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Who and why the US will be accused of a future terrorist attack

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The United States is completing preparations for a new large confrontation. They lost the war in Syria, and written off to the garbage stories LIH. This page is turned and there will be no more return to it. But there will be a new war and Acting Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke told us about preparations for it yesterday during a speech at the American Embassy in London:

“Terrorist organizations - ISIS or others - want to carry out an explosion similar to the one that they carried out on September 11. They want to shoot down the plane, the intelligence clearly speaks about it. ”

Analogies with 11 September 2001, sounded in the speech of Elaine Duke, flashed by chance. Everyone remembers perfectly well what the consequences for the world were. And especially for the country that the United States accused of harboring the initiators of the attack. The finger then fell on Afghanistan, in which the terrorists who attacked America allegedly settled and was attacked.

By the way, the US Army is still there.

It is obvious that in case of repeating the 11 scenario in September, the country to which it is indicated, the documents randomly discovered after the terrorist attack will not be good enough. Who it will be more or less clear, but in this story there is still one more incomprehensible moment ...

Will the attack

It is obvious that it was possible to inform American diplomats about the impending terrorist act through secret diplomatic channels. Usually this is done, but here everything was said publicly, which means that the information was intended not for the American ambassador in London and his subordinates, but for third parties, or rather states. For those countries that today greatly hinder the Americans to implement their global plans. They need to understand that Washington’s patience has come to an end and there is no more time to think. Either they go to the negotiations and retreat, or the Americans strike at themselves and accuse him ...

We will no longer keep the reader guessing, of course, it will be Iran.

How to save Kurdistan

Judging by all the time for thinking, Tehran really has little left. The red line after which Washington decided to declare an ultimatum to Tehran in such an extravagant manner was the attack on Kurdistan by Iraq and the pro-Iranian Shiites (and the IRGC troops, which is already there) 16 October 2017 of the year. It was initiated by the Iranians, and in Washington’s opinion they should not have done so.

Who and why the US will be accused of a future terrorist attack


The attack on Kurdistan, in the event of its success, destroys all US Middle East plans and finally throws them into the second role in the new regional matrix built by Russia, Iran and Turkey. Save the situation for Washington can only large-scale entry of American troops into Iraq and the creation on its territory of bases that will cover the Kurds and allow them to complete their adventure with independence.

Will there be war

Today, in fact, an information attack on Iran has already begun, although airplanes have not yet fallen on American cities, and no important objects explode in them. Kurdish publications have already declared the genocide of the Kurdish population by the Iranian Shiites, there are already accusations of the leaders of Kurdistan against the “world community” who have thrown them themselves against Iranian “monsters”. What is missing is a convenient excuse that Washington can create by itself, as he has already done it once in the 2001 year.



Tehran can protect itself from such a development of the situation only by going backwards. Either ... as soon as the “first Boeing” falls on the Pentagon or whatever the CIA and the NSA will think up for their fellow citizens ”, to enter the army into Kurdistan and conduct a blitzkrieg and thereby put the US before the fact that“ ordinary Kurdistan ”cannot be saved.
This will not save Tehran from sanctions and strikes in response, but by doing so it makes a weighty bid for victory in the future. Having begun to retreat today, no one will give it to him anymore.

So, the USA announced their ultimatum, we will watch the response of Tehran.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 October 2017 06: 35
    +4
    By the way, the US Army is still there.

    ... and she, this army, can with great success remain there forever, forever .. in the sense, in boxes under her striped flag ... in coffins .. bully
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 21 October 2017 06: 46
      +6
      Who and why the US will be accused of a future terrorist attack
      and if there is nobody to blame ...? here’s a holiday on the planet, I’m dreaming that the Grand Canyon will remain from the USA ... and that’s it ...
      1. ser6119
        ser6119 25 October 2017 23: 51
        0
        Better Strait named after Stalin laughing
    2. The black
      The black 21 October 2017 08: 13
      +4
      Who and why the US will be accused of a future terrorist attack
      Well, there are two obvious options - Iran and North Korea ... smile
      1. Macross
        Macross 21 October 2017 10: 38
        +7
        Quote: Black
        Well, there are two obvious options - Iran and North Korea ... smile

        well what nonsense, of course, Iran, the DPRK already has something to answer
        1. Ulan
          Ulan 21 October 2017 14: 12
          +9
          That's for sure. Having tried to threaten Korea and achieved nothing, as well as not daring to attack Korea, for fear of getting a retaliatory nuclear strike, the Americans first tried to switch to Venezuela, and then apparently decided that Iran was a better option, besides it was a chance to regain its position in the Middle East, which Russia deprived of them.
          Yes, and safe, Iran has Y.O. no, and the US will bomb Iran from afar, and are unlikely to go on a ground operation.
          The goal will be to bomb Iran in the Stone Age.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 22 October 2017 18: 40
        +2
        Quote: Black
        So, the USA announced their ultimatum, we will watch the response of Tehran.

        Quote: Black
        Well, there are two obvious options - Iran and North Korea ...

        And I suddenly thought, what kind of terrorist attack could the terrorists commit against the United States according to the next plan of the Tsrules, so that everyone would be horrified?
        Was there something about a grenade launcher to bring down an airplane?
        Now, who did you think of as a victim of the terrorist attack so that all of America would be horrified and start a new war? ISIS-created by the Americans and controlled by them, is now regrouping. Some went to south Somalia, control over hydrocarbon transportation routes. others to the north through Afghanistan to Central Asia, it’s understandable why. Will Turkmenistan with its gas field, a third of which in Afghanistan + the gas pipeline plans through Pakistan to India, be a target, as a competitor to Iran, we do not know.
        But something is getting restless. ISIS leaves, but everything will remain Kurds and again all over again?
    3. exwarrent
      exwarrent 22 October 2017 03: 33
      0
      Let them tie, the deeper they get stuck, the more this contributes to the dispersal of forces. As the Chinese say, "There is nothing better than sitting on a high mountain and watching two tigers fight in the valley."
      1. akims
        akims 22 October 2017 12: 11
        +1
        It works if there are only two tigers ...
      2. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 23 October 2017 12: 57
        0
        Quote: exwarrent
        Let them tie, the deeper they get stuck, the more this contributes to the dispersal of forces. As the Chinese say, "There is nothing better than sitting on a high mountain and watching two tigers fight in the valley."

