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In the West, he is respected, in Russia he is hated. Paradox!

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Reformer Gorbachev, who "helped put an end to the Cold War," has no place in modern Russia. This is written in the major Western media.




In November, 2017 will mark 100 years of the October Revolution, which opened the Soviet era, writes Jennifer Klibbon (Jennifer Clibbon) on the site CBC News. The Communists ruled 74 of the year - that was how much the “Soviet empire” existed, the journalist points out.

In 1980, Mikhail Gorbachev decided to reform the Communist Party of the Soviet Union “from the inside,” thus marking his figure as the “era of political and economic restructuring,” which laid the foundation for the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the USSR.

A new biography book “Gorbachev: His Life and Epoch” by historian William Taubman has just been published. The journalist believes that this work gives "a convincing look at the last leader of the Soviet Union."

Taubman says Gorbachev "changed his country and changed the world."

86-year-old Gorbachev, who released his own memoirs ("I remain an optimist"), lives in Moscow. However, this prominent Soviet reformer is marginalized "in Vladimir Putin's autocratic Russia."

The book, Taubman, indicated in the material, recalls the “idealistic era” of the 1980s, when a very self-confident and relatively young leader of the Communist Party of the USSR decided to start reforms that “would help his country relieve the burden of the Stalinist past” and finally move on to the future .

Taubman speaks fluent Russian. He spoke with Gorbachev eight times, interviewed in tandem with his wife Jane, a teacher of Russian at a college in Massachusetts, where Taubman himself taught for decades.

The historian speaks of Gorbachev as follows: informal, naturally behaves, a person with a sense of humor. Taubman also noted that Gorbachev had not yet read his new book, but had already thanked him “from the bottom of his heart” for the letter.

This book seems to fill the gap: after all, there are very few Gorbachev biographies in Russia written by someone other than Gorbachev himself, believes Jennifer Klibbon. Such inattention to Gorbachev is explained by the paradoxical attitude towards him in his own country. There are many Russians who still admire him. But many of those who despise him - and these people will hardly be happy with an objective biography.

Gorbachev is much more admired in the West and even in Eastern Europe and much less in Russia. Western societies honor Gorbachev's great achievements: the destruction of totalitarianism, laying the foundations of democracy, the end of the Cold War. However, even those Russians who value these achievements cannot forget about the economic and social collapse, the collapse of the Soviet state and the loss of the Soviet empire.

As for the present and recent past, Gorbachev supported Putin’s candidacy for the presidency of Russia in 2000, however, he opposed his re-election in 2012. He criticized Putin’s authoritarian rule and compared Putin’s United Russia party with the Communist Party under L. Brezhnev.

Gorbachev was an "exceptional" Russian leader, as well as a world statesman, the journalist said. Still, Gorbachev’s view of the post-Cold War world, based as far as possible on the rejection of violence, was idealistic. Under Putin, Russia, "alas, has returned to its traditional authoritarian and anti-Western tradition."

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What paradox did the journalist Jennifer Klibbon reveal in relation to the Russians towards M. S. Gorbachev? Actually no. He is disliked (and this is the least) because of the economic disruption brought about by “perestroika”, the shortage of goods throughout the country, and the empty store shelves. This is said even by those who at one time liked “acceleration”, “publicity” and “restructuring”. That is why many Russians voted for Yeltsin at one time: he and his advisers promised the people all the benefits of the market, starting with plenty. True, they preferred not to specify that money would be needed for abundant life. Much money.

