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US media have frightened the test of a new Russian rocket

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The American media reported with alarm about the testing of a new Russian missile.


The material published in the publication Newsweekit is a question of a modernized rocket for the Iskander system. With reference to the Russian media, the American edition emphasizes that the military has passed the test as one of the most significant events.

US media have frightened the test of a new Russian rocket


It is particularly noted that the details of the tests, as well as information about the capabilities of the new missiles were not officially made public. It is only known that the test launch was a continuation of the modernization of Russian missile weapons. She recalled the publication of the tests a month ago, when the Iskander-M had already launched a rocket at record 480 kilometers and hit the target.

Meanwhile, according to the Missile Threat Project, the current version of the Iskander missiles, which is intended only for the "internal" use of the Russian army, has a range of about 400 kilometers (250 miles) and a payload of about 700 kilograms (1543 pounds). At the same time, the Iskander-M does not violate the terms of the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF), although it can use nuclear missile warheads.

The publication also says that such missiles will effectively replace the Soviet Oka missile complex, which fell under the scope of the INF Treaty and was eliminated. All this, as Newsweek writes, "makes Iskander-M a frightening addition to the arsenal of the Russian military." In addition, it is reported that Russian missiles intended for this complex have at least seven modifications. And externally, rockets do not differ from each other, but inside they have fundamental differences.
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Dmitry Rogulin / TASS
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 21 October 2017 20: 31 New
    43
    somehow it was pleasant and warm in my soul.
    1. poquello
      poquello 21 October 2017 20: 39 New
      16
      Quote: newbie
      somehow it was pleasant and warm in my soul.

      relevant, given the front pulled up to the borders
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 21 October 2017 21: 09 New
        33
        All this, according to Newsweek, "makes Iskander-M a frightening addition to the arsenal of the Russian military."

        Give the money shorter. laughing
        that such missiles will effectively replace the Soviet Oka missile system, which fell under the INF Treaty and was eliminated

        “Oka” did not fall under the INF Treaty; it fell under the betrayal and surrender of everything and everything Gorbachev.
        Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev. This name began to be forgotten, and therefore Gorbachev himself from time to time tries to remind himself: in April of this year, he strongly recommended the Russian leadership to continue perestroika. The very one, as a result of which a great power was destroyed, and tens of millions of people turned into beggars; the army and security organs were destroyed and became incapacitated. And Gorbachev did all this quite consciously. Little known episodes for the general public about the malicious destruction of the country's defense capabilities confirm this.
        Полная статья вот:http://www.dal.by/news/109/05-07-13-4/
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        2. Jedi
          Jedi 21 October 2017 21: 27 New
          33
          Vlad, don’t talk about Oka, my uncle took part in the development, and I remember his indignation ... And Mechenyom and Yeltsin - the land of carpet bombing. am
        3. hrych
          hrych 21 October 2017 21: 42 New
          38
          Quote: 79807420129
          “Oka” did not fall under the INF Treaty; it fell under the betrayal and surrender of everything and everything Gorbachev.

          This is not entirely true and is myth-making, the Oka’s range was 400 km, but with a land mine already weighing over 700 kg, however, a tactical nuclear charge of 100-200 kg flies unconditionally beyond 500 km. And the lightest nuclear projectile has a weight of only 50 kg laughing Therefore, the Americans insisted on liquidation not just like that, but because they know how to count and the Oka was a short-range missile (if not medium) unambiguously. A similar situation with Iskander, everyone understands that the range is a thousand kilometers, but with a nuclear charge. Although in the Kyrgyz Republic the range to weight ratio is calculated differently than for a ballistic missile, the same Caliber with a half-ton high-explosive mine flies for 1500 km, but with a nuclear charge of 200 kilotons it flies for 2500 km (we focus on TTX Grenade). At Iskander, a half-ton landmine is declared for 500 km. You can, of course, take the formula and calculate, but it’s clear to the goat that a 200 kiloton charge weighing about 150 kg will fly away ... thousands of kilometers wassat
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 21 October 2017 21: 52 New
            17
            Thank you, comforted and reassured. Excuse me, I don’t know how to call you-dignity, with respect. hi drinks
          2. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 21 October 2017 21: 56 New
            18
            it’s clear to the goat that a 200 kiloton charge weighing about 150 kg will fly away

            Thank you.
            reading things “on business” is always helpful. And then a similar infa warms the soul. yes
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 21 October 2017 23: 30 New
              10
              Iskander missile maneuvers in flight ... If you remove this equipment, then ... well, you understand. Intercepting a ballistic missile at short and medium range is problematic. It is necessary to keep the air defense system in full combat readiness with incl. radar systems, capture-escort, etc. .. But this is what will create the first target for attacking missiles, and then the "simplified" options, but with a long range ....
              GDP in Valdai said bluntly that he was not worried about the deployment of NATO forces in the Baltic states and Poland, a tank. divisions with 160-170 Abrams. "Let them practice!" Probably, the Iskanders is that "means of calm" for NATO plans. I don’t see the “tools” more quickly. Moreover, the medicine is ready, and the potion is delivered to the outbreak of Russophobia. lol
              The United States is more concerned about the expansion of the Pentagon’s budget than the Iskanders, who in any case will not reach them from our territory. hi
              1. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
                Alexander Abdrakhmanov 22 October 2017 00: 02 New
                +6
                Why do you think that America will not reach. Russia has other missiles to deliver this cargo. Today, all states on the planet are vulnerable, everyone can be reached, only flight time will take longer.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 23 October 2017 21: 24 New
                  +1
                  Because I write, uv. Alexander, for the Iskander. Shtatnikov do not care about them. hi
          3. opus
            opus 22 October 2017 02: 15 New
            11
            Quote: hrych
            , but with a bomb, even with a weight of 700 kg, but the tactical nuclear charge in 100-200 kg flies certainly further 500 km.

            What a crap shit
            1.nuclear 9H74B = 375 kg
            + transitional compartment 9B513 = 80kg
            + 2 a remote control promotion with a reserve of TC (mass = xzskok well about 40kg with tk)
            + compensating load (centering due to the specificity of the location of the YABZ) = 20-50 kg
            + a completely different mechanism (charge) of self-destruction (up to 50 kg)
            + Foil trim, spring self-expanding reflectors, small sources of active interference and false warhead (simulator warhead) = everything else

            2. Thermonuclear 9НХNUMX = 63 kg
            + transitional compartment 9B513 = 80kg
            + 2 a remote control promotion with a reserve of TC (mass = xzskok well about 40kg with tk)
            + compensating load (centering due to the specificity of the location of the YABZ) = 20-50 kg
            + a completely different mechanism (charge) of self-destruction (up to 50 kg)
            + Foil trim, spring self-expanding reflectors, small sources of active interference and false warhead (simulator warhead) = everything else

            3.BDU 9H74K = 716 kg
            - transitional compartment 80kg
            -compensating load (centering)
            self-destruction mechanism
            foil trimmers, spring self-expanding reflectors, small sources of active interference and false warhead (simulator warhead)

            ALL CLEAR?
            Weight:
            - 4400-4690 kg
            - 4630 kg (9M714K)
            - 4400 kg (9M714B)
            - 4480 kg (9M714B1)

