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Damaged Israeli F-35 - the work of the Syrian air defense?

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It seems that during the recent visit of the Russian Minister of Defense - Sergei Shoigu - the demonstration by Israel of the force turned out to be absolutely disastrous.


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  1. svp67
    svp67 20 October 2017 18: 50
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    Damaged Israeli F-35: Syrian air defense work or bird collision?
    But the idea that the bird was sent to the Syrian air defense did not occur to anyone?
    1. Lord
      Lord 20 October 2017 21: 02
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      But the idea that the bird was sent to the Syrian air defense did not occur to anyone?

      What is it like for smoking?
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 October 2017 03: 47
        +4
        Quote: Lord
        What is it like for smoking?

        I have never smoked, so you probably know better ...
        1. Lord
          Lord 21 October 2017 11: 44
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          Quote: svp67
          I never smoked ...

          In this case, you need to write books. Such a vivid imagination is rare today, talent is lost. hi
          1. asr55
            asr55 21 October 2017 21: 12
            +4
            Books on the subject of science fiction are your part, dear. Just right for you - invisible, elusive and so on. , and all the heroes are mysters in cloaks and tights.
    2. Vanych
      Vanych 26 October 2017 15: 29
      +1
      and the Syrians s-200 disguised as a bird, so the Jews missed))
  2. Eurodav
    Eurodav 20 October 2017 18: 53
    +5
    Why do you really want to deprive the Professor and Co. of your sleep? Again, the characteristics of the Syrian war birds will be studied? The professor also threw off the technical characteristics of the crane, which is not clear ...
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 24 October 2017 17: 03
      +2
      Come on you! It’s a matter of minutes for our president to agree with the Siberian Cranes.
  3. gromoboj
    gromoboj 20 October 2017 19: 39
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    What else is a bird. The plane is invisible, so the bird did not notice =)
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 20 October 2017 21: 22
      +7
      Well, yes, yes ... Dad, give me a couple of those colored invisibles from the nightstand ...
      By the way, who knows, birds see what frequency spectrum?
      And they say, dogs, like, see everything black and white, cats see everything upside down. I’m always wondering - did these dogs personally tell everyone these dogs?
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 20 October 2017 22: 07
        +2
        Probably the S-200VE did see the invisibility. Our Israeli partners are in no hurry with the comments. probably waiting for what they say in Odessa on Privoz
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 21 October 2017 00: 36
        +6
        The human eye also perceives the image upside down. Didn’t they tell you at lessons?
      3. Lord
        Lord 21 October 2017 11: 53
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        Quote: Vlad.by
        And they say, dogs, like, see everything black and white, cats see everything upside down.

        These are all the stories of the last century. In fact, animals see colors, only with a shift in a certain part of the spectrum. Cats, for example, see colors more faded and shortsighted by human standards.
        As the cat sees (lower half).

        Quote: Vlad.by
        Did the dogs tell you everything personally?

        There is such a thing - computer modulation of the work of living cells, including the retina.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 11: 55
          +6
          Quote: Lord
          ... computer modulationEtc.

          Frequency, amplitude - I know. I even heard about the phase.
          But about the computer ... enlighten, if possible.
          And yet - where does the "living cell"?
          1. Lord
            Lord 21 October 2017 12: 44
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            But about the computer ... enlighten, if possible.
            And yet - where does the "living cell"?

            I applied the wrong term, rather it is a simulation. hi
            I explain:
            On a supercomputer, a virtual cell is literally going “by atom”, and its cycle simulation is “started”. When the average statistic is worked out, that is, a working virtual model, a more complex structure is assembled from them and a functioning simulation is again carried out. Etc.
            The method is very common in the field of cancer research for example.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 12: 48
              +6
              Quote: Lord
              I applied the wrong term, it’s rather a simulation

