Giveaways with enemies

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Saudi King Salman’s visit to Moscow was one of the most controversial events of modern Russian diplomacy. Advertised by official propaganda as an undoubted breakthrough, it threatens the country with a crisis of relations with allies and emphasizes the essence of foreign policy, dependent on the needs of propaganda and corporate interests.



Diplomatic show

The deep gulf between the Russian reality and the “picture” drawn by the authorities and the media is obvious to every sensible person. Suffering from rising prices and tariffs, barely making ends meet citizens say: every day their life is getting better. Kafka's worthy pen of surrealism has been filling the information space for more than 25 years. And the leaders of the country are not going to refuse it, rightly seeing in the political fantasies the most important support of their power.

In recent years, foreign policy has entered the category of the main levers of the manipulation of consciousness. Through propaganda she turned into a kind of endless series, distracting the attention of viewers from the really pressing problems. Let us recall how millions of Russians followed the sinking of their hearts in the clash of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump! A "Ukrainian" and "Syrian" series? The average Russian is much better informed about the peripeties of their plots than about the state of the domestic industry or government budget policy.

A refrain of political "soap operas" is the theme of "the revival of the greatness of Russia." In accordance with this myth, which Khlestakov would envy in the company of Bender, Moscow dictates its will to the whole world. Dictates - and the point! And let NATO Tanks stand 100 kilometers from St. Petersburg, even if Kremlin strategists allowed Ukraine to become the worst enemy of Russia, and partners in the EAEU and the Collective Security Treaty Organization in the person of the same Kazakhstan are increasingly resorting to anti-Russian injections ... There is a taboo on public analysis of these topics.

This approach carries a serious danger. Foreign policy becomes a hostage to propaganda, the main goal of which is to demonstrate a vivid picture, to hold a small political show and once again highlight Russia's successes in the diplomatic arena. Hence the increasingly noticeable indiscriminateness in the contacts of the Kremlin. An example is the visit of the King of Saudi Arabia Salman Al Saud that took place on 4 — 7 in October.

Like other more or less serious events, it appears in two “dimensions”: real and informational. Let's start with the first. The Russian-Saudi talks brought no sensational results. Of course, it is impossible not to note the fact that the head of the kingdom visited Russia for the first time in all history relations of the two countries. But this is understandable, given their features. Since its inception, Saudi Arabia has been in the orbit of Western influence — first British, then American. With all the consequences.

If we reject praise, which, according to the laws of Eastern diplomacy, the Saudi delegation did not stint, and the Russian side responded in every way, sometimes even exaggeratedly, the bottom line is quite modest results. Of the 14 signed documents, a large part are memorandums of understanding that carry a minimum of “payload”. Of more specific agreements, we can highlight the creation of joint investment funds in the field of energy and high technologies, as well as the participation of Riyadh in the construction of a toll highway in Moscow and a high-speed tram line in St. Petersburg. The only contract in the field of military-technical cooperation was Russia's agreement to place in the kingdom a licensed production of AK-103 assault rifles and ammunition. For some other types of weapons (TOS-1A flamethrower systems, AGS-30 grenade launchers, Kornet-EM anti-tank missile systems), memorandums of intent have been signed.

Separate conversation deserves anti-aircraft missile system C-400 "Triumph", which allegedly agreed to acquire Saudi Arabia. The Russian media speak of this as a fait accompli, although in reality everything is built on a rather shaky factual foundation. First of all, these are the words of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin, who declared Riyadh’s interest. Secondly, these are some anonymous sources of the Kommersant newspaper, which reported on the achievement of an “agreement in principle” between the countries on the sale of C-400. No official confirmation. Even Kommersant, which is referenced by most other publications, admits that the specific parameters of the transaction will still be discussed, and this will happen at a meeting of the intergovernmental commission, the exact date of which is not determined.

Middle Eastern gendarme

The situation with C-400 brings us to the second, informational “layer” of King Salman's visit. By means of propaganda, he was given exceptional status. Here is one of the typical headlines: “Farewell to America: Saudi Arabia has chosen Russia as a new strategic partner.” Such assessments are clearly intended to create the feeling that the closest ally visited Russia, and the fateful agreements became the outcome of the negotiations. Hence, the desire to extol the results of the visit - up to the frank introduction of citizens in error.

Neither of which real convergence can we speak of. Riyadh was and remains a close ally of the United States. This is indicated at least by the volume of military-technical cooperation between Riyadh and Washington. As a result of Trump's May visit, contracts for 110 billions of dollars were signed between them, the implementation of which is in full swing. October 6 US State Department approved the sale of the monarchy THAAD anti-missile systems worth 15 billions of dollars.

