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The failed operation of the Egyptian security forces in El Wahat. More 50 dead

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In Egypt, there were armed clashes of security forces with representatives of terrorist gangs. It is reported that the Egyptian police conducted the operation, during which the terrorist cell was supposed to be rendered harmless. The operation was launched in a desert area called El Wahat. It is about 130 km from the capital of the country - Cairo. Egyptian security officials reported that cell militants were involved in the terrorist attacks on Cairo.


As soon as the first detachments of the siloviki appeared in the specified area, heavy fire was opened at them from the side of the terrorists. One of the Egyptian officers said that, in all likelihood, the terrorists had been notified in advance about the operation of the Egyptian police forces being prepared against them.

The failed operation of the Egyptian security forces in El Wahat. More 50 dead


Already in the first few minutes of the battle, the Egyptian police officers were killed before 20.

The shelling was carried out from several directions. Not only small arms were used, but also RPGs and mortars.

Following several hours of battle, the Egyptian security forces lost at least 54 people killed and more than a hundred wounded. In this case, the losses of terrorists are significantly lower - up to 30 killed.

At one of the stages of the counterterrorist operation, the planes of the Egyptian Air Force were involved. According to some reports, the operation continues. The number of casualties on both sides is growing. The situation is complicated by the fact that the militants use an extensive network of underground passages, getting the opportunity to attack the Egyptian units, leaving them to the rear.

We can already say that the operation as a whole is a failure. First, it was not properly prepared, which led to a large number of casualties among the security forces. Secondly, the channels for obtaining intelligence information by terrorists were not blocked.
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  1. hrych
    hrych 21 October 2017 07: 55
    +6
    Well, it will be a lesson and traitors need to be identified.
    1. Komsomol
      Komsomol 21 October 2017 08: 05
      +5
      hi Yes, in any way, they passed their own ... am
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 21 October 2017 08: 23
        18
        Well, who else wants to relax in Egypt?
        1. Komsomol
          Komsomol 21 October 2017 08: 28
          24
          good Yes, we have anybody who wants DB there, and the Children will still be dragged there ...
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 21 October 2017 08: 43
            +9
            Quote: Komsomol
            Yes, we have anybody who wants DB there, and the Children are still dragged along with them ..

            we have DB post nonsense, the whole Internet is replete with tours to the Caucasus and not only to Chechnya, but also Dagestan and Kabardino-Balkaria and Ingushetia ..... according to your logic, there is simply the safest place on the planet .... DB. Lavrov
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              1. SERGE ANT
                SERGE ANT 21 October 2017 09: 01
                +6
                good Bashkiria - !!!!!! hi drinks
              2. Burbon
                Burbon 21 October 2017 09: 19
                +2
                Quote: By itself
                We are resting on a stone lately

                well, that’s understandable, because - DB “Lavrov” - really can’t earn money, so the hawthorn is whipping 3 km from the house
            2. Krabik
              Krabik 21 October 2017 11: 19
              +4
              At least in Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria it is much calmer.

              In addition, this is the territory of the Russian Federation, which also needs to be developed and the places there are very good.

              Of course in Egypt everything is licked to a shine for relaxation, but you also need to show a little bit of patriotism to your country!
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 22 October 2017 07: 02
                +2
                It is possible and calmer in Chechnya, there Kadyrov rules everything, but on the account of Dagestan and Ingushetia, I would argue ... very turbulent regions, they introduce a stable regime once a month ...
                1. Krabik
                  Krabik 22 October 2017 10: 57
                  0
                  Let me remind you in Egypt that a plane was shot down with our tourists.
                  Thug arranged a massacre with a knife on the beach.

                  And this is not counting that there is fighting ...
                  1. S-kerrigan
                    S-kerrigan 23 October 2017 08: 00
                    0
                    Let me remind you in Egypt that a plane was shot down with our tourists.