              Yes, I realized, it was a banter in its purest form.
              You can also say "simulation" ...
              PS: I almost ran into the ban by accident ... in the word "banter" instead of "t" I got a soft sign (they are nearby).
              Well at least I noticed on time laughing
              1. IL-18
                IL-18 21 October 2017 21: 39
                +2
                But it is not easier to study the structure of the eye. Just taking the physics textbook for the tenth grade and draw how the beam goes through the pupil, the lens to the cones with sticks in the aqueous humor inside the vitreous. And to count the number of cones with sticks by looking at their construction for sensitivity in a microscope (the simplest optical).
                1. Vlad.by
                  Vlad.by 21 October 2017 23: 58
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                  Thank you about the textbook, enlightened. I myself would never have guessed 40 years ago. Sorry, I asked a question about talking dogs. Or didn’t you see the familiar letters in the post?
                  Simulation, modeling is all a reflection of reality in our brains. And here is what the bird that bit the F-35 saw - that’s the question!
                  By the way, now enlighten how she caught up with him to bite?
      4. asr55
        asr55 21 October 2017 21: 17
        +3
        For Syrian birds, the radar in the decimeter range works. They explained to them that the f-35 is inconspicuous, but they do not care.
  4. aws4
    aws4 21 October 2017 02: 46
    +3
    trembling ... if the c200 rocket made a direct hit on the plane, and it doesn’t matter which plane the plane would crash and collapse ... do you know what the warhead of the rocket of this complex is? shorter Syrians lie ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 October 2017 03: 48
      +6
      Quote: aws4
      if the c200 rocket made a direct hit

      Why direct? Some fragment of it could get on the plane ...
      1. aws4
        aws4 21 October 2017 04: 19
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        it was said in the video
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 21 October 2017 04: 37
          +6
          Yes, with the S-200 averting eyes from secret affairs, Shoigu brought a special “nano” file, then the Jews tore off part of the paint from the plane and sold it to us, and the Americans came and painted again, because they have current paint (it is secret). We will study the new paint of the Americans and modify the S-500 .... laughing
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 07: 19
      +8
      Quote: aws4
      if the c200 rocket would commit direct hit on a plane

      This one You have already signed that in the air defense "no boom-boom."
      The rocket does not have the task of "getting on the plane." It is enough to work in a position and at a distance when the striking warhead elements (balls there ... rollers .. nails, nakraynyak) "cover" the target.
      Quote: aws4
      it was said in the video

      And on the fence there is still much that is written ...
      Quote: aws4
      in short, the Syrians are lying.

      That is absolutely not a fact. Rather, it seems to me, um, an attempt to evade reality, the Israeli version of the collision of a "penguin" with a bird.
      1. aws4
        aws4 22 October 2017 03: 29
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        I knew all this without you, you just didn’t open anything new for me .. and I took the phrase “direct hit” exactly as a plane entering the affected area of ​​the main unit at a favorable distance in which, in principle, more than one plane will not survive ... if the plane I also managed to come back and sit safely here we can only talk about the fact that he was hooked by a small number of striking elements and not about any direct hit of speech and can not be ... but on the account of what is written on the fence, you contradict yourself .. by your then it turns out that all that was said by both Arabs and Jews is an invention and in general there is no discussion ...
    3. opsmaster
      opsmaster 21 October 2017 11: 38
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      Go mate part smoke expert school .......
      1. aws4
        aws4 22 October 2017 03: 30
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        Listen, what are you rude ??? you smoke but something else ...
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 21 October 2017 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: aws4
      shorter Syrians lie ..

