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"Condition" as a measure to combat corruption?

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In respect of the former governor of the Novosibirsk region a verdict of guilty was pronounced. To what extent it corresponds to the understanding of the “effective fight against corruption,” is a separate question.


The Central District Court of Novosibirsk considered the case of the ex-governor of the Novosibirsk region Vasily Yurchenko. In 2014, Yurchenko lost his position "due to loss of confidence." A criminal case of negligence was initiated against him, and then (after the cancellation of the decision by the prosecutor's office), about the abuse of office.

"Condition" as a measure to combat corruption?


During the investigation, it was established that Vasily Yurchenko caused damage to the treasury of the Novosibirsk region in the amount of more than 14 million rubles as a result of instructions to cancel the auction for the sale of land in the center of Novosibirsk.

Yurchenko was found guilty, and the court sentenced him to three years in prison. As a result, the punishment, as it turns out, turned out to be conditional.

Yurchenko himself did not admit his guilt, saying that the entire accusation "is based on assumptions and speculation."

It is worth noting that most criminal cases initiated under “corruption” articles against officials have recently ended with the introduction of sentences with conditional terms. In this case, the investigations themselves are delayed for years.
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  1. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 20 October 2017 14: 36 New
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    What can I say: SHAME! This "condition" is a spit in the face of us all, normal people. This untouchable caste will continue to fatten until there is a firm will to put them in a stall.
    1. forester
      forester 20 October 2017 14: 56 New
      +6
      Not to the stall, but to the wall
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 20 October 2017 14: 57 New
        0
        Quote: forester
        Not to the stall, but to the wall
        - And they’ll do it next.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 20 October 2017 14: 58 New
      +4
      The most striking thing is that at a recent rally the slogan “Freedom to Yurchenko” was piled up. The authorities must have listened. wassat
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      What can I say: SHAME! This "condition" is a spit in the face of us all, normal people. This untouchable caste will continue to fatten until there is a firm will to put them in a stall.
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 21 October 2017 04: 21 New
        +5
        Yes, it’s already clear that the 5th column is not Navalny, Ksyushad and Co., it’s so, a nearby group. The 5th column has long been sitting in the Kremlin and is called the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 October 2017 16: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      What can I say: SHAME! This "condition" is a spit in the face of us all, normal people. This untouchable caste will continue to fatten until there is a firm will to put them in a stall.

      Don’t shout so! belay Just think for yourself, all the cases with the governor's nomenclature that fell under trial have arisen based on the amount of half a billion rubles or more. And then some 14 million. More on the order for dismissal pulls than a crime of duty. Ulyukaev took 2 lyama of American rubles, which translates at the rate of 120 million full-weight domestic, and here ..... A muddy story. It is necessary to ventilate the topic of who, and what destinies the native was appointed to his post. I suppose the Moscow Varangian arrived ...
      1. l7yzo
        l7yzo 20 October 2017 17: 12 New
        +4
        Well, how is OboronService (Serdyukov and Vasilyeva) and us ex Minister Ulyukaev ?? I think it will be interesting to you. Do you remember 8 billion homes found in the military? And what do you think? Do you remember the Vostochny Cosmodrome (which is still under construction, although the type was reported that it was already handed over) and not payments ??? You won’t believe everything is the same there ... and so it can be endlessly ...
    4. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 21 October 2017 21: 08 New
      +2


      Who lives in Russia well.
  2. himRa
    himRa 20 October 2017 14: 37 New
    +5
    Competition ... it’s not easy to come to power
  3. Anarchist
    Anarchist 20 October 2017 14: 37 New
    21
    So then believe in our justice!
    14 million in rubles –With my salary of 70.000, I need to earn this money for 100 months ...
    Over 20.000 an average of 5 years gives ...
    1. stolz
      stolz 20 October 2017 14: 41 New
      +5
      It was not in vain that our ancestors said: the law, as you draw, wherever you send, it happened.
    2. True
      True 20 October 2017 17: 40 New
      +5
      200 months, more than 16 years. And do not eat, do not dress, do not get sick and live in a tent.
  4. 79807420129
    79807420129 20 October 2017 14: 39 New
    25
    Long live the Russian court, the most humane court in the world.
    Joseph Vissarionovich, the whole world spit.
    1. vadsonen
      vadsonen 20 October 2017 15: 36 New
      +7
      Joseph Vissarionovich, the whole world spit.

