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The two-day visit of Sergey Shoigu to Israel began

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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu arrived in Israel. The visit draws special attention to itself due to the fact that today Israeli Air Force planes attacked the positions of the Syrian air defense forces east of Damascus. At the same time, the IDF states that Russia was "informed about striking in real time." As a result of the air strike by the Israeli Air Force, as reported by the Israeli media, the C-200 air defense system was destroyed.


Sergei Shoigu meets with his Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman. Also, the head of the defense department of Russia will meet with the head of the Israeli Cabinet of Ministers, Benjamin Netanyahu.

According to the latest data, Sergey Shoigu arrived at Ben Gurion International Airport and went to the “Kiriya” Tel-Aviv complex. There he was met by Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, with whom negotiations began.

The two-day visit of Sergey Shoigu to Israel began


The conversation between the defense ministers of the Russian Federation and Israel is devoted to issues of a Syrian settlement. The Israeli side, we recall, is concerned about the strengthening of Hezbollah’s positions in the SAR (officially recognized as a terrorist group in Israel), as well as Iran’s positions. Earlier, the Israeli prime minister said that it was Iran’s military activities in the region that “impede the establishment of the peace process.” What prevented Israel to build peace before Iranian troops entered Syria, the Israeli Cabinet did not comment.

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that the visit of Sergei Shoigu to Israel will last two days.
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  1. DEPARTMENT
    DEPARTMENT 16 October 2017 18: 54 New
    27
    I would have deployed the plane, like Primakov, after the start of the bombing of Yugoslavia ..
    This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ... Shoigu sent them to Hesbollah !!!!
    1. foreman
      foreman 16 October 2017 19: 00 New
      +8
      I WOULD ALSO DEPLOYED, AND SO BEFORE THE FACT, WE DELIVERED WHAT WE WANT AND DO
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 16 October 2017 19: 22 New
        +6
        The two-day visit of Sergey Shoigu to Israel began

        I wonder what kind of “surprise” Israel prepared for the second day of Shoigu’s visit?
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 16 October 2017 21: 37 New
        0
        But no. He probably came to agree on something more. They wrote that they would discuss the Iranian nuclear program. Well, the base in Syria rests on the fact that neither Israel nor the Turks climb there.
      3. zivXP
        zivXP 16 October 2017 22: 09 New
        +7
        Shoigu is not a pilot, Shoigu is a fireman. He does not know how to turn the plane. Flies where ordered.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 17 October 2017 08: 08 New
          +8
          Shoigu is not a fireman, and for that matter - a fireman. A firefighter is such a bug, it will unfold itself anywhere in flight. Like this
          Well, as for the Minister of Defense, he is not only an airplane, ship or tank, he can deploy an entire army.
          Flies where ordered.
          Then I agree, the order of the Commander-in-Chief must be fulfilled. But if there is no ban, Shoigu himself gives orders.
    2. figwam
      figwam 16 October 2017 19: 02 New
      0
      Yes, they give a good hint or they also have pro-American military men like in Turkey who are not under the control of the Israeli leadership.
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 16 October 2017 19: 04 New
      12
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      I would have deployed the plane, like Primakov, after the start of the bombing of Yugoslavia ..
      This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ... Shoigu sent them to Hesbollah !!!!

      Don’t bend so much! When Russia blended into the Syrian conflict, it was well aware of what Israel was like and that it was at war with Syria. Negotiating and dotting the "and" is still necessary.
      1. Monos
        Monos 16 October 2017 19: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Proxima
        When Russia blended into the Syrian conflict, it was perfectly aware of what Israel is and that it is at war with Syria. Negotiating and dotting the "and" is still necessary.

        And more than once, our officials have stated that our goal is to fight terrorists, and we are not going to interfere in a showdown between the countries of the region. In any case, both Israel and Saudi Arabia cannot establish relations with Iran and Syria without Russia's mediation.
        1. starogil
          starogil 16 October 2017 21: 09 New
          +5
          Such actions by politicians are called conspiracy behind their backs.
      2. Esoteric
        Esoteric 16 October 2017 19: 39 New
        +6
        Quote: Proxima
        Negotiating and dotting the "and" is still necessary.

        Of course, you need to arrange all the "Points", "Iskander", "Triumphs" ...
        The Political Department (to my greatest surprise) expressed an idea that is the most mature. The policy of the upper echelon is worthy ... good
        1. poquello
          poquello 16 October 2017 19: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Esoteric
          Of course, you need to arrange all the "Points", "Iskander", "Triumphs" ...

          and what? to bring down all the garbage that flies from Israel? expensive
        2. bert123
          bert123 16 October 2017 20: 17 New
          +4
          S-400 has already been placed laughing
      3. Aspid 57
        Aspid 57 16 October 2017 21: 50 New
        +3
        Israel is theoretically at war in Syria! In active periods, they needed a few days to defeat Syria.
    4. poquello
      poquello 16 October 2017 19: 07 New
      +5
      quieter, quieter, Lieberman also has the best army in Europe
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 October 2017 19: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: poquello
        quieter, quieter, Lieberman also has the best army in Europe

        And how is it that Israel with Liberman and his best army in Europe turned out to be lol
        1. poquello
          poquello 16 October 2017 19: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: poquello
          quieter, quieter, Lieberman also has the best army in Europe

          And how is it that Israel with Liberman and his best army in Europe turned out to be lol

          The comrades with the gear on the flag spoke out here, well, in BV, well, not in Europe, but it sounded close.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 October 2017 19: 46 New
            0
            Quote: poquello
            Well, in BV, well, not in Europe, but it sounded close.

