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Media: In Israel, Sergei Shoigu was asked to move the IRGC and Hezbollah from Israeli borders

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Arab newspaper with a registration in London Al-Shark al-Ausat publishes material in which he reports on the main topic of talks between Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Israeli officials. As it is known, Sergei Shoigu completed his visit to Israel the day before, where he held talks with his colleague Avigdor Lieberman and with other representatives of not only the military department, but also the government as a whole. In particular, Sergei Shoigu was received by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


Media: In Israel, Sergei Shoigu was asked to move the IRGC and Hezbollah from Israeli borders


The newspaper stated that the Israeli authorities have asked Sergei Shoigu to influence the Iranian and pro-Iranian forces operating in the Syrian Arab Republic. In particular, one of the topics of the talks was to ensure that the forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Hezbollah group did not approach the borders of Israel.

From the material:
Israeli government officials have called on the Russian minister of war to prevent these forces from moving closer to Israeli borders than on 40 km. Sergei Shoigu said that this is too wide a buffer zone, and agreed to create a strip (without the IRGC and Hezbollah) up to 15 km wide.


Earlier it was said that "five kilometers would be enough", which Israel categorically opposed.

Neither the Russian nor the Israeli ministries of defense have yet commented on the publication in this newspaper.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 18 October 2017 15: 36 New
    31
    There is another option to push the borders of Israel.
    1. figwam
      figwam 18 October 2017 15: 43 New
      +4
      So what is there to move, all of Israel, and so a little more than the Kaliningrad region.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 October 2017 16: 03 New
        17
        Some illogical demand-proposal of Israel to the Russian Federation.
        How exactly does the Israeli leadership imagine this ?!
        The Islamic Revolutionary Guard corps and the Hezbollah group will in any case bend their line - regardless of Russia - after all, Israel’s policy towards neighboring states and non-Jewish peoples, in principle, does not historically change, but only expands Zionist!
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 18 October 2017 16: 23 New
          +8
          As usual, an attempt to solve their internal problems with the wrong hands. Is Russia necessary ??
          Yes, and strange - where does the MO Shoigu?
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 18 October 2017 22: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: To be or not to be
            Yes, and strange - where does the MO Shoigu?

            ... signed the surrender of Israel, as the Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation ... the conditions for surrender were previously agreed with V.V. Putin ... well, Israel would not have been, not having fired at the Syrian battery a couple of hours before signing the surrender ... you understand them ... laughing
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 18 October 2017 22: 43 New
              +2
              Well? The snitch provocateur showed up. With anti-Semitic statements.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 18 October 2017 23: 43 New
                +9
                Shahno
                With anti-Semitic statements.

                Paul! Yes, no Inok10 anti-Semitic statements! You logically incorrectly replace the concept of "anti-Zionism" with "anti-Semitism"! Especially for BV!
                After all, the Semites are not only Jews, but also Arabs, etc. Semites are an ethnic concept. Does Inok10 also oppose the Arabs ?! Does not speak.
                But "Zionism" is a political concept that is characteristic of the politics of Talmudic Jews, Jews - when they build their national state and their dominance in the world against everyone else.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 18 October 2017 22: 33 New
          +2
          "Politics ... is Zionistly expanding" Tatyana writes cool recently.
          fellow
      2. hrych
        hrych 18 October 2017 16: 07 New
        +8
        Quote: figvam
        slightly larger than the Kaliningrad region

        Half of the territory of Israel is the Negev desert (60% of the territory), so East Prussia looks much preferable in a geographical sense laughing
        1. polev66
          polev66 18 October 2017 16: 49 New
          +3
          well, it’s better to let them sit in the desert, and not like Roosevelt offered in the Crimea
      3. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 18 October 2017 16: 25 New
        +2
        Israel / Area 20 km²

        The country's length from north to south is 470 km, from east to west at its widest point - 135 km. The total length of the borders of Israel is 1125 km.
        Kaliningrad Region / Area
        15 100 km²
        The maximum length of the region from west to east is 205 km, from north to south - 108 km.
      4. ver_
        ver_ 18 October 2017 16: 57 New
        +5
        ... and where they need more - they’ll hell in foreign monasteries-countries, they are very comfortable .. Israel - like Don in the old days - there is no issue from there ..., naughty in foreign penates and sniff into Israel and all in chocolate ..
    2. maxim947
      maxim947 18 October 2017 15: 44 New
      +1
      Where does such accurate information come from? Did they hold a candle there?
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 18 October 2017 18: 27 New
        +6
        With such requests, it is clear that the Russian Federation began to play the first violin in BV. Israeli security in the hands of the Kremlin. Why did they even support this mess? Either the barmalei, worse than Hezbollah, or the Syrian army with allied Iran and Hezbollah, who have gained combat experience, will be on the border. Previously, everything was clear, Tel Aviv at any time could bomb with impunity in Syria. "Skeleton" in the closet, which at any time you can get and "redeem" for watered. elite goals. Now the answer can fly in. So why was all this necessary for Israel? Now it is necessary to run to Moscow, there to seek your truth and support.
        It must be admitted that the United States cannot cope with such a request from Bibi. The White House is furious that Iran is gaining weight and may approach the border with Israel. Probably Trump is furious about this, because he promised them full support. But in reality it can’t help. Here, except Moscow, no one can influence the nascent Shiite, pro-Iranian belt from Lebanon to Iran. It turns out that the role of Moscow for Israel is impossible to evaluate. And if in 20km. Iran will deploy a base from the border - will Bibi run to Moscow for every sneeze IRGC?
        Obviously, Russia wants to reconcile these enemies, at least find “common ground” and create conditions for negotiations. I think everything goes there. hi
    3. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 18 October 2017 15: 44 New
      +2
      A good idea .... for the first of April. But something, unlike yours, she did not visit the head of the Minister of Defense of Russia.
    4. Partyzan
      Partyzan 18 October 2017 15: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: Thrall
      There is another option to push the borders of Israel

      well .... such boundaries are hard to move laughing
    5. NIKNN
      NIKNN 18 October 2017 15: 50 New
      12
      Quote: Thrall
      There is another option to push the borders of Israel.

