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BDK "Ivan Gren" tested in the sea artillery complex

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The large landing ship Ivan Gren tested the AK-630m airborne artillery system at sea, the Baltic Press Service reports fleet.


Now the newest BDK is undergoing factory tests in the Baltic Sea, during which the functioning of the AK-630м small artillery complex was checked.

Earlier, the crew of a large amphibious assault ship, as part of factory tests, loaded military equipment into the sea to conduct electromagnetic treatment of the hull using the CP-28 and CP-936 degaussing vessels to reduce the physical field.

BDK "Ivan Gren" tested in the sea artillery complex


The next stage of the test program will be artillery firing at a naval target-stand and a mock of a floating naval mine.

We remind you that the Ivan Gren BDK was designed at the Nevsky Design Bureau. The well-proven Soviet project 1171 was taken as the basis. However, in the design process it was seriously refined. It was laid down at the Baltic Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad in December 2004, launched in May 2012, factory sea trials began in the second half of June 2016. It is planned to transfer the ship to the military before the end of 2017. It is also sometimes called the Russian Mistral, as Ivan Gren is able to carry 13 main tanks, 36 armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles or 300 paratroopers. It is possible to deliver to the destination a reinforced company of marine corps with standard equipment and land them on pontoons brought with them.

The basis of the BDK weapons are six-barrel automatic 30-millimeter guns. Also in the hangars are based two Ka-29 helicopters.

After the state tests the ship will be part of the Northern Fleet.
Photos used:
Peter Kovalev / TASS
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  1. Zibelew
    Zibelew 21 October 2017 17: 02 New
    +3
    Maybe they will hand it over in 2018? Quite a good BDK. His fate is simply complicated ...
    1. Eggor
      Eggor 21 October 2017 17: 15 New
      +3
      From the factory newspaper (taken from forums.airbase.ru):

    2. 73bor
      73bor 21 October 2017 21: 01 New
      +5
      C'mon, I thought he was just a BDK, and he turns out to be a super cruiser with the inclinations of an aircraft carrier! I don’t even want to react to such news.
  2. Kurare
    Kurare 21 October 2017 17: 06 New
    22
    It is also sometimes called the Russian Mistral ...

    He smiled strongly. The BDK is of good construction, but it is far enough from the UDC, and their tasks are completely different. Journalists, Mlyn ...
    1. dima9990
      dima9990 21 October 2017 19: 40 New
      +2
      With tongue removed. At least they compared the sizes of one and the second, for starters.
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 21 October 2017 23: 07 New
      +3
      76 mm fluff was discreetly removed from its good design (which is not a fact), replacing it with a Duet (IMHO is by no means equivalent) and 2 MLRS were completely removed (instead of increasing the range of its firing). Did the boat get any better from this? I doubt it ... hi
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 22 October 2017 02: 58 New
        +2
        Therefore, the ship was built for such a long time that so many changes were made to it. The fact that the MLRS was removed is bad, strong support for the marines at the landing, and it was not in vain to strengthen the air defense a little.

        In any case, IMHO, the time of the BDK is the past, the concept of UDC is better. But as a BDK, the ship is really not bad.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 22 October 2017 05: 42 New
          +1
          What difference does it take to transport bombs to Syria
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 22 October 2017 13: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: Clever man
            What difference does it take to transport bombs to Syria

            With the same success, you can build a container ship, raise the Andreevsky Flag on it, install several machine guns and carry bombs on it. The cheapness of such a solution is just off scale!
          2. Grits
            Grits 23 October 2017 04: 00 New
            +2
            What difference does it take to transport bombs to Syria
            It’s no longer necessary to Syria - the Americans have spoiled all the oil for themselves. So you can curtail - the operation was drowned.
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 22 October 2017 09: 59 New
          +3
          As far as I know, mistakes were made in the design of the ship that did not allow it to be properly demagnetized. Therefore, he was tormented so much by alterations. And as a result, they got a ship rather than a ship.
          Therefore, brave type - we easily build the analogue of Mistral - I take it very wary. hi
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 22 October 2017 10: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: Kurare
          The fact that the MLRS was removed is bad, strong support for the marines at the landing, and it was not in vain to strengthen the air defense a little.

          1. The destination of Gren - SF, SevMorPut! Well, why would he "rustzho" against the coast?
          2. The air defense of the ship with the threat of an attack by the enemy’s airborne forces is enhanced by the landing fire weapons. There is a schedule for the "sides" (posts) of all anti-aircraft guns with MANPADS. Modern "Pine", well, wow !!!
          3. The concept of Grena (ship-to-shore through a spacer-pontoon) for the enemy shore and the coast of the coast not equipped with engineering is flawed! Therefore, there will not be a large "series", but only 2 units for the Arctic basin ...
          Somehow, however ...
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 22 October 2017 13: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: BoA KAA
            Somehow, however ...

