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Experts suggested the Pentagon to introduce missiles that violate the INF.

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Experts of the American Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) proposed the Pentagon to begin the introduction of dual-purpose missile systems capable of delivering nuclear warheads, reports RIA News.




According to the authors of the report, the proposed step will help “to contain the Russian Iskander tactical missiles launched by Russia in the Kaliningrad region” in response to the deployment of US missile defense systems in Europe. They claim that Russian missiles are capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

Some future US ground-based systems should be dual-use. This means that they must be capable of delivering both conventional and low-powered nuclear warheads. Dual-use systems can add new gradations to the US “escalation scale,” strengthen containment in critical regions, and reduce reliance on non-strategic nuclear weapons. weaponsdelivered by airplanes - airplanes may not be able to overcome (AD) in areas of great threat,
the report says.

For example, the deployment of dual-use weapons systems in Poland may help deter Russian Iskander missiles located on the periphery (Poland), which are capable of carrying nuclear weapons. It can also greatly complicate the problems that Russia will have to solve in order to seize the Baltic states,
write experts.

On what basis the conclusion was made about the intention of the Russian Federation to “seize the Baltic states” is not explained.

Earlier, the director of the North American Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Georgy Borisenko, stated that the deployment of dual-use missile defense systems of the United States in Romania and Poland openly violated the INF Treaty and is a direct threat to Russia.

The agency’s reference: “CSBA is a Washington-based center of expertise that deals with specialized research on the US military budget and makes recommendations to US politicians and the military on defense strategy. The Pentagon, Congress, and the US administration are not required to listen to the recommendations of CSBA experts. At the same time, this center and a number of others working with the Pentagon claim to influence the future US military strategy. ”
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  1. Graz
    Graz 22 October 2017 08: 24 New
    12
    the main thing is that our leadership does not forget about June 22, 1941
    otherwise in Poland it’s not a brigade, but a division
    and missiles are no longer interceptors, but percussion. perhaps the time will come to think about delivering a preventive strike, at least on NATO bases bordering with us
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 22 October 2017 08: 31 New
      10
      To live, I look, everyone is tired of preventive strikes, the whole world is in ruin, let's bang !!!
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 22 October 2017 08: 38 New
        17
        Quote: SERGE ANT
        To live, I look, everyone is tired of preventive strikes, the whole world is in ruin, let's bang !!!

        You offered to bang yesterday laughing He said that we don’t have will, or was it yesterday? wink
        1. SERGE ANT
          SERGE ANT 22 October 2017 09: 05 New
          +7
          Today do not bang, I have to go somewhere in the evening, and then do what you want. laughing
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 22 October 2017 09: 11 New
            +6
            Quote: SERGE ANT
            Today do not bang, I have to go somewhere in the evening, and then do what you want. laughing

            We will wait for you! And then we bang together .. drinks
            1. SERGE ANT
              SERGE ANT 22 October 2017 09: 13 New
              +3
              Have agreed laughing laughing laughing drinks
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          2. vovanpain
            vovanpain 22 October 2017 09: 12 New
            +6
            Quote: SERGE ant
            Don't fucking today, I have to go somewhere tonight

            Okay, we won’t yes Said the same
            Quote: vovanpain
            surely a bang, but then.

            wink hi
        2. Partyzan
          Partyzan 22 October 2017 09: 11 New
          +7
          Volodya hi Happy Birthday drinks everything is right and bang, and then bang for our victory good
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 22 October 2017 09: 14 New
            +3
            Quote: Partyzan
            Volodya hi Happy Birthday drinks everything is right and bang, and then bang for our victory good

            Thanks Volodya! hi drinks drinks drinks Today I surely bang at the table with cork from champagne. soldier drinks hi
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 22 October 2017 09: 15 New
              +5
              keep it up good soldier drinks drinks drinks
              1. quote
                quote 22 October 2017 10: 04 New
                +7
                Morning is like good luck gentlemen.
                He plumped, thumped, sofa.
                Not life, but romance!
                (a joke is present).
                1. DEPARTMENT
                  DEPARTMENT 22 October 2017 11: 14 New
                  +2
                  Quote: devis
                  Morning is like good luck gentlemen.
                  He plumped, thumped, sofa.
                  Not life, but romance!
                  (a joke is present).

