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Siluanov against financing the army and defense industry

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Siluanov against financing the army and defense industry



Despite the fact that, according to the current legislation, salary amounts for military posts and ranks should be indexed annually, taking into account inflation, the salary of the military has not been indexed for five years now - since 2013.
In order for the salaries of servicemen to remain no lower than the average salaries in leading sectors of the economy, the Ministry of Defense developed and sent to the Ministry of Finance two options for calculating the indexation of soldiers ’money allowances, but they were not reflected in the final draft budget.

It was not specified how much it was proposed to index the salaries of the military, but as a result, on Thursday, October 12, the Ministry of Finance announced that the salaries would be indexed to 4%.

“We really, maybe even somewhere too economically fit in this part. But now, despite all the difficulties, we understand that it is necessary to ensure the growth of the monetary allowance of servicemen and law enforcement officers, ”said Finance Minister Anton Siluanov last week.

The State Duma Defense Committee points to the insufficiency of the size of the indexation proposed by the Ministry of Finance, because the general price level in the country, while the salaries of servicemen were not indexed, rose by 46%, and the cost of the minimum set of food products rose by almost 60%.

Note that 6 of October, Anton Siluanov, even said that the growth of excess defense spending from the state budget causes irreparable risks for the entire Russian economy, since they do not carry a production character. Defense is only detrimental to the economy, says the head of the Ministry of Finance.

“We will produce a tank, and on it you will not continue to plow and bring additional product. He does not bring any additional GDP. The passion for military spending in 1987 — 1989, which was accompanied by a decrease in oil prices, led to the disintegration of the state, ”the minister told students at Financial University, giving a lecture on the role of the state budget in economic growth.

Свою оценку позиции Минфина в данном вопросе дал российский военный и общественный деятель, доктор historical наук, генерал-полковник Леонид Ивашов

Siluanov can not be Minister of Finance, because this position is state, large-scale. And he clearly, publicly showed himself as the most incompetent accountant. After all, referring to the fact that the Soviet Union collapsed due to high military spending is simply the greatest folly.

The Soviet Union collapsed precisely because it was led by the same type as Siluanov-Gorbachev, who could talk, but could not organize and use the enormous potential of the Soviet Union. Including the potential of the defense industry and the army.

The collapse began precisely with the fact that they began to discredit the army. Began to display mediocre troops from Eastern Europe. I remember very well how the troops were withdrawn, and absolutely no money was given for their arrangement. How betrayed the national interests of Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze. When the military offered to carry out a systematic withdrawal from Eastern Europe, from the Czech Republic and Hungary, during the 4-5 years, they decided in a narrow circle to withdraw all the troops within a year.

They did not resolve issues with ecology, they did not solve issues with real estate, which remained in the former socialist countries. As a result, they left - and they were still due, and the army was thrown into the field. More than 200 of thousands of homeless officers and ensigns were formed at once. Plus, there was a continuous discredit from the same liberals as Siluanov, that the army was ruining the country.

If we take today: what does the army give?

Military orders develop the defense industry. The highest, that neither is in Russia, technology. And these are national technologies, and not trinkets bought abroad.

The army today has provided its high authority with real actions, especially successful actions in Syria, and solved the following tasks.

I drew the attention of many potential partners who were afraid of Russia's weakness and did not make deals with us for civilian products, and especially for defense products. Today we see that in the queue of those who want to meet with Putin are the leaders of the states that a dozen years ago looked at Russia as an outcast.

For the first time in history, the king of Saudi Arabia, the largest oil power, arrived on a visit. Today, relations with Iran, with Turkey and the purchase of our weapons and not only agreements in the oil and gas sector allow us to pour huge amounts of money into Siluanov's budget. This allows you to build prospects.

Let's honestly admit that our group in Syria has allowed us to support the transportation of Russian gas to Europe through our actions. Otherwise, if we had not entered there, Qatar gas would have already passed through Syria and Turkey to Europe. If it were not for strengthening the army, fighting would intensify in Ukraine. We would no longer supply gas to Europe for the remaining pipes there. And, of course, Nord Stream would have been crushed long ago.