            So yes! The concept of a BDK with a direct landing on the landing coast is the past. The future is still for UDC.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 22 October 2017 13: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: Kurare
              The future is still for UDC.

              Maybe behind the landing ekranoplanes ... But the fact that the landing should be “beyond the horizon” in order to exclude the impact of the PDO’s artillery on the carrier is for sure. yes
              1. Kurare
                Kurare 22 October 2017 13: 38 New
                +3
                I think that the ekranoplanes will still be complementary to the UDC, since support helicopters and transport of paratroopers cannot be placed on them.

                In general, landing by any means with modern weapons and countermeasures is an extremely risky task.
    3. Grits
      Grits 23 October 2017 03: 58 New
      +1
      In addition, only another such ship follows Gren and that’s it - the project was closed.
  3. Aleksandr_2
    Aleksandr_2 21 October 2017 17: 11 New
    20
    a couple of years of testing and you can write off the scrap by age ......
    1. Don
      Don 21 October 2017 17: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: Aleksandr_2
      a couple of years of testing and you can write off the scrap by age ......

      Her, it seems to me that now only in parades and exhibitions will they drag him. In general, modern Russia has such a very bad tradition of building ships for decades and very small series, after which they begin a new project. Although, Ivan Gren language will not turn to be called a new series. Rather, a worsened version of the Soviet 1171 project. In any case, I wish good luck to the crew in mastering this "miracle of domestic shipbuilding."
      1. Aleksandr_2
        Aleksandr_2 21 October 2017 18: 36 New
        +5
        The practice of the domestic military shipbuilding suggests that the upcoming state tests will be delayed for years ...... but they will drag him to the exhibition in St. Petersburg in 2018 as the 14 year old latest ship laughing
  4. padded jacket
    padded jacket 21 October 2017 17: 13 New
    +6
    Yes, now judging by his armament, he will have to single out another ship for his protection, and could deliver something more solid, for example, at least some sort of air defense system.
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 21 October 2017 17: 19 New
      +6
      SAM, if available, can be put on a helipad.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 21 October 2017 17: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Zibelew
        SAM, if available, can be put on a helipad.

        Yes, I know, but this either severely limits the ability to base helicopters on a ship or even makes it impossible for them to take off and land.
      2. Don
        Don 21 October 2017 17: 58 New
        10
        Quote: Zibelew
        SAM, if available, can be put on a helipad.

        You can still additionally load Armata tanks on the upper cargo deck and you will get a destroyer wassat
      3. donavi49
        donavi49 21 October 2017 18: 57 New
        +3
        You are silent that the results of the placement were deemed inappropriate. He had 240 degrees of exposure (that is, he did not see the Kirov airship there laughing ) And in general, the low placement of radars at sea proved to be bad.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 21 October 2017 17: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Could and something more impressive to put for example at least some sort of air defense systems.

      Appetizer degree steals. (S)
      BDK has its own tasks. And torture to put on it a set of tools that provide full protection from an air enemy will only complicate their implementation.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 21 October 2017 17: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        BDK has its own tasks. And torture to put on it a set of tools that provide full protection from an air enemy will only complicate their implementation.

        Well, this is understandable, but still I would like to have some sort of short-range self-defense air defense system.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 21 October 2017 18: 55 New
          +7
          He is not there. That is the problem. Well, that is, they could put Bending - but to the point. Carapace - Gren is the most expensive BDK in history. Yes, and the change would go to 2020. Everything.

          Erzac Tor - in fact, showed poor efficiency. Including due to shading. Plus, for a paratrooper, a helicopter is much more important than an air defense system. For if the air defense system came in handy, then something went very wrong. And a helicopter is a direct target work on the deployment of reconnaissance groups, evacuation, removal of the wounded, etc.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 21 October 2017 19: 53 New
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          short-range self-defense.

          AK-630 is a short-range air defense.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 21 October 2017 20: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Dart2027
            AK-630 is a short-range air defense.

            Well, still in the air defense system even for example, the range is more flexible than the AK-630 and the Duet
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 21 October 2017 21: 43 New
              0
              More, but on the other hand, its air defense is escort ships, and its own for show.
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 23 October 2017 14: 48 New
                0
                Quote: Dart2027
                More, but on the other hand, its air defense is escort ships, and its own for show.