                    Let me remind you - they blew up, not shot down! These are different actions.
            3. igorka357
              igorka357 22 October 2017 07: 00
              +1
              And there are many who want to go to Chechnya or Dagestan ... I don’t think so!
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 21 October 2017 08: 33
          15
          Thrall
          Well, who else wants to relax in Egypt?
          And this is our fun. Go to a country where there is a civil war, natural disasters, epidemics, etc. It is also possible to bring children there. And no matter what, rest there wassat fool But if you get into any binding. Then you yell at the whole world. Help!!! In general, it is time to introduce personal responsibility in the event of force majeure in countries where normal people do not go.
          1. Komsomol
            Komsomol 21 October 2017 08: 48
            +6
            good Exactly, Seryog !!! Let them rake ourselves later. We don’t go to such places ourselves, and we won’t let Rodnaya, and NONE of OURs are torn, no fools ... hi
          2. dauria
            dauria 21 October 2017 08: 52
            +7
            In general, it is time to introduce personal responsibility in the event of force majeure


            And who is stopping the state from providing assistance "on credit"? It’s even funny - inside the country, bankers “help” to study, be treated, housing and even a funeral at a percentage. laughing
            And here - help for nothing. No, brothers. Under the USSR, if there was an official warning not to go fishing on ice, then even the "saved" forcibly paid part of the costs. wassat
          3. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 12
            +5
            Right now, my two youngest children have some kind of strange infection, which, according to rumors, was dragged from Turkey. Behind the scenes, an epidemic is going on in Minsk.
          4. NIKNN
            NIKNN 21 October 2017 11: 09
            +4
            Quote: Observer2014
            And this is our fun. Go to a country where there is a civil war, natural disasters, epidemics, etc. Even drag children there. And no matter what, rest there. But if you get into any binding. Then yell at the whole world. Help!!!

            Well, he came from there (not only as a vacation), ".. the head is tied, blood is on the sleeve .." The image is what for a whole year does not look under your feet (head with its chin in the sky) What image, the hero is all .. ., at least take beer out of turn ...
          5. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 October 2017 20: 25
            0
            The instructions of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation should be published with a list of countries banned from visiting
        3. Burbon
          Burbon 21 October 2017 08: 38
          +5
          Quote: Thrall
          Well, who else wants to relax in Egypt?

          I .... and I’ll definitely go there - there diving is just crazy
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 09: 31
            +6
            Quote: Burbon
            Quote: Thrall
            Well, who else wants to relax in Egypt?

            I .... and I’ll definitely go there - there diving is just crazy

            I will wait for you bourbon ... also invite Makarevich!

            You will know me from a thousand ..! wassat
            1. Burbon
              Burbon 21 October 2017 10: 00
              +3
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              I'll be waiting for you bourbon

              me how to understand this? .... like love? fool
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              Invite Makarevich too!

              and what's this? he is your root, here you are with him and hang out
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              You will know me from a thousand ..!

              Of course I know, only after that you will have to go to sea like Phelps, otherwise you yourself understand what will happen negative angry
              1. DEPARTMENT
                DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 10: 37
                +2
                Quote: Burbon
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                I'll be waiting for you bourbon

                me how to understand this? .... like love?

                ha ha ha ... Bourbon is already a Freudian reservation! laughing
                You see from these it turns out ..? negative
                1. Burbon
                  Burbon 21 October 2017 12: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  You see from these it turns out ..?

                  so are you waiting for me .... conclusion? - you are love abundant ..... give you a phone or write an address, so that your blue dream of meeting me comes true?
                  1. DEPARTMENT
                    DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 13: 46
                    0
                    Bourbon, you are in vain angry ..!
                    Egyptian guys, they can just bomb the coastal sea .. So Makarevich is still invited ... (we’ll agree on time ..)
                    1. Burbon
                      Burbon 21 October 2017 14: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      Bourbon, you're angry for nothing.