      It would be fairer ..., you know how it is ...
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 October 2017 15: 55 New
        +6
        Quote: NIKNN
        Quote: Thrall
        There is another option to push the borders of Israel.

        It would be fairer ..., you know how it is ...

        Or maybe you do not need false cards? Neither in 47, nor during the period when they were under the rule of Jordan and Egypt, did the Arabs call themselves Palestinians. They created this self-identification after the victory of Israel in the Six Day War.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 18 October 2017 16: 15 New
          19
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          They created this self-identification after the victory of Israel in the Six Day War.

          So the Jews didn’t call themselves Israelis until the state of Israel was artificially created by UN decision lol

          1. BAI
            BAI 18 October 2017 16: 40 New
            +6
            So the Jews didn’t call themselves Israelis until the state of Israel was artificially created by UN decision

            The "Sons of Israel" comes from the Old Testament, when not only the UN, even the USA did not exist.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 18 October 2017 17: 53 New
              10
              Quote: BAI
              The "Sons of Israel" comes from the Old Testament, when not only the UN, even the USA did not exist

              Is the Old Testament a historical record?
              1. nikolaev
                nikolaev 19 October 2017 04: 18 New
                +2
                This is a nuclear bomb planted under all of humanity.
            2. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 19: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: BAI
              The "Sons of Israel" comes from the Old Testament, when not only the UN, even the USA did not exist.

              And between the "sons of Israel" and the "Israelis" the difference is the same as between the "Russians" and the "Russians."
        2. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 18 October 2017 17: 15 New
          +5
          Moscow. October 13, 2016 INTERFAX.RU - The Executive Committee of the UN Commission on Education, Science and Culture (UNESCO) voted in favor of a document denying the Jewish people’s connection with the Temple Mount, writes The Jerusalim Post.
          In voting, Israel was supported by the United States, Great Britain, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Estonia and Germany.
          The resolution was supported by the delegations of Russia, China, Algeria, Bangladesh, Morocco, Oman, Lebanon, Qatar, Iran, Mexico and other countries.
          Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after the vote called what was happening "a continuation of the theater of the absurdity of UNESCO" and added that "the organization has lost its legitimacy."
          "To say that Israel is not related to the Temple Mount or the Wailing Wall, it is as if to say that China is not related to the Great Wall of China, and Egypt to the pyramids," Netanyahu said.
          http://www.interfax.ru/world/532396
          http://www.interfax.ru/russia/532469

          The UNESCO resolution recognizes two Jewish shrines - the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron and the Tomb of Rachel in Bethlehem - "an integral part of Palestine."
          https://russian.rt.com/article/125451

          pysy. Well, where the loopholes looked Great "Chinese" .. it has long been clear
          pysy 1. This is the reason for the trump demarche of UNESCO?
        3. urganov
          urganov 19 October 2017 09: 20 New
          +1
          What is the deceit of cards? Show false. Then we'll talk.
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 18 October 2017 15: 51 New
      +6
      Moving away all of Israel away from our BV, for example, across the ocean to their owners and BV, there will be fewer terrorists and it will be more convenient for them to wave to the owners.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 18 October 2017 16: 35 New
        0
        And the USA is like the masters of Israel? )))
        I'll know :)
        In the Knesset, the American lobby, the nominal capital of the country in the hands of the United States, Israel pays the US part of the defense budget ....
        Parallel universe )))))
    7. Maz
      Maz 18 October 2017 18: 18 New
      0
      We will think about their proposal.
    8. Maz
      Maz 18 October 2017 18: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Thrall
      There is another option to push the borders of Israel.

      What are you? There are so many bases poked, weapons brought into the mine workings, ammunition for a hundred and twenty years laid down for peaceful life, and the United States will not tolerate this - they will take the entire population into the Nevada desert. , there is a lot of land, not enough water and space for the use of ingenious abilities, where is Moses!
  2. Holoy
    Holoy 18 October 2017 15: 37 New
    +1
    Everything is correct. And ideally, they need to sign a peace treaty in general! This is beneficial primarily for the IRGC and Hezbollah!
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 18 October 2017 15: 50 New
      +4
      Ideally, you need to create a Kurdish State, the territory now called Syria, divided according to ethnic principle. In general, this is what is happening. Any event has its own logic of development. And what is happening in Syria is no exception. The only state that does not need anything in Syria except the security of its own borders is Israel. And the territory of Syria in the pre-war borders cannot be returned. It's fantastic.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 October 2017 15: 58 New
        18
        Quote: Rogue1812
        the territory now called Syria, divided according to ethnic principle.

        Divider of another's good, maybe Israel is better to divide ah?
        Quote: Rogue1812
        the territory now called Syria, divided according to ethnic principle.

        But the pens would have warmed up. laughing
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 18 October 2017 16: 19 New
        14
        Israel must necessarily be divided in this way to end its occupation of Arab Palestine, and our president completely agrees with this:
        Putin: Palestine has the right to create a sovereign state
        In a telegram posted on the Kremlin’s website, the president stresses the legitimacy of the Palestinian people’s right to “an independent, viable, territorially integrated state with its capital in East Jerusalem”.

        “Russia will continue to contribute to this goal, acting both through bilateral channels and in multilateral formats, including the Quartet of international mediators,” Putin added.
        http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/1477457
      3. faiver
        faiver 18 October 2017 16: 26 New
        +2
        and what is fantastic there?
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 18 October 2017 18: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Rogue1812
        it is necessary to create a Kurdish State, the territory now called Syria, divided according to ethnic principle

        Lovers of freebies, do not want to create Kurdistan in Israel?
        Quote: Rogue1812
        The only state that does not need anything in Syria except the security of its own borders is Israel.