But it's not just the size of the contracts. Saudi Arabia is acting contrary to Russia's national interests. It may be recalled that since the end of 1970, the monarchy has actively supported the Afghan Mujahideen. A significant contribution to this process was made by the current king, and then by the governor of the capital province of Salman. Under his leadership, a committee acted to collect donations in favor of the militants. Similar subversive work was carried out by Riyadh and after the collapse of the USSR. “Independent Ichkeria” received help from the kingdom, and many Saudi Wahhabis joined its armed forces.

The ongoing seventh year Syrian conflict is also fueled by a kingdom sponsoring groups like Jaish al-Islam or Ahrar al-Sham. An open secret is Riyadh’s connections with the Islamic State *. This, for example, was stated in a letter from Hillary Clinton to the head of her campaign headquarters, John Podesté, promulgated by the WikiLeaks website. And it is difficult to suspect the former US Secretary of State of insufficient awareness ...

In general, Saudi Arabia, along with Israel, is the main conductor of American influence in the Middle East. This role of gendarme was actively manifested in Yemen. The operation of the Riyadh-led alliance against the Houthit movement cost the country enormous sacrifices. Meaningless bombing does not stop for a single day. Here are some of the war crimes of the last month: 12 civilians died in the province of Marib; in Hajj Province, an airstrike destroyed an entire family, killed 4 women and 5 children; in the province of Taiz, Saudi airplanes bombed the market ... On October 5, the UN added Saudi Arabia to the "black list" of participants in the conflicts responsible for the death of children. According to incomplete data, only last year in Yemen, due to coalition aggression, about 700 minors were killed and injured. The destruction of life support systems has led to the largest cholera epidemic in recent decades. As of the beginning of October, 777 thousands of infections have been recorded in Yemen, over 2 thousands of people have died.

Contrary to the speculations of many local journalists, the visit of the Saudi monarch to Russia was not aimed at refusal, but at consolidating this position of the Middle Eastern gendarme. At meetings with Putin and Medvedev, Salman spoke openly about this. "To achieve stability in the Middle East, it is required that Iran stop its policy of destabilization and respect international legality," he said. Regarding Syria, the king insisted on the implementation of the decisions of the international conference "Geneva-1" and the UN Security Council resolution 2254. They envisage the creation of a transitional government in the country, the adoption of a new Constitution and the holding of general elections. At the same time in Saudi Arabia (as well as in the United States) interpret these conditions in their own way and insist on the departure of Bashar al-Assad. Cynical frankness was also contained in Salman’s statement about Yemen. As the monarch stressed, the crisis should be resolved in accordance with the initiatives of the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf - an organization under the control of Riyadh.

Substituting the back of the blow ...

The question arises: why did the king make these provocative statements in Moscow? To inform Russian colleagues? But the position of Saudi Arabia in the Kremlin is well known. Another explanation seems more likely: the monarchy is trying to force Russia to distance itself from its Middle Eastern allies - and above all from Iran. This assumption has quite a good reason. In April of this year, in response to questions from the American edition of the Washington Post, Prince Muhammad ibn Salman admitted that Riyadh only needed one thing from Moscow — the refusal to cooperate with Tehran. This statement can be considered programmatic: being the Minister of Defense and heir to the throne, Muhammad effectively directs the kingdom on behalf of his 81-year-old father.

To solve this problem, the Saudi leadership resorts to the old-fashioned way - bribing. Having promised large orders to the Kremlin and promulgating the conditions concerning Iran, Syria and Yemen, it is waiting for an answer. A similar scenario was already tested a few years ago, when Riyadh declared its readiness to buy 20 billions of dollars of weapons from Russia, and in exchange demanded that the agreement with Iran for the supply of C-300 complexes be broken. Moscow has fulfilled this shameful condition, having ended up with nothing. As Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov recently admitted, "the Saudis simply played with us."

Did the Kremlin learn a lesson? I would like to believe this, but many signs indicate that the Russian authorities may not withstand the new temptation. Speaking at the Russian energy week timed to Salman’s visit, Vladimir Putin said that he recognized Iran’s national interests, but, according to him, “not only Iran has national interests, Russia, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have them,” . So the president answered the question whether the Iranian armed forces would leave Syria. The presentation of the Federation Council speaker Valentina Matvienko, who during her visit to Saudi Arabia, declared that Russia "does not set aside the goal of preserving Assad at any cost," also leads to reflections. Regarding Yemen, the Kremlin took a stand-alone position, which in the conditions of the crimes committed there is tantamount to supporting aggression.

