Assad: the defeat of terrorists in Syria, a blow to the plans of the West

Syrian President Bashar Assad received on Thursday in Damascus Chief of Staff of the Iranian Army Mohammad Baker. As reported by SANA, the Iranian military leader conveyed to him a message from the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ali Khamenei, in which he congratulated Syria and its people "on victories in the war against terrorism."

Assad said at the meeting that "the defeat of terrorists in Syria dealt a crushing blow to the plans of the West throughout the Middle East." At the same time, he noted that "a number of states continue to provide assistance to terrorist groups."

As the president stressed, "military partnership with Iran and other allies has received a qualitatively new development over the years of the conflict."
According to SANA, the Iranian general said at the meeting that "the purpose of his visit to Damascus is to develop a joint strategy for coordination and military-technical cooperation with Syria at a new stage - after the great successes achieved at the front," reports TASS

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[Herculesic]

There is still a long way to complete victory, for even in the liberated territories of the militants are thousands, there are such gaps between the army that the tank regiment will go unnoticed!

[Logall]

And air reconnaissance for what?
Syria and Iran –from the first class together, and for everything they do they will be responsible together! And in all this, their Russian VKS cover up! The brigade ...

[Herculesic]

Logall Alexander -when 2 times the Ishilovites took Palmyra, did air reconnaissance somehow stop this? It’s not enough to take the territory back, they need to be cleaned immediately from the militants, and if there are corridors from Iraq to Syria along which the Ishilovites are in crowds, if there are gaps between the parts, the aircraft does not always have time in time!

[Logall]

So then there were more centers of clashes. Now they stopped fighting in many zones of de-escalation ... Parts redirected.
And when they took the palms of igil, the Syrian army received an order to retreat, because it was clear how many of them and where they were going ... There was no option to fight back. Now the parts are assembled into a fist ...
We saw everything, but the resources did not allow ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Logall

in all this, their Russian VKS cover it! The brigade ...

[79807420129]

Assad said at the meeting that "the defeat of terrorists in Syria dealt a crushing blow to the plans of the West in the entire Middle East

It’s still far from the victory, the main battles are ahead, the mattresses have already been spread out fingers that they defeated ISIS and An Nusra, Turkey, too, is not averse to enjoying the territory of Syria.

[Komsomol]

You need to get out of there, the sooner the better. You’ll figure it out yourself.

[Herculesic]

Komsomol -You are there for happiness, and I’m not close, but it’s not up to you to make decisions about our fighters! !

[Komsomol]

Yes, you didn’t grind it with your own broom, Emelya, “it’s not your week! I, unlike hollow bells, like you, would be useful there — not my war.”

[Herculesic]

Komsomol watch your broomstick, blatota! And about the chime, this is just about you! !

[Partyzan]

Quote: Komsomol

Yes, you didn’t grind it with your own broom, Emelya, “it’s not your week! I, unlike hollow bells, like you, would be useful there — not my war.”

[Dart2027]

Quote: Komsomol

I, unlike hollow bells, like you, would be useful there, not my war is simple.

Somewhere I already heard it ... From Gorbachev ...

[Victor-M]

Quote: Komsomol

Yes, you don’t grind with your broom, Emelya, -not your week!I, unlike hollow bells, like you, would be useful there, not my war, just.

There and besides you * shit enough, in the form of your bearded daishovskih scumbags.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Komsomol

It would be useful there, not my war is simple.

who did you give up with such an ideology !!! or would you join the igilas, but not your war on their side yet ????

[Pirogov]

Quote: Komsomol

You need to get out of there, the sooner the better. You’ll figure it out yourself.

Yes, America itself will quickly figure it out and will not say thanks.

[Victor-M]

Quote: Komsomol

You need to get out of there, the sooner the better. You’ll figure it out yourself.

So bring down, do not bother people to seek out evil.

[Partyzan]

Quote: 79807420129

, mattresses have already spread their fingers now that they defeated ISIS and en Nusra,

[DEPARTMENT]

Assad said at the meeting that "the defeat of terrorists in Syria has dealt a crushing blow to the plans of the West in the entire Middle East."

Well, the United States is far away, but Israel’s plans for complete control of the BV and the impunity of pirate bombing .. collapsed! Iran is gaining strength, and soon Syria will recover ..
Great job men!
Hold on Assad! I think there will be numerous attempts to eliminate Assad! (they will not spare money ..)
I would not advise this to the "partners" ..

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Well, the United States is far away, but Israel’s plans for complete control of the BV and the impunity of pirate bombing .. collapsed! Iran is gaining strength, and soon Syria will recover ..
Great job men ...

Vitaly, how scary you are to live. And all from the fact that for you the main thing is to cut something and it does not matter whether it is meaningful or not. How do you imagine Israeli control over the Arab countries? Have you ever looked in the atlas?
PS Here's another topic for you to spit on Israel.

