Military Review

Civil officer selection

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The second civil war will be the result of a successful coup d'état, carried out by the liberal frond — aka the “fifth column” of Western and transnational elites in Russia. Then - either the death of the country, or its revival on a neo-socialist basis.

Had such a war happened, huge sacrifices await Russia — from a million people, with favorable developments to tens of millions during the occupation by foreign troops. The optimistic scenario assumes the timely consolidation of the real patriotic opposition and other healthy forces of society into the group of “new red” under the condition of political maturity and courage of the officer corps of the RF Armed Forces, in particular its central management, to resist the attempts of the liberals in power to destroy the army, primarily the SNF .

In the civil war, only two forces are able to save the Fatherland - real patriots and officers of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, special services, law enforcement agencies. But it is necessary to act in extraordinary conditions and in very extraordinary ways. Can significantly change ideas about their own and others. Decisions will have to be made and implemented in an extremely short time. And it is necessary to prepare for this today. The patriotic community will form the political basis, the healthy part of the officer corps, other military personnel and employees of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the FSB and the Interior Ministry - the power component of the “new red”, which will determine the outcome of the civil war (“Minin and Pozharsky again in the ranks”).

It is necessary to clarify the concept of "patriots of Russia". Today in the Russian media, opposition means the community of liberal-minded people who dream of returning to Yeltsin's times. These are those who in recent years were excommunicated from the “trough”, and previously were in power and in 90-s smashed our economy, calling it destruction market transformations and appropriating public property under the slogan of privatization. It was the “reformers” who called on 1993 in October to shoot the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation during an anti-constitutional armed coup. In that terrible time for our country, the opposition was understood to be completely different forces - trying to prevent the collapse of the state and economy. Their representatives liberals-destroyers dubbed the "red-brown." Today, the activity of communists and patriots has noticeably decreased as a result of the long-term hard persecution of the most active leaders. The activities of this opposition are deliberately hushed up, although it supports the actions of our president as in many respects consistent with its political objectives. But the influence of patriots on society, while consolidating the emerging trends, will grow.

The role of the real patriotic opposition in preserving the country is clearly visible in the example of Ukraine. The essence of what happened there is as follows. In the interests of overthrowing Yanukovych, the liberal-Westernist group was forced to involve the broad masses of the population in the protest movement, who to a large extent began to speak not only against the ruling clan, but against the entire oligarchy. As a result, the leaders of the "color revolution" could not retain control over the protesters. But moderate patriots and leftists proved incapable of leading the masses either organizationally or ideologically. As a result, the rebuilt Nazi factions began to dominate, united in the Right Sector. Later, they closed with the most aggressive part of the Ukrainian oligarchy, which led to the emergence of prerequisites for the establishment of the classical Nazi dictatorship. If real patriots were stronger and more organized, the country would be able to take the path of rebirth and significantly improve the economic situation over the past three years.

Together against the liberals

The patriotic opposition of Russia today is divided: a part has become a support group for the authorities, the other has gone into total denial of everything, becoming a sect, someone is trying to act independently, focusing on private matters. In general, this group does not have sufficient potential to significantly influence political processes.

The liberal fronda is immeasurably more powerful both materially and administratively, as well as informationally. They have no one - an acceptable ideology. The liberal idea in Russia completely discredited itself. We have to hide behind patriotic and even socialist phraseology, to look for formal allies among the "red-brown". But the potential of the liberals allows them to effectively rock the boat of Russian society.

The patriotic opposition must declare and show itself to be a tough opponent of this group. This position is also important in the moral and psychological sense - the “new red ones” will not be responsible for the “color revolution” and the unleashing of a civil war. At the same time, it must be remembered that it is the liberals who are interested in the earliest possible initiation of both in our country.

Organizational weakness and disunity of the patriots determine the creation of viable structures, management development, and the transition to planned principles that allow the enemy to intercept the initiative as priorities. Veteran military alliances, Cossack formations, due to the special training of their members, are able to do this most effectively. Many of them have a developed regional network, a good material base and a large number. However, acting independently, solving particular tasks in isolation from others, they will not achieve meaningful results, and even more so a noticeable influence on the situation. There is an urgent need for a united front of the organizations of veterans of the Armed Forces, special services and law enforcement agencies, “defense industry”, which could also have a political subject.