The final chord was the underlined enthusiastic response of the Russian authorities to the visit of the Saudi king, which showed the Kremlin’s willingness to play giveaway. This happened at the very time when Iran is facing intense pressure from the United States and its allies. This was manifested in Trump’s promulgation of a “comprehensive strategy” for the Islamic Republic.

In such circumstances, the actions of the Kremlin look frankly unfriendly act against Tehran. But quite predictable, given the peculiarities of Russian foreign policy. The first aspect - dependence on the needs of propaganda - we mentioned. The second feature is the enormous influence on the diplomacy of corporate interests. First of all, raw materials. This was manifested in close cooperation between Moscow and Riyadh over oil prices. From the Russian side, he is supervised by Energy Minister Alexander Novak. The agreements of the two countries became the basis for the so-called OPEC + deal, aimed at reducing oil production.

In other words, raw bondage has a fatal impact not only on the economy, but also on the country's foreign policy. Strengthening sovereignty through industrial development and rapprochement with real allies in the Kremlin prefer cooperation with questionable forces, which in the end will cause another “backstab”.
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  1. +23
    16 October 2017 20: 11
    Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???
    1. +4
      16 October 2017 20: 47
      So he himself called the article "Giveaways with Enemies", so for the sake of the King you can also sacrifice a pawn. AAAA chef mustache is gone !! Delirium, though at times true.
    2. +16
      16 October 2017 21: 05
      Quote: baskinmaskin
      Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???

      I categorically join the question. In addition, under the heading "analytics". I’m sorry, creativity analytics can be called solely from the word "anal" ...
      1. +13
        16 October 2017 21: 41
        Quote: Mik13
        Quote: baskinmaskin
        Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???

        I categorically join the question. In addition, under the heading "analytics". I’m sorry, creativity analytics can be called solely from the word "anal" ...

        Strongly support !!! laughing
      2. +4
        17 October 2017 12: 14
        You do not understand!!! Vladimir sees Russia in perspective - and not just now. Well, what are we going to quarrel with China about his plans for our Dalbny East? No, my dears. Vladimir is doing everything right. A real diplomat. Far-sighted.
        1. +6
          17 October 2017 12: 54
          In Mongolia, there are no people and an army, but there is a better climate than ours, minerals and a geographical territory partially owned by China. However, China does not capture it. And Dalny will certainly capture right tomorrow. A strategic ally with joint projects in the foreign exchange and mining sectors. An ally in the geopolitical bloc opposing the hegemonic policy of the United States. Dream ...
        2. +1
          19 October 2017 11: 17
          I agree. No need for emotion. "Everything is lost" from this. A year ago, they wrote the same thing about Turkey. Try to be friends with everyone, but not disinterestedly.
      3. +3
        17 October 2017 14: 10
        And I, somehow for the tip of "verbal diarrhea" slammed a warning. I suppose the author was from close circle. So beware)
        1. +4
          17 October 2017 15: 22
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          And I, somehow for the tip of "verbal diarrhea" slammed a warning. I suppose the author was from close circle. So beware)

          Some authors delete comments and report violations even for the mention in the comments of some uncomfortable facts that somewhat refute their harmonious, but incorrect constructions. Fortunately, there are few. I can only name one. But I will not call - to avoid ...
    3. +19
      16 October 2017 21: 15
      At times, the author writes in the case, but mostly nonsense. Iran, of course, is now like a close partner to us, but can we call him a friend or ally? No you can not. Already was like that - self-styled Dill. We have no friends or allies - even Belarus or Kazakhstan cannot be called them. Today they need us and tomorrow? You need to rely only on yourself for your citizens and your army and navy. And with this we are not so bad. There are problems, but they are not being addressed this way.
      1. +2
        16 October 2017 21: 44
        Quote: seti
        . We have no friends or allies - even Belarus or Kazakhstan cannot be called them.

        Do not do like this! Each has its own interests, and this each has its own field for maneuver, just someone is closer to someone further!
      2. +1
        16 October 2017 22: 27
        Your position is, “my house is my fortress, and the rest doesn’t grow grass,” is still perfectly applicable to such third countries as Belarus, Angola or Ukraine. Any more or less strong power has its own sphere of influence. In Russia, it it was and should be, at least, these are CIS countries.
        And do not forget, by the way, that the allies will be very useful to us if the US starts a war with us.
        1. +3
          17 October 2017 12: 10
          We have no allies, but there are temporary fellow travelers. And then with a knife behind his back.
          1. +2
            17 October 2017 13: 14
            Oddly enough, we always do not have such others, and it does not happen by definition !!!
        2. +1
          17 October 2017 12: 41
          Quote: Sonet
          Any more or less strong power has its own sphere of influence. In Russia, it was and should be, at least, these are CIS countries.
          And do not forget, by the way, that the allies will be very useful to us if the US starts a war with us.