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[Bakht]

Just for the sake of curiosity. If Assad is seated in a chair (and this is coming) and peace will come in Syria, what will this mean for Israel?
Do not think that I am fixated on Israel. Just wondering. In my opinion, this will mean the defeat of Israel. For the simple reason that the result of all this mess was an even closer rapprochement between Iran and Syria. And Hezbollah’s gain.
If you recall the old joke, then Israel can turn into Isik. In the geopolitical sense. Jews will have to harness directly to ISIS.
Until 2014, Assad pursued a more independent policy. Now Iran’s influence has increased greatly in this region. Israel made huge mistakes. Supported by ISIS and Kurdistan. Of course, nothing threatens Israel itself, but its influence on the region has greatly diminished.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

Just for the sake of curiosity. If Assad is seated in a chair (and this is coming) and peace will come in Syria, what will this mean for Israel?
Do not think that I am fixated on Israel. Just wondering. In my opinion, this will mean the defeat of Israel. For the simple reason that the result of all this mess was an even closer rapprochement between Iran and Syria. And Hezbollah’s gain.
If you recall the old joke, then Israel can turn into Isik. In the geopolitical sense. Jews will have to harness directly to ISIS.
Until 2014, Assad pursued a more independent policy. Now Iran’s influence has increased greatly in this region. Israel made huge mistakes. Supported by ISIS and Kurdistan. Of course, nothing threatens Israel itself, but its influence on the region has greatly diminished.

In my opinion, nothing will change. Syria and Iran have been in close contact since the mid-19th century, when Assad put his father on Shiites in Lebanon. Hezbollah is today Lebanon. So it’s even easier for us. In the event of a conflict, one should not think about who, what, what. If Lebanon starts a war, it will be full. Assad never pursued an independent policy towards Iran. Rather, the emergence of Russian bases will allow him to breathe more freely in negotiations with Iran.
Idrail never supported ISIS. This is propaganda. For belonging to this organization, even virtually, they put us in jail, and we destroy the Egyptian Ishilites with the full approval of the Egyptian army regularly in the Sinai.
Israel has never had any influence in the region. There was a force of deterrence, and it remained.

[Bakht]

All would be well. But here is "propangondism." For this and get ...
Israel from the very beginning would be on the side of ISIS. Israel from the very beginning helped in the destruction of the Middle East and fished in muddy waters.
But the problem is completely different. Intentions and result. Obama was criticized for his efforts to bring Russia and China closer. Although the intentions were completely different. Tel Aviv was wrong about the same. By his actions he brought Damascus and Tehran closer. And strengthened Hezbola. Although the intentions were completely different.
But I was just interested in the result of Assad's victory. Apart from propaganda, I have not heard anything.
PS By the way, have you already learned the materiel? What denomination do the Druze belong to?
PPS And watch your tongue.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

All would be well. But here is "propangondism." For this and get ...
Israel from the very beginning would be on the side of ISIS. Israel from the very beginning helped in the destruction of the Middle East and fished in muddy waters.
But the problem is completely different. Intentions and result. Obama was criticized for his efforts to bring Russia and China closer. Although the intentions were completely different. Tel Aviv was wrong about the same. By his actions he brought Damascus and Tehran closer. And strengthened Hezbola. Although the intentions were completely different.
But I was just interested in the result of Assad's victory. Apart from propaganda, I have not heard anything.
PS By the way, have you already learned the materiel? What denomination do the Druze belong to?
PPS And watch your tongue.

What do I mean? I’m bored of refuting the cliches stuck in your head. Today you believe that Israel supported ISIS and somehow influenced the situation in Arab societies, and tomorrow you will believe in reptilians that I must fight this?
Jerusalem could not bring Tehran and Damascus closer because they have been strategic allies for 40 years. Syria is the only Arab country to support Iran during the Iran-Iraq war.
In the cham, Hezbollah’s strengthening was expressed, I did not understand.
Assad’s victory for Israel is not bad at all. Much better than victory, for example, pro-Western forces.
Druze is a separate religion formed on the basis of Ismailism in the 13 century.