      The people do not agree with you - they continue to vote for edrosov / medveputov.
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 20 October 2017 18: 09 New
        14
        People just agree! I merge every vote for Zhirinovsky ...
  5. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 20 October 2017 14: 42 New
    +5
    These are all the consequences of the so-called liberalization of criminal law in the Russian Federation. Steal as much as possible and you will be beyond jurisdiction! am
  6. andre
    andre 20 October 2017 14: 44 New
    0
    Well, as I understand it, Novosibirsk will tell you why Yurchenko was actually incapacitated. I talked with him. Of course, maybe this is nonsense.
    https://chernovik.net/content/inye-smi/putin-uvol
    il-gubernatora-novosibirskoy-oblasti-uvolivshego-
    plemyannika-putina
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 20 October 2017 15: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: andre
      Well, as I understand it, Novosibirsk will tell you why Yurchenko was actually incapacitated. I talked with him. Of course, maybe this is nonsense.
      https://chernovik.net/content/inye-smi/putin-uvol
      il-gubernatora-novosibirskoy-oblasti-uvolivshego-
      plemyannika-putina

      what what what and what immediately not from the rain or the ear of Moscow to drag the material ??? lol lol lol
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 21 October 2017 16: 00 New
        +2
        Yes, on this link, and there is no tonic material. He, of course, is not the biggest bastard, everything is in moderation. As usual, the competition for holding a "business festival", which included anything (a rubber concept), was won by his family (daughter-in-law) for several years, and received huge money. All debates about rightfully-not rightfully led to nothing. Everything is at level 6 here. On the accusations of himself, he replied that he did not remember and could not remember everything that he had signed. The court does not consider this either as an excuse or as an accusation (I tried it myself. Tell the prosecutor: I don’t remember .. "You have the right"). They removed it well. “Vova! Thank you for Vasya” - the most popular Novosibirsk slogan of that time (in the sense - for its absence).
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 21 October 2017 18: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: Siberian
          Yes, on this link, and there is no tonic material. He, of course, is not the biggest bastard, everything is in moderation. As usual, the competition for holding a "business festival", which included anything (a rubber concept), was won by his family (daughter-in-law) for several years, and received huge money. All debates about rightfully-not rightfully led to nothing. Everything is at level 6 here. On the accusations of himself, he replied that he did not remember and could not remember everything that he had signed. The court does not consider this either as an excuse or as an accusation (I tried it myself. Tell the prosecutor: I don’t remember .. "You have the right"). They removed it well. “Vova! Thank you for Vasya” - the most popular Novosibirsk slogan of that time (in the sense - for its absence).

          Have you looked at what kind of resource this article is posted ??? wassat wassat wassat lol lol lol
  7. raid14
    raid14 20 October 2017 14: 47 New
    +8
    Hmm, now "ordinary citizens", "for the wrong crossing the street" and then give more.
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok 20 October 2017 15: 06 New
    +4
    “Precondition” as a measure against corruption?

    There is only one step left to the full legalization of corruption. What? It will be like in Germany with prostitutes. You buy a license, pay taxes, and steal legally. And with those who steal without a license they will act in all severity laughing wassat laughing
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 20 October 2017 15: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Normal ok
      “Precondition” as a measure against corruption?

      There is only one step left to the full legalization of corruption. What? It will be like in Germany with prostitutes. You buy a license, pay taxes, and steal legally. And with those who steal without a license they will act in all severity laughing wassat laughing

      rather like lobbying by the americans !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  9. Old military officer
    Old military officer 20 October 2017 15: 24 New
    +2
    Well, what's so surprising ?! It has long been said by our ancestors: "The raven will peck out her crow's eye."
  10. Stoler
    Stoler 20 October 2017 15: 41 New
    +8
    For that, we love to poke Ukraine face corruption request
  11. Glory1974
    Glory1974 20 October 2017 16: 08 New
    +3
    Vasily Yurchenko damaged the treasury of the Novosibirsk region in the amount of more than 14 million rubles

    Yurchenko was found guilty, and the court sentenced him to three years in prison. As a result, the punishment, as it turns out, turned out to be conditional.

    Smart guy after all. If he had stolen a bag of potatoes, they would have given 15 years. laughing
    1. ADmA_RUS
      ADmA_RUS 20 October 2017 16: 48 New
      0
      Can you give an example of a sentence when they gave 15 years for stealing a bag of potatoes? And most importantly. Is a potato bag an object of no value?
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 20 October 2017 16: 54 New
        +3
        Full of examples. The point is that under the USSR, the bias of the Criminal Code was on crimes against society. (OBHSS, a whole police department existed.) And under Russia, the bias became a crime ...... (well, not to mention Kvachkov and Khodarkovsky, in general, no bias. And under these conditions, for theft of property worth more than 3 000 rubles criminal proceedings are instituted followed by a guilty verdict for the term 2-3 of the year A. And in relation to other persons, for example, Serdyukov, or Adam (Minister of Atomic Industry), suspended sentences.
        1. ADmA_RUS
          ADmA_RUS 20 October 2017 18: 52 New
          +2
          Where is the 15 summer timeline for a bag of potatoes?
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 20 October 2017 21: 41 New
            +1
            Where is the 15 summer timeline for a bag of potatoes?