        Given that the globe is rather small, it would be more correct to describe the situation differently: "Sit in the valley and watch two tigers fighting side by side ..."
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 October 2017 10: 15
      0
      The US itself has deprived itself of the possibility of provocation for intervention. Wherever you stick - their bases are everywhere. And where there are none, the Americans are sent there on a well-known walking route: that of Iran with the Philippines, that of the DPRK. The world is not the same. hi
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 21 October 2017 08: 02
    21
    Look, you don’t hesitate to talk about methods of implementing your own interests lol
    Do you still believe in the 11/9 attack? belay Me not No.
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 21 October 2017 11: 56
      14
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Do you still believe in the 11/9 attack? Me not

      It is in the terrorist attack? No, of course. Special operation of the CIA, carried out with flaws, and nothing more.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 14
        11
        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
        It is in the terrorist attack? No, of course. Special operation of the CIA, carried out with flaws, and nothing more.

        Yes there is no terrorist attack, against his own people ... With the crooked hands of the CIA.
        1. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 21 October 2017 16: 57
          0
          And this same person wants the CIA to selectively exterminate the Russian elites with the same crooked hands.
          https://topwar.ru/127311-smertelnaya-ulovka-dlya-
          moskvy-novye-detali-bystrogo-globalnogo-udara-kak
          -ne-nastupit-na-odni-i-te-zhe-grabli.html # comment
          -id-7450222
          That is, the CIA against the American people is a terrorist attack, and the CIA against the Russian people is just the dream of an Internet colonel. But how do such contradictory positions fit in one person? Unless if there is no position, but there is a simple writing and speaking room, when hands and tongue are connected directly, bypassing the brain.
        2. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 21 October 2017 17: 04
          +5
          Quote: NIKNN
          CIA's crooked hands.

          To crank up such an operative and that everything would be smooth? Never. But what we saw was at its best for such an occasion. good People shawal, and those who guessed that it was actually stupidly silent, because they still remember how the "witnesses" were killed and asked unnecessary questions in the case of the Kennedy assassination yes And do not forget about the attack in the media, where it was only becoming clear that America was attacked, and after some time, when the emotions calmed down and questions began to appear, it no longer became important, because the words "terrorist attack," Al -Kaida ", Bin Laden" ... The game is done - the country is under the hood, corporations share the profits, chaos spreads ... hi
        3. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 23 October 2017 09: 11
          0
          You can call it differently, but our opinions about the contractor and the customer agree at least a little.
      2. Ulan
        Ulan 21 October 2017 14: 17
        +3
        Most sane people think the same way you do.
    2. ZAV69
      ZAV69 21 October 2017 12: 32
      +2
      Yes, in any case, the origins of this terrorist attack are either in the oval office or the office of the director of the CIA. 90% first option
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 October 2017 17: 57
      +8
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Do you still believe in the 11/9 attack? Me not


      The attack was, only behind it were not the people who were voiced ... this operation was by the US special services in order to identify the enemy and begin the invasion of the Middle East. Ala is that famous test tube, ... and in this connection the question arises: What kind of organization is the CIA if it does not shun from such methods as a terrorist act against its population?
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 22 October 2017 10: 17
        0
        What about Ryazan sugar?
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 October 2017 08: 13
    +3
    You can expect everything from these at any time. Suppose there is a terrorist attack in which the United States accused Iran. What's next? If the United States had full confidence in the impunity of the attack (loss of salvage, huge financial costs, etc.) on Iran, they would have done it today.
    1. Ulan
      Ulan 21 October 2017 14: 19
      +4
      It is unlikely that the Americans will go on a ground operation, unless the Kurds use the remnants of ISIS.
      Rather, there will be an attack from the air and from the sea. Yugoslavia was bombed for half a year.
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  5. michell
    michell 21 October 2017 08: 24
    19
    “Terrorist organizations - ISIS or others - want to carry out an explosion similar to the one they carried out on September 11th. They want to bring down a plane, intelligence clearly says it».

    An interesting wording and a very specific one - “bring down a plane”. Against the background of the four planes that died on September 11, what kind of aircraft should it be (in a single number) in order for the terrorist attack to be at least no less loud than September 11? US Air Force No. 1? With one shot - two birds with one stone - get rid of the inconvenient president, and justify all subsequent absolutely any actions ...
    1. boboss
      boboss 21 October 2017 11: 21
      +2
      ))) for sure .... but you can shoot down and a crow
      1. akims
        akims 22 October 2017 12: 13
        0
        And on the raven they will find the tail number, black boxes and about. Air Force signs ...
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 17
      +5
      Quote: michell
      US Air Force No. 1? With one shot - two birds with one stone - get rid of the inconvenient president, and justify all subsequent absolutely any actions ...

      Iran fighter with identification marks ...
      1. Passer
        Passer 21 October 2017 16: 18
        +3
        Quote: NIKNN

        Iran fighter with identification marks ...

        F-35, but with Iranian markings.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 21 October 2017 16: 25
          +5
          Quote: Passer
          F-35, but with Iranian markings.

          Well, initially it was sarcasm. Well, once the topic is supported. In private US companies (used by the Air Force for exercises), there are MiG-29 fighters ..., repaint and attack by shooting on video ...
          Well, like that ... request
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 21 October 2017 21: 27
            +4
            You can drown any American bulk carrier so as not to repeat itself. However, Americans always use the well-proven old. For example, "unknown" snipers on the roofs of houses.
      2. exwarrent
        exwarrent 22 October 2017 03: 36
        0
        And with a dozen test tubes on board
  6. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 October 2017 08: 27
    0
    The main thing is that the American partners do not turn against Iran, as it once was.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 18
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      The main thing is that the American partners do not turn against Iran, as it once was.

