The prototype of the first in the Russian electric convertoplan will appear by 2019 year.

The prototype of Russia's first electric convertoplane with take-off mass 1,5 t will appear by 2019 year. This was reported on Wednesday in the press service of the holding "Helicopters of Russia" (part of Rostec). The basis for the development of the machine will be the unmanned tiltrotor VRT30.

The design office BP-Technologies (included in Russian Helicopters) plans to create a prototype of Russia's first electric convertiplane with take-off weight 2019 t by 1,5.

- Said in the holding.

The press service noted that the advantage of the aircraft, made according to the convertoplan, is that their operation does not require a runway. In addition, thanks to the turning mechanism of screws, the tiltrotor is able to develop high speed and perform tasks in the hover mode.

Today, together with our partners from the SuperOx company, we are developing a new flying laboratory for the convertoplane, in the onboard cable network of which high-tech superconductivity technologies will be used, which will have a positive effect on the weight and size characteristics of the prototype

- said Andrei Boginsky, Director General of the Russian Helicopters holding, whose words were quoted in the press service.

In July, Viktor Bondarev, who then held the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces, announced that Russia was engaged in the creation of military convertiplanes and heavy drones, without specifying which models are in question, reports TASS.

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[Pirogov]

I would like to believe in these promises. But if you remember everything about the production of drones, there are big doubts.

[iConst]

Quote: Pirogov

I would like to believe in these promises

The speed record for a helicopter is approximately 450 km / h. The V-22 flies a little over 500 km / h. Moreover, it is many times more expensive and more difficult to manufacture. High operating overhead.

Is it worth it to fence a garden?

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Pirogov

But if you remember everything about the production of drones, there are big doubts.

- And which of us 4-5 years ago did not have “big doubts”? And to the noise of the wave about the deplorable state of the Russian army, they managed to put the Americans to sleep. And from what cesspool they managed to raise everything - certainly deserves respect! Well, if you need it - you don’t need this device, you can say one thing: let it fill your hand, it will suddenly work. The main thing - do not steal!

[Pirogov]

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Quote: oldseaman1957

The main thing - do not steal!

Well, it’s you, my friend, bent ............................................. ....
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Quote: oldseaman1957

Well, you need it — you don’t need this device, you can say one thing: let it fill your hand, it’ll suddenly fit

.............. I didn’t say that I didn’t need it, but everyone knows that there are problems. I agree with you that work in this direction needs to be done. .

[okko077]

And now in the near-lamented, this is an achievement ... We don’t know how to fight in a new way using information technology, UAVs fly only along the route and write to the internal drive, in real time they work only up to 100 km, and only give information to the remote control, not with which systems are not interfaced ... Advanced systems shoot only with direct fire or at fixed targets .. There are no targeting systems even based on UAVs that operate in real time ... When conducting offensive operations, we don’t see any binoculars ... Everywhere we plug people with holes and tanks, they’re not fighting like that anymore, hence the predicted losses in the event of a ground operation are uncountable ... Enough?

[BIP PS FSB RF]

Tell about it in Syria, storyteller!

[Sharansky]

Launches of strategic cruise missiles through the sheds are hinting that he was right.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: BIP PS FSB RF

Tell about it in Syria, storyteller!

Storyteller? If there were opportunities, then the turntables would not fly over the heads of the militants. Or do you think it is from a good life that they risk so much? Or, as already mentioned by the Nurses, fighters bombed?
There is no information about MTR, but why are they sent to correct them? There are no drones that can replace them. We do not have .
And the rest?
Iran sends crowds of untrained militias, Syrians plug all holes with a pair of units and outdated equipment that do not scatter from the sight of militants.
And as mentioned above, and what for cruise missiles on empty sheds are launched? Yes, because the cat cried out of guided ammunition.

[okko077]

I'll tell you ... From the point of view of the result in the fight against partisans without air defense, you can set off. From the point of view of assessing the conduct of modern warfare and the effectiveness of the use of modern weapons "-0" .... An outdated trough in the form of a kerosene fighter, time and resources called a front-line bomber, weighing 40 tons, carries 2 two hundred, at best, to destroy hacks .... About strategists, and keep silent about the calibers .... But there are no others, there are no light attack aircraft, if there is no whole class of aircraft, almost no SU-25 Georgian assemblies have not all fallen apart, which can be said .... But another five years and fall apart with the Su-24M ....

