They say in Kiev glad they go to him like to Petrosyan.
                3. Krabik
                  Krabik 23 October 2017 16: 30 New
                  +1
                  Klitschko is trying to mow under Lavrov, but so far it’s not perfect ...
            2. Primoos
              Primoos 22 October 2017 21: 00 New
              20
              We must vote for the future of our country, and not for the provocations of the Jew Posner. To whom the daughter of the embezzler with a horse's face and a dirty little soul is sweet, he will vote for Ksenia a toilet seat. And there are, I’m sure.
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              2. ltc35
                ltc35 23 October 2017 13: 21 New
                0
                The second place is provided to her, sadly ...
                1. Krabik
                  Krabik 23 October 2017 16: 32 New
                  0
                  This is unlikely.

                  Even Navalny will not be 2nd.
                2. poquello
                  poquello 23 October 2017 18: 47 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ltc35
                  The second place is provided to her, sadly ...

                  oh well, they don’t go to the polls - who basically doesn’t go and no Sobchak will pull them out of there, and Zhirik was the whole candidate as an alternative candidate - as if everything were wrong for the LDPR
            3. 34 region
              34 region 22 October 2017 23: 42 New
              +2
              19.48. SRC! Of course, I understand that Sobchak is the daughter of teacher Putin. But you can increase the turnout of voters in another way. You can simply put all odious candidates into the race. What will it give? Let's say 20% of voters vote for Putin. Let everyone race. And Navalny, and Sobchak, and the party of parents with many children, and the party of disabled people, and the party of affordable housing and communal services and so on. What will it give? Everyone will receive parties of interest. What will it give? This will give a spray of opinions and votes. As a result, Putin receives 20% of the iron votes outweighing many others. Therefore, I completely admit the presence of such candidates as Sobchak and Navalny. 100% they will not go. But what a plus! All opinions were expressed and admitted! The turnout is expected to be record-breaking (after all, there is an expression of all opinions, there is even a party of the mentally ill!). And who can blame anyone's rights? And what will be the result? Putin’s stunning and knockout victory! I am not kidding. Just an elementary calculation. When Prokhorov was chosen, it was a trial election. He did not pass and could not pass. But then someone was able to express their opinion. So it will be with Sobchak. I don’t think she will have many votes. How did she prove herself? What are her accomplishments? Not e e! I understand that she is from the same city as Putin. And Putin’s team is also from there. But she's a little out of that sandbox.
              1. rruvim
                rruvim 23 October 2017 01: 16 New
                +1
                This is the whole point! If you “release” everyone (including “Natsik”), then the team leader will gain 40% (for sure), but the turnout will be at 70%. And if he, only Ksyushu Sobchak (the trinity of “system engineers” does not count), then he will gain 78%, the rest will be “system specialists” (Ksyusha no more than 2%) with an appearance of 25-30%. What will be more legitimate for World Opinion? * The first option, or the second? His environment clearly inspires the “Foreman” the second option, it is simpler, more reliable. Attendance and "attribute" is possible. And in the "evil" languages ​​from the West we’ll answer that Ksyusha was still allowed ... It’s more correct, after all, that the GDP would choose the first option, and there you can’t do without Navalny. And he would have won in a fair fight. Although, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, Navalny would have to provide free airtime.
                1. dik-nsk
                  dik-nsk 23 October 2017 07: 42 New
                  +4
                  to allow Oval, you need to change the law, because the substitute criminal can’t participate .. do you propose to follow up and change the law for him? and then let’s say in the compartment Shakro Molodoy, but let all the layers be presented))
              2. andj61
                andj61 23 October 2017 09: 04 New
                +3
                Quote: 34 region
                19.48. SRC! Of course, I understand that Sobchak is the daughter of teacher Putin. But you can increase the turnout of voters in another way. You can simply put all odious candidates into the race. What will it give? Let's say 20% of voters vote for Putin. Let everyone race. And Navalny, and Sobchak, and the party of parents with many children, and the party of disabled people, and the party of affordable housing and communal services and so on. What will it give? Everyone will receive parties of interest. What will it give? This will give a spray of opinions and votes. As a result, Putin receives 20% of the iron votes outweighing many others. Therefore, I completely admit the presence of such candidates as Sobchak and Navalny. 100% they will not go. But what a plus!

                Quote: rruvim
                This is the whole point! If you “release” everyone (including “Natsik”), then the team leader will gain 40% (for sure), but the turnout will be at 70%. And if he, only Ksyushu Sobchak (the trinity of “system engineers” does not count), then he will gain 78%, the rest will be “system specialists” (Ksyusha no more than 2%) with a turnout of 25-30%. What will be more legitimate for World Opinion? * The first option, or the second? His environment clearly inspires the “Foreman” the second option, it is simpler, more reliable. Attendance and "attribute" is possible.

                1. In any case, 60-70% of voters will participate in the elections.
                2. The admission of "all in a row" candidates on the final percent of interest will not have any effect: the biggest one from non-systemic people will be able to get 5% of the vote - this will not even affect the percentage of the main candidates.
                3. In order to allow Navalny to go to the polls, it is urgent to change the electoral legislation in order to allow the registration of presidential candidates with an outstanding criminal record. I think that such a thing is simply unacceptable - we don’t accept such people in the civil service, but here we are in the presidency!
                4. For Putin at a turnout of 70%, at least 60% will vote, with a turnout of 100% - about 50%, and there may be options with a 2nd round. And this is perfectly calculated by the authorities. So the general appearance is not at all in their interests. Local authorities may try to secure a gigantic turnout in order to score points within the EP, but this is not very necessary for top management.
                Conclusion: the people will still vote for Putin, there is not even any falsification needed, on the contrary, they are harmful to the authorities, as they will allow at least to doubt the honesty of the elections. Those candidates who could compete with Putin do not participate in the elections, and they themselves do not need this. Such, in my opinion, are, for example, Shoigu and Lavrov. hi
                1. Socialism 2.0
                  Socialism 2.0 23 October 2017 09: 17 New
                  +2
                  Lavrov and Schoigu - presidential candidates ?! do not make me laugh.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 23 October 2017 09: 21 New
                    +3
                    Quote: 2.0 Socialism
                    Lavrov and Schoigu - presidential candidates ?! do not make me laugh.

                    That's right - these are people for whom they can REALLY vote, who are really promoted in the media field, who are known on the positive side to the broad masses of the people. yes Try to name any more surnames! wink
                    Another question is that these people will not even think about nominating their candidacies - and for obvious reasons! bully hi
                    1. volodimer
                      volodimer 23 October 2017 17: 32 New
                      +1
                      They can be nominated if the GDP decides not to go to the polls. We have already passed President Medvedev. The West was counting on him ... but the prime minister did not let him turn around ...
                2. 34 region
                  34 region 23 October 2017 11: 42 New
                  +1
                  09.04/XNUMX. Anji! So what is it about. Admitting odious candidates to the elections, we will show the world our freedom of choice. We will show the horror of Putin’s opponents to the people. Admitting a ton of candidates, let’s spray our voices and Putin will win guaranteed. But then the mouth will be closed about the inaccessibility of the opposition getting into power. Here is the result. The opposition took part and everyone sent it! On the part of the government, this is a very smart move to expose Sobchak. Maybe Kudrin will still want to. Let Makarevich try. But you never know! hi
            4. Cube123
              Cube123 23 October 2017 09: 07 New
              +3
              Quote: SRC P-15
              She declared herself as a candidate “against all” and called Do not boycott the election.