                  I would add a little more ..))))
                  Sofa, heart attack, resuscitation ... ha ha ha khe khe .. oh
                  I respect those who know how to subtly humor ... fellow
            2. sabakina
              sabakina 22 October 2017 09: 41 New
              +5
              Volodya, I join Bob! MANY YEARS! drinks
          2. Vanek
            Vanek 22 October 2017 10: 07 New
            +5
            Quote: Partyzan
            and then a booze for our victory


            Bukhnem * ... The Russian language is great and powerful.

            hi To you from Siberia.
          3. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 22 October 2017 11: 08 New
            0
            I join .. Volodya happy birthday!
            Your avatar and comments are very accurate .. Good luck! Brother for you .. drinks soldier
      2. General70
        General70 22 October 2017 10: 15 New
        +4
        And bang, but to dust, but then good lol
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2017 08: 34 New
      11
      Quote: Graz
      maybe the time will come to think about delivering a preventive strike, at least on NATO bases bordering us

      .... and get involved in TMV with almost the whole of Europe. are we so strong and what will it give us?
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 22 October 2017 09: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: LSA57
        and what will it give us?
        Sergei hi I don’t know what will give, but we’ll definitely not look calmly as before WWII, I think we’ll not step on the rake twice
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 29 New
          +6
          Quote: Partyzan
          but we’ll definitely not look calmly

          of course we won’t, but we won’t climb the first ones too
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 22 October 2017 09: 35 New
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            of course we won’t, but we won’t climb the first ones too

            the first - her, is it for us? throne it - it will stink, it will be necessary to think how to dispose of it, and so it may be disposed of lol
    3. stolz
      stolz 22 October 2017 09: 06 New
      +1
      Putin promised an instant, mirror-like response, will he really decide on something serious?
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 22 October 2017 09: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Stolz
        Putin promised an instant, mirror-like response, will he really decide on something serious?

        Putin can subtly bluff and troll! In this he has no equal on the planet ..
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 15 New
        +5
        Quote: Stolz
        Putin promised an instant, mirror-like response

        that's it, the answer
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 October 2017 09: 35 New
      +2
      In terms of missile developments, Russia pulled ahead 50 years ahead. The "exceptional" snapped up this issue and will now catch up for a long time. bully
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        and now they will catch up for a long time.

        if at all
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 22 October 2017 10: 39 New
          +1
          I agree. If they don’t catch up, then at least they will warm up. laughing
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 22 October 2017 09: 50 New
      +3
      The Yankees forgot where the Caribbean crisis began. which was caused by the deployment of US nuclear weapons in Turkey in 1961 and subsequently by the secret transfer and deployment in Cuba of military units and units of the USSR Armed Forces, equipment and weapons, including nuclear weapons. Crisis could lead to global nuclear war (Operation Anadyr)
      Again, the Americans are thinking of a monkey jumping on palm trees with a grenade with a pulled out check.
      How happy the flight time pleases them.
      From Europe to the Russian Federation minutes. The price of a temporary gain is not worth it, as the result of all these games can be deplorable for the whole globe.
    6. Kent0001
      Kent0001 22 October 2017 10: 56 New
      0
      About the possibility of preemptive strikes should be prescribed in the defense strategy and to all interested parties (primarily in Europe) to convey this.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 22 October 2017 13: 56 New
        +1
        Experts at the US Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) have suggested that the Pentagon begin implementing dual-use missile systems capable of delivering nuclear warheads
        Ha ha ha They suggested ... yes, a hundred percent of Americans have such a long time! This is the meanest nation in the world! We are simple, like three rubles - in the 90s they took, and we sawed everything into scrap metal, and the Americans got used to it. So their experts simply prepare society for the idea that the Chief Peacekeeper is simply obliged to respond to the "Russian threat." That's all.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 October 2017 08: 25 New
    +6
    Experts suggested the Pentagon to introduce missiles that violate the INF.
    Americans are easily ready to place anything in Europe. Not their own territory is under attack, after all.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 22 October 2017 08: 34 New
      0
      Their territory has been under attack for a long time already, but we can somehow deal with NATO.
    2. Smog
      Smog 22 October 2017 08: 39 New
      10
      And Poland, as I understand it, happily agrees to be the No. 1 target for our missiles. What can I say to the Poles, young people, forward and with the song. America is far away, and you are close.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 22 October 2017 08: 43 New
        +9
        Quote: Smog
        And Poland, as I understand it, happily agrees to be the No. 1 target for our missiles.