[The_lancet]

The speed record for a helicopter is approximately 450 km / h. The V-22 flies a little over 500 km / h. Moreover, it is many times more expensive and more difficult to manufacture. High operating overhead

??
A speed record was set by a Sikorsky X2 helicopter. In total 1 helicopter was released
This prototype was able to reach a speed of 460 kilometers per hour.
It doesn't look like a transport one, does it? Do you compare it with a tiltrotor?

[NEXUS]

Quote: iConst

The speed record for a helicopter is approximately 450 km / h.

Now we have created and are testing a high-speed helicopter with us, which has a speed of 450-500 km and in the USA such work is also underway.

[Topgun]

can you read more about "with us", in the USA it is known about Sikorsky ...

[BIP PS FSB RF]

Look for the Ka-90, but there are others.
http://fishki.net/1774283-ka-90-sverhskorostnoj-r
eaktivnyj-helicopter.html

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: BIP PS FSB RF

Look for the Ka-90, but there are others.
http://fishki.net/1774283-ka-90-sverhskorostnoj-r
eaktivnyj-helicopter.html

they have not been created yet, in the best case there are only sketches, even there is nothing to experience.

[Topgun]

making a helicopter fast is very difficult, now Sikorsky is doing it, there are physical limitations there they can be solved only by co-alignment + computer control ...
and a tiltrotor can be fast, like an airplane, everything depends on the fantasies and skills of engineers, osprey the first - then everything will be cooler ...
and and most importantly, it’s not even speed, but range - here, as it were, for helicopters to convertiplanes as to the moon ...

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: iConst

Quote: Pirogov

I would like to believe in these promises

Helicopter speed record of approximately 450 km / h. The V-22 flies a little over 500 km / h. Moreover, it is many times more expensive and more difficult to manufacture. High operating overhead.

Is it worth it to fence a garden?

Do not carry nonsense, ordinary helicopters fly at a speed of up to 200-300km and then with low load and high fuel consumption. And your "record" is set not on a helicopter, but on a hybrid aircraft that does not have a "type name of an aircraft", but it’s a helicopter + a pushing element (screw or jet propulsion). Calling this type of aircraft a helicopter is incorrect.
As for the cost, then again remind me the cost of mass-produced high-speed military transport helicopters at a speed of 450-500km / h? Better yet, name the aircraft created according to the “helicopter + pushing element” scheme in the “military transport aviation” class with a payload of 5-15 tons. You will be surprised but there are none and do not plan to do it because of the too large and unstable load on the blades.

[seat9969]

here tee himself gave an answer .... a record of 450 and the average speed in the room is 320 km and the tiltrotor has 520 km ... so .... tee in flight ..

[Scoun]

Quote: Pirogov

I would like to believe in these promises. But if you remember everything,

Yes, what are you?))) ExPerds will now attack and say that the dead-end branch (especially for Russia) will cover the plane.
I just remember how converttoplanes like to find fault here.

[iConst]

Quote: Scoun

I just remember how converttoplanes like to find fault here.

And what to blame - I quoted the figures above. You just have to figure it out.

Moreover, there is a way to overcome the main problem of increasing the horizontal speed of the helicopter - the zero lifting force of the retreating blade.
For example, a coaxial design does not have this drawback.

[Esoteric]

Quote: iConst

And what to blame - I quoted the figures above. You just have to figure it out.

Consider the oil run out ...

[iConst]

Quote: Esoteric

Quote: iConst

And what to blame - I quoted the figures above. You just have to figure it out.

Consider the oil run out ...

Do not understand. Was it a gurgle?

[venaya]

Quote: iConst

what to blame - I quoted the figures above. You just have to figure it out.

Let's take it together: a 450 km / h helicopter eats an order of magnitude more fuel than such a low-speed tiltrotor. The V-22’s request not to torment, it’s “the first damn thing,” so to speak, I feel sick of it - almost zero advantages at a sky-high price, it cannot be set as an example at all, unless it is an example: how not to make tilt-turns. The theoretical possibility of reducing fuel consumption by at least an order of magnitude and even with a 50-fold increase in maximum speed, while its cost should not rise above XNUMX%. Is such a task not worth the "dressing". Anti-advertising, unfortunately, still steers, something needs to be done with this.

