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Presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia met

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The meeting of the Presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia took place in Geneva. The meeting was devoted to the need to resolve the protracted Karabakh conflict. The fact that Ilham Aliyev and Serzh Sarksyan met with each other and began a dialogue is already encouraging.


The meeting of the presidents of the two conflicting states was held on the initiative of the co-chairs of the so-called Minsk Group. Negotiations were held at the residence of the Permanent Representative of Switzerland at the Geneva headquarters of the United Nations. The meeting was attended by representatives of Russia, the United States and France.

From the press service of the President of Armenia:
The meeting is held with the participation of Foreign Ministers Edward Nalbandyan and Elmar Mamedyarov, as well as the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairs Igor Popov (Russia), Andrew Schaefer (USA), Stephan Visconti (France) and Personal Representative of the OSCE Chairman-in-Office Andrzej Kasprzyk.


Presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia met


Following the talks, it was noted that the conversation was held in a constructive way. Representatives of the Minsk Group made it clear that they were satisfied with the ongoing direct negotiations between the leaders of the republics.

The previous meeting of this level was held last summer in St. Petersburg. The result of that meeting was an actual cease-fire on the contact line in Nagorno-Karabakh. At the meeting in Geneva, the parties agreed to deepen the process to achieve a comprehensive peace in the region.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 October 2017 07: 14 New
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    The sense of the meeting so far is only the fact that it took place! hi
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 17 October 2017 08: 21 New
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      The sense of this meeting, just from it there is no sense, everything is useless. laughing
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 17 October 2017 08: 55 New
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        Quote: 79807420129
        ...all devil sense. laughing


        Freud Reservation! laughing
        1. starogil
          starogil 17 October 2017 09: 37 New
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          Or maybe a typo?
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 17 October 2017 10: 47 New
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            Quote: starogil
            Or maybe a typo?

            Blame, Blind, I promise to mend. Please understand and forgive.
            Quote: Nasr
            Freud Reservation!

            hi hi
        2. hrych
          hrych 17 October 2017 09: 38 New
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          Oh no, this is a landmark meeting. After the battles provoked by Erdogan, as the front of the Russian Federation and failed miserably, the meeting says a lot.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 17 October 2017 10: 45 New
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        Another tour trip. No one believes in the effectiveness of these “negotiations”. So, for show. The problem will be resolved on the battlefield. And not otherwise. Who claims the opposite, from the evil one. No one wants war. This is scary! But there are situations when there is no other way out
        1. vearey
          vearey 17 October 2017 10: 55 New
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          tour trip
          Well, why, the very fact of the meeting is significant, and suggests that both leaders are capable of looking into the eyes of the enemy without great emotions. And that means making not emotional decisions. And if it will be necessary to fight, then they will not blink an eye.
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  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 October 2017 07: 18 New
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    It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR! hi Naturally, Karabakh should also be included in the composition of this new republic, but they’ll completely lose their weapons — let’s better punched each other with fists, than each other will crash!
    1. captain
      captain 17 October 2017 07: 37 New
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      You urgently need to become the president of Armenia, they will evaluate you there.
    2. Blombir
      Blombir 17 October 2017 07: 44 New
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      Quote: Herkulesich
      It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR! hi Naturally, Karabakh should also be included in the composition of this new republic, but they’ll completely lose their weapons — let’s better punched each other with fists, than each other will crash!