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  1. The black
    The black 18 October 2017 07: 34
    61
    No paradox. In the West, they always loved traitors, but in Russia they hated ... another question: Why does our country not judge him? This is our power that this one collapsed ..... Again, we are afraid that they will say beyond the hill ?!
    1. svp67
      svp67 18 October 2017 07: 37
      41
      Quote: Black
      No paradox

      Exactly. To whom he has brought him more benefit and RESPECT, but to whom grief and misfortune, he HATES him ... So choose which side you are on.
      By the way, in the West there are a lot of people who hate him the same, they are WHOM HE BIDED, who, not out of fear, but for conscience, did their job of building and defending socialism ... Most of these people were repressed and this "communist" has NOTHING did not, for their protection.
      1. The black
        The black 18 October 2017 07: 40
        15
        That is yes. "Reformed" would be so in the West - a long time ago I would have sat in an electric chair.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 October 2017 08: 27
          12
          And who loves traitors? , he betrayed his people and state, even if he did not understand then, he did not have the right to do so.
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 18 October 2017 08: 35
            37
            In the West, he is respected, in Russia he is hated. Paradox!

            In Russia, they not only hate him, they despise him. Like two other characters
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 18 October 2017 09: 22
              10
              Quote: 79807420129
              In the West, he is respected, in Russia he is hated. Paradox!

              In Russia, they not only hate him, they despise him. Like two other characters

              The constant frequency of such moral monsters coming to power is scary
              1. To be or not to be
                To be or not to be 18 October 2017 09: 54
                +5
                The strangest thing.
                There was a second world war. There was a victory and the world was judged by the leaders of the Reich. Who invaded the world in a world carnage
                There was a cold - a hot war. There were big losses from the countries of the former USSR. But Russia survived. It went up.
                Why is there no trial of those. Who plunged the country into this chaos and did not even give an official assessment of their actions. Surname ..
                The heiress of the CPSU — the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from whose bowels and under the leadership of the highest figures who made this chaos, is silent.
                1. BMP-2
                  BMP-2 18 October 2017 10: 21
                  11
                  "The Man Putting an End to the Cold War", Losing It Outright ...
              2. Tula gingerbread
                Tula gingerbread 18 October 2017 10: 37
                +6
                Yeah, that is what it is. True, the first two people did not choose, they were chosen by the nomenclature.
                But when the people were given the opportunity to choose, they were clearly seduced by the sweet speeches of Yeltsin and his accomplices.
          2. Jedi
            Jedi 18 October 2017 09: 14
            11
            Hi victor hi
            Reformer Gorbachev, who "helped put an end to the Cold War," has no place in modern Russia. This is written in the major Western media.

            What's so surprising? Now, if Reagan had collapsed the United States - what would the Western press write about him and what would be ours? yes
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 18 October 2017 17: 49
              +5
              Quote: Jedi
              Hi victor hi
              Reformer Gorbachev, who "helped put an end to the Cold War," has no place in modern Russia. This is written in the major Western media.

              What's so surprising? Now, if Reagan had collapsed the United States - what would the Western press write about him and what would be ours? yes

              lol lol lol good good good
          3. Partyzan
            Partyzan 18 October 2017 10: 22
            11
            Quote: cniza
            And who loves traitors?

            they are not needed anywhere
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 18 October 2017 11: 06
              +9
              Volodya, welcome hi And when Kennedy didn’t enter into a nuclear conflict with the USSR and saved America, they banged him. And this is not considered a paradox. How can one not recall the log and the straw. wink drinks
              R.S. You have Bob in your profile, I read how Vova, do you mind the feeling of tact or I read it correctly. drinks hi
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 18 October 2017 11: 30
                +5
                Quote: Svarog51
                R.S. You have Bob in your profile, I read how Vova, do you mind the feeling of tact or I read it correctly.

                reading - correct - offset laughing drinks hello, Sergey hi
                And this is not considered a paradox.
                don't confuse us - we and they laughing
                Anecdote on the occasion.