            In a court
            1. ADmA_RUS
              ADmA_RUS 22 October 2017 11: 10 New
              +1
              They are not here. For if you were in the subject, you knew that for many years after censoring personal information, court decisions are published in the public domain. And if you get into the Guarantor for an hour and correctly configure the search, you can get statistics on the number of court decisions on corruption cases. And be surprised, there are thousands of them and their number is growing. And people get not conditional terms, but quite real ones.
              1. Glory1974
                Glory1974 22 October 2017 17: 57 New
                +1
                I am not surprised that the number of corruption cases is growing. I say that real corrupt officials receive ridiculous sentences. Vasiliev and Serdyukov as an example. But Polonsky is a parody of justice in general: he hid for several years abroad, and was released in the courtroom due to the "expired statute of limitations." Aren't you funny?
                And ordinary people, for ridiculous things, get quite serious terms. You can google it.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 22 October 2017 21: 39 New
                  +4
                  Quote: glory1974
                  I am not surprised that the number of corruption cases is growing. I say that real corrupt officials receive ridiculous sentences. Vasiliev and Serdyukov as an example. But Polonsky is a parody of justice in general: he hid for several years abroad, and was released in the courtroom due to the "expired statute of limitations." Aren't you funny?
                  And ordinary people, for ridiculous things, get quite serious terms. You can google it.

                  But did they initiate a "corruption case" against Serdyukov ?? wassat wassat
                  1. Glory1974
                    Glory1974 22 October 2017 22: 02 New
                    0
                    but isn’t it? Sale of state property at low prices, + use of official position.
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 22 October 2017 22: 50 New
                      +4
                      Quote: glory1974
                      but isn’t it? Sale of state property at low prices, + use of official position.

                      what what what come on??? I remember how he neglected the current negligence !! wassat wassat this is far from a corruption crime !!!
                      1. Glory1974
                        Glory1974 23 October 2017 20: 27 New
                        0
                        I remember how he neglected the current negligence !!

                        Some generally believe that he is the lamb of God.
                        see post ADmA_RUS
                2. ADmA_RUS
                  ADmA_RUS 22 October 2017 23: 29 New
                  +1
                  1. Syrdikov is clean before the law.
                  2. Under capitalism, people are not equal in financial opportunities. It is elementary to hire the best lawyer, to conduct an independent examination, and will agree before the court with compensation for proven harm.
                  3. The wire system is formed by generations. This is not a year, and not two. The only way to speed up the artificial generational change. And again hello repression and mass executions. And in this meat grinder will get a lot of non-venerable.
                  4. In any system, its changes are important. The changes in the fight against corruption are positive.
                  5. You have the opportunity to personally participate in the fight against corruption, not by writing angry posts, but by conducting investigations, or judging yourself. But for this, most likely you will have to study, and then really work with a risk to the well-being of loved ones and your life. Not doing Then why the angry tirades?
                  1. Glory1974
                    Glory1974 23 October 2017 20: 26 New
                    0
                    1. Serdyukov roofing felts pardoned roofing felts amnestied, and maybe took advantage of your 2-th item. Therefore, its purity is doubtful.
                    2. I agree with that.
                    3. Maybe.
                    4. If there is movement, this is good. but I would like to know where. Maybe to the bottom? Although, according to the press, it’s really off the ground.
                    5. I personally participated.
  12. manne mann
    manne mann 20 October 2017 16: 24 New
    +3
    If this farce is a fight against corruption, then there is no sense in fighting it!
  13. asiat_61
    asiat_61 20 October 2017 16: 37 New
    +2
    Maybe someone remembers the theft in Gokhran. The diamonds were stolen for $ 180 million. The Americans found against the will of our organs. They gave the ghoul 14 years on probation.
  14. Elevator
    Elevator in the building 20 October 2017 16: 45 New
    +5
    Well, how do you like? "The Tsar-Father" after all considers similar only prank; the main thing is that they would not raise their hand to the holy, to "Power". But if some people, in some places put a plus sign, or maybe your repost, then then beware the criminal offspring ..!
    PS It’s not even funny anymore; you can get more money for kasplay than for corruption. Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors.
  15. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 20 October 2017 16: 46 New
    0
    Author. And most - how much? In absolute terms, in relative versus non-conditional terms?
    Is there evidence or just empty slogans?
  16. afrikanez
    afrikanez 20 October 2017 17: 03 New
    +4
    But he’s not a “fired” roll from a kiosk, no matter how 14 million rubles! This would be given for a bun “three rubles”, “easy”, and for stolen state funds you can give a “condition”. Long live our court, the most humane court in the world! (C)
  17. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 20 October 2017 17: 34 New
    +2
    Nothing, here Putin will be reassigned for a term of 5 and will take up corrupt officials to the fullest - for this he has been preparing the ground for 17 years.
    1. Elevator
      Elevator in the building 20 October 2017 21: 57 New
      0
      only 17 ..? come on, it's not so much - an instant of life .. how about a "continuation of the banquet" ..?
  18. Giants
    Giants 20 October 2017 18: 35 New
    +4
    Vasily Yurchenko caused damage to the treasury of the Novosibirsk region in the amount of more than 14 million rubles [i] [/ i]
    A man swims finely, only 14 lyamas. You need it like this:
  19. Giants
    Giants 20 October 2017 18: 40 New
    +2
    Well, for comparison. So to say the whole charm of Putin's justice:
    In the Yaroslavl region, a criminal case was sent to the court regarding the theft of a traffic light. This was reported by the prosecutor's office of the region.