Another major area of ​​activity of the patriotic opposition should be propaganda. On the Internet, many sites of the desired orientation. Significantly the number of newspapers and magazines. This is sufficient, if properly used, the potential of political influence.
Especially focus on the target audience. Today, activists are processing their like-minded people in the information environment. This is a meaningless exercise, besides additional “pumping” will not lead to anything good. We must work with the general population. And remember that the military, security forces are not opponents of the patriots, but the main allies in opposing the “color revolution”. Today, this environment is largely depoliticized, people are focused on the performance of official duties. And in the departments themselves there are many ideological liberals, especially in the upper strata of the administrative apparatus, there are enough corrupt officials of various stripes. However, the majority are decent people and today they are fighting with the same “fifth column”, but their capabilities on this front are minimal due to legislative restrictions.

It is advantageous for the liberals to push the patriots together and in the form of those who went to the rally. But with the beginning of the “color revolution”, it is the law-enforcers and the special services who will be the first to fight the destroyers of the country - let us remember the Ukrainian “Berkut” and the Vilnius OMON. And the security forces will need strong moral support. When organizing mass events, true patriots of Russia are obliged to take maximum measures in order to prevent violations of the law and, moreover, clashes with employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian Guard. The speeches should not be aimed at exaltation of the audience, but clarify the situation in the country, show the true enemies preparing the “color revolution” and the civil war, substantiate the role of patriots and military, special services and law enforcement officers in preserving the country.

In the ideological vacuum prevailing in Russia, only educational work is important. The current liberal course has shown a complete futility. The government lacks any viable model of prospective social construction. Therefore, the development and presentation to society of a scientifically based concept of the future, optimized to ensure maximum efficiency of life and social justice in the 6-th technological order, will give an advantage to the patriotic opposition. And this is a key condition for winning political dominance.

Special attention should be paid to the youth, because, as the experience of Ukraine shows, it is she who, with competent propaganda, becomes the main destructive tool. The emphasis is on the choice to be made. Or remain powerless and poor servants of oligarchs, their sons and daughters without any prospects for a better share. Or to be citizens of a strong and equitable state, where success is determined by personal merit, and not kinship or clan ties, to be able to independently determine their own destiny.

To ease ethnic tensions, it is important to emphasize that the enemy of a young man is not a Tajik with a broom, but a “reformer” who appropriated national wealth, a high-ranking corrupt official and politicians supporting him, regardless of their origin. To counter the liberal revenge, the so-called information avant-garde is effective. That is, setting requirements for which the authorities are not yet ready to go, but may agree in the near future due to objective necessity. At the same time, positive steps by the government should receive support in the patriotic media. This will contribute to the formation of the objectivity of the "new red".

Guarding the nuclear button

The officer corps, law enforcement officers are in state and military service and, in accordance with Russian legislation, cannot be involved in political parties and movements. This is correct: command orders must be carried out without adjusting for personal predilections, otherwise the security of the country will not be ensured. Particularly clear actions will be required in conditions of internal instability. However, the situation will change radically in the event of the victory of the “color revolution” and the more so the beginning of the civil war. The power that arose as a result of the coup d'etat will be illegal, even if the liberal fronde surrounds this matter as a voluntary transfer of powers to its protégés. At the same time, alternative political centers will emerge that claim to lead the country. Among them will be a consolidated real patriotic opposition - the “new red”. In the current situation, officers, security services and law enforcement officers will have to make a choice: to go for any political group, join the struggle (to submit to the junta that seized power will be no more legal than to take the side of the patriotic opposition), or lie down on the bottom, refuse to participate in the events. The second option seems very doubtful and extremely dangerous. A trained officer or other military is a valuable resource in a political struggle, so the warring parties will seek to draw these people to themselves. And with the refusal of a high risk of violence, so that the choice is inevitable. But people of this category, of course, intelligent and perspicacious, should pay special attention to the essence of the programs, remember history political ideas and leaders. In particular, how did the introduction of the free market and the embedding of our country into the world community, on whose legacy Russia has been holding for more than a quarter century, have completed, which made it possible to accomplish the full industrialization impossible in 30-s, without which Victory in the Great Patriotic War would hardly have been gained? the war. It is useful to compare the successes of the Soviet government in 26 years - from 1924 to 1950 and liberal - from 1991 to 2017.