                Night. Dark street. Two. Go and brag
                their strength in front of each other.
                A lone passerby, peacefully walking, emerges towards
                past.
                “Come on,” one says, “fill his face!”
                “And if he gives us a nostalgia?” Another doubts.
                “What, you?” The first perplexes, “... and for what?
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 18 October 2017 11: 58
                  +8
                  Well, after doubt arose, now completely dispelled.
                  don't confuse us - we and they

                  Nah, I would also understand the Australians, they generally go upside down. And these seem to be similar to us. What do they have with brains then?
                  R.S. Anecdote credited. good Here's the exchange:
                  - Honey, go eat some porridge!
                  - You kind of cooked soup?
                  - You never know what I cooked.
                  1. Partyzan
                    Partyzan 18 October 2017 12: 12
                    +5
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    What do they have with brains then?

                    yes it is hereditary
      2. Shurik70
        Shurik70 18 October 2017 07: 43
        11
        How much did Hitler kill there during his reign? 54 million people?
        And Gorbachev now continues to kill. In Syria and Ukraine alone there are now how many dead.
      3. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 18 October 2017 07: 46
        +4
        I would deepen this paradox a little. For the West, the paradox is why in Russia they do not like (I'm talking about normal people) the West.
      4. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 18 October 2017 07: 47
        +5
        So it is, the better they speak of politics there, the more he has left us with us ... Putin will also be persecuted for a long time, like Joseph Vissarionovich ...
      5. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 18 October 2017 07: 55
        11
        Hurry - a skinny vulture circling over the country!
        The forest - your abode - in the spring to bring!
        Do you hear the earth shaking beneath your feet?
        You see - the dense fog lies over the fields? -
        This dew boils with hatred!

        Chorus:
        Hate - languishing in the swollen kidneys,
        Hate - it’s secretly seething in us,
        Hate - then oozes through the skin,
        Our heads are firing!

        Look - what red spots in the river -
        Evil decided to restore order in the country.
        The hilt of the swords grow cold in the hand
        And despair beats like a bird in a temple
        And the heart comes from hatred!

        Chorus:
        Hatred - young spoils faces,
        Hate - asks from the shores,
        Hate - thirsty and wants to get drunk
        Black blood of enemies!

        Yes, hatred captured us now
        But anger will not lead us from captivity.
        Not blind, not black hatred in us, -
        Fresh wind will dry our eyes
        Fair and genuine hatred!

        Chorus:
        Hate - drink, the cup is full!
        Hatred - requires an exit, waiting.
        But our noble hatred
        Lives next to love!
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 18 October 2017 11: 25
        +4
        A few days after the collapse of the country entrusted to him. Maybe we therefore hate him?
    2. Ren
      Ren 18 October 2017 08: 21
      10
      When he corrects the hunchbacked grave, I am sure that at the place of his burial heaps of far from fragrant substance will often appear, and watering will be considered the norm for any normal citizen of the Russian Federation. hi
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 18 October 2017 08: 55
        +4
        It will not be this. He bequeaths to burn his body and dispel the dust ... request
        PS Let only someone do this over Russia ... am
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 18 October 2017 09: 46
          +5
          Better immediately on some outhouse in Western Europe.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 18 October 2017 10: 51
          0
          if not dispelled, then the most profitable job for the guards of the grave will be
          --- "I didn’t notice, I looked and stood all the time, as it should. I don’t understand where it came from"
          no more than 3-4 guard post
    3. Primoos
      Primoos 18 October 2017 08: 36
      15
      The Great Stalin INDUSTRIALIZED a destroyed country! The insignificant Gorbachev HORBATIZED the country. Amazing trash. He also has the audacity to give advice on how we should equip Russia. When he dies, his rotten, vile carcass must be thrown over the hill. They love him, so let this cadaver be worshiped.
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 18 October 2017 10: 21
        +3
        Quote: Primoos
        The Great Stalin INDUSTRIALIZED a destroyed country! The insignificant Gorbachev HORBATIZED the country. Amazing trash. He also has the audacity to give advice on how we should equip Russia. When he dies, his rotten, vile carcass must be thrown over the hill. They love him, so let this cadaver be worshiped.


        history is such a thing in which there is no place for emotions, just numbers and facts. What this or that ruler leaves behind is this assessment of his stay in power, well, or love and dislike of descendants. No matter how you relate to Peter I or Catherine II, not to mention Stalin, but all of them left behind a mighty country with which everyone had to reckon with gritting teeth. And what did Gorbachev and Yeltsin leave behind? Even if they were good husbands, fathers, grandfathers. For my own ... at the expense of others ... And I don’t understand how it was possible to rank St. Nicholas II ?? What did he leave behind? How many have suffered martyrdom because of his weak character?
    4. stolz
      stolz 18 October 2017 08: 51
      +6
      But when will he die, will stop stinking and smoke the sky ?! It will stand in history on a par with all other traitors, such as Mazepa, General Vlasov and the like.
    5. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 18 October 2017 08: 57
      +3
      Quote: Black
      Why does our country not judge him? This is our power that this one collapsed ..... Again, we are afraid that they will say beyond the hill ?!

