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Israeli F-35 received damage after a bird strike

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Fighter F-35, recently entered service with the Israeli Air Force was damaged after a collision with two birds, the plane will return to service in a few days, reports RIA News Post army press service.




"When preparing the F-35 for normal landing ... minor damage was found after the collision of two birds with an airplane," the military said in response to the agency's request.

The plane landed safely at the base and was sent for maintenance, as is usually the case in such situations. The plane will be back in operation in the next few days,
added to the press service.

Recall, Israel has ordered 50 X-NUMX F-5 fighters in the USA and has already received seven of them. He remains the sole owner of fifth-generation cars in the Middle East. In the Israeli Air Force fighter received the name "Adir", that is, "Mighty" (translated from Hebrew).

It is planned to bring the aircraft to a state of combat readiness by the end of this year, although some foreign publications have already attributed to them participation in military operations, including in Syria.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 19 October 2017 13: 16 New
    15
    Sorry for the birds ... crying
    1. hrych
      hrych 19 October 2017 13: 21 New
      20
      Quote: The same Lech
      Sorry for the birds

      An unrealistically advanced plane was hit by a tit, which often steals wheat wassat Oh yeah, he’s invisible, the chizhik didn’t notice him wassat
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 19 October 2017 13: 42 New
        15
        And to what type of birds did the Israeli ornithologists attribute the Syrian C-200 rocket? smile
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 19 October 2017 14: 01 New
          +7
          Quote: Thrall
          And to what type of birds did the Israeli ornithologists attribute the Syrian C-200 rocket? smile

          There is nothing to do with the S-200 ..., The plane is hardly noticeable STELS, so the birds didn’t notice ... smile
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 19 October 2017 19: 55 New
            +4
            The plane is stealth STELS, so the birds and did not notice ...

            The operator with 200 did not notice the invisibility. laughing
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 19 October 2017 15: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Thrall
          And to what type of birds did the Israeli ornithologists attribute the Syrian C-200 rocket? smile

          To stupid birds.
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 19 October 2017 15: 45 New
            +7
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            To stupid birds.

            That is, you admitted that this "stupid bird." Still kicked the tail of your F-35?
            Well, then 35 is bad, since the outdated "bird". I pinched the latest model of your Master ..
          2. Thrall
            Thrall 19 October 2017 15: 59 New
            +6
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            To stupid birds.

            Why do you not like birds so much? smile
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 19 October 2017 21: 09 New
              0
              Quote: Thrall
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              To stupid birds.

              Why do you not like birds so much? smile

              Not! I do not believe! Can not be! Aron is not like that! Harmful, of course, but NOT SUCH! crying
          3. Sars
            Sars 20 October 2017 05: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            To stupid birds.

            To birds - anti-Semites.

            Are they accidentally shown in the photo of the air intakes?
        3. Lord
          Lord 20 October 2017 04: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Thrall
          And to what type of birds did the Israeli ornithologists attribute the Syrian C-200 rocket? smile

          According to the message of the 11th channel of Israeli TV from 16.10.17 - two weeks ago AOI F-35I Air Force received damage after a collision with a stork.
          Temporal missiles appeared for the S-200? Do they shoot the past? wassat They fired on the 16th, and hit the plane two weeks earlier? wassat
          Sincerely sorry to break your dreams and fantasies. hi
      2. Maz
        Maz 19 October 2017 16: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: The same Lech
        Sorry for the birds

        An unrealistically advanced plane was hit by a tit, which often steals wheat wassat Oh yeah, he’s invisible, the chizhik didn’t notice him wassat

        But he returned, sat down and went for repairs - cyborg
      3. not main
        not main 19 October 2017 22: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: The same Lech
        Sorry for the birds

        An unrealistically advanced plane was hit by a tit, which often steals wheat wassat Oh yeah, he’s invisible, the chizhik didn’t notice him wassat

        Not funny! The most terrible danger la on takeoff and landing is the birds! All la in all countries suffer from this. we are no exception!
        1. Lord
          Lord 20 October 2017 03: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: non-primary
          Not funny! The most terrible danger la on takeoff and landing is the birds! All la in all countries suffer from this. we are no exception!