            4630- 4400 (4480) = 230 kg (150kg) is lighter than OTR with special ammunition
            and not what
            Quote: hrych
            certainly further 500 km.

            not work

            Weight without warhead - 3990 kg
            The weight of the warhead - 372 (special warhead) -715 kg (normal)

            Tales about 50 kg, super-range with special warhead = leave the children, the benefit of them is a lot.
            Range:
            - 50 km (minimum, 9М714)
            - 300 km (9М714К)
            - 400 km (9M714B, according to TTX)
            - 407-450 km (maximum 9М714, depending on the type of warhead, except 9М714К)
            - 500 km ("Oka-U", to 700 km of the design stage)

            Operating time of the electric battery of the warhead - 430 with


            Threat.
            Range:
            - 50 km (minimum, 9М714)
            - 300 km (9М714К)
            - 400 km (9M714B, according to TTX)
            - 407-450 km (maximum 9М714, depending on the type of warhead, except 9М714К)
            Quote: hrych
            Therefore, the Americans insisted on liquidation for a reason, but because they are able to count and the Oka was definitely a short-range (if not medium) missile.

            yep ..
            fool
            therefore, they paid Slovenia 16 000 000 $ in 2002 for destroying 4 SPU and 18 9М714К missiles (5 th missile regiment, Martin).
            Slovakia, we have such a ... rocket and nuclear power, in NATO m / y other things with 29 in March 2004 (and there for the 2, you will not enter)
            Quote: hrych
            but with a nuclear charge in 200 kilotons flies for 2500 km (focus on the performance of the Grenade)

            Simple as that
            and the turbofan R-95-300 / RDK-300 will withstand such a voltage?
            and bip?
            and guidance system?
            Shl. see above about any adapters, alignments, and so on.
            KS PRO here really do not need0n
            Quote: hrych
            goat it is clear that 200 kiloton charge weighing about 150 kg

            Well, goat, or goats = clear stump is clear ..
            Where are these idiotic numbers?
            у
            nuclear warhead (9H74B) power 10-50 kt. = 375 kg

            9М714Б1 - thermonuclear warhead (9H63) AA-75 with power 200 кт = 375 kg

            W78 / Mk12A — Thermonuclear, 335 Ct, 272kg
            ....
            According to this "goat logic" we take 5В28Н (В-880Н) SAMs from С-200Х, change BF 5БХNNXXШ .. for special warhead (СБЧ ТА-14) to defeat group goals = must provide interception range in 600-700 km?
            belay

            Well, what? Well she is not "heavy" 5B14Sh ...
            C-500 resting
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 22 October 2017 06: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: opus
              What a crap shit

              A believable opus, America is sleeping calmly, the Kremlin is happy)))
            2. hrych
              hrych 22 October 2017 08: 59 New
              +8
              Quote: opus
              Where are these idiotic numbers?

              Opus, you wrote a lot and once again let the gas go, Yars has already published TTX, for it has already become the main instrument of our nuclear forces and 110 missiles are already on guard of our borders. The data are as follows: 1500 kg cast weight, application options: 3 warheads of 500 megatons each or 4 warheads of 300 megatons each, or 6 warheads of 150 megatons each. Moreover, maneuvering units, plus means of overcoming missile defense in the form of false targets.
              The weight of the grenade warhead for your information did not exceed 200 kg, and the main type is 200 CT
              Read clever clever article
              http://rufor.org/showthread.php?t=16272
              On average, for your information, plus / minus the number of hundreds of megatons corresponds to the number of hundreds of kilograms of nuclear warhead, but in the direction of exactly the minus. You don’t know anything Snow, carry the blizzard with numbers and pictures, confuse people like a true Pharisee laughing
              Don’t comment on me anymore because you don’t understand electrochemical corrosion, and for me this is already an opinion about you, as about a drop-in. Therefore, he went away from me ....
              1. opus
                opus 22 October 2017 18: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                Opus, you wrote a lot and again let gas, according to Yars

                Where's yars?
                and who, where, when
                Quote: hrych
                published TTX

                Quote: hrych
                or 6 150 warheads megatons

                this is prohibited by contract.
                Quote: hrych
                Moreover, the units are maneuvering, plus means for overcoming missile defense in the form of false targets.

                yep
                logs cretins farted and all repeat.
                they got out of the "special software maneuver of evasion of a rocket when a cloud of a ground-based nuclear explosion passes, when there is fuel under"
                ONLY maneuvers the breeding platform (bus) on the trajectory, which makes it difficult for the enemy to solve the missile defense tasks

                Quote: hrych
                Read clever clever article

                Are we on "you"? beer, sour on brotherhood tsedili?
                I do not remember... crying
                What to read? and who is ethno?
                Quote: hrych
                The weight of the grenade warhead for your information did not exceed 200 kg, and the main type is 200 CT

                la la
                1. About the specials of the USSR (and Russia) no one knows who did not touch.
                I brought the masses of warheads that are known, our (OKA) and Americans.
                More will be.
                Conclusion- nonsense "no more"
                2.3K-10 was originally created for spetsbch.
                Therefore there is no it
                Quote: opus
                + transitional compartment 9B513 = 80kg
                + 2 a remote control promotion with a reserve of TC (mass = xzskok well about 40kg with tk)
                + compensating load (centering due to the specificity of the location of the YABZ) = 20-50 kg
                + a completely different mechanism (charge) of self-destruction (up to 50 kg)

                but ZM-14 on the contrary, based on it under the usual bch
                3. Neither the KS-122 / 3М-10, nor the KC-122 / 9B2413 in the 2500-3000 range are confirmed
                4. Ballistic missile, yet not the KR with TRDD
                Quote: hrych
                Do not comment on me anymore because you do not understand the electrochemical corrosion

                the stump is clear
                Quote: hrych
                On enlighten kid

                ek sausage something
                1. hrych
                  hrych 22 October 2017 19: 23 New
                  +1
                  You’re a good man, but I respect you even, but you just can’t be so boring. Our most compact tactical nuclear charge in the form of a 53 kilogram shell takes place, not only does the artillery shell have a very heavy steel blank. Even if the charge is 1 kiloton, then it is a thousand tons of TNT, as if a half-ton high-explosive, is unequivocally more efficient than a couple of thousand times. laughing And the fact that a 200 ct charge weighs 150-200 kg just put up and don’t argue drinks
                  Quote: opus
                  ONLY maneuvers the breeding platform (bus) on the trajectory, which makes it difficult for the enemy to solve the missile defense tasks

                  You see how outdated you are, not only the platform, BB Maces and they are on Yars, each has its own personal shunting taxiway
                  1. opus
                    opus 23 October 2017 04: 09 New
                    +1
                    Quote: hrych
                    Good you man