      And where do you get them to get to? Get out of NATA?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 21 October 2017 16: 38
        0
        And where do you get them to get to?
        Sorry, I meant the partners of the Americans.
  7. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 21 October 2017 08: 57
    +2
    World fake masters must report for taxpayers' money, first of all, for a massive invasion of Iran, they lack an ideological justification. And the explosion of a small nuclear bomb by the "terrorists", as well as the landing on the moon once, will help them ....
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 20
      +4
      Quote: aybolyt678
      And the explosion of a small nuclear bomb by the "terrorists", as well as the landing on the moon once, will help them ....
      But what about the verified intelligence that there will be an airplane? Above, a clearer idea was stated by US Board No. 1, along with Donald Trump ... crying
  8. nord62
    nord62 21 October 2017 09: 29
    +6
    Yes .... and it really requires a NEW war, and otherwise - collapse: both as a country, and as a political system, and as an economic model ... For the sake of saving their hamburger-assed asses, they will go for everything, including millions of people victims .....
  9. Sars
    Sars 21 October 2017 09: 41
    +7
    By the way, the Iranians can remind the Americans of the Boeing they shot down over the Persian Gulf.
  10. Radikal
    Radikal 21 October 2017 10: 33
    +4
    Quote: rotmistr60
    You can expect everything from these at any time. Suppose there is a terrorist attack in which the United States accused Iran. What's next? If the United States had full confidence in the impunity of the attack (loss of salvage, huge financial costs, etc.) on Iran, they would have done it today.

    We must first carry out information support for the upcoming operation ... sad
  11. Macross
    Macross 21 October 2017 10: 36
    +2
    And what did the Kurds want when, by order of the United States, they killed civilians? To be white and fluffy?
  12. Jarilo
    Jarilo 21 October 2017 10: 40
    +1
    America does not need Iran; Israel needs it. America needs Korea. If America attacks Iran, then Israel rules them.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 24
      +3
      Quote: Jarilo
      America does not need Iran; Israel needs it. America needs Korea. If America attacks Iran, then Israel rules them.

      Just today in a discussion with an Israeli guy ... I’m copying:
      Krasnodar Today, 13:27 ↑
      About the owners - well, think for yourself:
      States cover Israel grandmothers for a portion of defense spending.
      Cover him in the UN Security Council
      The US has no geopolitical interest in this
      The richest ethnic group in the USA is Jews
      Well, who is whose master? :)
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 22 October 2017 10: 22
        0
        well, after such words, the deceased Zbigniew is immediately recalled and his question about elite affiliation ...
  13. Macross
    Macross 21 October 2017 10: 42
    0
    Quote: SarS
    By the way, the Iranians can remind the Americans of the Boeing they shot down over the Persian Gulf.

    For the United States, it flew into one ear, so flew out of the other. They are history and geography unnecessary.
  14. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 21 October 2017 10: 43
    +2
    These nonhumans can organize themselves, carry out an attack and blame anyone for this. Lying, in order to achieve their selfish goals, has become the creed of amers. Too many inconsistencies pop up on September 11th.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 22 October 2017 10: 25
      0
      Yes surfaced on the first day ...
      A simple question, a photo of the Pentagon ... Boeing left a hole with a diameter of 5 meters?
  15. sergevonsohrn
    sergevonsohrn 21 October 2017 10: 51
    +2
    Americans have already outlined the so-called "axis of evil" - Iran, the DPRK and ..... Russia (??? !!!)! it’s easy to guess who in this series is the “main villain”! there is an unequivocal connection to a hybrid war against the emerging "second center of power" ....
  16. boboss
    boboss 21 October 2017 11: 19
    +1
    London will be declared guilty ...... so interesting
  17. boboss
    boboss 21 October 2017 11: 24
    0
    they will shoot down the Boeing, they will not ..... but the aircraft carrier sank its own .... straying off the coast of Japan is more fun
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    1. ML-334
      ML-334 21 October 2017 14: 11
      +6
      At least there is something to pinch, unlike you, bedding, you will be with them in any situation, no matter who pinches anyone. History shows that Russia is pinching everyone and wholesale.
    2. japs
      japs 21 October 2017 23: 29
      +7
      It is painfully menacing you squeak, Tribal trollik. Are you yours ..... exactly from steel?
      Be careful not to get into the Suvalkovsky Corridor. From Pskov to Bialystok.
      Teach you poorly at your "Gayvorepsky center of truth."
  19. Greenwood
    Greenwood 21 October 2017 12: 25
    +1
    Well, Iran is Afghanistan not torn by civil war. The ayatollah regime is very stable, and the army and special services are among the most impressive in the Middle East. You just don’t invade and bomb.
  20. Kadimich
    Kadimich 21 October 2017 12: 25
    0
    Commentary NOT by an independent observer, but by a government-ANGIATED media official who is interested in further escalating tensions !!
  21. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx 21 October 2017 12: 26
    +4
    The article is very serious, and most likely it will be so. Of course, the exact analogue with skyscrapers will not be repeated, but the United States will come up with something. What conclusions should we draw? Firstly, to prepare in the information plan, to warn about it in all mass media and at all levels. Secondly, we will need to protect Iran at least through diplomatic and political means. We have few allies, albeit situational ones. But in the future we will have to solve the problem with Afghanistan, where the United States is already transferring the best terrorist commanders. There will be a threat to Central Asia. Third, and most importantly, we must help Syria and its army liberate the eastern raw material regions of the country behind the Euphrates as soon as possible. Then, when the Americans provide a corridor for the Kurds and reinforce them many times, it may be too late. Hurry up. I would like to suggest the following planning option. Some areas cannot be liberated, not because it is impossible, but because it threatens a global clash with the United States. So it is necessary to clearly identify those areas in the raw materials areas that are critical for the restoration of the country's economy. Urgently and at all costs to free them. And the rest of the territory, given that 85% or even more of the country's area has already been freed, will be released later. It may take many years for all 100% of Syria’s territory to belong to itself. But after the liberation of the most important raw material regions, it is already possible to take up the comprehensive strengthening of the country and its armed forces, in short, the stabilization of the state. This is beneficial to us, we are waiting for other problems, including in Ukraine. But for some reason I’m sure that as soon as we announce the completion of the main phase of the operation and the beginning of the country's reconstruction, the Americans will lose interest in Syria. Here is a solution to the problem. By the way, if the Americans will escalate the situation with Iran after we have managed to free critical areas in the East of Syria, then it will be beneficial for us, since in this situation attention will be diverted from Syria, they will not be able to arrange all kinds of provocations for us, and we we will be freed from many problems, and from the threat of the most dangerous clash, even in this region. Pressure on Iran will make it a more reliable ally for many years to come. And the last one. We need a powerful base in eastern Syria. This will not only help more effectively in protecting this state, but, above all, we ourselves can control the Middle and even partially the Middle East. We are on the path to the revival of a superpower, do not forget about it.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 21 October 2017 20: 15
      0
      Kurds in Syria and Iraq are now in limbo. At the moment, they want to pull the Iranian Kurds into this state. And for this, an excuse is needed, which they want to create.
      1. A_L_F
        A_L_F 22 October 2017 02: 05
        0
        Quote: Sergey53
        Kurds in Syria and Iraq are now in limbo. At the moment, they want to pull the Iranian Kurds into this state. And for this, an excuse is needed, which they want to create.