        Well yes? Are you fearing an attack that destroyed the Syrian S-200 air defense system near Damascus?
        Israeli Air Force aircraft destroyed the air defense battery of the Syrian army east of Damascus, Haaretz reports with reference to the IDF press service.
  3. Primoos
    Primoos 18 October 2017 15: 37 New
    +4
    Five meters would have been enough.
  4. anjey
    anjey 18 October 2017 15: 39 New
    +3
    and in exchange for the obligation to buy C400 from us, now it is BV fashion trend of the year ....
    1. figwam
      figwam 18 October 2017 15: 46 New
      +2
      Why bind? It was after 59 tomahawks did not reach the goal, even our enemies began to line themselves up for this complex.
  5. Komsomol
    Komsomol 18 October 2017 15: 42 New
    +5
    and agreed to create a strip (without the IRGC and Hezbollah) up to 15 km wide.
    A little now guns can shoot further. 21 century, not 17 ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 October 2017 15: 47 New
      +6
      Therefore, Israel requested 40 km. This is an approximate radius of the Grad.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 18 October 2017 15: 49 New
        +3
        The question is what he will offer in return. Now it’s not the 90s, thank God, and just like that, we won’t do anything.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 18 October 2017 15: 51 New
        12
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, Israel requested 40 km. This is an approximate radius of the Grad.

        In short, Russia once again simply "spurred" on Israel and its Wishlist laughing
        In the end, the parties agreed that neither the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) nor Hezbollah would approach Israel’s borders in the Golan Heights closer than 10-15 km
        http://9tv.co.il/news/2017/10/18/249330.html

        In fact, Russia has once again confirmed that Hezbollah and Iran are much more important to it than Israel smile
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 18 October 2017 15: 56 New
          +9
          What can you do ... Russia is constantly associated with different ... recourse That
          in the end it is rolled. They don’t pay for weapons, and after fraternal help -
          driven by a kick. What is the first time?
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 18 October 2017 16: 00 New
            17
            Quote: voyaka uh
            What can you do ... Russia is constantly associated with different ...

            And it says an Israeli Jew from a territorial entity called Israel in which the Nazi-terrorist party of Ukraine Yarosh "Right Sector" is not a terrorist organization and even local Jews "serve" in it? lol
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 18 October 2017 16: 04 New
              +9
              We also made mistakes: helping Lebanese Christians
              cost us dearly. And Hamas at first seemed peaceful
              an organization only concerned with the creation of kindergartens. sad
              1. LAWNER
                LAWNER 18 October 2017 17: 21 New
                +2
                It seems to me that Hamas and Fatah are a relic of the past. And Hezbollah is a real player, only under the roof of the powers that be. Although they gradually move away from the military and begin to advance to the legislative bodies.
                Not a secret? Likud also started?
          2. Maz
            Maz 18 October 2017 18: 22 New
            +3
            Well, enlighten, warrior, whom Russia helped and who kicked in the ass. Let the warrior cut the truth of the uterus. Very interesting. But our state of Israel with you just does nothing to anyone, and if it does, it’s under the cameras of the TV channels.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 18 October 2017 15: 58 New
          +7
          Quote: quilted jacket

          In fact, Russia has once again confirmed that Hezbollah and Iran are much more important to it than Israel

          And in my opinion, the Russian Federation went towards Israel and intends to take into account its interests. One hundred can not but rejoice.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 18 October 2017 16: 09 New
            11
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And in my opinion, the Russian Federation went towards Israel and intends to take into account its interests.

            Has it expanded the area where Hezbollah and Iran will not be from 5 to 10-15 kilometers? laughing
            Aaron, don’t tell me, but you understand perfectly well that this is only a profanity designed to "shut up" the Israeli cheers so that they feel the importance of Israel and themselves lol
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 18 October 2017 16: 42 New
              +5
              Of course, you are sorry, but for my three-year life in the Russian Federation, profanities in order to make the population feel their significance are widely used in Russia. With a huge number of internal problems, most of which no one even tries to solve.
          2. Maz
            Maz 18 October 2017 18: 29 New
            +2
            Rather
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: quilted jacket

            In fact, Russia has once again confirmed that Hezbollah and Iran are much more important to it than Israel

            And in my opinion, the Russian Federation went towards Israel and intends to take into account its interests. One hundred can not but rejoice.

            Rather, Israel barked, they say, they forgot me, and we are polite people, we are used to taking into account system complexes with all the little things, well, we paid attention. Why do we need another headache. Let’s buy and all the short life. Money is everything for the Jews. So no problem. And Putin, he always makes offers that are hard to refuse. The GDP has already calmed down the nitanyagu by telephone. We will see. But it probably tells me that sho Nverian arrogance will continue.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 October 2017 16: 38 New
          +1
          And hezbalons zigirut garneau)))
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 18 October 2017 17: 58 New
            +7
            Quote: Krasnodar
            And hezbalons zigirut garneau)))

            Ziguyut with your right hand if you are not in the know.
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Of course, you are sorry, but for my three-year life in the Russian Federation, profanities in order to make the population feel their significance are widely used in Russia. With a huge number of internal problems, most of which no one even tries to solve.

            Yes, yes, yes, continue the usual song about pensioners in hospitals and about broken roads.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 18 October 2017 23: 31 New
              0
              [quote = quilted jacket] [quote = Krasnodar] And hezbalons zigirut garneau))) [/ quote]
              Ziguyut with your right hand if you are not in the know.
              And left show "Hello Kibalchishu"?
              [quote = Krasnodar] Of course, you are sorry, but for my three-year life in Russia, profanities with the goal of making the population feel their significance are widely used in Russia. With a huge number of internal problems, most of which no one even tries to solve. [/ Quote]
              Yes, yes, yes, continue the usual song about pensioners in hospitals and about broken roads. [/
              I did not specify.
            2. zoolu350
              zoolu350 19 October 2017 00: 56 New
              +1
              And what, there are no emergency hospitals and broken roads in the Russian Federation? Vatnik, you certainly kick the Zionists (fascists), you are honored and honored, but watching how you sometimes whitewash the actions of the Russian oligarchy, which is partnering with these Zionists (fascists), is not pleasant.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 October 2017 16: 01 New
        +7
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, Israel requested 40 km. This is an approximate radius of the Grad.