                    Erotic nightly dreams of the old Khrycha ....
                    but we agreed
                    Quote: hrych
                    Do not comment on me anymore because you do not understand electrochemical corrosion and for me this opinion has already formed about you as a drop in money. Therefore pshal from me

                    fool
                    go hrych old, "Dunka kulakovu" roll ...
                    m. I do not understand ehk ...
                    but you do not understand, nor in what.
                    there is such a thing: absolute zero, so tse is not about T, but about
                    Quote: hrych
                    Figures for mass BB:
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 23 October 2017 08: 36 New
                      0
                      Leave me alone, since the word "good man" is a perfectly decent expression and even respectful in male society, you evoke sexual associations, then Freud is not in vain on your ava. Congratulations, you're latent ... Once again, I propose not to bother me to comment, condemn to yourself. I won’t touch you either, just don’t leave comments in hundreds of lines. Unfortunately ignore disconnected, I would have safely sent you there. In a word, let you go out! I won’t give up my hands, I'm sorry, I’m not sending the administrators a complaint about your “dunks” yet, but you’ll climb again, you’ll have to ...
                2. hrych
                  hrych 22 October 2017 21: 11 New
                  0
                  Figures for mass BB:

                  0,1 Mt = 100 kg (185 kg with economical charge performance)
                  0,3 MT = 135 kg (270 kg)
                  0,5 MT = 185 kg (320 kg)
                  0,8 MT = 270 kg
                  1,0 MT = 320 kg
                  1,5 MT = 450 kg
                  Source - "Fundamentals of the design of solid-fuel guided ballistic missiles. Part 2" of Nikolaev, Panov, Solomonov, MSTU Bauman, 2000.
            3. hrych
              hrych 22 October 2017 09: 31 New
              +3
              Amendment
              Quote: hrych
              On average, for your information, plus / minus the number of hundreds megatons corresponds to the number of hundreds of kilograms of combat nuclear charge, but in the direction of exactly the minus.

              Of course, kilotons.
              And it feels like neither the Kyrgyz Republic nor the warheads were allowed to take you on a cannon shot wassat Theorist you are ours
              On enlighten kid
              http://www.rusarmy.com/forum/threads/jadernye-boe
              pripasy.635 /
              Pay attention to the projectile in 53 kg of weight laughing Let's throw it with Iskander wassat
            4. Lev Bronsch
              Lev Bronsch 22 October 2017 13: 03 New
              +4
              You have figures and facts, and Mr. Khrych propaganda ... well, they gave him the following task: everything that the omega did, everything is sacred and for the good - prove it! So Mr. is trying, he pulls an owl on the globe, tries to juggle with digital figures, it’s really shitty)).
              In general, our answer to the grunts - there is a TTX, the rest is your speculation, nobody is interested, so scat is a kind of shop, a freckle! am
          4. kos2910
            kos2910 22 October 2017 07: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: hrych
            Oka did not fall under the INF Treaty

            All this is so, and everyone understands that Iskanders with a nuclear charge cover 500 km easily. Yes, and 480km with 700kg is obviously artificial, but the INF Treaty itself is a filkin letter that displays naval and air assets from under the agreement. Then it was bad with us, now it’s good, and the Americans immediately started talking about withdrawing from the treaty, since all their advantages are leveled.
            1. hrych
              hrych 22 October 2017 09: 18 New
              +1
              Kodla, which rules the New World Order, is located in Europe, the US state under their control, as well as the EU, as well as the PRC with Japan. Their capital and main treasury is located in Switzerland, the important centers are London and the Vatican. The USA is a consumable for them and doesn’t have much to do with territorially. The INF Treaty is clearly in the interests of the territorial structures of this European center absolutely. We are destroyed by the Tridents and Tomahawks, we are destroyed by the USA by Satan, Stiletto and Blue. But Europe is stupidly nothing to get. She was not threatened by this treaty. In the United States, patriots of the United States came to power, and not globalists, they do not care about EU security, their power and wealth in the United States. Therefore, they are not interested in this contract at all. But the GDP knows who needs to be beaten at first and made the tools to beat the EU in the form of Iskander, moreover, with the BR and the KR, the same Caliber and universal Barrier. It’s very important to beat China and Japan because we have an additional problem in the confrontation. I think the topic is revealed drinks
              1. Dashout
                Dashout 22 October 2017 10: 42 New
                +5
                How did you attach China to them? We got excited, probably ... In order to remove the addiction, China began to sort of reorient production from export to the domestic market ... What does the Chinese Communist Party have to do with “kodla”?
                1. hrych
                  hrych 22 October 2017 18: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: Dashout
                  How did you attach China to them?

                  The deal between Mao and Nixon, or rather the PRC with the New Order, was concluded. China’s trade turnover with the United States reached half a trillion, with the EU - 220 billion, with Japan - 270 billion. for a trillion annual turnover of China with the Golden billion. This is economics, and now politics. With whom did China fight after the deal, of course with the USSR and Vietnam, and even more so. CCP - slaveholders of one ethnic clan. At the top of the pyramid, relatives of petty Dan, and the wives and sons-in-law of the party members are now billionaires ... So draw conclusions.
      2. nmaxxen
        nmaxxen 21 October 2017 21: 23 New
        +6
        Yeah, we’ve done business with cunning planes and geniuses of geopolitics, given away, or rather even shoved, Russian Ukraine into a hostile media, economic and military space
        front and possible launch points in our native Chernigov and Kharkov.
        But the compradors and ethnic mafia in power have become calmer - they once again divided and confused the Russians - you can rob and export them further.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 21 October 2017 20: 39 New
      10
      When do we already have a bang? wink
      1. Puss in Boots
        Puss in Boots 21 October 2017 20: 42 New
        10
        surely we shall beat, and more than once, the whole world is in ruin, but then wink
      2. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 21 October 2017 20: 43 New
        +5
        We never have a bang, for this we need to have willpower. We don’t have either one ...
        1. Puss in Boots
          Puss in Boots 21 October 2017 20: 46 New
          +9
          when you are pressed against a wall, no willpower will be remembered hi
          1. SERGE ANT
            SERGE ANT 21 October 2017 20: 52 New
            +4
            good So Eun was pinned all the same, he didn’t plump !!! The brain wasn’t drunk by the commanders of all the countries, thank God to plow ... laughing laughing laughing hi
            1. Puss in Boots
              Puss in Boots 21 October 2017 21: 40 New
              +6
              no one was pushing Kim, rather the opposite laughing hi
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 21 October 2017 20: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: SERGE ANT
          We must have will power. We don’t have either one ...
          Thank God . what not! The Americans do not either. They are North. They are afraid of Korea !!! No one wants to be suicides. So we bark at each other from behind the fence !! And keep the balance of weapons ...
        3. German1314
          German1314 21 October 2017 23: 50 New
          0
          First of all, brains. With a fool you can and x .. break
        4. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
          Alexander Abdrakhmanov 22 October 2017 00: 10 New
          +1
          What will power - if rockets take off on the machine. The surveillance system recorded the take-off of enemy missiles, the Perimeter command immediately goes and they will fly without human intervention.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 00: 40 New
            11
            Quote: Alexander Abdrakhmanov
            The surveillance system recorded the take-off of enemy missiles, the Perimeter command immediately goes and they will fly without human intervention