However, it is not enough to make the right political choice. The main purpose of the officer after the seizure of power by the liberal junta will be to take all measures available to him to preserve the integrity and viability of the RF Armed Forces, primarily the Strategic Nuclear Forces. There is an example of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria and others who have been subjected to Western aggression, demonstrating to everyone what happens to countries with insufficient military capabilities for protection. In this case, the first who will be destroyed by the occupiers, will be the officers. The Americans drew the appropriate conclusions from the fact that after the defeat of Iraq, it was the surviving soldiers from Saddam Hussein’s army who formed the basis of national resistance.
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  1. Normal ok
    Normal ok 22 October 2017 15: 58 New
    +7
    About two months ago there was the same article (maybe this one). Why retype again?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 22 October 2017 17: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: Normal ok
      About two months ago there was the same article (maybe this one). Why retype again?

      no less funny ... K. Sivkov, well, it's not yours ... do not write! at all! poison your grandmothers at the entrance! Well, you can’t do that .... you have a mixture of Prokhanov, with Nadezhda-Isaevo-Sytin ... that is: govnosmes ...
      1. creak
        creak 23 October 2017 12: 02 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        K. Sivkov, well, this is not yours ... do not write! at all! poison your grandmothers at the entrance! Well, you can’t do that .... you have a mixture of Prokhanov, with Nadezhda-Isaevo-Sytin ... that is: govnosmes ...

        The crisis of the genre, to put it mildly ....
    2. iouris
      iouris 24 October 2017 01: 40 New
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      Quote: Normal ok
      Why retype again?

      This is a bad sign. The idea takes possession of the masses according to the principle: 1) This cannot be, 2) There is something in this, 3) This is obvious. Now is the second stage.
  2. Oden280
    Oden280 22 October 2017 16: 01 New
    +6
    In the event of a successful liberal coup there will be no sweat. Our country is first torn into as many pieces as possible. Something the neighbors will pick up for themselves, and the rest will be pitted against each other in the struggle for survival. So we will destroy each other to the joy of the west.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 22 October 2017 16: 09 New
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      In the event of a successful liberal coup
      Why should they turn themselves over?
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 22 October 2017 16: 51 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        In the event of a successful liberal coup
        Why should they turn themselves over?

        But because the ruling "liberal elite" split into two groups.
        - One group, led by Putin after 2007, realized that it’s not enough to “earn overwork” ( lol ), it is necessary to save this "earned". Then she began to strengthen the army and offer the rest of her “roof” under the guise of an “amnesty of capital”.
        - Another group, which is too integrated into the "Western economy", transferring there a significant part of its assets, suddenly found that their capital was in jeopardy. And in order to save at least part of this money, they are given the condition to displace the first, "conditionally patriotic," which at this stage has become an obstacle to universal "globalization."
        IMHO.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 22 October 2017 19: 33 New
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          IMHO.
          I agree, but the former do not defend Russia, but the loot and the very ability to rob.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 24 October 2017 19: 33 New
            +3
            but they present it as a defense of the motherland
      2. Per se.
        Per se. 22 October 2017 16: 57 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Why should they turn themselves over?
        Here, precisely, why, in power unless the "new red"? If we talk about a military coup, it should not be a mediocre clownery under the “GKChP”, but a quiet and effective work, a sort of “super Crimea” in the scale of the capital and the headquarters of military districts, fleets. To do this, you need to have a talented and authoritative general (or "real colonel", according to a "cunning plan"), plus the support of the people (which, most likely, will be). In any case, without withdrawing from dependence on the West, without reviving the independent power pole in the renewed socialism, Russia has rather dubious prospects as soon as we finally pass the Soviet safety margin.
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 22 October 2017 19: 53 New
          +6
          Quote: Per se.
          In any case, without getting out of dependence on the West, without reviving an independent pole of power in renewed socialism, Russia has very dubious prospects as soon as we have finished eating out the Soviet margin of safety


