Ukraine wants six boats to defeat Russia

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The leadership of the Ukrainian Navy has developed tactics for attacking Russian ships: it is a Wolf Pack or a Mosquito navy"- when combat boats attack from several sides.

"Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship
- leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.



It is noted that this tactic is not an invention of Ukrainian sailors. A large ship will not be able to hold at gunpoint and fire at several targets simultaneously. The six boats that make up the “Wolf Pack” are also called the “Mosquito Fleet”, as it is unobtrusive.

Ukraine wants six boats to defeat Russia


At the exercises, Ukrainian boats attacked the conditional “aggressor”. The commander of the ship "Cherkasy" Yuri Fedash said that Ukraine needs the constant presence of ships with missile weapons. It is noted that Ukraine has already received several new combat boats, and soon there will be three or four more.

At the same time, in the TSN plot, the military admits that the Ukrainian Navy has an intention to return the strategic gas platforms, which were sent to Russia along with the Crimea, including with the use of combat boats.

In late September, Vice-Admiral Igor Voronchenko, commander of the Ukrainian Navy, said that his country's fleet needed anti-submarine ships to protect against Russian submarines. In August, Vice-Admiral of the Ukrainian Navy, Sergey Haiduk, announced that due to the lack of state maritime policy, the Ukrainian fleet could disappear soon. According to Haiduk, the development of the Russian Black Sea Fleet cannot be compared with the state of the Navy.

From 2014 to 2017, two new frigates with cruise missiles Caliber, four submarines with cruise missiles, coastal missile systems arrived on the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.
- He complained, adding that the Ukrainian fleet is replenished only with boats.

In April, the captain of the first rank of the Ukrainian Navy, Yevgeny Lupakov, said that if Ukraine had submarines, it would have allegedly easily defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet, in response, State Duma deputy Ruslan Balbek advised Kiev to refrain from joking about the Black Sea Fleet, warning that the Ukrainian decision A submarine heading to the shores of the Crimea would be for them a “one-way hike,” reports "Sight"

Today, the Navy has 11 ships. According to experts, the frigate Hetman Sagaidachny, the Priluki missile boat, the Genichesk and Cherkasy minesweepers, the Svatovo and Kirovograd landing ships, the Vinnitsa corvette and the Skadovsk artillery boat are part of the Ukrainian Navy. . Plus, those same armored.
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    1. +16
      October 16 2017
      “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
      - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


      Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
      1. +33
        October 16 2017
        Quote: cniza
        “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
        - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


        Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
        Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.
        1. +18
          October 16 2017
          It's a pity for these boats and anti-ship missiles, the AK176 is enough. There should be 20-30 against one Russian guard, in order to have a chance to die with dignity. Although if it works, and they come closer, then what will they cover? 30 mm bulb? Current if a kamikaze boat with 5 tons of TNT. The flock of mosquitoes generally will not sink, but will cause Russian ships to itch.
          1. +11
            October 16 2017
            "Curious" tactics. It is one thing to attack a merchant and unarmed ship and another to a well-armed warship. What about quick-fire weapons?
            1. +18
              October 16 2017
              It is they who cheer themselves up, and so understand that without options.
              1. +27
                October 16 2017
                It’s they who cheer themselves up
                they have the most powerful in the world raft
            2. +5
              October 16 2017
              "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship
              - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.

              What is the "wolf pack" has long been known. But will ukroflot have enough greyhound and desire not to go back?
              By and large, there is nothing new in this idle talk for cheap PR. If this "sea wolf Regula" will chat differently, then it will simply be "trampled", and who will need it then? And then he will have to row to Europe to work as a gardener or rigger somewhere in Marseille or Gdansk.
              1. +5
                October 16 2017
                I think with wolves and mosquitoes - they got excited: they mixed up mosquitoes with pugs! laughing
                Well, judge for yourself: what's the point of calling the flea circus the Wolf Pack? request fool laughing
                1. +3
                  October 17 2017
                  yes, a clear insult to the “wolves” .... but in fact, the tactics of the “wolf packs” were invented by the notorious Hitler Admiral Doenitz, as applied to submarines. Raguli, apparently, are rather weak in history ....
                  1. 0
                    October 17 2017
                    So they don’t need a story: they invented a new one for themselves! And in key moments - coinciding with the history of Nazi Germany. Well, I hope that everything will be the same for them! laughing
            3. +5
              October 16 2017
              Do you think "it" bothered to get acquainted with the performance characteristics? According to these admirals, the "yellow house" is no longer just crying, sobbing in anticipation ..
            4. +1
              October 16 2017
              And why are these “chews" so attacked? Maybe they have torpedoes on boats? I'm just silent about artillery! And do the guys know the resolution of modern radars? The fact that they reassure themselves, and at the same time scare (it is not clear who only) everything is true!
          2. +8
            October 16 2017
            So they will be beaten out as in the war of three 8-k. With the help of air defense systems. "Wasp" showed itself well ...
          3. +8
            October 16 2017
            jamming trifles with anti-aircraft missiles - cheap and cheerful
            1. +2
              October 17 2017
              the marine "shell" will do just fine with this!
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          5. +6
            October 16 2017
            Quote: Zibelew
            30 mm bulb?

