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Ukraine wants six boats to defeat Russia

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The leadership of the Ukrainian Navy has developed tactics for attacking Russian ships: it is a Wolf Pack or a Mosquito navy"- when combat boats attack from several sides.


"Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship
- leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.

It is noted that this tactic is not an invention of Ukrainian sailors. A large ship will not be able to hold at gunpoint and fire at several targets simultaneously. The six boats that make up the “Wolf Pack” are also called the “Mosquito Fleet”, as it is unobtrusive.

Ukraine wants six boats to defeat Russia


At the exercises, Ukrainian boats attacked the conditional “aggressor”. The commander of the ship "Cherkasy" Yuri Fedash said that Ukraine needs the constant presence of ships with missile weapons. It is noted that Ukraine has already received several new combat boats, and soon there will be three or four more.

At the same time, in the TSN plot, the military admits that the Ukrainian Navy has an intention to return the strategic gas platforms, which were sent to Russia along with the Crimea, including with the use of combat boats.

In late September, Vice-Admiral Igor Voronchenko, commander of the Ukrainian Navy, said that his country's fleet needed anti-submarine ships to protect against Russian submarines. In August, Vice-Admiral of the Ukrainian Navy, Sergey Haiduk, announced that due to the lack of state maritime policy, the Ukrainian fleet could disappear soon. According to Haiduk, the development of the Russian Black Sea Fleet cannot be compared with the state of the Navy.

From 2014 to 2017, two new frigates with cruise missiles Caliber, four submarines with cruise missiles, coastal missile systems arrived on the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.
- He complained, adding that the Ukrainian fleet is replenished only with boats.

In April, the captain of the first rank of the Ukrainian Navy, Yevgeny Lupakov, said that if Ukraine had submarines, it would have allegedly easily defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet, in response, State Duma deputy Ruslan Balbek advised Kiev to refrain from joking about the Black Sea Fleet, warning that the Ukrainian decision A submarine heading to the shores of the Crimea would be for them a “one-way hike,” reports "Sight"

Today, the Navy has 11 ships. According to experts, the frigate Hetman Sagaidachny, the Priluki missile boat, the Genichesk and Cherkasy minesweepers, the Svatovo and Kirovograd landing ships, the Vinnitsa corvette and the Skadovsk artillery boat are part of the Ukrainian Navy. . Plus, those same armored.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 16 October 2017 16: 35 New
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    “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
    - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


    Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
    1. iConst
      iConst 16 October 2017 16: 40 New
      33
      Quote: cniza
      “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
      - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


      Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
      Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.
      1. Zibelew
        Zibelew 16 October 2017 16: 42 New
        18
        It's a pity for these boats and anti-ship missiles, the AK176 is enough. There should be 20-30 against one Russian guard, in order to have a chance to die with dignity. Although if it works, and they come closer, then what will they cover? 30 mm bulb? Current if a kamikaze boat with 5 tons of TNT. The flock of mosquitoes generally will not sink, but will cause Russian ships to itch.
        1. oleg-gr
          oleg-gr 16 October 2017 16: 44 New
          11
          "Curious" tactics. It is one thing to attack a merchant and unarmed ship and another to a well-armed warship. What about quick-fire weapons?
          1. cniza
            cniza 16 October 2017 17: 01 New
            18
            It is they who cheer themselves up, and so understand that without options.
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 16 October 2017 17: 59 New
              27
              It’s they who cheer themselves up
              they have the most powerful in the world raft
          2. x.andvlad
            x.andvlad 16 October 2017 17: 28 New
            +5
            "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship
            - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.

            What is the "wolf pack" has long been known. But will ukroflot have enough greyhound and desire not to go back?
            By and large, there is nothing new in this idle talk for cheap PR. If this "sea wolf Regula" will chat differently, then it will simply be "trampled", and who will need it then? And then he will have to row to Europe to work as a gardener or rigger somewhere in Marseille or Gdansk.
            1. BMP-2
              BMP-2 16 October 2017 18: 32 New
              +5
              I think with wolves and mosquitoes - they got excited: they mixed up mosquitoes with pugs! laughing
              Well, judge for yourself: what's the point of calling the flea circus the Wolf Pack? request fool laughing
              1. sergevonsohrn
                sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 12: 49 New
                +3
                yes, a clear insult to the “wolves” .... but in fact, the tactics of the “wolf packs” were invented by the notorious Hitler Admiral Doenitz, as applied to submarines. Raguli, apparently, are rather weak in history ....
                1. BMP-2
                  BMP-2 17 October 2017 13: 53 New
                  0
                  So they don’t need a story: they invented a new one for themselves! And in key moments - coinciding with the history of Nazi Germany. Well, I hope that everything will be the same for them! laughing
          3. Elevator
            Elevator in the building 16 October 2017 18: 20 New
            +5
            Do you think "it" bothered to get acquainted with the performance characteristics? According to these admirals, the "yellow house" is no longer just crying, sobbing in anticipation ..
          4. 73bor
            73bor 16 October 2017 19: 05 New
            +1
            And why are these “chews" so attacked? Maybe they have torpedoes on boats? I'm just silent about artillery! And do the guys know the resolution of modern radars? The fact that they reassure themselves, and at the same time scare (it is not clear who only) everything is true!
        2. Topotun
          Topotun 16 October 2017 16: 46 New
          +8
          So they will be beaten out as in the war of three 8-k. With the help of air defense systems. "Wasp" showed itself well ...
        3. Yarhann
          Yarhann 16 October 2017 16: 53 New
          +8
          jamming trifles with anti-aircraft missiles - cheap and cheerful
          1. sergevonsohrn
            sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 12: 54 New
            +2
            the marine "shell" will do just fine with this!
        4. The comment was deleted.
        5. NIKNN
          NIKNN 16 October 2017 18: 42 New
          +6
          Quote: Zibelew
          30 mm bulb?