        probably by principle, to spite mom’s frostbitten ears
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 22 October 2017 08: 47 New
          +7
          The Poles do not care how bad they will be themselves, the main thing is to spoil Russia, but more.
        2. Smog
          Smog 22 October 2017 08: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: LSA57
          according to the principle, to spite mom’s frostbitten ears

          Well, judging by the statements of some of their official faces (the person didn’t write their faces), they are already frostbitten.
          Sergei! Hello. soldier drinks
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: Smog
            they are already frostbitten.

            but it seems to me Russophobia, the brain does not freeze, but dries and is transmitted by drip. and the stronger the screech, the farther the infected saliva flies. even crosses the ocean.
            Hi! smile hi drinks
            1. Smog
              Smog 22 October 2017 09: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: LSA57
              Russophobia ............ transmitted by drip.

              Russophobia, as well as democracy
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 20 New
                +6
                Quote: Smog
                Russophobia, as well as democracy

                "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for everyone else." This aphorism of Winston Churchill is still actively used in politics.
                1. Smog
                  Smog 22 October 2017 09: 22 New
                  +4
                  Quote: LSA57
                  “Democracy is the worst form of government,

                  Eh, these words would be yes to our "liberals" in the ears
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 31 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Smog
                    Eh, these words would be yes to our "liberals" in the ears

                    useless. they have them smeared mud tightly. like eyes
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 22 October 2017 09: 40 New
                      +4
                      Quote: LSA57
                      they are smeared with mud tightly. like eyes

                      Right I see and hear only what I want .......
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 50 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Smog
                        Right I see and hear only what I want .....

                        but more often that because of a large puddle flies
                2. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 22 October 2017 10: 38 New
                  +1
                  Quote: LSA57
                  “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for everyone else”

                  "Democracy is the worst form of government, after tyranny." These words are still in my Plato, if not mistaken. The ancients two and a half thousand years ago already knew the whole truth about democracy.
        3. Partyzan
          Partyzan 22 October 2017 09: 17 New
          +6
          Quote: LSA57
          probably by principle, to spite mom’s frostbitten ears

          maybe their physiology is different, and there’s nothing to freeze there? laughing
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 32 New
            +6
            Quote: Partyzan
            or maybe their physiology is different

            Well, when were you born because there was something ...
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 22 October 2017 10: 13 New
              +5
              Quote: LSA57
              Well, when were you born because there was something ...

              keyword - было laughing
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 22 October 2017 10: 26 New
                +5
                Quote: Partyzan
                the key word was

                Yes, and now there is. vacuum between the ears
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 22 October 2017 10: 40 New
                  +5
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Yes, and now there is. vacuum between the ears

    3. Orionvit
      Orionvit 22 October 2017 08: 55 New
      +6
      Some future US ground-based systems must be dual-use.
      In my opinion, they were originally dual-use, otherwise in Europe, near the borders of Russia, no one would place them. Under the pretext of protecting Europe, the states wanted to spit on Europe and all Europeans combined. By the way, they placed with conversations that they say they were from Iran, and now they have forgotten about Iran, and they are not hiding the truth. All this is started exclusively against Russia.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 05 New
        +8
        Quote: Orionvit
        In my opinion they were originally dual-use,