            Clear.
      2. Esoteric
        Esoteric 16 October 2017 19: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: poquello
        quieter, quieter, Lieberman also has the best army in Europe

        After Ukraine ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 16 October 2017 19: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Esoteric
          Quote: poquello
          quieter, quieter, Lieberman also has the best army in Europe

          After Ukraine ...

          nostril to nostril, writers are true here, and in dill, the first persons
      3. iouris
        iouris 17 October 2017 11: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: poquello
        Lieberman also has the best army in Europe

        Israel, of course, is Europe, but, it seems, thanks to Israel, Europe is becoming Eurabia.
    5. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 October 2017 19: 08 New
      20
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      I would have deployed the plane, like Primakov, after the start of the bombing of Yugoslavia ..
      This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ... Shoigu sent them to Hesbollah !!!!

      That's why Shoigu of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and you are the Political Department of your sofa.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 16 October 2017 19: 44 New
        12
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        That's why Shoigu of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and you are the Political Department of your sofa.

        Listen, resident of the state! Some people in Russia were even presidents, but they did not deserve respect for themselves. But Shoigu, for your information, is not an independent person. It was set up for the presidential line, which means that our president loves the people of Israel more than his own. Let him spit himself, he has servants who should serve rags ...
        1. starogil
          starogil 16 October 2017 21: 14 New
          +2
          We can say so in relation to Israel: our Guarantor is among us strangers,
          Alien to us among our own.
          1. Monos
            Monos 16 October 2017 21: 54 New
            11
            Quote: starogil
            Alien to us among our own.

            You - yes, a stranger. Look for yours among yours. Although I doubt that there are some among the spiders. smile
        2. Monos
          Monos 16 October 2017 21: 51 New
          +9
          Quote: Esoteric
          the people of Israel love more than their own. Let him spit himself, he has servants who should serve rags ...

          Only you spit on him. But you spit only yourself. smile
        3. Maz
          Maz 16 October 2017 23: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Esoteric
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          That's why Shoigu of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and you are the Political Department of your sofa.

          Listen, resident of the state! Some people in Russia were even presidents, but they did not deserve respect for themselves. But Shoigu, for your information, is not an independent person. It was set up for the presidential line, which means that our president loves the people of Israel more than his own. Let him spit himself, he has servants who should serve rags ...

          And here Aron Zaavi is right. And there is nothing to say about national pride. GDP brings the country under one denominator. And the population supports him. Pasha - and you will be happy. Lifts work. Learn and it will be a good job. Do not like it - you can go to Israel. It is warm, safe, and technologically advanced.
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    6. Herculesic
      Herculesic 16 October 2017 19: 26 New
      12
      Department - do you have a plane, or for lack thereof, will you unfold your sofa in the sky of Israel? ??? belay
    7. hydrox
      hydrox 16 October 2017 20: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      I would deploy a plane
      It seems that Shoigu will deploy a whole squadron against Harder, without waiting for the regiment of pro-Israeli “oppositionists (Israeli special forces to prepare their 500 snouts) to be formed in El Kuneitra and ready for military operations against the SAA. So there will be no sin 5 Caliber charge until this rubbish has not sniffed the blood ...
    8. sogdy
      sogdy 16 October 2017 20: 25 New
      0
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ...

      I apologize, but one shot at a position, with no defeat, from around the corner - from someone else's territory. Along with a loud statement, this is the humiliation of all the Israeli military, adnak.
      I believe the Skydiver would love to hear the explanations of the former Blue Oyster guard.
      Quote: figvam
      or they also have pro-American military men like in Turkey who are not under the control of the Israeli leadership.

      Israel has had no political leadership for 15 years.
    9. spirit
      spirit 16 October 2017 20: 25 New
      +3
      Seen Shoigu "a bit" visionary of you.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 16 October 2017 21: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: spirit
        "sensitive" visionary of you

        Do not decrypt? Or turn off the T9.
    10. corporal
      corporal 16 October 2017 21: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      I would have deployed the plane like Primakov,

      Do you, like Primakov, have a plane? wink If not, then just a sofa, your combat sofa. tongue
    11. Maz
      Maz 16 October 2017 23: 01 New
      0
      No need to panic, it was not our Boys who bombed Israel, and it is not yet known by whom. Here Shoigu will figure it out, remind, offer. I am sure Shoigu Liver will not be able to refuse the offer - I can’t snout into the lint wink Israel is also not having fun between the two superpowers maneuvering. So they are fighting themselves out. They need to please both Ours and Americans, and stay alive in this mess. Look how snarl like rats in a trap. Rather like a tantrum than common sense. And if you look at the map then the trap is
    12. Normal ok
      Normal ok 17 October 2017 00: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      I would have deployed the plane, like Primakov, after the start of the bombing of Yugoslavia ..
      This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ... Shoigu sent them to Hesbollah !!!!

      The times of greatness of the USSR have passed. Now, you just need to take your place in the global political arena. Now China is much more significant than Russia (unfortunately).
    13. CTEPX
      CTEPX 17 October 2017 06: 57 New
      0
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      This is the humiliation of Russia

      Or the humiliation of Israel? F-35 is knocked out with-200)).
  2. padded jacket
    padded jacket 16 October 2017 18: 56 New
    18
    SANA reported how the events with shelling of Israeli planes actually happened:
    UAR High Command: Army repulsed Israeli fighter attack
    The air defense of the Syrian army repelled an attack by Israeli military fighters, which invaded the airspace of the SAR near the Lebanese border.