      Because his heirs and followers are still in power, why should they judge him ?! Putin officially congratulated him on his 85th birthday
      Congratulations posted on the Kremlin website.

      “You are known as a bright, extraordinary person, a prominent statesman and public figure. It is important that your professional knowledge, experience, great creative potential are still in demand today and serve the development of international humanitarian cooperation, ”the President of the Russian Federation noted.
    6. johnik
      johnik 18 October 2017 09: 05
      +2
      We have everything that they say beyond the hill, they are afraid! The jerk who nailed the eggs to the pavement was condemned here, and in France - as it should be - he was sent to fool! And in our media they bashfully keep quiet ...
    7. Finches
      Finches 18 October 2017 09: 21
      +4
      The only libel about Gorbachev that I will read with great pleasure will be an obituary ...!
    8. 24rus
      24rus 18 October 2017 10: 00
      +2
      If you condemn him, then the results of perestroika will not be legal with all the consequences ... So ..
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 18 October 2017 10: 23
        +2
        So they are illegal ...
    9. Maz
      Maz 18 October 2017 11: 42
      +2
      Scum. The collapse of the USSR, ruined the referendum that the majority did not want the collapse of the union, showed cowardice and an inability to manage in a difficult situation. In fact, he betrayed us all. And he lives in the West as a traitor, so why should we love him? For a bunch of wars after the collapse of the union? For the consequences in the Bialowieza Forest? For Yeltsin in power? For cemeteries and graveyards missing. Millions of fate broken.
    10. Juborg
      Juborg 18 October 2017 11: 45
      +2
      I will personally hammer an aspen stake into his knoll!
    11. Lelek
      Lelek 18 October 2017 11: 57
      0
      Quote: Black
      No paradox. In the West, they always loved traitors, but in Russia they hated


      Hi, Vyacheslav.
      In the West, traitors are also despised, but because of the two-facedness, they carry out gradation: Western traitors are an abomination, but traitors towards Russia and the former social camp are dissidents, sufferers for democratic principles, hero fighters for the Western world order. Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Gaidar, Kozyrev, Chubais, Kasyanov, Bykov, Illarionov, etc. are their "sons of bitches," whom they will extol to the peak of Putin and the current rulers of Russia.
      Today they are working hard on Lukashenko, trying to make Gorbachev out of him, and it looks like they succeed. yes
    12. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 18 October 2017 17: 47
      +4
      Quote: Black
      On the The West always loved traitors, but in россии hated ...

      and nitsche, that on the contrary it was necessary to write capital letters ??? fool fool
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 18 October 2017 07: 38
    18
    Yes, he’s pedestrian in life! !! Damned pss, let it be! ! I wish him death — I sincerely wish! !! For the collapse of the USSR, for all the non-negative that he brought to millions of people in our country! !! Rather, hell would be taken from us! !!
    1. nafanal
      nafanal 18 October 2017 09: 21
      +2
      Yes, they don’t take it. Looks like hell disdain them
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 19 October 2017 00: 29
      0
      Or can fate save his life for trial and execution at the stake, that is, for an act of higher justice?
  3. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 18 October 2017 07: 43
    16
    "there are many Russians who still admire him." Who is this? Where are they, show me them. "put an end to the cold war," yeah. But to hell with it or not - 60 years of history leaked into a jerk, miserable. Also, arrogance is enough to open my mouth.
    1. Olfred
      Olfred 18 October 2017 08: 17
      +7
      "put an end to the cold war"
      yeah, but the world has been burning for a decade, he then untied the hands of amers hi
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 18 October 2017 08: 59
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      "there are many Russians who still admire him." Who is this? Where are they, show me them.
      Putin, for example, officially congratulated him on his anniversary, I cited the text above repeat
    3. grandson of Perun
      grandson of Perun 18 October 2017 09: 55
      +5
      Quote: iliitch
      "there are many Russians who still admire him." Who is this? Where are they, show me them