          Is anyone interested here? The main purpose of the article is to persuade towards Israel.
      4. iouris
        iouris 20 October 2017 11: 15 New
        0
        Not a Siskin, but a Siberian Crane.
    2. Titsen
      Titsen 19 October 2017 13: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      Sorry for the birds ...


      Birds were awarded the title of Winged Heroes of Russia posthumously.

      Now those claiming exclusivity will start a bootlegg about the Russian track!
      1. Lord
        Lord 20 October 2017 03: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Titsen
        Now those claiming exclusivity will start a bootlegg about the Russian track!

        Already begun, only about the Syrian. And on the "great power" and not "exclusivity."
        Particularly “gifted” - S-200 warhead centner VV, causes damage like two birds. laughing
      2. iouris
        iouris 20 October 2017 11: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Titsen
        Now those claiming exclusivity will start a bootlegg about the Russian track!

        There is still a Russian trace: migratory birds fly.
    3. Herculesic
      Herculesic 19 October 2017 13: 23 New
      +2
      The drone "birds in the sky '" did not fly! wassat
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 October 2017 13: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      Sorry for the birds ... crying

      And the pilots. We cited statistics, so since the 60 of the year more than 20 cars crashed from bird walling and several pilots died. Among them was Captain Begin, the grandson of Prime Minister Begin.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 19 October 2017 13: 36 New
        +3
        Well, if you drive away from the airfields with some sort of ultrasound? Yet collisions during takeoff and climb or landing.
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 October 2017 13: 48 New
          +6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Well, if you drive away from the airfields with some sort of ultrasound? Yet collisions during takeoff and climb or landing.

          The routes of the traveling princes lie through Israel. Now is just the season. The plane was shot down by two cranes ...
          Flocks are discovered with a "special" radar acquired in Moldova. There are many methods for driving birds. However, you can’t drive everyone away.

          Incidentally, the incident occurred 2 weeks ago. The news is late.
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 19 October 2017 15: 00 New
            +2
            Why did they buy this from Moldova? Do not you fly bird radar?
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 October 2017 16: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: hohol95
              Why did they buy this from Moldova? Do not you fly bird radar?

              And why for the sake of one radar to start the whole fuss? We bought an old Soviet radar that does its job. And he is in private hands. I don’t know what the Air Force is using.
              1. WUA 518
                WUA 518 19 October 2017 22: 02 New
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                We bought an old Soviet radar that does its job.


                Quote: Professor
                I don’t know what the Air Force is using.

                You can read here
                https://dona-anna.livejournal.com/614486.html
          2. igor67
            igor67 19 October 2017 19: 13 New
            +4
            Ahula Israel Reserve, there are hundreds of thousands of migratory birds, cranes Storks pelicans
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 19 October 2017 14: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Well, if you drive away from the airfields with some sort of ultrasound?

          During take-off and landing, birds are driven off by the powerful radiation of the airborne station, it must be turned on, if you don’t turn it on, they will punish you on the debriefing. Well, plus the old-fashioned methods - with a usual scarecrow or with a sound signal.
          Meeting a bird in flight is a terrible thing, especially at low altitudes, if it gets into the air intake, it can grind the entire engine, if it goes into the glazing of a lamp, it can break through everything, including its head with a protective helmet. This is not a bird, but a shell.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 19 October 2017 14: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Well, if you drive away from the airfields with some sort of ultrasound?

          So far, nothing better than hawks and falcons has come up with this topic.
          Birds are dangerous on take-off especially ...
          1. ghby
            ghby 20 October 2017 07: 07 New
            +1
            we have a civil airfield in the center of the city, in front of it, 500 meters away a natural park - Lake Bird Harbor, when you go past you often hear the cries of birds of prey in the reproducer, the birds are driven away. We live probably predators are the same present.
        4. Manul
          Manul 20 October 2017 00: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Well, if you drive away from the airfields with some sort of ultrasound? Yet collisions during takeoff and climb or landing.