          Do not confuse the concept of allies and partners. the difference is significant.
      3. +1
        17 October 2017 12: 39
        Quote: seti
        Iran, of course, is now like a close partner to us, but can we call him a friend or ally? No you can not.

        And no one says that Iran is our ally, it's just crazy ideas of the author of the article imposed by fungi, and you repeat fool
    4. +7
      16 October 2017 21: 20
      This article (today's incident) is much closer to reality https://topwar.ru/127043-korolevskiy-avans.html
    5. +2
      16 October 2017 21: 30
      Iran is not our ally, as is China. Everyone plays their own game.
      1. +16
        17 October 2017 05: 04
        Of course, neither Iran nor the PRC are allies of the Russian Federation, for being an ally of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, who will throw you for the sake of respected partners at any time (ask Cuba, DPRK, Libya, sar, Iran), is specifically stupid.
    6. 0
      17 October 2017 16: 39
      Indeed, your truth.
      It seems that Mr. Traveler writes. Or Mr. Strelkov.
  2. +9
    16 October 2017 20: 20
    After the very first paragraphs of this article, I wanted to take the Nagant and shoot myself. Is it so bad? I thought ... Still worse! Says fellow author. Life is lived in vain, a continuous "Martian depression." And despite this, I’ll go to work tomorrow, I’ll take part in the assembly of the second building 22800. Then I’ll knock out the steam from heaven, then this steamer, maybe it will become brighter ...
    1. +5
      17 October 2017 12: 34
      The military budget of Russia is about 4 trillion rubles ..... 1 trillion rubles has been allocated for the reorganization of two banks, Otkritie and Binbank ... I'm afraid there will not be enough money for the second building ... and everything is super ....
      1. 0
        17 October 2017 16: 09
        But this is different money.
        1. +1
          17 October 2017 17: 27
          There is only one budget ... sadness ... what prevents cutting from the military? passed .... But as the officials in the banking sector say, there will be no panic ... Everything for them dear ... The Crimean bridge that is visible from space 300 billion rubles ... Why such a thing that is not visible ... for a trillion .. .
          1. 0
            18 October 2017 09: 20
            You did not understand. The money spent on defense and the sonation of banks is different. The first, for the most part, are ordinary rubles collected by taxes. And for sonation, credit money is used. They are created from the air when necessary, and just as easily "destroyed." The Central Bank does not draw taxpayers' money on the sonation of banks. How the Fed draws money in the USA. That's why US agents of influence write angry / panic / revelatory articles. For our Central Bank insolently uses their methods. And in place of what would destroy the financial sector and the real economy. Carry out financial manipulations, and additionally pumps up the economy with liquidity with low inflationary influence.
            1. 0
              18 October 2017 11: 35
              I deeply agree with you (about the budget) .. but this infusion of the financial system cannot be cured by this injection ... a trillion reorganization means the collapse of all supervisory and licensing bodies, including the Central Bank (lack of supervision and control over the financial sector) .. .. A cancer patient cannot be treated with this ... (poultices) ... It’s not easy to pull a trillion out of the Russian economy ... hang in the form of excessive liquidity in banks ... which is also a minus .. Too much volume ... the bomb is still...
              1. 0
                18 October 2017 17: 28
                Once again for those who are in the tank. Money is drawing. They are not taken from anywhere. Before the sonation of this money did not exist. If they can then pick them up competently it will be generally kosher. Our Central Bank uses the strategy of the Fed and the ECB, only targeted and targeted.
                1. 0
                  19 October 2017 11: 10
                  For those gifted who are not in the tank ... the link to the Fed’s actions is illiterate .... bucks the world currency can be printed endlessly ... the global economy ... they won’t be able to collect correctly .. this is also a fact .. until then cases of competent actions of the Central Bank (they can raise taxes .. for example, raising excise taxes on gasoline) .. otherwise inflation ... when raising taxes, the impoverishment of the population ...
                  1. 0
                    19 October 2017 17: 23
                    Mdya The money is different. There are cash, non-cash and credit. Credit money is very easy to get into the world of "live" money.
                    And even the Fed cannot print as much as it wants. For why do they raise interest rates?
                    And the actions of our Central Bank are so illiterate that its head is called the best head of the Central Bank?
                    1. 0
                      19 October 2017 21: 52
                      They made fun of ... whom and by whom and where they called ... finally horror ... Gorbachev received the Nobel and ...? is he the best? ... Abamka peacemaker (nobel) will die laughing ... Boris Moiseev people's artist of the Russian Federation ... still make fun? The Fed can print whatever it wants ... the dollar dies ... the planet’s economy dies ... this is the planet’s problem, not the US .... The Fed is a private office and wants to make a profit ... vile .. The US economy pluses ... why no? Enough about the Central Bank to recall the last collapse of the ruble .. refusal to support the course ... although the law explicitly states this as his duty .. then stupid speculation on the course ... and reorganization? collapse of the Central Bank as a supervisor ...
                      1. 0
                        19 October 2017 21: 56
                        Is it difficult for credit money to become alive? ...... five times haha ​​... read the pieces of paper on the fence ... any loan .... will be cashed out for any amount .. even a mat. capital...
                      2. 0
                        20 October 2017 15: 12
                        It is worth sharing political rewards. And highly specialized professionally oriented.
                        And so laugh. Do you know the reason for laughter for no reason?
      2. +4
        17 October 2017 19: 37
        "there is not enough money for the second building ... and everything is super ..."
        In no case! Do not be so kind as to doubt. The second building is in the form of sections that are already ready and now they are being installed. I will say even more (nobody has demanded the benefit of subscriptions yet) - sections of the third building are being assembled. So our brother spits until seven in the evening, and on Saturdays they go out-strain.
        1. +1
          17 October 2017 20: 17
          Thank you ... I'm only for ... work ... fasten RUSSIA !!!!
  3. AUL
    +14
    16 October 2017 20: 24
    It’s a shame ... We grab onto any momentary "friends", like drowning in a straw.
    1. +17
      16 October 2017 20: 40
      What is shameful ?! Thousands of times already discussed. There are no friends forever, there are countries with which interests coincide today. No more. And while interests coincide, we are best friends. And then, how the card will fall. This is not invented by us, and not for us to cancel. hi
      1. +1
        17 October 2017 13: 10
        For more than a century, Jews have been living that way and not feeling bad, only they are always beaten like bugs !!!
    2. 0
      16 October 2017 21: 45
      Quote from AUL
      It’s a shame ... We grab onto any momentary "friends", like drowning in a straw.