[Bakht]

First about the Druze. Druze in Syria call themselves Muslims. And the mention of Allah there is quite acceptable. So you know the match poorly.
You do not know the position of Israel at all
Do you know a man like Moshe Yaalon? It’s quite the official Minister of Defense of Israel until the 2016 year: "Israel has common interests with regional Sunni forceswho were also threatened by Shiite Iran. "And he said that ISIS is preferable to Assad.
Have you heard of Herzi Halevi? It’s quite the current head of Israeli military intelligence. He said that Israel will have to openly support ISIS.
Well, messages began to appear on the militants' warehouses of Israeli weapons.
And the situation in the Golan Heights with the direct support of ISIS fell into the UN report. Only the lazy did not quote.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

First about the Druze. Druze in Syria call themselves Muslims. And the mention of Allah there is quite acceptable. So you know the match poorly.
You do not know the position of Israel at all
Do you know a man like Moshe Yaalon? It’s quite the official Minister of Defense of Israel until the 2016 year: "Israel has common interests with regional Sunni forceswho were also threatened by Shiite Iran. "And he said that ISIS is preferable to Assad.
Have you heard of Herzi Halevi? It’s quite the current head of Israeli military intelligence. He said that Israel will have to openly support ISIS.
Well, messages began to appear on the militants' warehouses of Israeli weapons.
And the situation in the Golan Heights with the direct support of ISIS fell into the UN report. Only the lazy did not quote.

Dhups cannot be Muslims. Druze who became a Muslim ceases to be a druze. This is an axiom.
Neither Moshe Yaalon nor Herzi haLevi spoke of ISIS support or that they are preferable to Assad, and that gangs of Igishites on carts are less dangerous for Israel than Assad’s missile arsenal.
Rumors, as they were, remained rumors. For some reason, the Syrians do not present these depots, and what a trump card in propaganda.
Reread the UN report, there is no word about ISIS.

[Bakht]

They talked. They just said. I quoted a quote.
This is a common misfortune to know all the forums. For some reason they believe that since they live in the country, they know the situation better than anyone else. But this is not so. Both in Ukraine, both in Azerbaijan and in Israel, the majority do not see the REAL state of things.
In the distance it is seen better. From the first day of the conflict in Syria, I was convinced that this was salvation for Israel. The collapse of Syria solves many of Israel’s strategic objectives. But only if Syria is divided. Otherwise, the quote is either Talleyrand or Napoleon "This is worse than a crime. This is a mistake"
The UN report says Israeli military ties with Nusra. And this is a direct branch of ISIS.
About the Druze is yesterday's story. Druze profess a particular religion, but they are Muslims. Their religion came out of Shiism. In the same way, Catholics claimed (and some still claim) that the Orthodox are not Christians. Different branches, directions, sects. But they are Muslims. Although some ulema say "only Allah knows the truth" This was said about the Druze.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

They talked. They just said. I quoted a quote.

This is not a quote, but your free interpretation. I listened to both Hebrew appearances on TV.

In the distance it is seen better. From the first day of the conflict in Syria, I was convinced that this was salvation for Israel. The collapse of Syria solves many of Israel’s strategic objectives. But only if Syria is divided. Otherwise, the quote is either Talleyrand or Napoleon "This is worse than a crime. This is a mistake"

this is your point of view. I believe that worse than a victory of pro-Western forces in Syria for Israel would be the transformation of this territory into a wild field.

The UN report says Israeli military ties with Nusra. And this is a direct branch of ISIS.

I am funny and you still write on the topic of BV? Learn the materiel.

About the Druze is yesterday's story. Druze profess a particular religion, but they are Muslims. Their religion came out of Shiism. In the same way, Catholics claimed (and some still claim) that the Orthodox are not Christians. Different branches, directions, sects. But they are Muslims. Although some ulema say "only Allah knows the truth" This was said about the Druze.

The Druze do not call themselves Muslims. What you wrote is sorry nonsense. The Druze are as far removed from Islam as the Christians from Judaism.

[sogdy]

Quote: Bakht

This is a common misfortune to know all the forums. For some reason they believe that since they live in the country, they know the situation better than anyone else.

Something from your dialogue somehow suddenly seemed that Aron Zawi does not know not only about Israel, but also about the whole region.

[Krasnodar]

The Druze have their own religion. Not Islam. Moreover, not a Shiite sense. They believe in reincarnation (and Druze can only be reborn as a Druze), marriages with representatives of other nations are prohibited, the clan is from Itro - father-in-law Moses and druze can only be born. There is no proselytism and no messengerry.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Bakht

First about the Druze. Druze in Syria call themselves Muslims. And the mention of Allah there is quite acceptable. So you know the match poorly.
You do not know the position of Israel at all
Do you know a man like Moshe Yaalon? It’s quite an official Israeli defense minister until 2016: “Israel has common interests with regional Sunni forces,

Thanks Bakht ..! They explained everything perfectly .., otherwise the "comrades" had already stumbled me .. hehe
Write more, it’s interesting to read you ..