        well yes. when ours were asked to documentary evidence that they were not offensive and were not directed against Russia, they always refused
  3. SPACE
    SPACE 22 October 2017 08: 58 New
    +2
    The withdrawal from the INF Treaty brings us back to the past, in 80, again the probability of a limited nuclear war in Europe looms. But no matter how strange it may seem, unlike 80 x, today it is beneficial for Russia, firstly, by the ability to rivet cheap "short" missiles, it is necessary to compensate for the growth of small threats, and secondly, the means of defense have become an order of magnitude better, in Thirdly, today the welfare of the United States largely depends on Europe and the hypothetical conflict on the European theater of war, will destroy both Europe and NATO, which will halve the US military and economic capabilities, force them to leave Europe and switch to defense on their own content.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 October 2017 10: 15 New
      +1
      "that will halve the US’s military and economic capabilities,
      force them to leave Europe and go on the defensive on their content "////
      ---
      The same layout was in the 80 year, except that the USSR had then
      there were a lot of tanks and planes, and now 10 times less.
      BRDS deployed by States in Europe in 4-5 minutes
      will fly to Moscow, the places of basing "Yars" and to large cities and strategic factories
      European part of Russia, and Russian to the USA in 35 minutes. How was this layout in the 80s,
      and remained. And then the USSR proposed an agreement on the prohibition of the BRDS.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 22 October 2017 12: 50 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The same layout was in the 80 year, except that the USSR had then
        there were a lot of tanks and planes, and now 10 times less

        You are not stupid and you understand that today in a big massacre tanks can’t solve anything.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        BRDS deployed by States in Europe in 4-5 minutes
        will fly to Moscow, the Yars-based locations and major cities and strategic factories in the European part of Russia, and Russian ones to the USA in 35 minutes.

        As for the fly, doubts, well, maybe something, tea is not worth the place))) But you don’t need minutes to America in 35, and then there’s a limited nuclear war, you’ll bend yourself, Europe will be enough from them.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 October 2017 15: 57 New
          0
          You somehow forgot about 200 English warheads.
          Even if only 4 of their submarines are fired, then everything is a complete end of the world stop .
          And their doctrine is exactly like the Russian one: "a retaliation strike on large cities."
          The Americans then almost all of the Minutemen redirected to the mines of ICBMs, combines, power plants.
          And the British, like the Russians, do not bother with accuracy - in cities and all affairs negative .
      2. XXXIII
        XXXIII 22 October 2017 15: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        and Russian to the USA in 35 minutes
        From Vladivostok it will be faster 5-7 minutes ..... wassat
      3. Lem
        Lem 23 October 2017 00: 47 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        BRDS deployed by States in Europe in 4-5 minutes
        fly to Moscow,

        There is nothing for them to post. And in the next 5-7 years, at least, there will not be.
  4. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 October 2017 09: 00 New
    +2
    Experts at the American Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments

    But how many golem centers are there? Probably as many as in Russia, and in Khokhlostan, there are various "institutes" of independent experts and research of about ten people who are regularly "interviewed" by ORT. sad And members of academicians of any rank of the Russian Academy of Sciences are just a dime a dozen, and each is an expert. Like WE are with you ... wink
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 22 October 2017 09: 01 New
    +2
    It can also greatly complicate the problems that Russia will have to solve in order to capture the Baltic countries,
    write experts.
    On what basis the conclusion was made about the intention of the Russian Federation to “seize the Baltic states” is not explained.

    And what actually explain?
    Here the director of the CIA made information about the nuclear strike against Korea by the United States with Korea, which means they must get ahead of them by bombing the country first. Indeed, the CIA cannot lie !!!
    Everywhere the script is the same
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 22 October 2017 10: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      After all, the CIA cannot lie !!!

      after these words - the map then flooded me laughing
  6. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 22 October 2017 09: 14 New
    0
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: Graz
    maybe the time will come to think about delivering a preventive strike, at least on NATO bases bordering us

    .... and get involved in TMV with almost the whole of Europe. are we so strong and what will it give us?

    It will give us- Lack of Europe!
    As long as they live the principle that with the surrender of the capital, the country capitulates, we are invincible!
    How, I, threw a pebble at Macaron?
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 October 2017 09: 14 New
    +2
    Earlier, the director of the North American Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Georgy Borisenko, stated that the deployment of dual-use missile defense systems of the United States in Romania and Poland openly violated the INF Treaty and is a direct threat to Russia.