            Do not write nonsense.
            The perimeter is triggered (if sclerosis does not change me) when:
            1. There is no connection with the command
            2. Sensors (seismic, radiation, and others) show that a nuclear strike was delivered on the territory of the Russian Federation.
            There are also 3. and 4., but it’s concrete there - I don’t remember.
            Only then does the system issue a command to launch a command missile (s).
            Something like this.
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 22 October 2017 06: 03 New
              +1
              You are completely right. "Perimeter" - is intended for a guaranteed retaliatory strike in the conditions of destruction of command posts of the Strategic Missile Forces. See, when you write the truth, I agree with you.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 08: 21 New
                10
                Quote: zoolu350
                See when you write truth, I agree with you

                Hmm ...
                It is difficult to disagree with the fact that 2 * 2 = 4. What is written here is from this opera. This is a multiplication table, you "understand" it, and therefore agree.
                The other things that I write here are a little more complicated than just a multiplication table. You do not understand them, and therefore disagree. Although there it is also true.
                PS: Your opinion of me is very important to me laughing
                PPS: Not "write"(let's already write), and"write"(what are you doing). This mistake, by the way, says a lot about you. Including the age and the approximate time you received, ahem ... your education yes
                1. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 22 October 2017 19: 34 New
                  0
                  Good with a letter in the word caught. You can write it yourself in the Great Victory. I allow you to check me for spelling errors, and I will "kick" you for political ones.
        5. kos2910
          kos2910 22 October 2017 07: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: SERGE ANT
          We never have a bang - for this, willpower must have

          Never say never. But do you need to have willpower to recognize the reunification of Crimea with Russia? Well, then, everyone understands that there will be no winner until they are pinned to a corner - why rush to die? But they will not give up, then it’s as if the world is in ruins ...
    3. Monos
      Monos 21 October 2017 20: 42 New
      +7
      Quote: newbie
      somehow it was pleasant and warm in my soul.

      No matter how hot it becomes in the body. If there is a need for the use of "Iskander", this will mean ... You yourself know what.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 21 October 2017 20: 49 New
        +9
        for that they are, which would not have to be used.
        1. Monos
          Monos 21 October 2017 20: 52 New
          +7
          Quote: newbie
          for that they are, which would not have to be used.

          God forbid, God forbid ... Although, looking at how the world goes crazy, I stopped believing in the deterrence factor.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 21 October 2017 21: 09 New
            +7
            Monos, you see, if anything, then it’s all over. and it doesn’t matter who first started, the main thing is that we will finish everything. and therefore, why would I warm my soul thoughts about our superiority in rocket science. after all, that’s exactly what the brakes of the West are stirring.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 21 October 2017 21: 31 New
              +9
              Quote: newbie
              this is precisely what the brakes of the West are beating.

              The West holds the realization that the snag will be taken back, and their generals, homegrown with sticky sweat, are covered at the thought.
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                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 21 October 2017 22: 56 New
                      +9
                      Quote: SERGE ANT
                      I forgot about alcohol, how Rosneft came to us

                      Oh oh ???
                      Quote: SERGE ANT
                      and you look, you’re not drying up

                      Do not measure others by yourself - dear people have hinted to you more than once. Yes, you’re all for nothing.
                      Quote: SERGE ANT
                      Take care of yourself, Belarusian clown, it will be boring without you. Do not fuck, bite your raw potatoes better

                      But the fact that you are a boor and an ill-mannered person is not subject to the slightest doubt. It is strange that the moderators have not quenched you yet. Good luck, Cossack Yaitsky ... negative
                2. AID.S
                  AID.S 22 October 2017 00: 15 New
                  +3
                  Quote: SERGE ANT
                  Do you personally know the generals of the US Armed Forces

                  Well, they once had a minister of war (though not a general) before he dropped out of the window, saying that the Russians were coming ....
                  The fact, although few now know him personally, even in the states
                3. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
                  Alexander Abdrakhmanov 22 October 2017 00: 27 New
                  +5
                  Another defender of Russia was found, dressed as a liberal in the form of a sergeant. Probably from the headquarters of Navalny - the American general regretted that he was sweating, so wipe his sweat.
                  1. Dashout
                    Dashout 22 October 2017 10: 49 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Abdrakhmanov
                    disguised liberal in the uniform of a sergeant

                    Well yes! Above, look, he inserted a clip with a drug propaganda!
                    Absolutely fucked up ...
      2. Uryukc
        Uryukc 21 October 2017 20: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Monos
        If there is a need for the use of "Iskander", this will mean ... You yourself know what.

        Not necessarily, Iskander has already been used in Syria and Georgia, so the weapon is quite suitable for local conflicts.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 21 October 2017 21: 14 New
          +5
          Colega, with Monos, we mean Iskander missiles with a nuclear head. but. even in a non-nuclear version, also a terrible thing. Indeed, God forbid, what if we had to launch a rocket into someone even with an ordinary warhead.
          1. Uryukc
            Uryukc 22 October 2017 08: 55 New
            0
            Quote: newbie
            Monos and I mean Iskander missiles with a nuclear head

            I see. Thanks.
      3. kos2910
        kos2910 22 October 2017 07: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Monos
        You know what

        Well, there may be different warheads, so it’s not a fact ...
    4. Logall
      Logall 21 October 2017 20: 49 New
      16
      Quote: newbie
      somehow it was pleasant and warm in my soul.

      Still would! Today we impeach trump drinks And then there’s such news!
      No wonder you took a day off! Thrall initiator, throw off the plus sign ...
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 21 October 2017 20: 51 New
        +5
        one hundred pounds !!!
      2. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 21 October 2017 21: 01 New
        +3
        I am against, Logall! Trump to us in Kings, let the weapons allow ... wink
      3. Monos
        Monos 21 October 2017 21: 51 New
        11
        Quote: Logall
        Today we impeach trump

        Lied, devils. smile He went too, took two impeachments. drinks
    5. Gale
      Gale 21 October 2017 21: 02 New
      +7
      "c400 in action is the Americans' nightmare"
      "The United States is shocked by the lack of analogue of the world of Iskander"
      "NATO is terrified, the formidable su-35 at the borders of the alliance"
      it's no secret that such propaganda headlines cool the soul of cheers laughing
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 21 October 2017 21: 15 New
        10
        Why not? It’s nice to realize that we still have something and not everyone in the nineties lost. And it causes annoyance in you, like all guard patriots that Russia has modern weapons?
        1. Gale
          Gale 21 October 2017 21: 52 New
          +4
          I have such news only cause a smirk, since it is difficult to take them seriously.
        2. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
          Alexander Abdrakhmanov 22 October 2017 00: 38 New
          +2
          The team of Navalny gathered here, here they are for America and are sick.
      2. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 21 October 2017 22: 18 New
        11
        Yes, they are warming. And not only to the patriots. And to normal residents of Russia. And it’s good and right.
        I’m sure that you’re warming your soul or half a shekel for a post or articles about how Russia is falling apart.
        Dreaming
        Do not wait.
        Do not like it in Russia - bring it to hell. No one is holding.
        1. Gale
          Gale 21 October 2017 22: 52 New
          +4
          I suppose you get euphoric from the statues of Majumar from national interest in general? smile

          don't tell me what to do, and I won’t tell you where to go ...
          1. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 21 October 2017 23: 07 New
            +7
            don't tell me what to do, and I won’t tell you where to go ...