[Bakht]

I didn’t protect you. The truth is simply more important to me. I studied the confessional composition of Syria in the 2014 year. When did the conflict begin? Yesterday I read about the death of the general and stumbled upon this strange passage. Before writing, I double-checked the information. But this is not enough. Three of my friends from Israel confirmed that the Druze are, for the most part, Muslims. But they have a strange religion. And they take the oath of allegiance not for religious reasons, but for state reasons. They honestly serve the state in which they live. Therefore, the Druze of Israel serve in the IDF, and the Syrian Druze support Assad.
Regarding you personally. Your passages against the Jews do not stand up to criticism. When I read about the “world backstage”, the “secret Khazaria,” it causes nothing but bewilderment.
I am not going to argue and did not intend to. If not for individual words, then I would not have exploded. I have long understood that it’s impossible to convince anyone of anything, let alone convince anyone. You just need to know the position of different people.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

I didn’t protect you. The truth is simply more important to me. I studied the confessional composition of Syria in the 2014 year. When did the conflict begin? Yesterday I read about the death of the general and stumbled upon this strange passage. Before writing, I double-checked the information. But this is not enough. Three of my friends from Israel confirmed that the Druze are, for the most part, Muslims. But they have a strange religion. And they take the oath of allegiance not for religious reasons, but for state reasons. They honestly serve the state in which they live. Therefore, the Druze of Israel serve in the IDF, and the Syrian Druze support Assad.

You have been misled. Druze are not Muslims.

It is impossible to accept the Druze religion, since there is no institution of conversion to the Druze faith. A friend is one who adheres to his traditional religion and whose father and mother are Druze. The Druzes themselves, who believe in the transmigration of souls, argue that every human soul was given the opportunity to accept Druze worship during the so-called "open gates" (until the 15th century, the Christian calendar, according to some other information - until the 12th-13th centuries hl) . All souls who have decided to accept the Druze faith are reborn into Druze, the rest of the souls have refused the transition to the Druze faith.
Druze accept the doctrine of Takiya (“mental reservation”, which can be used to hide genuine views), according to which a believer living in a hostile environment, can outwardly accept its conventions, while maintaining true faith in the soul. Deception and misinformation of the Gentiles for the good of the community are not reprehensible.
The Druze society is a closed organization led by ukkal (clever, knowledgeable, plural of akil) who lead a mass of believers (juhhal - ignorant, plural of jahil). It seems that there is a rather complicated hierarchy of ukkal. There are also higher spiritual authorities, who are called “adzhavid” (plural of Jayyid) - perfect. Ukkal can become one only after reaching 40 years, having passed a series of special long-term courses and programs of religious and philosophical education.

[Krasnodar]

ISIS is the brainchild of the Emirates and Saudis with the Qatars. It was created to preserve Sunni influence in Iraq and prevent the creation of the pro-Ioan triangle - Iran - Iraq - Syria.
What does Israel have to do with the FIG and ISIS Jews need?

[Pissarro]

At the expense of the Gulf countries you correctly wrote

Why ISIS to Israel?
1. The gap in the supply chain between Iran and Hesbollah. Only Iran can present a real threat to Israel in the present world, can it potentially and is ready to destroy Israel potentially. 2. Syria as a centralized state with an army, economy, education is a more real threat than a rabble of wild fanatics

[Maz]

Indeed, is there too much attention to a country that has not been able to reconcile with neighbors for half a century, a state the size of which is comparable to an area in the Moscow region, an education - a capital that most countries, including allies, did not recognize, and it’s okay . You just need to ignore them, but then they climb themselves. Strange people.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

Indeed, is there too much attention to a country that has not been able to reconcile with neighbors for half a century, a state the size of which is comparable to an area in the Moscow region, an education - a capital that most countries, including allies, did not recognize, and it’s okay . You just need to ignore them, but then they climb themselves. Strange people.

Maz, why don’t you be indignant when your Ukraine is given even more time? And then from the four countries with which we border our peace treaty. You must know how a person who lived in Israel for some time.

[Krasnodar]

For Israel, that ISIS, that Hezbollah-Bandera and Vlasov-two p ... race

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Vitaly, how scary you are to live. And all from the fact that for you the main thing is to cut something and it does not matter whether it is meaningful or not.

Dear Aron, how you reacted immediately to my comment, I immediately got the impression (long ago) that it became scary for you to live in Israel .. After all the processes that take place in BV .. heh

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Have you ever looked in the atlas?

I have an atlas (on the whole wall))) my son has and always try to find Israel ...! I do not see you point blank with a magnifier even .. ha ha ha

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Aron, is everything really so bad with you? You sell everything and get ready to run away ... You give us Gusinsky, the bastard and with his stolen money .. Well, the rest! And then run away ..

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Dear Aron, how you reacted immediately to my comment, I immediately got the impression (long ago) that it became scary for you to live in Israel .. After all the processes that take place in BV .. heh

so the normal reaction of a person who is tired of empty-hooted chatter. And what kind of processes are taking place in BV from which an Israeli can become scared?

I have an atlas (on the whole wall))) my son has and always try to find Israel ...! I do not see you point blank with a magnifier even .. ha ha ha

And how does the size on the map affect the quality of life, the ability to get good health care and decent social benefits?