        He asked 40 to get 15. Politics. laughing 42 km from our Damascus border. It is clear that it is not realistic to get such a security band.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 18 October 2017 16: 30 New
          +7
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          He asked 40 to get 15. Politics. laughing 42 km from our border Damascus. It is clear that it is not realistic to get such a security band.

          Trying to make an excuse? In the 10-15 kilometer zone, only fighters and bases of Hezbollah and Iran will not be located, and the Syrian army will be present there and the main Hezbollah MLRSs already in 2006 hit a range of more than 20 kilometers.

          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 18 October 2017 16: 41 New
            +5
            "and the Syrian army will be present there" ///

            The Syrian army does not bother us at all. They are disciplined and intelligent people, and
            they know for sure that the answer always arrives immediately.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 18 October 2017 18: 00 New
              +8
              Quote: voyaka uh
              The Syrian army does not bother us at all. They are disciplined and intelligent people, and
              they know for sure that the answer always arrives immediately.

              That's right, but the Syrian army you used to strike while it is at war, because the support of ISIS terrorists is the main goal of Israel lol
            2. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 19: 37 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "and the Syrian army will be present there" ///

              The Syrian army does not bother us at all. They are disciplined people ...

              That is why you are constantly firing at them? As kindergarten badasses - the main thing, sobbing to poke a finger with a cry: "he is the first to start-a-al"! Moreover, it is not clear who started something, but it was necessary to fire at the positions of the ATS.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 18 October 2017 16: 42 New
            +5
            Quote: quilted jacket

            Trying to make an excuse? Only the militants and bases of Hezbollah and Iran will not be located in the 10-15 kilometer zone and the Syrian army will be present there and the main Hezbollah MLRSs already hit 2006 kilometers in 20.]

            Yes, at least on 40. Through the Golan plateau, no MLRS will reach the cities of Israel. But it is not important. The main thing is that there will be no daily problems at the border. And in the event of a conflict, we will solve our problems.
            1. ver_
              ver_ 18 October 2017 17: 44 New
              +2
              ..that horseradish knows her, and the cow flies, and what missiles for the PC30 can lie in a * cover * ...
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 18 October 2017 18: 09 New
              +6
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Yes, at least on 40. Through the Golan plateau, no MLRS will reach the cities of Israel. But it is not important. The main thing is that there will be no daily problems at the border. And in the event of a conflict, we will solve our problems.

              Do you seriously believe that Hezbollah and even less so Iran will not be able to bombard your military bases with Demon and cities that are further than 40 kilometers? lol
              Hezbollah fighters have long had rockets that shoot through ALL of Israel.
            3. Maz
              Maz 18 October 2017 18: 32 New
              +5
              You have already solved the problems in Lebanon. Now Hezbollah’s arsenal is able to devastate the north of Israel, and in a protracted confrontation that Israel like a sickle in the neck
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 18 October 2017 21: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: Maz
                You have already solved the problems in Lebanon. Now Hezbollah’s arsenal is able to devastate the north of Israel, and in a protracted confrontation that Israel like a sickle in the neck

                Maz, I understand that in Ukraine vitamin deficiency may occur, but don’t worry. The main thing is you are at home in Dnepropetrovsk.
      4. Maz
        Maz 18 October 2017 18: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, Israel requested 40 km. This is an approximate radius of the Grad.

        Well then, let Israel push its troops from the border for 40 km through garlic, what? Weak? Unacceptably? Why is it so one-sided?
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 19: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Maz
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Therefore, Israel requested 40 km. This is an approximate radius of the Grad.

          Well then, let Israel push its troops from the border for 40 km through garlic, what? Weak? Unacceptably? Why is it so one-sided?

          But do not compare the white-fluffy God's chosen ones with some there ....!
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 18 October 2017 15: 43 New
    +9
    If the official report is not, then you can gab and compose indefinitely.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 18 October 2017 15: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Egorovich
      If the official report is not, then you can gab and compose indefinitely.

      Do you have a printout of secret negotiations or is it enough for a regular transcript?)))
      When the defense ministries published official reports on such topics ... If they publish, then there is a maximum of something from the series: "We agreed to deepen cooperation on a whole range of issues." And because in the media they write everything that has been leaked or that they have joined themselves in the conditions of a lack of official information.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 18 October 2017 15: 59 New
        +8
        Then there’s nothing to talk about - 5,10 or 100 kilometers, and time will tell the truth or not. Fortune telling on coffee grounds.
    2. LAWNER
      LAWNER 18 October 2017 16: 07 New
      +3
      There will be no report .... The only thing they say on the websites of the defense ministries of both countries is that there is an agreement, and it is still under development.
      But there are media that reliably know from unknown sources that the unknown agreement is now known to all unknowns.)))
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 18 October 2017 16: 11 New
        +9
        All is correct. One woman said.
  7. bald
    bald 18 October 2017 15: 45 New
    +1
    And what do they mean (borders) Dutch heights? Usually, when someone thinks that he smells, they say to him: "... go to hell and the smell will go away with you."
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 15: 58 New
      +3
      Come on man ... go away!
      1. bald
        bald 18 October 2017 16: 04 New
        +7
        Offended ?! - Looks like a patriot - I respect patriots. In general, I'm at home in Russia, but someone starts to openly bargain.
        1. Neksel
          Neksel 18 October 2017 21: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: bald
          Actually, I'm at home in Russia,

          And I thought that in Holland ...
          Quote: bald
          And what do they mean (boundaries) Gollanдsky heights?

          Quote: bald
          but someone starts frankly bаto laugh.
  8. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 October 2017 15: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: anjey
    and in exchange for the obligation to buy C400 from us, now it is BV fashion trend of the year ....