      Armenian radio?
    3. FLOOD
      FLOOD 17 October 2017 07: 47 New
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      Did you happen to fall high when you were a kid? wassat
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 17 October 2017 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Herkulesich
      It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR!
      Yes, it would be a way out. But by themselves, these Republics will not be able to unite, and the Kremlin will not accept them into Russia. Then you need to give them to Iran. He will unite them and make friends whether they want it or not.
    5. Observer2014
      Observer2014 17 October 2017 08: 35 New
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      Herculesic
      It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR! hi Naturally, Karabakh should also be included in the composition of this new republic, but they’ll completely take away their weapons — let’s better punched each other with fists, than each other will crash!
      wassat laughing good Only one question. What do you all want to unite and feed someone? Not fed at the Soviet Union? What a bliss it is to unite someone. Those who are no longer Russian. Think better and worry about the unification of the Russians. And do not fantasize about the “friendship of peoples” fantasize. Who is capable of 25 years of independence showed. And where to work and who goes. He also says a lot .. They wanted independence. Get everything and sign it.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 17 October 2017 08: 39 New
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        Quote: Observer2014
        Only one question. What do you all want to unite and feed someone?

        You are our observant ... but why did RI unite, having Transcaucasian provinces in its composition? Maybe the matter is something other than your idle reasoning on the account of "fed"? Do not understand?
        Quote: Observer2014
        Who is capable of what 25 years of independence have shown. And where to earn money and who goes

        You again did not understand anything, even having written your whole tirade?
        Why do we have so many grievous commentators discussing the topic in which there are absolute ignoramuses?
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 17 October 2017 10: 38 New
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        Quote: Observer2014
        Only one question. What do you all want to unite and feed someone? Not fed at the Soviet Union? What a bliss is it to unite someone

        Unfortunately, you can’t survive without unification in our imperfect world. Only a strong, only a strong group of countries can resist the united West! The West does not accept us in its ranks. And on the conditions that we do not need Ukraine. We lost the Soviet bloc and our allies, so we have to look for various alliances. Both trade and military. Therefore. It is necessary to combine, it is not necessary to feed.
    6. Seal
      Seal 17 October 2017 12: 55 New
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      Spain - and that scatter. And you are going to unite someone. And, excuse me, and who do you think should lead this state formation? Or take turns? Or both together? So if both are together, then they will immediately fight. And if in turn - then one will cancel the decrees of the other.
      No, if in 70 years it has not been possible to create a new single community: the “Soviet people”, then there is no need to revive this idea, which has rested in a Bose, in vain.
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 17 October 2017 07: 49 New
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    Quote: Herkulesich
    It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR! hi Naturally, Karabakh should also be included in the composition of this new republic, but they’ll completely lose their weapons — let’s better punched each other with fists, than each other will crash!

    In my opinion, did such education exist in the past, during the formation of Soviet power? It didn’t help .. After each such meeting, there is an aggravation on the line of contact. It is necessary to introduce peacekeepers from neutral countries there. Only time will heal old grievances and heal wounds and ambitions .
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 17 October 2017 08: 40 New
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      Quote: Mar. Tira
      After each such meeting, there is an aggravation on the line of contact. It is necessary to introduce peacekeepers from neutral countries there.

      Each input of such peacekeepers ends with a war of all against all, does the example of the former Yugoslavia tell you anything? And the presence of blue helmets in Africa?
  5. bald
    bald 17 October 2017 07: 50 New
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    Officially, they will take a look and again for their own. Not that they say. This is not without their help, peoples hate each other. But it is not treated immediately.
  6. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 17 October 2017 08: 32 New
    +2
    The fact that Ilham Aliyev and Serzh Sargsyan met with each other and started a dialogue is already encouraging.

    Not ashamed to reprint this nonsense? Sowing the phrase has been frayed for many years, but there is no sense. Various organizations are pushing them to meetings in order to portray at least some kind of activity. Presidents do not care, since respected people ask, you can meet. But each other’s positions have long been known ...
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  7. garnik
    garnik 17 October 2017 08: 50 New
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    Now the process of accumulation of weapons. Whether there will be war or not, it depends on how the Turks go about their business in Syria. If Idlib remains behind them, then war cannot be avoided. If the Syrians punish the Turks, then the war in Arzakh will move to a later time. Only recognition by Russia and the United States of the independence of Arzakh will bring peace to this land.
    1. Seal
      Seal 17 October 2017 12: 57 New
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      Both the United States and Russia 4 times confirmed the principle of territorial integrity of your neighbors.
      recognition by Russia, USA

      Why don’t you want to start with yourself? Maybe first let Armenia itself recognize the independence of NGOs?
  8. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 17 October 2017 09: 11 New
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    Quote: badens1111
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    After each such meeting, there is an aggravation on the line of contact. It is necessary to introduce peacekeepers from neutral countries there.

