The first clashes between the Iraqi army and the Kurds in Kirkuk

Between the Iraqi troops that entered the province of Kirkuk and the Kurdish units of the Peshmerga, clashes occurred, RIA News message channel Al-Sumaria.

Clashes occurred between the armed forces of Iraq and the Peshmerga in the industrial region of the southern part of the province,

said a military source channel.

According to media reports, the Kurds managed to set fire to four vehicles of the Iraqi army.

At the same time, the Peshmerga was ordered not to attack first.

President Barzani ordered all units of the Peshmerga not to initiate clashes, but if the paramilitaries opened fire, the Peshmerga was given the green light to use all the possibilities to resist them,

the adviser to Kurdish President Hemin Hawrami said.

On Monday night, Iraqi Prime Minister and Commander-in-Chief Heydar al-Abadi ordered security officials to ensure security at military bases and government facilities in Kirkuk province. He also asked the military to avoid confrontation with the Peshmerga.

Earlier, Baghdad accused the Kurds of using non-state formations for the defense of Kirkuk, in particular, the Turkish Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), calling it a declaration of war.

The leadership of the Kurdish region has denied the charges.

Comments

[Komsomol]

That's it, the process has begun ... Take a walk, flaw, divide the oil.

[Logall]

It will be bad if the Kurds decide to unite in one single state ... Although I doubt it is possible ...

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: Logall

It will be bad if the Kurds decide to unite in one single state ...

Who will feel bad? The Kurds have no chance against Turkey, Iran and Iraq. And if in Syria they decide to restrain them, the game for them will end even with the support of the United States.

[cniza]

The Americans are pleased with their goal to continue the conflict on B.V. and who doesn’t care with whom.

[Jedi]

Victor, welcome! It is not for nothing that the United States made a bet on the Kurds when they realized that it was a fried smell with ISIS.

[cniza]

Greetings Max! , and deeply it doesn’t matter who will fight, if only they would fight.

[Jedi]

It is what it is. The main thing is that the war goes on without their direct participation. And who is fighting is not just the tenth, but the twentieth.

[Warrior with machine gun]

it’s impossible without direct participation, since the wards can’t do anything without help, and striped ears stick out where they would like to not shine))

[Jedi]

I did not quite express myself exactly, but you correctly specified about the striped ears. As the saying goes, "take the shepherd from the flocks and get a flock of sheep."

[cniza]

And they like to cut “rams” ...

[Jedi]

They like to cut everyone and everything. Yes, the trouble is that it doesn’t always work.

[cniza]

Quote: Jedi

They like to cut everyone and everything. Yes, the trouble is that it doesn’t always work.

Opportunities do not always coincide with desires, but I really want to ... so the United States will continue to push everyone and everything on B.V. with their foreheads.

[pvv113]

Divide and conquer - the main principle of the United States.
Greetings, Victor!

[cniza]

Greetings Vladimir! , do not just divide and conquer, but create chaos and control it.

[pvv113]

This is so; peace and tranquility do not suit them. But the chaos, controlled by them, allows you to feel like a fish in water.

[cniza]

And it's not bad to make money on it.

[pvv113]

The states have learned well how to make money on someone else’s misfortune, it was another World War II that showed

[Normal ok]

Quote: cniza

The Americans are pleased with their goal to continue the conflict on B.V. and who doesn’t care with whom.

God grant that there is always conflict. While they knead each other, we are calmer.

[hrych]

Kurds will have a hard time against Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran. They will be pushed into the mountains, but the Russian Federation’s Dzerzor’s oil fields must be received. It is necessary to recoup the company and the restoration of Syria requires funds. And the US should get a shish.

[weary]

And how many more Syrians must die to

It’s necessary to recoup the company

[hrych]

In order for the ethnos to survive in the future, for this the fighters pay life now. Economic reserves will feed the ethnos as well, therefore they sacrifice themselves not for oil, but also for the ethnos. The outlook is not bad for there is a superethnos that took his kind of custody. Many tribes owe him their existence ...

[weary]

To survive the ethnos

That is, the Sunni Arabs must die so that the Alvites live. Bravo Russia, the Sunnis will not forget this.

[St Petrov]

Bravo Russia, the Sunnis will not forget this.

you on their behalf decided to threaten the Russian Federation or what? and how are you there? the sofa is still off under you?

Russia has already shown who is who in the SAR. Who was against - he spread his brains on the sand, and who has not had time yet - there is still time.

