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"Tanks drive through people like wood." The third assault on Stalingrad. H. 2

The third assault on Stalingrad lasted until the end of October 1942, although without the same intensity. German troops were drained of blood, and by the beginning of November they were morally broken and could not occupy a narrow strip of urban ruins, although in the area between the Barikada and Krasny Oktyabr plants there was no more than 400 meters to go to the Volga. slept a little. The Germans acted only in small groups and consolidated captured positions, passed to the defense.

Completion of the third assault

The battles for Stalingrad impressed with their bitterness and perseverance. It was a real battle of the titans. Russians and Germans have shown themselves to be the best fighters on the planet. The exploits of the fighters of the Pavlov’s House, which held him for 58 days (until November 25, 1942), became world famous. The defense of the famous Stalingrad house was led by Lieutenant Ivan Afanasyev and Sergeant Yakov Pavlov. Under their command there were from 24 to 31 soldiers. In the basements were also more than thirty civilians, some were injured. The enemy was striking this house aviation, fired artillery and mortar fire, but the defenders of the house did not retreat a single step. The Germans organized attacks several times a day. Every time the soldiers and Tanks they tried to get close to the enemy close to the house, Afanasyev and his comrades met them with heavy fire from the basement, windows and roof. It came to the point that in the operational map of the German commander of the Stalingrad group Paulus, "Pavlov’s house" was designated as a fortress. Marshal V. Chuykov said in his memoirs: "This small group, defending one house, destroyed more enemy soldiers than the Nazis lost when they captured Paris."

The words of the sniper VG became the motto for all Soviet soldiers. Zaitseva: “For us, the soldiers and commanders of the 62 Army, there is no land outside the Volga. We stood and we will stand to the death! ”. Almost three hundred killed Nazis were in the account of the famous Soviet sniper.

"Tanks drive through people like wood." The third assault on Stalingrad. H. 2

Pavlov's House

Ya. F. Pavlov and A. M. Cherkasov - Brigadier of the 1 Volunteer Brigade for the Restoration of Stalingrad talk against the background of the building that was damaged by the fighting. Picture taken after June 1945 of the year - on the chest of Pavlov the Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union, this title was awarded to him 17 June 1945 of the year

In the area of ​​the Barrikady plant, Siberian warriors of the 308 th rifle division fought under the command of Colonel L. N. Gurtieva. They fought off some 100 German attacks in October. There were days when Soviet soldiers fought off, one by one, five, ten and more attacks. And not only reflected, but also passed into counterattacks. Three German divisions supported by aviation and artillery were attacking this division. Colonel Gurtyev, a participant in the First World War and the Civil War, a battle-hardened military leader, with his skill and composure inherent in him, led the actions of his units, who in the days of the October and November battles fought in the direction of the main attack of the German army. The soldiers of the 138 Infantry Division under the command of a talented military commander Colonel I. I. Lyudnikov also fought. In mid-October, when the 138 Infantry Division arrived to help the defensive village and the Barrikady plant of the 308 Infantry Division, the enemy strengthened its grouping here, concentrating four infantry divisions and one tank division in a narrow area. The positions of the Soviet soldiers attacked large masses of tanks. Soon the battles were transferred directly to the factory territory, the 308-I and 138-I divisions continued to fight with the superior forces of the enemy. Together with the Soviet soldiers, shoulder to shoulder with them, the factory workers fought.

Komdiv Leonty Nikolaevich Gurt'ev (1891-1943)

Meanwhile, the Soviet command increased its forces in the Stalingrad sector. In order to eliminate the possibility of enemy forcing the river, at the direction of the Headquarters in October, three fortified areas were thrown from the other fronts into the defense system of the 2 tank corps: 77, 118 and 156 from other fronts. To the south of the city, the 61 and 87 cavalry divisions of the 4 th cavalry corps are concentrated, and in the Dubovka, Vyazovka area, the 7 rifle corps (93, 96 and 97 rifle brigades) were concentrated. The 169 and 45 rifle divisions also arrived at the Stalingrad Front. From the Reserve Betting in the Don Front, seven rifle divisions arrived. In order to create a solid defense of the Volga islands in the area of ​​Stalingrad - Spore, Zaitsevsky, Golodny and Sarpinsky - the Headquarters sent artillery and machine gun battalions to the Stalingrad Front in early October. For the same purpose, the 45-Infantry Division under the command of Colonel V.P. Sokolov, one regiment of air defense and 20 of large-caliber machine guns was transferred to the front.