          Briefly ... in the case ... substantively ... and, most importantly - really and truthfully ... hi
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 23 October 2017 08: 20 New
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            Putin came to power after the Yeltsin elite was formed and strengthened. He came to a ruined country with a liberal apparatus. Colony country: what some stubbornly don't want to think about
      3. your1970
        your1970 27 October 2017 08: 25 New
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        Any civil war requires a global idea, there is NO such idea. You can dream about socialism - only the bulk of the people do not think about it ...
        The civil war of 1918 occurred due to the fact that: a) the bulk of the population was residents of the village (now the urban population is much higher, but the urban population always has something to lose), b) the bulk was subjugated by the idea of ​​dividing the land (global idea !!!). None of political parties, she didn’t propose anything now - what would have gone for at least 60% of the population - at that time the village was ready to die for land. Hand on heart - is someone ready right now because of a computer to go to death for the sake of an idea? Well, well ...
        c) the presence of a large mass of embittered people is mandatory - if you forget, I recall:
        “So, during the year, starting in October 1905, 3611 government officials were killed and wounded in the Russian Empire. By the end of 1907, this number increased to almost 4500. Together with 2180 killed and 2530 wounded individuals, the total number of victims in 1905 -1907, Geifman estimates the number of more 9000 person. According to official statistics, from January 1908 to mid-May 1910 19957 terrorist acts and expropriations, as a result of which 732 government officials and 3051 private individuals were killed, while 1022 government officials and 2829 private individuals were injured. "- and this is an indicator that the population HATED this power. Given the size of the state apparatus at that time, these numbers mean that almost EVERY official (a little higher than the lowest) was an assassination attempt.
        d) the power should disintegrate before our eyes, like in the USSR in 1991 or in Ukraine, for example, Yanukovych. He didn’t give the order to shoot, not because he was compassionate / conscientious - but because he understood that they would NOT FULFILL .... When ordinary citizens kick tankers with heads (as in 1991) is not a military coup is the complete impotence of power ....
        It was also in the USSR in 1991 - power paralysis, and after 2 years only in 1993 the paralysis ended, it must be necessary - they drove the tanks to Moscow, shot, and both sides immediately realized that everything was real ...
        ZY A sluggish war in Ukraine ... It is not a civil war, there is no general idea - it is against Russia, albeit in a somewhat veiled form.
  3. groks
    groks 22 October 2017 16: 41 New
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    A liberal coup in Russia is impossible. Since all liberals are already in power. Not to understand this is silly and ridiculous.
    But this is probably something else. Now they call themselves EdRosa patriots, and everyone else is immediately stigmatized. The clearest example is Oleg Makarenko (Fritz Moiseevich Morgenstern).
    1. free
      free 22 October 2017 22: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: groks
      A liberal coup in Russia is impossible. Since all liberals are already in power. Not to understand this is silly and ridiculous.
      But this is probably something else. Now they call themselves EdRosa patriots, and everyone else is immediately stigmatized. The clearest example is Oleg Makarenko (Fritz Moiseevich Morgenstern).

      And why is Fritz Moiseevich Morgenstern encrypted under Oleg Makarenko? laughing
      1. groks
        groks 23 October 2017 08: 14 New
        +1
        So you don’t know Fritz ?! I advise you to read it LJ.
  4. Doliva63
    Doliva63 22 October 2017 17: 23 New
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    "Second civilian" if it will, then very soon. You don’t even have to bother. "New Reds" today is finally! laughing What will they protect now? Right, freshly obtained apartments, a stable salary and a good retirement at 45. Weak for the Reds, in my opinion. I don’t take Kvachkov and Khabarov, they grew up at the time of other values ​​(that's why they probably sit).
  5. Radikal
    Radikal 22 October 2017 17: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Freeman
    Quote: Gardamir
    In the event of a successful liberal coup
    Why should they turn themselves over?

    But because the ruling "liberal elite" split into two groups.
    - One group, led by Putin after 2007, realized that it’s not enough to “earn overwork” ( lol ), it is necessary to save this "earned". Then she began to strengthen the army and offer the rest of her “roof” under the guise of an “amnesty of capital”.
    - Another group, which is too integrated into the "Western economy", transferring there a significant part of its assets, suddenly found that their capital was in jeopardy. And in order to save at least part of this money, they are given the condition to displace the first, "conditionally patriotic," which at this stage has become an obstacle to universal "globalization."
    IMHO.

    good soldier
  6. Radikal
    Radikal 22 October 2017 17: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: Doliva63
    "Second civilian" if it will, then very soon. You don’t even have to bother. "New Reds" today is finally! laughing What will they protect now? Right, freshly obtained apartments, a stable salary and a good retirement at 45. Weak for the Reds, in my opinion. I don’t take Kvachkov and Khabarov, they grew up at the time of other values ​​(that's why they probably sit).