                      ? .... angry? don’t you know who it is a sin to be offended in Russia?
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      Egyptian guys just can bomb the coastal sea.
                      fool can also shoot through the clouds tirelessly fool you worry more in your trench for your fifth point
                      Well, about Makar - your sidekick ... hmm ... why are you wooing me? tired of yourself?
          2. 1vlad19
            1vlad19 21 October 2017 10: 05
            +2
            Quote: Burbon
            there diving is just crazy

            Come to us, in the Far East, it’s also not bad to have a good time. Hedgehogs caught, fresh flounder fried, no sharks, sea and sand.
            1. Burbon
              Burbon 21 October 2017 10: 22
              +1
              Quote: 1vlad19
              Come to us in the Far East

              really want ..... but the flight as in Chicago ((
              Quote: 1vlad19
              Hedgehogs, fresh flounder to fry,

              Do not tempt me .... and so I dream about it ....
              Quote: 1vlad19
              no sharks

              there are 6 species ... and among them 3 species of those who are afraid of nuno)) .... the main thing is not to run into white, like that aunt who bit off her foot 2 years ago - it was white ((but as they say they’re afraid of sharks Do not get into the hydraulic))
              1. 1vlad19
                1vlad19 21 October 2017 10: 41
                +1
                Quote: Burbon
                and among them there are 3 types of those whom Nuno is afraid of))

                C'mon, bit one, over 25 years, swam from the Sea of ​​Japan. And the prices, 13 thousand from Moscow to Vladivostok, True, the cost of living is expensive, a house in the bay is about 3 per day.
                1. Burbon
                  Burbon 21 October 2017 12: 28
                  0
                  Quote: 1vlad19
                  C'mon, bit one, over 25 years, swam from the Sea of ​​Japan

                  there are really 6 species of sharks ..... but in red there are 15 species))) ...... I will definitely come to Vladik both to Kamchatka and the Kuriles-Sokhalin ... here we will gather a company of 3-4 people and let’s wave, but the flight is already 35-55 thousand .... for one ...
                  1. 1vlad19
                    1vlad19 21 October 2017 15: 02
                    0
                    Decide, Kamchatka, Sakhalin or the islands. I advise the Khabarovsk Territory, the Shantar Islands. The flight to Mi-8 is not very expensive there. And the nature there is super.
                    1. Burbon
                      Burbon 21 October 2017 16: 16
                      0
                      Quote: 1vlad19
                      Decide, Kamchatka, Sakhalin or the islands.

                      I want to go there everywhere .... I hope to bring everything to life
                      1. 1vlad19
                        1vlad19 22 October 2017 08: 59
                        +1
                        I flew to Shantary on a "white" helicopter, watched, shot. The nature there is wonderful, whales in the sea.
          3. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 21 October 2017 10: 39
            +1
            Quote: Burbon
            I .... and I’ll definitely go there - there diving is just crazy

            I agree. Demolishes the tower from the 1st time.
        4. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 10
          +3
          But still, the best of the seas on which I was - Red!
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 21 October 2017 09: 22
            +4
            Quote: Roma-1977
            But still, the best of the seas on which I was - Red!

            believe me, the Laptev sea is no worse - just how cold it is laughing
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 21 October 2017 09: 41
              +4
              In fact, what exactly is it if a person has a desire to visit the Red Sea? I haven't been there since 2011, really. But I know fans who fly there through third countries for diving. Ukrainians fly there without restrictions and recommendations from various structures. It’s better to talk about something else. That under the pretext of the desire on the part of the Russian Federation to return its tourists to Egypt, to deploy its naval and air bases, for quick joint response to threats to Russian citizens. Better yet, in the Sinai and on the Mediterranean coast.
          2. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 21 October 2017 10: 33
            +2
            Quote: Roma-1977
            But still, the best of the seas on which I was - Red!

            I support 100%. It is unfortunate that such crap is happening with Egypt.
        5. Photon
          Photon 22 October 2017 21: 58
          0
          I'm in Dahab right now. Resting here is good. Security controls have become much stricter. Although for us, Russians, control is much milder.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 21 October 2017 09: 05
        +1
        I think they handed over and sold.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 16
          +2
          One does not exclude the other. Sympathetic to pan-Islamic sentiment received money for important information. This is normal. Do not forget that after the Egyptian Maidan, the Egyptians voted for the Brothers of Muslims, and the current guarantor has already overthrown them and transplanted them as if illegally. That is, ISIS has support among the people.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 21 October 2017 10: 41
            +3
            Quote: Roma-1977
            That is, ISIS has support among the people.