Unable to develop a breakthrough along the bank of the Volga towards the Barricades factory, the Germans attempted to advance north from the FTZ to Spartanovka. But here the enemy was stopped by a group of colonel Gorokhov, fighting in the area, in 8 sq. km in the area between the Volga River. Mosque and P. Latosanka. “On November 2, the battle resumed with a new force,” noted Major General S. F. Goruv. “The Nazis tried to suppress us with the power of fire. At 7 hours of the morning, after a raging artillery and mortar raid, bombing began, which lasted 10 hours in a row. On this day, Colonel V. A. Bolvinov (commander of a rifle brigade from a surrounded group) died, his dugout was broken by a direct bomb hit. ... In the 17 watch the Nazis launched an attack with tanks. Our fire weapons greeted them as before, as if there was no painful shelling and frantic bombardment of our positions. The attack was repelled. A large role in this battle was played by our artillery, which was on the islands. Two days later, the enemy repeated the bombing. This time, he bombed not only us, but also the left bank of the Volga and the islands where our artillery firing positions were located. And when the Nazis went on the attack again, they were met with merciless fire. All enemy attempts to dislodge us from the occupied lines were unsuccessful. ”

A stubborn battle continued in the area of ​​the Red October plant. Here the defense was held 39-I Guards Rifle Division Guriev. In the second half of October, after heavy six-day battles, the Germans made their way into the factory and 27-s captured its north-western part. The fighters fought day and night for every house, trench, but the enemy never broke through to the Volga. Although the troops 62-th army had even closer to the river. On October 29, the front command sent the personnel of the 45 Infantry Division, commanded by Colonel V.P. Sokolov, with a company of 235 tank brigades, to arrive from the Guryev’s division. This made it possible to organize a X-strike against 31 in October, supported by front aviation and a front artillery group. The warriors of Guryev and Sokolov decisively counterattacked the enemy from the largest workshops and from the warehouse of finished products of the Krasny Oktyabr factory. In the future, right up to the transition of our troops to the counteroffensive, the struggle on the territory of the plant continued with great tenacity, but the enemy was not able to seize the whole area of ​​the plant and reach the Volga.

In the meantime, the bloodless and tired German troops, having failed to break the defenses of Chuikov’s army and complete the operation to seize the city, began to go over to the defenses, trying to keep the occupied territory. From the beginning of November, in the defense zone of the 62 and 64 armies, the troops of the German 6 were operating only in small groups. The German army was replenished with manpower and equipment, fixed the captured positions. At the military disposal of the 62 Army Headquarters 10 November, it was noted that the enemy in front of the army began to build fortifications (bunkers) and anti-personnel and anti-tank barriers, securing the occupied territory and thus complicating the offensive actions of the Soviet troops. In this regard, it was proposed to conduct around-the-clock continuous observation of the enemy and to open machine-guns and artillery at all observed work sites, disrupting the construction of obstacles and obstacles.

German mortar crew firing at Soviet troops from 81-mm mortar (8-cm GW34) among the ruins of the Red October plant in Stalingrad.

German soldiers take positions in battle in the zone of the Red October plant in Stalingrad

Counterstrike Soviet troops

To facilitate the position of the 62 Army, 19 of October 1942, from the area north of the city, the Don Front launched an offensive. At first, the Kommersant Rokossovsky comfronts posed much more decisive tasks: to break through the enemy defenses, unite with the troops of the Stalingrad Front, and destroy the enemy grouping that had broken through to the Volga. The main blow inflicted 66-I army of General Zhadov. To ensure the combat mission of the army, in addition to its 5 rifle divisions, 4 divisions from the 24 Army and 4 were given full rifle divisions from the Betting reserve, as well as the 23 artillery regiment of the GDG, 12 rocket artillery regiments, several tank brigades. As a result, Zhadova had 74 guns for every kilometer of the front line, not counting mortars and rocket launchers. The front aviation worked in the army sector, carrying out the tasks of storming the enemy and covering its units from the air.