    The High Command of the Army and Armed Forces of the SAR reported that 8.51 in the morning near the Lebanese border region of Baalbek, Israeli enemy planes invaded Syrian airspace, the SAR air defense was able to repel the attack and forced them to return back. At 11.38 from the occupied territories, the Israeli enemy launched rocket attacks on one of the army positions in Damascus province. There were no casualties, but material damage was inflicted.
    It should be recalled that the Zionist territorial entity is closely connected with terrorist organizations in Syria.
    http://sana.sy/ru/?p=122654
    1. tchoni
      tchoni 16 October 2017 20: 10 New
      0
      as always. "Our prizedin took the honorable second place, and the American - the penultimate ..."
    2. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 16 October 2017 21: 46 New
      +3
      Of course! No casualties! Israel warned the Russian Federation. RF Assad! Well, they fled like cockroaches!
    3. AUL
      AUL 16 October 2017 22: 35 New
      +2
      SAR air defense was able to repel the attack and forced them to return back.
      What is it like? To repulse the attack, in my mind, is to shoot down, or at least damage the plane. And then what is the "reflection of the attack"? Shot and missed?
  3. LAWNER
    LAWNER 16 October 2017 19: 04 New
    0
    Yeah .... It's bad that Shoigu does not like to comment. I would love to listen.
    And the Americans specifically said: Hezbollah is not terrorists!
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 16 October 2017 19: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: LAWNER
      Yeah .... It's bad that Shoigu does not like to comment. I would love to listen.

      The tongue-tied language of the servants of the sovereigns more than compensates CAM. lol In addition to Lavrov, he can be counted on the fingers. For free we feed the army of press secretaries in uniform and without uniforms, when Tsar Peter used to say:
      1. LAWNER
        LAWNER 16 October 2017 20: 01 New
        +2
        We feed, we pay taxes ...... Say to yourself: -I feed Syria and Peskov and laugh together ...
      2. sogdy
        sogdy 16 October 2017 20: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Esoteric
        The tongue-tied language of the servants of the sovereigns more than compensates for the SAM.

        How would it be softer to say?
        Not everyone needs to bother. Speech-language phrases in the yellow media on the conscience of these media. They will not even be refuted. On occasion, they’ll close, be lucky - not for a long time and not far away.
  4. Egorovich
    Egorovich 16 October 2017 19: 05 New
    10
    In a pot with ISIS, cooked with mattresses, Israel also poured their spices together. And now this bowler has scattered. We will see the results soon, but hardly good for the Jews.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 October 2017 19: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: Egorovich
      In a pot with ISIS, cooked with mattresses, Israel also poured their spices together. And now this bowler has scattered. We will see the results soon, but hardly good for the Jews.

      Don’t worry about us.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 31 New
        12
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Don’t worry about us.

        God forbid, we have our own worries - mouth full hi
      2. Egorovich
        Egorovich 16 October 2017 19: 32 New
        11
        So I don’t worry about you, it’s you who are sitting here for Russia “worrying”.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 October 2017 20: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: Egorovich
          So I don’t worry about you, it’s you who are sitting here for Russia “worrying”.

          I? Young man. Don't you confuse me with anyone?
          1. Maz
            Maz 16 October 2017 23: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Egorovich
            So I don’t worry about you, it’s you who are sitting here for Russia “worrying”.

            I? Young man. Don't you confuse me with anyone?
            yes Aron, people love you from the heart, even turn off logic as a flag with Magen will see :)
      3. shans2
        shans2 16 October 2017 19: 44 New
        +2
        we worry about you just as much as the Kurds)) well, you understand)
      4. Maz
        Maz 16 October 2017 23: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Egorovich
        In a pot with ISIS, cooked with mattresses, Israel also poured their spices together. And now this bowler has scattered. We will see the results soon, but hardly good for the Jews.

        Don’t worry about us.

        If Shoigu hadn’t come about you the next day, they would have forgotten. But now until Kozhugetovich leaves, they will write, talk and show only about this. And by wreck. , and on the First radio, and on channel 9 and other media. Including Hebrew. If only they wouldn’t pour mud like Medvedev on his last visit. With you become.
  5. Professor
    Professor 16 October 2017 19: 05 New
    13
    Sergey Kuzhugetovich, welcome to Israel. You are welcome here.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 October 2017 19: 12 New
      14
      Quote: Professor
      Sergey Kuzhugetovich, welcome to Israel. You are welcome here.

      That's right, you all the Jewish-Israeli people should rejoice when someone from Russia comes to you and do not forget to say "KU" lol
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        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 16 October 2017 19: 29 New
          +3
          Comrade Lunar Lupen, Shoigu brought you the Order of the Liver there, and use a rope fool
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 16 October 2017 19: 45 New
            +7
            Quote: Herkulesich
            Comrade Lunar Lupen, Shoigu brought you the Order of the Liver there, and use a rope fool

            Shoigu will not get cookies for him, but he will bring a folding toilet and a toothbrush, and this telepen runs to Vika Nuland for the liver. hi
      2. Partyzan
        Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 36 New
        +6
        - Savages. Listen, I love you, I will teach you.
        If I have a little KV, I have the right to wear yellow pants
        and in front of me the patsak should squat not once, but 2 times.
        If I have a lot of KVs, I have the right to wear raspberry pants,
        and in front of me and the patsak should squat 2 times, and do the chatlanin,
        and etsilopp has no right to beat me at night. Never!
        true?
    2. panzerfaust
      panzerfaust 16 October 2017 19: 24 New
      +2
      Finally, it’s time to decide who is really a friend to us and who is not “friend and not enemy, but like that”.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 16 October 2017 20: 43 New
        0
        Quote: panzerfaust
        it's time to decide

        What for? Is it already a world war? The art of diplomacy is to say "what a nice little dog" while you are looking for a stick. (C) This is much less costly.
    3. rruvim
      rruvim 16 October 2017 20: 56 New
      +2
      Sholom, Sholom ... Do you happen to have a Saturday there?
    4. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 16 October 2017 22: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Sergey Kuzhugetovich, welcome to Israel. You are welcome here.