[ADmA_RUS]

The order is 10 times. How do you reduce fuel consumption by an order of magnitude?

[venaya]

Quote: ADmA_RUS

How do you reduce fuel consumption by an order of magnitude?

Helicopter helicopter group operates on two functions: 1) to maintain the weight of the helicopter itself, 2) to ensure horizontal movement. In the airplane mode, the tiltrotor does not require the helipad to support the LHWP, the wing takes on this function, and the wing is not a simple airplane, but with a much higher aerodynamic quality, which is not possible on a regular plane, in addition to the flight mode, the aircraft itself is additionally required also take-off / landing modes, which there is no need for a tiltrotor. After all, a tiltrotor takes off in helicopter mode and the aerodynamic quality of its wings does not have the limitations that are present in a classic airplane. I think that I described in detail the essence of the differences, different aircraft working on different principles of flight / takeoff (landing). Horizontal flight of the tiltrotor requires just an order of magnitude lower engine power, it seems to me that this is the possibility of reducing traditional engines and the basic problem, and not the tiltrotor itself as a new aircraft (LAVVP).

[iConst]

Quote: venaya

Let's take it together: a 450 km / h helicopter eats an order of magnitude more fuel than such a low-speed tiltrotor. Request V-22 not to torment, so to speak, "the first pancake is lumpy,"

And where does such information come from? I can agree that for now, high-speed helicopters may have increased fuel consumption. But blurt out about the "order" - just not serious.
And why did Sikorski (ugh - amateurs in the helicopter industry) developed his own high-speed S-97?

[venaya]

Quote: iConst

.. blurt out about the "order" - just not serious. And why did Sikorski (ugh - amateurs in the helicopter industry) developed his own high-speed S-97?

It’s better not to blurt out, but to really understand these issues. This topic is many years old and "things are still there." It is better to understand the reasons for such a slow promotion of such projects. Here there was a convertiplane designer with the nickname "SVVP", it’s a pity that he isn’t here now, his projects contain even bigger figures of profitability. Perhaps this topic does not interest you at all? Then the explanations take a really long time and a lot of space, for people who are "in the know" such figures on economy can not surprise. And what is there behind the puddle? So it doesn’t bother me at all, they have their own "cockroaches" there, I heard a little about it from those who introduced those there. innovations, the topic is complex.

[iConst]

Quote: venaya

Quote: iConst

.. blurt out about the "order" - just not serious. And why did Sikorski (ugh - amateurs in the helicopter industry) developed his own high-speed S-97?

Better not to "blurt out", but really understand these issues. This topic is many years old and "things are still there." It's better to understand the reasons for so slow progress similar projects. Here there was a convertiplane designer with the nickname "SVVP", it’s a pity that he isn’t here now, his projects contain even bigger figures of profitability. Perhaps this topic does not interest you at all? Then explanation takes a really long time and a lot of space for people who are in the "courses" such figures in terms of efficiency can not surprise. AND what is there over the puddle? So it doesn’t bother me at all, they have their own "cockroaches" there, I heard a little about it from those who introduced those there. innovations, the topic is complex.

Standard exit from the topic. OK.

[venaya]

Quote: iConst

Standard exit from the topic. OK.

And what is the topic? I read:

Quote: iConst

And why is Sikorski .. developed his own high-speed S-97?

This is how much you need to invest in developing a completely new project? It really is not clear that it’s easier and cheaper to build up a spent helicopter theme. That’s who, who, and they like to count money and “spit on them from the high bell tower” on what happens in the end. I’m just about this, there is practice on this subject, which I wrote about. If something turned out to be incomprehensible to you here, then ask the question in a more understandable form, it is not difficult to answer, it is difficult to understand what exactly you are asking here.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: iConst

And what to blame - I quoted the figures above. You just have to figure it out.