So go threaten the Dutch, Brussels and the French. Russia has come east. And the east understood everything. The whole path to the Kremlin is trodden from the east.

[weary]

decided to threaten

Where is the threat?

[Warrior with machine gun]

the British crown, the half of the planet can remember a lot of unpleasant things, but you don’t forget anything, you live and do not cough, and you don’t forget the old habits, so you should definitely not take on the role of the righteous.

[Pivot]

Yes, Turkey can cry bitterly.

[BAI]

It will be bad if the Kurds decide to unite in one single state ...

Why is it bad? Aslamov from the “KP” law - Russia needs to have Kurds in its allies and help them.

[talgat kaumbaev]

Nothing will come of it.
They will teach a little by common efforts (Loyal / Shiites / Turks) and, in fact, quite naturally.
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In Kirkuk itself, local and Peshmerga veterans occupy positions along with Peshmerga fighters and PKK guerrillas.
PKK fighters create a line of defense in urban development.

[Blombir]

Quote: Komsomol

That's it, the process has begun ... Take a walk, flaw, divide the oil.

The second part of the Marlezon ballet began. The massacre was blessed by mattress humanists.

[Artyushka Telepathy]

nishtyak))) is now no longer up to ISIS pushed their foreheads and then butt and then the forester will come and all in one slipper)))

[Viktor.12.71]

Divide and conquer today.

[talgat kaumbaev]

Because of oil and all graters / wars.
The Gold Division of the Iraqi Army enter Kirkuk.

[XII legion]

The first clashes between the Iraqi army and the Kurds in Kirkuk

Good morning hachi

[Berber]

Americans fueled Kurdish ambitions. The Kurds do not know that they will be thrown later.

[talgat kaumbaev]

Rather the opposite.
A US-led international coalition has warned that any military force that attempts to attack Kirkuk will be attacked by coalition forces.
According to the head of the Kirkuk Provincial Council Security Committee, Azad Jabbar, the coalition has notified the Iraqi armed forces.
The Security Council of Iraqi Kurdistan said on Saturday that Shi’d Hashd al-Shaabi militias supported by Baghdad are threatening to attack the Kurdish Peshmerga forces south of Kirkuk after midnight.
http://kurdistan.ru/2017/10/15/news30782_CHinovni
k_Koaliciya_preduprezhdaet_protiv_lyubogo_nastupl
eniya_na_Kirkuk.html

[Berber]

For the United States, the result is not important, but the process. The main thing for them is the continuation of the conflict and it does not matter in what form.

[Warrior with machine gun]

they think like all their protégés, it’s probably happened before, but this cannot happen to us))

[private person]

Campaign there without ISIS fun will continue. Rather, the signs of the names of the armed barmaley will be replaced, but the people are the same.

[stolz]

Quote: Komsomol

That's it, the process has begun ...

Now they won’t calm down until the VKS comes and spanks both of them.

[talgat kaumbaev]

VSK is not in the aisles. The only and main strike force is US Air Force.

Iraqi federal police occupy Peshmega Khalid base.

[Mihail55]

Didn’t catch the moment when Assad asked to bring Iraqi troops into his state?

[talgat kaumbaev]

Awoke? Such proposals from Hafezich have long been.
blacks from Anbar province constantly penetrate into the Syrian province of DeZ.
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Peshmerga forces left their positions in Tal-Alvad and Taza-Khurmatu, in the south and west of Kirkuk.

[rocket757]

If you look carefully it turns out cool !!!
The Iraqi authorities are absolutely the creature of the Americans ... Kurdish formations are allies, wards of the same Americans !!!
Suppose for Assad the same us with the allies .... a bummer in full, and the "fire" in the east for the us and the Jews is still NEEDED !!!
It seems that the world will not be there ... for the foreseeable future for sure.

[donavi49]

And long ago, the Iranian proxy, the pro-Iranian government, the hyper-pro-Iranian opposition, the fighting Shiites in all leading roles - became the creature of the Americans?

They balance to get help and equipment already ordered. Yes. But not more.

[voyaka uh]

I agree. After the defeat of ISIS in Iraq, the Shiite government,
closer and closer to Iran, America needs no support.
Not a single concession for oil production, by the way, is Shiites (which the Americans actually
brought to power) they were not given: tenders went to the British and Chinese.
Iraqi Sunnis demand autonomy within Iraq (in the Sunni triangle, whence
ISIS just kicked out).
If the United States ceases to support the Iraqi army, then the Kurds will defeat it like children.