              Here is her main reason for running for office: increased voter turnout! Now you can guess what Putin and Sobchak talked about the day before.

              The problem is different. It is urgent to add the column "Against All" to the ballot. Otherwise, up to 60% of the population, out of a sense of contradiction, can vote for Ksyusha and we will legally receive an irresponsible President.
          2. 210ox
            210ox 22 October 2017 20: 23 New
            +6
            Well ..? What's next? Decinement of not voted will be carried out?
            Quote: Pereira
            Are you aware that the fact of voting is monitored on the lists of the election commission? Or can this never be, for this is a state secret?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 22 October 2017 20: 54 New
              +1
              Did you, like, joke? But in real life this is not so funny.
              1. Rey_ka
                Rey_ka 23 October 2017 10: 08 New
                0
                As there from the "Diamond Hand": And do not come to the vote, turn off the gas!
            2. andj61
              andj61 23 October 2017 09: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: 210ox
              So what's next?Decination not voted will hold?
              Quote: Pereira
              Are you aware that the fact of voting is monitored on the lists of the election commission? Or can this never be, for this is a state secret?

              What is decination?
              Maybe you mean "decimation"?
              Decimation (from lat. Decimatio, from decimus - “(every) tenth”) - the execution of every tenth by lot, the highest measure of disciplinary punishment in the Roman army.
          3. poquello
            poquello 22 October 2017 20: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Pereira
            Are you aware that the fact of voting is monitored on the lists of the election commission? Or can this never be, for this is a state secret?

            Are you aware that the turnout is factual and not written by the election commission?
            Plans can be for campaigning and advertising campaigns.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 22 October 2017 20: 53 New
              +6
              I know something. Do you know HOW in reality the actual appearance is provided?
              1. poquello
                poquello 22 October 2017 22: 00 New
                +5
                Quote: Pereira
                I know something. Do you know HOW in reality the actual appearance is provided?

                Are you talking about driving workers to the sites? so this is a matter of business, to demand for a candidate - an article, but it is not forbidden to drive to elections
                1. Yura
                  Yura 22 October 2017 23: 43 New
                  +2
                  Quote: poquello
                  and drive to the polls is not forbidden

                  This is ours, I read one article here, a nightmare in my opinion
                  The electoral system of many states of the world allows punishing citizens for ignoring the institution of elections. Moreover, the list of countries with strict legislation also includes states with great democratic traditions. Absenteeism is punished in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, Greece, Egypt, Luxembourg, Turkey, Pakistan and other countries.

                  RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/spravka/20140626/1013682909.html
                  there are penalties from fines to prison sentences.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 23 October 2017 00: 46 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Jura
                    Quote: poquello
                    and drive to the polls is not forbidden

                    This is ours, I read one article here, a nightmare in my opinion
                    The electoral system of many states of the world allows punishing citizens for ignoring the institution of elections. Moreover, the list of countries with strict legislation also includes states with great democratic traditions. Absenteeism is punished in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, Greece, Egypt, Luxembourg, Turkey, Pakistan and other countries.

                    RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/spravka/20140626/1013682909.html
                    there are penalties from fines to prison sentences.

                    so we have bm freely, it is not clear to the bourgeoisie what is left of freedoms in general, well, except for the freedom of fagots naturally
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 22 October 2017 21: 10 New
              +6
              Sharing the obvious laughing The turnout plan, of course, is not written by TECs / PECs, although they also keep their finger on the pulse, so to speak. Basically, the turnout plan is assigned to the directors / owners of enterprises, organizations, etc. Well, each candidate, if he is adequate, has his own turnout plan - purely supporters.
          4. Doliva63
            Doliva63 22 October 2017 21: 05 New
            +8
            At a separate polling station, if desired (and the availability of funds, of course), absolutely everything is monitored - stuffing, a carousel, leaving for "dead souls", voter turnout, carriage, and so on. In just 15 years of work in the elections, I have never heard of the cancellation of the results of the trial in accordance with the law. Only once did he witness how the prosecutor's office (based on the aggregate evidence of mass violations), in order to avoid scandal, convinced the losing candidate not to write a statement. Convinced laughing
            1. poquello
              poquello 22 October 2017 21: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Doliva63
              In just 15 years of work in the elections, I have never heard of the cancellation of the results of the trial in accordance with the law.

              I don’t know, “I’m not cooking utensils,” someone caught the last, canceled, kicked out, started a business, then was not interested, but very pleased
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 22 October 2017 22: 42 New
                +4
                I am not talking about canceling the results of voting at PECs, but about canceling the election results. However, for the last 3 years I have not followed this, I won’t sport,
                1. poquello
                  poquello 22 October 2017 23: 46 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  I am not talking about canceling the results of voting at PECs, but about canceling the election results.

                  Well, this is something completely elementary, what - were there violations that could change the result?
      2. Monos
        Monos 22 October 2017 19: 33 New
        23
        Quote: Thrall
        And here is the daughter of the chairman of the election commission. How is everything ambiguous ...

        A taxi driver friend of mine told me that his cousin, chairman of the election commission in Birobidzhan, had already received ballot papers for stuffing, but indignantly threw them into Amur and said that there would be no merry-go-rounds in his district! But then the orderlies came and took from him a seal made of bread crumb. Putin is fierce!
      3. Dimachrus
        Dimachrus 22 October 2017 22: 12 New
        +5
        I wildly apologize, but looking at the confrontation of comments on VO over the past couple of years, I involuntarily draw attention to the finer work of some commentators trying to undermine the opinions of people sincerely confident in the strength and justice of their country (I’m not enthusiastic about the servants of the people, but I love my homeland)
        But the answers of our people to such characters are always encouraging))))
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 22 October 2017 19: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Pereira
      I naively believed that the Russian elections were vulgarized to the last extreme.
      And then Sobchak knocked from below.

      And in general it is not clear how two mares “mind, honor and conscience” can get along in the same harness at once?
      YavSob for a couple to one steering wheel stretch?)))