          They actually have offensive weapons
          120-mm ATGM "Bassoon"
          130-mm ATGM "Barrier-VK" (only project 58155)
          Well, so scary ???
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 00 New
            +9
            Is this trough jet propelled? recourse
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 October 2017 19: 21 New
              +8
              Quote: Partyzan
              Is this trough jet propelled?

              You don’t really laugh there, or they will even swim to your shores. repeat That's it. belay
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 24 New
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                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                You don’t really laugh there, or they will even swim to your shores.

                we have the Belarusian sea - a closed water area, will not swim
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 16 October 2017 19: 31 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Partyzan
                  closed water area, do not swim

                  And they will jump over. They are able. Wait. tongue
                  1. Partyzan
                    Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 51 New
                    10
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    And they will jump over. They are able. Wait.

                    and then we’ll put a rake
          2. 73bor
            73bor 16 October 2017 22: 34 New
            +1
            I'm afraid, I'm afraid! Is browning in a boat just not to shoot?
          3. sergevonsohrn
            sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 12: 56 New
            +2
            yeahhhhh! awesome power .....
        6. alexmach
          alexmach 16 October 2017 19: 02 New
          +1
          Although if it works, and they come closer, then what will they cover? 30 mm bulb?

          The birds are there. In principle, if they come close, they can inflict damage.

          I feel sorry for these boats and anti-ship missiles

          then you need something cheap like Hermes for the little things. Or adjustable cannon shells.
        7. Serg koma
          Serg koma 16 October 2017 19: 34 New
          +3
          But I would like to see such a "fight" drinks ) - Another joke from the "brothers" good
      2. Berber
        Berber 16 October 2017 16: 49 New
        +8
        As far as I remember then, the converted seiner was sunk, and the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".
        1. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 16 October 2017 16: 53 New
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          Quote: BerBer
          As far as I remember then, the re-equipped seiner was sunk,

          - Everything-everything is subject to modernization !!!
          1. Berber
            Berber 16 October 2017 16: 57 New
            +7
            I like this fleet. good
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 October 2017 04: 07 New
              +9
              Such a fleet needs the appropriate “vodka”. A basin with 40 degrees and - Earth goodbye! Good luck! good drinks
        2. Smog
          Smog 16 October 2017 18: 08 New
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          Quote: BerBer
          the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".

          Let them risk their health.


          So for a reminder .....
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 October 2017 21: 34 New
            +8
            Quote: Smog
            Quote: BerBer
            the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".

            Let them risk their health.


            So for a reminder .....

            Here is another thing found !! lol lol good good good

      3. Baloo
        Baloo 16 October 2017 18: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: iConst
        Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.

        How many miles safety zone? 30 miles, then fire without warning as in 2008. There were 5 boats, but how many returned?
        The brave captain of banderlogs needs to carefully study the history of the Russian fleet, otherwise it will stick up and remain horns and legs. The bear is not a baboon, he won’t jump, he’ll break everything.
      4. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 16 October 2017 21: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: iConst
        Quote: cniza
        “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
        - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


        Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
        Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.

        not a jackal, but ... donkey !!! lol lol lol
    2. Pirogov
      Pirogov 16 October 2017 16: 41 New
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      Quote: cniza
      Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.

      What do you want for twenty Admirals, six boats, that’s what drives fu.flo.
      1. sergevonsohrn
        sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 13: 02 New
        +3
        that's for sure! they have, they say, even the admiral commands a six-boat boat !!!
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 16 October 2017 16: 48 New
      24
      Ukrainians, why do you smoke so hard that it smacks you so much for children. request Well it’s necessary to carry such nonsense fool
      1. iConst
        iConst 16 October 2017 16: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: 79807420129
        carry nonsense

    4. svp67
      svp67 16 October 2017 17: 00 New
      11
      Quote: cniza
      jackals have tactics of jackals.