                Unfortunately, there are not so many escort ships now.
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 21 October 2017 17: 13 New
    +7
    in general, it is expected to be received in November !!! as soon as possible, the ship is simply handsome. it’s a pity that there will be only two of them and the series ends.
  6. senima56
    senima56 21 October 2017 17: 15 New
    +4
    The long-suffering "Ivan Gren" .... Can it really be completed and really handed over to the fleet? Well, if he also will swim ..... then yours!
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 21 October 2017 17: 42 New
      +9
      colleague, we will swim and swim in the sea, and the ship walks on the sea.
    2. 73bor
      73bor 21 October 2017 21: 06 New
      +1
      It’s time to simply discard this ship and not bother!
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 21 October 2017 21: 44 New
        +4
        how fast you are. what do you offer in return?
  7. Dead duck
    Dead duck 21 October 2017 17: 47 New
    +7
    "Isn't it time for us ... is time" ...
    like China and the states high-speed, large-capacity vessels (ships) support.
    at least a couple ... or even to Syria we are driving everything that is available ... request
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 21 October 2017 18: 00 New
    +5
    The large landing ship Ivan Gren tested the AK-630m airborne artillery system at sea

    I hope not far from the Baltic states wink
  9. Nemesis
    Nemesis 21 October 2017 18: 17 New
    +2
    It’s more like a tank landing ship, and not Mistral, but the terms of its construction, it’s just awful.
  10. faiver
    faiver 21 October 2017 18: 19 New
    +5
    again, this term is "newest", well, in what place is it the newest? what amateurism? that's why in this country in our country everything is not thank God because the boots are sharpened by a pie, and the shoemaker bakes pastries ... hi
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 21 October 2017 18: 39 New
    0
    It’s going to end the torment. Damn, but the "carrier" designed this ship ... It seems that everything in it is almost "stealth" and here you have such a ladle.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 October 2017 18: 59 New
      +5
      And what is the solution? When he is washed ashore - there is generally harsh pornography, not for the faint of heart, with a pontoon bridge.

      According to the idea, this whole concept must be abandoned. To make a normal ship with a docking chamber through which tank landing boats and amphibious forces exit. And do not drag the ship into the bay at the very slow turn, where it will shoot all the hijacked assets from the pickup with which TOU to the T-55 and mortars.
  12. nnz226
    nnz226 21 October 2017 19: 04 New
    +2
    To “Mistral” “Grena”, as to Kiev in a plastunsky way! More than a dozen helicopters could be based on the Mistral, including the Ka-52 drums, but here? A couple of pieces, and then - Ka-29. Transport assault anti-submarine ... And where is the support of the assault fire ??? AK-630 is a good metal cutting, but not against the coastal fortifications that the landed assault will have to storm. And "Alligators" (or their marine version) would be very welcome!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 October 2017 19: 07 New
      +2
      One helicopter in the hangar. You can hold another one in the front landing. But this is an option in overload. Normally he works with an 1 helicopter.
    2. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 21 October 2017 19: 44 New
      +1
      It is also sometimes called the Russian "Mistral"

      Yes, this ridiculous phrase cut her eyes too.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 21 October 2017 20: 36 New
    0
    After the state tests the ship will be part of the Northern Fleet.

    When?
    Given that
    It was laid down at the Baltic Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad in December 2004,
  14. Tests
    Tests 21 October 2017 20: 51 New
    +2
    It’s time, my personal opinion, may be wrong, send this ship for 2 years to the Black Sea Fleet. Let it work on the Syrian Express. More than one comment has already been written about the castrated weapons of this long-term construction.
    Under the cover of “Admiral Essen” or “Admiral Grigorovich” and “Buyanov-M” (and in a year, I really hope the fleet will receive “Karakurt”), it will be possible to run the team around this creation of “Amber”. And then a year of repair and it will be possible to launch it in the Arctic.
  15. exo
    exo 21 October 2017 22: 49 New
    +1
    In my unprofessional opinion: 1174 “Ivan Rogov”, or rather its later corps, were more interesting. The presence of KVP is a considerable plus.
    1. opus
      opus 22 October 2017 00: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: exo
      In my unprofessional look: 1174 "Ivan Rogov", or rather his later corps, were more interesting.

      good

      Alexander Nikolaev
      The issue of rebuilding and returning to the Navy
      Mitrofan Moskalenko
      The issue of rebuilding and returning to the Navy

      a lot of things we have not done so
      1. exo
        exo 22 October 2017 11: 29 New
        +2
        Well, by the standards of amphibious assault ships, they were completely new. Mediocre ruined. Sorry, of course.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 October 2017 13: 17 New
    0
    Damn, finally the final test.
    During the construction, how much they redid it ...
    I really hope so. what further such ships will go in series.
  17. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 22 October 2017 18: 53 New
    0
    If only they were shy .... write "newest"
  18. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 23 October 2017 20: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: Gritsa
    all the oil the Americans grabbed themselves. So you can curtail - the operation was drowned.

    So, it turns out, we went there for oil?