      At least one horse should have a different nickname, such as a patriot or a brave man, well, at least an anarchist in the end.
      1. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 23 October 2017 04: 12 New
        +1
        there is one mare, but not "mind, honor and conscience", but one rider
        1. askort154
          askort154 23 October 2017 06: 32 New
          +1
          Hammerlock .....there is one mare, but not "mind, honor and conscience", but one rider

          This horse is more beautiful. yes
    3. stas
      stas 22 October 2017 19: 59 New
      +1
      Sobakina joy Ksyusha at the request of the Tsar will try to increase turnout in the election of the Tsar.
      But the Tsar did so, it is better not to go to the polls. The election results are predetermined, it remains only to force more than 50% to come to the polls, if it is less then the king will be fake.
      The king removed all worthy preintents from politics.
      Zhirik, Zyu and sogovina joy is the whole alignment.
      Either the King or the dog’s joy, choose the people and rejoice.
      It’s better not to go to the polls.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 22 October 2017 20: 33 New
        +4
        The tsar removed all worthy preintents from politics .... I understand that a damn thing..A..It’s better not to go to the polls. Is that a voice against the "aunt horse"?
        Quote: stas
        Sobakina joy Ksyusha at the request of the Tsar will try to increase turnout in the election of the Tsar.
        But the Tsar did so, it is better not to go to the polls. The election results are predetermined, it remains only to force more than 50% to come to the polls, if it is less then the king will be fake.
        The king removed all worthy preintents from politics.
        Zhirik, Zyu and sogovina joy is the whole alignment.
        Either the King or the dog’s joy, choose the people and rejoice.
        It’s better not to go to the polls.
      2. poquello
        poquello 22 October 2017 20: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: stas
        Sobakina joy Ksyusha at the request of the Tsar will try to increase turnout in the election of the Tsar.
        But the Tsar did so, it is better not to go to the polls. The election results are predetermined, it remains only to force more than 50% to come to the polls, if it is less then the king will be fake.
        The king removed all worthy preintents from politics.
        Zhirik, Zyu and sogovina joy is the whole alignment.
        Either the King or the dog’s joy, choose the people and rejoice.
        It’s better not to go to the polls.

        unconvincing version, people with any candidates for the current ones will go for Putin
      3. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 23 October 2017 10: 06 New
        0
        List of WELCOME pzhlst
    4. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 22 October 2017 20: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Pereira
      By the way, the plan of turnout for the elections comes down the cities and towns. The figure, according to unverified rumors, (do not ask for scans of documents) fluctuates around 70-75%.

      What's this? Do you propose that voters not be allowed to go to the polls? We have a turnout of 98-99%! How do I select who to give a vote and who not? laughing
      1. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 23 October 2017 10: 04 New
        0
        It’s easier in cities, the turnout is more sluggish. And members of the election commission should not only warm the chair on the hut. the site but also walk around the apartments, it seems like it will explain to talk with the electorate. Therefore, if below 70% means they worked poorly
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 22 October 2017 21: 13 New
      12
      Quote: Pereira
      I naively believed that the Russian elections were vulgarized to the last extreme.
      And then Sobchak knocked from below.

      I read komenty, and after your koment all somnings disappeared. A raging visit to the Kremlin by the former owner of a house menagerie under the guise of House-2 is not accidental. Some will consider it for GDP. others, on the contrary, will sway to the bulk and other grant-giving political parties. And the catchphrase: against all is the calculation of political technology for me. Image - I am like you all, I want to work, travel, etc. I am against the snickering power. Here after that:
      only the same unscrupulous creature as Polonsky can claim the role of president of the Russian Federation. First: who doesn’t have a lard, go to ... I collected 6 lard from interest holders, because of the crisis, the business began to crumble, went to ask the government for money. When he was reminded there of the vector for those who do not have a lard, he was offended, and fled to Cambodia.
      And this one ... Let him go to Ukraine, together with Maksakova participate in the presidential elections in Ukraine. Suddenly lucky.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 October 2017 23: 50 New
        +1
        21.13. Baloo! Yes, ah! Hard comment! But fair! Nothing to argue. hi
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 23 October 2017 08: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: 34 region
          21.13. Baloo! Yes, ah! Hard comment! But fair! Nothing to argue. hi

          You see, brother, she began preparing for this company a long time before pregnancy. This is her new project. I traveled by chose across the CIS countries telling the unfortunate women (judging by the pictures from the audience) how to become successful. So much for the electorate, but not all. Now he will rely on young people and middle-aged citizens who are dissatisfied with their salaries and future retirement, and it is imperative that Mother Teresa take care of the orphans, the wretched, the disabled, and those who wear epaulettes.
          Pay attention, tonality has changed. She now speaks almost like GDP, creating the illusion that she speaks to everyone.
          There are still many suggestible and gullible, they hope that someone will come and help. For me, the measure of man is deeds, and words are only reflections of thoughts. You need to listen and hear, then the hidden meaning will manifest itself anyway. hi
    6. Goga pinochetov
      Goga pinochetov 22 October 2017 22: 40 New
      0
      So you need to overfulfill the plan, contrary to such calls.
    7. kos2910
      kos2910 23 October 2017 05: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      By the way, the plan of turnout goes down the cities and towns

      Do not carry garbage. Public sector employees can still be somehow forced to go out, but the bulk? Even if you add the defense industry. Well, then, even a state employee is not forced to vote for someone specifically.
  2. volodya
    volodya 22 October 2017 19: 17 New
    32
    I would sit in the "house-2"
    1. corporal
      corporal 22 October 2017 19: 46 New
      +9
      Quote: volodya
      I would sit in the "house-2"

      There is a better alternative
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 22 October 2017 19: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: Corporal
        There is a better alternative

        vomiting however without even opening no
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 October 2017 20: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: pjastolov
          vomiting however without even opening

          Come on, Picasso has surpassed everyone in canning! good Guess,
          what's in the bank?
        2. reservist
          reservist 22 October 2017 21: 46 New
          +3
          - Sobchak is beautiful !!!
          - Sivaya, Sivaya, Sivaya, - answered the echo. love
      2. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 22 October 2017 21: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Corporal
        There is a better alternative

        Why did you offend the horses? laughing They are beautiful, smart and graceful! And also working, clean, loyal. None of these qualities is possessed by the person depicted on your bank. Even to the can. laughing it’s not worth sculpting.
    2. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 23 October 2017 09: 52 New
      +1
      If Ksenia is the leader, then the whole country HOUSE 2
  3. evil partisan
    evil partisan 22 October 2017 19: 18 New
    +1
    But Posner became a true liberal liberal relatively recently, already in the era of Putin. even in the most terrible 90s, he somehow managed to maneuver between the camps of "universal people" and patriots. But somewhere in the region of 2007-2008, something broke there inside ...
  4. LSA57
    LSA57 22 October 2017 19: 26 New
    +8
    LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky and head of Yabloko Grigory Yavlinsky are also planning to run for the presidency.

    where is the Communist Party? Is Zyuganov over? Odaaako ....
  5. poquello
    poquello 22 October 2017 19: 28 New
    +3
    cool "candidate Sobchak", will compete with Yavlinsky
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2017 19: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: poquello
      cool "candidate Sobchak", will compete with Yavlinsky

      they can only compete with each other
      1. poquello
        poquello 22 October 2017 20: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: poquello
        cool "candidate Sobchak", will compete with Yavlinsky

        they can only compete with each other

        in this election only if someone declares, so to speak, “will designate himself,” unless of course Putin goes
  6. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 22 October 2017 19: 30 New
    +6
    According to Pozner, he does not provide any support to TV presenter Sobchak, however ...