      Even here they took it from the Germans, “wolf packs” of “children of Pope Doenitz”
      1. Lganhi
        Lganhi 16 October 2017 17: 06 New
        +2
        They have no brains to come up with something themselves. And we still called such brothers. Ugh!
    5. Galan
      Galan 16 October 2017 17: 16 New
      +2
      And what tactics can a commander with that surname Regul-Ragul have. Again zapadentsy flat command.
    6. Cutter
      Cutter 16 October 2017 17: 36 New
      +8
      I understood everything, I did not understand one thing: how are they going to fight ??? Come here, sick here ... WHAT A MOSCOW FLEET, UNDERSTANDINGS, W ... AND NEVER FRIED on a baking sheet ??????? Sick people, you feel sorry, ENOUGH to follow instructions from behind the "sea", I recommend: "think about yourself ..."
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 16 October 2017 18: 04 New
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        Quote: Cutter
        I understood everything, I did not understand one thing: how are they going to fight ???

        watch the teachings
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 16 October 2017 18: 58 New
          +6
          I’ll come, I will punish for jokes and humor ... hi good good drinks
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 03 New
            +9
            Quote: Cutter
            I’ll come, I will punish for jokes and humor ... hi good good drinks

            only a 400 gram mug, remember aluminum? drinks laughing
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 October 2017 04: 15 New
              +9
              Sanya, Volodya I welcome hi Here is the musical accompaniment for the cultural and entertainment program.
              good drinks
        2. sergevonsohrn
          sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 13: 12 New
          +3
          Bravo! "sea battle" is something! accurate illustration of the current "ukroflot"!
    7. antivirus
      antivirus 16 October 2017 17: 38 New
      +1
      CHE LAUGH THAT OVER.
      and you. Glory to the heroes, it would be better if they took the experience of the Ytalian swimmers (supposedly in Sevastopol, the battleship was blown up when ---
      it takes a long time to learn the underwater art and do not drink chorilas all the years ...
      1. Catherine II
        Catherine II 16 October 2017 22: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: antivirus
        it takes a long time to learn the underwater art and not to drink chorilas all years ..

        801-th separate detachment of the fight against submarine sabotage forces and means of the Ukrainian Navy. The former place of deployment is Sevastopol, the current is Nikolaev;
        The 73th center of naval special operations of the Ukrainian Navy, since 2004, has been deployed in Ochakov, Mykolaiv region. Prior to this, the 17-I separate Special-Purpose Brigade was located on Pervomaisky Island (military unit A 1594). In its composition 4 detachment:
        the rest is Nikolaev.
        1. sergevonsohrn
          sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 13: 15 New
          +2
          Well, the famous names of banderlog masaki ....
  2. Anarchist
    Anarchist 16 October 2017 16: 36 New
    19
    Throw in a six, They certainly can. Nobody forbids them. That's just the result is a foregone conclusion. Fate - fish feed ...
    1. Komsomol
      Komsomol 16 October 2017 16: 42 New
      +5
      In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 16 October 2017 16: 44 New
        18
        Well, not on a boat to rush into a battle against frigates?
        1. iConst
          iConst 16 October 2017 16: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: Anarchist
          Well, not on a boat the battle against frigates rush?

          It’s necessary to sneak up on the inflatable submarine.
          A new word is the conversion production of air mattresses. smile
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 16 October 2017 16: 52 New
            +6
            It’s necessary to sneak up on the inflatable submarine.


            stealth ruber marin. that you all call some kind of communist names. We must already write in American style.

          2. Anarchist
            Anarchist 16 October 2017 16: 53 New
            21
            Inflatable fleet?
            They have an inflatable fleet, and economics, politics ...
            The whole country was fooled.
            '' inflatable Ukraine! ''
          3. Berber
            Berber 16 October 2017 16: 59 New
            +1
            By the way, it’s cheaper and the result will be the same.
          4. Akaki Akakevich
            Akaki Akakevich 16 October 2017 17: 29 New
            +1
            on an underwater mattress
        2. Komsomol
          Komsomol 16 October 2017 16: 51 New
          +7
          You can and so-
          But ............ 21st century ... Thing your pound ... wink hi hi hi
        3. KCA
          KCA 16 October 2017 17: 14 New
          +3
          Why not? If the CPV stands - a formidable force, it will pierce through Moscow :-)
          1. Akaki Akakevich
            Akaki Akakevich 16 October 2017 17: 33 New
            +4
            formidable power svidomogodebila
          2. novel66
            novel66 16 October 2017 18: 39 New
            +3
            but I’m also not funny - the ships are not armored, 30 mm - and through!
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 16 New
              +6
              Quote: novel xnumx
              ships are not armored, 30 mm - and through!

              under the waterline?
              1. novel66
                novel66 16 October 2017 19: 41 New
                +2
                and in any place - is there fuel and explosive there?
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 54 New
                  +6
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  and anywhere -

                  and from what distance?
            2. sergevonsohrn
              sergevonsohrn 17 October 2017 13: 18 New
              +3
              it’s you who confused ours with the Americans!
              1. novel66
                novel66 17 October 2017 13: 51 New
                +3
                But, like, are we all in armor? lol
            3. Mih1974
              Mih1974 17 October 2017 19: 14 New
              0
              So here it is not a matter of armor, but of service (as expected) on our ships. good And if some “adversary” is swimming too close to us (yes yes it’s swimming tongue ) should - warning him at the rate, so that success "changes his mind. And if he doesn’t change his mind, then - their boats are not made of battleship armor and the A-192" Armat "with 130 mm of their" armored kettle "is like cardboard. bully
              1. novel66
                novel66 18 October 2017 07: 20 New
                +3
                and if there are a lot of them? all must be weighed in time, otherwise they will swim (they will swim lol )
      2. iConst
        iConst 16 October 2017 16: 46 New
        +6
        Quote: Komsomol
        In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink

        A-8 - by! smile
        G-6 - hit! sad
      3. Nurtai
        Nurtai 16 October 2017 17: 15 New
        +1
        Yeah, the radars were canceled, the observers too, no one sees these boats. Although the Egyptians drowned the Israeli destroyer with two boats
        1. siemens7774
          siemens7774 16 October 2017 17: 28 New
          +1
          Nurtay You confuse missile boats armed with P-15 missiles with PTRK. And these are two big differences
      4. BMP-2
        BMP-2 16 October 2017 18: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Komsomol
        In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink

        Wow ... In modern combat, the answer can fly so worthy that the fish can remain hungry. laughing
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 17 October 2017 19: 16 New
          +1
          lol No, I would say - the fish will have a "well-fried" food. tongue
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 18 October 2017 02: 46 New
            0
            I'm afraid that THEY will make some victorious epos out of this. Something like "Cool Roasted Rooster: Secrets of Getting Out of the Water Dry on the Final Journey" laughing
  3. Fitter65
    Fitter65 16 October 2017 16: 38 New
    +3
    Judging by such a statement, reality is poorly friends there, and the higher the official’s rank, the less relevant he is to reality ...
  4. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 16 October 2017 16: 39 New
    +9
    "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

    - Hurry up! - whispered Balaganov, yanking Panikovsky's hand. “So I go in from the left side, and you go into the right.” Only livelier!
    “I am on the left,” the violator of the convention cowardly said.
    - Good, good, you are on the left. I push it in the left side, no, in the right, and you press on the left.
    - Why on the left?
    - Here's another ... Well, on the right! He says, “Bullies,” and you say, “Who is the bully?”
    “No, you answer first.”
    - Good! I’ll tell Bender! Go-go! So you are on the left! ..
    And the valiant sons of Lieutenant Schmidt, desperately shaking, approached Alexander Ivanovich.
  5. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 October 2017 16: 39 New
    +5
    Do not be fooled.
    Much more and much less.
  6. XXXIII
    XXXIII 16 October 2017 16: 40 New
    +3
    That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now ..... wassat
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 17 October 2017 04: 33 New
      +9
      Vladimir, welcome hi
      That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now .....

      Here below, on the news line, there was just an article about the MRK "Gadfly" with the updated BIUS "Bagira". What do you think will happen if there is a fight?
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 17 October 2017 09: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Svarog51
        Vladimir, welcome hi
        That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now .....

        Here below, on the news line, there was just an article about the MRK "Gadfly" with the updated BIUS "Bagira". What do you think will happen if there is a fight?

        Hello Svarog! There, apparently, river-type artillery boats, what can they do against MRCs request !!! It is hard to imagine, but some tried to crank it out, the story for them ended sadly ..... drinks
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 17 October 2017 10: 15 New
          +8
          That is what it means to pose the question correctly, now not only am I an amateur, but other participants know the opinion of professionals. good I also wanted to ask, there’s a round about something in the article about the "Gadgets" in the ship’s photo, right above the tail number on the deck. What is this? Share if in the know? recourse
          R.S. If anything, my name is Sergey hi drinks
          1. XXXIII
            XXXIII 17 October 2017 10: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Svarog51
            R.S. If anything, my name is Sergey
            drinks
            Serega is - Osa-m ship’s anti-aircraft missile system

            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 October 2017 10: 49 New
              +8
              Here again, a huge benefit from you, and from me a little bit, for what pushed. At first I thought it was some kind of platform with which the six-barreled anti-aircraft gun was dismantled. And that’s how it looks - he moved forward, flopped and hid again. Wow! good drinks Volodya, don’t swear, I’ll ask stupid questions. I only saw the ships in pictures and on TV, but here first-hand infa. soldier drinks
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 17 October 2017 11: 31 New
                +2
                Yes, what kind of sailor I am, I studied for the CCM collector and I did not finish the 3rd year, the country said go earn money, and study will wait (the collapse of the USSR) laughing.... But at the drawing lessons it was very interesting how the ships are going to .... good
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 October 2017 12: 08 New
                  +8
                  And the CCM is what? I only heard about Candidates for Masters of Sports, but they obviously are not suitable. lol
                  1. XXXIII
                    XXXIII 17 October 2017 12: 37 New
                    +2
                    GMS Collector Responsibilities:
                    - Assembly of hulls of metal ships
                    - Work with drawings .... yes
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 October 2017 13: 13 New
                      +8
                      Shipbuilder is a very worthy profession. good In modern times, probably not at the culman, but working at the computer? I have something else - electrical schematic diagrams and a soldering iron. Signalman I. Happened and fun fell - on the roofs as Carlson climb during the installation of antenna mast devices. good
                      1. XXXIII
                        XXXIII 17 October 2017 13: 47 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Signalman I. It happened and fun fell - on the roofs like Carlson
                        good Developers, designers are not sitting on a computer; it’s purely in the workshop that they assemble cases according to the drawings .... hi
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 October 2017 14: 03 New
                      +8
                      Kms it is purely in the shop assemble the housing according to the drawings ....