      These are those who arrange "expositions" in the Yeltsin center and those who go there to admire them.
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Putin, for example, officially congratulated him on his anniversary, I cited the text above

      Do not confuse warm with soft, but the etiquette accepted among politicians with their personal attitude to Jews.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 18 October 2017 19: 56
        0
        Quote: Perun's grandson
        These are those who arrange "expositions" in the Yeltsin center and those who go there to admire them.


        Fools or enemies admire, at least according to the passport and the Russians. For 100 thousand. population on the verge of statistical error, I guess. And in the "temple of Jupiter" in Sverdlovsk there are no queues, they drive them there as far as I know.
  4. Mwg
    Mwg 18 October 2017 07: 47
    +1
    Respect is respected, but in the USA for permanent residence they are not eager to take. Looks like not everything worked out yet))))
  5. Million
    Million 18 October 2017 07: 49
    +4
    And Putin is respected in the West, and they hate Russia ....
  6. Orionvit
    Orionvit 18 October 2017 07: 50
    +4
    informal, naturally behaving, a person with a sense of humor.
    Sense of humor? This is a joke from Humpback to destroy the greatest power.
    He criticized Putin’s authoritarian rule
    A purely western approach. If somewhere strong power (and it should be like that), then totalitarianism. There are simply no words, so turn everything upside down. However, as always, when it comes to Russia.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 October 2017 07: 50
    +6
    In the West, he is respected, in Russia he is hated. Paradox!

    I also don’t see a paradox. Anyone who was ready to lick any place substituted by the West, and not for free, in Russia causes sincere contempt. There is really a small handful of people stuck together from the same test, who are ready to pray for it (even it is disgusting to call a surname).
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 18 October 2017 10: 25
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      There is really a small bunch of people

      Yes
  8. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 18 October 2017 07: 53
    +6
    I think for most people in the post-Soviet space, it will be difficult to express their attitude to this "spotty" censored words ..
  9. Малый
    Малый 18 October 2017 07: 58
    +2
    Is it still alive ???! Mat no normal words .........
  10. Moore
    Moore 18 October 2017 08: 03
    +1
    What paradox did journalist Jennifer Clibbon reveal in relation to Russians to M. S. Gorbachev? In fact, no.