          And I like the thought. Put a turret on the edge of the strip and let it whistle. The problem is already boring. There is a non-toilet paper, but the birds still interfere with the flight.
      2. Primoos
        Primoos 19 October 2017 13: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: The same Lech
        Sorry for the birds ... crying

        And the pilots. We cited statistics, so since the 60 of the year more than 20 cars crashed from bird walling and several pilots died. Among them was Captain Begin, the grandson of Prime Minister Begin.

        Pity Begin, do not mind.
      3. maiman61
        maiman61 19 October 2017 13: 42 New
        11
        I even know what the bird’s name is - S-200 Syrian air defense! He just did not see the invisibility! And if I saw, then of course I wouldn’t shoot!
      4. Maz
        Maz 19 October 2017 16: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: The same Lech
        Sorry for the birds ... crying

        And the pilots. We cited statistics, so since the 60 of the year more than 20 cars crashed from bird walling and several pilots died. Among them was Captain Begin, the grandson of Prime Minister Begin.

        And dezh is a vaunted ornithological warning service, every summer they fly to Africa - birds and, moreover, exclusively in flocks. Shaw is a flock superradar not trained to notice? Aiayi, what a disaster - autumn came unexpectedly for the Israeli Air Force.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 19 October 2017 21: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Maz
          A deja vaunted ornithological warning service

          Fate! Nobody is insured request
      5. Awaz
        Awaz 19 October 2017 17: 57 New
        0
        Yes, we don’t care, you can lay out at least some versions. Until they really knock down and it does not fall on the territory beyond the control of the United States or Israel, no one will ever admit that they shot down .. However, I think you made conclusions ..
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    6. fider
      fider 19 October 2017 14: 03 New
      +3
      The same LECHA Today, 13: 16
      Sorry for the birds. But the goats - no!
      1. Good Zsul
        Good Zsul 19 October 2017 14: 43 New
        0
        , in your understanding, are these pilots? Toddler wei)))
    7. CONTROL
      CONTROL 19 October 2017 15: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      Sorry for the birds ... crying

      Well done, "bird"!
      ...our person!...
    8. Svarog51
      Svarog51 19 October 2017 15: 04 New
      16
      It was necessary to conduct tests for a collision with a bird. Here is a bike about such tests in the USSR



      THE USSR. Certification for the international market of the Soviet Airbus Il 86. One of the points of mandatory testing is a test for tightness of the cockpit after a collision with a bird when it hits the glass of the cockpit. To carry out the tests, in accordance with the latest international safety requirements, I had to purchase a special pneumatic gun for the currency in Germany, which is installed at a certain distance from the cockpit and produces a pneumatic shot simulating a plane colliding with a bird. In order for the bird crash test to be as close to reality as possible, an ordinary chicken carcass of a certain weight is charged into the air gun, in accordance with the instructions.

      We bought a gun, mounted it, checked everything, loaded the chicken. Shot. To the horror of the factory workers, from the shot, the chicken smashed the frame to the face of the plane, pulled out the glass, flew through the cockpit, knocked out the pilots' door and flew almost a third of the cabin, damaging several seats. Nightmare results! State of emergency! Checked the gun settings, the weight of the chicken. Everything is okay. This means either mathematical miscalculations of strength, or a performance defect. Torn everyone, from designers to manufacturers. Made a change. Assembled a new cabin. Started a new test. Gun calibration. Weigh the chicken. Shot. The glass was broken through, the door to the cockpit was seriously damaged, but the chicken did not fly away to the passengers. New calculations, strengthening of all elements, changing the composition of glass, all fasteners and joints. Calibration Weighing. Shot. The glass is broken, pieces of chicken all over the cockpit, but intact to the pilots' door. Repeatedly strengthening the glass frame, using the latest materials, military technology, chicken, shot ... The glass is broken, but still left in place, the chicken ricochets, flying away to the side, but there is still depressurization of the cabin, but this is still a test failure. Design resources are almost exhausted. It occurred to someone that it was not a plane, but a ... gun. It is likely that she is shooting too hard. A complaint is written to the manufacturer, photos of all tests are attached and specialists are called for disassembly. The Germans come and ask to carry out the whole complex of tests with them, and they want the Russian experts to conduct the tests themselves from beginning to end, to understand whether they are doing everything right and where the possible mistake is. Ours, in strict accordance with the instructions, mount everything, the Germans silently watch, fixing everything on the video. Gun, plane, chicken weighing, shot, glass intact, but still a small gap and depressurization of the cockpit. A chicken, ricocheting, flies deep into the pavilion, destroying everything on its own ...