    Well, yes, maybe a little late? Maybe Lavrov and GDP announced this two years ago? request And completely from the open stands, in reality from every world of correspondents.
    And Churkin did not stay there in debt.
    Or do you need to be a woodpecker in order to reach the west?
  8. stolz
    stolz 22 October 2017 09: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: LSA57

    .... and get involved in TMV with almost the whole of Europe. are we so strong and what will it give us?

    And what, in fact, is now Europe, from the standpoint of mobility? These were previously mobilized workers and peasants, accustomed to labor and discipline, on the basis of some kind of ideology, represented a formidable force. Now, the majority of the population is office plankton, significantly diluted with homosexuals, it is difficult to imagine them going in chains to machine guns.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2017 09: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: Stolz
      And what, in fact, is now Europe, from the standpoint of mobility?

      and enough of us and the army. just in numbers
      1. RUMA-A
        RUMA-A 22 October 2017 09: 57 New
        +2
        "but with us, and the army is enough. just in numbers" .. The right to a preemptive strike .. June 22, 41 will not.
        Yet...
  9. armourer
    armourer 22 October 2017 09: 20 New
    +1
    Do not anger God, we are all a miserable pimple in the cosmic universe. If we eliminate ourselves, no one will notice
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov 22 October 2017 09: 39 New
      +2
      Even as they notice and listen. Zeus, Jupiters, TOTs, Osiriza, Amon and Ra, Vishnu with Krishna, well, there Buda with Jesus, Mohammed finally weave at the end of the world ..
      They’ll be offended, how could it be - they were left without work .. wink
      But the one whom no one knows the name, THOUGHTS.
  10. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 October 2017 09: 30 New
    +1
    The Pentagon, Congress and the US administration are not required to heed the recommendations of CSBA experts.

    In Russia, let’s also say that Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov are not listened to. wink
  11. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 October 2017 09: 47 New
    +1
    I have a counter offer; implement:



    Moreover, in American films, this has all been introduced long ago; there will be no violation. Run as overall weight models. laughing
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2017 10: 31 New
      +7
      Quote: Gormengast
      Moreover, in American films, this has all been introduced long ago;

      in urkain also introduce
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2017 11: 11 New
      0
      The time will come and the satellites with hydrogen charges will appear in a highly-elephant orbit.
  12. Smog
    Smog 22 October 2017 09: 52 New
    +4
    LSA57,
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: Smog
    Right I see and hear only what I want .....

    but more often that because of a large puddle flies

    Do not touch the tin. For them it is "holy" ...... !!!!!!!!
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2017 10: 29 New
      +6
      Quote: Smog
      For them it is "holy" ...... !!!!!!!!

      Well, yes, an icon. but for me, trouble is on the body of the earth
    2. Partyzan
      Partyzan 22 October 2017 10: 30 New
      +7
      Quote: Smog
      Do not touch the tin.

  13. wot
    wot 22 October 2017 10: 00 New
    0
    have already read the article, Trump announced the mobilization of 1000 pilots .... soon something will strike. Let Putin even dance in front of Raul samba, but urgently need to return to Cuba !!! Mattresses will only understand when rockets appear next to them am and all the words about the quick “mirror response” to the campaign are just words, the enemy is already on the threshold .... By the way, yesterday in Russia 24 there was an excellent story about Operation Anadyr
    1. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 22 October 2017 11: 26 New
      0
      Quote: wot
      have already read the article, trump announced the mobilization of 1000 pilots .... soon something will strike

      Storm, storm will soon break ...