            They actually have offensive weapons
            120-mm ATGM "Bassoon"
            130-mm ATGM "Barrier-VK" (only project 58155)
            Well, so scary ???
            1. +9
              October 16 2017
              Is this trough jet propelled? recourse
              1. +8
                October 16 2017
                Quote: Partyzan
                Is this trough jet propelled?

                You don’t really laugh there, or they will even swim to your shores. feel That's it. belay
                1. +11
                  October 16 2017
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  You don’t really laugh there, or they will even swim to your shores.

                  we have the Belarusian sea - a closed water area, will not swim
                  1. +6
                    October 16 2017
                    Quote: Partyzan
                    closed water area, do not swim

                    And they will jump over. They are able. Wait. tongue
                    1. +10
                      October 16 2017
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      And they will jump over. They are able. Wait.

                      and then we’ll put a rake
            2. +1
              October 16 2017
              I'm afraid, I'm afraid! Is browning in a boat just not to shoot?
            3. +2
              October 17 2017
              yeahhhhh! awesome power .....
          6. +1
            October 16 2017
            Although if it works, and they come closer, then what will they cover? 30 mm bulb?

            The birds are there. In principle, if they come close, they can inflict damage.

            I feel sorry for these boats and anti-ship missiles

            then you need something cheap like Hermes for the little things. Or adjustable cannon shells.
          7. +3
            October 16 2017
            But I would like to see such a "fight" drinks ) - Another joke from the "brothers" good
        2. +8
          October 16 2017
          As far as I remember then, the converted seiner was sunk, and the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".
          1. +17
            October 16 2017
            Quote: BerBer
            As far as I remember then, the re-equipped seiner was sunk,

            - Everything-everything is subject to modernization !!!
            1. +7
              October 16 2017
              I like this fleet. good
              1. +9
                October 17 2017
                Such a fleet needs the appropriate “vodka”. A basin with 40 degrees and - Earth goodbye! Good luck! good drinks
          2. +13
            October 16 2017
            Quote: BerBer
            the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".

            Let them risk their health.


            So for a reminder .....
            1. +8
              October 16 2017
              Quote: Smog
              Quote: BerBer
              the boats ran back. There is probably an irresistible desire to repeat the "feat".

              Let them risk their health.


              So for a reminder .....

              Here is another thing found !! lol lol good good good

        3. +6
          October 16 2017
          Quote: iConst
          Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.

          How many miles safety zone? 30 miles, then fire without warning as in 2008. There were 5 boats, but how many returned?
          The brave captain of banderlogs needs to carefully study the history of the Russian fleet, otherwise it will stick up and remain horns and legs. The bear is not a baboon, he won’t jump, he’ll break everything.
        4. +5
          October 16 2017
          Quote: iConst
          Quote: cniza
          “Wolf Pack means we can take the six of us on the enemy’s larger ship
          - leads TSN the words of the commander of the armored boat Alexander Regula.


          Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.
          Actually, a jackal flock of Georgians at 8-8-8 and used. It turned out badly.

          not a jackal, but ... donkey !!! lol lol lol
      2. +11
        October 16 2017
        Quote: cniza
        Can you get close to him? jackals and jackal tactics.

        What do you want for twenty Admirals, six boats, that’s what drives fu.flo.
        1. +3
          October 17 2017
          that's for sure! they have, they say, even the admiral commands a six-boat boat !!!
      3. +24
        October 16 2017
        Ukrainians, why do you smoke so hard that it smacks you so much for children. request Well it’s necessary to carry such nonsense fool
        1. +6
          October 16 2017
          Quote: 79807420129
          carry nonsense

      4. +11
        October 16 2017
        Quote: cniza
        jackals have tactics of jackals.