    Well, firstly, we don’t have any right to tell a foreign state what to do, it’s Syria, and it has the right to decide who to be there. Secondly, the United States supplies weapons to Israel for FREE, by agreement. And show me the Jew who will choose fee, with an alternative delivery. Let even the worst in quality. It was not I who said Yasha Kedmi. And that’s it.
    1. anjey
      anjey 18 October 2017 16: 20 New
      +1
      this is the sweet word of a freebie, who doesn't love him on earth?
  9. Beitar
    Beitar 18 October 2017 15: 59 New
    0
    We are 40, they are 15! Okay, let's meet in the middle of 27.5 km.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 18 October 2017 18: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Beitar
      Okay, let's meet in the middle of 27.5 km.
      laughing s-400 nnado ?! wassat
      1. Beitar
        Beitar 18 October 2017 18: 20 New
        +1
        But what can it do?
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 18 October 2017 18: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Beitar
          But what can it do?
          Well, let's say it can expand the boundaries of the owner ..... lol
          1. Beitar
            Beitar 18 October 2017 19: 02 New
            +3
            Are you out of your mind? Why should we feed another million Arabs? Better give something that would be 40 km to our border, not who could not come.
            I feel sorry for the taxes paid to .... even Arabs who do not know how to fight. Better already on education, or medicine.
  10. igorra
    igorra 18 October 2017 16: 09 New
    +6
    Did the Jewry smell fried? With the Saudis and the Americans could not crush Syria, and that’s
    it's time to collect stones.
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 18 October 2017 16: 29 New
      +7
      By the word "Syria" whom do you mean? Sunnis, of whom 78% and who fiercely hate Assad and Shiites, whom the Russian Federation supports in their interests? Or Assad? Will Russia forever support this non-viable regime, hated by the Arab world? By the way, this world hates Iran much more than Israel! Will Russia forever maneuver inside this psychiatric hospital? What are the prospects?
      1. Maz
        Maz 18 October 2017 18: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: Aspid 57
        By the word "Syria" whom do you mean? Sunnis, of whom 78% and who fiercely hate Assad and Shiites, whom the Russian Federation supports in their interests? Or Assad? Will Russia forever support this non-viable regime, hated by the Arab world? By the way, this world hates Iran much more than Israel! Will Russia forever maneuver inside this psychiatric hospital? What are the prospects?

        The prospect is simple, on a large scale: the southern stream, the northern stream and the Sino-Indian stream, and will pull a trillion bucks a trifle. And leave sentiment for the Sunnis, Shiites and Israel inside Syria. They will find how to reassure and how to agree, if only they would not climb outside.
    2. Neksel
      Neksel 18 October 2017 21: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: igorra
      For jews

      Let's follow the tongue and express ourselves respecting ourselves and our interlocutors.
  11. vearey
    vearey 18 October 2017 16: 22 New
    +4
    Well, the natural result of "standing your own." The Iranians got a kick, but what they deserved, it was not necessary to substitute the Russian military. Israel got its own, in the form of a kick to the Iranians, and Russia got its own, they will be able to continue to sell their air defense, and tell that it covers 100%.
  12. VadimSt
    VadimSt 18 October 2017 16: 35 New
    +4
    In order to feel safe and demand something from others, Israel needs to comply with UN Resolution No. 181, on the creation of two unnamed states in the territory of Palestine: Jewish and Arab, or else they’ve settled the “lodger,” and he kicked out the owners and it doesn’t let neighbors live!
    And all the lamentations about the “historical promised land,” with two thousand years ago, are worthless - in the recent past, the Indians belonged to two continents, and in the distant past, the migration routes of peoples to Europe went from Africa, through the Middle East, Asia and territory of modern Russia. What, give everything according to the "piece of the promised land" on the entire migration path.
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 18 October 2017 16: 49 New
      +5
      Well, let the Arabs build their state! Yes, in 1948, Egypt and Jordan grabbed these pieces and nobody cared! But in 1967, Israel threw them out of there! There is a Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza, where there are no Jews at all! What's the matter? Do not want to lose the international feeder and start living at their own expense? By the way, they do not recognize a single square meter of Israel!
  13. vvp2412
    vvp2412 18 October 2017 16: 42 New
    +3
    I propose pushing the borders of Eustan into the country! Everyone will live a calmer life! And let the annexed territories be surrendered!
    1. Neksel
      Neksel 18 October 2017 21: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: vvp2412
      eurestan

      Stop distorting. In relation to the name of their country, here all in a chorus immediately begin to jump, change only the letter.
      So let's all be respectful. Do not stoop to a quick level.
      God ... what once turned into an excellent forum.
      If the same trend of the "generation of victims of the exam" is visible in the general population of the country, then
      It remains only to sympathize with Russia.
      Damn here got "iksperdov" ...
      although such arousal is mainly only at the mention of Israel ...

      Quote: vvp2412
      I propose pushing the borders of Eustan into the country! Everyone will live a calmer life! And let the annexed territories be surrendered!

      Only after you.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 18 October 2017 21: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Neksel
        Damn here got "iksperdov" ...

        Yours?
        Well, it’s not clear from what happened, with the wildest opuses addressed to Russia, because it’s such an attitude towards you too?
        Quote: Neksel
        If the same trend of the "generation of victims of the exam" is visible in the general population of the country, then

        Sorry.
        If you argue like you, then the vast majority of your compatriots dancing here on the site behave as a kind of community offended and hit than that, so you will apologize to people for your very very crooked conclusions.
        1. Neksel
          Neksel 18 October 2017 22: 39 New
          0
          Quote: badens1111
          Sorry.

          Before whom? Before who first insulted me and my country?
          Running stumble, hair back.
          Quote: badens1111
          Yours?