                      Yeah! I heard one story that during the construction of the Great Eastern, one of the workers was walled up by accident. You have a dangerous job. That's how you will round someone during a spill of alcohol, and he will be offended. And kirdyk will come.
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya 16 October 2017 16: 43 New
    +6
    "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

    Of course, they can rush, only where will they bounce? Immediately to the bottom? recourse
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 17 October 2017 05: 22 New
      +9
      Marinochka Vitalievna, welcome love love love
      This is how the exercises are held with jokes and jokes:
      - And now the Nord-Nord-Ost blew!
      good love
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 17 October 2017 06: 21 New
        +4
        Sergey, hello there! love
        love
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 17 October 2017 06: 43 New
          +8
          Marinochka Vitalievna love Thanks for the warm wish. You can present people with a good mood for the whole day. good love love love repeat
  8. izya top
    izya top 16 October 2017 16: 44 New
    +5
    Wolf pack "means that we can take the six on the enemy’s larger ship
    so come on poppy crack, act fellow
  9. Alex777
    Alex777 16 October 2017 16: 44 New
    +3
    The leadership of the Ukrainian Navy has developed a tactic of attacking Russian ships: this is the “Wolf Pack” or “Mosquito Fleet” - when combat boats attack from several sides.

    Eccentrics we are eccentrics ... bully
    And the fact that a large ship has a range of weapons many times more forgotten? After all, you don’t have to go far: 5 Georgian boats have already tried to attack ... hi
    1. Topotun
      Topotun 16 October 2017 16: 48 New
      +2
      So another question is how are they going to stoke our fleet? 30 mm guns? Or using anti-tank systems?
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 October 2017 16: 45 New
    0
    So Russia is massively building a "mosquito fleet" - small missile ships.
    And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.
    And how to use them against someone’s fleet? The only way.
    1. 75 hammer
      75 hammer 16 October 2017 16: 55 New
      +3
      The construction of the Leader is scheduled to begin in 2025. However, metal cutting for eight destroyers of project 23560 will begin next year
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 16 October 2017 22: 44 New
        +1
        It means that by that time they are going to test most of the weapons and systems on Nakhimov. A repetition of the story of Gorshkov is unacceptable.
    2. polev66
      polev66 16 October 2017 17: 04 New
      +2
      a rocket will cost more than a ukrokater ... easier to shoot from 6 trunks
    3. Yarhann
      Yarhann 16 October 2017 17: 13 New
      +4
      in the Russian Federation, the systematic replacement of the entire ancient fleet is that small ships are being built more than frigates and destroyers, this is obvious - there should be more of them. .
      And the fact that the Russian RTOs have on board quite powerful armament as for the RTOs, a complex of caliber for 8m cells of an airborne radar and a sonar system is quite enough to fulfill the task assigned to them in the coastal zone of inland seas. But these tasks can not be solved with the help of border boats that try to make the so-called Yalot of Ukraine. And if we are talking about a confrontation in neutral waters with ship warrants, then an order headed by a flagship as well as Peter the Great or a cruiser like Moscow should act as a flagship - the flagship’s task is to flash the entire district and look for other warrants with their own powerful radar and radar reconnaissance a the task of kids of different ranks is to be squires - that is, floating launchers for these goals as a flagship and to search for an underwater enemy. That is, if you do not twist, but the order is built from small-tonnage ships and not from Cruisers or heavy cruisers alone. It is clear that for the far sea zone the order will consist of the flagship of a couple of destroyers and several corvettes, as well as several submarines plus a pack of support vessels. But to work at a small distance orders can be built around the same destroyers, and at the pickup there will be frigates of corvettes and RTOs - it all depends on the goal. The main thing is to create an order from what.
      And as for the mosquito fleet that the Russian Federation is building it here, you are right that border boats and generally various small ships for various security forces are under construction a lot - but this has nothing to do with the fleet.
    4. Taoist
      Taoist 16 October 2017 17: 23 New
      +2
      A bit not all the same ... our Mosquito fleet is armed with anti-ship missiles - and no matter how cool we are here, "ahead of the rest" - so yes "mosquitoes" but with a very long sting ... and Ukrainians can boarding at best ...
    5. Partyzan
      Partyzan 16 October 2017 19: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And how to use them against someone’s fleet?

      rockets hi
    6. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 16 October 2017 19: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So Russia is massively building a "mosquito fleet" - small missile ships.
      And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.

      Now, I hope enough? What is the complete aircraft carrier?
    7. Fitter65
      Fitter65 17 October 2017 01: 05 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.