        Even here they took it from the Germans, “wolf packs” of “children of Pope Doenitz”
        1. +2
          October 16 2017
          They have no brains to come up with something themselves. And we still called such brothers. Ugh!
      5. +2
        October 16 2017
        And what tactics can a commander with that surname Regul-Ragul have. Again zapadentsy flat command.
      6. +8
        October 16 2017
        I understood everything, I did not understand one thing: how are they going to fight ??? Come here, sick here ... WHAT A MOSCOW FLEET, UNDERSTANDINGS, W ... AND NEVER FRIED on a baking sheet ??????? Sick people, you feel sorry, ENOUGH to follow instructions from behind the "sea", I recommend: "think about yourself ..."
        1. +17
          October 16 2017
          Quote: Cutter
          I understood everything, I did not understand one thing: how are they going to fight ???

          watch the teachings
          1. +6
            October 16 2017
            I’ll come, I will punish for jokes and humor ... hi good good drinks
            1. +9
              October 16 2017
              Quote: Cutter
              I’ll come, I will punish for jokes and humor ... hi good good drinks

              only a 400 gram mug, remember aluminum? drinks laughing
              1. +9
                October 17 2017
                Sanya, Volodya I welcome hi Here is the musical accompaniment for the cultural and entertainment program.
                good drinks
          2. +3
            October 17 2017
            Bravo! "sea battle" is something! accurate illustration of the current "ukroflot"!
      7. +1
        October 16 2017
        CHE LAUGH THAT OVER.
        and you. Glory to the heroes, it would be better if they took the experience of the Ytalian swimmers (supposedly in Sevastopol, the battleship was blown up when ---
        it takes a long time to learn the underwater art and do not drink chorilas all the years ...
        1. +2
          October 16 2017
          Quote: antivirus
          it takes a long time to learn the underwater art and not to drink chorilas all years ..

          801-th separate detachment of the fight against submarine sabotage forces and means of the Ukrainian Navy. The former place of deployment is Sevastopol, the current is Nikolaev;
          The 73th center of naval special operations of the Ukrainian Navy, since 2004, has been deployed in Ochakov, Mykolaiv region. Prior to this, the 17-I separate Special-Purpose Brigade was located on Pervomaisky Island (military unit A 1594). In its composition 4 detachment:
          the rest is Nikolaev.
          1. +2
            October 17 2017
            Well, the famous names of banderlog masaki ....
    2. +19
      October 16 2017
      Throw in a six, They certainly can. Nobody forbids them. That's just the result is a foregone conclusion. Fate - fish feed ...
      1. +6
        October 16 2017
        In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink
        1. +18
          October 16 2017
          Well, not on a boat to rush into a battle against frigates?
          1. +5
            October 16 2017
            Quote: Anarchist
            Well, not on a boat the battle against frigates rush?

            It’s necessary to sneak up on the inflatable submarine.
            A new word is the conversion production of air mattresses. smile
            1. +6
              October 16 2017
              It’s necessary to sneak up on the inflatable submarine.


              stealth ruber marin. that you all call some kind of communist names. We must already write in American style.

            2. +21
              October 16 2017
              Inflatable fleet?
              They have an inflatable fleet, and economics, politics ...
              The whole country was fooled.
              '' inflatable Ukraine! ''
            3. +1
              October 16 2017
              By the way, it’s cheaper and the result will be the same.
            4. +3
              October 16 2017
              on an underwater mattress
          2. +8
            October 16 2017
            You can and so-
            But ............ 21st century ... Thing your pound ... wink hi hi hi
          3. KCA
            +4
            October 16 2017
            Why not? If the CPV stands - a formidable force, it will pierce through Moscow :-)
            1. +4
              October 16 2017
              formidable power svidomogodebila
            2. +4
              October 16 2017
              but I’m also not funny - the ships are not armored, 30 mm - and through!
              1. +6
                October 16 2017
                Quote: novel xnumx
                ships are not armored, 30 mm - and through!

                under the waterline?
                1. +2
                  October 16 2017
                  and in any place - is there fuel and explosive there?
                  1. +6
                    October 16 2017
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    and anywhere -

                    and from what distance?
              2. +4
                October 17 2017
                it’s you who confused ours with the Americans!
                1. +3
                  October 17 2017
                  But, like, are we all in armor? lol
              3. +1
                October 17 2017
                So here it is not a matter of armor, but of service (as expected) on our ships. good And if some “adversary” is swimming too close to us (yes yes it’s swimming tongue ) should - warning him at the rate, so that success "changes his mind. And if he doesn’t change his mind, then - their boats are not made of battleship armor and the A-192" Armat "with 130 mm of their" armored kettle "is like cardboard. bully
                1. +3
                  October 18 2017
                  and if there are a lot of them? all must be weighed in time, otherwise they will swim (they will swim lol )
        2. +7
          October 16 2017
          Quote: Komsomol
          In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink

          A-8 - by! smile
          G-6 - hit! sad
        3. +2
          October 16 2017
          Yeah, the radars were canceled, the observers too, no one sees these boats. Although the Egyptians drowned the Israeli destroyer with two boats
          1. +2
            October 16 2017
            Nurtay You confuse missile boats armed with P-15 missiles with PTRK. And these are two big differences
        4. +4
          October 16 2017
          Quote: Komsomol
          In the Sea battle, how to stand out ... You will not guess ... wink

          Wow ... In modern combat, the answer can fly so worthy that the fish can remain hungry. laughing
          1. +2
            October 17 2017
            lol No, I would say - the fish will have a "well-fried" food. tongue
            1. +1
              October 18 2017
              I'm afraid that THEY will make some victorious epos out of this. Something like "Cool Roasted Rooster: Secrets of Getting Out of the Water Dry on the Final Journey" laughing
    3. +4
      October 16 2017
      Judging by such a statement, reality is poorly friends there, and the higher the official’s rank, the less relevant he is to reality ...
    4. +10
      October 16 2017
      "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

      - Hurry up! - whispered Balaganov, yanking Panikovsky's hand. “So I go in from the left side, and you go into the right.” Only livelier!
      “I am on the left,” the violator of the convention cowardly said.
      - Good, good, you are on the left. I push it in the left side, no, in the right, and you press on the left.
      - Why on the left?
      - Here's another ... Well, on the right! He says, “Bullies,” and you say, “Who is the bully?”
      “No, you answer first.”
      - Good! I’ll tell Bender! Go-go! So you are on the left! ..
      And the valiant sons of Lieutenant Schmidt, desperately shaking, approached Alexander Ivanovich.
    5. +5
      October 16 2017
      Do not be fooled.
      Much more and much less.
    6. +3
      October 16 2017
      That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now ..... wassat
      1. +9
        October 17 2017
        Vladimir, welcome hi
        That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now .....

        Here below, on the news line, there was just an article about the MRK "Gadfly" with the updated BIUS "Bagira". What do you think will happen if there is a fight?
        1. +2
          October 17 2017
          Quote: Svarog51
          Vladimir, welcome hi
          That’s not the task, we also have a mosquito fleet and not 4 boats, what to do now .....

          Here below, on the news line, there was just an article about the MRK "Gadfly" with the updated BIUS "Bagira". What do you think will happen if there is a fight?

          Hello Svarog! There, apparently, river-type artillery boats, what can they do against MRCs request !!! It is hard to imagine, but some tried to crank it out, the story for them ended sadly ..... drinks
          1. +8
            October 17 2017
            That is what it means to pose the question correctly, now not only am I an amateur, but other participants know the opinion of professionals. good I also wanted to ask, there’s a round about something in the article about the "Gadgets" in the ship’s photo, right above the tail number on the deck. What is this? Share if in the know? recourse
            R.S. If anything, my name is Sergey hi drinks
            1. +2
              October 17 2017
              Quote: Svarog51
              R.S. If anything, my name is Sergey
              drinks
              Serega is - Osa-m ship’s anti-aircraft missile system

              1. +8
                October 17 2017
                Here again, a huge benefit from you, and from me a little bit, for what pushed. At first I thought it was some kind of platform with which the six-barreled anti-aircraft gun was dismantled. And that’s how it looks - he moved forward, flopped and hid again. Wow! good drinks Volodya, don’t swear, I’ll ask stupid questions. I only saw the ships in pictures and on TV, but here first-hand infa. soldier drinks
                1. +2
                  October 17 2017
                  Yes, what kind of sailor I am, I studied for the CCM collector and I did not finish the 3rd year, the country said go earn money, and study will wait (the collapse of the USSR) laughing.... But at the drawing lessons it was very interesting how the ships are going to .... good
                  1. +8
                    October 17 2017
                    And the CCM is what? I only heard about Candidates for Masters of Sports, but they obviously are not suitable. lol
                    1. +2
                      October 17 2017
                      GMS Collector Responsibilities:
                      - Assembly of hulls of metal ships
                      - Work with drawings .... Yes
                      1. +8
                        October 17 2017
                        Shipbuilder is a very worthy profession. good In modern times, probably not at the culman, but working at the computer? I have something else - electrical schematic diagrams and a soldering iron. Signalman I. Happened and fun fell - on the roofs as Carlson climb during the installation of antenna mast devices. good
                        1. +2
                          October 17 2017
                          Quote: Svarog51
                          Signalman I. It happened and fun fell - on the roofs like Carlson
                          good Developers, designers are not sitting on a computer; it’s purely in the workshop that they assemble cases according to the drawings .... hi
                      2. +8
                        October 17 2017
                        Kms it is purely in the shop assemble the housing according to the drawings ....