          Yes, no ... in the last year, an influx here ... (especially in recent months, starting from July 27, 2017 at 17:13) laughing
          Quote: badens1111
          Well, it’s not clear from what happened, with the wildest opuses addressed to Russia, because it’s such an attitude towards you too?

          you confuse causation, sir.
    2. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 18 October 2017 21: 58 New
      +1
      I reject the proposal on behalf of the State of Israel.
  14. Lesorub
    Lesorub 18 October 2017 16: 54 New
    +2
    Muddy undercover arrangements, usually the interested party travels to settle or ask for something - a strange trip to Shoigu - however!
  15. igorra
    igorra 18 October 2017 16: 55 New
    +6
    Quote: Aspid 57
    By the word "Syria" whom do you mean? Sunnis, of whom 78% and who fiercely hate Assad and Shiites, whom the Russian Federation supports in their interests? Or Assad? Will Russia forever support this non-viable regime, hated by the Arab world? By the way, this world hates Iran much more than Israel! Will Russia forever maneuver inside this psychiatric hospital? What are the prospects?

    Tell tales to the Jews: according to yours, 22% of loyal Assad who had fought before this for 5 years with the whole world and Jews including you, despite the losses, even with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, smashed this whole colossus of world terrorism, who didn’t even have a good rest and treated in the resorts and clinics of Israel? Something the American coalition is stalling.
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 18 October 2017 17: 22 New
      +3
      For 5 years, Shiite police and Alawites fought with the enemy very poorly equipped! And when Russia intervened it smelled of complete defeat! About 50 aircraft were enough for Russia to reverse the situation! I believe that 750 Israeli will be able to no less! Only the wounded were treated in Israel! And mainly women and children! In the USSR, too, wounded Germans were treated, including SS men! What's next? In ISIS and Jebhat en Nusra, foreigners are no more than 40%! The rest is Syria! Genuine! And not the one that is present in propaganda hallucinations!
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 18 October 2017 17: 44 New
        0
        In addition, various Sunni militants fought not only with Assad, but also with each other.
      2. Lesorub
        Lesorub 18 October 2017 20: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Aspid 57
        For 5 years, Shiite police and Alawites fought with the enemy very poorly equipped! And when Russia intervened it smelled of complete defeat! About 50 aircraft were enough for Russia to reverse the situation! I believe that 750 Israeli will be able to no less! Only the wounded were treated in Israel! And mainly women and children! In the USSR, too, wounded Germans were treated, including SS men! What's next? In ISIS and Jebhat en Nusra, foreigners are no more than 40%! The rest is Syria! Genuine! And not the one that is present in propaganda hallucinations!

        Sir, yes you are joking! ))) I especially liked this welter (Jebhat en Nusra foreigners no more than 40%), where did such numbers come from as a percentage ??? ))))
  16. DEPARTMENT
    DEPARTMENT 18 October 2017 17: 06 New
    +6
    How Israel Is Afraid of Iran Yet! They brought many troubles and shed blood "our chosen ones" in the Middle East ..
    They are afraid that Arabs will rally around Iran and Syria and will avenge everything! No, in order to agree normally and repent, no, they are again intriguing and they want to substitute Russia.
    Watch out there with them Shoigu!
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 18 October 2017 17: 16 New
      +4
      Arabs rally around Iran! ))))) Oh, thanks ! Have fun!))) But Russia plans to rally around Iran?)))
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 18 October 2017 18: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Aspid 57
        Arabs rally around Iran! ))))) Oh, thanks ! Have fun!))) But Russia plans to rally around Iran?)))

        Well, now the "comrades from Israel" and their singers will sing about the Sunnis, Shiites, Persians, Saudis, Kurds ... etc. The slogan of Israel and the United States remained the same "Divide and conquer!"
        Did I put it right?
        The USSR had a slogan on the Coat of Arms "Workers of all countries, unite.!"
        And the same essentially remained in Russia .. So gentlemen, "exceptional" get ready!
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 19 October 2017 01: 07 New
          0
          The Russian Federation has the slogan on the emblem: the oligarchs of all countries unite.
    2. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 17: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      Afraid Arabs rally around Iran and Syria

      Well, who pulls your tongue? laughing
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 October 2017 17: 50 New
      +2
      Arabs sleep and see how to smash Iran)))) Israel for them is a common enemy, a unifying factor, one of the few. They mainly cut each other - Shiites of the Sunnis, religious secular, Ba'ath traditionalists, etc.
      To defeat Israel, new generations must be born, differently educated and living in a different socio-social system. In the current state of things, they are able to cause Jews only painful, but minor problems.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 18 October 2017 18: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        To defeat Israel, new generations must be born, differently educated and living in a different socio-social system. In the current state of things, they are able to cause Jews only painful, but minor problems.

        You directly idealize Israel (or rather, they themselves in their world media), a familiar song and for a long time hehe ..
        No wonder the Jews were shaking so much when they actually started to free Syria and the most interesting thing was that the generals suddenly began to perish ours, the Iranian, Syrian most experienced and fighting ..!
        Russia will unite the Arabs and as if their Israel did not expose the near and wild in the world media
        They will have to reckon with them on equal terms .. Your time ends gentlemen! Get ready ... Better run around the world .. hehe
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 October 2017 18: 26 New
          +2
          I lived in Israel for about 25 years and, of course, I do not idealize it))) In comparison with other developed countries - Germany, the USA, Switzerland, Sigapur and others, which are in the top ten in the HDI, Israel lags behind in many respects (but by no means for all).
          About how the Jews were shaking-this is someone's Wishlist)))
          Everyone in the army serves, with the fighting - at the front or in the rear, most of the country's population has encountered.
          At the same time, the economic and military power of the country is growing, and so far the Arabs scatter around the world))))
          Do not wishful thinking, this is not good. )))
          1. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 18 October 2017 18: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            I’ve lived in Israel for about 25 years and, of course, I don’t idealize it

            Well, all the questions are gone ...! laughing soldier
  17. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 17: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: figvam
    slightly larger than the Kaliningrad region

    Half of the territory of Israel is the Negev desert (60% of the territory), so East Prussia looks much preferable in a geographical sense laughing

    Well, they have a love of the desert, what to do! They like to walk on it, think ... Sometimes we walked for 40 years!
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 18: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Evrodav
      They like to walk on it, think ...