During the period from 20 to 26 in October, the 66-I army, continuously attacking, advanced only 3 km and the offensive operation failed. Losses at the same time amounted to about 18 thousand people. Speaking about the reasons for the failure, Rokossovsky and Zhadov stated that the infantry, especially the newly arrived divisions, was poorly trained and offered to stop the offensive: “... People are not trained and completely unprepared, many do not know how to own a rifle. Before you fight, you need to train and prepare a new division for at least a month. The command staff, both middle and senior tactically illiterate, cannot navigate the terrain and loses command and control in combat ... In the presence of large artillery fire and massed raids of our aircraft, units advance very slowly ... The enemy aviation showed no activity. The enemy forces in front of the front of the 66 Army are insignificant, the enemy has assembled soldiers from the rear areas ... ”. Thus, the Germans, even with small forces, repelled the poorly organized attack of the Red Army.

The operation was unsatisfactory. A special department of the Don Front in the report to his superiors was noted primarily by the mediocre and inept leadership of the regimental commanders, divisions and the commander himself General Zhadov. The artillery also acted poorly; it was not possible to use the accumulated power: it opened fire either long before the infantry units reached the initial line for an attack, or they beat at their own, since the artillery commanders did not organize observation and the corresponding adjustment according to the results of the shooting. Separate parts in general did not receive ammunition and did not fire. Aviation periodically acted in the same spirit, striking at the leading edge of its troops. Moreover, the soldiers of the 66 army were poorly supplied and cases of lack of food were observed: “Due to poor nutrition and exhaustion of the soldiers, 587 and 692 deaths were recorded in 212 and 23 SP. In 62 DM, 9 deaths are noted. Medical commissions found that death was caused by exhaustion and overwork of the body. Despite the presence of signals, neither the command of the army, nor the command of the front took appropriate measures through the institutions of the rear to organize a normal supply. ”

South of Stalingrad, our troops also tried to attack. From 22 October, 1942, the 64 Army's strike group was advancing: 422 and 126, Infantry Divisions, 93, 96 and 97 Infantry Brigades of the 7 Corps, 13, 50, 90-I and 155-I tank brigades. Our troops attacked in the Kuporosnoe, Zelenaya Polyana area at the junction with the 62 army. Soviet troops advanced several kilometers and were thrown back to their original positions. On October 25, the army of Shumilov again launched an offensive in the same direction, which began after the 40-minute artillery preparation and air strike. Hard fighting continued until November 1. The troops advanced 3-4 km and captured the southern part of the Kuporosnoe.

The situation on the front line resembled hell. These days, the fighter 422 th Infantry Division VI. Kovalenko, in a letter to his mother, said: “I am alive, and in a second, maybe they will be killed, because here life is second. Although you are writing not to think about death, but I do not think that I live, because there are very strong battles, a lot of people are killed, the corpses lie on the ground, look terrible: both the Germans and ours are poor, they rot and nobody needs , even buried, and then roll like sheaves. Tanks ride on people, like wood. The tank is covered in blood, it is terrible to watch. With me there are such comrades who are wounded from the first battle, there are those who do not have time to see the German, how they will kill him or injure him. ”

Thus, the success of flank counterattacks was small. However, for several days the enemy suspended the battles in the factory part of Stalingrad and our troops for some time delayed the regrouping of forces undertaken by the German command and the start of the fourth assault on Stalingrad.

Tank T-34 / 76 (produced by STZ) of the 6 Tank Brigade, shot down on Gogol Street in the center of Stalingrad

Soviet calculation of 50-mm company mortar firing in Stalingrad


For a whole month there were fierce battles all along the defense line of the 62 and 64 armies, but the Wehrmacht did not manage to break through the defenses of the Soviet troops. The German troops, in spite of their enormous combat experience and material and technical advantage, only in certain sectors, advanced a few hundred meters, reached the Volga. The enemy, having suffered heavy losses, failed to capture the whole city, including its coastal part.