                        Yeah! I heard one story that during the construction of the Great Eastern, one of the workers was walled up by accident. You have a dangerous job. That's how you will round someone during a spill of alcohol, and he will be offended. And kirdyk will come.
    7. +6
      October 16 2017
      "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

      Of course, they can rush, only where will they bounce? Immediately to the bottom? recourse
      1. +9
        October 17 2017
        Marinochka Vitalievna, welcome love love love
        This is how the exercises are held with jokes and jokes:
        - And now the Nord-Nord-Ost blew!
        good love
        1. +4
          October 17 2017
          Sergey, hello there! love
          love
          1. +8
            October 17 2017
            Marinochka Vitalievna love Thanks for the warm wish. You can present people with a good mood for the whole day. good love love love feel
    8. +5
      October 16 2017
      Wolf pack "means that we can take the six on the enemy’s larger ship
      so come on poppy crack, act fellow
    9. +3
      October 16 2017
      The leadership of the Ukrainian Navy has developed a tactic of attacking Russian ships: this is the “Wolf Pack” or “Mosquito Fleet” - when combat boats attack from several sides.

      Eccentrics we are eccentrics ... bully
      And the fact that a large ship has a range of weapons many times more forgotten? After all, you don’t have to go far: 5 Georgian boats have already tried to attack ... hi
      1. +2
        October 16 2017
        So another question is how are they going to stoke our fleet? 30 mm guns? Or using anti-tank systems?
    10. 0
      October 16 2017
      So Russia is massively building a "mosquito fleet" - small missile ships.
      And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.
      And how to use them against someone’s fleet? The only way.
      1. +3
        October 16 2017
        The construction of the Leader is scheduled to begin in 2025. However, metal cutting for eight destroyers of project 23560 will begin next year
        1. +1
          October 16 2017
          It means that by that time they are going to test most of the weapons and systems on Nakhimov. A repetition of the story of Gorshkov is unacceptable.
      2. +2
        October 16 2017
        a rocket will cost more than a ukrokater ... easier to shoot from 6 trunks
      3. +4
        October 16 2017
        in the Russian Federation, the systematic replacement of the entire ancient fleet is that small ships are being built more than frigates and destroyers, this is obvious - there should be more of them. .
        And the fact that the Russian RTOs have on board quite powerful armament as for the RTOs, a complex of caliber for 8m cells of an airborne radar and a sonar system is quite enough to fulfill the task assigned to them in the coastal zone of inland seas. But these tasks can not be solved with the help of border boats that try to make the so-called Yalot of Ukraine. And if we are talking about a confrontation in neutral waters with ship warrants, then an order headed by a flagship as well as Peter the Great or a cruiser like Moscow should act as a flagship - the flagship’s task is to flash the entire district and look for other warrants with their own powerful radar and radar reconnaissance a the task of kids of different ranks is to be squires - that is, floating launchers for these goals as a flagship and to search for an underwater enemy. That is, if you do not twist, but the order is built from small-tonnage ships and not from Cruisers or heavy cruisers alone. It is clear that for the far sea zone the order will consist of the flagship of a couple of destroyers and several corvettes, as well as several submarines plus a pack of support vessels. But to work at a small distance orders can be built around the same destroyers, and at the pickup there will be frigates of corvettes and RTOs - it all depends on the goal. The main thing is to create an order from what.
        And as for the mosquito fleet that the Russian Federation is building it here, you are right that border boats and generally various small ships for various security forces are under construction a lot - but this has nothing to do with the fleet.
      4. +2
        October 16 2017
        A bit not all the same ... our Mosquito fleet is armed with anti-ship missiles - and no matter how cool we are here, "ahead of the rest" - so yes "mosquitoes" but with a very long sting ... and Ukrainians can boarding at best ...
      5. +5
        October 16 2017
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And how to use them against someone’s fleet?

        rockets hi
      6. +1
        October 16 2017
        Quote: voyaka uh
        So Russia is massively building a "mosquito fleet" - small missile ships.
        And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.

        Now, I hope enough? What is the complete aircraft carrier?
      7. 0
        October 17 2017
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And Israel also had such a period. When there weren’t enough fins.