    Two Jews meet. One asks the other:
    “Are you, by any chance, not a Jew?”
    - A Jew, but not by chance.

    Candidates for the presidency of Russia, only Jews registered, the question is: what candidate will the cunning vote for ...
  7. Umnichka
    Umnichka 22 October 2017 19: 46 New
    +3
    I don’t even know who to vote for - either for Yavlinsky, or for Sobchachka ... I was confused ...
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 22 October 2017 20: 33 New
      0
      And if Dmitry Rogozin ran for. Would you vote?
  8. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 October 2017 20: 00 New
    14
    I think that the GDP is not yet ready to leave ... too much has been done and much has been started to give it all to the new president, who can safely bury and ruin it all. And today, I do not see an equivalent substitute for him, unfortunately or fortunately, let everyone choose for themselves what is closer to him.
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 22 October 2017 20: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: NEXUS
      And today, I do not see an equivalent substitute for him

      And who in 1999 even saw the President in him ?? Even our military officers at EVAKU spat: "Some kind of KGB officer !!". But here you go: 18 years as a bush in power. With a short replacement at the post ... And the result? Simply - good
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 22 October 2017 20: 39 New
        +5
        The result is not yet visible. The Russian miracle, following the example of the Chinese, did not happen. He understood three terms only with "caps (who has what?)" (I don’t know, sorted it out?), Maybe for this new term he will deal with the domestic economy. And not just external wars. Then I am FOR!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 October 2017 20: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: rruvim
          The result is not yet visible. The Russian miracle, following the example of the Chinese, did not happen.

          For a miracle, you need at least the Soviet birth rate, namely, a million new people every year ... then we will have a miracle, like the Chinese.
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 22 October 2017 21: 00 New
            10
            Oh really? Those. the doctrine that the liberation of the peasants from serfdom in 1861 was associated with the development of industry in Russia, and dispossession in the late 20s with Industrialization? Need hands? Now is the 21st century. Young people in Russia (I have four guys) are ready to work for the country, but do not understand on what terms. No one offers the conditions. There are suggestions, well, they are ridiculous. And since our children know English, they look there ... And how many do not hammer them patriotism. And all the "fetishes" on TV: "How good and pleasant it is to work in Russia ..." - BJIK! When they put an engineer from 120 thousand, and a worker somewhere from 000 thousand, and at the factories of the "adjacent" state corporations, then the "Russian Miracle" will appear. Central Bank inflation, ostensibly not. And for 90 thousand a month, a person will hammer a “Proton” sensor with a hammer, and a storekeeper in Voronezh will go to the “hospital”.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 22 October 2017 21: 15 New
              +8
              Quote: rruvim
              When they put an engineer from 120 thousand, and a worker somewhere from 000 thousand, and at the factories of the "adjacent" state corporations, then the "Russian Miracle" will appear. Central Bank inflation, ostensibly not. And for 90 thousand a month, a person will hammer a “Proton” sensor with a hammer, and a storekeeper in Voronezh will go to the “hospital”.

              I read everything that you wrote ... everything seems to be true, write ... but everything just doesn’t happen at once. Maybe this is not a correct comparison, but during the period of industrialization in the USSR, no one was chasing iPhones. There was ideology and patriotism (no matter how ridiculous it may sound under current trends). It’s clear that you want to earn more, drive a more luxurious car, live in a bigger house, go not to the Crimea or to the country house to your mother-in-law, but to the Maldives ... but somehow people at that time were doing without tayots, country villas, trips to Egypt and Spain and brand clothes ... I’m not saying that you have to live like a scoop, when everything is the same, from paycheck to paycheck ... Putin did not introduce these sanctions, he did not lower the price of oil, and he didn’t he will work for us. Your children, of course, will leave to work abroad, where there are salaries, where clothes, where civilization ... it will take 20 years, and when, God forbid, those who remain will fix everything, build, create conditions for a normal life, your children will certainly return to everything is ready. And they will certainly consider themselves patriots.
              You forgive me .. that's it, thoughts out loud.
              1. rruvim
                rruvim 22 October 2017 21: 42 New
                +3
                Normal thoughts. This post is about Judea Pozner and about the familiar GDP of Ksenia Sobchak (almost "nursed"). And when we talk about our children, we are not indifferent to what they have in mind. Propaganda is good, but they get information, now not only from officialdom. There are social networks, there is still a bunch of "crap". But they are not fools, if you admit, then we, too, were fools at their age (Komsomol members). Their position why they support Navalny (not only mine, but also their friends) is quite clear (I doubt him), this is just a protest, because college, the school split into two parts. There are Komsomol activists, those who are for United Russia, and there is the opposition, who are for Navalny. Some are teachers' favorites, others are outcasts. Neither one nor the other does not understand what is the point. Just a game ... This is in ordinary schools. In universities, everything is already serious. There is only one seriousness: Everyone is against EP, but they are divided into fractions. Some of the provinces for United Russia (given a lesson), some Muscovites, or Moscow Region - for any party other than United Russia. All this applies only to 25% maximum, the remaining 75% "nevermind."
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 22 October 2017 22: 02 New
                  +7
                  Quote: rruvim
                  But they are not fools, if you admit, then we were also fools at their age (Komsomol members)

                  You know, I don’t think that the data of the Komsomol organization, the October Revolution, the pioneers were from stupidity and a desire to zombie young people. After all, if we had not lived then under such an ideology, who knows what language they would now speak in Russia. You can swear ideology and the Union, on the contrary, we can say that it was the best time in the history of Russia and the states of the former Union. I do not want to argue on this topic, as everyone has their own memories (if they were born in the USSR) or judgments about who was born after.
                  Bulk, Sobchag, Yavlinsky and so on ... they have always been, at all times in the history of Russia. And it just so happened that such people did not bring anything good to these lands. I do not protect GDP, but only reflect ... for all the corruption, sanctions, the collapse of the industrial sector, the army, etc., because they are restoring industry and the army, building a new one, reanimating the old. Who knows, maybe the GDP is the person under whose management it did not become worse than it could be.
                  As for youth ... so it is a matter of belief and education. Young people live in a different rhythm, which dictates to them a simple thought - to get as much as possible and immediately. Therefore, the talk of patriotism, the restoration of the country, work for the future does not touch them at all. Someone else is not me. I'd rather go to Germany, the USA, England, make money, buy a house, a car, etc. and everything will be fine with me. But patriotism ... once a year, at the procession of the Immortal regiment and proud speeches about their ancestors.
                  1. rruvim
                    rruvim 22 October 2017 22: 25 New
                    +5
                    Dear Nexus. I remind you that the Brigadier has been the foreman since 2001. Over the 17 years a new generation has grown, and it, this generation is not visible at the Factories! And I think that in the next 6 years you will not see. I judge secondary and special education. The whole claim to the GDP is that he did not create a normal economy, except for the proliferated bureaucracy, which, due to the presence of an incomprehensible amount of computers, makes it possible to “drive” paper flows even more. His only (geopolitical) merit is only the return of Crimea.
                    His new sixth birthday scares me with a new war, but not like not building new factories. Most likely new olympiads and sports facilities. The economy on the "spectacles" will not last long ...
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 22 October 2017 22: 36 New
                      +3
                      Quote: rruvim
                      Dear Nexus. I remind you that the Brigadier has been the foreman since 2001. Over the 17 years a new generation has grown, and it, this generation is not visible at the Factories!