      crying crying crying
    3. +1
      17 October 2017 13: 13
      This is not a straw, it is a log from which you still need to push the extra !!!
  4. +11
    16 October 2017 20: 28
    Read. Rolled a gram 250 Wrapped in a sheet, took a spatula. Delirious to the churchyard, self-digging ..........................
    1. +2
      16 October 2017 23: 55
      Mmm, well, "earthworks" are different, for example, you can shave a trench or a "cache" in case of partisanism. good And then "self-digging" already, more than once drinks
    2. 0
      17 October 2017 12: 22
      250 is clearly not enough after such an article. fellow
  5. Say
    +1
    16 October 2017 20: 57
    Both yours and ours for a moderate fee.
  6. +25
    16 October 2017 21: 17
    Article like article request The opinion of the author, having the right to life winked - we have a democracy (not western, but real) wink fellow
    Now, if you do not take into account all these fabrications, but look only at the last paragraph, the question arises - what, realities are not like that? Is a liberal economy actually a raw material economy? Not dependent on oil prices? The fact that the military-industrial complex, thanks to Putin who came to power, finally did not have time to cast aside its hooves, and with grief on the floors at least as much as trying to offer something in the industry, as an analogue of oil. How many research institutes were defeated in the drunken 90s? How seriously is the industry modernizing? Or is it still squeezing juices, albeit quiet, but the oligarchs? Under the USSR, newspapers of acquired real estate and football clubs (foreign) were full of elites? ..... There are a lot of questions that need to be addressed, not hid by "cheers-patriotism" Yes And to engage not in statistics (read “fraud”) but in real work on the development of industry and agriculture, then a gap will appear. And when you really become strong (in the economy, and not in the army) then others will reach for you (the authority of the Foreign Ministry’s “concerns” and “deepest disappointments” is not won - they all know this perfectly according to the “street” laws)
    Then the ships will be built and their planes too. And the education must be returned "Sovkovskoye" - then the real shots will appear, and not the "victims" of the exam with smartphones in their hands instead of the mind in the skull .... We have our own civilization, with our own way feel
    Sadly all this .... winked
    So, thoughts out loud ....
    1. +3
      17 October 2017 12: 47
      Quote: Rurikovich
      An article as an article request Opinion of the author, having the right to life winked - we have a democracy (not Western, but real) wink fellow

      What kind of democracy, I’m for the reason that I told the boor that he gave a warning to the boor, and for some reason they didn’t let me ask the question where is the insult. And here it’s just ******** and by the way is not the first article of this type, but its author is not banned for libel, because this is an “author’s vision” ...