      Professor, how many joys do you have for all Jews ... Congratulations!

      Not yet evening...
  6. Sergey Fomin
    Sergey Fomin 16 October 2017 19: 08 New
    +7
    Putin today said his word about the DPRK, now Shoigu has gotten in the way of handing over friends .... business, nothing personal, the Israeli lobby is very strong in the Russian Federation.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 16 October 2017 20: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Fomin
      Putin said his word today about the DPRK

      So what word did Putin personally say to you?
      And then we only remember "Russia has its interests in the DPRK, and does not intend to infringe on them."
      Like a million or two "Korean workers" who sharply left the PRC.
      Well, where can I understand that all the noise because of the Olympics is for the sake of the sweepstakes. As with dope. And with the "corruption" in FIFA.
      Quote: Sergey Fomin
      Shoigu is now in a hurry to make friends

      You will not list, after all whom?
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  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 16 October 2017 19: 16 New
    +3
    "During the meeting, it is planned to discuss military issues and military-technical cooperation and regional security problems, "spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov (RIA), told reporters .... Military cooperation!? ... bomb the Syrians together or what?
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 October 2017 19: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: samarin1969
      Military cooperation!? ... bomb the Syrians together or what?

      Well, we certainly will not beg for arms from Russia. We are not Arabs or Persians.

      PS
      Tomorrow Shoigu will go to the reception in the capital, Jerusalem (or whatever it is in Arabic).
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 16 October 2017 19: 50 New
        +8
        That's for sure, you have long been firmly on the free provision of weapons from the states, why should you beg for it? Even the owner will not allow us to buy weapons from us or sell us to us.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 October 2017 19: 51 New
        +6
        Quote: Professor
        Tomorrow Shoigu will go to the reception for the premiere in the capital, in Jerusalem

        You see, what Putin honors your Prime Minister Netanyahu for the last time, even for Moscow, but didn’t accept him in Sochi in the backyards of Russia as an especially important personlol
      3. Yeah
        Yeah 16 October 2017 19: 52 New
        +1
        We'll wait and see, but I think something is the last Chinese warning, because it was not in vain that the s-300 was pulled up with the s-400, and Israel was very worried about this, but they might shoot ...
        1. Aspid 57
          Aspid 57 16 October 2017 21: 44 New
          +1
          They can ... they can! Then they will wash themselves with blood for a long time!
      4. Beitar
        Beitar 16 October 2017 20: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        (or whatever it is in Arabic).

        Oleg, it's time to put the badge (s). hi
        1. Professor
          Professor 16 October 2017 21: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Beitar
          Quote: Professor
          (or whatever it is in Arabic).

          Oleg, it's time to put the badge (s). hi

          I am now busy registering a patent in the USA related to my main specialty. As soon as my lawyer is released, I will ask him to register this too. wink

          PS

          1. Beitar
            Beitar 16 October 2017 21: 24 New
            +2
            Then ask your lawyer to contact mine. wink Be makor enchantment refers to the "Golan, Judea and Samaria (or whatever they are in Arabic)." smile
            1. Professor
              Professor 16 October 2017 21: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Beitar
              Then ask your lawyer to contact mine. wink Be makor enchantment refers to the "Golan, Judea and Samaria (or whatever they are in Arabic)." smile

              Like any decent Israeli I have an 3 lawyer, one American in Philadelphia is involved in a patent, the other one is a specialist in nadlan, and the third one is in transport matters. Do you also?
              The expression applies to everything Jewish that the Fylists are claiming. Take advantage of your health. hi
              1. sivuch
                sivuch 17 October 2017 10: 37 New
                +1
                How interesting . It turns out that I and all my friends are dishonest. What you don’t know about yourself.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 17 October 2017 11: 43 New
                  +1
                  Quote: sivuch
                  How interesting . It turns out that I and all my friends are dishonest. What you don’t know about yourself.

                  You are not ripe yet. wink
          2. iouris
            iouris 17 October 2017 11: 51 New
            0
            Interestingly, does Shoigu have a Hebrew translator, Yiddish or communicate without translators?
      5. sogdy
        sogdy 16 October 2017 21: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Well, we certainly will not beg for arms from Russia. We are not Arabs or Persians.

        Well, yes, of course, who needs your supposedly virtual money.
        Quote: samarin1969
        issues of military and military-technical cooperation and regional security problems

        Well, everything has already been said: access to our reserve government connection (where they ask for an urgent pardon) and clarification of the notification time (because "in real time" is not even an excuse, but a "legal dodge"). And the classic question: “what will and when will you compensate” - otherwise Netanyahu puts a tooth, but he won’t put it in any way.
      6. starogil
        starogil 16 October 2017 21: 22 New
        0
        The Canaanite city of Jerusalem has never been and never will be the capital of Israel.
        1. Professor
          Professor 16 October 2017 21: 23 New
          +5
          Quote: starogil
          The Canaanite city of Jerusalem has never been and never will be the capital of Israel.

          lol
      7. alexmach
        alexmach 16 October 2017 21: 53 New
        0
        Well, yes, begging from the states is much more honorable :)
        1. Professor
          Professor 16 October 2017 21: 55 New
          +6
          Quote: alexmach
          Well, yes, begging from the states is much more honorable :)

          It’s not a shame to ask the rich, especially since we never dishonored their weapons, but even the opposite. They did free advertising.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 16 October 2017 22: 02 New
            0
            Yes Yes. You really, as it is in your interests, are not ashamed, nor what else.
  8. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 October 2017 19: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: samarin1969
    Military cooperation!? ... bomb the Syrians together or what?