      Colleague, it seems you're right ...
      And that's why. The descent of the “flying log” with the PU occurs only after the target’s GOS is captured, or rather, the reflected signal from the “invisibility” ... Yes, the HB detonation occurred after receiving N pulses reflected from the target. And the rod that got into the * Penguin *, after undermining the warhead, would cut it like "God the tortoise" ...
      So, the Syrians are cunning about the downed Penguin.
      1. Khazarin
        Khazarin 23 October 2017 15: 23
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        So the Syrians didn’t seem to be talking about a penguin. They hinted at the damage to one of the violators.
    5. asr55
      asr55 21 October 2017 21: 25
      +1
      If a direct hit with a missile size of 11m, there would be nothing left of the f-35. But this rocket has 37 thousand balls of 9.5 mm and 7.8 mm in the warhead. Explosion is carried out on the command of an active radar fuse (angle of impact is approximately 60 ° to the axis of flight of the rocket, removal is several tens of meters) when the rocket passes in close proximity to the target. When the warhead is triggered, a cone-shaped GGE field is formed in the direction of flight with an inclination of approximately 60 ° from the longitudinal axis of the rocket. In the case of a large miss, the warhead is undermined at the end of a guided missile flight, due to the loss of onboard power.
      1. Khazarin
        Khazarin 23 October 2017 15: 27
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        Yeah, okay! But Pinya Gwyn, stood on the parking brake and waited for when the product from the mordor gets into the loins of the loins? Or this Pinya did some evolution in the air? Or maybe this airplane is still made of percale, well, or is the Dacron sculpted?
    6. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 22 October 2017 00: 07
      +2
      Have you heard about the anti-aircraft maneuver? And if you already know so clearly what the warhead of the 5V28E missile is, then its maneuverable capabilities should also be present. There is a chance to dodge it. It could well hook a little bit with the late operation of the PB. He could even fly to the base, and upon landing he could break his “vertebrae”. Or the pilot ejected near the airfield due to missed landing gear. But nobody will tell anyone about this. Here it is, the Syrian bird, the Syrian. And so, of course, the Syrians are lying ...
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 26 October 2017 18: 55
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        Honestly I have not heard about such a modification of the S-200 missile; 5v21 5v28 and 5v28n
  5. reminin
    reminin 21 October 2017 10: 16
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    According to the new (secret) specification of air defense systems manufactured in Russia, in Israel, missiles from the S-200 complex have the secret designation "Stork".
    Israelis never lie !!!
    In this connection, they said that the F-35 collided with two "Storks", which damaged the aircraft cover. Photo could not provide because this plane is not reflected in the pictures - it’s also “invisible”, but you cannot turn off “invisibility” - the plane is damaged.
    1. asr55
      asr55 21 October 2017 21: 29
      +1
      Israelis never lie !!!

      Yes, it's funny. Tomorrow I’ll have fun with my friend.
  6. Cynic
    Cynic 21 October 2017 12: 00
    +1
    Yes, everyone explained that it was a collision with a bird, though it’s rather strange, but if it was STEREH, then there’s nothing strange. Guilty is calculated at a time.
    Seriously, usually a bird falling into the air intake of an airplane engine can damage it, or even damage it. Immediately, falling into a silhouette, as it were ...
    Somehow they did not think up in Tsakhal an explanation of the causes of the emergency from the 35th.
    Yes, about the damage to the coating, but nothing that is paint, well, mastic, and is updated after each flight?
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 21 October 2017 18: 17
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      Well, yes, bird laughing , only the mattresses before this incident - spread out "our mego Fu-35 is protected from collision with birds" and even saw somewhere hanging out on the internet. So they there or an ostrich "knocked down" or "one of two" tongue . And here is the version that all the same "hooked" but "did not fall" - more believable. Again - well, stock them even with a swan (a large bird), well, even if he scratched something, he did NOT rip it off !! A small peeling of the coating will not make any difference - too small a size is proportional to the entire aircraft. They lie the Jews tongue
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 22 October 2017 00: 12
        +1
        You forgot about the claws on your paws. The swan clung to its claws - from the air pressure receiver and right up to the engine nozzle. And the furrows are so deep that even epoxy can not be glued.
        In short, under cancellation, alas!
  7. meriem1
    meriem1 21 October 2017 13: 25
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    Quote: Lord
    Quote: svp67
    I never smoked ...