    And that is true.
    What is the name of a person who consciously or not very allowed the collapse of the country, the destruction of the lifestyle of its population, which ultimately put everyone on the brink of disaster? That's right - a criminal.
    And what is the name of the person who, as the leader of the warring country, has provided unprecedented assistance in its collapse? That's right - "our son of a bitch."
  11. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 18 October 2017 08: 08
    +6
    If he had ruined the West, and not the USSR, then he would have been loved in Russia, hated in the West.
  12. Million
    Million 18 October 2017 08: 09
    +9
    It is strange that no case was brought against him for the collapse of the USSR. Apparently this suits the current government
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 19 October 2017 00: 22
      +2
      There is nothing strange. The legitimacy of the entire national-oligarchic bravo in the USSR is based on the results of actions of the tagged and Bialowieza state-owned companies. If they are condemned for treason and executed at the stake, the power of both the Russian oligarchy and the ukrohunt and Central Asian bais and even the Old Man will become de jure null and void. Therefore, both labeled and ebn will receive from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation only honor and respect.
  13. Малый
    Малый 18 October 2017 08: 10
    +6
    He is also cursed in the GDR ..... for which he surrendered the country without a fight to plunder ....
  14. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 18 October 2017 08: 13
    0
    You can’t let a person of this rank out of the country.
    After all, he was the first person, and the bearer of important secrets of defense. country. So either live at home or liquidate ..
    1. tank66
      tank66 18 October 2017 08: 18
      +1
      He, all that he knew, had long since passed to the "partners."
  15. EvilLion
    EvilLion 18 October 2017 08: 21
    +1
    In the West, Khrushchev and 3.14-sa bald love. And so what?
  16. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 October 2017 08: 24
    +7
    This ghoul does not live in Russia, but in Germany. This is me to say, “for whom” he “worked” —for his homeland-USSR or for Fritz Germany. For me, this person is worse than Vlasov, at least you can understand, the “labeled” one cannot be “understood” —to destroy his country, to lose power just for “applause” and “bling” on the neck .... it’s necessary to be like this idio .... m .....
  17. tank66
    tank66 18 October 2017 08: 30
    +1
    There is such a dirty trick in nature - Lomekhuza / this is not a mat /. It falls into a healthy anthill, starts to secrete a type of drug, ants begin to kick high, then down, and if Lomekhuz + downs do not die - kapets anthill. One hope, if, in nature "self-cleaning" of these insects did not happen - there would be no anthills on the planet.
  18. sauvage
    sauvage 18 October 2017 08: 32
    +6
    The hatred of the people is the reward for their "labors." Destroy such a country and then also be surprised at the dislike of people. He and Yeltsin are global traitors.
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 18 October 2017 08: 35
    +7
    Traitors do not like \ anywhere and never !!!
    Use while you can \ need and then ... the options are different.
    Labeled is not finished yet, because RUSSIA has not been finished yet !!!
    He does NOT NEED them, because ... you yourself understand why, but throwing it out ..... oh no way, a bad example for future renegades!
  20. pvv113
    pvv113 18 October 2017 08: 37
    16
    In the West, he is respected, in Russia he is hated. Paradox!

    No paradox - in Russia they never loved traitors
  21. Romanenko
    Romanenko 18 October 2017 08: 42
    +6
    Quote: "The reformer Gorbachev, who" helped put an end to the Cold War, "has no place in modern Russia."
    Write clearer:
    To the traitor and Judah Gorbachev, who sold his life for thirty pieces of silver, faith in tomorrow, hope for the future, work, honor and blood of several generations of Russians to ruin and reproach enemies, there is no place in Russia.
    Now, if they had written like that, then everything would have fallen into place and there would have been no misunderstanding.
  22. alfa19638
    alfa19638 18 October 2017 08: 46
    +6
    Unfortunately, the leadership of our country turned out to be people who support and approve of the collapse of the Great Country, and the raven will not peck out the crow.
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 October 2017 08: 55
    +1
    To judge him, but ".... for centuries we have no trial for fools." He still did not understand what he had done!
  24. pilot306
    pilot306 18 October 2017 08: 56
    +1
    Gando - cancer! And not a morphine, he, decree not only ruined my life, fucking countryman.
  25. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 18 October 2017 09: 08
    +2
    Also news ... Well, they do not like. And there is a place for him in Russia. A couple of meters. He will be gladly settled there.
    I would admit that I was a coward and a fool, I would apologize. Then, perhaps, they would forgive. For prescription of years.
    But it will not work. If he pleads guilty, then the legitimacy of the current government will be in question.
    Where then should the current patriots go?
  26. Pacifist
    Pacifist 18 October 2017 09: 12
    +1
    Russian traitors and fools have always been caressed in the west. So there is no paradox. For me, the prison is crying for him.
  27. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 18 October 2017 09: 14
    +1
    His name is Judas labeled
  28. nafanal
    nafanal 18 October 2017 09: 17
    +1
    Lord !!! When will you tidy up this Judas? I will come and pos. To his grave
  29. Disorder
    Disorder 18 October 2017 09: 23
    +2
    Are they respected?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 18 October 2017 10: 42
      +3
      But this is the right question !!!
      An article for future \ potential renegades = traitors .... like you betray. and we lick you ... caress.
  30. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 18 October 2017 09: 23
    +7
    In the west, "sword" respected .... Found something to be surprised! There who just do not respect! ..... And the blue ones are held in high esteem, and the fascists are quite legitimate ... and serial killers are sitting in the cells and complain about the lack of game updates ....
    And this is respected for trying to bury Russia.
    Accordingly, they do not like him here for the same.
    And there is no paradox in this.
  31. assa67
    assa67 18 October 2017 09: 26
    +3
    let's appoint the president labeled usa
  32. Galleon
    Galleon 18 October 2017 09: 55
    +2
    For reference: this Judah owns 10% of the shares of Novaya Gazeta.
  33. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 18 October 2017 10: 02
    0
    And yet not dead yet!
    Here is the tv_ar tenacious!
  34. alatanas
    alatanas 18 October 2017 10: 19
    0
    This balabol place - in prison, and you can Turkish! Nothing more to do. Enough g .... done.
  35. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 October 2017 10: 54
    0
    The journalist believes that this work gives "a convincing look at the last leader of the Soviet Union."