      And now that Israel has begun to replenish its fleet with nuclear submarines, missile cruisers and aircraft carriers? ..
    8. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 39 New
      0
      Most gracious! Compare the small missile ship in armament, energy equipment, electronic warfare, RT and other with the artillery armored boat of the Petyunchik Potroshenko shipyard. Yes, the "Lenin smithy" before the war, monitors like "Zheleznyakov" and "Shilka", built armored boats with stronger weapons than that junk than today is satisfied with the "fishing smithy"!
    9. Mih1974
      Mih1974 17 October 2017 19: 33 New
      0
      Compare

      ukrovermaht fishing boats negative
      Yes, our one boat is able to disperse their entire "fleet" if only there was an order and permission to open fire!
  11. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 16 October 2017 16: 47 New
    +2
    Artillery boat "Skadovsk" ... it's time to stop playing Stalker ...
  12. midshipman
    midshipman 16 October 2017 16: 51 New
    +5
    Information should be noted. I recall the attacks of US ships by small enemy ships stuffed with a lot of explosives. Then, after the first warning, they were destroyed at a distance of two cable ones. And Ukrainians are insidious people, they can use suicide bombers. Therefore, on the Black Sea, special tactics are required to combat small ships of Ukrainians.
    It should be taken into account that we will no longer be a friendly people, thanks to the Drunk. Remember the initial period of the Second World War. Our commanders believed that the Germans from the workers would not fight against the Russian workers. But it turned out the opposite. The Nazis did not surrender. The propaganda of fascism has done its job. The fascists need only be destroyed, and the laws of the Russian Federation should provide for the option of not taking prisoners. Who raised a hand to the Russian Federation is subject to destruction. This is the only way to live in peace. I have the honor.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 34 New
      +1
      Ukrainians "suicide bombers" ????? great joke !!!!!
  13. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 16 October 2017 16: 54 New
    +2
    In reply: The construction of the Leader is scheduled to begin in 2025. However, metal cutting for eight destroyers of project 23560 will begin next year.
  14. japs
    japs 16 October 2017 16: 59 New
    +6
    The author forgot about six inflatable boats donated by mattresses a year ago.
    This is probably the "jackal flock" of the Navy 404.
  15. reservist
    reservist 16 October 2017 17: 00 New
    +3
    "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

    Ukrainians took tactics of behavior from the fable:
    "Then the hare whistled - the codla ran
    and the lion of such "zvizdyl" poked ...
    and further folklore.
    But the HARE and with Kodla (with the USA and without) anyway HARE belay

    1. reservist
      reservist 16 October 2017 17: 04 New
      +5
      To date, the Ukrainian Navy is excessively militarized.
      Why do they need eleven admirals for six boats? belay
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 16 October 2017 20: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: reservist
        Why do they need eleven admirals for six boats?

        They still have rafts and a submarine, though it is welded to the pier so that it doesn’t drown, but it is. laughing
      2. LeonidL
        LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 31 New
        +1
        Did you ask the question “for the sake of Armenia”? ... Only they can give an answer, not a single person in a sober mind can answer!
  16. polev66
    polev66 16 October 2017 17: 01 New
    +3
    here they are ... even there are no censored words)))) and where will they take the boats? and scumbags wanting to die in the sea? dreamers, and the admirals will command these boats?)))
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 16 October 2017 18: 10 New
      +2
      You asked reasonable questions: 1 where there are so many boats, 2 “admirals” need 12 boats, and the corvettes will be frightened and raise a white flag themselves? 2 who will command these “heroes”?
      Any cadet of the VMU will be able to compare the strength of 30 mm "farts" and 76 mm machine guns, and even more so 100 mm.
      As I. A. Krylov said: "Ay, Pug! Know it is strong,
      What barks at the Elephant! "
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 29 New
        +1
        Palundra guys! What are these farts? On ships there are anti-ship missiles and anti-aircraft missile systems, and both of them work perfectly for mosquitoes and not very mosquito mosquitoes - revive the memory of the war 08-08-08. There, one small missile ship dispersed a similar "wolf" flock of moses and mongrels. The BDK escorted by him did not even uncovered their guns! And then are the wolf packs going to be made up of gutted "armored boats"? Admiral Doenitz laughs from hell!
  17. reservist
    reservist 16 October 2017 17: 06 New
    +4
    The entire border fleet of Ukraine withdrew from the base and went into the open sea
    look for the ancient border of Ukraine laughing
  18. Akaki Akakevich
    Akaki Akakevich 16 October 2017 17: 08 New
    +6
    this is a method of psychological warfare prohibited by all international conventions - they want the damned matskals to die of laughter
  19. Lganhi
    Lganhi 16 October 2017 17: 08 New
    +1
    For 11 vessels in the Ukrainian fleet, 13 admirals and generals wassat . And these ships are not aircraft carriers or cruisers, but inflatable boats and boats.
    1. Nurtai
      Nurtai 16 October 2017 17: 17 New
      +1
      And what happened to that Russian Ukrainian captain who did not give up in Crimea? And what about his ship?
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 25 New
        +1
        Shook it, shook it in a puddle of a lake and sank quietly ...
  20. K-50
    K-50 16 October 2017 17: 08 New
    +6
    The six boats that make up the Wolf Pack