            And do we have great support among Gorbachev and Yeltsin?
            It's simple, the "Brothers" came to power under populist slogans that they were not able to fulfill, and were not going to special. The people went through "intoxication with revolution", he looked around and was horrified. Therefore, when the army decided to tame the "Brothers", the narot did not particularly hinder.
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 21 October 2017 11: 50
              +4
              I was in Hurghada when "behind the neighboring fence" Gaddafi was killed. From the conversations with the locals, it seemed that the events in Libya had a sobering effect on them, and they needed a leader like Putin. With the great respect of the Egyptians for the army, As-Sisi received popular support automatically. The abundance of military posts on the roads and the presence of the MiG-21 (or J-7) in caponiers at the Hurghada airport drew attention then.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 21 October 2017 08: 08
      +7
      When did these Arabs go according to plan? Time for prayers has come, they will drop everything.
      Quote: hrych
      Well, it will be a lesson and traitors need to be identified.
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 21 October 2017 08: 50
        +6
        A shameful page in the history of the Egyptian security forces, written in blood ...
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 17
          +5
          To bear losses and suffer defeats is not a shame. "The dead do not shame." Surrendering without resistance is a shame.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 21 October 2017 09: 21
            +5
            I did not mean losses, but "draining" my own.
            1. Roma 1977
              Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 36
              +2
              The element of civil war. "Own" are different.
        2. Lord
          Lord 21 October 2017 13: 01
          +1
          Quote: Jedi
          A shameful page in the history of the Egyptian security forces, written in blood ...

          Not the first and not the last. Alas, but a fact.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 21 October 2017 13: 22
            +5
            I do not argue, and not only in Egypt. Thirst for thirty pieces of silver is difficult to overcome. But - it is possible.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 21 October 2017 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        When did these Arabs go according to plan? Time for prayers has come, they will drop everything.

        Except trade.
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 21 October 2017 07: 55
    +5
    Some were preparing a "secret" operation, while others were preparing for defense. How familiar this all is.
    1. The black
      The black 21 October 2017 08: 01
      +6
      "Israeli Defense Forces soldier (IDF) Nomi Golan alone confronted a crowd of ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem." ... this lass to them instructor ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 21 October 2017 08: 22
        +5
        Yes, the rickets bukhova woman drove the whole head off, or they they her. The goners hindered the passage. It’s already direct to her instructors, well, if only for lithrobole wassatWell, there, obviously, the police are clearly watching the behavior of this shobla, there was a picket .. In short, there was no threat to anyone laughing
        1. The black
          The black 21 October 2017 08: 28
          +8
          Why is it bukhaya? ... quite adequate ... provides travel, does its job ... tries to restrain itself despite offensive shouts at her ...
          1. hrych
            hrych 21 October 2017 08: 34
            +5
            First of all, who told you that she is from the IDF. Her boyfriend's jacket? For sleeves to the toes. wassat We went to hang out, and then pacimons wassatMoreover, the Hasidim behaved peacefully, would trample a drunken fool if the will.
            1. The black
              The black 21 October 2017 08: 57
              +3
              Quote: hrych
              First of all, who told you that she is from the IDF. Her boyfriend's jacket? For sleeves to the toes. wassat We went to hang out, and then pacimons wassatMoreover, the Hasidim behaved peacefully, would trample a drunken fool if the will.

              It turns out that she also took off her pants and berets from a guy? wink ..... she is a serviceman, hence their indecision. For attacking a soldier in Israel, it’s bad to get a bullet between your eyes ... right on the street ...
              1. hrych
                hrych 21 October 2017 09: 04
                0
                You know, This fact of the argument is not worth it. Find her, call Sensei, learn all the tricks (including techniques from the Kamasutrawassat) how to drive Hasidim wassat and teach us after drinks
                P.S. The jacket is not her unique, even if the tzahalka. Those. her boyfriend is a coward, he didn’t even get out of the car wassat and you worry for some reason. I was afraid more for iPhone wassat
                1. The black
                  The black 21 October 2017 09: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: hrych
                  Those. her boyfriend is a coward, he didn’t even get out of the car

                  but why did you decide that her boyfriend was in the car? wink
                  I was afraid more for iPhone
                  And I thought for the Hasidim wassat
            2. APASUS
              APASUS 21 October 2017 09: 18
              +2
              Quote: hrych
              First of all, who told you that she is from the IDF.