This is precisely the key concept of "counting" and everything has long been counted since the creation of ordinary helicopters. The problem is the blades, they undergo strong vibration, at a high speed of horizontal movement in the conceptual scheme “helicopter + pushing element” vibrations in the blades begin, only if in a regular helicopter these vibrations are stable then the above-mentioned scheme does not. Yes, you can create an aircraft according to the above scheme, but at the same time serious restrictions are imposed on the load of the blades, as a result of which they should be small (in length) and the most nasty thing for an aircraft should be minimal weight. All this makes the voiced scheme unsuitable for creating a "military transport aircraft" on its basis, but it is quite possible to create an "assault aircraft" similar to the ka-52 and mi-28.

At the moment, on the basis of the information collected, I consider it most reasonable to use the “coaxial helicopter + pushing element” scheme for the assault LAVVP and the “convertiplane” scheme for the military transport LAVVP, or come up with something with the convertiplane scheme in the assault variation. But according to the latter, I don’t have any options yet.

[Komsomol]

He also remembered, argued here on this subject once ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Scoun

I just remember how converttoplanes like to find fault here.

Do you understand the difference between a UAV and a manned aircraft?

[okko077]

No, we just do not have systems in which UAVs operate. We do not need to make UAVs, we need to create systems in which these UAVs operate in real time, only then they can realize all their capabilities ... Forget what you are promised and do not believe and do not hope ...

[Dezinto]

Let me guess if you turn it over, you can find the inscription - made in china.
On a poorly glued plastic seam.
In short, I mean that our fighters must build the legendary best fighters in the world and not indulge in drones - they must be stupidly bought!
They don’t know how to do such things in Russia, well, historically, I myself don’t understand why? fighters, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, assault rifles - please, but to assemble a normal car - no way. Alas. It is necessary to understand and develop what turns out.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: DEZINTO

They don’t know how to do such things in Russia, well, historically, I myself don’t understand why? fighters, tanks,

- What about MS-21? They learned how to make super-strong plastic at the highest level, and from here you can swing a lot. So let the Chinese smoke aside.

[Vita vko]

Quote: DEZINTO

our destroyers need to build the legendary best fighters in the world and not indulge in drones

You will also cancel cybernetics and genetic engineering in Russia. Then it remains only to remove the shoe and knock on the podium in the "best traditions" of H.
In fact, even now, with a confidence of 80%, we can say that the 6th generation fighter will be unmanned, at least one of the modifications. In fact, right now the functions of the pilot are just a “pen and pay” ie a button and that is far from always. But at the same time, the presence of a pilot imposes a bunch of restrictions on overloads and life support systems.

[Esoteric]

Quote: DEZINTO

They don’t know how to do such things in Russia, well, historically, I myself don’t understand why?

Probably, because they did not know how to burn witches at bonfires, because they did not give the Chukchi infected with smallpox, did not invent the guillotine ...
We have everything in the old way: "One with a bipod, seven with a spoon", "Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself"

[ADmA_RUS]

How do you know that they can’t? Do you work in this area? If not, where did they get it?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Projects ... projects ....

[family tree]

So easy! Robots, here 2019 and get the salary at the tariff when it flies , well, do not fire you so smart
Well, an option, a month for fine-tuning, series 10, to kill in all respects, bring it to mind a month according to roosevelt, and if you are comfortable, you will receive a state award, an analogue of an apartment and a car in place plus a lemon, but a complete answer and work on the jambs. Arranged?

[Herculesic]

And now then the prototype obviously flies on ordinary engines!

[APASUS]

I looked at the picture and thought it happened, we will have a kamikaze UAV !? I read the text and again saw a mega project with fantastic investments and minimal output. I would not mind that private investors invested in the production of this topic, but this is again a state program! Again there is not enough money and went to moan in the media, it all happened ... ......... saw Shura, they are golden! (C)

[Echo]

Well, damn it, it was necessary to build it 10 years ago ...

[faiver]

next notes from the future ...

[Mentat]

Quote: iConst

Quote: Pirogov

I would like to believe in these promises

The speed record for a helicopter is approximately 450 km / h. The V-22 flies a little over 500 km / h. Moreover, it is many times more expensive and more difficult to manufacture. High operating overhead.

Is it worth it to fence a garden?

Worth it. The fact is that this tiltrotor uses electric motors, which eliminates almost all problems. Moreover, its mass is small and it is an unmanned vehicle.
Russia is not going to design heavy convertiplanes yet. The experience was, conclusions are made, which are confirmed by the current operation of American cars.