            Oh, oh .. How scary .... it's just not even funny ... Such an adult and independent - subdued ....
            Don’t tell you that, you’ll spoil the air.
            Go, go ...
            It is a great honor to write your answers.
            From you the trolline stinks.
        2. eklmn
          eklmn 22 October 2017 00: 44 New
          +3
          “Yes, they are warming. And not only to the patriots. And to normal residents of Russia. ”
          In fact, a normal resident of a normal state is warmed by confidence in the future, i.e. a normal salary, the health of his family, the opportunity to get a good education for children, medicine (albeit paid, but affordable), the opportunity to go on vacation with your family and not deny yourself something. And all this is available to any resident of this state-in the city / town / village / capital. This is warming.
          And the length of the rocket, or range, was all in the USSR. If you are writing from there, then it is time to look at the calendar or look around.
          And your country is friends with someone? Call me! And who are your good neighbors? Call me! No such? And why? Or ashamed to call?
          Are you scared? Yes! And so are you proud? So after all, Switzerland, or Austria or Finland - without any armies / missiles is stronger than Russia at times. Don't you envy them?
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 22 October 2017 05: 22 New
            +8
            I envy your naivety. without these missiles and everything else, we won’t have tomorrow, your striped jack will not let you lie. and you name at least one loyal neighbor at your place on the churchyard. and where can normal neighbors come from if your notorious Anaconda plan stalled at the final stage, thanks to GDP. and you wander further, you are our lost.
          2. demo
            demo 22 October 2017 06: 13 New
            +9
            Good day, my former compatriot.
            There is some inconsistency in your words, behind the external facade of logic.
            Everything you said is correct, but without reference to a specific situation.
            You can easily blame someone for what you are talking about.
            If we talk about the relationship of man to man, then yes.
            His capabilities, his relationships, his prospects, etc.
            But relations between states are not built on the principles of human relations.
            A different level, other goals, other tasks.
            That in the relations of people is meanness, in the relations of states is the norm.
            Ivan (John) filled the face of Eugene (Jack). Regarding, no reason - it does not matter.
            Relations are ruined. And maybe forever.
            The state fought yesterday a hundred years (the Hundred Years War of England and France), and then friendship, then war, then friendship. So unlike a stuffed face there are hundreds of thousands of corpses.
            Is this normal?
            Yes, unfortunately, fine.
            How many times have Russia and Germany fought in their history?
            How to evaluate the relationship and their prospects?
            Yes way.
            Today it is, and tomorrow it will be reversed.
            And no one in the leadership of the state is building illusions.
            The Friendship and Mutual Assistance Treaty is nothing more than paper.
            And she vomits and at that moment when it is beneficial to him.
            So with "friends" we probably figured it out !?
            Who in the USA goes to "real" friends?
            Japan (a couple of atomic bombs to strengthen friendship)?
            Germany (Ramstein's largest military base - the best friendly gift)?
            France (not a serious state with the aim of establishing "friendship").
            Spain, Italy, Portugal and further down the list.
            Who is friend? Real, faithful, faithful?
            Not a satellite, not a vassal !?
            Are countries that are either dependent on the United States or in manual control mode - are they friends?
            The “Free Western World" is a gang headed by "godfather", and there are a bunch of "bells" around them, which they occasionally "tilt" in order not to forget "who is the boss in the house."
            Dieselgate is a good example.
            And the creation of zones of non-stability in the BV and curatorship in matters of the destruction of many states, with the flow of refugees to Europe - is this a friendly step for the USA?
            Having one such "friend" you can safely go to the cemetery.

            As one sage said, to each his own.
            To whom vacation in the Bahamas, and to whom in the country near Zhmerinka.
            Both medicine and education. and social sphere is a very important component of the life of any person.
            But do not be cunning (age is not an excuse).
            Our country fell into the trap of ideological temptations.
            Jeans, Coca-Cola, chewing gum, etc.
            But it was a beautiful wrapper for the brains of our population.
            Attached to everything attractive - open homosexuality, same-sex marriage, juvenile parenting, disruption of lifestyle, the formation of consumer thinking, individualization of the citizen’s thinking, indifference and neglect of one’s neighbor, and much more that is so proud of Western society, posing as the highest achievement in the struggle for individual liberties.
            Banditry and robbery in everyday life, robbery and plunder of the state and national property from another came to us.
            And this took place under the slogans of striving to "fit into" the norms of Western society.
            But Western society did not want to take ours on an equal footing, we got the role of sex in the tavern - "serve, offer, go to e ..... m ......".
            On the one hand, the Bolshoi Theater, and on the other hand in the outskirts of the world.

            Any technologically complex product is an assessment of the intellectual development of society.
            No matter what it is intended for.
            The Free World and the USSR competed precisely in the area in which military equipment could start a conflict between themselves.
            We defended our ideals, our Western world.
            I do not like Western values. Generally. Individual - find understanding.
            No more.
            But I do not seek to prove to all those who do not share my point of view that they are wrong and that they need to immediately begin to rebuild themselves. Let them live as they want.
            But to change myself for the sake of a different point of view and a style of behavior that is alien to me, I will not and will not allow this to happen to myself.
            But the efforts to rebuild me and my philosophy may be different.
            From broadcasting information programs (Voice of America from Washington with Seva Novgorodtsev) to sponsoring frantic Russophobes (Baltic, Poland, Ukraine).
            Here, any methods are convenient and good.
            And what tools are used to destabilize both my consciousness (the danger of a direct military conflict) and the economic situation (sanctions for fictitious reasons) more and more convince me and my compatriots that we should not be complacent and wait for “that pregnancy will resolve itself. "
            Will not resolve.
            The conflict will deepen.
            And no matter how sad it is, it will have a bloody sequel.
            Nowhere without it.
            And not our fault.
            But the worse is the one who started and sponsored it.
            And you, as my former compatriot, need to think about where, before it’s too late, to move from “a country of eternal happiness, green paper, tolerant politicians, kind and helpful military men”, a country that has been carrying peace for the last hundred years, the light of friendship, the warmth of love for one’s neighbor (and far).
            For you will not be happy to burn in a nuclear fire?
            And you will not be reassured that this fire came for you from your former homeland?
            Although this will probably "warm" you!
            So move somewhere to Honduras, and preferably Chile.
            And then tell me and us about how the locals treat you, who will turn to you like a gringo.
            Then share your impressions with us. And about that shame that you certainly won’t have to. Because you will try to prove to everyone that you are a former citizen of Russia and you have nothing to do with the United States.

            I understand only one thing.
            A person who has gone to seek a better life across the ocean, having broken with his country, seeking and finding the negative aspects of our life (and who without it?) Is probably not a bad person, but we are not a brother.
            Rejoice at the good American road, excellent health care, excellent education, relaxed lifestyle.
            And, may the confidence in tomorrow not leave you!

            But the longing for communication with Russian speakers sticks !?
            Yes?
            For what the hell are you doing here?
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 24 October 2017 10: 35 New
              +6
              Clearly, beautifully, on business, from the heart.
              Thanks and plus. yes
              And as for the former compatriot who
              behind the external facade of logic, there is some inconsistency.