    The charge was brought against two residents of the Rybinsk district.
    “At the end of April 2017, young people returning from a disco from the village Pesochnoe of the Rybinsk district, while intoxicated, stole a traffic light located on the Yaroslavl-Rybinsk highway 250 meters from the turn in Pesochnoye, intending to use the traffic light sign in the future to make light music, the message says. - As a result of theft of traffic lights, the Department of Transport of the Yaroslavl region suffered damage worth over 15 thousand rubles. The cost of the repair of the damaged traffic light object amounted to more than 65 thousand rubles. "
    During the preliminary investigation, the defendants pleaded guilty. The criminal case was sent to the Rybinsk city court for consideration on the merits.
    For the commission of this crime, a fine of up to two hundred thousand rubles or a wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to eighteen months, or compulsory labor for up to four hundred eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to two years, or forced labor for a term of five years with restriction of liberty for a term of up to one year or without it, or deprivation of liberty for a term of up to five years with restriction of liberty for a term of up to one year or without it.
  20. Dedall
    Dedall 20 October 2017 19: 52 New
    +3
    It generally surprises me that in our country, the principle of the presumption of innocence does not apply only to doctors. That is, any statement alleging that the doctor made mistakes in treatment is followed by sad consequences for the physician. But now it’s a very frequent case, because everyone knows how to write a request in Yandex or Google. With a salary of 7620 rubles, few doctors pass such a test for nerves, and they quit, leaving for private medicine or retirement.
    But in our country, any obvious bribe taker and embezzler of the fortune require compelling evidence of their guilt. “Serve.” He says. “At the same time, I’m taking photographs, video and sound recordings of how I took a bribe, and three other witnesses who saw it with my own eyes. And when the judge asks him: "So you do not plead guilty?" He replies proudly: "No!" And then the judge, closing the case, with a calm conscience declares: "But there is nothing and there is no trial!"
    And here, it seems to me, there are several ways for officials to overcome selfish intentions. The first, and most important, is the collection of taxes not from official earnings, but from the acquisitions of each individual person. Moreover, clearly define the goods and services socially necessary and those related to luxury goods. The last tax should be 3-4 times more. And that all goods and services, the cost of which, for example, more than ten thousand, should be paid only by bank transfer. And here it should be noted that periodically such proposals appear in the media, but then safely disappear.
    As for doctors, it is possible to introduce the guild institute. Moreover, not only for them, but also for, for example, a car service system or catering. And this implies the appearance on each territory of the elected council of the guild. And initially, the complaint or statement of anyverulent should be considered precisely on this advice. And if the fact is not confirmed, then on behalf of the guild a response is filed against the applicant. A defender must also be provided from the guild to protect the medic in court. But the trade unions, as having lost their functions of protecting rights in the light of the ban on strikes by doctors, should be completely abolished.
  21. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 20 October 2017 20: 20 New
    +2
    I think it’s necessary to build a control system for officials, so that when he gets a job the official gives permission to control his finances and the finances of his relatives, in which case he should be ready to report for each ruble, and the official’s relatives should come under special control of the tax services and regulatory authorities , and of course, in which case complete confiscation. Then then all sorts of newcomers may not be so torn
  22. Yves762
    Yves762 20 October 2017 21: 39 New
    0
    “Precondition” as a measure against corruption?


    "And shaw you will do this.?." wassat
  23. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 October 2017 21: 09 New
    0
    Where are the real "landings" of the vile from the treasury of the stealing? For such a raster article is needed in the Criminal Code!