In strategic terms, the Soviet Stalingrad group continued to rivet the forces and attention of the enemy. The Wehrmacht halted the offensive on the entire Soviet-German front and attacked only in the area of ​​Stalingrad.

Soviet machine-gun crew changes firing position in a broken house in Stalingrad

Soviet snipers go to the firing position in a ruined house in Stalingrad
Articles from this series:
1942 Campaign

The Third Reich again goes on the offensive.
"The whole Russian front was falling apart ..." Wehrmacht breakthrough in the southern strategic direction
Stalingrad Fortress
1942 year. "The operation in the south develops without stopping"
How the German army broke through to Stalingrad
Expectations to take Stalingrad a sudden blow failed
Breakthrough of the 6 of the German army to the northern outskirts of Stalingrad
Defeat of the Crimean Front
"The spirit of optimism ... vital at the command post of the front." Kharkov disaster of the Red Army
Khrushchev dumped all the blame for the Kharkov catastrophe on Stalin
How the Wehrmacht stormed the Caucasus
Battle for the Caucasus: no invasions from land
The battle for the "black gold" of the Caucasus
How failed operation "Edelweiss"
"Soviet troops fought for every inch of land ..."
"Verdun of World War II ..."
"It truly was hell." How to reflect the first blow to Stalingrad
"We will storm Stalingrad and take it ...". Second storming of the stronghold on the Volga
The second assault on Stalingrad. H. 2
The third assault on Stalingrad

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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 17 October 2017 06: 50
    "Tanks drive people like wood."

    In the memoirs of veterans, a paved road in the snow led to the Nursery (the last airdrome of the encircled group), but for some reason the very bumpy road-cars moved with difficulty ...
    When they looked, what’s the reason, it turned out that it was ALL, completely, dotted with frozen German corpses, in places and not in one layer .....
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 17 October 2017 07: 25
    And the "partners" in the West turn the language of the Battle of Stalingrad to call a myth ..
    1. Sergey Fomenko
      Sergey Fomenko 17 October 2017 09: 15
      In human nature, trying to forget fear, partners are trying ...
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 17 October 2017 20: 27
      this is normal.
    3. iouris
      iouris 18 October 2017 01: 16
      So Stalingrad does not exist!
      In 1982, the regiment commander at the ceremonial construction reported to the first commander of this regiment: "... Volgograd regiment .." The veteran interrupted him: "I do not know such a regiment - Stalingrad!"
    4. polpot
      polpot 18 October 2017 01: 33
      They and Gagarin in space did not have them, they believe in grandisers and iron man
  3. oldav
    oldav 17 October 2017 10: 01
    Were there urban battles in Stalingrad after being encircled in November?
    1. BAI
      BAI 17 October 2017 11: 13
      Fights were up to surrender.
      Until February 2, the official date for the end of the battle, battles in the city did not stop for a second.

      some parts of the German troops fought even after official surrender. They began to restore the Stalingrad Tractor in March, but armed clashes with the Germans hiding in underground communications took place on the territory of the plant and in April. Moreover, we are talking about several groups of German soldiers. There is some evidence of the capture of one, but rather large - about 200 people - group of Germans in early March 1943 on the territory of the Barricades factory.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 17 October 2017 13: 09
        Quote: BAI
        some parts of the German troops fought even after official surrender.

        Somehow I came across a magazine of the 60s with a diary of a front-line correspondent. After surrender, in one house, the Germans stuck out a white rag. When the joyful fighters began to approach, nemchura opened fire, all at once from several windows, point blank. In general, prisoners from this house were not taken.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 17 October 2017 21: 28
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          When the joyful fighters began to approach, nemchura opened fire, all at once from several windows, point blank. In general, prisoners from this house were not taken.

          In general, the commander’s stupid decision ... Those who surrendered should leave without weapons and with their hands up, and only when everyone comes out is there a mopping-up group with sappers ... request
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 17 October 2017 21: 48
            Quote: NIKNN
            In general, the stupid decision of the commander ..

            As far as I remember, there was no solution. Or rather, the officers were passive. After all, the Germans capitulated already. We did not expect such meanness.
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 17 October 2017 22: 04
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              We did not expect such meanness.