That is what the army did and prevented. It is another matter that the financial and economic bloc of the government cannot even use the highest defense technologies in the civilian sector - which it had to do.

Let Siluanov calculate multibillion-dollar losses and the theft, which is allowed in the field of trade in oil and gas and other natural resources. Let Siluanov answer: why has China abandoned three projects, also multi-billion, the same “Power of Siberia”? On what basis? And on the grounds that corruption is too high in the Russian Federation and that our financial and economic structures in the government do not know how to predict. They have no economic and geopolitical analysis.

Let Siluanov answer: why the data on deliveries to Europe of our gas and oil, when Germany shows how much Russia paid for deliveries of hydrocarbon raw materials, differ by tens of billions of euros from Russian figures, which show how much has been received in the Russian budget? This is what the finance minister needs to think about, and not to be a preacher of “Western values”, confirming to the enemy that Russia is overly increasing its power and the West should muffle it.

Gorbachev also worked with his team of traitors. The result is a weakening of the pivot that historically holds Russia. This is exactly the military core. He gives authority, fame, provides a high status in the world and always pulls the economy.

So, Mr. Siluanov is on the path of so-called “soft power” (today it is in fashion), demanding to cut funding for the armed forces. In the case of the realization of his dreams, we will be spat from all sides, as in the 90s, they spat, scoffed, scoffed. This will be followed by the demoralization of the army, and therefore of society. The collapse of the power block will follow - and there will be no further country. As it happened in 1991.

What else is very important? Siluanov, as well as his supporters (which is from the systemic liberal so-called opposition, which sat down in the government, whose residence is not for nothing called the White House, which is from among non-system accomplices), all pour a tear on the people. Siluanov argues that if we increase defense spending and raise salaries for the military, then we will suffer a social sphere: medicine, education, culture, pensions, and so on. That is what people really need.

Gentlemen, officials and oligarchs, in order to keep afloat, are trying to embroil the army with the people and tell lies to the grandmother, why she receives 6 thousands of pensions, why less than 10 thousands is enough for a basket of consumption. When people say that “we do not live, but survive,” liberal thieves say that the army is to blame.

This is not the first time in our history. So it was before 1917 year. So it was in 1980-e - "the army is ruining, so you have small pensions." But why Mr. Siluanov will not explain: why, as soon as they arrest a slightly significant official, a representative of state power, so suddenly he has millions and billions?

Let him explain: where did Ulyukaev have hundreds of millions and gold bars? And so any official today take, shake - and billions will fall. Here's where to look. Why doesn’t Siluanov explain the reason for the enormous outflow of almost 200 billions of dollars from Russian territory: who, how does it lead? Therefore, they can only grieve for the people for their own well-being, for covering up their criminal acts.

Let Mr. Siluanov explain in general: what are the prospects? What kind of Russian government is Medvedev building with the president? What kind of model will it be? Is there a program at all, a development strategy, other than accounting accounting curves? Siluanov, as we see, responds: "We must loot the army and then everything will be fine with us."

Let's talk about the controversy of the Duma members and the Ministry of Finance. The Duma Committee, chaired by Vladimir Shamanov, was finally outraged by the state of affairs that the military did not index salary levels for military posts and titles. Not only Vladimir Anatolyevich Shamanov and his committee should be engaged in this business, but the Investigative Committee should be engaged.

After all, it is, on the one hand, the robbery of military personnel, and on the other hand, it is non-compliance with the law. After all, this is laid down in the Law on the Status of a Military Person and in Other Legislative and Sub-Law Acts. So, for violation of the laws, even less significant, people are imprisoned. Why is Medvedev not sitting with his government when he does not obey the laws, and in the form of handouts he gives to the population of Russia that we will add something to you from November or from January?

Government members should be handcuffed like criminals violating the fundamental laws of the Russian state.

And the servicemen ... well, patient. We are all too patient. Hopefully, we believe in “objective difficulties. It is time to believe in reality — sheer theft, sheer corruption, which begins in the Kremlin and permeates all state structures and draws business, the business community, into it. But the patience of the military is not infinite.