Aron, is everything really so bad with you? You sell everything and get ready to run away ... You give us Gusinsky, the bastard and with his stolen money .. Well, the rest! And then run away ..

no, it’s just that the largest corporations in the world are so confident in us that they do not just buy our companies, but leave them to work on the spot, preserving jobs and investing in our country. And in general it is necessary to work, and not to fool around.

In the first 9 months of 2017, budget revenues from direct taxes grew by 15%, and total revenues from taxes and fees increased by 8%, the Russian-speaking press service of the Minister of Finance Moshe Kahlon reports. In absolute terms, the increase in tax revenues compared to the same period last year amounted to 18 billion shekels - despite the reduction in import taxes and customs duties under the "Family Net" program.
As emphasized in the press release, the Israeli budget can easily do without 400 million shekels per year, levied in the form of customs duties on the import of mobile phones, and other customs duties that burden the budgets of Israeli families.
In September, almost 30 billions of shekels of taxes and fees came to the treasury - this is a “historical record,” the Ministry of Finance notes. The state treasury is full. According to TheMarker, budget revenues this year will exceed planned numbers by 10 billion shekels or even more.
However, the topic of the first post-holiday meeting of coalition factions was raising funds to increase disability benefits.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

no, just the largest corporations in the world are so confident in us that they do not just buy our companies, but leave them to work on the spot

Bouncers you are incorrigible Jews, and even arrogant and arrogant ....
Look, as it were again ... The world is changing not in your favor! I am very happy about it..
And you'd better be friends with Russia, ONLY FOR HONEST!
Maybe we’ll forgive you, for 90, etc ... (for our general and downed pilots, for Ukraine)
These are the things Aron, in the tank troops .. heh heh

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Bouncers you are incorrigible Jews, and even arrogant and arrogant ....
Look, as it were again ... The world is changing not in your favor! I am very happy about it..
And you'd better be friends with Russia, ONLY FOR HONEST!
Maybe we’ll forgive you, for 90, etc ... (for our general and downed pilots, for Ukraine)
These are the things Aron, in the tank troops .. heh heh

You have such a spread of consciousness that nothing can be understood from it.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You have such a spread of consciousness that nothing can be understood from it.

Have to be encrypted ..! And then you and people like you like picking a fingernail in your soul .. And then look maliciously at the reaction .. hehe

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

Have to be encrypted ..! And then you and people like you like picking a fingernail in your soul .. And then look maliciously at the reaction .. hehe

The main thing is that you, Vitaly, sorted out tomorrow morning yourself.

[sogdy]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And how does the size on the map affect the quality of life, the ability to get good health care and decent social benefits?

I remember, more recently, we decided that our Internet is much faster and much cheaper.
And yet, what do you mean by "quality of life"?
About healthcare - 20 years after the hospital I visited the hospital, 7 years ago. What are you talking about?

Quote: Aron Zaavi

The main thing is that you ... tomorrow morning you figured it out yourself.

I return your wish.

[Karen]

No, Vitaly, the Jews are not bouncers ... Neither Sephardic nor the Khazars ... What they boastfully warn of, they materialize with the blood of the rest.
The only hope is for their intermarriage ... We will help them in this ...

[Krasnodar]

The Khazars, Sephardic, Rothschilds, materialize with blood ... which is then added to matzo))))
So let’s unleash Karen, a war between them, expropriate the expropriated from them and this money will be enough for the first installment for a loan for Gelentvagen)))))

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Herkulesich

A complete victory is still far away, for even in the liberated territories of the militants are thousands,

But any closer than it was a couple of years ago)))

[timgan777]

and before the complete defeat it was even closer, they managed, in time our people asked for help

[siberalt]

I wonder what they planned to do next?

[solzh]

If it were not for Russian help, it is not known what would be in Syria and Iraq now.

[Essex62]

Yes, for some reason, it is known that the pipeline to Europe began to be pulled.

[Thunderbolt]

The more they press on Syria, the stronger Iran will gain a foothold there. The conclusion is unfavorable for Iran’s enemies.
But at the same time, I note that we have our own interests there and our own position, separate from Iranian.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Thunderbolt

But at the same time, I note that we have our own interests there and our own position, separate from Iranian.

This is normal. Each side wants to have their own buns. Indeed, when the Russian Federation, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey (which jumped into the last carriage of the departing train), really push ISIS and the idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan, it will be very difficult for the United States and Israel to influence the situation in the region.

[Brut]

Quote: Nyrobsky

ISIS and the idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan

Are you sure that independent Kurdistan is not beneficial for Russia?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Brut

Are you sure that independent Kurdistan is not beneficial for Russia?