[donavi49]

The Kurds are the army went through the hardest 3 summer war. Motivated army with the spirit of victories. The army is many times superior in manpower and equipment. Even if the United States imposes a ban on the supply of military equipment, this will not help the Kurds. Especially the Kurds do not particularly help now. For Turkey will block any supply - this is understandable. Iran, too - plus Trump himself burned all the bridges with Iran. And Iran has actually imposed a blockade on Kurdistan - closing the border on entry and exit.

[voyaka uh]

So the Kurds have the spirit of victory. They knocked ISIS out of all their
(and neighboring cities) even when the Iraqi army fled from ISIS in a panic.
As soon as the Iraqi army delves into Kurdistan, ISIS in the Sunni
cities where he has widespread support, will again raise his head.
Shiites have to keep garrisons in all cities repelled by ISIS.
It seems to me that the Iraqi army is "dizzy with success."
Maybe they’ll take Kirkuk (where half of the population is Kurds and half are Sunnis),
but I won’t be sure that they won’t hold for a long time.

[talgat kaumbaev]

The spirit of victory drives the Kurds away from the city.
And what about the "heroic" defense ???
Drape from Kirkuk battle heroes.
Roads in the direction of Erbil, blocked by vehicles.

[talgat kaumbaev]

The army may be defeated, but there is still: 1; Iraqi paramilitary federal police (WFTU) 2. Shiite militia of Iraq Hashd al-Shaabi Iranian proxies.
They passed Mosul and their combat experience is huge.
Shiites will win as if Israel did not want this.

[voyaka uh]

Shiite police are thugs without brakes, like ISIS.
If they begin to commit atrocities in the Kurdish territories, as ISIS did, the mood
in the world will jump sharply for the Kurds. And if the States stop helping the Shiites and move
on the side of the Kurds - that's it.
In my opinion, Barazani has good chances for the state. The rest of the Kurds have little chance.

[talgat kaumbaev]

If he had a border with Israel, and so he is in the ring of hostile states.
Kirkuk with a nyafyanka Shiites will be beaten 100%, but they won’t go any further.
The blockade of the Kurds will lead to poverty and the collapse of autonomy.
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Kirkuk. The road is blocked.

[Berber]

There are not many chances for the state. Nearly, access to the sea is needed so that oil does not pump through foreign territory. Now they will impose a blockade on all sides and see what Barzani will sing about. Although, admittedly, the Kurds are sorry. Too soon Barzani began to sing about independence. It was necessary to do this de facto, and then de jure.

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: voyaka uh

If the United States ceases to support the Iraqi army, then the Kurds will defeat it like children.

The Ishilovites defeated the Iraqi army and reached Baghdad. Kurds will face Shiite volunteers from Iran armed to the teeth, there is no doubt about that. But what Turkey will do is interesting to me. The Kurds if the massacre of chances of misery begins.

[voyaka uh]

"The Iraqi army was defeated by the Ishilovites and reached Baghdad" ///

That was until 2014. Then the Americans put a lot of effort into the military training of Shiites,
and they fought back all the cities easily captured by ISIS.
The military backbone of ISIS until 2014 was composed of former Saddam officers,
longed for revenge in any form.

[alcor]

Quote: voyaka uh

I agree. After the defeat of ISIS in Iraq, the Shiite government,
closer and closer to Iran, America needs no support.
Not a single concession for oil production, by the way, is Shiites (which the Americans actually
brought to power) they were not given: tenders went to the British and Chinese.
Iraqi Sunnis demand autonomy within Iraq (in the Sunni triangle, whence
ISIS just kicked out).
If the United States ceases to support the Iraqi army, then the Kurds will defeat it like children.

Therefore, Iraq will seek a strong ally. And the north wind will blow. And it is right.

[voyaka uh]

This is please. Although such allies, to be honest, even
you will not wish the enemy. The Americans took a sip ... if someone else wants ...

[talgat kaumbaev]

Not what north wind will not be, east blows in full.
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1200 PKK fighters arrived to help the Kurds of Kirkuk.
What irony is that part of Iraqi Kurds from the PUK merges Kirkuk, and the eternal enemies of the PKK barzanists come to the aid of the Barzani peshmerga despite the differences of 30 years.