    Among a certain part (let’s not specify what) the officer corps, such a situation takes place. Unfortunately... sad
  7. captain
    captain 22 October 2017 17: 31 New
    +5
    Why escalate public opinion? If new red ones come, then at the next division again there will not be enough for everyone and everything will be new. They will start looking for enemies again, they will drive the unwanted (or hang and shoot), they will drive out all the unwanted (who do not have time to run away on their own), the little coin is small (the former red ones have stolen him abroad, we still cannot find it). By the way, thanks to the Tsar’s and Church’s gold coin, they lasted almost 75 years. The new Lenin (apparently Navalny Lesha, a fighter against corruption) has not yet received sufficient recognition among the mass of dissatisfied, but he is already beginning a test of strength. Peasants are few and far too many people want to plow land, what is the slogan of the new Reds? Earth to the people? The people no longer need it, and he will not believe it anymore in red, they have deceived more than once. All liberals, former communists or children of Leninists. Chubais, son of the colonel of a political worker (dad is the head of the department of Marxism-Leninism), Gaidar was the editor of the journal "Communist" and the son of a political worker of the admiral, Medvedev the son of a teacher of Marxism-Leninism, etc. Gorbachev in Europe, the children and granddaughters of all the general secretaries live in countries of decaying capitalism, what kind of cancer will go to fight for the new Reds? Why go to war for new partocrats who will take everything from the old and everything will start from the beginning? Do the Americans bring oligarchs to us? Or the Germans? Who gave them (the oligarchs) the opportunity to rob our country? Let's tell the truth at least once; the top of the CPSU. With all due respect to Mr. Sivkov, I do not believe that people like him will send their sons to the forefront of the attackers. So his program document is only for electronic media and naturally for exalted girls whose suffering will spit out on the pages of VO,
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 22 October 2017 18: 17 New
      +3
      what d ... cancer will go to war for the new reds?

      You underestimate the power of the media. As they say on TV, so will most think. And the media will come up with something, an example of Ukraine in person.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 22 October 2017 20: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: glory1974
        You underestimate the power of the media. As they say on TV, so will most think.


        The captain asked: “Which one will go to FIGHT for the new reds?” ...
        Thinking about something after the TV show and really going to fight, kill or be killed are two different things ...
        PS Although young growth, as always and everywhere, may be enthralled on this matter (on this harlot of the purest water) ...
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 22 October 2017 20: 30 New
          +5
          Thinking about something after the TV show and really going to fight, kill or be killed are two different things ...

          I’m saying that after appropriate processing by the media, everyone will go to fight for the reds, blues and greens (you can put it at your discretion). And after the first blood, you won’t stop everything. Full of examples.
          Although young animals, as always and everywhere, may even be led to this matter (to this harlot of the purest water)

          and there’s no difference: young, old, man or woman. Look at the reports from Ukraine, Vanya Ivanov from Donbass is fighting against Vanya Ivanov from Kiev, both speak the same language, you can’t tell from the photo, but one is Moskal, the other " Ukrainian ". With what both from Ancient Russia, etc. In my opinion this is the aerobatics of manipulating consciousness. We used to think that we could share and fight on religious grounds, political addictions, etc.
          and now it turns out you can appoint an enemy on TV and the job is done.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 22 October 2017 19: 09 New
      0
      Captain Today, 17: 31
      ... there’s not enough gold coin (the former Reds stole it abroad, we still can’t find it).

      And why should he (the "little gold") look for? You write yourself -
      Do the Americans bring oligarchs to us? Or the Germans? Who gave them (the oligarchs) the opportunity to rob our country? Let's tell the truth at least once; the top of the CPSU.

      Well, the way the Komsomol granddaughters “threw” older comrades -
    3. MrK
      MrK 22 October 2017 23: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: captain
      Why escalate public opinion? If new red ones come, then at the next division again there will not be enough for everyone and everything will be new
      .