        And now that Israel has begun to replenish its fleet with nuclear submarines, missile cruisers and aircraft carriers? ..
      8. 0
        October 17 2017
        Most gracious! Compare the small missile ship in armament, energy equipment, electronic warfare, RT and other with the artillery armored boat of the Petyunchik Potroshenko shipyard. Yes, the "Lenin smithy" before the war, monitors like "Zheleznyakov" and "Shilka", built armored boats with stronger weapons than that junk than today is satisfied with the "fishing smithy"!
      9. 0
        October 17 2017
        Compare

        ukrovermaht fishing boats negative
        Yes, our one boat is able to disperse their entire "fleet" if only there was an order and permission to open fire!
    11. +2
      October 16 2017
      Artillery boat "Skadovsk" ... it's time to stop playing Stalker ...
    12. +5
      October 16 2017
      Information should be noted. I recall the attacks of US ships by small enemy ships stuffed with a lot of explosives. Then, after the first warning, they were destroyed at a distance of two cable ones. And Ukrainians are insidious people, they can use suicide bombers. Therefore, on the Black Sea, special tactics are required to combat small ships of Ukrainians.
      It should be taken into account that we will no longer be a friendly people, thanks to the Drunk. Remember the initial period of the Second World War. Our commanders believed that the Germans from the workers would not fight against the Russian workers. But it turned out the opposite. The Nazis did not surrender. The propaganda of fascism has done its job. The fascists need only be destroyed, and the laws of the Russian Federation should provide for the option of not taking prisoners. Who raised a hand to the Russian Federation is subject to destruction. This is the only way to live in peace. I have the honor.
      1. +1
        October 17 2017
        Ukrainians "suicide bombers" ????? great joke !!!!!
    13. +2
      October 16 2017
      In reply: The construction of the Leader is scheduled to begin in 2025. However, metal cutting for eight destroyers of project 23560 will begin next year.
    14. +6
      October 16 2017
      The author forgot about six inflatable boats donated by mattresses a year ago.
      This is probably the "jackal flock" of the Navy 404.
    15. +3
      October 16 2017
      "Wolf Pack" means that we can six of us rush to a larger enemy ship

      Ukrainians took tactics of behavior from the fable:
      "Then the hare whistled - the codla ran
      and the lion of such "zvizdyl" poked ...
      and further folklore.
      But the HARE and with Kodla (with the USA and without) anyway HARE belay

      1. +5
        October 16 2017
        To date, the Ukrainian Navy is excessively militarized.
        Why do they need eleven admirals for six boats? belay
        1. +1
          October 16 2017
          Quote: reservist
          Why do they need eleven admirals for six boats?

          They still have rafts and a submarine, though it is welded to the pier so that it doesn’t drown, but it is. laughing
        2. +1
          October 17 2017
          Did you ask the question “for the sake of Armenia”? ... Only they can give an answer, not a single person in a sober mind can answer!
    16. +3
      October 16 2017
      here they are ... even there are no censored words)))) and where will they take the boats? and scumbags wanting to die in the sea? dreamers, and the admirals will command these boats?)))
      1. +2
        October 16 2017
        You asked reasonable questions: 1 where there are so many boats, 2 “admirals” need 12 boats, and the corvettes will be frightened and raise a white flag themselves? 2 who will command these “heroes”?
        Any cadet of the VMU will be able to compare the strength of 30 mm "farts" and 76 mm machine guns, and even more so 100 mm.
        As I. A. Krylov said: "Ay, Pug! Know it is strong,
        What barks at the Elephant! "
        1. +1
          October 17 2017
          Palundra guys! What are these farts? On ships there are anti-ship missiles and anti-aircraft missile systems, and both of them work perfectly for mosquitoes and not very mosquito mosquitoes - revive the memory of the war 08-08-08. There, one small missile ship dispersed a similar "wolf" flock of moses and mongrels. The BDK escorted by him did not even uncovered their guns! And then are the wolf packs going to be made up of gutted "armored boats"? Admiral Doenitz laughs from hell!
    17. +4
      October 16 2017
      The entire border fleet of Ukraine withdrew from the base and went into the open sea
      look for the ancient border of Ukraine laughing
    18. +6
      October 16 2017
      this is a method of psychological warfare prohibited by all international conventions - they want the damned matskals to die of laughter
    19. +1
      October 16 2017
      For 11 vessels in the Ukrainian fleet, 13 admirals and generals wassat . And these ships are not aircraft carriers or cruisers, but inflatable boats and boats.
      1. +1
        October 16 2017
        And what happened to that Russian Ukrainian captain who did not give up in Crimea? And what about his ship?
        1. +1
          October 17 2017
          Shook it, shook it in a puddle of a lake and sank quietly ...
    20. +6
      October 16 2017
      The six boats that make up the Wolf Pack