              At least from the fact that it is written in the explanation to the video
              Israeli Defense Forces soldier (IDF) Nomi Golan alone confronted a crowd of ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem. Video posted by Haaretz. Believers took to the streets in protest against the arrest of two young Jews for refusing to serve in the army. The Golan tried to control the movement and disperse the crowd in order to allow the car to pass. The demonstrators began to insult the soldier, calling her “whore” and “shiksa” (a rude curse indicating a non-Jewish woman), but received a worthy rebuff. Female Israeli Soldier Fends Off ultra-Orthodox Protesters

              One should ask comrades from Israel, what is the attitude of Orthodox people to women military personnel everywhere in the country, or did they fool a little about that?
            3. Beitar
              Beitar 21 October 2017 09: 42
              +3
              Quote: hrych
              First of all, who told you that she is with the IDF

              She is a soldier.
              Quote: hrych
              Her boyfriend's jacket? For sleeves to the toes.

              No, this is not even a tribute to fashion, I also took a couple of sizes larger so that you could warm up if desired.
              Quote: hrych
              We went to hang out, and then pacimons

              Hang out in shape?
              Quote: hrych
              Moreover, the Hasidim behaved peacefully, would trample a drunken fool if the will.

              Looking at what to run into. Somewhere it’s just that they’ll spit, they spit it, but somewhere else they can insert normal lyuley.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 21 October 2017 10: 45
                +2
                Quote: Beitar
                Hang out in shape?

                Et yes. Israeli "army ladies" prefer to hang out not in uniform 8)))
                1. Beitar
                  Beitar 21 October 2017 10: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  Et yes. Israeli "army ladies" prefer to hang out not in uniform 8)))

                  Shovels, do not disappoint))) Tusyat - at night, during the day-walk. smile
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 21 October 2017 10: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Beitar
                    They are choking - at night, during the day - walking.

                    I don’t know, maybe this is the case with you. Our people are more open to fun. At the time of day, attention is not particularly paying.
                    1. Beitar
                      Beitar 21 October 2017 10: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: Spade
                      Our people are more open to fun. At the time of day, attention is not particularly paying.

                      It until plump at +40 in the shade wink
                      https://russia.tv/video/show/brand_id/57463/episo
                      de_id / 1060049 / video_id / 1071837 /
                      https://russia.tv/video/show/brand_id/57463/episo
                      de_id / 1080645 / video_id / 1074192 /
                      Look at your leisure!
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 October 2017 11: 08
                        +5
                        Yes, even +50
                        Here I remember my cadets. Sunday, in the morning, a "sports festival" in the form of a five or ten of a "paramilitary run". In the dismissal turns out to go to dinner.
                        The question is, when did I need to start to "hang out" if I need to be in the school to rise. And in this state, in order to withstand charging, from which it is not an option to mow. Because Monday is a commander’s day, and her battalion commander spends.
                      2. APASUS
                        APASUS 21 October 2017 15: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Beitar
                        https://russia.tv/video/show/brand_id/57463/episo
                        de_id / 1060049 / video_id / 1071837 /
                        https://russia.tv/video/show/brand_id/57463/episo
                        de_id / 1080645 / video_id / 1074192 /

                        Cognitively, a little unusual behavior
            4. Krabik
              Krabik 21 October 2017 11: 38
              +1
              Such a beauty would hardly be smart enough to touch anyone, he himself would then get his own;)
      2. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 23
        +3
        The representative of the Jewish state, who knows that the law is on her side. And the Hasidim know this, so the case is complete without murder. But in the Arab quarter, in such situations, you need a bulletproof vest, a machine gun and a couple of strong guys with an armored SUV and the right to shoot to kill first.
      3. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 10: 30
        +3
        Quote: Black
        "Israeli Defense Forces soldier (IDF) Nomi Golan alone confronted a crowd of ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem." ... this lass to them instructor ...