[CooL_SnipeR]

What else should the Kurds do? There is no state, no production, no oil, no work, although I’m not sure that they would not. So they have fun while the states give humanitarian aid and democratic aid

[voyaka uh]

"There is no state, no production, no oil, no work" ////

Iraqi Kurds (Barazani) have everything you listed.

[talgat kaumbaev]

And Iraq has a combat-ready army that defeated blacks (with the active support of the US).
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Koroch: "Everything on Kirkuk / The Iraqi flag flying high in Kirkuk".

[talgat kaumbaev]

They have everything, but now they are asked to share.
Iraqi security forces launched a “major operation” in the Kurdish region of Kirkuk to take control of a strategic military base and oil fields, according to Kurdish and Iraqi officials.

The goal of the offensive at the beginning of Monday was to take control of the Kurdish-controlled K1 air base, west of Kirkuk, Lt. Col. Sal Al-Kinani, the 9th Panzer Division of the Iraqi army, Reuters reported.

According to state television, Iraqi forces took control of “vast areas” in the oil-rich region without any opposition from Kurdish Peshmerga militants.

Earlier, the Kurdistan Security Council stated that Iraqi forces and members of the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), paramilitary groups, mainly consisting of Shiite militias trained by Iran, were moving from Taza, south of Kirkuk, in a "major operation."

"Their intention is to enter the city and take over (and) the K1 base and oil fields"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/iraq...5220
651177.html

[talgat kaumbaev]

The Iraqi army and allies began their advance in Kirkuk, in plans: an air capture of the air base and oil fields.

[donavi49]

Well, so far nothing has begun. The Kurds were politely asked to return back what they had captured during the war years. Kurds began to rest. They are kicked out by force from the territory they seized.

Base K1 captured without a fight.
We have already entered the industrial area of ​​Kirkuk.
Kurdoguber Kirkuk urged the entire male population to defend the city and drove north on his Mercedes, he didn’t.
Barzani issued for his order "Masters of the Multi-Way" - to defend the territories steadily, not to open fire.

As a result, the Iraqi operation is going well so far. Focal resistance is provided mainly by radical cells (forces that are in opposition to Barzani).

[talgat kaumbaev]

Not everything is so obvious.
The Kurds are transferring regular units to the clash area, including, for example, 2 brigades trained and equipped by the Coalition.
List of Kurdish units in the clash area:
70 and 80 brigades
Special unit 1
Gulan special unit 1
Backup unit 1 & 2 (heavily armed brigades)
Special unit 3
Presidential unit
Kirkuk Asaish
Hawler asaish
Sulaimani asaish
Hawler ct unit
Black tiger forces (Heza Rasaka) also known as CTG for Kirkuk
S.F. Zerevani
Kirkuk district police
oil and gas unit
Sulaimani anti riot unit
Hawler primary unit
Shekh jafar commandos unit
Barzan unit
PAK unit (Rojhalat) - Iranian Kurds
HSK unit (Kaka Hama)
Volunteers from Kirkuk, Hawler, Suli, Chamchamal and Halabja.
Kurdistan24 reports 4 destroyed jeeps and 12 killed Shiites.

D-30 Kurds are working on the positions of the shields in Tuz Khurmatu.

[chenia]

Kurds are not our problem. With them in Syria it is necessary to do autonomy (but Assad must control the oil fields).
And the Turks and Iranians will still set Russia up (there is no need to build illusions about the "faithful" allies and there will be no subsequent disappointments).

More in this "tangle" everyone will be interested in Russia's participation.

[rotmistr60]

The Americans achieved their goal (chaos in the region) when they climbed there. The war turned into a permanent state.

[Firework]

it's time to really listen to the opinion of the Kurds

[talgat kaumbaev]

To whom ???
Of course, the conflict has every chance to develop into a full-fledged war.
First, both sides are highly motivated.
Secondly, the prize is very tasty - a fatty piece of oil industry, at least.
Thirdly, almost all regional players are interested in the conflict, Iran, Turkey, Israel, not to mention the United States.
At the same time, the Kurds already have certain advantages. First of all, the unification of previously opposing political groups in the face of an external threat. Even the rkkashniki sent several thousand fighters to defend Kirkuk.
In addition, Erbil may now be trumpeting about the military aggression from Baghdad.
And the Shiites now have a war on two fronts. Merry business.