      Now I will be banned for criticizing the actions of administrators ...
      1. +1
        17 October 2017 14: 13
        Hand from the victim of admin power "nothing" lol
    2. +1
      17 October 2017 15: 42
      Sadly all this .... 
      So, thoughts out loud ....
      But I’m already used to the tricks of power, so everything is in a bundle. Previously, in places, they lived even worse - and somehow survived. Well, if specifically for the article, I’ll say this - politics, it’s a lot of dirt and you don’t need to get into it without talent (always stay clean). Everyone should do their own thing and do it well. Then it will be good. And the Sauds, in my opinion, have never been and never will be friends to us (I mean during our lifetimes). By the way, in everything I have written, I am one hundred percent sure - life experience, however ...
  7. +19
    16 October 2017 21: 17
    Yes, the people do not want such publications, give the people "panfara".
    1. +7
      16 October 2017 21: 25
      Quote: Curious
      Give the people of Panfara.

      Well Duc, panfarnem ... Persia - Russia - friendship forever !!!!!!! You can also cheer.
      1. +3
        16 October 2017 21: 47
        You can still bang into the timpani. Also beautiful.
        1. +2
          16 October 2017 22: 56
          It is unnecessary. Enough drum wink
          1. +2
            17 October 2017 14: 14
            No harp, take a tambourine! (c) Maestro winked
  8. +14
    16 October 2017 21: 22
    Quote: baskinmaskin
    Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???

    well, he doesn't have pink glasses. If everything is normal in Moscow, then little has changed in the outback over the past 15 years.
    1. +12
      16 October 2017 22: 40
      Quote: SAM0SA
      Quote: baskinmaskin
      Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???

      well, he doesn't have pink glasses. If everything is normal in Moscow, then little has changed in the outback over the past 15 years.

      Nothing in Moscow is normal, it’s also shitty, like everywhere else. One has to observe firsthand, in their main activity, a massive decline in population incomes (in soft terms), and the complete destruction of the middle class. For witnesses to the economic boom and rising prosperity, I’ll say the following, for me you are “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in both sects, which are controlled by fraudsters and charlatans.
      1. +1
        17 October 2017 06: 30
        the destruction of the middle class

        What in your understanding is this? What are the criteria of the "middle class"?
        1. 0
          17 October 2017 08: 18
          Quote: S-Kerrigan
          the destruction of the middle class

          What in your understanding is this? What are the criteria of the "middle class"?

          If it is simple, then the definition of the middle class (fundamental for any country) is an opportunity not only to spend everything on existence, but also to create some accumulations of material resources.
          1. 0
            18 October 2017 08: 57
            Ok, then I do not agree with the thesis "total destruction of the middle class". Personally, I see something different - people themselves go into loans for the sake of a fresh MacBook or travel. At the same time, both examples of spending are not at all the condition "we live and not survive."

            Just an explanation - I do not deny the need for communication, recreation, I do not need to ascribe this. I’m talking about something else - no one bothers to take a model of a previous generation or used. No one bothers choosing a hotel / tour for cheaper. No one bothers not to update the handset every year. But people are such people ... example: "Yes, my car is already old (the saying of one Madame, whose car is something in the spirit of 10 years)." And I look at the same mustangs of the 1980s and I don’t understand what she’s talking about - she drives a “sports” Audi, keep her car in good shape and there will be no problems, but no, it’s exactly what laments that I don’t take such a new one now can.
            1. 0
              18 October 2017 11: 01
              Well, I’m not talking about loans, small and medium-sized businesses are being destroyed, that’s the main problem.
              1. 0
                19 October 2017 04: 59
                small and medium-sized businesses are being destroyed, that’s the main problem.

                Ok, I completely agree with that. It is destroyed and it is the same in my opinion a problem. But it is still not quite "destroyed the middle class."
  9. 0
    16 October 2017 21: 40
    wassat do not make hoof donkey Hoji Nasredinna laugh! wassat
  10. +10
    16 October 2017 22: 00
    Quote: Curious
    Yes, the people do not want such publications, give the people "panfara".