The Emergency Committee - this, in fact, was already anguish of this patience. To endure further was impossible. Why did Marshal Yazov join the Emergency Committee? Because the army was defamed, killed officers, made stupid decisions. There is a Constitution, there is Soviet legislation, and in the republics they began to create their own armed groups, refused to send conscripts to serve in the army.

Bardak and defamation complete, plus non-payment of salaries. This led to the fact that the army ceased to support the then president - the traitor Gorbachev. At the same time, the traitors laid out the structures of the KGB and law enforcement agencies with "democracy." And everything - the country collapsed.

Today, Mr. Siluanov received such a task - to repeat the sad experience of the Soviet Union. Siluanov, I believe, is no less, but more, than Ulyukayev, a wealthy person. If he did not agree with the current state policy out of principle, he would have faded away at his own will and already lived somewhere in Texas or Hawaii.

Here we must understand that a powerful coordinated, well-coordinated geopolitical operation of “soft power” is being conducted against Russia. And the main support for holding the interests of our main geopolitical opponents lies precisely here, in Moscow. Russian agents of the West - the toolkit of this policy ...

Key players such as ministers and heads of large state corporations should be assigned to tasks. There are tasks that need to be solved. There is a goal to be achieved. And when Putin appoints the Ulyukaevs, the Siluanovs, the Medvedevs (they are full of them there in the government) - does this mean that he sees some task, some kind of goal?

On the one hand, the president says: “we need to strengthen the country, increase the well-being of citizens” - but appoints those who oppose it to key positions. To me, the personnel policy of President Putin is completely incomprehensible.

And another moment. The army today is ready to repel the first blow. And thank God. And thanks to Sergey Kuzhugetovich, his team. But the country is absolutely not ready even for a small but serious war. There is no mobilization resource, there is no mobilization capacity, there is not even a mobilization plan. Will the army again be forced to go into bayonet?

That's what Siluanov would have to think about if he served Russia. But he is doing everything so that not only the economy was not ready for war (and she is absolutely not ready), but that now the army is not even ready to repel the first strike. And this means that he is working in a completely different operation - an operation against Russia.

Conclusion. Putin needs, first, to discuss with the people: what kind of Russia are we building? And on strategic directions, especially on key ones, to put the highest professional patriots, and not random people. Now, how? I liked it, it says good toasts, maybe something else makes you enjoyable - they put it on the post. This is the path to nowhere, the path to the destruction of Russia. But those who are planning operations against Russia are pushing the destroyer people they need with any effective means. So, the personnel policy plays just on the side of those who impose sanctions against us and are preparing a military strike.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 18 October 2017 15: 23 New
    +3
    So maybe Mr. Siluanov. in general, the army to disband and join NATO as a raw materials appendage and lower partner? You probably do not realize the seriousness of the situation in Russia. presently.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 October 2017 15: 47 New
      12
      Kudrinsky marketer Siluanov is in all ways a theoretical servant of the West, and not what a statesman! (Let us recall at least his activity in introducing a new pension reform in the Russian Federation with an increase in the retirement age for everyone in the Russian Federation!) And if Siluanov denies this criticism and sincerely does not understand what he is doing, then he is simply "disabled on his head" !
      In any case, due to his professional unsuitability as an economist and statesman, it is high time for him to vacate a seat in the Medvedev government!
      1. bandabas
        bandabas 18 October 2017 16: 29 New
        +7
        That is precisely why he is working in the government of DAMA. Like all other ministers, “capitalists". And, considering that the fish rots from the head, what could be the question?
        1. vadsonen
          vadsonen 18 October 2017 19: 06 New
          13
          Why is everyone here talking about all kinds of DAMs, Siluanovs, Kudrins, but no one calls the one who appointed them to their posts? And who from year to year is very pleased with their work?
          1. bandabas
            bandabas 22 October 2017 15: 17 New
            +1
            That's why they say. Why call it if it's all one team. Unlike you. And your place in your chosen, exiled "country." Shut up please, and go home.
      2. vasilkovichi
        vasilkovichi 18 October 2017 17: 32 New
        +5
        He is not disabled. He is a traitor.
  2. Billgejtz
    Billgejtz 18 October 2017 15: 29 New
    10
    "the growth of excess defense spending from the state budget poses irreparable risks for the entire Russian economy, since they do not bear production nature"
    after such a vyser it is very interesting to know where this substance studied and on what basis does it occupy this post?
    although yes, I forgot, because there is a sawmill called Rosnano, because they, the poor, do not have enough money
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 18 October 2017 15: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: BillGatez
      after such a vyser it is very interesting to know where this substance studied and on what basis does it occupy this post?
      although yes, I forgot, because there is a sawmill called Rosnano, because they, the poor, do not have enough money