              Even in Berlin they didn’t do that, and indeed it’s not done that way .... Definitely a commander under the tribunal ... Well, because that ...
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 17 October 2017 22: 11
                Quote: NIKNN
                Even in Berlin they didn’t do that,

                Because, probably, they did not do that a bitter experience appeared.
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 17 October 2017 22: 14
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  that bitter experience appeared

                  By the 42nd bitter experience, it was already abundant .... C'mon ... I expressed my opinion ... Actually, the army is guided by charters and instructions, written in blood ... hi
        2. polpot
          polpot 18 October 2017 01: 36
          Apparently the correspondent’s imagination was rich imagined by the age of 60; there the Germans weren’t taking framers either
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 18 October 2017 02: 39
            Quote: polpot
            Apparently the correspondent’s imagination was rich and fantasized by the age of 60.

            There was no fantasy there. Quite specific entries with dates, last names and more. And no victorious cheers with mountains of German corpses in the complete absence of ours. Just hard work. I read a long time ago, in New Life, it seems.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 17 October 2017 20: 29
        about 200 people - a group of Germans in early March 1943 in the territory of the Barricades factory.
        means hunger for some. and this havchik was enough for another 2 months
    2. iouris
      iouris 18 October 2017 01: 17
      Read the book by Victor Nekrasov: "In the Trenches of Stalingrad." The book can be downloaded.
      1. polpot
        polpot 18 October 2017 01: 40
        A work of art is nothing more than how to study the Napoleonic wars on war and peace. In order to please the conjuncture V. Pikul sprinkled on Barbarossa about Stalingrad events also not a masterpiece
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 19 October 2017 06: 59
          Oh how. Well, if so judge Pikul and his novels, then ...... write better, at least one.
  4. BAI
    BAI 17 October 2017 11: 25
    I understand that this is not the end of a series of articles. Interestingly, the author will reveal this topic ?:
    The German forces near Stalingrad included: the Von Stumpfeld division, the 213rd cavalry (Cossack) battalion, the 403rd cavalry (Cossack) battalion, the 553rd separate Cossack battery, the 6th Ukrainian battalion (aka the 551st eastern battalion), 448th separate eastern company, Ukrainian construction company at the headquarters of the 8th infantry corps (176th eastern company), 113th Cossack squadron and 113th volunteer eastern company - as part of the 113th infantry division, Ukrainian 194th and 295th eastern construction companies, 76th volunteer eastern company (179th eastern company), volunteer Ukrainian company (552th eastern company), 404th Cossack company, 1st and 2nd Kalmyk squadrons (as part of the 16th motorized division).
    1. BAI
      BAI 17 October 2017 11: 48
      And in pursuit. Here is an interesting question too:
      The presence of German sailors in the region of Stalingrad - before and after the encirclement - is confirmed by eyewitnesses from among local residents and some archival documents. In TsAMO (Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense, the former Central Archive of the Soviet Army), Podolsk, the documents of the 36th Guards Rifle Division report that two naval officers (Leutenant zur See, Oberleutenant zur) surrendered on the division site on January 11, 1943 See), who were escorted to the headquarters of the 64th Army.

      Oberleutenant Stampel from the 14th Panzer Division recalled that during the withdrawal of their division from the city and the march to Karpovka, on November 18-19, they met the Kriegsmarine convoy, accompanied by a field gendarmerie. The tankers were still joking: “Hitler sent help. Now Tirpitz will enter the Volga, and the Russians will end. ”
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 17 October 2017 21: 32
        Quote: BAI
        And in pursuit. Here is an interesting question too:
        You have noticed interesting facts ... thanks, I will look for it is very interesting .. hi
    2. polpot
      polpot 18 October 2017 01: 43
      And what all this bastard (in the old Russian sense) remember they found a grave there and thank God
  5. creak
    creak 17 October 2017 11: 38
    According to Chuikov, Pavlov’s group destroyed more by the Germans than they lost during the capture of Paris ... This is true, but the Germans did not lose a single soldier there, because there was simply no capture. The French government declared Paris an open city and on June 10, 1940, German troops entered the city without a fight ...
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 17 October 2017 13: 06
      I think it was such an injection in the direction of the French.
    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey 17 October 2017 13: 33
      My grandfather and cousin Pavlov lived in the same entrance ... he buried ... they were friends, not so much, but in veteran ...
    3. Ivan Tartugai
      Ivan Tartugai 17 October 2017 13: 58
      Quote: ranger
      but the Germans didn’t lose a single soldier there at all