      Nahuliganim glory men!
  14. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 22 October 2017 10: 06 New
    +1
    It has long been obvious that pin.dosnia is preparing another war in Europe. There is braxit, here is the radicalization of geyrops, here is anti-Russian hysteria in the media of the West, here is the pulling of the arms of the first strike to the borders of Russia. I personally am simply surprised at the complacency in the Russian leadership and their attempts to appease the west. A typical situation, like before WWII, Stalin also did not believe in the possibility of an attack and tried his best not to give an excuse for an attack ... well, everyone knows what happened ... So now these ... pleasures ... They keep people's pans enemies, spitting in the face (closing consulates, direct oskosenie) only wipe away all the time threatening to answer something but do not answer ... inside the country do not call for an inevitable war. The defense industry is both spread rot and spread rot. Thieves as dragged billions from the country and drags. You no longer have to rely on a nuclear shield ... pind.soyachaya missile defense will provide its function. And if he misses a couple of three warheads, it would be even better to justify the destruction of a whole civilization ... Slavic ... Just don’t have to roll at me now that I am exaggerating, a sober look at what is happening confirms my assumptions.
    1. RUMA-A
      RUMA-A 22 October 2017 10: 44 New
      +2
      Stalin knew the whole situation. The concept of "surprise attack" was introduced after the 20th Congress and Khrushchev. Under Stalin they always said "treacherous attack"!
    2. RUMA-A
      RUMA-A 22 October 2017 10: 49 New
      +1
      laughing Are you sure? Then where is such confidence ????
  15. RUMA-A
    RUMA-A 22 October 2017 10: 07 New
    0
    [quote = wot] have already read the article, Trump announced the mobilization of 1000 pilots .... soon something will strike. Let Putin even dance in front of Raul samba, but urgently need to return to Cuba !!! Mattresses will only understand when rockets appear next to them am and all the words about the quick “mirror response” to the campaign are just words, the enemy is already on the threshold .... By the way, yesterday in Russia 24 there was an excellent story about the operation “Anadyr” Sense? Other times and opportunities. By and large, Anadyr was the answer to Pershing in Turkey.
    1. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 22 October 2017 10: 47 New
      +1
      Not the Pershing, but the Jupiter missiles.
      1. RUMA-A
        RUMA-A 22 October 2017 11: 08 New
        0
        you are right jupiter. Pershing was then another geography. wink
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2017 11: 12 New
      +1
      Cuba will no longer accept new missiles.
  16. stolz
    stolz 22 October 2017 10: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: armourer
    Do not anger God, we are all a miserable pimple in the cosmic universe. If we eliminate ourselves, no one will notice

    Do not generalize, if you consider yourself a miserable pimple, then talk about yourself. Following us are Alexander Nevsky, Borodino and Stalingrad. What other country has such a story?
  17. wot
    wot 22 October 2017 10: 15 New
    0
    Quote: RUMA-A
    Meaning? Other times and opportunities. By and large, Anadyr was the answer to Pershing in Turkey.

    and this will be the answer to missile defense in Europe and in South Korea
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    2. RUMA-A
      RUMA-A 22 October 2017 10: 40 New
      0
      [quote = wot] [quote = RUMA-A] Sense? Other times and opportunities. By and large, Anadyr was the answer to Pershing in Turkey. [/ Quote]
      and this will be a response to missile defense in Europe and in South Korea [/ I will return to my comment in the doctrine of the Russian Federation on the right of a preventive response (strike). The base in Cuba of electronic intelligence Lourdes had to be left. She is now in excellent condition, although it is preserved. Cubans keep it in its original form. We are well aware of our capabilities. So everything is under control.
  18. Nemesis
    Nemesis 22 October 2017 10: 40 New
    +1
    In this case, the Russian Federation should begin to ignore all agreements with the United States and begin to take all measures necessary to increase the defense capability of the Russian Federation, including placing Caliber missiles on a wheeled and railway chassis, providing them with tactical nuclear warheads.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 10: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: Nemesis
      deploy Caliber missiles on wheeled and railway chassis, supplying them with tactical nuclear warheads