    Well, we certainly will not beg for arms from Russia. We are not Arabs or Persians.

    PS
    Tomorrow Shoigu will go to the reception in the capital, Jerusalem (or whatever it is in Arabic).

    No need to climb into the heat in front of the Old Man, i.e. wait for the results of these conversations. Israel is not our friend, but Iran is only a fellow traveler. And the Israelis have the benefit of the war in Syria, which is why they are arming and treating terrorists. So I think Kuzhugetovich will give them a warning about the possible consequences. Israeli politicians, fixated on short-term gain, quarreled with all neighbors instead of creating an atmosphere of peace through negotiations with everyone. Well, in the end, they will receive everything from everyone. And Russia will end the war in Syria, no matter how much Israel and their patron SGA prevent it! hi
    1. bert123
      bert123 16 October 2017 19: 43 New
      +1
      “So I think Kuzhugetovich will give them a warning about the possible consequences.” - and let him express concern
    2. samarin1969
      samarin1969 16 October 2017 19: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Vlad5307
      So I think Kuzhugetovich (?!) Will give them (!?) A warning (?!) About the possible consequences.

      That's for sure: "blessed is he who believes" ...
    3. Professor
      Professor 16 October 2017 21: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Vlad5307
      therefore, arming, treating terrorists.

      Docs to the studio.

      Quote: Vlad5307
      And Russia will end the war in Syria, no matter how much Israel and their patron SGA prevent it!

      Russia will end its presence in this war, but the war itself will be long there. Very long.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 16 October 2017 23: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Russia will end its presence in this war, but the war itself will be long there. Very long.

        Nicho that in Russia the Civil War officially ended in the 1937 year? Taki experience.
        And in Syria, Russia will never "end its presence."
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 October 2017 06: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: sogdy
          Nicho that in Russia the Civil War officially ended in the 1937 year? Taki experience.

          ... and in Afghanistan put things in order. Taki experience.

          Quote: sogdy
          And in Syria, Russia will never "end its presence."

          This is not the first time that the Arabs kicked in the ass for anyone who thought they had settled forever. They will pay asad more and the Russian campaign in Syria will end on the same day. request
  9. Partyzan
    Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 44 New
    +9
    Quote: Professor
    Well, we certainly will not beg for arms from Russia. We are not Arabs or Persians.

    and who will give it to you? only if cropped
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 16 October 2017 19: 55 New
      +2
      Well, you use a computer and flash drives so they are also cut off in Israel
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 16 October 2017 20: 03 New
        +7
        Quote: Lex.
        Well, you use a computer and flash drives so they are also cut off in Israel

        Damn, tell me where? twisted three, did not find circumcision request
        1. Lex.
          Lex. 16 October 2017 20: 11 New
          +2
          Joke better
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 16 October 2017 20: 16 New
            +8
            I checked all the cords - intact, I launched Aida - I can still speed it up, where did I cut it?
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 October 2017 08: 40 New
              +7
              Volodya hi Maybe he means wireless mice and keyboards? Those seem to be there. But what “cut-off computers and flash drives in Israel” means is inaccessible to my mind. recourse Maybe they have some kind of ritual over them in Israel when they buy them? wink
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 17 October 2017 10: 14 New
                +4
                Quote: Svarog51
                Maybe they have some kind of ritual over them in Israel when they buy them?

                good wassat drinks
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 October 2017 10: 32 New
                  +7
                  Well, what? I have not been to Israel, I can only make assumptions. It is only they who can either reject this assumption, or confirm. I would like to look at the "cropped" flash drive, well, at least in the photo. wink drinks
                  1. Partyzan
                    Partyzan 17 October 2017 10: 44 New
                    +5
                    Sergei hi found
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 October 2017 11: 46 New
                      +7
                      Nah, Volodya, this is not a ride. By the way, I found a scam lol

                      Here, take a look. A "circumcised" flash drive is when you buy 2 Gigovoy, bring it home, stick it in, and there is only Gig or less. Then yes, you can’t argue - "circumcised." repeat
            2. Lex.
              Lex. 17 October 2017 18: 21 New
              +1
              USB sticks invented a processor in a computer in Israel too So maybe you won’t use Israeli developments
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 17 October 2017 18: 35 New
                +4
                not intel? then argue
        2. sogdy
          sogdy 16 October 2017 23: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: Partyzan
          twisted three, did not find circumcision

          So it is said: in Israel. And you are not there.
    2. Beitar
      Beitar 16 October 2017 21: 00 New
      +2
      And what can you offer Syabry (nomenclature)?
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 17 October 2017 08: 47 New
        +7
        Beitar, welcome hi Is such a machine suitable?

        Find what to carry on it? wink By the way, there are training machines. They have a tank instead of a rocket. You can deliver water, a lot of water. In the desert, that’s it. good
        1. Beitar
          Beitar 17 October 2017 10: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Svarog51
          Find what to carry on it?

          About 20 years ago, already found.
          https://www.avi-cranes.co.il/hydraulic-telescopic
          -cranes

          Quote: Svarog51
          You can deliver water, a lot of water. In the desert, that’s it.

          In a country where a water pipe is drawn to each tree, such an offer seems like a waste of money (well, it seems to me).
          I still can’t understand what Belarus can offer Israel in terms of armaments. (Partyzan squeezed something there, in a couple of posts above)
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 17 October 2017 11: 53 New
            +8
            In a country where a water pipe is drawn to each tree, such an offer seems like a waste of money (well, it seems to me).