      And also grow vegetables for the Russian market. 3 (three) agricultural farms are just ... all over Russia! Three ... in the desert ....
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 19: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Beitar
        And also grow vegetables for the Russian market. 3 (three) agricultural farms are just ... all over Russia! Three ... in the desert ....

        Oh, oh, oh! Shmovoshch vegetables! Breadwinners! Peremoga! A drop in the sea. Yes, it's just a veiled handout to you, as the USSR assisted Cuba by buying the necessary cane sugar from it. lol
        1. Beitar
          Beitar 18 October 2017 20: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Peremoga!

          professional troll! Apparently just left the topic of Ukraine.
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Yes, it's just a veiled handout to you, as the USSR provided assistance to Cuba by buying the necessary cane sugar from it.

          So the amount of idiocy since the times of the USSR has not decreased, did you want to tell me this? Well, I willingly believe it.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 20: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Beitar
            professional troll!

            If I’m not chanting: "Israel is over a mustache!"
            Quote: Beitar
            So the amount of idiocy since the times of the USSR has not decreased, did you want to tell me this? Well, I willingly believe it.

            But continue to sell vegetables-shmovoshchami?
            Okay, don’t shout. Throw a like on promotion ...
            1. Beitar
              Beitar 18 October 2017 20: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              лайк

              Say it in Russian
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 21: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Beitar
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                лайк

                Say it in Russian

                Oh branded! Oh, pinned the label! Are you from Israel, not from the USSR?
                כמו. Is it better or try in Yiddish?
                Keep another one on poverty. From the breadth of my Russian soul! lol
                1. Beitar
                  Beitar 18 October 2017 21: 31 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  כמו

                  And how did bourgeois google translate this word into Russian? And what is the relationship between this word and like in Russian?
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Keep another one on poverty. From the breadth of my Russian soul!

                  Do you still keep showing off your ignorance to me?
                  1. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 18 October 2017 21: 50 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Beitar
                    And how did bourgeois google translate this word into Russian? And what is the relationship between this word and like in Russian?

                    Yandex translate. Some kind of setup recourse
                    I was asked in Hebrew: "Do you speak Hebrew?"
                    And I said in pure Yiddish: "What are you, in nature? Can't you see it yourself?" tongue
                    Quote: Beitar

                    Do you still keep showing off your ignorance to me?

                    By the way, do you own the necessary mob? Teach, be affectionate. And I for this again cast you down (appreciated the pun? wassat)
  18. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 17: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: Beitar
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    Afraid Arabs rally around Iran and Syria

    Well, who pulls your tongue? laughing

    Are you afraid? Do not like the truth? But in vain, get used to it!
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 18: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Evrodav
      Are you afraid?

      No, I want to live up to this moment when the Persians and Arabs will unite. Ie I will live forever!
      Quote: Evrodav
      Do not like the truth?

      unlike you, I know her.
      Quote: Evrodav
      But in vain, get used to it!

      Stop your flow of consciousness towards me.
  19. XXXIII
    XXXIII 18 October 2017 17: 29 New
    +2
    How to understand this logic ?! fool .... Israel asks the min.ob.Rossii give them a little border belay ...... something went wrong with the Jews ... wassat
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 October 2017 17: 36 New
      +6
      Well, actually this is the Russian Ministry of Defense came to Israel.
      So he also had something to ask from us. When at Netanyahu
      there were requests, he did not hesitate to come to Putin.
      This is normal. It’s better to agree on mutual misunderstandings in advance,
      than getting an unexpected escalation.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 18 October 2017 17: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        This is normal.
        Yes, of course, the arrival of mi.ob. has already taken place, since everything has already been decided, a stupid visit of courtesy and formality ..... well, plans for the future have been frayed there, otherwise everything happens ... hi
      2. Maz
        Maz 18 October 2017 18: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Well, actually this is the Russian Ministry of Defense came to Israel.
        So he also had something to ask from us. When at Netanyahu
        there were requests, he did not hesitate to come to Putin.
        This is normal. It’s better to agree on mutual misunderstandings in advance,
        than getting an unexpected escalation.

        Actually, the visit was planned in advance. It’s just that Israel arranged a show for him in Syria. Begging again. We wonderfully understand that Israel is not a friend of Russia. Therefore, we will use it regardless of your poison, nor emotions and knowledge of the Russian language. If you want capitalism, we have it.
  20. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 17: 31 New
    0
    Quote: vvp2412
    I propose pushing the borders of Eustan into the country! Everyone will live a calmer life! And let the annexed territories be surrendered!

    We are all for it, but they still say that it’s not them, they forced them ...
  21. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 17: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Beitar
    world

    Not ham, you are marked with a seal! Go yourself! Nobody is waiting for you here ...
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 18: 10 New
      +1
      you are tired of me smile So be it, I point blank you no longer!
  22. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 17: 35 New
    0
    Quote: figvam
    Why bind? It was after 59 tomahawks did not reach the goal, even our enemies began to line themselves up for this complex.

    Damn, maybe the Jews stole these 59 axes, right in the air? These can! Shoigu must be warned so that he checks his pockets and his watch with a wallet ...
  23. nikolaev
    nikolaev 18 October 2017 17: 36 New
    0
    We will see who comes to Rabinovich ....
  24. nikolaev
    nikolaev 18 October 2017 17: 38 New
    0
    it’s time to support Israel in its eternal aspirations and erase this under-state of money bags from the face of the Earth
  25. nikolaev
    nikolaev 18 October 2017 17: 40 New
    0
    we’ll see who to whom Rabinovich ....
  26. Best
    Best 18 October 2017 17: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Ideally, you need to create a Kurdish State, the territory now called Syria, divided according to ethnic principle. In general, this is what is happening. Any event has its own logic of development. And what is happening in Syria is no exception. The only state that does not need anything in Syria except the security of its own borders is Israel. And the territory of Syria in the pre-war borders cannot be returned. It's fantastic.