              He is at work. Money doesn't smell. According to this principle, and lives.
              It’s difficult to answer seriously like that - you always want to send him on a sexual walk. For each post - money is dripping, for every comment on a branch - the same ....
              God be their judge.
          3. Dashout
            Dashout 22 October 2017 10: 54 New
            +6
            Quote: eklmn
            In fact, a normal resident of a normal state is warmed by confidence in the future, i.e. a normal salary, the health of his family, the opportunity to get a good education for children, medicine (albeit paid, but affordable), the opportunity to go on vacation with your family and not deny yourself something. And all this is available to any resident of this state-in the city / town / village / capital. This is warming.

            Propaganda started for the money of the State Department ...
            Vlasovec
          4. Monos
            Monos 22 October 2017 13: 04 New
            +8
            Quote: eklmn
            So after all, Switzerland, or Austria or Finland - without any armies / missiles is stronger than Russia at times.

            laughing laughing laughing What is Switzerland and Austria! San Marino and Monaco - these are the true strongmen!
            What, my dear, did not work out life in America? Is there no turning back? smile Well, you can’t show your anger and envy so frankly! Well yes. We somehow survived without you and corrected the situation. Now we can boast not only of a comfortable (not so satisfying, but not hungry) life, but also our military power. Maintain an independent policy and ignore other people's claims. And you, my friend, you lost your roots and your identity of your own free will, in the pursuit of a hamburger. smile You won’t believe it, but I’m glad that people like you have fallen from the Country. Because of you, there was a rebuild and breakdown of the system. Your emigration is a kind of catharsis for the Country, purification. We will go further and be proud of our Country. And you have nothing to be proud of. Well, it’s ridiculous to be proud that you can afford not just one hamburger, but two? All the best to you, my former compatriot. Do not forget to pay interest on loans. laughing
          5. Lev Bronsch
            Lev Bronsch 22 October 2017 13: 09 New
            +5
            Yes, yes, we are all aware that omega is a paradise on earth, you can not strain too much laughing . But how do you explain the fact of the super-gigantic military budget of your "paradise" and why several hundred bases around the world in a friendly and good-neighborly state? To the neighbors loved them even more? Guessed? bully
            Well, seriously, then your manuals in the 90s got stuck, hack ... oh they won’t pay you for such a mess! laughing
          6. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 23 October 2017 09: 21 New
            +5
            In fact, a normal resident of a normal state is warmed by confidence in the future, i.e. a normal salary, the health of his family, the opportunity to get a good education for children, medicine (albeit paid, but affordable), the opportunity to go on vacation with your family and not deny yourself something. And all this is available to any resident of this state-in the city / town / village / capital. This is warming.

            haha three times .... Come on, come on .. From now on in more detail.
            All states live exactly as you painted here? laughing
            Do not tell my slippers ...
            it’s time to look at the calendar or look around.

            He looked and looked around - not in the yard disgusting time and ugly international situation (how many are there on the clock before a nuclear war?). And who is to blame? Putin again? He was pushing bases to the borders of the Russian Federation. Is he afraid of North Korea as an aircraft carrier? Is he, such a bastard, cheating with the destruction of nuclear weapons? You can go on forever ....
            And your country is friends with someone? Call me!

            There are enough healthy and normal relations with many countries.
            But as for the states, the question is, no matter where you go about your democracy, you look and there is no state, or the war broke out with might and main. Do not remember such states? Remind me?
            Call me!
            yourself.
            Or ashamed to call?
            Or do you have no idea where Syria, Libya, Iraq?
            Can you recall about Yugoslavia? No?
            Surprisingly, how else have you not taken to impose democracy among penguins in the Arctic ?! There is the same bloody regime led by satrap penguins, which prevents you from pumping oil! Faster there! There you are "waiting"! Or have you not set up icebreakers yet? Or is Putin getting in the way again?
            Are you scared? Yes!
            This is a good question and no less good answer. They themselves asked, they themselves answered ... I will slightly correct your foam pearls:
            To whom it is profitable, they are afraid. Those who are interested in collaborating - they work quite well and don’t think about any fears.
            So after all, Switzerland, or Austria or Finland - without any armies / missiles is stronger than Russia at times.

            No comments.... laughing
            But how does it happen that they are afraid of us, according to your statements, and they are never afraid of Switzerland, Austria, Finland? Are they so peaceful or are they just not visible on the map?
            Do not bother to answer. Bored with you.
    6. Dead duck
      Dead duck 21 October 2017 22: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: newbie
      somehow it was nice and warm in my soul

      hi
      and the yankers in his pants warmed with fear laughing
    7. Chestnut
      Chestnut 22 October 2017 02: 07 New
      +3
      Russians are the best in rocket construction.
      We need to invest even more in our rocket technology in order to be not just the best, to be out of reach.
      In particular, a stealth shell and new means of rocket protection are needed, at least to tighten the flue.
      I'm honestly shocked how the rocket industry survived in the nineties! How?!!!
      The names of the heroes will remain unknown.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 02: 20 New
        +9
        Quote: Chestnut
        In particular, a stealth shell and new rocket protection, at least tighten the smoke

        GYYY laughing laughing laughing
        Well, you can’t do that ... I won’t sleep now ...
        A hut, a hut, turn to me in the forest, and to the ass in front ... I thought a hut, thought ... and completely hung ...

        Here I am right now, like that hut ... smoke ... to a ballistic missile ...
        GYYY laughing laughing laughing
    8. smart ass
      smart ass 22 October 2017 05: 38 New
      0
      Guys tell me and iskander caliber does not bullet or "ball"?
  2. ser-pov
    ser-pov 21 October 2017 20: 31 New
    +1
    Again, they have little money to cut ....
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 21 October 2017 20: 54 New
      +5
      I’m sure that in Russia they will test a new cartridge for Makarov’s pistol, something similar to the article under discussion will immediately come out, followed by the formation of public opinion to increase the military budget.
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 21 October 2017 21: 47 New
        +7
        I’m just sure that our media do not know how to talk about the achievements of Russia, but they are. And first of all, it’s TV, more and more chernukha rushing, probably more citizens are interested.
        We need to talk about everything and about good and about bad and about new production, and about the emergency house.
        So your irony is inappropriate.
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 21 October 2017 22: 14 New
          +6
          I’m just sure that our media do not know how to talk about the achievements of Russia, but they are.