    ... it would be better - "last look" ... bully
  36. Stoler
    Stoler 18 October 2017 11: 00
    +2
    Strange, such a good Pinocchio request
    1. three-track
      three-track 18 October 2017 17: 09
      0
      The main thing is Kudrin. Now he is given the command to Wake up!
  37. Egorovich
    Egorovich 18 October 2017 11: 01
    +6
    This spotty personality did not change the country, but changed the COUNTRY.
  38. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 18 October 2017 11: 02
    +3
    And why love him a traitor. Ruined the country. I could not carry out the reforms. He must be judged.
  39. unignm
    unignm 18 October 2017 11: 45
    0
    when he dies I will untie and get drunk in zyuz
  40. Dmitry Skorobogatov
    Dmitry Skorobogatov 18 October 2017 11: 50
    0
    helped put an end to the cold war

    Did the Cold War once end?
  41. Des10
    Des10 18 October 2017 12: 05
    0
    "He is not loved (and this is the least) for the economic devastation that" perestroika "brought with him, for the shortage of goods throughout the country, for empty store shelves."
    No, they don’t like him --- only for betrayal.
    Schnick in the end.
  42. Catherine II
    Catherine II 18 October 2017 13: 05
    +5
    awarded in his RF
    President Dmitry Medvedev awarded the ex-President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev, who turned 80 on Wednesday, with the Order of Andrey Pervozvanny. I think this is an adequate assessment of the great work you did as head of state, ”the president added.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 October 2017 14: 17
      0
      He led the country out of an absolute dead end - socialism. And so
      gave a chance for development. While this chance is not used by the following
      rulers. But after a hundred years Gorbachev in Russia will be evaluated differently.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 18 October 2017 14: 27
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        He led the country out of an absolute dead end - socialism.

        the Chinese somehow live in this "dead end", and not bad, like
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 19 October 2017 05: 22
          0
          In China, there is no "socialism" from the word "absolutely" and it has never been and never will be.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 October 2017 09: 34
          0
          No. The Chinese wisely decided not to wait for the collapse, but to move
          to a market economy. Reform Deng Xiao Ping.
          And do not stop. Most of their GDP comes from the private sector.
          State is declining every year.
          And the Communist Party is gradually transforming into the ruling "socialist development party."
      2. Vasya Vassin
        Vasya Vassin 19 October 2017 09: 28
        +1
        What the hell did you see deadlock in socialism? Blind Teteria- wash your pigs eyes before getting clever!
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 19 October 2017 09: 59
          +7
          Quote: Vasya Vassin
          Blind Teteria- I’ll wash my pig’s eyes

          I hoped for a much smaller "medal" from the moderator shlopotal ...
  43. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 18 October 2017 14: 13
    +2
    Many want, according to them, to score an aspen stake or to spoil the creature’s grave. Well, why big words? If they do not burn him, they will bury him in a closed cemetery, visited only by relatives. And at our expense and with state honors. Because the authorities are full of M. S. apologists. If they were not there, we would have lived in a completely different way. It is enough to recall the brief period of Prime Minister Primakov and the growth of the economy at this time.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 18 October 2017 14: 29
      +1
      Quote: 16112014nk
      Many people want, according to them, to score an aspen stake or to spoil the creature’s grave. Well, why big words?