      No words, but for those that are banned .. request
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 October 2017 17: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: BillGatez
      after such a vyser it is very interesting to know where this substance studied and on what basis does it occupy this post?

      Dad - also worked in the Ministry of Finance, 96 years old, and his son spent his whole life in finances. And he was a nachfin in the army. Here he is, yes. request
    3. Trotil42
      Trotil42 22 October 2017 11: 10 New
      +1
      I strongly agree with you ... Just the increase in spending on defense and space drives the progress of civil technology in the world ... helps business ... plus the sale of military equipment abroad .. Siluanov if not a traitor ... then eggplant with brains made of cement ... let this eggplant look into the portfolio of orders for 65 billion US dollars in the field of armaments ... I don’t see any other development of the country than through the military commissariat ... with implementation in business ..
  3. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 October 2017 16: 08 New
    +2
    Drive him and as fast as possible! To the historical homeland!
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 18 October 2017 18: 40 New
      +6
      Not to drive but to the count and to make the count more authentic, after him in line is an iPhone with his comrades.
  4. SERGUS
    SERGUS 18 October 2017 16: 09 New
    +4
    Defense only causes damage to the economy, the head of the Ministry of Finance is sure.

    All this we already went through in the beginning of the 90s - the army is a parasite, several thousand paratroopers and we don’t need more ... So much time has passed since then and nothing has been added to the liberals’s head, the mistakes of the past haven’t taught them anything . It's a pity.
  5. badens1111
    badens1111 18 October 2017 16: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: SERGUS
    So much time has passed since then and nothing has increased in the head of the liberals, the mistakes of the past have never taught them

    Errors? No, not mistakes, say as there are crimes, the country has lost 25 years on a black experiment of liberalism.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 19 October 2017 07: 43 New
      +1
      Siluanov against financing the army and defense industry
      all in the pockets of the net ...
  6. vvp2412
    vvp2412 18 October 2017 16: 39 New
    0
    Medvedev as president did only one thing right - kicked nafig Kudrin! It is high time to send Siluanov for company to his predecessor!
  7. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx 18 October 2017 17: 09 New
    +5
    In kamenty everything is dumped on Siluanov, they say bad. But firstly, how did this bad uncle find himself in such a position? Secondly, well, well, even if they expel Siluanov, will the situation really change? The biggest losses are billions of oligarchs, and the current government will not fight them. Maximum, if only one feeder is taken away a feeder, and given to another. And who will be in the ministers does not matter.
  8. midshipman
    midshipman 18 October 2017 17: 15 New
    +5
    Leonid Grigoryevich, thank you for the article.
    The questions you raised have already been voiced many times. How to remove these "leaders in the Government", which GDP growth around the "0" level is considered a great achievement? We didn’t work like that. I have the honor.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 18 October 2017 18: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: midshipman
      How to remove these "leaders in the Government", which GDP growth around the "0" level is considered a great achievement?