          I agree with you. historically, marketing is very lame in us.
          But we did not train too much.
          We didn’t give the natives glass balls for gold and bought the land of the current American cities for a herd of buffalo (or sheep - I don’t remember stupidly what it was). And these have long mastered the technology of sales.
          First postulate: not yet done, but already sold.
          And with us - quite the opposite. And, historically, modesty is a characteristic feature of the Slavs.
          1. skylare
            skylare 22 October 2017 01: 14 New
            +4
            We didn’t give glass to the natives for gold

            And furs from small nationalities were acquired only for cash and at a fair price. Idealizing, of course, is useful - but you need to somehow measure.
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 23 October 2017 09: 26 New
              +5
              And also drove small nationalities on the reservation, destroyed entire tribes, harassed buffalo (in our case, lemmings or deer laughing ) so that there would be nothing to eat for small nationalities, they would throw plague blankets ....
              you need to know the measure

              Yes Yes Yes...
        2. eklmn
          eklmn 22 October 2017 05: 40 New
          +1
          “I’m just sure that our media do not know how to talk about Russia's achievements, but they are”
          So after all, increasing the flight range of the rocket by 100 km is a huge achievement!
          And your media do not hide this! Even the foreign media (one!) Also noticed (and).
          And by the way, in ballet you are still leaders. And the harvest is huge - 130 million tons of grain (it’s true that there is nowhere to store it, and you can’t immediately put it up for sale - prices will fall ten times and even feed it for livestock feed), but it’s a record! And they write about him!
  3. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 October 2017 20: 31 New
    +3
    Cover this rocket with radar absorbing material and here you have a stealth rocket.
    1. poquello
      poquello 21 October 2017 20: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Cover this rocket with radar absorbing material and here you have a stealth rocket.

      hz than covered, but the stealth for the iskander is already there
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 21 October 2017 21: 17 New
        +4
        And I’m wondering, in case the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, Russia already has a rocket for Iskander with a range of 3-5 thousand? Putin kind of said that the answer would be immediate, and Ivanov hinted that the development of such a missile was already underway.
        1. SERGE ANT
          SERGE ANT 21 October 2017 21: 34 New
          +3
          Ivanov promised a lot of things. I should have had a private plane, to believe our authorities, not to respect myself.
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 21 October 2017 21: 44 New
            +8
            Believe it or not, it’s everyone’s personal affair. Of course you need to judge by deeds, but what Ivanov didn’t promise, it’s a personal plane for everyone. By the way, he didn’t promise a medium-range missile, but said that some work was just being done.
            The champion on promises we had was Boris Yeltsin and lay down under the train and gave his hands for clipping.
            . lol
        2. poquello
          poquello 21 October 2017 22: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Ulan
          And I’m wondering, in case the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, Russia already has a rocket for Iskander with a range of 3-5 thousand? Putin kind of said that the answer would be immediate, and Ivanov hinted that the development of such a missile was already underway.

          but where, even in Venezuela, the scanners were not brought
  4. pvv113
    pvv113 21 October 2017 20: 34 New
    10
    American media with alarm

    Already the good news!
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 21 October 2017 20: 37 New
    +2
    However, we must pay tribute to the American press, they write as if the American army has weapons at the level of the civil war that took place in the United States in the 19th century ....
    1. waitknait
      waitknait 21 October 2017 20: 44 New
      +2
      You lie fse! ...
      The fact is that these star-striped comrades, in their overwhelming majority (99,99%), believe that our military-industrial complex, in addition to Kalash and “Kuzkin’s mother”, is no longer able to do anything modern. We are for them fucking barbarians ... who constantly drink and beat each other.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 21 October 2017 21: 29 New
        +4
        Yes ... but the American citizen will be scared ... what the press itself is trying to ... scare, fool ... That the taxpayer would gladly give money for new military expenses, and not demand for social needs ...
  6. waitknait
    waitknait 21 October 2017 20: 40 New
    +2
    I immediately remember right away from "NashaRasha" - "Hey Glory, I’ll point out something!".
    These comrades do not yet know what surprises are coming ... ps. I'm completely serious!
  7. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 21 October 2017 20: 41 New
    +2
    This is a constant hype in the American media about the “bad Russians” and the intimidation of the population by the alleged “military power” of Russia is similar to the preparation of the American population for the war against Russia. I don’t understand how they were going to fight, given our nuclear potential? Or do they believe that in the near future they will really be able to neutralize it with missile defense?
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 21 October 2017 20: 58 New
      0
      Quote: _Jack_
      This is a constant hype in the American media about the “bad Russians” and the intimidation of the population by the alleged “military power” of Russia is similar to preparing the American population for the war against Russia

      It is so winked That's just how far you need to be short-sighted, in order to believe that a missile with a flight range of 500 versts is dangerous for the "stronghold of democracy", which is located behind a large Atlantic puddle for several thousand of the same standard versts what?
      PS Alaska does not count - they sleep and see how to return to their native land repeat wassat
    2. IL-18
      IL-18 21 October 2017 21: 03 New
      +7
      Problem. The missile defense positional areas are covered by Iskandeams from the Kaliningrad Region. and Crimea. And if you are the first to hit the Iskander, then the answer will fly in a few minutes, but directly to the United States. And the Iskanders still need to get through the S-400, Tor, etc., to the heap launches and take-offs are recorded. In short, wherever you throw, a wedge is everywhere, or rather the whole world is in ruins.
      1. Dashout
        Dashout 22 October 2017 11: 03 New
        +4
        I agree. Plusanul. But here is what Trump can do if he, as sometimes happens, has no logic in making decisions .. won't get in?
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 22 October 2017 11: 44 New
          +2
          The right question! It is from such trumps that a nuclear triad exists. I don’t think that the Americans in the nineties perceived Yeltsin with his drunken trousers to be complacent that he could order (?) Drunk, but the answer would also come from them, if that. Therefore, they not only disarmed us at their own expense, but also supported the existing strategic nuclear forces at home.
          And they perceived Putin’s arrival as getting rid of a drunkard as an adequate obedient partner who was allowed to put things in order in the North Caucasus, but he did not live up to their expectations. At least, so in Egypt one former ours, now an American told me many years ago.
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 21 October 2017 20: 43 New
    +5
    The West is crying, Russia is applauding, what could be better !?
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 21 October 2017 20: 48 New
    +4
    "Wasp" did not fall under the RMDS no Marked added her there, in order to please the master. Like a gesture of goodwill. Type "peace, friendship, chewing gum forever" wassat
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 21 October 2017 21: 24 New
      +4
      The Wasp is still in service.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 21 October 2017 21: 37 New
        +6
        I agree!!! I admit my typo according to Freud recourse I actually meant OTRK Oka
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 21 October 2017 23: 26 New
          +2
          Now, a blunder. What is interesting is the potential in Osu, which will soon be half a century, as if in service. Although, "Tokchka-U" is also in service.
        2. reservist
          reservist 22 October 2017 00: 01 New
          +4


          E. Shevardnadze entered the "Oku" on the list for destruction.
          Gorbachev obediently agreed and signed.
          1. reservist
            reservist 22 October 2017 00: 04 New
            +3




            The legendary SS-23 Spider (OTR-23 Oka) - weaves an invisible web
  10. Fedorov
    Fedorov 21 October 2017 20: 53 New
    +2
    The people! Do you even watch telly sometimes, I rarely.
    But there, the GDP specifically said, if they say something is wrong with the contracts, we will give an instant answer, and repeated - an instant.
    There is definitely a certain racket (due to sanctions launched from a volleyball shuttlecock judging by Western media) Iskander flies on, and FIG knows how and where (maybe Koneshenkov knows). Moreover, the word "Zircon" in addition to the press pockets of the media drives the mind of any "Western experts". wink
  11. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 21 October 2017 21: 17 New
    +2
    Iskander has a small warhead. In the event of a global conflict, it can play a role only in mass application. To do this, there must be many hundreds, and this is still far away. 70-100 pcs, which are now, will not do the weather.
    The ax has a mass of the warhead is almost the same, so in Syria there are 50 of them. needed to destroy a small field airfield. Moreover, the damage was such that the airfield was restored quite quickly.
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov 21 October 2017 21: 34 New
      +5
      Well, I'm sorry, probably a real special. Yes, and how do you forgive me for knowing what, let’s say from Kaliningrad, the geyrop and not only dozens of warheads cost at all, and what is the difference in defeat?
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 21 October 2017 23: 53 New
        0
        You connect thoughts so strange that it’s hard to understand what you had in mind, even worry about you. I understood only this
        Well, I'm sorry, probably a real special.