    Each input of such peacekeepers ends with a war of all against all, does the example of the former Yugoslavia tell you anything? And the presence of blue helmets in Africa?

    He says, but can you tell me where the troops were from? That's right, from the NATO countries! So, with what fright will they protect the Serbs, besides the Russians, if the US has set the task to destroy Yugoslavia? We need countries that are not interested in the conflict.
  9. tank66
    tank66 17 October 2017 10: 11 New
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    While the lords are in Geneva - at the lackeys forelocks do not crack.
  10. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 17 October 2017 10: 18 New
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    Quote: Herkulesich
    It is necessary to unite these republics into one, under the Soviet flag, to name just the Transcaucasian USSR! hi Naturally, Karabakh should also be included in the composition of this new republic, but they’ll completely lose their weapons — let’s better punched each other with fists, than each other will crash!

    It is an illusion that it will be good. Forgot about Sumgait and Baku - both at the beginning of the century and at the end? There was a firearm to a minimum. Crazy mob mob prefers axes rather than firearms.
  11. vearey
    vearey 17 October 2017 11: 05 New
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    There is, of course, a way out of the impasse, Azerbaijan must cede half of the disputed area to Armenia, Armenia will in return pay Azerbaijan the value of the concession, which will go to Iran, which will give Azerbaijan seats with the Azerbaijanis who are being infringed today, who will be able to realize themselves in their national country. And if Putin does this, the Nobel peace is guaranteed to him.
    1. Seal
      Seal 17 October 2017 16: 49 New
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      1) What can Armenia pay if it exists at the expense of our and American loans?
      2) Have you ever met at least one Armenian who would be willing to pay for what he now owns and considers “his historical”?
      3) Why should Iran transfer something to Azerbaijan? Even for the money?
      4) Why should Azerbaijan concede, albeit for money (which it does not particularly need) to its territory, about which the UN Security Council 4 (four) times unanimously voted that the territory is Azerbaijani?

      The most realistic way out of the impasse is to impose sanctions on Armenia for maliciously failing to comply with UN Security Council resolutions. But alas, the United States will never vote for this option. Since the Armenian lobby in the US Congress is the second most influential after the Israeli. Yes, and in our power structures too ....
      1. Karen
        Karen 17 October 2017 17: 41 New
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        Well, what national lobbies can there be something of when making decisions, if the Anglo-Jewish tandem is operating? Anglo-Saxons and then stalled.
        And in Russia, only the Jewish tandem. And this is the case when they do not need a partner in tango.
      2. vearey
        vearey 18 October 2017 09: 37 New
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        1) What can Armenia pay if it exists at the expense of our and American loans?
        Let him repay the loans.
        Have you ever met at least one Armenian who would be willing to pay
        How else can they prove their desire for peace?
        Why should Iran transfer something to Azerbaijan? Even for the money?
        The legitimate aspirations of the people of Azerbaijan for self-determination and reunification in a national country. Why is Catalonia yes, but not to Northern Azerbaijan (Persia)? The Persians must realize that this will go away anyway, and so they can help their best friends Armenians.
        Why should Azerbaijan give in, even for money (which it does not particularly need) to its territory
        Because it will extinguish the conflict and join the southern part of its people who languish in Persia, together with a territory larger than that which they will give.
        1. Sparkling
          Sparkling wine - Dry 18 October 2017 09: 54 New
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          Do you at least understand something about the question you are writing about? The question is rhetorical.
  12. padded jacket
    padded jacket 17 October 2017 11: 23 New
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    Recently, Turkish President Erdogan came on a friendship visit to Iran where he met with Rouhani, after which a friendship visit of Azerbaijani warships to Iran followed, and now direct negotiations between Azerbaijan and Armenia are not far off and peace between them and the NKR will become an independent state.
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      1. Karen
        Karen 17 October 2017 15: 50 New
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        After 7 years, when there will be a very hot war, you will be a personal doll.
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          1. Karen
            Karen 18 October 2017 21: 13 New
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            Go kiss Primakov’s grave - it was he, through the drunk Boris, who stopped our tanks, not allowing us to go on the banks of the Kura.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 17 October 2017 16: 07 New
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        Quote: Golibjon
        This signal means Karabakh will return to Azerbaijan