      Alas, without the withdrawal of GDP from the presidency, this is impossible in principle. He did rule the government while DAM was president, and if he didn’t disperse anything, then this panopticon suits him
      1. bk316
        bk316 18 October 2017 18: 12 New
        +5
        Alas, without the departure of GDP from the presidency, this is impossible in principle

        Yeah, and after the departure of GDP, this half-educated liberalist will sit in the prime minister’s chair.
        Are you for IT?
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 18 October 2017 21: 18 New
          +3
          I stand for a normal president and a normal government.
          1. bk316
            bk316 19 October 2017 11: 06 New
            +2
            I stand for a normal president and a normal government.

            Yes, you are our man: I also advocate that everyone would be rich and healthy, that everyone would live according to their conscience, that love and justice reigned in the world ....
            Do not tell me what we (to start with me and you) to do this? am
  9. vasilkovichi
    vasilkovichi 18 October 2017 17: 27 New
    +2
    Oh, Joseph Vissarionych! Who did you leave us for?! Is it time for Vladimir Vladimirovich to get his military uniform out of the closet, put it on and put things in order in the country?
  10. San Sanych
    San Sanych 18 October 2017 18: 11 New
    +2
    Who does not want to feed his army, he will feed someone else's
  11. free
    free 18 October 2017 18: 23 New
    +1
    Bosko liberals must be cut
  12. Severok
    Severok 18 October 2017 19: 04 New
    0
    Now, if I am against the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank, how can I make sure that they don’t even smell from my desk ??????
  13. prior
    prior 18 October 2017 19: 10 New
    0
    These liberals but in camera to the pederasts .........
  14. LAWNER
    LAWNER 18 October 2017 19: 26 New
    +4
    The man is a real economist ...... His task is to look for and save money .... For him, raising the pension fund, abolishing the indexation of pensions and wages is normal. And it’s even better not to eat, or else too much)))
  15. atesterev
    atesterev 18 October 2017 20: 11 New
    0
    Too much in the article PREDATELISM. The layer of irresponsible officials, who, as well-known dancers, certain bodies forever interfere, is simply cherished.
  16. tank64rus
    tank64rus 18 October 2017 21: 03 New
    +3
    Government members should be handcuffed like criminals violating the fundamental laws of the Russian state.
  17. Servla
    Servla 18 October 2017 22: 07 New
    +2
    I hope that in the future mess, this body will be the first to be in a cesspool with a shot skull.
  18. Declarant
    Declarant 18 October 2017 22: 44 New
    +4
    I fully agree with all the theses of this article. And I warmly support the author.
  19. Nemesis
    Nemesis 19 October 2017 05: 46 New
    +3
    In the Russian Federation, it is necessary to stop indexing the salaries of officials, including in state-owned companies, and introduce the death penalty for embezzlement, with confiscation of property ... As for the army, it would be wise to switch to the French payment system, where sitting pants in the barracks receive a real average salary across the country, and for trips to exercises and into war zones receive substantial allowances.
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 20 October 2017 01: 38 New
      0
      Russia is not France. Try to “sit out your pants” somewhere in the Arctic, or in the Far East, or in a remote border garrison?
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 20 October 2017 05: 00 New
        +2
        In the Arctic and the Far East, they have to pay their own bonuses, and to wipe their pants in their offices for 100 thousand or more rubles a month ... We don’t need such military men and officials. They run ahead of the rest of the money, and there’s no one to fight and pass a normal law. One health care reform worth it, its authors miss the prison
  20. Nix1986
    Nix1986 19 October 2017 07: 16 New
    0
    Of course, I understand that I want 2000 armatures and 6 aircraft carriers and indexation of the security forces every year at the inflation level. But the budget is not rubber, and indeed here people are aware of what sn at doctors in the regions and what is the state of hospitals ?! I didn’t master the whole article, but if Siluanov speaks of a balanced approach to the budget, I don’t see anything bad. In general, fools from the news in the spirit helped Syria on the hoo and forgiven the debt of such a country for a few lards, and then, “Help Sonya 6 years for treatment,” get furious that “I can’t eat”. Despite the fact that, in the end, the same Belgium helps that little Sonya. In general, the state’s priorities are clear.
  21. groks
    groks 19 October 2017 08: 20 New
    +1
    Putin was the first to announce the end of the rearmament (how this could even be). In Tula.