      Ours look victoriously at the Germans. The Germans, opening their mouths, calm down, begin to exchange glances and stare at our designers. The members of our commission begin to pour in all sorts of different clever terms, proving that it is impossible to maintain the cabin tightness with such parameters with such parameters and, accordingly, obtain an international certificate.

      Stunned Germans are silent. When the head of the German delegation regained his speech, he spread his hands apart and said:

      -It is unlikely that the cabin of a civilian aircraft was able to withstand such a test in general, having received such minimal damage. This is phenomenal! We supply our equipment to almost all aircraft manufacturers in the world and I am sure that no other aircraft could stand anything like that. It’s good that you have not yet started crash tests of engines with our gun, by the way, it has nothing to do with it. There is simply little that can withstand a shot at point-blank with a half-kilogram ice core, because before loading it is necessary to not only weigh the chicken, but also defrost it ...
      good
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 19 October 2017 19: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Svarog51
        It was necessary to conduct tests for a collision with a bird

    9. MoJloT
      MoJloT 19 October 2017 15: 05 New
      +8
      Everyone returned home after a successfully completed assignment!

      one of them in a meeting with the president, from the bottom right.
  2. wot
    wot 19 October 2017 13: 17 New
    +9
    blah blah blah - yesterday there was an article on VO, it was the Syrians who fool Jews wink good
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 October 2017 13: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: wot
      blah blah blah - yesterday there was an article on VO, it was the Syrians who fool Jews wink good

      Well yes. Our pilots have never once used a weapon with the F-35, but conspiracy enthusiasts have already sent him on operational duty. Kindergarten.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 19 October 2017 13: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: wot
        blah blah blah - yesterday there was an article on VO, it was the Syrians who fool Jews wink good

        Well yes. Our pilots have never once used a weapon with the F-35, but conspiracy enthusiasts have already sent him on operational duty. Kindergarten.

        Where does this infa come from? And yes, our Su-34 was not accepted for testing or for the troops, but this did not prevent the prototypes from jamming and destroying Georgian air defense in 2008.
  3. salad
    salad 19 October 2017 13: 18 New
    18
    This happened at that moment when the Syrian S-200s fired at them, and according to the info the plane was damaged, but the Jews claim that the bird was hit, it’s a laugh if the old complex struck the Amer’s pride FE-35 laughing
    1. jjj
      jjj 19 October 2017 13: 26 New
      +4
      By the way, is this a coincidence?
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 19 October 2017 13: 33 New
      +7
      Exactly. And it will return to operation because a new plane will be sent from the USA, because The United States will spend any money now in order not to give out information that some ancient complex had noticed an invisible, unparalleled divine child prodigy.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 October 2017 13: 54 New
        +3
        "And will return to operation because a new plane will be sent from the USA" ///