      I yelled !!! laughing
      While this "wolf pack", or rather a flock of sheep will reach the distance of opening fire, they will have time to sink, revive them and drown them again with a rail on their feet two hundred times.
      D.B. S. Lavrov. (S)
    21. +11
      October 16 2017
      I recalled a life incident, maybe not quite in the subject, but indicative. There was an article in the magazine "Soviet Warrior" at the end of 89, the beginning of the 90th of the last century. As my classmate, Serge Malov in Africa fought off the Ethiopian “mosquito fleet”. The task was to evacuate our diplomats and their families from Ethiopia torn by civil war in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen on a hospital ship. Serega, being an assistant and commander of the BS-2 armored boat in one person, was to ensure the inviolability of this hospital ship from one of the belligerents. As soon as the hospital ship left the port, the local high-speed "junks" with the AGS on board came to intercept and began to "beat" the ship. The first "junior" was bombarded with 76 mm guns, and the second (since it was following the wake of the boat) was blown up with a depth bomb. Who is watching films about the war saw them explode, what column of water they raise. Here's a pillar of junk in the molecule. The rest immediately hunt was repelled to fight with the Soviet sailors. Serge then the only one in our entire issue received a military medal. Maybe of course it wasn’t like that, I apologize, thirty years have almost passed.
      1. +1
        October 16 2017
        Quote: Sasha_Sar
        Serge then the only one in our entire issue received a military medal. Maybe of course it wasn’t like that, I apologize, thirty years have almost passed.

        For the health of your friend and the Russian Navy drinks Three cheers!
      2. +1
        October 17 2017
        Something similar was in Aden ...
    22. +2
      October 16 2017
      Squealing ... elementary arithmetic. AK 176 - the average rate of fire 60 / min, guaranteed range of destruction 10 km. These boats have a maximum firing range of about 5 km. Those. from the moment the shelling of the 1 installation begins, they must pass at least another 5 km. - This is a minimum of 5 minutes. For a guaranteed defeat of one such boat, 3-5 hits of 76 mm are enough. Even taking into account the time to transfer fire from target to target, each of the targets will be fired for 30-40 seconds - i.e. 30-40 shells will be fired on it. Modern automated guidance systems at such distances guarantee defeat with the very first shots ...
      How many ukrov have such "mosquitoes"? ;-)
    23. +3
      October 16 2017
      Why a mosquito, what of a boat - then, you can create a fleet of “heinous” on the same pennies - from motorboats! Inflatable ...
    24. 0
      October 16 2017
      Among the rabid and this nonsense "with a bang" will be accepted.
    25. 0
      October 16 2017
      If I am not mistaken: Doenitz was the first to use the "wolf packs" so that Pan Regula decided to repeat Karl Doenitz.
      "The Ukrainian Navy has an intention to return the strategic gas platforms that have departed to Russia together with the Crimea, including using combat boats," in other words, a pirate raid. Once the pirates were liable to use high-speed vessels: to attack the "merchants" the insert failures to tick easier. Do they remember how the pirates finished? It was only Jack Sparrow who could plunder so famously and cleaned from the noose, but in life: often “decorated” there are no ships of his own
    26. +3
      October 16 2017
      It is enough for an army madman to make natural selection during military operations to put his head out of the trench. The situation with naval idiots is somewhat more complicated.
    27. +3
      October 16 2017
      ... AK-630 rapid-fire ship’s gun is designed to protect the ship from aircraft and enemy light ships. ... The rate of installation reaches 4000-5000 thousand rounds per minute ...
      Oh, “dill” would not have started better, otherwise such devices will profusely destroy your “jackal flock”!
    28. +5
      October 16 2017
      The Georgians, under the command of the instructors of the most invincible army in the world (from the word not a single victory in any war) already tried in the 8th year, it turned out unsuccessfully, then the Russian fleet was still in a deplorable state, especially the Black Sea, I don’t think that, all the more, now it’s a promising idea. We’d have already started faster, and to take Crimea and go to Moscow, otherwise they promise, it will become boring already.
    29. +3
      October 16 2017
      In the exercises, Ukrainian boats attacked the conditional "aggressor".

      I wonder how much this trough of hits will withstand?