      ... and for this, make quantum satis Caliber ... and at the same time warheads.
      NemesisYou are not on Nibiru, live by chance? wink
    2. RUMA-A
      RUMA-A 22 October 2017 11: 12 New
      0
      [quote = Nemesis] In this case, the Russian Federation should begin to ignore all agreements with the United States and begin to take all measures necessary to increase the defense capability of the Russian Federation, including deploying Caliber missiles on a wheeled and railway chassis, providing them with tactical nuclear warheads. [/ KLUB-K .... On .... Opu otvetka ....
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2017 11: 15 New
      +1
      On wheeled and air can be placed, but on the rail they do not need nafig.
      1. RUMA-A
        RUMA-A 22 October 2017 11: 21 New
        0
        And what about the marine performance?
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            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 October 2017 16: 31 New
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              1000 3M14 missiles - 60 billion rubles, plus containers and cars under 100 billions will be released, stretched out over four years - the budget will be mastered.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 October 2017 11: 30 New
    +1
    Someone is obviously eager to become a hero or just a participant / victim of the 3 world ...
    And in general it’s clear that the countries in whose territory such complexes are located,
    automatically erased from the card just in case, in an endangered period.
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 October 2017 12: 33 New
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    Yes, and then. Here the Americans openly cover us with hu ... rockets.
    Well, what do we do in response, no one sees.)))
    I remember the project was lit up on a TV, either boats, or large torpedoes ...
  21. Lelek
    Lelek 22 October 2017 12: 46 New
    +1
    (The Pentagon, Congress and the US administration are not required to heed the recommendations of CSBA experts. At the same time, this center and a number of others working with the Pentagon claim to influence the future US military strategy.)

    It seems that the United States has embarked on a military confrontation with Russia, which is confirmed by the mobilization announced in this country. Well, the legitimate question is - where will it flare up?
  22. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 22 October 2017 20: 34 New
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    Something I’m starting to like Comrade Sakharov’s idea more and more! Again, open a new strait.
  23. Prutkov
    Prutkov 22 October 2017 21: 42 New
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    It should be understood that in any case, mattresses will have to fight simultaneously with two nuclear powers, because if you do not touch China, then he will be the winner in 3 MB. Yes, and it is not necessary to withdraw from the contract. You can answer the American race about a cheaper method. Place simulator missiles in the positional areas of mine ICBMs, which simultaneously launch with a ballistic missile, will simulate an ICBM flight in the booster section. Let Aegis figure out where the real rocket is and where the simulator is. And even if the mine with the MBR was hit, and the simulator rocket remained, this rocket should take off.
  24. Old26
    Old26 22 October 2017 22: 31 New
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    Quote: Dembel 77
    Ha ha ha They suggested ... yes, a hundred percent of Americans have such a long time!

    No. They don’t have such missiles with such characteristics yet.

    Quote: Orionvit
    In my opinion, they were originally dual-use, otherwise in Europe, near the borders of Russia, no one would place them. Under the pretext of protecting Europe, the states wanted to spit on Europe and all Europeans combined. By the way, they placed with conversations that they say they were from Iran, and now they have forgotten about Iran, and they are not hiding the truth. All this is started exclusively against Russia.

    The dual, or rather multipurpose, were exclusively launchers, in which it was possible to place the "Standards", "Harpoons", Asroki and Tomahawks. Given the lack of strategic Tomahawks (there are only tactical ones) and the absence of warheads at present, to recreate " Tomahawks "in the form of atomic will need quite a long time. And what's the point in subsonic cruise missiles?

    Quote: SPACE
    The withdrawal from the INF Treaty brings us back to the past, in 80, again the probability of a limited nuclear war in Europe looms. But no matter how strange it may seem, unlike 80 x, today it is beneficial for Russia, firstly, by the ability to rivet cheap "short" missiles, it is necessary to compensate for the growth of small threats, and secondly, the means of defense have become an order of magnitude better, in Thirdly, today the welfare of the United States largely depends on Europe and the hypothetical conflict on the European theater of war, will destroy both Europe and NATO, which will halve the US military and economic capabilities, force them to leave Europe and switch to defense on their own content.