      It’s just that Chuikov most likely didn’t remember this, he didn’t talk about it himself, he didn’t write about it personally, but journalists, writers or the so-called litconsultants can do it in such a way that Chuikov himself supposedly remembered and said and wrote.
      1. creak
        creak 17 October 2017 14: 28
        Quote: Ivan Tartugay
        litconsultants can do so, present in such a way that Chuikov himself supposedly remembered, and spoke, and wrote.

        I agree, these borozopisy still can not ...
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 17 October 2017 21: 34
          Quote: ranger
          I agree, these borozopisy still can not ...

          I agree ... But maybe he said, only the meaning was different, well, like Paris meant France ...
  6. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 17 October 2017 14: 31
    Quote from the article:
    German troops despite great combat experience and material and technical advantage, only in certain areas, advanced several hundred meters, reached the Volga.

    Where from the Wehrmacht great combat experience in storming and taking cities?
    Surely they gained enormous combat experience during the capture of Warsaw, where the assault officially began on September 22, the Luftwaffe was bombed on September 25, and on September 28 the Polish command signed the surrender.
    Or maybe when taking Paris, there was no taking of Paris either.
    Or maybe Copenhagen, or Vienna, or Prague, or Oslo, or Athens? Everywhere entered the usual drill column, without any assault, without any military operations.
    1. Vadim Kurbatov
      Vadim Kurbatov 17 October 2017 18: 46
      Well, after all, the Soviet cities stormed, and the experience was less accumulated, and Stalingrad in practice so opened up and killed that already all the most experienced fighters either died or, without necessary training, were made junior officers
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 17 October 2017 21: 16
        Quote: Vadim Kurbatov
        Well, after all, Soviet cities stormed

        What kind? Until 1942, the Wehrmacht was not involved in urban battles, and there was no need for them.
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 17 October 2017 22: 51
          Did the Soviet cities themselves "fall at the feet of the victors"?
      2. Ivan Tartugai
        Ivan Tartugai 18 October 2017 15: 29
        Quote: Vadim Kurbatov
        Well, after all, Soviet cities stormed here

        Well, in what Soviet cities did the Wehrmacht gain enormous combat experience?
        Minsk and Kiev went around, there were no battles in the cities, only skirmishes, not enough for a huge combat experience.
        They left Odessa, they didn’t fight in the city. Our generals and admirals shamefully fled from Sevastopol, leaving the troops entrusted to them without control, without communications, without ammunition, without food, and without medicines. Rostov-on-Don, General Malinovsky, the future Marshal of Victory, shamefully surrendered, on this occasion even in the order of Bet No. 227 was noted. Although the Wehrmacht didn’t get to Moscow, it did not succeed in storming to gain enormous combat experience. The Wehrmacht also did not get to Leningrad, and again did not get a huge combat experience in street battles.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 17 October 2017 21: 13
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Where did the Wehrmacht have huge combat experience?

      It was about experience in principle, and not about the experience of urban battles.
    3. akims
      akims 22 October 2017 22: 07
      There was resistance both in France and in Belgium, even in Holland.
      Some Poles fought well. In Greece, the British resisted along with the locals.
  7. 11 black
    11 black 24 February 2018 16: 30
    Quote: Ivan Tartugay
    Our generals and admirals shamefully fled from Sevastopol, leaving the troops entrusted to them without command, without communications, without ammunition, without food, and without medicines.

    It was the Germans who left our troops without supplies. Army, incl. the officers fought heroically and completely exhausted the possibilities for resistance. During the assault on Sevastopol, the Germans used up a huge amount of ammunition - during the entire war they did not have such an expense of shells and bombs ...
    The officers were really taken out at the last moment - well, so we don’t go. They don’t have anything to be proud of, but it’s normal practice to save the officers who went through this meat grinder.
    Other facts also need to be analyzed in detail before drawing such high-profile conclusions.