      I think even one is enough and not direct on board but just next
    30. +3
      October 16 2017
      Tired ukrobred!
    31. +5
      October 16 2017
      Dreams Dreams!? Not all dreams lead to a good end. And Ukrainians just do not lead.
    32. 0
      October 16 2017
      "A wolf pack means we can take the six of us to the larger ship of the enemy."
      And what if there are two or three "big ships of the enemy"? Where will the brave hohlomoreman rush? Overboard or captured?
      1. +1
        October 17 2017
        Want to know what will happen? Remember 08-08-08, when a Russian missile boat dispersed a flock of Georgian moseks by a wolf. By the way, those pugs were much more solid than the "armored boats" Petyunchik Potroshenko!
    33. +2
      October 16 2017
      Quote: K-50
      The six boats that make up the Wolf Pack

      I yelled !!! laughing
      While this "wolf pack", or rather a flock of sheep will reach the distance of opening fire, they will have time to sink, revive them and drown them again with a rail on their feet two hundred times.
      D.B. S. Lavrov. (S)

      Why sheep? Maybe wild boars?
    34. 0
      October 16 2017
      They rave about the realities of World War II.
    35. +2
      October 16 2017
      Quote: Balu
      There were 5 boats, but how many returned?

      There were 5 ducks, and this naval commander offers to attack with 6 (!!!) boats, here is the know-how, here it is, strategic thinking!
    36. +1
      October 16 2017
      I hope it was just entertaining PR ... not like a sober calculation.
      Given that now there are no borders on the sea (Crimea is not recognized) collisions in narrow sections are quite possible. The same Ukrainian platforms that were simply abandoned, and now suddenly become the number one goal. It’s strange what they thought before .. Having removed their head, they don’t cry through their hair ..
      forces to attack are not enough .. yes and it’s not reasonable that’s all.
      The inland sea is shot through .. Any area is shot through. Crimea is rather vulnerable from the northern mainland, Ukraine has a vulnerable coast of Odessa, Mykolayiv and Kherson regions (and the Sea of ​​Azov).
      For any purpose, a cluster of 6 boats in any case will attract attention-- will inevitably be spotted.
      And why artillery boats suddenly became applicable as an attack? Their purpose is different, and the armament does not match.
      Although maybe Ukrainians, too, someone writes HPP ....
      1. +1
        October 17 2017
        They have a green general there, chief of the Navy, what can I say?
        1. +1
          October 17 2017
          Quote: LeonidL
          They have a green general there, chief of the Navy, what can I say?

          They can still install tanks on rafts and pull along the coast. Do not underestimate the insidiousness of banderlog.
    37. +9
      October 16 2017
      Ukrainian fleet replenished only with boats

      Well, what are they unhappy with? Well what else boats.
      Judging by the state of affairs in Ukraine, their fleet should not be replenished with more than air mattresses.
      And here the whole (!) Boats! Not half, not just a trough without a deck .. There, probably there are even engines? laughing
      So let yourself rejoice, exercise and dream.
      Well and then .. Maybe it’s my personal feeling, but the phrase “Wolf Pack”, performed by Ukrainian warriors, more likely resembles a shoblu of unwashed mongrels.
    38. 0
      October 17 2017
      Nothing new, just forgotten old. By the way, Iran is actively developing a "mosquito fleet" as an alternative to the US Navy.
      1. +1
        October 17 2017
        He can develop and develop, but there is no sense in such development and is not expected. By the way, Iran has poorly poorly missile boats, and not artillery light armored boats created by the chocolate admiral. They generally have such pukalki that it’s not worth seriously talking.
    39. +1
      October 17 2017
      A pug is a pug, it’s stupid, absurd, cowardly, but with ambition ... The pug’s stupidity is especially shocking - a “wolf” pack of mosque with a weak artillery weapon will not have time to come up to a cannon shot as it is simply destroyed by anti-ship missiles or air defense systems. These marine pugs did not even bother to study the experience of 08-08-08 when a flock of Georgian, by the way, a much stronger, better armed and more experienced mosque was broken at a distance of 20-30 km, and its leaders found the last mooring at the bottom. Oh, pugs, pugs ... but what wretched to take from them? They are even led by a green general!
      1. 0
        October 17 2017
        Quote: LeonidL
        a flock of Georgian, by the way, much stronger, better armed
        Well, what kind of power was it interesting? The only ships with anti-ship missiles were sunk by paratroopers in the port.
    40. +1
      October 17 2017
      This once again suggests that Russia in no case should give a single ship from the Crimea, especially since most of them were built in the USSR, with the money of Russia, and not subsidized Ukraine. It’s time for Russia to think about the repair and modernization of those former Ukrainian ships that still make sense to repair and modernize, after which they will be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, and the rest will be dismantled for scrap. First of all, it is necessary to repair the BDK ,, Konstantin Olshansky '', especially since the same type of BDK of project 775 are in service with the Russian fleets.
    41. 0
      October 17 2017
      Ukrainians completely brewed, it seems the "roof" leaked completely. To what extent people can degrade!

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