                      Dear rruvim. You may not see the new generation, but this does not mean that you can judge the whole country.
                      Quote: rruvim
                      The whole claim to the GDP is that he did not create a normal economy, except for the proliferated bureaucracy, which, due to the presence of an incomprehensible amount of computers, makes it possible to “drive” paper flows even more.

                      And let's remember what he inherited from EBN. What in 2001 worked normally in Russia, do not remind?
                      For 17 years, a man has been trying to make the country better. But here's the catch, that the children don’t understand that there will be no salaries of 100 thousand each at a dollar of 30 rubles. To do this, you have to plow, work for your country. But why? After all, there are those who agree to 20 thousand, and especially the cunning youth will knock over the hill, to earn money there. But at the same time, reasonably arguing that for 17 years the GDP did nothing special. So that’s why it’s not being done faster than we would like, for example, to raise the country, if there are fools around, and I am among all Dartanyans.
                      Quote: rruvim
                      His only (geopolitical) merit is only the return of Crimea.

                      That is, GDP simply does not have other merits? Well, let it remain on your conscience.
                      Quote: rruvim
                      His new sixth birthday scares me with a new war, but not like not building new factories.

                      Can I find out with whom?
                      Quote: rruvim
                      Most likely new olympiads and sports facilities. The economy on the "spectacles" will not last long ...

                      Just do not need these cliches. At the same time, sports facilities and the Olympics are so detrimental to young people that the guard is direct.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 22 October 2017 22: 41 New
                        +5
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        the children don’t understand that immediately there will be no salaries of 100 thousand with a dollar of 30 rubles.

                        Nexus, have you looked at the dollar for a long time? sad
                      2. rruvim
                        rruvim 22 October 2017 22: 56 New
                        +3
                        To list you wars, I’ll immediately make a reservation “I agree with them,” but there are wars: 1999 - Second Chechen, 2008 - second Georgian, 2015 - first Syrian. I won’t talk about the outskirts, there is no war there ... What geopolitical merits does the GDP have except Crimea? After all, it concerns my conscience. Concerning the new war - it’s easy: LEBANON (only "not with anyone").
                        In occasion of "spectacles" on youth, and how! And the cliche has nothing to do with it, the Zenit stadium for “blades” does not bring up any engineering youth for you!
                      3. 34 region
                        34 region 23 October 2017 00: 05 New
                        +5
                        22.36. Nexus! Well, what country did Putin accept after EBN? Is it worse than in the 20s or 30s? Or worse than in October 1941? This is how in the 30s they were able to carry out industrialization, and in the 41st, 42nd they were able to transport plants and establish output? How after the 45th were able to create nuclear weapons and missiles? Well here is how? Stalin got the best country? Why was Stalin able to raise the country twice, but Putin could not even once? Why did not Stalin integrate with the West, and Putin is eager for integration? Why did Stalin integrate part of the world into Russia, and Putin does not integrate anything, and even blew Ukraine?
                      4. faiver
                        faiver 23 October 2017 05: 01 New
                        +2
                        You say the Olympics and sports facilities? I’ll give an example - I live far away, in Yakutsk — we also have “small Olympiads” hosted sports games “Children of Asia”, built sports facilities for budget money, there are almost no free sections for children, and thirty percent of the population can afford paid sections, and the rest how? Why then all this? and these sports objects must still be maintained and they eat from the budget, given our climate. Oh, it’s not a little ... here you have the impact on the youth ...
                    2. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 23 October 2017 00: 19 New
                      +5
                      Quote: 34 region
                      22.36. Nexus! Well, what country did Putin accept after EBN? Is it worse than in the 20s or 30s?

                      No need to juggle, dear. There were 15 republics! and not one ruined and plundered Russia. And there were tough measures, which at that time pulled the country, as it is not paradoxical.
                      Quote: 34 region
                      Or worse than in October 1941?

                      There, dear, there was ideology and patriotism (albeit blind), but he was.
                      Quote: 34 region
                      Stalin got the best country?

                      Stalin got a country with great potential and people who believe him. At the same time, this country won the victory in the Great Patriotic War ... notice not only Russia, but the USSR, that is, 15 BROTHER REPUBLICS.
                      Quote: 34 region
                      Why was Stalin able to raise the country twice, but Putin could not even once?

                      Apparently he first needed to recreate the USSR, and then transplant gorlopans like Sobchag and Navalny ... then maybe everything in Russia would go faster.
                      Quote: 34 region
                      Why did not Stalin integrate with the West, and Putin is eager for integration?

                      Because the West has proposed obviously unfavorable conditions for this integration for us. But Putin is integrating strongly? Thoth from this integration imposed sanctions on us and yell at every corner that we are the axis of evil.
                      Quote: 34 region
                      and even blew Ukraine?

                      That is, the Ukrainians are asking ... is Putin to blame for his country too?
                      1. 34 region
                        34 region 23 October 2017 12: 06 New
                        0
                        00.19. Nexus! 15 republics were. But so that they did not run away, they could be brought together. And Russia itself almost broke up into principalities. They gathered Russia and integrated republics into Russia. I doubt that Putin could put Sobchak and the opposition. He himself is a nominee from this opposition. Therefore, they imposed sanctions because they constantly broke into their house. Homeless people or poor relatives would come to you and start breaking into your house and swing their rights. And that they imposed sanctions, they did the right thing. They wanted integration and life according to the laws of the West !? Here, get it and sign it! So we are to blame for the sanctions. We had to develop ourselves, and not take them offshore. And what Ukraine was purged with, yes, Putin is to blame. He promised to wet at distant approaches, to prevent June 22. But could not. Amers occupied the outskirts. And they did it without military aviation, missiles and tanks. Russia politically purged Ukraine. At first, Gorbachev moved the West to our east, now Putin’s policy allowed the Amertians to invade our outskirts. In Syria, we fight for the interests of the oil and gas sector. In Iraq, the Kurds agreed on oil production. I don’t know what it is. Our success or getting into a trap or an agreement with the USA (we give them Ukraine, they give us a few oil fields in the East). hi
            2. Vasya Vassin
              Vasya Vassin 22 October 2017 22: 25 New
              0
              A sober look at things. But it’s more important for us to build stadiums ...
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 22 October 2017 23: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: rruvim
          The result is not yet visible. The Russian miracle, following the example of the Chinese, did not happen. He understood three terms only with "caps (who has what?)" (I don’t know, sorted it out?), Maybe for this new term he will deal with the domestic economy. And not just external wars.
          Drunk made the country a colony of psa. At least someone scolded him for this? Destruction of the economy, demography. How many people died ahead of time. This is equal to defeat in the war. Have you forgotten about this? Or didn’t they know?
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 22 October 2017 23: 49 New
            +1
            I did not scold him. Just in the "White House" in October 1993, "expressed" his position the whole blockade. What were you doing at that moment?
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 23 October 2017 09: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: rruvim
              I did not scold him. Just in the "White House" in October 1993, "expressed" his position the whole blockade. What were you doing at that moment?