        Such things are impossible to hide. We will learn about any such event in the army
        after a couple of hours.
        After the Lebanon War of 1982, Americans did not believe that we did not lose
        not a single F-16 and F-15. We arrived to check.
        Aircraft placed at the bases in rows in the order of serial numbers. And American officers and engineers checked them and copied the numbers into notebooks. All were in place.
        Among them were damaged, cut by fragments, but they alone were not shot down.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 19 October 2017 13: 57 New
          +5
          And what is the problem to hide such things? Do you have video broadcasting from the airfield around the clock? Or what?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 October 2017 14: 00 New
            +5
            The fact that everyone has children somewhere. And often spend the night at home (small country).
            And the privacy mode is very frail in such things.
            Therefore, the Moscow Region does not even try to lie and hide all sorts of events and incidents:
            officers can easily go to court for lies.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 19 October 2017 14: 03 New
              12
              And you do not have such a thing as "Military Secret"? If so, then you do not have troops, but a circus.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 19 October 2017 14: 41 New
                +2
                Exist. But not regarding losses.
                1. Muvka
                  Muvka 19 October 2017 15: 23 New
                  +3
                  Here the United States could put a condition. Strict secrecy regarding the F-35. They still have to sell this plane to them. And if you consider that these F-35s were bought with American money, then they most likely set such conditions.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 19 October 2017 15: 40 New
                    +1
                    There is no particular secrecy. It will soon be our most common aircraft - a workhorse, instead of the F-16.
                    (And you can’t imagine how raw and with what high level of accident the baby F-16 once came to us. And he plowed 30 years in constant sorties)
                    Even if there are real losses from accidents or enemy actions, they will not refuse from the F-35. There is nothing even close to equal in the market right now.
                    Orders for him for years to come. So Lockheed is only interested in cases like this - a collision with birds.
                    1. Muvka
                      Muvka 19 October 2017 16: 10 New
                      +3
                      Lockheed is very uninterested in seeing their old invisible plane the old S-200.
                      1. Beitar
                        Beitar 19 October 2017 21: 28 New
                        +1
                        An old S-200, which was split into atoms, right before the nose of the Shaigu ?? Oh well
            2. sivuch
              sivuch 19 October 2017 15: 28 New
              +3
              Actually, there is. In my past work, the bosses very robustly raked when it turned out that there were discos inserted in the Mahshev for secret
            3. Maz
              Maz 19 October 2017 17: 00 New
              +4
              Quote: voyaka uh
              The fact that everyone has children somewhere. And often spend the night at home (small country).
              And the privacy mode is very frail in such things.
              Therefore, the Moscow Region does not even try to lie and hide all sorts of events and incidents:
              officers can easily go to court for lies.

              Tell this one to your grandmother, and my daughter specifically said it was forbidden to say it, it is possible, it is secret, not a word about it. And she even joked if she told me that she would have to kill me - a movie. Warrior - no need to fool us. We live in one country.
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 19 October 2017 17: 12 New
                +2
                Quote: Maz

                Tell this one to your grandmother, and my daughter specifically said it was forbidden to say it, it is possible, it is secret, not a word about it. And she even joked if she told me that she would have to kill me - a movie. Warrior - no need to fool us. We live in one country.

                You do not live with us in one country. No need to lie.
              2. Beitar
                Beitar 19 October 2017 21: 29 New
                +1
                Quote: Maz
                We live in one country.

                God forbid!
            4. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 19 October 2017 21: 19 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              The fact that everyone has children somewhere. And often spend the night at home (small country).
              And the privacy mode is very frail in such things.

              And do you know the principle "talker - a find for a spy"?
        2. sivuch
          sivuch 19 October 2017 15: 40 New
          +3
          Uncle Misha (Zeiger) spoke about this commission. But whoever sent this commission and from where he himself found out the answer was one — he read somewhere.
          Although the F-15 and F-16 irretrievable losses, most likely, really did not have.
          Once widely known in narrow circles, Tom Cooper claimed that the losses of these machines were also and promised that after 2012 (i.e. 30 years), the Pentagon will declassify its data, including and about these losses. The deadlines are long gone.
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 19 October 2017 13: 50 New
      +8
      Well, with fu 117 it was like that, they are developing and developing everything, and as a result, again on the same rake, clowns. laughing