  22. etrofimov
    etrofimov 19 October 2017 08: 53 New
    +2
    I consider the basic theses of the article to be completely true, but the author gave a huge inclination towards the issue of increasing precisely monetary allowance. I believe that the lion's share of the funds spent on defense should be spent on the purchase of weapons and military equipment, the creation and maintenance of strategic reserves and a mobilization reserve of equipment. It is also extremely important to have a human mobilization reserve, both "quick mobilized" - of reservists and reserve personnel in large quantities. In the event of a large conventional war, the peacetime army will “burn out” in a few months, and the entire bulk of the hostilities to the victorious end will be borne by those already mobilized during the war. It is extremely important to have someone to mobilize (quality l / s) and how to arm them .... Having spent the bulk of the money on the monetary allowance of the peacetime army, we will simply spend this money ...
    Of course, the monetary allowance of military personnel should not be lower than the average earnings in the country, but the situation when an ordinary contractor receives more skilled industrial workers at the same factories of the military-industrial complex is in my opinion abnormal.
    Let me give you an example: I’m a production worker, the shop manager earning 43 thousand a month, at the same time my peer and friend, serving in the rank and position of Captain of the Second Rank at LenVMB, on the shore, in a day or two or three (operational duty) earns over 80 thousand a month.
    Is it really enough? I do not agree! The current level of monetary allowance of servicemen in the current state of the economy is more than enough!
  23. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 19 October 2017 15: 38 New
    +5
    I am opposed to such a bald disgusting creature with rat eyes headed the Ministry of Finance of Russia. I am sure that at least 90% of the Russian population agrees with me! To kick this bastard out of work is the smallest thing that can be done for the good of the state. But in fact, such corrupt geeks of collaborators must be driven into a sawmill or drowned in a reservoir.
  24. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 19 October 2017 17: 39 New
    +3
    Who does not want to feed his army, will feed someone else's.
  25. Plead
    Plead 20 October 2017 18: 08 New
    0
    Ventricular degenerates in ministerial offices stuff their pockets, not thinking about the future and the country!
    The brain is corroded by gastric juice!
  26. Old military officer
    Old military officer 21 October 2017 19: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Nix1986
    Of course, I understand that I want 2000 armatures and 6 aircraft carriers and indexation of the security forces every year at the inflation level. But the budget is not rubber, and indeed here people are aware of what sn at doctors in the regions and what is the state of hospitals ?! I didn’t master the whole article, but if Siluanov speaks of a balanced approach to the budget, I don’t see anything bad. In general, fools from the news in the spirit helped Syria on the hoo and forgiven the debt of such a country for a few lards, and then, “Help Sonya 6 years for treatment,” get furious that “I can’t eat”. Despite the fact that, in the end, the same Belgium helps that little Sonya. In general, the state’s priorities are clear.

    You see, a colleague discussing this article, I am not an economist or an accountant, but even in my opinion the balance here is somehow interesting. The salary of a capital official and a provincial teacher or doctor is not comparable in principle. As for the military part of the budget, strict control over its distribution and spending should be established. Violations in this area should qualify as treason to the motherland in wartime. The refusal of a moratorium on the death penalty is mandatory. Confiscation of all property, including close relatives, is required. Government must be a united team.
    1. Forever so
      Forever so 21 October 2017 19: 30 New
      0
      Well, our government is the One Team that saves America’s financial system.
  27. Forever so
    Forever so 21 October 2017 19: 28 New
    +1
    oh laughed at)) Putin will discuss with the people))) Cancer on the mountain will whistle, Medvedev will take care of Russia, liberal buggers will drink iadu, and Chubais will be killed on the wall. Putin and his people have long discussed everything.
  28. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
    Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 22 October 2017 01: 19 New
    0
    70 percent of officials and politicians are not sitting there. They sit in their chairs, but should sit in remote places.
  29. Technician72
    Technician72 22 October 2017 20: 42 New
    0
    Stop, what is he wrong about? GDP thank god not foreshortening