    Adherents of such publications do not tolerate this - they, as the author of the article, attacked them, but they are adherents, and sane people see and understand everything already! Even articles are not necessary. sad
    1. +3
      17 October 2017 07: 40
      Without articles, most citizens will not notice the dangerous roll of the ship. Maybe tomorrow the roll will not be straightened.
  11. 0
    16 October 2017 22: 07
    The author is partially right ... But politics is an art ... If you can plant seeds of doubt in your opponent’s plans, then why not? Now such seeds are sown in relations between Turkey and NATO, and it is clear that they are bearing fruit, because there is no longer any trust between them (the Germans were not allowed to their units and they had to fly away. There are constant diplomatic “graters” with the states). The contract for the supply of S-400 for KSA means an opportunity to close the sky from its long-standing partners, and something tells me that the partners will have to, oh how not to taste ...
    1. +1
      17 October 2017 13: 03
      Between them there was no time when the Turks knew only themselves as the Chinese, friendship is friendship and donkey keep donkey in the barn !!!
  12. +14
    16 October 2017 22: 20
    To describe the foreign policy of today's Russia, the mere fact of October 14 is enough that the Nazis walked along the main streets of our native Kiev.
    To describe the domestic policy of present-day Russia, another fact is enough - the State Duma is seriously going to introduce a tax on pets.
    A curtain.
    1. +1
      17 October 2017 09: 31
      Nazi march in Kiev, too, Putin and Lavrov organized? Here it is, Mikhalych! (C)
      1. HDZ
        +7
        17 October 2017 12: 46
        they didn’t organize it; they destroyed it, like Ukraine as a whole.
      2. +7
        17 October 2017 14: 03
        Nazi march in Kiev, too, Putin and Lavrov organized? Here it is, Mikhalych! (C)

        And who allowed such a situation in Ukraine - aren't these geniuses of foreign policy? But foreign policy is generally the only thing that Putin is engaged in (well, or pretends). Based on this, the establishment of friendly regimes on its borders is the most important task. How the “god” of foreign policy pitted with this task is not necessary to explain. Well, it’s better not to remember about domestic politics at all.
    2. +2
      17 October 2017 12: 58
      It’s just that the trouble of cats and dogs is put on record, and so it will come to the Democrats !!!
    3. +1
      18 October 2017 08: 00
      Quote: Sonet
      The State Duma is seriously going to introduce a tax on pets.
      A curtain.
      Take your time so.

      Putin suggested that Russians pay for medicine ... According to the president, the organization of the healthcare industry must act in such a way that a person understands his own responsibility for health. “We need to think about where the state is obliged exactly, <...> in what segments, in what volume, in what directions, to provide assistance free of charge, and where some kind of co-financing is possible,” Putin said.
  13. +1
    16 October 2017 23: 37
    Quote: Tektor
    The author is partially right ... But politics is an art ... If you can plant seeds of doubt in your opponent’s plans, then why not? Now such seeds are sown in relations between Turkey and NATO, and it is clear that they are bearing fruit, because there is no longer any trust between them (the Germans were not allowed to their units and they had to fly away. There are constant diplomatic “graters” with the states). The contract for the supply of S-400 for KSA means an opportunity to close the sky from its long-standing partners, and something tells me that the partners will have to, oh how not to taste ...

    When I read such comments I immediately remember - "... come on, Stirlitz! Ringing in my ears ...! Classic! wassat
  14. +24
    17 October 2017 00: 41
    Honestly, I sometimes have the thought that some kind of series is developing, vaudeville type.
    The country, which yesterday acted as a gas station in the international arena, began to confidently dictate its will and rules of the game.
    And, lo and behold, these rules of the game are starting to suit anyone - the trendsetter, the Americans.
    But what happened?
    We took our money from US government papers?
    Have we made the ruble a freely convertible currency?
    We stopped asking for permission to print our rubles, depending on whether we have dollars?
    Our transactions do not go through SWIFT?
    We have had a qualitative and quantitative leap in the sun, which allows you to boldly look into our future?
    Are we dictating oil and gas prices?
    So what happened that changed the balance of power?
    Or maybe there is no change in the layout?
    Is everything left as it is?
    Just somewhere, someone decided that there should always be a “bad” boy and a “good” one.
    When the boy is alone, there is no room for maneuver.
    Even better when the boys are three or four.
    Then you can roll up such "bachelor parties" - it’s a pleasure to watch.
    Of course, everything can be attributed to paranoia and say that the matter lies in the personality of V.V. Putin.
    Only the President’s personality does not seem so grandiose to me.
    He speaks quite competently. Sometimes uses colloquial expressions.
    Secretive enough. Able to achieve goals.
    But at the same time, he is completely unable to control the internal processes in the country.
    Mistakes in personnel policy.
    He surrounds himself with friends from a past life, whom he gives to enrich beyond measure.
    Does such a portrait attract an outstanding personality?
    No, it does not pull.