      First: Israeli planes fired at 200
      Later: the Jews were suddenly inebriated and quietly smashed from 200, though warning the owner of the BV.
      And now: the new fu with the "bird" collided, it seems exactly when they were fired ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 October 2017 08: 55 New
        0
        Faced with a bird more than a week before the incident with the shelling of a reconnaissance aircraft in Lebanon and a strike on the radar and command vehicle of the S-200.
    4. Esoteric
      Esoteric 19 October 2017 13: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: salat
      It happened that moment when the Syrian S-200 fired at them

      belay How so? He is "invisible" ... request
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 19 October 2017 14: 43 New
        +3
        How so? He is "invisible"

        117 is also "invisible" ... was, "invisible" crying
    5. CONTROL
      CONTROL 19 October 2017 15: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: salat
      This happened at that moment when the Syrian S-200s fired at them, and according to the info the plane was damaged, but the Jews claim that the bird was hit, it’s a laugh if the old complex struck the Amer’s pride FE-35 laughing

      they slapped me for this info ban!
      S-200 - this complex is 50 years old; well - and Syrian operators ... Moreover - they brought him down from the air defense base, heroically "destroyed" by the Israelis several months ago ...
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 19 October 2017 13: 21 New
    +7
    Captain Bird prematurely became a major lol !
    1. fider
      fider 19 October 2017 14: 02 New
      +3
      Herculesych Today, 13:21
      Captain Bird prematurely became a major
      POSTHUMOUSLY.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 19 October 2017 14: 10 New
        +4
        fider- do not wait !!! lol He will show himself to you! !!
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 19 October 2017 14: 49 New
          +1
          There are 47 more of them, well, if he was destroyed, the truth is that the IS may laughing
          48 launchers S-200 in service as of 2016
  5. Volodin
    Volodin 19 October 2017 13: 26 New
    +3
    Now the guests themselves will come from where they will say: "Not a day without news about Israel."

    Yeah, the birds pecked ...
    1. salad
      salad 19 October 2017 13: 42 New
      +1
      Our cormorants peck at stadiums in St. Petersburg, and in Israel birds attack planes laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor 19 October 2017 13: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: Volodin
      Now the guests themselves will come from where they will say: "Not a day without news about Israel."

      Not a day without news about Israel. wink

      The news is not fresh. You are late. Looks like they were busy writing an article about a nuclear suitcase. request

      https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/73777.html
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    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 19 October 2017 14: 57 New
      +4
      Interesting lol

      On Monday, 16. 10. 2017 8:51 (Moscow time), Israeli Air Force aircraft invaded Syrian airspace, were attacked by Syrian air defense systems


      17.10.2017 One of the F-35I Air Force injured after a collision with a "bird"


  6. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 19 October 2017 13: 26 New
    0
    Israeli F-35 fighter recently damaged by two birds
    Baptism of fire laughing You can draw a couple of "medals" on board wink
    But seriously, it's okay wink . Any motorist will tell you what happens to the car after a collision at speed with the same hare or bird yes
  7. wot
    wot 19 October 2017 13: 30 New
    +3
    Quote: Volodin
    Now the guests themselves will come from where they will say: "Not a day without news about Israel."
    Yeah, the birds pecked ...

    they except: and where are the wreckage, they cannot write anything intelligible, starting from bots with epaulets of an ordinary, to a citizen with the nickname "professor" laughing
  8. wot
    wot 19 October 2017 13: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Well yes. Our pilots have never once used a weapon with the F-35, but conspiracy enthusiasts have already sent him on operational duty. Kindergarten.

    children's excuse laughing vi Air Force Chief wink you know everything bully got a plop from SAR - sorry not finished am
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 19 October 2017 13: 49 New
      +9
      I am sure that they shot down this flying bucket! But to admit that they shot down the F-35 is worse than death! A new plane was driven from a mattress by a transport worker, and the wreckage was taken away! Everyone is happy, everyone is laughing!
      1. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 19 October 2017 17: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: maiman61
        I am sure that they shot down this flying bucket! But to admit that they shot down the F-35 is worse than death! A new plane was driven from a mattress by a transport worker, and the wreckage was taken away! Everyone is happy, everyone is laughing!