            I didn’t know that. I apologize. hi
            (Partyzan clamped something there, in a couple of posts above)

            Here I strongly disagree, Vladimir is not greedy. Well, maybe a little homey. And you yourself, directly, ask. We are discussing a flash drive a little higher with him. wink
            1. Beitar
              Beitar 17 October 2017 12: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Svarog51
              And you yourself, directly, ask.

              Thank you, but it seems to me that there will be no answer, or it will not be very related to the question. Why waste time on this?
              Quote: Svarog51
              I didn’t know that. I apologize.

              type in the search for "drip irrigation". There is a huge amount of material on this topic. It is not a shame to not know something, it is a shame not to try to learn something! I was thinking that maybe we are importing potassium salt from Belarus, it turned out we ourselves are extracting it. smile It seems to me that Belarus has nothing to offer Israel, not only in the defense sector ... no
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 17 October 2017 13: 23 New
                +8
                Well, if the question is not related to his profession, then he is unlikely to tell you anything useful. And as for agriculture, I will not say anything sensible. Not my profile, I’m giving the mother-in-law a cottage, as I go to the link. request
                1. Lex.
                  Lex. 17 October 2017 18: 22 New
                  +2
                  And you buy a hundred drones in Israel under the name outpost how to deal with these?
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 17 October 2017 19: 47 New
                    +8
                    What am I buying? What other drones?
                    how to be with these?

                    You can be as you wish, I personally have no objections. Just ask a counter-question - and didn’t you arrange the ice age for the mammoths?
                  2. Yeah
                    Yeah 18 October 2017 22: 40 New
                    0
                    and you enter us sanctions (some of them have entered ...) and find out ...
  10. Lex.
    Lex. 16 October 2017 20: 17 New
    +2
    Here we have a local radio in Russian. Reka was invited by a local expert, Evgeny Klauber, doctor of sciences and all sorts of other things supposedly all of this type of propaganda such as Russia only liberated the desert and fights still ahead are our experts
  11. vearey
    vearey 16 October 2017 20: 42 New
    +1
    An interesting visit, of course, is unclear how and what they will be resolving there, but any agreement in principle can affect the whole picture of the warhead. Especially against the background of America's rapprochement with Sunni countries and their statements about Israel.
  12. Sergey Fomin
    Sergey Fomin 16 October 2017 20: 43 New
    +3
    The Middle East is the last place in this world where weakness is forgiven, and Israel is the last place of these last, where they will not try to cut off your head if you smiled twice in response to a slap in the face.
  13. aiden
    aiden 16 October 2017 20: 57 New
    +2
    keep away from these unpunished # $$$ coves. and no negotiations with them. parasite country
  14. XXXIII
    XXXIII 16 October 2017 21: 03 New
    +2
    We will closely monitor, probably something essential will be rubbed, What will Israel offer for our democracy ?! Although it is unlikely to know the details, only the headings will show ....
  15. aiden
    aiden 16 October 2017 21: 05 New
    +3
    owners of the portal, rename the portal to "Jewish Review", they are the majority here
  16. iouris
    iouris 16 October 2017 21: 05 New
    0
    It looks like a trip to a historic homeland. Specifically, was the S-200 battery near Damascus destroyed under this case?
  17. high
    high 16 October 2017 21: 11 New
    +4
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    I would have deployed the plane, like Primakov, after the start of the bombing of Yugoslavia ..
    This is the humiliation of Russia when Israel bombed in Syria ... Shoigu sent them to Hesbollah !!!!

    Paradoxically, Syria attacked the Israeli plane, Israel answered .... ,, naturally, Israel is to blame for the anti-Semites ....
    There is an agreement between Russia and Israel: whoever attacks Israel receives an adequate response ....
    By the way, the Prime Minister of Israel always pays attention to this:
    “Our policy is simple: we will respond to everyone who tries to attack us. Today (16.10.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX) an attempt was made to shoot down our aircraft - this is unacceptable to us.
    The Air Force acted accurately, quickly and destroyed what was needed.
    We will continue to operate in the airspace to the extent necessary to protect the security of Israel, "
    It is time for some on the forum to understand that Assad simultaneously sucks two queens, Russia and Iran ..... Russia has repeatedly called on Assad: not to touch Israel, Iran has a different opinion .... that’s what it got.
    Therefore, Iran and the anti-Semites are indignant, and the Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu is silent, knowing that Israel is right ...
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 16 October 2017 21: 40 New
      +1
      Correctly! According to the formula from the immortal "White Desert Sun." Said, why did you kill my people? Shot!
    2. vearey
      vearey 16 October 2017 23: 19 New
      +1
      Iran and anti-Semites
      We can say Iran-paid anti-Semites.
  18. rruvim
    rruvim 16 October 2017 21: 16 New
    +2
    Like a silly dream ::
    Shoigu Lieberman: "Well, I didn’t know that it was so cold with you ..."
    Lieberman: "Therefore, the hair is gray. However, hoarfrost."
    Shoigu: "Take it from me, hoarfrost."
    Lieberman: "In general, we no longer have Saturday. We need to warm ourselves up, otherwise we have to put on a bale again. And all these fucking Palestinians!"
    Shoigu: “And I have everything with me. In the army flask -“ Stolichnaya ”.
    Lieberman: "Come on, quickly ... And then Benya will be dragged, and he has the whole week, like Saturday!"
    Shoigu (sniffing Lieberman's "hair") "And the pilots too?"
    Lieberman falls to the floor, and wheezing, choking on vomiting, squeezes out: "They had a day off ... Holidays ..."
    Shoigu removes the flask from the Stolichnaya in his pocket and goes to meet Netanyahu.
  19. corporal
    corporal 16 October 2017 21: 27 New
    +6
    I would like to read about the prospects of military cooperation, who thinks what about this, but again, different assholes have dirtied the whole branch.
    The site has turned into trash. It’s sad. request
    Admins !! Return the emergency!
  20. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 October 2017 21: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: hydrox
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    I would deploy a plane
    It seems that Shoigu will deploy a whole squadron against Harder, without waiting for the regiment of pro-Israeli “oppositionists (Israeli special forces to prepare their 500 snouts) to be formed in El Kuneitra and ready for military operations against the SAA. So there will be no sin 5 Caliber charge until this rubbish has not sniffed the blood ...