    I yelled !!! laughing
    While this "wolf pack", or rather a flock of sheep will reach the distance of opening fire, they will have time to sink, revive them and drown them again with a rail on their feet two hundred times.
    D.B. S. Lavrov. (S)
  21. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 16 October 2017 17: 16 New
    11
    I recalled a life incident, maybe not quite in the subject, but indicative. There was an article in the magazine "Soviet Warrior" at the end of 89, the beginning of the 90th of the last century. As my classmate, Serge Malov in Africa fought off the Ethiopian “mosquito fleet”. The task was to evacuate our diplomats and their families from Ethiopia torn by civil war in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen on a hospital ship. Serega, being an assistant and commander of the BS-2 armored boat in one person, was to ensure the inviolability of this hospital ship from one of the belligerents. As soon as the hospital ship left the port, the local high-speed "junks" with the AGS on board came to intercept and began to "beat" the ship. The first "junior" was bombarded with 76 mm guns, and the second (since it was following the wake of the boat) was blown up with a depth bomb. Who is watching films about the war saw them explode, what column of water they raise. Here's a pillar of junk in the molecule. The rest immediately hunt was repelled to fight with the Soviet sailors. Serge then the only one in our entire issue received a military medal. Maybe of course it wasn’t like that, I apologize, thirty years have almost passed.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 16 October 2017 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      Serge then the only one in our entire issue received a military medal. Maybe of course it wasn’t like that, I apologize, thirty years have almost passed.

      For the health of your friend and the Russian Navy drinks Three cheers!
    2. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 24 New
      +1
      Something similar was in Aden ...
  22. Taoist
    Taoist 16 October 2017 17: 21 New
    +2
    Squealing ... elementary arithmetic. AK 176 - the average rate of fire 60 / min, guaranteed range of destruction 10 km. These boats have a maximum firing range of about 5 km. Those. from the moment the shelling of the 1 installation begins, they must pass at least another 5 km. - This is a minimum of 5 minutes. For a guaranteed defeat of one such boat, 3-5 hits of 76 mm are enough. Even taking into account the time to transfer fire from target to target, each of the targets will be fired for 30-40 seconds - i.e. 30-40 shells will be fired on it. Modern automated guidance systems at such distances guarantee defeat with the very first shots ...
    How many ukrov have such "mosquitoes"? ;-)
  23. jovanni
    jovanni 16 October 2017 17: 30 New
    +3
    Why a mosquito, what of a boat - then, you can create a fleet of “heinous” on the same pennies - from motorboats! Inflatable ...
  24. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 16 October 2017 17: 32 New
    0
    Among the rabid and this nonsense "with a bang" will be accepted.
  25. Monarchist
    Monarchist 16 October 2017 17: 41 New
    0
    If I am not mistaken: Doenitz was the first to use the "wolf packs" so that Pan Regula decided to repeat Karl Doenitz.
    "The Ukrainian Navy has an intention to return the strategic gas platforms that have departed to Russia together with the Crimea, including using combat boats," in other words, a pirate raid. Once the pirates were liable to use high-speed vessels: to attack the "merchants" the insert failures to tick easier. Do they remember how the pirates finished? It was only Jack Sparrow who could plunder so famously and cleaned from the noose, but in life: often “decorated” there are no ships of his own
  26. Galleon
    Galleon 16 October 2017 17: 44 New
    +3
    It is enough for an army madman to make natural selection during military operations to put his head out of the trench. The situation with naval idiots is somewhat more complicated.
  27. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 16 October 2017 17: 45 New
    +3
    ... AK-630 rapid-fire ship’s gun is designed to protect the ship from aircraft and enemy light ships. ... The rate of installation reaches 4000-5000 thousand rounds per minute ...
    Oh, “dill” would not have started better, otherwise such devices will profusely destroy your “jackal flock”!
  28. seacap
    seacap 16 October 2017 18: 07 New
    +5
    The Georgians, under the command of the instructors of the most invincible army in the world (from the word not a single victory in any war) already tried in the 8th year, it turned out unsuccessfully, then the Russian fleet was still in a deplorable state, especially the Black Sea, I don’t think that, all the more, now it’s a promising idea. We’d have already started faster, and to take Crimea and go to Moscow, otherwise they promise, it will become boring already.
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 16 October 2017 18: 29 New
    +3
    In the exercises, Ukrainian boats attacked the conditional "aggressor".

    I wonder how much this trough of hits will withstand?