In the territorial version in which the US sees it, nobody needs an independent Kurdistan. For mattresses who have lost initiative in the Syrian issue, the creation of an independent Kurdistan that includes the territories of Syria, Turkey and Iraq is just an opportunity to gain a foothold in the region for decades and influence all future energy projects, because bypassing Kurdistan it will be impossible to build pipelines to Europe. Do we need it?

[newcomer]

the active, so to speak, hot phase of the war is certainly coming to an end, Glory to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation! , and then, if there are no surprises from the “partners”. there is a lot of work ahead to consolidate the victory at the front in the diplomatic sphere. offhand: the question of the Kurds, questions to or with Israel, Turkey. further painstaking work to identify terrorists "in the bushes", simultaneously restoring the country's economy. in general, everything is just beginning.

[Baloo]

Quote: newbie

the active, so to speak, hot phase of the war is certainly coming to an end,

Rearrangement may. ISIS leaves for Somalia and through Afghanistan to Central Asia, and Kurds will take their place of cannon fodder and again everything is against Syria? I want to make a mistake.

[newcomer]

maybe rearrangement. As for the Kurds, I have already noted that there are questions. about Central Asia, a big topic for reflection, but for now the question is about Syria.

[Essex62]

And Russia will restore the Syrian economy, is this our task? And when will we take care of our own?

[newcomer]

who told you that this is our task? these issues will be decided by the Syrians themselves and our companies, which will participate in the work. Naturally not thanks.

[Esoteric]

Quote: newbie

and our companies that will participate in the work. Naturally not thanks.

From this place more ... That is, Russian workers will not be paid decent wages, but they will invest this money with quick returns (what is the quick return there? trade?) to Syria ... Right?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Esoteric

From this place more ... That is, Russian workers will not be paid decent wages, but they will invest this money with quick returns (what is the quick return there? trade?) to Syria ... Right?

Well, it's like in the song: "We are responsible for those whom we tamed." Syria is now your most important partner, as Israel is for the United States, so you have to pay. Empires are not created for free.

[LAWNER]

They will think about how to rectify the situation created by the French and the British after the First World War.

[newcomer]

Esoteric, listen, what am I really writing in Syriac? what money, what kind of workers, and what about the state? oil and gas with state. Syria will work shares, no matter how you are against (although I do not know why you are against?). it’s not even a matter of them, construction companies, banking “daughters” are more needed here, in the literal sense, everything needs to be rebuilt first, not only at home, but also factories, factories, hospitals, schools. then teach the Syrians anew, to use correctly all these fruits of the return to civilization. and the final paragraph of your comment. what are you talking about? where does the salary of a simple worker with us do with what the companies and firms in Syria will do? I dare to assure you, our companies will beat off their dividends, it will not be the budget of the Russian Federation that will invest, but our commercial, specialized companies. plus the Chinese Shirans will not lag behind. and there are a dozen Western companies that do not give a damn about the sanctions and go to Syria to work.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: newbie

Esoteric, listen, what am I really writing in Syriac? what money, what kind of workers, and what about the state. oil and gas with state. Syria will work shares, no matter how you are against (although I do not know why you are against?). it’s not even a matter of them, construction companies, banking “daughters” will be required here, literally, everything needs to be rebuilt first, not only at home, but also factories, factories, hospitals, schools. then teach the Syrians anew, to use correctly all these fruits of the return to civilization ...

Where did the funds for these undertakings come from? The Syrians do not have them. Commercial companies will not work for promises. So you and the Iranians will have to pay all this out of pocket.

[newcomer]

do not wait. if they invest, it’s our joint banks with China (I forgot how they are there, the EurAsEC bank, or something like that), and you won’t stand aside, I give a guarantee: invest in it so that then you can tear off interest (and there are different percentages , not only cash). Well, I’m saying, everything is just beginning. Oh yeah! forgot the highlight. What do you think, GDP, when meeting with the king of the Saudis, did not raise this issue? I think that was one of the main issues on the agenda.

[Krasnodar]

The main issue on the agenda was how beneficial the Russian Federation is to Iran and how to fix it.

[ventel]

For the economy of Syria, do not worry, all contracts will go west and China. And Russia, as in the proverbial Moor, did his work, the Moor must leave.

[newcomer]

are you really so naive?

[ventel]

Why am I naive from the history of the USSR. The USSR also helped to build an economy for developing countries and where the return is, I see only how Russia is the legal successor of the USSR and it only writes off many millions of debts, do you think that something has changed.

[newcomer]

about the USSR and former allies, this is a different situation. here we betrayed ourselves and scattered our connections.

[Bakht]

The economy of Syria will be restored by China. For energy resources. Therefore, it is critical for Assad to preserve oil and gas. Without this, the restoration of Syria is in question. Syrian resources are not so important for Russia. But China will be happy to harness. Two critical conditions. 1. Cessation of hostilities. 2. The presence of these same resources.