              What I did? Like many others I went to school, in the second grade. Adults at home and at school did not talk with children about this. Yes, in fact, not everyone probably understood what was happening. I remember that time with different household details. Probably, they did not scold, it didn’t even occur to me, they waited for things to work out.
    2. rruvim
      rruvim 22 October 2017 20: 31 New
      +2
      No one sees a replacement for GDP. Well, if you declare democracy, then "let" a couple of liberals and Russian nationalists to the heap, but those who have the "weight". Bulk for example, or Limonov. Why be afraid?
      1. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 22 October 2017 21: 20 New
        +2
        then "let" a couple of liberals and Russian nationalists to the heap, but those who have "weight". Bulk for example, or Limonov. Why be afraid?

        That would be a show! wassat good
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 22 October 2017 23: 43 New
          +2
          Well. It would be interesting! Then, in March, a barbecue at the polling station (who does not fast) could be eaten ... And then again: "Putin, Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Mironov and ... Sobchak." Boredom ...
      2. reservist
        reservist 22 October 2017 21: 44 New
        +2
        Ksenia Sobchak - Putin's Trojan Horse in the opposition camp smile
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        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 22: 39 New
          +9
          Quote: reservist
          Ksenia Sobchak - Putin's Trojan Horse in the opposition camp

          Is it because the same wood? repeat
          1. LeonidL
            LeonidL 23 October 2017 01: 56 New
            +1
            A horse is like a horse, only Putin and his Administration should not be confused and confused - people there are responsible and professional, and they will not bother with such small things. Do not need it. But the owners of Ksyusha and failures such a throw-in is useful on the principle of "torn cats at least a wool tuft." It is useless for nothing, but the stench in the social washes, and here is enough.
            1. Siberian
              Siberian 23 October 2017 09: 30 New
              +3
              Yavlinsky himself personally discounts the potholes. He knows very well that without a fraud, he won’t get any interest. Well, Ksyusha, for a start I would work somewhere, find out what responsibility and other boring nonsense are.
              It is impossible to put V. Pozner on a par with her; he is an intelligent, educated, intelligent person with work experience and logic. For fun, look on the Internet for their debate on Echo of Moscow or on Rain (everything is clear right there), directly dial Posner - Sobchak (almost Elephants and Pugs)
              1. Vasya Vassin
                Vasya Vassin 23 October 2017 10: 28 New
                +2
                How affectionate you are for your disgrace. Yes, in his mind and resourcefulness you will not refuse him, but anyway, he is troubled by this funny face ....
  9. Masya masya
    Masya masya 22 October 2017 20: 01 New
    +8
    According to Pozner, he doesn’t provide any support to TV presenter Sobchak,

    Like, I'm not me and not my horse ... lol
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 22 October 2017 21: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Like, I'm not me and not my horse ...

      Here it is “female solidarity” in all its glory. sad Well, and what of the fact that the fact that Sobchak's face is very reminiscent of a horse? Why broadcast it to the whole country ??
      Although... what You can’t argue against the truth ... request
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 22 October 2017 21: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: wicked partisan
        You can’t argue against the truth ...

        I remembered the joke ...
        here at every house on the door a horseshoe weighs to attract happiness and only at Sobchak as a spare ... wink
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 22 October 2017 21: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: Masya Masya
          and only Sobchak as a spare.

          laughing
          good
          I wouldn’t put a finger in your mouth, Masya Masya ... no
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 22 October 2017 22: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: wicked partisan
            I wouldn’t put a finger in your mouth, Masya Masya ...

            Yes, good I ... inside ... wink
            love
    2. reservist
      reservist 22 October 2017 21: 42 New
      +3
      Here many write about Ksenia Sobchak, such as how it differs from a horse.
      I think it’s all in vain. She is no different from her. yes
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 22 October 2017 21: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: reservist
        She is no different from her.

        oh well ... a horse on its four-times ... two ... three ... four ... and sobchak-two, one, two ... out there how frisky, already wants to ride the presidency ... lol
        1. 34 region
          34 region 23 October 2017 00: 11 New
          +1
          21.49. Masya! So who will let her be president !? Here, they are rather pushing her to the presidential candidates in order to scare the people purely. They cry that Putin is bad. And looked at Sobchak! Mother of God! Yes, Putin is the best! Here, as they say, everything is known in comparison. We looked, compared, were horrified, elected Putin! Purely psychological calculation. hi
        2. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 23 October 2017 02: 07 New
          +6
          According to sources, for a number of technical reasons, the St. Petersburg mare "Ksyusha" will not take part in the races for the Prize of the President of the Russian Federation ....
          Marishka, Salute. !!!!!!!
  10. rruvim
    rruvim 22 October 2017 20: 14 New
    +2
    I thought that a woman, like an "intrigue", would still be Poklonskaya ... I didn’t guess sad. Although my friend, back in 2003, convinced me that Ksyusha was being prepared for the presidency ...
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 22 October 2017 21: 10 New
    0
    People of various kinds come to the presidency. Leaders of the nation, people trying to realize their ambitions or capital. I still do not understand what kind of creative attempts came to mind this lady?
    Wasn’t everything that was possible?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 October 2017 21: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      I still do not understand what kind of creative attempts came to mind this lady?

      How was menopause not considered?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 October 2017 22: 37 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        How was menopause not considered?

        Not at all!
        Still young, but the option in the absence of the brain is quite an overestimated hormone of self-consciousness! A hole in an empty place, and the king’s place comforts the soul, well, something like that ................... ...
        1. 34 region
          34 region 23 October 2017 00: 16 New
          0
          22.37. Apasus! Yeah! But what about the saying: If you are so smart, why so poor !? Is Sobchak smart or poor? What was seized from her during the search? Three crusts of bread acquired by overwork? What did she say about rogues on vacation?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 23 October 2017 07: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: 34 region
            Is Sobchak smart or poor?