      many people on the grave of Yeltsin, excuse me, crap? These are all stupid words, they won’t go further than the sofa ... a vivid example, "Gorlovsky puzorez" - local scammers from the same opera hi
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 18 October 2017 15: 00
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        many people to the grave of Yeltsin,

        Right. It’s so easy not to go to the Novodevichy cemetery. You can recall Nikita Sergeyich and his grave there .. And for creatures like M. S. and built at our expense a war memorial in Mytishchi. Some are truly worthy of being buried there like M.T. Kalashnikov or former Minister of Defense Rodionov.
  44. Bamse
    Bamse 18 October 2017 14: 27
    0
    "I have a feeling that I need to do something!"
    M.S. Gorbachev
  45. Serge2068
    Serge2068 18 October 2017 14: 47
    +2
    That’s the question - who is Putin for Russia? He seems to be defending national interests. He returned Crimea. But at the same time he opened the Yeltsin Center! Congratulates Gorbachev, although by all people's laws he should have sent this villain to a nation-wide court. Why not to decide the fate of this traitor through a popular referendum? And who in the West dares to blather for something, if the majority decides to execute him or put him in prison - although this is not interesting, except to count! The elite plundering country continues to live. Recently, he introduced sanctions against the DPRK, which no one expected from him. It looks like betrayal and stupidity. So who is he - a patriot who wants to return the former power and relative justice of the USSR or just scum that goes with the flow? It doesn't seem like scum. But some actions and decisions are only bewildering.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 19 October 2017 00: 02
      +1
      Putin is a hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, so his actions are not some kind of hpp, but simply the implementation of the collegial decision of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, even if it is absolutely harmful to the people and the country.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 19 October 2017 00: 35
        +7
        Quote: zoolu350
        Putin is the hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation ...

        Baaaaaaaaaa ... request
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 19 October 2017 06: 12
          0
          Well, of course. Putin is good, Government is bad, for liberal. And who appointed this government? Bees against honey. Adherents of the HSP usually think primitively.
    2. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 19 October 2017 15: 04
      0
      Quote: Serge2068
      . Why can not decide the fate of this traitor through a popular referendum?

      According to the law adopted by the anti-people Duma, a referendum in Russia cannot be held.
  46. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 18 October 2017 14: 49
    0
    .... reforms that “would help his country relieve the burden of the Stalinist past” and finally move on to the future.
    I’m wondering - and after Stalin there was no one? Is the Caribbean crisis a trifle? For example....
    The West cannot forgive Stalin the victory over fascism in any way, but he blames out frank traitors or silently silent !!!!!
  47. three-track
    three-track 18 October 2017 17: 05
    0
    Vlasov and Hitler in the West also respected, so what?
  48. three-track
    three-track 18 October 2017 17: 07
    0
    Potroshenko-HUCPIST is also respected in the West.
  49. misti1973
    misti1973 18 October 2017 17: 18
    0
    And like before Gorbachev there was no deficiency. One person is not able to change anything at all on such a scale. I believe that the backlog was not bad. However, few provided support. But those who were on the contrary abound. So now, nothing has changed.
  50. seacap
    seacap 18 October 2017 18: 07
    0
    What paradox is this? All right, the Nobel laureate fulfilled the task set by the owner well and efficiently, with his own hands systematically and deliberately destroyed the state to which he swore, that is, he is an ordinary oath-criminal and an enemy of his people, and as they say in the oath, universal hatred befall him and the contempt of the people that he betrayed. This even now sleeps softly and eats sweetly, outlives everyone, and millions of citizens who entrusted him with the power are destroyed. Generations of souls are crippled, the country (or rather its remnants) is discarded in its development 100 years ago by 1914 mu year.