        You don’t need to be a specialist here - all the information in open sources is not a secret to anyone that I wrote about the number and mass of the warhead of the iskander and axes.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 October 2017 22: 17 New
      0
      Iskander becomes dangerous only with a nuclear warhead. With conventional ones, it is roughly equivalent to the exact 1000 pound bomb - NATO's standard weapon.
      Launch Iskander - a major priority target for the enemy. To cover them, you have to
      involve armor, and Buki, and S-300. Which complicates the mobility of the Iskander.
      Therefore, the overall effectiveness in conventional warfare is not very clear.
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 22 October 2017 00: 02 New
        0
        Well, the mobility of the Iskanders, in any case, is their advantage. After all, you can change positions and secretly for a potential enemy. The “major priority target for the adversary” must be constantly monitored and spent on intelligence resources. And if there are a lot of them, then tracking everything down will always be unlikely. But if there are 70 of them, then yes - they will be destroyed among the first.
  12. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 21 October 2017 21: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: _Jack_
    Iskander has a small warhead. In the event of a global conflict, it can play a role only in mass application. To do this, there must be many hundreds, and this is still far away. 70-100 pcs, which are now, will not do the weather.
    The ax has a mass of the warhead is almost the same, so in Syria there are 50 of them. needed to destroy a small field airfield. Moreover, the damage was such that the airfield was restored quite quickly.

    Well, out of 50, only 26 flew, and where the rest perished everyone was silent (both ours and the "partners"), I think it was no accident that Trump and the Pentagon launched projects to rearm their nuclear forces, and not only them. In the meantime, their hands are short - they are trying to "get" the Russian Federation through their liberalist communities. They are trying to decompose through a subculture, which they push through the "free" artists / directors!
  13. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 21 October 2017 21: 47 New
    +1
    US media anxiously reported

    Why should they be afraid? They will not reach the puddle before them; for them, "yars" and "maces"
  14. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 21 October 2017 21: 59 New
    +6
    Well, if the Americans howl about North Korea, and consider the figures for the effectiveness of their own missile defense unacceptable (this is when calculating, for some reason, launching 9 ballistic missiles), we can only guess how much trouble such news brings to them.
    On the other hand - in their case - howling more is always useful for financial well-being ... Money will be added for any reason.
  15. Curious
    Curious 21 October 2017 22: 27 New
    +2
    "American media scared the test of a new Russian rocket"
    Those who know the language of frightened Americans can follow the link and try to find signs of fright in the article.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 23: 07 New
      +9
      Quote: Curious
      ... in the language of frightened Americans ...

      ... really enjoyed it. I never thought that the language of frightened Americans is different from the language of Americans who are not frightened laughing
  16. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 21 October 2017 23: 11 New
    +3
    The main Russian argument of the XXI century



    A-235 Nudol is a new three-echelon strategic missile defense system, and its main element is a new generation of Russian missile defense systems capable of shooting down - attention! - Both the combat units of the attacking enemy ICBMs and enemy satellites in near-earth orbits. Many people want to create such a weapon, but, perhaps, only we came close to it. And this is due to the fact that “Nudol” was not born from scratch, it is the heiress to the unique A-135 Amur missile defense system, which was deployed around Moscow in Soviet times.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2017 00: 00 New
      0
      A-235 "Nudol" - a new three-echelon strategic missile defense system in Moscow - serves to temporarily delay the destruction of the capital, in the event of a massive attack on warheads. In service with 92 launchers.
      1. iouris
        iouris 22 October 2017 00: 59 New
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        Cities and infrastructure cannot be protected. Protection is only a high probability of guaranteed unacceptable damage resulting from a retaliatory strike. It makes sense to defend the capital only if this is the area where the retaliatory strike missiles are based.
    2. Sharansky
      Sharansky 22 October 2017 13: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      and enemy satellites in near-earth orbits.

      tests were carried out or all at the level of tales?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 October 2017 16: 24 New
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        Of course at the level of tales - the system has not yet been adopted.
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  18. iouris
    iouris 22 October 2017 00: 56 New
    +1
    RSD type SS-20 are required. It is high time to denounce all treaties with the United States and no longer enter into any negotiations until NATO is dissolved.
  19. shinobi
    shinobi 22 October 2017 02: 36 New
    0
    The key phrase is that they do not outwardly look right! Be afraid, because when you replace a regular warhead (400-700kg weight) with a nuclear warhead (80-150kg), the flight range doubles. And which option is installed, the calculation will be recognized only before deployment.
  20. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 22 October 2017 04: 08 New
    +2
    In the country, only the military-industrial complex is in step with the times! Economy in a deep ass.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 October 2017 11: 05 New
      0
      The budget deficit for the next year is less than one percent - so the economy is not in the ass, we just have too many necessary expenses.
    2. Dashout
      Dashout 22 October 2017 11: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: tolmachiev51
      In the country, only the military-industrial complex is in step with the times! Economy in a deep ass.

      This is true! In many respects, thanks to the fact that in his time Rogozin prudently removed the Military Industrial Commission from Medvedev's subordination.
  21. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 October 2017 05: 40 New
    0
    It is strange that Newsweek, unlike the curators, did not find any violations of the INF Treaty in Iskander. After the illegally liquidated Oka, for which no one paid, even morally, it would be completely in the stream (which - guess yourself laughing State Department policy.
  22. nikolaev
    nikolaev 22 October 2017 07: 00 New
    0
    What is crazy? - Inadequate reaction to what is happening. They would be glad that partners are successful, and they are scared and envious
  23. Cuba
    Cuba 22 October 2017 07: 24 New
    0
    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    it’s clear to the goat that a 200 kiloton charge weighing about 150 kg will fly away

    :


    Particularly far and without a chance to defend himself against him, he can fly away in the ordinary banal SUITCASE !!! ... or in ... yes, in anything, even in the toilet! ... I think, comrade Kim has brought such ummies to our "partners" pretty !!
  24. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 October 2017 12: 36 New
    +1
    Well, yes, how to encircle us around the perimeter with your troops and missile defense, so everything is fine.
    As we begin to level these threats, so everyone, Russians are threatening the whole world.
    I wonder if marine modification is possible?
  25. Shuttle
    Shuttle 22 October 2017 13: 46 New
    0
    I’ve been thinking about producing diapers in the territory temporarily controlled by the American media.
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 22 October 2017 14: 39 New
    0
    stupid, well-fed and self-satisfied Yankees understand only a good bashing, and they should really feel this bashing, that's all ...