            Well, let's say become a beggar with such dad’s capitals and the blessing of power, one still has to think of it.
            But this person herself did not create anything by investing in her daddy’s image, the outside got out, what got out.
  12. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 22 October 2017 21: 17 New
    +1
    how touching - toads, vipers and their intimate relationships.
  13. rruvim
    rruvim 22 October 2017 21: 21 New
    0
    Anecdote:
    Posner comes home, has drunk a lot with Yeltsin ...
    Suddenly a beep, “camera”, voice: “continue the first Moscow-Washington teleconference in the World!”
    Posner jumps up, trying to straighten a nonexistent tie.
    He looks, and around the round table, by candlelight, the Yeltsin family sits and calls: "Who will be the future president of Russia, who will be the future president of Russia?"
    Otherworldly voice:: "GDP !!!"
    Posner is losing consciousness, and is still not found ...
  14. valton
    valton 22 October 2017 21: 32 New
    +2
    I represent: the commander in chief of the Russian Army - Ksyusha Sobchak. Oil painting! laughing
  15. reservist
    reservist 22 October 2017 21: 34 New
    +7
    Ksyusha Sobchak complains to lieutenant Rzhevsky that enemies are compared
    her face with a horse's face. "This is a blatant lie!" - the lieutenant was indignant. "Neither
    a little like. A horse is a noble animal and its face is beautiful
    and I would even say spiritualized. " belay
    1. reservist
      reservist 22 October 2017 21: 36 New
      +5
      “They're both great!” One is better than the other! - admired Rzhevsky, looking
      on horseback ride Ksenia Sobchak wassat
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 22 October 2017 21: 50 New
        0
        And Ksenia Sobchak tapped a gait next to the horse wink
  16. Servla
    Servla 22 October 2017 21: 54 New
    +1
    Sobchachka can not be in the presidency. Imagine only - the Security Council, for example, sits a kind of lady president and ...
    Eats boogers.
  17. abc_alex
    abc_alex 22 October 2017 21: 54 New
    0
    An amazing thing. Well, Sobchak nominated her candidacy, or rather announced her intention to nominate. What is it that everyone is so overexcited? Are suppressed electoral fantasies restless? :) Some freaks have already even begun the election campaign, they are fulfilling yet another stupid draft about the “turnout plan”, “being taken by buses”, “ascribed to millions”.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 22 October 2017 22: 09 New
      +1
      Just not. “They will attribute” how much is necessary - 1,3%, this will be enough. The question is - why is this power necessary? Yes, including her. Presidential choice, this is not a parliamentary choice. This is not a choice of ideology. Thank God the GDP ideology is understandable. Simply, if you want an intrigue: let the liberal-Nazi Navalny, the national-Bolshevik Limonov, come to a heap of "finished" liberal Sobchak. But NOT ONLY HER!
      1. abc_alex
        abc_alex 23 October 2017 01: 42 New
        +2
        Why is it necessary? And just "neighing"? :)
        But seriously, have you seen an elephant in a zoo? Here he stands, thinking about something of his own, doing some of his own business and nevermind him flies and birds.
        And the bureaucratic-raw-material elite that exists today holds power so firmly that it is simply NOT SCARY. But it’s fun to see, for example, how Navalny is trying to be elected mayor of Moscow. Or how it bites in place of the governor of Belykh.

        And now Sobchak wants to be elected as president. Any polit. the technologist will tell you that the dumb daughter of the stealing representative of the Yeltsin elite, noted for cretinous acts and statements, has no greater chance than Putin’s dog. But it’s funny, chesslovo. And it just makes no sense to turn your head in her direction. Not a hat for Senka.

        And Sobchak, obviously, believes that in the chain “blonde in chocolate” -> “leading Dom2” -> leading on “Rain” -> opposition, the next link would logically look like “candidate against Putin”. For her, this is a show in which she will be given as much time on the central media channels for a brief outburst of stupidity as she can never earn with her mind or appearance.

        As for Navalny, in order to admit him to the elections today, more efforts are already needed than in order not to let him in. He has a criminal record under Kirovles and at least five lawsuits against him in the courts of organizations and individuals. You can remove his criminal record, but for this you need to invent something, bear image losses, just strain. What for? Clowns are already in abundance. One Grisha Yavlinsky is worth it :) Well, you see, neither Yavlinsky, nor Navalny, nor Limonov and Sobchak will add any intrigue, even if you consider that Putin’s rating is inflated by 20 percent, you can’t add him anyway.

        There is no intrigue in future elections, objectively no. There is only laughter. Sobchak funnier Navalny :)
  18. rruvim
    rruvim 22 October 2017 22: 01 New
    +1
    There probably already wrote. Well, anyway, I repeat: I "imagine" what Navalny thinks, who has broken his entire forehead in order to break into the candidates. And then his “virtual” partner, the daughter of the head of the GDP, “broke through” without effort ... Yes, Alexei ... Chekists, serious people! fool
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 23 October 2017 01: 55 New
      +1
      Sobchak has not yet broken through. Did it register CenterIzbirCom? :) Since she is not threatened with being elected from the party, here is what she will need:

      For the nomination of candidates directly by voters, proactive education is necessary Group number of voters at least 100 people.
      An electoral association (electoral bloc) or an initiative group of voters nominating a candidate for the position of the President of the Russian Federation shall assemble in his support at least one million voter signatures. Moreover, one subject of the Russian Federation should account for no more than seven percent of the required total number of signatures.


      Let's wait, I strongly suspect that this clowness will not even start collecting signatures. :)
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    1. rruvim
      rruvim 22 October 2017 22: 35 New
      0
      Nobody here held a candle ... fellow
  20. rruvim
    rruvim 22 October 2017 23: 06 New
    +1
    rruvim,
    Young people have every reason to protest and fool around. They need highly intelligent jobs. And they are invited to volunteer and entertain "visitors." On a competitive basis ... And our president is at the forefront. This is judging by the "box" ...
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 22 October 2017 23: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: rruvim
      They need highly intelligent jobs.

      fool
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 23 October 2017 00: 06 New
        0
        The error of my "Note" and my "fingers", and not in this "section". Guilty ... stop
  21. Makarov
    Makarov 23 October 2017 00: 07 New
    0
    Newsworthy news? Seriously?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 23 October 2017 00: 28 New
      +1
      This is no longer news ... This is the "harsh truth of life"! How not to twist. I feel sick ... sad
  22. rruvim
    rruvim 23 October 2017 00: 20 New
    0
    In general, self-nomination Sobchak is not so stupid:
    1. Want to get a liberal alternative, get !;
    2. Do you want to "quake" - quiver! Liberal TV presenters do just that ... (state-owned channels talk about it seriously ";
    3. What political scientists will seriously discuss this, in the "net" of course (are they joking?);
    4. What kind of electorate will gain the necessary number of votes for the nomination? (old women, single mothers or "" of all stripes) - this is the main thing.
    5. Which of the "elite" will oppose the nomination of K. Sobchak (they are for sure - data for the personnel structures of the Government);
    etc.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 23 October 2017 00: 25 New
      0
      Since the "robots" removed the word that is in the name of the beautiful work of Fyodor Mikhailovich, I repeat:
      4. What kind of electorate will gain the necessary number of votes for the nomination? (old women, single mothers or "And .... s" all stripes) - this is the main thing.
      5. Which of the "elite" will oppose the nomination of K. Sobchak (they are definitely "And .... s"- data for the personnel structures of the Government);
    2. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 23 October 2017 09: 10 New
      +1
      What kind of electorate will gain the necessary number of votes for the nomination?
      Well, for Ksenia the whole house 2 will be driven to a vote
  23. rruvim
    rruvim 23 October 2017 00: 56 New
    +1
    I'm. The more I “understand” this Show “Presidential Elections of the Russian Federation”, the more I understand that now the struggle is not for the one who will be elected in the outcome, but for the one who is “allowed”. The paradox of our "democracy" ... If liberal Sobchak is allowed, then it is perfectly acceptable that they "drag" Poklonskaya as well. Why one woman? You can compete with two, at the same time, different worldview views. If this happens: “then I won’t lose a bet with a friend about the“ participation of Poklonskaya, ”and I will applaud the Foreman! Turnout in March will be guaranteed!
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 23 October 2017 01: 53 New
      +1
      Comparing Poklonskaya with a mink xenia is at least incorrect. Poklonskaya is a professional, a man of firm convictions, a statesman and certainly not the fifth column!
      1. Servla
        Servla 23 October 2017 17: 54 New
        +1
        Yeah, and also a mentally unhealthy person, obsessed with Nikolasha. He probably sleeps with his portrait. The fool is the same as Sobchachka.
        1. poquello
          poquello 23 October 2017 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Servla
          Yeah, and also a mentally unhealthy person, obsessed with Nikolasha. He probably sleeps with his portrait. The fool is the same as Sobchachka.