    500 snouts even trained by Israeli special forces are only 500 snouts.
    And by what signs did you see signs that Shoigu would be deploying something somewhere?
    1. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 16 October 2017 21: 38 New
      +2
      And where does such information come from? What the Israelis are preparing for someone there? Are there credible sources?
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 16 October 2017 22: 20 New
        +3
        They don’t cook anything there. They just want to know how the "showdown" over Syria will end. The curious hurt ... Although you can understand them, "under the nose" after all.
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 16 October 2017 21: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Vlad5307
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: samarin1969
    Military cooperation!? ... bomb the Syrians together or what?

    Well, we certainly will not beg for arms from Russia. We are not Arabs or Persians.

    PS
    Tomorrow Shoigu will go to the reception in the capital, Jerusalem (or whatever it is in Arabic).

    No need to climb into the heat in front of the Old Man, i.e. wait for the results of these conversations. Israel is not our friend, but Iran is only a fellow traveler. And the Israelis have the benefit of the war in Syria, which is why they are arming and treating terrorists. So I think Kuzhugetovich will give them a warning about the possible consequences. Israeli politicians, fixated on short-term gain, quarreled with all neighbors instead of creating an atmosphere of peace through negotiations with everyone. Well, in the end, they will receive everything from everyone. And Russia will end the war in Syria, no matter how much Israel and their patron SGA prevent it! hi

    You rave ...! wassat
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  23. rocket757
    rocket757 16 October 2017 21: 38 New
    +4
    I f ... y from this zoo.
    Whoever was with the "comrades" Persians, Arabs, and other foreigners COMMUNICATED, WORKED, SERVED, TEACHED ???
    Why did someone decide that we have a lot of friends outside our homeland ???
    Vietnamese, Cubans. Koreans - I know and believe.
    In Europe - no one was left, and the Germans cannot be trusted.
    The Middle East - I know I do not believe and do not like ... and there, when not, Russia did not have enemies ???
    Peter's mandate - Russia has only two loyal allies ARMY and Navy - as relevant as never before !!!
    Why such a long introduction:
    - why did Russia help the Syrian government ... a plague called ISIS would get to OUR BORDERS, while it could become much stronger and then we would "wash our face with blood" in full !!!
    - the time has come to show that we have the strength and ability to defend our interests (economic, political and other vital). Just sitting on the train and waiting for those who want to shave us like sheep or to score, we WILL NOT be and are ready to prove it to anyone.
    That's the whole philosophy ...
    Sons of Israel - I don’t belong to them, I just don’t like it, although you can work with them. I understand perfectly well that they need a mess in the Middle East, they also put their “hands" to this, but for them it's really a QUESTION OF SURVIVAL !!! If a single power / unification appears in the Muslim world, Israel will disappear at the same time !!!
    Can anyone know how to unravel the tangle of contradictions in the east ??? I have no idea. My understanding is enough to hope only for the mercy of the ALMIGHTY 0.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 16 October 2017 23: 14 New
      +1
      Psychopathic commentary. And about ISIS, we already had it. And I lived in 1999 next to the blown up house on Kashirka, many Muscovites lived and survived this terror. And all this was before any situation in Syria. To say that ISIS will break through our borders is stupid, since we already had it. Most likely he already broke from us to Syria ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 October 2017 08: 01 New
        +3
        rruvim - Psychopathic commentary.
        This residual effect ... there are some analogies !!! yes mass-entertainer one and the same, for sure !!!
        Only the chronology is different - first an attempt to destroy the state, then terror.
        in Syria, an attempt to destroy the state through terror.
        Here is Iraq and Libya - that zeznik, the options / scenarios for the destruction of the alteration of states are different.
        In principle, if civic consciousness does not coincide with the desire of the country's leadership to preserve the State ... full kirdyk !!!
        We were able to save ourselves !!! Now we are helping others and this is CORRECT !!!
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 16 October 2017 23: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Sons of Israel - I don’t belong to them, I just don’t like it, although you can work with them.

      I'm sorry, but only obscene. They substitute each other, considering it a blessing.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 October 2017 08: 05 New
        +3
        For the mat it’s clear, norms. And who are they who substitute each other ???
        Honestly, where and in whom do not point a finger at all, you can find such incidents!
    3. iouris
      iouris 17 October 2017 11: 39 New
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Can anyone know how to unravel the tangle of contradictions in the east ???