      Yeah. And the eternal w. will go around again. That is, nothing needs to be done. Let it continue to rot further.
      What common people do not come up with in order to justify their laziness and cowardice. On any proposal to change the existing world order, without even having an objection in essence, they drag out the same song: no one will risk his booty for the common good, there are no leaders, nothing will come of it, because even if it works out, the new revolutionary elite will quickly decay, vulgarize, seize and push everything.
      On this basis, they conclude that it’s better to push the current elite into a jerk, all the more so since the current descent takes place in a pleasant, glamorous atmosphere with the full approval of the world behind the scenes.

    4. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 25 October 2017 10: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: captain
      By the way, thanks to the Tsar’s and church’s gold coin, they lasted almost 75 years.

      The monarchist cannot but lie.
      Quote: captain
      Who gave them (the oligarchs) the opportunity to rob our country? Let's tell the truth at least once; the top of the CPSU.

      Only through a false hypocritical monarchist can they be called communists.
      Quote: captain
      The new Lenin (apparently Navalny Lesha, a fighter against corruption) has not yet received sufficient recognition among the mass of dissatisfied, but is already starting a test of strength.

      This sad clown is akin to you monarchists. To Lenin he’s like to the moon on foot.
      Quote: captain
      There are few peasants now and there is no enormous quantity of land to plow; Earth to the people?

      If you have one crinkle and that cap is rubbed, then this does not mean that others are just as sad.
      Quote: captain
      The people no longer need it, and he will not believe it anymore in red, they have deceived more than once.

      But let’s decide the people what he wants and where to go, and not the dull clowns of the monarchists. And she did not deceive anyone with the current government? All honest as one, do not sleep at night and think about the people? Ready to give the last shirt if only the people were happy. Yeah, how do you hold your pocket wider.
    5. turbris
      turbris 25 October 2017 11: 57 New
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      Of course, I don’t understand why you respect Mr. Sivkov, but according to your theory, all those who were associated with the CPSU should be devoted to defamation. The political bureau and the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union are primarily responsible for the collapse of the USSR, betrayal took place and they betrayed primarily those party members who believed in a bright future, just as the nobility betrayed the tsar in 1917. According to your theory, modern leaders should be sons of whom? The workers and peasants, as we have already passed, liberals who seem to have fought against the CPSU, since they were already in power under Yeltsin with terrible consequences. No matter whose sons they are, it is important that these people cheer for the state and people, and not for their own pockets.
    6. Pancir026
      Pancir026 26 October 2017 11: 16 New
      0
      Quote: captain
      Why escalate public opinion? If new red ones come, then at the next division again there will not be enough for everyone and everything will be new. They will start looking for enemies again, they will drive the unwanted (or hang and shoot), they will drive out all the unwanted (who do not have time to run away on their own), the little coin is small (the former reds have stolen him abroad, we still cannot find it).

      What, it became scary. What kind of nonsense are you writing again?
      In which country are your dog-dogs different and other Reyelhaus with silver coins? Are you really sure that you and your kind are valuable to the country?
      Quote: captain
      By the way, thanks to the Tsar’s and church’s gold coin, they lasted almost 75 years

      Frank talk. It has little reality. It’s from the category of perestroika agony, that denationalization and privatization is the return of property, they really didn’t say. It’s real that property. That allegedly was illegally taken away at 17, hardly about, 2% and everything else was done by labor Soviet people and you assigned.

      Quote: captain
      New Lenin (apparently Navalny Lesha, a fighter against corruption)

      Are you raving? In what inflamed imagination can one equate a bulk thief with two criminal articles and a man whose genius is recognized in the world? However, this is not possible among liberal talkers.
      Quote: captain
      Chubais, son of the colonel of a political worker (dad is the head of the department of Marxism-Leninism), Gaidar was the editor of the journal "Communist" and the son of a political worker of the admiral, Medvedev the son of a teacher of Marxism-Leninism, etc.

      These are yours. Why are you disowning those you serve?
      Quote: captain
      Why go to war for new partocrats who will take everything from the old and everything will start from the beginning? Do the Americans bring oligarchs to us? Or the Germans? Who gave them (the oligarchs) the opportunity to rob our country?