[newcomer]

It is precisely Russia that is critical for the control of Syria’s energy resources. Firstly, it is precisely because of this that started in Syria, Assad refused to transfer gas / oil pipelines through Syria, the killers of all our flows. secondly, precisely so as not to give China the same resources
for the “Forces of Siberia” is depreciating.

[Bakht]

Controversial statement. Especially by the "power of Siberia"

[newcomer]

Because of such “controversial" moments, wars begin. or another point, do you think Israel is delighted with the war in Syria? they, as always, try to get their percentage from what is happening, the methods are certainly not so hot, but this is already a conversation in another topic. and about the “controversy”, don’t know, browse the Internet, there are a lot of interesting things about the pipe from the Saud to the geyropa. Libya, by the way, was also supposed to be a transit territory, not fate.

[Pissarro]

Well, for the megaflow of refugees, Libya is just a transit territory. True, the organizers probably meant another transit

[BAI]

And it seems to me there will be a permanent small civil war. The states will not let the situation stabilize there.

[anjey]

Quote: Komsomol

You need to get out of there, the sooner the better. You’ll figure it out yourself.

Rabinovich, why did they call the Komsomol, because you dumped it for a long time ..., and you’ve left your site quietly, at home ...

[APASUS]

Assad said at the meeting that "the defeat of terrorists in Syria has dealt a crushing blow to the plans of the West in the entire Middle East."

Assad would not have made such statements, because the war is not over and its continuation is almost a fait accompli. This is a strategic war for the West that means controlling the resources of most of the region. The battle for influence and there are still all the main events ahead!

[Livonetc]

Quote: Bakht

Just for the sake of curiosity. If Assad is seated in a chair (and this is coming) and peace will come in Syria, what will this mean for Israel?
Do not think that I am fixated on Israel. Just wondering. In my opinion, this will mean the defeat of Israel. For the simple reason that the result of all this mess was an even closer rapprochement between Iran and Syria. And Hezbollah’s gain.
If you recall the old joke, then Israel can turn into Isik. In the geopolitical sense. Jews will have to harness directly to ISIS.
Until 2014, Assad pursued a more independent policy. Now Iran’s influence has increased greatly in this region. Israel made huge mistakes. Supported by ISIS and Kurdistan. Of course, nothing threatens Israel itself, but its influence on the region has greatly diminished.

If a stable state is established in Syria, this in absolute terms will be a boon to Israel.
It’s like the balance between the USA and the USSR.
There was no friendship, and mutual consideration of interests was present.
So in BV.
If Syria and Iraq get tired, it will probably be possible to maintain relative calm in the BV.
And it will be possible to agree with Iran and even with Lebanon (read by Hezbollah).
East part of the world trading since ancient times.

[Bakht]

Today, Israel will not agree with either Iran or Hezbollah. This is not possible in principle.
Everything flows, everything changes. I am talking about today or a maximum of 2-3 years. There is simply no point in planning for more nowadays.

[Fedya2017]

Western plans for Assad itself, of course, are violated ... Thanks to Russia. But the strengthening of Iran in Syria does not need anyone in the B. Vostok. Including Russia ... Assad will no longer be able to independently control the entire former territory of his country, and Russia is not interested in extinguishing the constantly flaring uprisings of uprisings in Syria. This is pointless ... Therefore, Russia will agree to the creation of a Kurdish state in Syria, as the shield of Israel and Syria itself from Iran. This option will suit everyone ... the United States will probably allow Iraq and Turkey to expel Kurds from their territories to Syria, they have nowhere else to run. But then the question arises at the UN about the creation and recognition of the Kurdish state as a people affected by the genocide of its neighbors. And no one will ask Assad ... If he decides to fight against the Kurds, it will only accelerate the formation of the Kurdish state, and the end of Assad himself ...

[Pissarro]

The Kurds will be crushed immediately from four sides and Russia will not help. All Kurdish transit goes through Turkey and Iraq. The blockade will destroy the Kurdish economy and, accordingly, the content of Peshmerga. There is no access to the sea. Iraq and Syria are hardly capable of large-scale actions against the Kurds, but Turkey and Iran will tear them like a hot-water bottle, they don’t need the Kurdistan community with their Kurdish communities. But Barzani is an old burnt fox, he knows all the layouts, I think even mattresses don’t agitate him for such mistakes

[Maz]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Esoteric

From this place more ... That is, Russian workers will not be paid decent wages, but they will invest this money with quick returns (what is the quick return there? trade?) to Syria ... Right?

Well, it's like in the song: "We are responsible for those whom we tamed." Syria is now your most important partner, as Israel is for the United States, so you have to pay. Empires are not created for free.