        I would have taken such a guard .. Good damn ..! good
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 21 October 2017 11: 39
          +1
          Hasidim were satisfied%)
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 12: 12
            +1
            Quote: Krabik
            Hasidim were satisfied%)

            With crumpled eggs .. hehe she kicks well!
      4. not main
        not main 21 October 2017 21: 19
        0
        Quote: Black
        Israel Defense Forces soldier (IDF) Nomi Golan alone confronted a crowd of ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem. "

        So these are orthodox! And if the Arabs ???
  3. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 21 October 2017 07: 55
    +2
    Not good. We’ll have to, hike, and connect Comrade Wagner there.
    1. Karaul73
      Karaul73 21 October 2017 08: 39
      +1
      Yeah. And be the gag in every barrel.
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 26
        +3
        This work. "We were in Paris and we were in Berlin, the legends tell us what we were. We corrected the mistakes of others, we were in Afghanistan, we were on Shipka." (c) Yegor Letov, The Red March.
    2. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 12: 17
      +1
      Quote: Roma-1977
      Not good. We’ll have to, hike, and connect Comrade Wagner there.

      Wagner is needed in Ukraine ..And there they’ll sort it out on their own ... Egypt has always been .Different and were not worth substituting for them! soldier
  4. DEPARTMENT
    DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 07: 56
    +4
    One of the Egyptian officers said that, in all likelihood, the terrorists had been notified in advance of the Egyptian police forces' forthcoming operation against them.

    As were gouging, and remained .. Not surprised.!
    1. victorsh
      victorsh 21 October 2017 08: 26
      +5
      But during the fighting in Chechnya we did not have traitors? One Berezovsky with the "ransom" of prisoners is worth something.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 09: 34
        +1
        Quote: victorsh
        But during the fighting in Chechnya we did not have traitors? One Berezovsky with the "ransom" of prisoners is worth something.

        The Egyptian Arabs are something ... They are up to Chechnya, like walking to the moon!
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 21 October 2017 07: 57
    10
    Yeah. the capture was ambushed. apparently for a long time they will still be cleaning their ranks in order to remove the “moles” and “rats”. sorry for the Egyptians purely humanly. Yes, and try to recover such losses_ to weed out and train half a hundred specialists (even police officers) the task is not easy.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 21 October 2017 11: 25
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      Yeah. the capture was ambushed. apparently for a long time they will still be cleaning their ranks in order to remove the “moles” and “rats”. sorry for the Egyptians purely humanly. Yes, and try to recover such losses_ to weed out and train half a hundred specialists (even police officers) the task is not easy.

      Here it was necessary to initially evaluate the enemy’s forces and means, and I think the arrogance that they would be frightened ..., like Hands came to the top, I shoot without falsification, I raised my eyebrows and raised all my hands ..., but no, it’s like .. .
      Condolences to the families of the deceased, wounded recovery. Fulfilled their duty.
  6. Alexander War
    Alexander War 21 October 2017 08: 00
    +4
    Where is aerial reconnaissance, where is the support of turntables!
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 21 October 2017 09: 44
      +2
      Quote: Alexander War
      Where is aerial reconnaissance, where is the support of turntables!

      So these are cops, not CSKA.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 October 2017 10: 47
        +1
        So what?
        Just experience in carrying out such operations near-zero. Like ours in the first Chechen one.
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          1. Krabik
            Krabik 21 October 2017 11: 43
            0
            The USSR fought all its existence and the ush certainly had all the specialists and experience to the point.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 21 October 2017 12: 56
              +2
              Is it?
              We got it and managed to lose right there
              Initially, there was successful experience in combating such threats after the Second World War, in the Baltic states and in Western Ukraine. Forgotten.
              Then partly successful experience in Afghanistan. But he also managed to quickly forget that the conflicts of the times of the "Catastrophe" in the Caucasus, Transcaucasia and Central Asia were fully demonstrated.