        I advise you to bite and stop watching conspiracy theories.
        1. maiman61
          maiman61 19 October 2017 20: 10 New
          +1
          I advise you convincingly, do not advise others! During the war with the Arabs, the United States, by agreement, supplied Israel with as many aircraft for free as the Israelis lost in battle. And practically the number of aircraft in the Israeli Air Force did not decrease, regardless of the losses.
          1. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 19 October 2017 22: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: maiman61
            I advise you convincingly, do not advise others! During the war with the Arabs, the United States, by agreement, supplied Israel with as many aircraft for free as the Israelis lost in battle.

            I STRONGLY ADVISE TO READ OUT when the states began to help Israel with money and weapons. I will give a hint AFTER ARAB = ISRAELI CONFLICTS.
            1. maiman61
              maiman61 20 October 2017 07: 24 New
              +1
              If you don’t know, then don’t need to bull.
          2. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 19 October 2017 22: 52 New
            0
            Even here there are a lot of articles about this period and specifically Israeli aviation and the course of hostilities. But always easier
            Quote: maiman61
            The United States, by agreement, supplied Israel with as many aircraft for free as the Israelis lost in battle.

            request
  9. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 19 October 2017 13: 36 New
    +5
    Yeah ... Of course these were birds. Suicide bombers ... And the S-200 missile, of course, has nothing to do with it.
    1. Vard
      Vard 19 October 2017 13: 43 New
      0
      Yeah ... no luck ... the birds ...
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 19 October 2017 13: 45 New
    12
    Birds seem to have flown from the SAA from Syrian territory. Old birds, still from the USSR.
  11. wot
    wot 19 October 2017 14: 03 New
    +5
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "And will return to operation because a new plane will be sent from the USA" ///
    Such things are impossible to hide. We will learn about any such event in the army
    after a couple of hours.
    After the Lebanon War of 1982, Americans did not believe that we did not lose
    not a single F-16 and F-15. We arrived to check.
    Aircraft placed at the bases in rows in the order of serial numbers. And American officers and engineers checked them and copied the numbers into notebooks. All were in place.
    Among them were damaged, cut by fragments, but they alone were not shot down.

    lol
  12. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 19 October 2017 14: 06 New
    +5
    When preparing the F-35 for landing in normal mode ... minor damage was detected
    The pilot in flight opened the hood, went around the plane and found minor damage ...: 0
  13. afrikanez
    afrikanez 19 October 2017 14: 11 New
    +2
    Here it was not necessary to make "invisible", the birds would have noticed and turned away. laughing
  14. unignm
    unignm 19 October 2017 14: 21 New
    +1
    What did the raven get under fire?
  15. stone
    stone 19 October 2017 14: 22 New
    +6
    Ah Dreams, dreams! F-35s in Israel have not even been adopted yet. They wrote repeatedly that combat readiness was reached by the end of the year. In addition to pilots, it is necessary to prepare all services, check all systems, etc.
    I understand the desire of many to “fill up” the F-35, but hardly. Have you seen the S-200 rocket? Why did she only damage his stealth cover? lol
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 19 October 2017 14: 35 New
      +2
      And where did you get the idea that the plane was not shot down? He is now by sea, secretly, will bring a replacement and say that they have repaired.
    2. vearey
      vearey 19 October 2017 14: 56 New
      +2
      Well, she only hurt him stealth coverage
      Well, they took yes destroyed everyone’s dreams, And it was so close.
      And what kind of slogan is, our C200 is hit, but it only harms the coating.
      Well, whether or not we will see when the Sirans try the next time.
    3. Awaz
      Awaz 19 October 2017 18: 10 New
      0
      In principle, given that the rocket and the entire system are old and the plane is not fools to fly, the option of undermining this rocket at a certain distance from the target is likely. From this and minor damage.
      1. vearey
        vearey 19 October 2017 21: 53 New
        +1
        minor damage
        Ogh, the cheat got there on a Malaysian liner, and tore it to pieces?
  16. Eurodav
    Eurodav 19 October 2017 14: 37 New
    +1
    Some kind of conscious birds !!! Some EBNcenter threw stones at others, others nearly shot down a Jewish airplane !!! The parallels are visible, but the conclusions suggest themselves ...
  17. pvv113
    pvv113 19 October 2017 14: 38 New
    +2
    No one is safe from a collision with a bird. "Catch" the birds, not only on takeoff and landing, but also at altitude. One goose was caught somewhere at 6 thousand meters. And the sizes of the birds are different: from sparrow to avista. If the bird didn’t get into the air intake, it usually does without consequences, a current repair is enough, or simply wash the feathers off the skin
  18. gukoyan
    gukoyan 19 October 2017 15: 06 New
    +1
    Wow, this is secrecy, even the birds do not notice)
  19. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 19 October 2017 15: 45 New
    +3
    I like the version that the newest F-35 gold fighter has fired SAM S-200 SAM which 50 years as already
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 19 October 2017 17: 43 New
      +2
      And the only thing I achieved, scratched the paint? Great advertisement wassat
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 19 October 2017 18: 13 New
        0
        the rocket is old, it could have slightly missed. Air defense missiles do not necessarily hit the plane directly. They are blown up at some distance from the target, hitting it with shrapnel. EXAMPLE BUK and Boeing. I do not know how the C 200 works, definitely what looks like.
        1. Black5Raven
          Black5Raven 19 October 2017 22: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: AwaZ
          They are blown up at some distance from the target, hitting it with shrapnel