        Syrian, Iranian, Turkish Kurds cannot find a common language, they even fight among themselves
  22. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2017 12: 27
    0
    Quote: Macross
    well what nonsense, of course, Iran, the DPRK already has something to answer

    I think that exactly the opposite. DPRK It is more difficult to wage war with a country that has a population of 78 million people and an area of ​​1,7 million square kilometers than with a country with a population three times smaller (25 million) and a territory almost 14 times smaller. Purely technical ...
    1. Macross
      Macross 21 October 2017 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      I think that exactly the opposite. DPRK It is more difficult to wage war with a country that has a population of 78 million people and an area of ​​1,7 million square kilometers than with a country with a population three times smaller (25 million) and a territory almost 14 times smaller. Purely technical ...

      And you took into account that China will defend the 37th parallel if it is crossed by the USA, South Korea, Japan. before the DPRK does it. We will also have to get involved, so we ourselves border on the DPRK.
      The United States is easier to attack specifically Iran, and show another test tube for evidence.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 21 October 2017 14: 30
        +4
        Quote: Macross
        The United States is easier to attack specifically Iran, and show another test tube for evidence.

        Already yesterday
        The White House accused Iran of "poisoning" World»Afghan heroin
    2. andrew xnumx
      andrew xnumx 21 October 2017 14: 31
      +4
      You're not right. Even the president in his speech said that no one knows where the "nuclear surprises" of North Korea are hidden. This country has shown real fearlessness, albeit on the verge of madness. And they’re really afraid of her. But Iran caved in under pressure from the West. So it can bend further. And he certainly doesn’t have nuclear weapons. As for the large army and the patriotic population, today the modern army can destroy the infrastructure of another country with precision strikes and without invasion, which the Americans have already demonstrated. In addition, by introducing troops into Iraq, they can really help the Kurds who are now surrounded, strengthening them many times. This is dangerous for us in that the full liberation of Syria will not be completed, and most importantly, the country that we are saving will be deprived of resources. That is why we must now especially rush to free the eastern regions of Syria. In addition, it is highly recommended that all countries in the region unite against the Kurds. If only it were not too late! Americans choose those who do not withstand pressure. Therefore, their goal is definitely Iran. Kim (well done) scared them. This is a lesson for us. The small proud country did not give up in front of the giant. And if we weren’t afraid at the turn of the 90s, we would save the USSR and not solve the problem of how a weakened country would now restrain the onslaught of the whole West. You have to be tough and unbending. The US understands only power. And the 3rd World War will very likely begin in the Middle East.
      1. Macross
        Macross 21 October 2017 15: 06
        +1
        Everything is correct, but not eastern, northern.
      2. A_L_F
        A_L_F 22 October 2017 02: 11
        0
        Quote: andrew 07
        The small proud country did not give up in front of the giant. And if we weren’t afraid at the turn of the 90s, we would save the USSR and not solve the problem of how a weakened country would now restrain the onslaught of the whole West. You have to be tough and unbending. The US understands only power. And the 3rd World War will very likely begin in the Middle East.

        Americans already 1000 times regretted that they destroyed the USSR, remaining a socialist country and continuing the Brezhnev stagnation, we would not be able to resist US hegemony
      3. exwarrent
        exwarrent 22 October 2017 03: 40
        0
        Hmm, there’s something in it ... And the most interesting thing is that (although I do not completely agree with the author of the posts) a very similar alignment comes out to my internal estimates .. Respect to the author
  23. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 21 October 2017 12: 54
    0
    The Russian hackers who immediately seized control of the Boeing and “dropped” it were immediately blamed for the attack. The American public is sure that it was Russia that destroyed the Boeing over the Donbass, so it is easy to believe in the version with Russian hacker-terrorists.
    1. A_L_F
      A_L_F 22 October 2017 02: 16
      0
      And what did they do ?, grunted together with their Western brothers, even when legally the Federal Republic of Crimea joined Russia, they could only publish pig screech laughing
  24. Natalia777
    Natalia777 21 October 2017 13: 19
    +4
    The US needs war like a fish in water. Otherwise, the military-industrial complex of ratmen will be left without orders. Iran really suits the US as a victim. Even under Obama, the United States tried to accuse Iran of producing atomic weapons. Having started the war in Iran, the USA immediately kills 3 birds with one stone. Weaken the position of Syria, seize power in the Middle East and build American Kurdistan. And of course, the US military-industrial complex will receive trillion orders, the American army of ISIS will receive a new influx of militants, and then the USA, under the flags of ISIS, will start a war against Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan. And there is a stone's throw to Russia.
  25. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 21 October 2017 13: 33
    +3
    Of course, the next one is Iran ... We will see how it will be. Israel and the monarchies of the Middle East need Kurdistan in the form of a shield from Iran. And the Americans need to scare the world with their big club, otherwise everyone has completely lost their fear ...
  26. Foxmara
    Foxmara 21 October 2017 14: 57
    0
    Quote: Ulan
    puts them in the second role in the new regional matrix being built by Russia, Iran and Turkey. Only the large-scale entry of American troops into Iraq and the creation on its territory can save the situation for Washington.