              But now, the fight against terror has been ongoing continuously since the beginning of the first Chechen war.
              On the whole, successful, but realistically, the experience of this kind of struggle is preserved only among units continuously operating in this field. The rest, again, have obvious failures, connected either with the loss of experience, or with complacency.
              You can recall the attack on the field camp of the Moscow Region in Dagestan, or the most recent attack on the military operations of the military unit of the VV-Schnikov / Rosguard
  7. Eurodav
    Eurodav 21 October 2017 08: 02
    +7
    A squad of Egyptologists Wagner to help them! Not a cop this thing! Actually a police officer, of course, but with ter groupings this will not work!
  8. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 October 2017 08: 03
    +2
    No one learns from the mistakes of others.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 21 October 2017 08: 04
    +5
    A competently organized setup ... relaxed, received.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 October 2017 08: 16
    +3
    One gets the impression that senior officers of the Egyptian army and the police buy their ranks, and do not get moving through the service, gaining experience and studying military affairs.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 27
      +1
      There is one. And not only in Egypt, unfortunately.
  11. corporal
    corporal 21 October 2017 08: 18
    +3
    in all likelihood, the terrorists were notified in advance of an Egyptian police force operation against them.

    As always "leaked" request . The disease of many Ministry of Internal Affairs. sad
  12. Eurodav
    Eurodav 21 October 2017 08: 19
    +2
    Quote: Black
    "Israeli Defense Forces soldier (IDF) Nomi Golan alone confronted a crowd of ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem." ... this lass to them instructor ...

    Something stubborn monster! Yes, it does not hurt the orthodox and want to stick a Zionist ...
    1. The black
      The black 21 October 2017 08: 26
      +3
      Yes, it does not hurt the orthodox and want to stick a Zionist ..
      They would be glad, but very afraid. laughing She is a soldier. But an attack on a soldier in Israel is a serious crime. Any soldier passing by can organize a bullet in the forehead without talking ...... but all this does not beg her courage, which she shows by following the order .... but the orthodox are like a pack hyenas cautiously attacking a lioness .... laughing
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 October 2017 08: 46
        +4
        Quote: Black
        but the Orthodox look like a bunch of hyenas, cautiously attacking a lioness ..

        Orthodox women are not something that you can’t touch, but you can’t go alone in the elevator with her. Here the "heroes" only shout and spit. Although they could throw stones at her. And the girl is well done. she could just crush them a little on her car, and she handed them a pendele. It is a pity that not much.
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 21 October 2017 10: 34
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          And the girl is well done. she could just crush them a little on her car, and she handed them a pendele. It’s a pity that not much

          Well done and aiming with the kick of the foot is always between the legs and very accurately ... So they parted!
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 21 October 2017 08: 26
    +2
    Quote: Alexander War
    Where is aerial reconnaissance, where is the support of turntables!

    Yeah ... And fleet support! Have you seen enough militants? During police operations, do we also have the whole sky in turntables and dryers? It's all beautiful in Hollywood, but in life ... It would be a military operation, it would be different, and so ... There is nothing worse than moles!
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 21 October 2017 08: 50
      +2
      They bought Ka-52, let them practice! What does the fleet support have to do with it ?, they’re not pickpockets, they’re going to catch it!
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 21 October 2017 08: 29
    0
    Quote: Strashila
    A competently organized setup ... relaxed, received.

    The manuals of the militants are the same ... In Chechnya, how much was like that! The Egyptians are not at all up to the mark ...
  15. Machete
    Machete 21 October 2017 08: 30
    +1
    But what, the best army in the region could not be involved?
    Why ruin the police?
    Especially in the desert, where you can use any kind of weapon.
  16. Lester7777
    Lester7777 21 October 2017 08: 36
    0
    For half a century, nothing has changed. The warriors of the Egyptians are still those ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 October 2017 08: 47
      +3
      Quote: Lester7777
      For half a century, nothing has changed. The warriors of the Egyptians are still those ...