      How who? You, it was you, when at 90 you sold Gorbachev’s country for the bush’s legs and promises. You forgot if you had a party card in your pocket and immediately threw it away. Once you sensed the “wind of change” with a blowing mercaptan of decomposition, but for you he was like violet ..
      Quote: captain
      Let's tell the truth at least once; the top of the CPSU.

      About how, well, then go on to negotiate the highest nomenclature, intelligentsia and crime, the promises of which you believed, it was you who, despite the warnings, believed and eventually demolished the country, and now bring down your own blame on others.
      Quote: captain
      With all due respect to Mr. Sivkov, I do not believe that people like him will send their sons to the forefront of the attackers.

      Well, we’ll not be able to evade you in the midst of the attackers. Your sofa has long been replaced by an armored personnel carrier, and the keyboard of the computer is automatic, though along with this there have been other changes in your thinking apparatus, since you don’t understand what Sivkov writes about.
      Quote: captain
      whose suffering spit out on the pages of VO,

      Continue to suffer further - splashing out into VO your complexes, betraying times and doomed to betray constantly.
  8. zoolu350
    zoolu350 22 October 2017 18: 47 New
    +8
    Many true ideas, but the main thing is not said. Liberals like Navalny, Gozman, Sytin, etc. are not a 5th column, but rather a nearby group, the 5th column is in the Kremlin and it is called the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.
  9. weksha50
    weksha50 22 October 2017 19: 50 New
    +2
    "A trained officer or other military is a valuable resource in the political struggle, so the warring parties will seek to draw these people to themselves."....

    Hmm ... The farther into the forest, the worse the partisans ... They began to realize that a 2nd civilian is also possible ...
    Here I, as a retired personnel officer, considered and still consider General Rokhlin and Colonel Kvachkov as patriots of Russia and their people ...
    Well - what has the power done to them ??? Just don’t tell me that Rokhlin’s wife shot him - it’s not even funny ...
    And anyway ... In anticipation of a civil war - the article looks like .. baby talk ... hi soldier
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 22 October 2017 22: 38 New
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      As a cadre to cadre-based, ideology (religious, political, not important) should be at the heart of a serious civil war, but in our opinion, it is prohibited. So the maximum is gang warfare between clans inside the Moscow Ring Road. But seriously, I do not see any prerequisites. Unless someone probes the soil, how far we can all be drawn into their disassembly.
      1. MrK
        MrK 22 October 2017 23: 34 New
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        Quote: Doliva63
        As a personnel cadre

        The revolution in the country (real. And not orange, like ukrov) does not always lead to civil war. The civil in Russia began with the rebellion of the white whites and further intervention.
        1. captain
          captain 23 October 2017 09: 27 New
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          Yeah, the Czechs came up with raskachachivanie and thereby pushed the Cossacks to support the whites. The Czechs are so bad. Forgot to add; the interventionists are also bad, the train with gold thrown by Kolchak was guarded by the Hungarian battalion of internationalists, under the command of Mate Zalka (the famous general Lukacs). And how many international regiments and brigades of Austrians, Serbs, Magyars and other dishonesty, which, having typed a gold coin, returned to her homeland!
          1. long in stock.
            long in stock. 24 October 2017 10: 48 New
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            Well, of course, representatives of the French military mission didn’t come to the Czechs together with Savinkov .. about telling the story to those Cossacks who supported the Reds. And you can ask the same Czechs about gold. Well, ask the Japanese who brought gold from the city bank from Vladivostok ... everyone is looking for party gold and can not find it. but because there is nothing to look for .. well, let's .. fantasize further ...
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 23 October 2017 10: 09 New
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          Quote: mrark
          The revolution in the country (real. And not orange, like ukrov) does not always lead to civil war. The civil in Russia began with the rebellion of the white whites and further intervention.