    Iran can block the strait and oil will be 400 bucks ...
  27. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2017 16: 14
    0
    Quote: Macross
    And you took into account that China will defend the 37th parallel if it is crossed by the USA, South Korea, Japan. before the DPRK does it. We will also have to get involved, so we ourselves border on the DPRK.
    The United States is easier to attack specifically Iran, and show another test tube for evidence.

    Firstly, there was no talk of any 37th parallel. It was said that China would help if the Americans were the first to attack. If Koreans are the first, no.
    And what, the Americans can not arrange a provocation to strike Eun first? This is the first. The second one. Do not forget that China of the 50s and modern are two different countries. And now in the first place is not the political and ideological component, but the economic one. And first of all, China will take care of its own welfare, and not send, as in the first war, millions of its soldiers to the slaughter. China is too seriously integrated into global production to simply risk its economic well-being. Moreover, the DPRK has already become uncontrollable in relation to China.

    Yes, he made a political statement, but how the situation will go, how it will develop - no one can predict

    At the same time, Iran, although armed with fairly old and diverse equipment, can nevertheless harm the United States by trying to block oil flows. Yes, and the United States is unlikely to fight alone with Iran, with a huge, almost 80 million country. This is not Iraq when, in response to the capture of Kuwait, a coalition from dozens of countries began to act against it. This is unlikely here. But for Una, the coalition that the Americans can create is the USA-Japan-South Korea.
    1. Macross
      Macross 21 October 2017 16: 30
      +1
      1. 37 parallel divides the south from the north.
      2. Americans have been provoking for 25 years now, from firing large-caliber and speakers towards the north, to flying, training, etc. North has never been provoked.
      3. The population of China, a third are located just next to Korea and they clearly do not need explosions, especially nuclear ones. China has not lost its mind.
      4. No matter how integrated China is in world production, it is moving to the next stage, as Xi has been talking about for several years now. That is, to the domestic market.
      5. The population of Vietnam was larger, the United States, this did not stop the invasion.
      6. According to intelligence from both ours and other countries, North Korea is almost entirely covered by bomb shelters and tunnels between them. Just recently, 3 million people decided to join the troops of North Korea, if a war begins. And the army of North Korea is not so small.
      1. andrew xnumx
        andrew xnumx 21 October 2017 17: 38
        +1
        By the way, we should have stated long ago that we would not allow the use of heavy weapons and, in general, a major war in a country bordering us. This is dangerous for Vladivostok and our other cities. A similar statement could also stop the United States in the Far East. In addition, we are simply obliged to redeploy additional troops to the border with Korea to show that together with China we will not allow the approach of the US army to our borders. Perhaps we could say that if the United States decides on a conflict, then we will shoot down any missiles 300-400 kilometers from our border. But, nevertheless, I believe escalation will occur in the Middle East. The United States acts like a computer, it has long been understood not only in our General Staff, and they do not like and are very afraid of uncertainty. And North Korea just represents such uncertainty. By the way, most likely there will be no big war with Iran either. The author of this article, as well as other authors have already written about this. But under the pretext of Iran’s danger, additional US troops will be brought into Iraq, then a strong Kurdistan will blow up the Middle East. However, other US provocations are possible, one can only guess where. But recent “accusations” point to Iran. The Israeli bombing of Syria also scares. We will be able to stop this after the almost complete liberation of the country's territory, or rather its critically important northern resource territories, or their main part. Therefore, the conclusion is still the same - it is necessary to hurry in order to complete the basic hostilities as soon as possible to the stage where we will have full right to declare that the war is over. Then we’ll clean up Idlib, then we will remove the militants from the south of the country, then we will strengthen the country's air defense and close the skies of Syria not only for Israeli aviation, but also for US and NATO planes, and finally we will begin to rebuild the country. A little later, we will return the last territories, which so far, probably we will not be able to return because of the danger of a global collision. In the end, we will build an exemplary multicultural country in Syria. Here begins our formation as a superpower. Next in line is Libya.
        1. Bubarius
          Bubarius 27 October 2017 20: 16
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          The question is only what for us there is an exemplary country?) Can we build for ourselves?)))
    2. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 21 October 2017 21: 01
      +4
      Comrade Kalashnikov says it’s not very difficult to defeat Iran technically - the fact is that almost the entire potential there is concentrated in a very small territory

      Trump intends to withdraw from a nuclear deal with Iran. The general loud voice began: they say, now America will start a war with Iran, and there - the Third World War.
      Bullshit. There will be no world war. The third one was already there (Cold). And if the United States decides to start a war against Iran, then this is just a salvation for the Russian Federation. In the form of a wild rise in oil prices. For some time. Until the world falls into a new circle of global depression. With falling commodity prices.
      Suppose the Yankees decide to fight Iran. Let us leave out of the brackets that the United States is far from being in the condition that it was in 1991 (defeat of Iraq), in 1999 (air attack on Serbia) or in 2003 (capture of Iraq). The national debt of America in 2003 - 6,7 trillion. dollars, now - almost 20 trillion.
      Fantastic efforts are not required to flood Iran. It is enough to take only one province of Iran - Khuzestan (Arabistan), where 90% of the country's oil and gas resources, its petrochemicals and steel industry are concentrated. 7% of Iran’s territory, separated from the rest of the country by mountain ranges with five passes.