[rocket757]

The fact that the Iraqi government, as it were, the creation of the Americans ??? - I agree, judging by how events are developing, the Americans here are pretty scared ... b. Sami used to throw everyone !!! and here they can get a similar answer. The question is ... nothing personal is just a business, wards will choose WHERE TO FAVOR.
For the Kurds - it seems to me that this "gin" has already flown out of the bottle !!! Moreover, he is now deceived in his expectations, so very angry !!! armed better than before and motivated by the most - the most !!!
A single or group of countries that can qualify for the role of a JUDGE, PEACEKEEPER, .... in short an AUTHORITY for everyone, is not there !!!
If there is no real SILENCE on all or many problems of the region, and there are MUCH arsonists, there is no need to wait for peace.
Iran is a complex religious and secular education ... one thing can be recognized, society is rather monolithic, motivated and effectively managed. While everything is so, it’s useless to go to them with your own rules and advice .... and an attempt at military aggression will not bring significant dividends (YES), and for many it may end in disaster.

[Livonetc]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is please. Although such allies, to be honest, even
you will not wish the enemy. The Americans took a sip ... if someone else wants ...

Americans sipped their own shit.
Crap buried shed their normal algorithm.
And their preparation is worthless.
This is not my desire to humiliate the army of Iraq.
Practice has shown.
About the north wind is hypothetically possible but absolutely inexpedient.
Now, if the Americans are shedding from Iraq then some sense will appear.

[talgat kaumbaev]

Night attack.

The 16th and 6th Peshmerga brigades of the Patriotic Union left their positions without a fight in Dakuk south of Kirkuk on the orders of the clique of the widow of Talabani.

[talgat kaumbaev]

Kirkuk Airport.

[rruvim]

Kurds deserve their state. At a meeting of leaders in Tehran (1943), this question was an "edge". During the "division" of the Ottoman Empire after the 1st World War, Kurdistan was divided. The USSR at one time supported the Kurds, thanks to him, Kurdish autonomy also appeared. One of the "connected" was even Primakov (in his youth). From Barzani, dates from one plate ate. The formation of an independent Kurdistan is a matter of time. And unlike Russia and Iran, Israel and the United States "saddled" this issue. Although, I repeat, the USSR has done a lot in this direction.

[Runoway]

Quote: hrych

It is necessary to recoup the company and the restoration of Syria requires funds.

Rosneft is already there

[rruvim]

The Kurds (Iraqi) had a real chance to build a combat-ready army when oil was for 100 bucks per barrel.
Instead, they went "all the way": fancy Mercia, palaces, private jets. A "peshmerga" choked on hunger. Still in addition, Barzani and Talabani were at odds with each other because of oil rigs. Then the Turks blocked the “fender”, and oil prices fell. So they remained with the "broken trough" until they "arrived" the Lord from the United States and Israel ....

[talgat kaumbaev]

The Iraqi army, in the course of a military operation against the Kurds in Kirkuk on Monday, took control of a power plant, industrial area, gas processing plant and a number of other facilities in this oil province.

"The control over the gas facility of the Northern Gas Company (NGC), the police center, the Kirkuk power station, and the filter station near the gas facility has been established. Units continue to advance," the Iraqi command said on Facebook.
The military also claimed that they had recaptured the industrial area, a suburb of Kirkuk Baiji, the village of Turkulan, and two checkpoints from Kurdish militias

On Monday night, Iraqi Prime Minister and Commander-in-Chief Haider al-Abadi ordered the military to ensure security at military bases and government facilities in the disputed Kurds in the province of Kirkuk. At the same time, he ordered the army to cooperate with Kurdish militia units and to avoid confrontation. However, Kurdish media reports that armed clashes between the two sides have begun
https://rg.ru/2017/10/16/armiia-iraka-otbil...-v-
kirkuke.html
Iraqi tanks on the streets of Kurkuk.

[alcor]

Quote: talgat kaumbaev

Not what north wind will not be, east blows in full.
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1200 PKK fighters arrived to help the Kurds of Kirkuk.
What irony is that part of Iraqi Kurds from the PUK merges Kirkuk, and the eternal enemies of the PKK barzanists come to the aid of the Barzani peshmerga despite the differences of 30 years.

There will be guys. Only they will offer - our amers will immediately take their place. Iraq has always been in the zone of our interests. Both oil and location, the same transit to Syria ... We Iraq, and so at the first request we supported and we support. Remember, the Americans delayed the supply of F-16. We drove the Su-25 in a week, just asked.