          It began yes, but the impetus, the true spring of the war, was not white-collar. When they talk about the Czechs, it means that this was the first open confrontation, but the Czechs had reasons and motives that were not at all those along which the main historical thread of the war developed further. Just the Czechs were already organized and armed. And the volunteer army and Kolchak were still preparing at that time. But they would still have prepared sooner or later. Because they already had intentions for an irreconcilable struggle with the Bolsheviks, they had simply not yet taken shape in practical actions by that time.
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  13. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 22 October 2017 23: 13 New
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    Quote: Freeman
    ruling "liberal elite" split into two groups

    And which of them should honest officers defend at the cost of their own lives?
    This question will be steeper than the famous one: Vasily Ivanovich, are you for the Bolsheviks or for the Communists?
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 23 October 2017 01: 23 New
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      Quote: kunstkammer
      Quote: Freeman
      ruling "liberal elite" split into two groups

      And which of them should honest officers defend at the cost of their own lives?
      This question will be steeper than the famous one: Vasily Ivanovich, are you for the Bolsheviks or for the Communists?

      I would like to know the answer to this question myself - Who do you want to protect? !!

      The situation as in the 93rd. - And those enemies, and those are not ours ...
      And Minin with Pozharsky on the horizon can not see ...
      Colonel Turbin (from the film) made the choice even easier - not to fall between the millstones of the opposing forces of the “white” and “Ukrainian nationalists”, to save the lives of the Russian people entrusted to him.
  14. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 23 October 2017 00: 35 New
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    Quote: Doliva63
    gang warfare between clans inside the MKAD

    That's for sure! The only addition: it will be with the participation of the tanks of the Kantemirov division with officer crews. And what? The "patriotic" officers already have experience - according to the legally elected patriotic Supreme Council in 93, they were shot to an excellent mark, as in a dash ... 30 pieces of silver earned honestly.
  15. tasha
    tasha 23 October 2017 04: 22 New
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    The author poured water, hung labels ....
    That would take and write an article with a possible scenario of the outbreak of the civil war in Russia. This analysis and he himself would have become clear ...
  16. olegdj
    olegdj 23 October 2017 20: 27 New
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    And you can offer people tired of poverty something instead of red flags and clanking caterpillars. The Communists sold us in the 91st year, and all this GKChP with all these Khasbulat Rutskis is just the quintessence of helplessness, weakness, brainlessness, deceit, betrayal.
  17. turbris
    turbris 23 October 2017 20: 40 New
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    Sivkov is a provocateur and it is not for him to talk about patriotism. Do not try to cling to the power structures, Mr. "revolutionary," we have already gone through all this - we are on the barricades, and you are in power for money.
  18. iouris
    iouris 24 October 2017 01: 36 New
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    Dear author, wishful thinking. "Law enforcement officers" refer to different corporations, and the system of these corporations is built and is developing on the principle of "checks and balances." Already 1991 and (especially) 1993 showed that these structures, in principle, can act on different sides, since their leaders will compete for power and resources. The leaders of these power structures have already made “civil choice” for officers. And there is still a bunch of private paramilitary units under the roofs of security structures. In short, it all depends on only one person, as it decides, it will be so.
  19. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 24 October 2017 09: 42 New
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    What kind of "civilian choice for officers" can we talk about if we (who passed the liberal reforms of the 90s) were already made a quarter of a century ago, when a gang of traitors to the Motherland destroyed the Army and tore into parts of the USSR. I think that the majority This time, Russian officers and reserve and retired officers will not succumb to the "ravings" of the liberals, and when we try to make a coup, we all defend Russia as one! In my opinion, the article was reprinted only in order to “probe” our opinion and our reaction to any attempt at a coup and Russia's sale by liberals, so let the villains know that we got the vaccine against liberalism in the mean 90s and only dream about how to break the ridge of "liberals" of all stripes! I ask you not to find fault with my words about Russian officers, for me Russian officers are all who served and serve the Homeland-Russia and their nationality is not important to me, because in spirit and education they are RUSSIAN OFFICERS!
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      1. turbris
        turbris 26 October 2017 10: 33 New
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        Sorry for the indiscreet question of Monster_Fat, do you have a state flag for disguise on your avatar or is it from there that you worry about the patriots of Russia?
  20. your1970
    your1970 27 October 2017 08: 31 New
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    Quote: captain
    By the way, thanks to the Tsar’s and church’s gold coin, they lasted almost 75 years.
    - gold mining in the USSR significantly exceeded the volumes of tsarist and church gold. Tsarist gold spread to almost the 20s (Kolchak, Czechs, Germans) - church after the famine in the Volga region and industrialization ...