    In this case, you need to write books. Such a vivid imagination is rare today, talent is lost. hi

    To whom to write a book, and to whom and so megalomania. The lord will be bored)))) The lord of what ???? Dust
  8. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 21 October 2017 15: 24
    -1
    The result is one. The battery is kirdyk, and all the planes returned to the airfield. Conclusion. Nefig in the news if screwed up in a real fight. That is, C200 could not oppose the penguin. Well done, the Jews do what is beneficial to them, and they smile at the shoigu. Like peace, friendship, chewing gum. I wonder how long the Russian airfield will last against Israeli strikes in which case. An hour or two?
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 21 October 2017 16: 04
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      Scene One Sochi:
      N. Offer a deal. We do not affect and even support your interests, you are doing a mirror image in response.
      Q. Why do we need this? What is the beauty?
      N. We will act without taking into account the opinions ... and we can substitute your bases and ground complexes. You may lose confidence.
      B. We will think.
      N. Just not for long.
      Scene two
      Lebanon-Masyaf. We returned to the original. Target locked. Good luck.
      Scene three
      Lebanon is somewhere in the suburbs of Damascus.
      There is a flare. They are leading us. The rocket has gone, we're leaving. Fuck ... how these storks got it.
      Commander of the second squadron. I allow it. We go to the answer. The goal ... Square C800-625.
      Scene four
      Eretz Israel
      N. How is the weather?
      Sh. It’s getting better.
      N. So let's talk about sizes.
      Sh. Not right away. We reviewed the offer. And yes, yes. We need to discuss the details.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 21 October 2017 18: 28
        +1
        In the case of the "rudeness" of the Jews on our bases - "if you spit on the Collective - the Collective will be erased, if the Collective will spit on you - you will drown.". Russia will lightly make the Judean desert the “ultimate well-done” desert. Izrail - xs what is in service there and whether IT can fly to the territory of Russia.
        Want to check it out? Nude nude, your Adolf Ielozovich already sold in the last century bully we brought him to suicide. repeat
    2. Evgeny Zhevlonenko
      Evgeny Zhevlonenko 23 October 2017 06: 17
      +1
      Well, judging by the satellite pictures, the battery is far from being a cord, four bombs on the entire battery? Do not tell, if I’m not mistaken, only the PU there is at least 6.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 23 October 2017 11: 31
        +1
        S-200 is a group of channels, not batteries. This is first.
        Even if one channel is disabled, the group is fully operational. This is the second.
        And thirdly, to disable one or even several launchers - this is not the destruction of the channel. To disable it, you need to get into the Russian Orthodox Church.
  9. Satanator
    Satanator 21 October 2017 22: 11
    +5
    it turns out that the c200 captured the penguin, the protection worked when the rocket approached, but not as good as we would like - a slightly downed plane returned to base, and the Syrians thought they were shot down by a direct hit, because they could not track the further movement of an inconspicuous object.
    and now some believe that they shot down, while others sculpt excuses about the birds ...
    1. Evgeny Zhevlonenko
      Evgeny Zhevlonenko 23 October 2017 06: 19
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      but the tanks also have a term “knocked out and destroyed”, these are not synonyms, “knocked out” means they caused damage that limited its functionality or use, albeit briefly ....
  10. coach colch
    coach colch 21 October 2017 23: 05
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    Quote: Lord
    Quote: svp67
    I never smoked ...

    In this case, you need to write books. Such a vivid imagination is rare today, talent is lost. hi

    Imagination ... it is at your State Department, and they smoke that not every drug addict will smoke ... yes
  11. Alexander Mage
    Alexander Mage 23 October 2017 10: 58
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    They were told "invisible", but they did not obey. And did not even ask. Hmm ...
  12. PARTIZAN MOJAKHEDOVICH
    PARTIZAN MOJAKHEDOVICH 23 October 2017 17: 41
    0
    Yeah ... and the earth is round
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 25 October 2017 08: 50
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      Flat, not up to date. You are the latest global trends.
  13. nafanal
    nafanal 24 October 2017 03: 52
    +3
    In fact, in the year 82, during the operation of the World Galelei, the Jews decided to liquidate Assad Sr. by an air strike at his residence. but they didn’t take into account one. The Soviet officers were behind the battery panels that covered Damascus. The attack ended predictably. Three of the six phantoms were shot down. One of them during emergency landing became rubbish.
  14. Pavlik Morozov
    Pavlik Morozov 25 October 2017 13: 06
    0
    Very interesting material) It is interesting how with the numbers of the speaker of the text, and reading in general ???? The cost of developing the F-35 is written 406 billion, pronounces four hundred and six million dollars, in the text goes October 500 reads September. It should be a shame, so unprofessional !!!