      As an option: make a new ball in another area. For example, evacuating Israel (or part of it) somewhere in Odessa, Vinnitsa and former Dnepropetrovsk. Or bang Iran.
  24. rruvim
    rruvim 17 October 2017 01: 14 New
    +2
    1968th On the eve of:
    Phoning Leonid Ilyich Nixon:
    "Richie, something Johnson has unbelted."
    Nixon - “I’m just getting elected, and you are ringing the alarm line. Kennedy last time picked up this phone ...”
    Leonid Ilyich - "He decided it in six days. Now Nasser will eat me."
    Nixon - "Lenya, and me, if I am elected, the Jews will be gnawed. After all, will you start a war of attrition?
    Leonid Ilyich - "I'll start ..."
    Nixon - "Lenya is a friend, why do we need a protracted war? I’m going to the moon ..."
    Leonid Ilyich - “I know! You have ten more years of trouble in Indochina ... That's why I’m calling. I’ve been giving you five years, no more for this war. You’ll tighten it, there will be a scandal over your whole Hollywood. And fly to the moon. Still a small step, a big step for mankind! Hehe ... Yes, still disguise your Phantoms as parts of missiles for the lunar program, otherwise it’s inconvenient for the Allies "
    Nixon: "Well, you also fly there?"
    Leonid Ilyich: “We have no capacities at Mosfilm, we will send a lunar tractor to the moon.
    Nixon "???"
    Leonid Ilyich: “Richie don’t worry, he’s not big. But you have to send healthy men there. Ha ha !!! Yes, and now our hydrographic vessel will cut the wire. Blockade of Cuba, so blockade ...”
  25. rocket757
    rocket757 17 October 2017 12: 03 New
    +3
    Quote: iouris
    Quote: rocket757
    Can anyone know how to unravel the tangle of contradictions in the east ???

    As an option: make a new ball in another area. For example, evacuating Israel (or part of it) somewhere in Odessa, Vinnitsa and former Dnepropetrovsk. Or bang Iran.

    Wow ... I remembered such a line from a song! - Mary Pickfort. to the moon!!!-
    Mozh and the truth, to breed all these sheikhs, monarchs from the faithful to the grandmother !!! Let them finance the next outcome of the Jews ... to hell. And they will come to them all nishtyakov from their fellow believers, and the glory over the centuries for the liberation of shrines, and the Gordeev’s knot of contradictions will be cut once and for all ... for a long time!
    All the same, the Jews have nowhere to go ... as soon as the interest in the world falls for oil wealth and Uncle Sam’s hand is removed from this region !!! I don’t try to guess. how long will Israel last ???
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 17 October 2017 12: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      I don’t try to guess. how long will Israel last ???

      Most likely, the Israeli leadership has already stolen from the budget stuffing their pockets with shekels and dollars and they, when the situation worsens, will run away to the USA and other "warm" places and to the rest of the Israeli Jews they actually "don't care" and with them if they don't have time to quickly "wash off" something bad will happen.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 October 2017 12: 53 New
        +3
        I don’t have a very high opinion of the powers that be and the rich, all countries without exception ... however, the people of Israel are vengeful enough, they can’t keep their stubbornness, and their family ties have been cultivated for centuries of persecution !!! so suppose that the powers that be just throw their people ... I doubt or have a higher opinion about them.
        Well, I suggest a quite adequate, albeit a fantastic way out! By and large, that the lunar landscape, that the promised land is not a big difference ... well, as it were, there is no air. so break the right price, they will breathe less !!!
        JOKE, sorry, could not resist. deep-rooted habits, superstition, and more. other ....
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 17 October 2017 13: 48 New
          +9
          Victor, welcome hi It is a bad idea to send the Israelites to the moon. They will surely find something useful there and require that they pay with air for it, in the end we have nothing to breathe on Earth here. lol Well, to continue the joke - a joke: Two Jews got to a desert island after a shipwreck. Five years later, they were found and saved, while they turned out to be very rich people. They have been selling beach sand to each other for five years.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 October 2017 14: 51 New
            +3
            I had a desire to squeeze a couple of jokes into the text, but to look like a cynical reptile / villain is somehow not comme il faut.
            He joked and okay ... I knowingly pointed out about maliciousness ... and acquaintances may not correctly understand.
            But the problem for the people of Israel after certain events (oil and Yankee cover) WILL !!! I doubt that the State will survive them. So you might think what to do, where to go to the end? The moon is not a bad and fantastic perspective ... though. we can think for Mars.
            What to say.. belay . I have moments of hyper-concern for the fate of the world, for something or someone else.
            Probably getting old? hi
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 October 2017 15: 18 New
              +9
              What to say.. . I have moments of hyper-concern for the fate of the world, for something or someone else.
              Probably getting old?

              This happens to everyone from time to time, sometimes it also brings me to such wilds, already horror. wink All according to the classics: "And then Ostap suffered." good
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 October 2017 15: 58 New
                +3
                Suppose Ostap cannot take away on the topic of events in the Middle East, because it is difficult to even imagine the limits of rational and frank fantasies.
                Some time ago, everything was clearer ... there was mutually beneficial or forced cooperation with soy ..... different parties. The conclusions were different ... I personally began not to bear the Arabs spirit. The Israelis ... I do not like identity either, but they deserve respect. Persians. Ottomans, etc. ... about the same, not friends, but can be forced allies, for whom you need an eye, an eye, or even a club in stock.
                Ivot again got into this ... unpleasant, difficult place. Yes, and even after there the Yankees hosted !!! What will you like? It’s not clear ... one thing is clear, you need to keep your ears at the top of your head and prepare a reinforced concrete in the rear rear!
  26. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 17 October 2017 12: 39 New
    0
    Iran is going to build its military bases in Syria. Israel will not allow this ... How will it not allow it? Bombed ... They have no other choice. Is Kremlin gaining such a strengthening of Iran? Also no. You have to choose ... Either reel fishing rods from Syria, or sit quietly and not interfere. Similarly, the Saudi king explained to the Kremlin, and even offered a bribe in the form of consent to the procurement of Russian weapons. Now Shoigu came to Israel to bargain simply, publicly announcing in advance the possible end of our participation in the war. No wonder it is said that it’s easy to get into the war room, but it’s difficult to get out of it ...