Security is also worth a lot, so you have to fork out if you want to live peacefully among Arabs, Shiite Muslims, Sunnis, Egyptians, Bedouins and so on. States also do not exist for nothing

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

Security is also worth a lot, so you have to fork out if you want to live peacefully among Arabs, Shiite Muslims, Sunnis, Egyptians, Bedouins and so on. States also do not exist for nothing

We are getting along fine with Egypt today. We live normally with Jordan. We support a ceasefire with Lebanon. Well, certainly we will not invest in Syria. This is your cow.

[Bakht]

Aron Zaavi,
Your right to make mistakes. The fact that you listened does not mean that you understood. There are general trends and goals of the state. Israel’s strategic goal is perfectly understandable and has not changed for 40-50 for years. In line with this trend, the destruction of Syria is a blessing for the Jewish state. And I am convinced that my opinion has not yet been disproved.
You do not want to understand that I do not blame Israel. This is a normal reaction to a hostile environment. And achieving your goals by all available means. If ISIS is suitable for Israeli purposes, then it is necessary to cooperate with ISIS. It may be moral or immoral, but moral principles are not applicable to real politics.
“If Hitler invaded hell, I would at least put in a word for the devil in the House of Commons”

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

Aron Zaavi,
Your right to make mistakes. The fact that you listened does not mean that you understood. There are general trends and goals of the state. Israel’s strategic goal is perfectly understandable and has not changed for 40-50 for years. In line with this trend, the destruction of Syria is a blessing for the Jewish state. And I am convinced that my opinion has not yet been disproved.
You do not want to understand that I do not blame Israel. This is a normal reaction to a hostile environment. And achieving your goals by all available means. If ISIS is suitable for Israeli purposes, then it is necessary to cooperate with ISIS. It may be moral or immoral, but moral principles are not applicable to real politics.
“If Hitler invaded hell, I would at least put in a word for the devil in the House of Commons”

perhaps the collapse of Syria into several states would be geostrategic for Israel, but Assad’s victory is not a terrible option at all. Poisonous fangs in the form of chemical weapons pulled out of him. Militarily and economically, the country has been thrown away for 25 years. So I don’t see anything terrible.
From the fact that you believe in your message, it does not become true, Israel has never cooperated with ISIS. It is a fact.

[badens1111]

Aron Zaavi,
The mysterious Druze religion arose in Egypt at the end of the 1050th century on the basis of Islamic (Shiite) monotheism mixed with Greek philosophy and Hinduism. And already in XNUMX the gates of faith were closed, and remains closed for those who wish to join. Druze believe in reincarnation, which means that the soul of everyone living now had the opportunity to become friends a thousand years ago, but did not want to.

[Bakht]

Aron Zaavi,
You have been misled. I can use a quote from Wikipedia. All the controversy began with your statement yesterday. Druze use the name of Allah in their sermons. They adapt to any state system. And in Syria they are Muslims. But I still try to draw my knowledge from Islamic theological sites.
Praise be to Allaah.
The Druze originated as a secret sect among the esoteric (baatini) groups that appear forwardly to be Muslim and who sometimes pretend to be religious, ascetic and pious. They make an outward show of false pride in religion, pretending to be various kinds of Shi'ahs, Sufis and lovers of Ahl al-Bayt (the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him))
They pretend to be Muslims. This is what Muslim teachings say. But they say it !!!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bakht

Aron Zaavi,
You have been misled. I can use a quote from Wikipedia. All the controversy began with your statement yesterday. Druze use the name of Allah in their sermons. They adapt to any state system. And in Syria they are Muslims. But I still try to draw my knowledge from Islamic theological sites.
Praise be to Allaah.

Druze Arab-speaking people. What can they call Gd except “Allah '? Adaptation to the system is not an adaptation to religion.
Druze, as you already know, is a completely closed society. And unlike Islam, it does not accept proselytism from the word in general. Druze non-Muslims is a fact.

[Livonetc]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Bakht

Aron Zaavi,
You have been misled. I can use a quote from Wikipedia. All the controversy began with your statement yesterday. Druze use the name of Allah in their sermons. They adapt to any state system. And in Syria they are Muslims. But I still try to draw my knowledge from Islamic theological sites.
Praise be to Allaah.

Druze Arab-speaking people. What can they call Gd except “Allah '? Adaptation to the system is not an adaptation to religion.
Druze, as you already know, is a completely closed society. And unlike Islam, it does not accept proselytism from the word in general. Druze non-Muslims is a fact.

Thanks for the new term.
After reading, I found that proselytism is not accepted not only by the Druze but also by the Alawites who profess Islam.
Another interesting point I came across regarding the Alawites I quote: “the practice of“ takiya ”was widespread in their midst - the administration of the external rites of another religion with the preservation of true faith in the soul.”
And how do you rate the Alavites?