        Forget the NKR will never be Azerbaijani.
      3. garnik
        garnik 17 October 2017 16: 31 New
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        And you are not in the courses of relations of the so-called Azerbaijan and Iran?
        Russia made a choice of the 18th century. Peter 1.
        I am sure that Armenia will overcome the so-called Azerbaijan, because some protect the land of their ancestors, while others want to return the gift of the Bolsheviks.
        Are you Tajik? It’s just interesting, the views of different peoples on the Artsakh conflict.
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  14. Seal
    Seal 5 November 2017 19: 04 New
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    Quote: vearey
    Let him repay the loans.

    I'm telling you, What can Armenia pay if it exists at the expense of our and American loans?
    She cannot repay loans. Just because they have so many loans that they will not repay in 300 years. Even if a miracle happens and they decide to pay.

    Quote: vearey
    How else can they prove their desire for peace?

    In the sense ? They are not going to prove anything to anyone. They believe that they have all proved for a long time - Karabakh is theirs. And this is not discussed with them.
    Quote: vearey
    The legitimate aspirations of the people of Azerbaijan for self-determination and reunification in a national country. Why is Catalonia yes, but not to Northern Azerbaijan (Persia)? The Persians must realize that this will go away anyway, and so they can help their best friends Armenians.

    And who told you that Iranian Azerbaijanis have a desire for reunification? Now Azerbaijan has its own elite, and Iranian Azerbaijan has its own elite. Any reunion leads one elite to disappear. Well, or greatly losing its position. Why do Iranian Azerbaijanis need this? The fact that North Azerbaijan is seeking to leave Iran is just your guess. Nothing real reinforced.
    Even 20 years ago, the Armenians did not consider the Turks, but the Persians as their worst enemies.

    Quote: vearey
    Because it will extinguish the conflict and join the southern part of its people who languish in Persia, together with a territory larger than that which they will give.

    About the fact that someone allegedly "languishes" - has already been said.
    Now about how to resolve the conflict. Let me remind you that there are as many as 4 UN Security Council resolutions supporting the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Yes. They are poorly executed. But why should Azerbaijan, voluntarily, refuse them? Why should he run ahead of the engine?
    It may be more logical if the UN Security Council first will change its position and refuse to support the principle of territorial integrity of Azerbaijan?
    1. Karen
      Karen 5 November 2017 20: 40 New
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      Sergey Petrovich, reading
      Quote: Seal

      Even 20 years ago, the Armenians did not consider the Turks, but the Persians as their worst enemies.

      for some reason I come to the conclusion that the author of these lines has just returned from Baku ...
      ... During the war years, the "road of life" acted from Iran.
  15. Seal
    Seal 5 November 2017 19: 11 New
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    Quote: quilted jacket
    Forget the NKR will never be Azerbaijani.

    So far, the position of my country of the Russian Federation and my President V.V. Putin is to adhere to the principle of territorial integrity of Azerbaijan - Azerbaijanis always hope that NGOs will de facto return to Azerbaijani jurisdiction.
    1. Karen
      Karen 5 November 2017 20: 55 New
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      And he said about 10 years ago '"... Yes, but history must be taken into account."