      Like almost all Arabs. By number, not skill.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 21 October 2017 09: 14
        +2
        And here is the question. Again, look at the Arab conquest - the first Caliphate. There was almost always a parity of forces, or the Caliphate had less. And they beat. The great empires beat, the Sassanids (Iran), Byzantium, the victors of Rome were generally taken out in the same breath. And the Arabs scared the naughty kids all over the world.

        Again the war of Salah ad-Din. There the Arabs showed themselves quite worthy.
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 October 2017 09: 34
          +2
          Quote: donavi49
          And here is the question. Again, look at the Arab conquest - the first Caliphate. There was almost always a parity of forces, or the Caliphate had less. And they beat. The great empires beat, the Sassanids (Iran), Byzantium, the victors of Rome were generally taken out in the same breath. And the Arabs scared the naughty kids all over the world.

          Again the war of Salah ad-Din. There the Arabs showed themselves quite worthy.

          1. Those Arabs and current Arabs are not the same thing. Current Arabs are not bold. However, like the Persians.
          2. Not all Arabs are cowards and mediocrity. The Arab Legion fought very worthy. IMHO the teachers there were others.

          Quote: Black
          Nevertheless they try to touch (hit)

          1. For me, she had to crush their Mazda.
          2. Orthodox are very anthropologically interesting. Hit this dos soldier and his future in the community will not be sweet. For example, two dosov spat on the monument (not the grave) of Rabin at the place of his murder. They were caught. Despite the fact that in their community they hate Rabin, spitting on monuments is a taboo. As a result, no one wants to marry these two morons. They are "tagged."
  17. The black
    The black 21 October 2017 08: 51
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Orthodox women are not something that you can’t touch, but you can’t go alone in the elevator with her
    Well, maybe not. I'm not orthodox and not even Jewish smile
    Nevertheless they try to touch (hit)
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 21 October 2017 09: 34
      0
      According to the Torah, if they give you a pundel, then you give a pundel in return. The theological contradiction between “giving the same thing” and the prohibition of touching a woman, these experts who were competent in the matter, decided in favor of the first.
  18. nikvic46
    nikvic46 21 October 2017 09: 16
    0
    Quote: victorsh
    But during the fighting in Chechnya we did not have traitors? One Berezovsky with the "ransom" of prisoners is worth something.

    You know a lot about betrayal. Read the "Afghans" who fought in Chechnya. It was the most inept war from the side.
    Russian military command.
  19. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 October 2017 09: 26
    0
    As soon as the first detachments of the security forces appeared in the indicated area, heavy fire was launched from them by terrorists.

    ... leaked their own gangs, let the counterintelligence dig ... bully
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  21. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 October 2017 11: 16
    +3
    But why immediately betrayal ?! What do they want to get to the terrorist base unnoticed ?! Yes, the terrorists have their own intelligence for anyone - for example, just civilians who could just call and warn about the nomination of a large group of special forces and the army, and just the observation posts of the terrorists could find them, and then a classic ambush, shooting on the march, if they were deployed in battle formations, how would they immediately lose a platoon of fighters in a few minutes ?! No way ... And what about the technique? Why no data? Maybe it’s just because there was no serious cover either ?! Thought now we’ll come scare everyone with hammers and new camouflage and everyone will give up? And on the other hand, they were experienced people and didn’t want to give up at all, and they knew what to do in case of an attack ...

    That's why I think and will always advocate that any military equipment transporting people (like armored Urals and Kamaz) or transporting and supporting an attack (like BMP and armored personnel carriers) should ideally have both DZ and KAZ, well, in the economy variant would DZ (we have options for DZ which is placed on lightly armored vehicles) ... Fighters should have a chance to at least turn around and take up defense in the event of an attack from an ambush or just in battle ... BMP without DZ lives until the first ATGM hit, it’s no good ... Fighters should have a chance to survive even if they get anti-tank ammunition according to the technique ...
  22. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 21 October 2017 17: 42
    0
    There is a version that everything was so "planned" - "the east is a delicate matter" !!!