    Russia ABSOLUTELY NOT FAVORABLE withdrawal from the agreement on INF. For several reasons
    1. The geopolitical situation has changed compared to the 80s
    2. The collapse of the Union and the next decade led to the fact that we do not have the opportunity to "rivet" cheap short missiles. There are no trivial factories, the infrastructure of the missile area has collapsed.
    3. Exiting the INF Treaty will lead to the fact that we get what we are trying to avoid

    Quote: Nemesis
    In this case, the Russian Federation should begin to ignore all agreements with the United States and begin to take all measures necessary to increase the defense capability of the Russian Federation, including placing Caliber missiles on a wheeled and railway chassis, providing them with tactical nuclear warheads.

    First you need to "rivet" the "Caliber", How many of them do a year you hoping you know (Shoigu talked about this). And where are you going to “rivet” the “guts” for “Caliber.” I'm not talking about nuclear warheads. Or do you think that one can be thrust in instead of the other and they are in the arsenals ready for a minute?

    Quote: voyaka uh
    BRDS deployed by States in Europe in 4-5 minutes
    will fly to Moscow, the places of basing "Yars" and to large cities and strategic factories
    European part of Russia, and Russian to the USA in 35 minutes. How was this layout in the 80s,
    and remained. And then the USSR proposed an agreement on the prohibition of the BRDS.

    Less than 4 minutes to Leningrad and Moscow ...

    Quote: voyaka uh
    You somehow forgot about 200 English warheads. Even if only 4 of their submarines are fired, then everything is a complete end of the world stop .
    And their doctrine is exactly like the Russian one: "a retaliation strike on large cities." The Americans then almost all of the Minutemen redirected to the mines of ICBMs, combines, power plants. And the British, like the Russians, do not bother with accuracy - in cities and all affairs negative .

    You forgot more French warheads, although of course you got a little excited about two hundred English

    Quote: Fedorov
    Well, yes, maybe a little late? Maybe Lavrov and GDP announced this two years ago?

    No. two years ago they talked about multipurpose launchers but not missiles
  25. Old26
    Old26 22 October 2017 22: 32 New
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    Quote: Rods
    You can answer the American race about a cheaper method. Place simulator missiles in the positional areas of mine ICBMs, which simultaneously launch with a ballistic missile, will simulate an ICBM flight in the booster section.

    And religion does not allow to read the contract?
  26. misti1973
    misti1973 22 October 2017 22: 39 New
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    Yeah! As the saying goes: Welcome back nuclear Tomahawks. This was our concern.
  27. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
    Alexander Abdrakhmanov 23 October 2017 07: 36 New
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    Russia is not going to attack Europe, it is America pulling its army to our borders. It is the United States that is developing a plan to strike at us first. Rockets are placed closer to us. In, Putin said bluntly, a threat is waking up, we will respond instantly, and we will respond to the threat with the most advanced weapons. Here you don’t need a lot of mind, you can guess right away. If the US does not understand, it is necessary to send a person to explain stupid. There is an American missile defense system in Europe, only they themselves do not know whether it will protect Europe, and they don’t need it. They need it to collect money from them. Russia today has a poison against it, from this missile defense system, it will immediately make a fuss, they will stand like logs dug into the ground, I don’t want to hit.
  28. Old26
    Old26 23 October 2017 08: 18 New
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    Quote: Alexander Abdrakhmanov
    In, Putin said bluntly, a threat is waking up, we will respond instantly, and

    The President does exist to say such a thing. But how, in what way you can instantly react - is covered in mystery. What, we became the owners of the magic wand?

    Quote: Alexander Abdrakhmanov
    There is an American missile defense system in Europe, only they themselves do not know whether it will protect Europe, and they don’t need it. They need it to collect money from them. Russia today has a poison against it, from this missile defense system, it will immediately make a fuss, they will stand like logs dug into the ground, I don’t want to hit.

    There are, and they know very well which missiles it can protect them from, and which they don’t. But cap-making is not worth it. And then we have not an article - so any weapon, up to the slingshot, “drives you crazy”, “they are shaking with fear” and further on the list. A problem may arise, but let’s leave political statements on the conscience of politicians
  29. klm-57
    klm-57 28 October 2017 22: 21 New
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    It’s as if they’re not violating now by deploying missile defense systems near our borders. These complexes can easily be used to launch long-range cruise missiles with nuclear warheads.