          which of you is healthier another question
          “For the many sufferings suffered by the Tsar’s Family over the past 17 months of life, which ended with the execution in the basement of the Yekaterinburg Ipatiev House on the night of July 17, 1918, we see people who sincerely sought to translate the gospel commandments into their lives. In the sufferings endured by the Royal Family in captivity with meekness, patience and humility, in their martyrdom, the light of the Christian faith conquering evil was revealed, just as it shone in the life and death of millions of Orthodox Christians who were persecuted for Christ in the XNUMXth century. It is precisely in understanding this feat of the Tsar’s Family that the Commission, with complete unanimity and with the approval of the Holy Synod, finds it possible to glorify the New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia in the face of the martyrs of Emperor Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra, Tsarevich Alexy, Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatyana, Mary and Anastasia. ”
          1. Servla
            Servla 24 October 2017 13: 17 New
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            Strange, contemporaries of Nikolasha thought differently, and therefore they gave him the nickname “Holy” - Bloody. A Polonskaya fool.
            1. poquello
              poquello 24 October 2017 19: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Servla
              Strange, contemporaries of Nikolasha thought differently, and therefore they gave him the nickname “Holy” - Bloody. A Polonskaya fool.

              any contemporaries?
              P. Wrangel in 1916 was appointed aide-adjutant of Nicholas II
              “Many times I had the opportunity to see the Tsar closely and speak with him,” he recalled. - The Sovereign was impressed by all who saw him near, of extreme simplicity and constant goodwill. This impression was a consequence of the distinctive character traits of the Sovereign - his excellent upbringing and extraordinary ability to control himself. The Emperor’s mind was quick, he grasped the interlocutor’s thought at a glance, and his memory was absolutely exceptional. He not only perfectly remembered events, but also faces, and a map; somehow, speaking of the Carpathian battles, where I participated with my regiment, the Sovereign recalled exactly what points my division was on any given day. Moreover, these battles took place about a month and a half before my conversation with the Sovereign, and the division occupied by the division on the common front was of absolutely secondary importance ”
    2. abc_alex
      abc_alex 23 October 2017 01: 59 New
      +1
      Yes, no one was allowed yet! You are not easy to run ahead of the engine, while you are flying on an airplane! Sobchak has not even begun collecting signatures for registration. While she simply blurted out stupidity "in the newspaper" and wrote a post on the Internet. And you have already begun to comprehend. :)
    3. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 23 October 2017 04: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: rruvim
      The more I "comprehend" this Show "Presidential Elections of the Russian Federation",


      And in the US, the presidential election is not a show ?!
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 23 October 2017 01: 51 New
    +2
    In itself, the "promotion" of Ksenia is a joke!
  25. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 23 October 2017 05: 44 New
    +1
    "LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Yabloko head Grigory Yavlinsky also plan to run for president."
    And Gesha Zyuganov, that won’t work this time?
  26. Sars
    Sars 23 October 2017 06: 14 New
    0
    Ksenia will change her name to “Counter-All” for the election.
    And he will promise every man who voted for her to thank them, following the example of the Madonna.
  27. Altona
    Altona 23 October 2017 07: 38 New
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    Quote: Pereira
    Are you firm with your intention to boycott the vote again?

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    Better vote for the communists.
  28. Altona
    Altona 23 October 2017 07: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: LeonidL
    Comparing Poklonskaya with a mink xenia is at least incorrect. Poklonskaya is a professional, a man of firm convictions, a statesman and certainly not the fifth column!

    ------------------------------
    Nothing so-so statesman. Running around with a portrait of a citizen of the king, scribbling complaints to the Supreme Court, scribbling letters to the "relatives" of the king.
    From you - one bedlam,
    Shame on the king, embarrassment to the ambassadors!
    I have been antirezing for a long time
    Are you not sent to us? ..
    1. poquello
      poquello 23 October 2017 19: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Wow so-so statesman. Running with a portrait of a citizen of the king

      not all Communists are atheists, everything is better than a dead system
  29. Altona
    Altona 23 October 2017 07: 42 New
    0
    Quote: LeonidL
    In itself, the "promotion" of Ksenia is a joke!

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    The last liberal horse was taken out of the stall.
  30. Siberia55
    Siberia55 23 October 2017 07: 49 New
    0
    34 region,
    Dear, if V.V. if I did it like I.V., then I think the whole liberal wing and those who sympathize with them have long felled the forest and removed snow (all) in Siberia. Of course I am FOR! But thanks to our own Constitution, V.V. cannot raise the country like that.
    1. poquello
      poquello 23 October 2017 19: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Siberia55
      34 region,
      Dear, if V.V. if I did it like I.V., then I think the whole liberal wing and those who sympathize with them have long felled the forest and removed snow (all) in Siberia. Of course I am FOR! But thanks to our own Constitution, V.V. cannot raise the country like that.

      and where did you get that you wouldn’t have felled this forest?
  31. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 23 October 2017 09: 05 New
    0
    The phrase "Presidential Race" after Ksenia Antisekh made sense
  32. Enoch
    Enoch 23 October 2017 09: 09 New
    0
    One team.
  33. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 23 October 2017 10: 07 New
    +2
    And imagine the option: after the election comes out
    Churov and announces that Sobchak won, gaining 114% of the vote! belay
    Everyone is amazed ... bully
    1. poquello
      poquello 23 October 2017 19: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And imagine the option: after the election comes out
      Churov and announces that Sobchak won, gaining 114% of the vote! belay
      Everyone is amazed ... bully

      easy, Churov can go out and announce that Hamaz won in Israel
  34. Old familiar
    Old familiar 23 October 2017 13: 15 New
    0
    And why should we vote for Ksenia S. - "AGAINST ALL" ????? Are there no normal candidates in Russia ... ?? Why is it necessary to make a vaudeville, booth out of the presidential election .... ???? Simple arithmetic ... not even algebra ... Everything is very simple, the status of a lifelong leader is returning .... Asia will never become Europe!