      The United States, which once captured Iraq, is quite capable of capturing the province and blocking mountain passes. To kill the Iranian Air Force (they are old stuff) and wait for the economic collapse of the country. If it’s boring, from the bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, as well as from aircraft carriers, it is possible to end Iran’s electric power, transport and communications with air strikes and cruise missiles. The ground forces of Iran will vainly storm the passes: under American dominance in the air, they are doomed to defeat with heavy losses. And in Khuzestan, Arabs-separatists live. Iran has no nuclear weapons.
      Those who like to shock the air with the number of tanks, armored personnel carriers, guns and bayonets (manpower) of Iran will answer: in the current wars this played almost no role. Under Western dominance in the air, ground forces are immobilized, deprived of fuel and staffs. The offensive along the narrow mountain passages of armies devoid of air cover is a real gift for the US Air Force. Recall that they could not be prevented by the air defense of Libya in 1986 and in 2011, the air defense of Iraq in 1991 and 2003, the air defense of Serbia in 1999.

      Occupying only 7% of the territory of Iran is much easier than the whole country.

      The second option: do not take Khuzestan, but start an air campaign against Iran, as against Iraq in 1991 or against Serbia in 1999. But it is very expensive: Iran is much larger than Iraq. First, it is necessary to put an end to Iran’s Air Force and Air Defense, to stop any possibility of its troops invading Iraq and Kuwait. Need to transfer the grouping into hundreds of aircraft. (In 1991, Iraq was smashed by 9 US carriers, 1700 tactical aircraft and 450 deck carriers, despite the fact that they were multinational forces, not just American ones). It is unlikely that Trump will now be able to assemble such a coalition. For America, such a war (without the use of nuclear weapons) means the utmost tension of forces. Despite the fact that the country's economy is much weaker than in 1991 (then the national debt was 3,2 trillion, 54,2% of GDP. Now it is about 20 trillion, 106% of GDP).
      So Trump is unlikely to start a war with Iran. Not that now the domestic political situation in America. And he will never be the first to decide on nuclear strikes.

      ***

      But let's say the war has begun. Oil prices will skyrocket to at least $ 80 per barrel. For some time, overplanned tens of billions of dollars will flow in Russia.
      This is a chance for the Kremlin. But only if he does not trot and plunder these oil revenues, as was the case in 2000-2014, but invests them in new industrialization. And in a hurry: very soon because of the war against Iran, the world will fall into a new circle of crisis. Raw materials will fall in price again. And then the RF is a cover.
      However, something tells me that in the event of a new jump in oil prices, the Kremlin will not do anything. As in the period 2000-2014. Like, cheers, the oil breech is back, we outwitted everyone ...
  28. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2017 17: 22
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    Quote: Ulan
    Yes, and safe, Iran has Y.O. no, and the US will bomb Iran from afar, and are unlikely to go on a ground operation.

    How to bomb? Especially from afar. This is when the territory of 300 x 300 km, as in Korea - you can bomb. And when 1500 x 1500 - it's hard to do

    Quote: Macross
    1. 37 parallel divides the south from the north.

    Generally THIRTY-EIGHT parallel

    Quote: Macross
    2. Americans have been provoking for 25 years now, from firing large-caliber and speakers towards the north, to flying, training, etc. Severnaya has never been provoked ..

    Well, provocations are from the point of view of North Korea. From the point of view of the South and the USA - joint exercises. Without violation of the territorial integrity of the DPRK. On the fact that it was not provoked - and God forbid. The next time he can consider the bomber’s span 30 km from his borders a provocation and shy away from Guam.

    Quote: Macross
    3. The population of China, a third are located just next to Korea and they clearly do not need explosions, especially nuclear ones. China has not lost its mind.

    That's because he has not lost and is unlikely to stand up for North Korea. Only Americans really will be the first to strike. And then, it is not known what the reaction will be. Diplomatic or military assistance - no one knows.

    Quote: Macross
    4. No matter how integrated China is in world production, it is moving to the next stage, as Xi has been talking about for several years now. That is, to the domestic market ..

    There is no domestic market without an external

    Quote: Macross
    5. The population of Vietnam was larger, the United States did not stop the invasion ..

    Well, at least do not write nonsense? At the beginning of events, i.e. The Tonkin Incident, the population of Vietnam was 39,8 million people. Moreover, in South Vietnam, where the Americans came - 19,4 million. Agree that 19,4 million is less than 25 million North Korea and much less than 78 million people in Iran

    Quote: Macross
    6. According to intelligence from both ours and other countries, North Korea is almost entirely covered by bomb shelters and tunnels between them. Just recently, 3 million people decided to join the troops of North Korea, if a war begins. And the army of North Korea is not so small.

    Do not believe everything that is written in the press. Reconnaissance would hardly have blurted out. There are tunnels, there are underground plants, there are bomb shelters, but the fact that the whole country is covered with tunnels is from the category of fake
    3 million decided to join the army - this is their problem, but for them this is the best solution. Spring drought lowered the crop by almost a quarter. As will be in the fall - HZ. A 3 million reduction in the working population is already a larger reduction in food distribution. But in the army, these 3 million are guaranteed that they will feed

    The DPRK army has 1 million 20 thousand people. Now imagine what these additional 3 million will be armed with. Automatic? With sticks? Hoes?
    1. Macross
      Macross 21 October 2017 18: 13
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      1950 300 * 300 and it didn’t succeed in destroying, and in 1953 in Iran they made an armed coup.
      for 38, please forgive me, but you already understood me.
      the passage of a bomber is a trifle compared to shelling the territory of the DPRK.
      Help will be military without any hint.
      China makes a more social country and develops int. the infrastructure. To increase domestic consumption.
      They have been fighting with Iran for quite some time, and they conduct operations there regularly, which cannot be said about North Korea.
      As for weapons. compare, Korea, even though they have old weapons, but at the level of Iran and its 4 times more than in all of Iran.
  29. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 21 October 2017 18: 33
    0
    Russia is in a difficult situation. She is in good relations with Syria, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia. But Kurds for the Russian Federation are not enemies. This complex political rebus is only within the power of Russia, which constantly acts as an arbiter among various nationalities in its country, the CIS and the world.
  30. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2017 20: 52
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    Quote: Macross
    1950 300 * 300 and it didn’t work out to destroy,