    The thing is that with the increasing influence of Russia in the Middle East and the events that have begun in the countries of the Mediterranean region, which are determined, the influence of the United States has already significantly decreased and this is only the beginning. The only faithful dog Israel will inevitably be either resettled in a puddle, or only formally remain a country reduced to a deserted place. Israel has made too many enemies. Kara will be deserved. And his US roof will only hiss in stupid stomp and stomp his feet, but no more, for the UN Security Council will not allow Israel to remain within the UN. Therefore, Israel should now be on the road to stay alive. No way without it.
  27. wot
    wot 18 October 2017 18: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: csdvsv
    right, you need to immerse all Hamasniks and Islamic Jihad on the Kuzyu smokehouse and send them to their patrons in the Caucasus; let you have more Khattabs and other fighters with occupants

    be engaged in loading - do not tear your navel lol
  28. wot
    wot 18 October 2017 18: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: csdvsv
    in exchange for your shortage of 500 meters of ichthyomes in the tartus we will not smash it to pieces because it is much simpler than ordinary long-range artillery and none with 400 and 500 and a thousand will help

    change the flag, "Hercules" flimsy lol from under the sofa it’s not scary to threaten laughing
  29. Maz
    Maz 18 October 2017 18: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Beitar
    Quote: Evrodav
    They like to walk on it, think ...

    And also grow vegetables for the Russian market. 3 (three) agricultural farms are just ... all over Russia! Three ... in the desert ....

    Pga, to whom are you telling? But shko narrow-eyed work there? Farms in their desert. Accustomed to driving only along the tracks, occasionally glancing from the car windows
    1. Beitar
      Beitar 18 October 2017 19: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      But shko narrow-eyed work there?

      Jordanians work there yes!
      Quote: Maz
      You’re accustomed to driving only along the tracks, occasionally glancing from the car windows

      And why, will I see you? Not great happiness.
  30. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 18 October 2017 18: 38 New
    +1
    I would not be surprised if, after this visit, Shoigu will head the Russian government. I would really like that. Looks at his libermans, despite their provocations, went seemingly smoothly. He looked like a peace-loving general, as required. He was also approved in China, in Japan, too, and the Atlantists are no longer interested in us. From India, too, approved. God forbid change Me-va!
  31. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 October 2017 18: 39 New
    0
    And what did Comrade ask Shoigu at comrade Netanyahu?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 October 2017 22: 51 New
      +2
      I personally think: do not "overthrow" Assad. Not by a direct method, of course, but by a military opportunity to drastically weaken it so much that its internal enemies "eat it". Do not forget that the militants control the suburbs of Damascus, from there they sometimes land from mortars at the Russian embassy. Russia bet on Assad and asks her not to interfere in this bet.
      And I guess Nataniyahu agreed. In return, Russia will not respond to Israeli clashes with Hezbollah, Shiite militias from Iraq in Syria, the IRGC and with Iran itself.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 18 October 2017 23: 43 New
        0
        He is already weakened, without the supply of equipment and ammunition from the Russian Federation and the support of the Air Force, he is still weak. No need to destroy the Air Force and Air Defense ...
        For this, Israel needs to specifically enter without a flight zone and protect the Islamists from the raids of the Russian Air Force. Then train and treat the militants on the thumb. I think Israel did it on a small scale.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 October 2017 09: 38 New
          +1
          "and protect the Islamists from the air raids of the Russian Federation." /////

          About this, Israel and Russia agreed two years ago.
          So that the military aircraft of the two countries do not "collide" over Syria.
          Mutual raid warnings.
  32. Livonetc
    Livonetc 18 October 2017 18: 41 New
    +1
    In BV, Russia has publicly proven its ability to compromise with all parties except minke whales.
    Yes, and with stripes behind the scenes clearly there is an agreement.
    Israel is one of the main elements of the Middle East knot.
    Without an agreement with them, there will never be peace in BV.
    Now the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Defense Ministry and other structures of Russia are just working on a comprehensive solution to the problems of BV.

    PS And once again I notice for myself that “controlled” democracy for Russia is not bad.
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  34. Old26
    Old26 18 October 2017 21: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Some illogical demand-proposal of Israel to the Russian Federation.
    How exactly does the Israeli leadership imagine this ?!
    The Islamic Revolutionary Guard corps and the Hezbollah group will in any case bend their line - regardless of Russia - after all, Israel’s policy towards neighboring states and non-Jewish peoples, in principle, does not historically change, but only expands Zionist!

    How to bend your line. You carefully read some of the statements on the VO. here, some consider Iran almost the closest ally of Russia and are ready to fill it with weapons. And you say "they will not be counted"

    In principle, there is logic to this. The opinion of Russia will be brought to the leadership of Iran. This is what Iran’s reaction will be - it’s difficult to predict. Iran also wants to dominate the region and extend its influence to as many countries as possible

    Quote: To be or not to be
    As usual, an attempt to solve their internal problems with the wrong hands. Is Russia necessary ??
    Yes, and strange - where does the MO Shoigu?

    And Shoigu? It is more noticeable in the Russian political horizon than most politicians. At least more significant and noticeable than Medvedev and Rogozin
    Well, the problems of Israel will certainly be taken into account by the Russian side. This is even better for Syria. There will be no shelling by the IRGC and Hezbollah of Israeli territory - there will be no rivals in the direction of Syria. Normal bargaining. "You to us - we to you"
  35. MadCat
    MadCat 19 October 2017 05: 35 New
    +3
    the anti-sims simply hellishly burn a chair from the very fact of the negotiations, I hope they will tear them to British flags anyway laughing
  36. Alex K
    Alex K 23 October 2017 18: 40 New
    0
    Let Israel free the Golan Heights ....