    I think even one is enough and not direct on board but just next
  30. shark
    shark 16 October 2017 18: 34 New
    +3
    Tired ukrobred!
  31. Egorovich
    Egorovich 16 October 2017 18: 54 New
    +5
    Dreams Dreams!? Not all dreams lead to a good end. And Ukrainians just do not lead.
  32. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 16 October 2017 19: 10 New
    0
    "A wolf pack means we can take the six of us to the larger ship of the enemy."
    And what if there are two or three "big ships of the enemy"? Where will the brave hohlomoreman rush? Overboard or captured?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 20 New
      +1
      Want to know what will happen? Remember 08-08-08, when a Russian missile boat dispersed a flock of Georgian moseks by a wolf. By the way, those pugs were much more solid than the "armored boats" Petyunchik Potroshenko!
  33. Baloo
    Baloo 16 October 2017 20: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: K-50
    The six boats that make up the Wolf Pack

    I yelled !!! laughing
    While this "wolf pack", or rather a flock of sheep will reach the distance of opening fire, they will have time to sink, revive them and drown them again with a rail on their feet two hundred times.
    D.B. S. Lavrov. (S)

    Why sheep? Maybe wild boars?
  34. Disorder
    Disorder 16 October 2017 20: 40 New
    0
    They rave about the realities of World War II.
  35. faterdom
    faterdom 16 October 2017 21: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: Balu
    There were 5 boats, but how many returned?

    There were 5 ducks, and this naval commander offers to attack with 6 (!!!) boats, here is the know-how, here it is, strategic thinking!
  36. Catherine II
    Catherine II 16 October 2017 22: 40 New
    +1
    I hope it was just entertaining PR ... not like a sober calculation.
    Given that now there are no borders on the sea (Crimea is not recognized) collisions in narrow sections are quite possible. The same Ukrainian platforms that were simply abandoned, and now suddenly become the number one goal. It’s strange what they thought before .. Having removed their head, they don’t cry through their hair ..
    forces to attack are not enough .. yes and it’s not reasonable that’s all.
    The inland sea is shot through .. Any area is shot through. Crimea is rather vulnerable from the northern mainland, Ukraine has a vulnerable coast of Odessa, Mykolayiv and Kherson regions (and the Sea of ​​Azov).
    For any purpose, a cluster of 6 boats in any case will attract attention-- will inevitably be spotted.
    And why artillery boats suddenly became applicable as an attack? Their purpose is different, and the armament does not match.
    Although maybe Ukrainians, too, someone writes HPP ....
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 18 New
      +1
      They have a green general there, chief of the Navy, what can I say?
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 17 October 2017 11: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: LeonidL
        They have a green general there, chief of the Navy, what can I say?

        They can still install tanks on rafts and pull along the coast. Do not underestimate the insidiousness of banderlog.
  37. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 16 October 2017 23: 05 New
    +9
    Ukrainian fleet replenished only with boats

    Well, what are they unhappy with? Well what else boats.
    Judging by the state of affairs in Ukraine, their fleet should not be replenished with more than air mattresses.
    And here the whole (!) Boats! Not half, not just a trough without a deck .. There, probably there are even engines? laughing
    So let yourself rejoice, exercise and dream.
    Well and then .. Maybe it’s my personal feeling, but the phrase “Wolf Pack”, performed by Ukrainian warriors, more likely resembles a shoblu of unwashed mongrels.
  38. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 October 2017 00: 31 New
    0
    Nothing new, just forgotten old. By the way, Iran is actively developing a "mosquito fleet" as an alternative to the US Navy.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 17 New
      +1
      He can develop and develop, but there is no sense in such development and is not expected. By the way, Iran has poorly poorly missile boats, and not artillery light armored boats created by the chocolate admiral. They generally have such pukalki that it’s not worth seriously talking.
  39. LeonidL
    LeonidL 17 October 2017 05: 14 New
    +1
    A pug is a pug, it’s stupid, absurd, cowardly, but with ambition ... The pug’s stupidity is especially shocking - a “wolf” pack of mosque with a weak artillery weapon will not have time to come up to a cannon shot as it is simply destroyed by anti-ship missiles or air defense systems. These marine pugs did not even bother to study the experience of 08-08-08 when a flock of Georgian, by the way, a much stronger, better armed and more experienced mosque was broken at a distance of 20-30 km, and its leaders found the last mooring at the bottom. Oh, pugs, pugs ... but what wretched to take from them? They are even led by a green general!
    1. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 17 October 2017 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: LeonidL
      a flock of Georgian, by the way, much stronger, better armed
      Well, what kind of power was it interesting? The only ships with anti-ship missiles were sunk by paratroopers in the port.
  40. Nemesis
    Nemesis 17 October 2017 07: 18 New
    +1
    This once again suggests that Russia in no case should give a single ship from the Crimea, especially since most of them were built in the USSR, with the money of Russia, and not subsidized Ukraine. It’s time for Russia to think about the repair and modernization of those former Ukrainian ships that still make sense to repair and modernize, after which they will be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, and the rest will be dismantled for scrap. First of all, it is necessary to repair the BDK ,, Konstantin Olshansky '', especially since the same type of BDK of project 775 are in service with the Russian fleets.
  41. sad1940
    sad1940 17 October 2017 10: 55 New
    0
    Ukrainians completely brewed, it seems the "roof" leaked completely. To what extent people can degrade!