    Forgive me. But what else, 100-150 years we will nod to the 1950 war? For 70 years, weapons have advanced so much that all the time referring to the 1950th year is not entirely correct. For example, what had an American bomber in 1950. A speed of 6 hundred kilometers, machine gun weapons and conventional free-falling bombs of caliber are mainly 200-400 kg. What now? Planning ammunition with a flight range of up to 300-900 km, cruise missiles, high-precision weapons. And the fact that they couldn’t bomb then, because our fighter jets were in the way now.

    Quote: Macross
    the passage of a bomber is trifles compared to shelling the territory of the DPRK ..

    How often were shelling by the Americans of the territory of the DPRK? Could you tell?

    Quote: Macross
    The help will be military without any hints ..

    You are sure of this, especially in light of the fact that China and Russia INTRODUCED SANCTIONS AGAINST DPRK? That is, with one hand we prohibit the import of weapons, and with the other we will deliver? No logic

    Quote: Macross
    China makes a more social country and develops int. the infrastructure. To increase domestic consumption.

    Nobody argues. But internal transformations without an external market are unlikely. Export and, as a result, currency, import of what is needed. Creating an exclusively internal infrastructure is impossible

    Quote: Macross
    They have been fighting with Iran for quite some time, and they conduct operations there regularly, which cannot be said about North Korea.

    And when did the US fight for a long time with Iran? Something from an alternative story

    Quote: Macross
    As for weapons. compare, Korea, even though they have old weapons, but at the level of Iran and its 4 times more than in all of Iran.

    Iran is old, and North Korea is even older. If Iran has an aircraft fleet mainly in the mid-70s (F-5 F-14 F-4. Mirage-F1, Iraqi MIG-29, SU-24 and SU-25 of the late 80s, then Koreans have IL-28 , MIG-15, MIG-17, MI-19. MIG-21 of the mid-60s, etc. EMNIP 18 MIG-29. And what's the point, the North Koreans have 4 hundreds of old ones, and the Iranians have 330-350 newer ones Where is superiority 4 times? Iranians have 1500 tanks and 3500 Koreans. Again there are 4 times more. North Korean artillery is 3 times more, but Iranians have more large-caliber. Iran has significantly more tactical missiles than North Koreans Koreans have slightly more medium-range missiles. BUT NOT ABOUT ANY FOUR-TIME ADVANTAGE ADDRESS
    1. Macross
      Macross 22 October 2017 02: 27
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      For 70 years, Koreans have been constantly preparing for reflection in the conditions of the bombing.
      The last shelling was 2010 it seems, then South. The Koreans blamed the North, but the evidence lay only on the territory of the North.
      The United States also imposed sanctions against us, and that it is buying not only engines for the Atlas, but also airplanes. As far as I know, sanctions against Korea are a limitation in oil supplies and servicing of Korean vessels.
      Do you really think that China did not learn how to make machines and equipment?
      They have been fighting Iran since 1953. probably for you this is an alternative story, you are not from the entire world of the operation "AJAKS".
      Iranian Air Force consists of MiG-29 fighters (25 aircraft), F-4 (65), F-5 (more than 60 aircraft), F-14 (out of 60 available flight suitability 25), as well as Su-24 front-line bombers (30 aircraft) .
      The Korean Air Force also has Su-25 (34) and MiG-29 (20).
      Not to mention, North Korea is dominated by a large number of anti-aircraft defense.

      I also want to remind you that North Korea supplied weapons to Iran, not only tactical missiles, but also tanks and much more for resources. I’m even sure that Iran collaborated with Korea to develop a nuclear bomb.
  31. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 21 October 2017 23: 53
    0
    Meanness after meanness from the USA. Actually, what would be surprising if the former US metropolis, the current small Britain, has acted in exactly the same mean ways in relation to other countries since its inception. Iran is even sorry if everything said by the author of the article comes true. And the United States clearly wants to find the guilty person in what and at least somehow correct the situation in the Middle East in its favor. It is not surprising that the United States, with the help of its CIA, can again carry out a terrorist attack against its own citizens (as it was already on September 11) and then find evidence that the terrorist act was carried out by representatives of Iran
  32. codexomega
    codexomega 22 October 2017 02: 03
    +1
    And most likely, there will be no terrorist attack at all.
    It was not needed neither in the case of Iraq, nor in the case of Libya.
    They waved a test tube, showed on the news a military parade with missiles, embellished with scary headlines, and that’s enough.
    Now they are looking for ways to anger the Iranian government and force them to speak out against the United States or Israel.
    In my opinion, the scenario is as follows:
    Israel will arrange a provocation. Iran will speak out evil.
    America will declare that Iran threatens Israel.
    But North Korea, nobody needs it. You must admit that their rusty anti-aircraft defense will be suppressed in the first few seconds. And if even one rocket takes off, it will be intercepted.
    If they wanted, they would have bombed. But there are no economic interests, as well as political ones.
  33. LAWNER
    LAWNER 22 October 2017 12: 42
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    Americans rarely start a war in which they cannot win. In such cases, they seek partners.
    To attack Iran, which has abandoned nuclear weapons and is protected by treaties, means to show the world that the only means of protection against occupation is to have it. And all future nuclear powers will be hired by the UN and Magate. The end of the sole possession of nuclear weapons by the European powers will be laid down! Koreans ??? To attack peasant houses with high-tech weapons when there is nothing to take there .... I don’t think (plus nuclear weapons with delivery vehicles).
    But they can easily enter Latin America. A couple of orange revolutions, and flew to bomb the stronghold of the enemies of democracy. And Judah will help them.
    I think they will start a victorious little war there.
  34. Old26
    Old26 22 October 2017 17: 29
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    Comrad. Nevertheless, try to write your texts more carefully. And it turns out one about Thomas, the other about Yerema. We talked about the flights of American aircraft that the North Koreans consider them to be provocative. You write right there
    For 25 years, Americans have been arranging provocations, from firing large-caliber and speakers towards the north, to flying, training, etc. North has never been provoked.