          Then even worse, it will be an advertisement for American paint. Our paint is so strong that the explosion of a huge Russian rocket barely damages it! laughing
      2. Beitar
        Beitar 19 October 2017 21: 36 New
        +1
        she didn’t even have time to take off, M.O. of the Russian Federation will confirm
    2. Lord
      Lord 20 October 2017 04: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      I like the version more

      And I like the version that I'm the secret heir to a billionaire. laughing
      Did it somehow affect reality? laughing
  20. Fanat85
    Fanat85 19 October 2017 16: 45 New
    +3
    Israel's storytellers and only wink Everyone, of course, believed in the logic of events - the SAA attacked Israeli planes, those in response means they destroy it with 200, and a little later they receive messages that “BIRD” damaged F35 !!! where is the logic??? It seems the Israelis came up with a new classification for C200 called "BIRD".
  21. XXXIII
    XXXIII 19 October 2017 19: 27 New
    +2
    Israeli Prime Minister “An attempt was made to bring down our aircraft”
    So the Jewish planes were checked on the way hmm, so they could have shot down with the same success .....
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 19 October 2017 19: 58 New
      +2
      "There are several points that require an urgent solution, and require discussion of the prospects for further development of the situation in Syria." Negotiations continued behind closed doors, the parties did not disclose any details upon their completion.
      preparing a meeting with the scandal ... laughing Israel showed the United States that it was not very friendly with Moscow and destroyed the S-200, an old song, before meeting with Putin - Netanyahu also fired there in Syria .... lol
  22. wot
    wot 19 October 2017 19: 56 New
    0
    Quote: xscd
    Zoto your coffins flying without any birds, two from the smoke duct Kuzya Rdin from the Ichthymet base in Tartus and how many helicopters I lost count

    Babi Yar ..... am
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 19 October 2017 20: 06 New
    +1
    I will not argue about the presence of these birds or their absence, but .............. As soon as in Syria the shelling by air defense systems of flying objects occurs, on this day there is information about misfortunes in the aviation of the USA or Israel It seems that the events are not related, but why on this day, day or two there would be no difference and questions at all
  24. datur
    datur 19 October 2017 22: 25 New
    +1
    and the bird was called S-200 !!! wink
  25. radiootdel4
    radiootdel4 20 October 2017 13: 22 New
    +2
    Both birds are presented for government awards ...)
  26. MILOS6
    MILOS6 21 October 2017 15: 47 New
    0
    What is the S-200 now called BIRD?