    On my question,
    How often were shelling by the Americans of the territory of the DPRK? Could you tell?

    you answer that
    Quote: Macross
    The last shelling was 2010 it seems, then South. The Koreans blamed the North, but the evidence lay only on the territory of the North.

    So whose shelling, Korean or American?

    Quote: Macross
    The United States also imposed sanctions against us, and that it is buying not only engines for the Atlas, but also airplanes. As far as I know, sanctions against Korea are a limitation in oil supplies and servicing of Korean vessels.

    Are you again about pro? Sanctions against Korea are not only a limitation in the supply of oil and the maintenance of Korean vessels. Read the UN Security Council sanctions list.
    And the question nevertheless stood in a completely different plane, namely
    You are sure of this, especially in light of the fact that China and Russia INTRODUCED SANCTIONS AGAINST DPRK? That is, with one hand we prohibit the import of weapons, and with the other we will deliver? No logic

    You just distort and immediately ask a question
    Quote: Macross
    Do you really think that China did not learn how to make machines and equipment?

    I SAYS SOMEWHERE THAT THE CHINESE HAVE NOT LEARNED TO MAKE MACHINES AND EQUIPMENT?

    Quote: Macross
    They have been fighting Iran since 1953. probably for you this is an alternative story, you are not from the entire world of the operation "AJAKS".

    No, it’s like you are “Not of this world” or a lover of “alternative history”
    In your USA have been at war with Iran since 1953?
    Operation Ajax lasted less than a MONTH. All. After that, from 1953 to 1979, Iran was the BEST FRIEND of the USA, and the Shah Pahlavi was armed with practically American weapons. Moreover, in the middle of the Iran-Iraq war, the United States secretly supplied arms to Iran. If you heard such a phrase, "Iran-Contras" - this is about it. And only in 1987-1988 as a result of the internalization of the conflict, namely the "tanker war", there were separate clashes between the countries. Further. What after 1988? US ALL TIME WARS WITH IRAN?

    Quote: Macross
    Iranian Air Force consists of MiG-29 fighters (25 aircraft), F-4 (65), F-5 (more than 60 aircraft), F-14 (out of 60 available flight suitability 25), as well as Su-24 front-line bombers (30 aircraft) .
    The Korean Air Force also has Su-25 (34) and MiG-29 (20).

    Yes, I frankly forgot about the North Korean SU-25. True, they entered the arsenal of the DPRK through the third Sitran in 1987-1988, that is, the cars have been 30 years old. For some reason, you mentioned (and correctly) that almost a third of the F-14s are in flying condition. And how many of the 36 Korean SU-25 attack aircraft are in flight condition? Are you aware that in 2014 the operation of MIG-9 / F-6 machines was discontinued? And the biggest minus of the North Korean Air Force is a very small raid of their pilots.

    Quote: Macross
    Not to mention, North Korea is dominated by a large number of anti-aircraft defense.

    What are you saying? Will we compare?

    Quote: Macross
    I also want to remind you that North Korea supplied weapons to Iran, not only tactical missiles, but also tanks and much more for resources. I’m even sure that Iran collaborated with Korea to develop a nuclear bomb.

    He delivered rockets at the first stage, in the late 80s. Then they built a factory (s) for production. But what kind of tanks the Korean side supplied to Iran - it would be interesting to know ...
    Did he collaborate on nuclear weapons - we will not know about this soon
    1. Macross
      Macross 23 October 2017 01: 11
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      Provocation is also provoked - for me, these are different things, as I set fire and burn.
      As for South Korean or American, they are for one thing, as a coalition against terrorism in Syria. The main thing is to rekindle the conflict.
      Restriction https://www.kp.ru/online/news/2877440/ By agreeing on sanctions and freezing the conflict.
      Quote: Old26
      Nobody argues. But internal transformations without an external market are unlikely. Export and, as a result, currency, import of what is needed. Creating an exclusively internal infrastructure is impossible

      That's what the Chinese need currency for? If they already can do everything they want themselves? Here the question arises more of what quality. Therefore, I asked a question.
      In 1979, the Islamic Revolution took place in Iran. Since this year, all Iranian holdings have been frozen. In 1980, Operation Eagle Claw to free American hostages at the US Embassy in Tehran fails. In 1988, the United States shot down an Iranian 290 airliner. in the waters of Iran. The supply of arms and assistance to Iran began in 1983, when there was an Iran-Iraq war. At the same time, the United States also supplied weapons to Iraq.
      There is an S-200 in North Korea, although an updated S-300 has recently appeared in Iran. (And it seems that recently the Syrian S-200 shot down the bird F-35, as Israel refused to show the plane)

      Quote: Old26
      He delivered rockets at the first stage, in the late 80s. Then they built a factory (s) for production. But what kind of tanks the Korean side supplied to Iran - it would be interesting to know ...

      Variant of the Chonma-Ho I tank
      150 tanks delivered to Iran in 1982 — 1985. and took part in the Iran-Iraq war. Some of them were captured by the Iraqis.
      Around 75 Chonma-Ho I is still in service with the Iranian army. Well, this information is for 2014. That is, they could be written off.

      Quote: Old26
      Did he collaborate on nuclear weapons - we will not know about this soon

      https://ria.ru/world/20150528/1066872415.html
      https://penzanews.ru/analysis/60914-2012
      https://topwar.ru/12997-iran-i-hizballa-interesuy
      utsya-novymi-severokoreyskimi-protivokorabelnymi-
      raketami.html
      But most likely the development of the military industry.