    So a lot of questions. And here are the answers with Gulkin's nose.
    1. +2
      17 October 2017 07: 21
      Thanks for the comment. Answers will be the main questions to ask. Amazed at the breadth of thinking. I am pleased to put the author of the comment. Demo plus.
    2. +9
      17 October 2017 07: 56
      Quote: demo
      demo

      The extraordinary ease of thought of a sofa analyst, who obviously does not know the features of the “kitchen”, but who undertakes to evaluate the work of the chef, is more striking.
      Minus negative
      1. +3
        17 October 2017 14: 11
        The extraordinary ease of thought of a sofa analyst, who obviously does not know the features of the “kitchen”, but who undertakes to evaluate the work of the chef, is more striking.

        Do you have to be a chef to understand that the egg is stuck?
        1. +7
          17 October 2017 15: 19
          Quote: vadsonen
          Do you have to be a chef to understand that the egg is stuck?

          I didn’t understand whose egg you specifically meant. recourse
          Be afraid ... from me, from under my flag, it’s much better to see what and where "has gone bad" than to you from your ...
      2. -1
        17 October 2017 14: 21
        Never Golovan
    3. wvg
      +2
      17 October 2017 12: 27
      but try to find the answer yourself!
      Weak?
      But it turns out that there is simply no alternative!
      It is easy to criticize from the couch when you do not have to act with the calculation of forces and possible allies. Friends? And who do you order to lean on? For a foe?
      After everything the country has experienced, it’s hard to jump out and turn the table over to start the game anew ... It has already passed, such as “to the bottom and then ...” And then there was the next 1991 and again to the bottom ...
      Enough to pull the people on the same rake!
      A change in power, especially a violent one, never leads to positive change.
    4. +1
      17 October 2017 18: 00
      I support you completely. Think about it — it took 7-8 years for the Prime Minister to somehow “tear apart” the Yeltsin’s elite and formulate a new Russian policy in the international arena! It is very difficult, and impossible, to imagine with whom and what you had to face .Putin at the “top of power.” The military counterintelligence officer, who was subordinate to the USSR SYSTEM, alone had to confront the “democracy” of the crowd, risking his personal life, but to win without receiving instructions from the command — it was an ACTION! Then there was the collapse of the USSR, the army, special services, work under the identity of A. Sobchak (according to his instructions), that is, he himself did not lead a large team, had no practical work experience in production, in social and other spheres of society, so he “gained experience on the road "- NOBODY (from the old" elite ") helped him! I had to rely on friends and comrades (everyone knows them by sight now). With such a path to the leadership of such a huge and many-sided country, mistakes cannot be made, which is why it turns out some long and painful movement to revive Russia from the "embrace" of the West. But ".... the road will take the road!" It’s a pity that on this road the leadership more than once “steps on the same rake.” This mainly concerns HR, FINANCE, RIGHTS, EMPLOYMENT, PENSIONS. The Russian people have been waiting for improvements for 17 years! Therefore, I don’t want to share the fate of those about whom it is said that ".... only I will not have to live in this wonderful time, neither you nor you!"
  15. kig
    +2
    17 October 2017 03: 43
    Well, if the whole economy depends on the price of oil, which (the price) is dictated by other countries ... you will inevitably begin to suck up at these others.
  16. +1
    17 October 2017 04: 32
    Mr. Kozhemyakin, did you just write an article here?
  17. +2
    17 October 2017 04: 35
    Quote: Sonet
    To describe the foreign policy of today's Russia, the mere fact of October 14 is enough that the Nazis walked along the main streets of our native Kiev.
    To describe the domestic policy of present-day Russia, another fact is enough - the State Duma is seriously going to introduce a tax on pets.
    A curtain.

    What does Russia have to do with pig farmers choosing fascists? On LDNR did not pass?
    1. wvg
      +4
      17 October 2017 12: 20
      whence infa that someone chose them? They themselves came, with the support of the "world community" and without even asking anyone.
  18. +1
    17 October 2017 04: 38
    Quote: Curious
    Yes, the people do not want such publications, give the people "panfara".

    And what is a "panfare"? Where do they give? How much? How much in hand? Maybe fanfare?
  19. +1
    17 October 2017 04: 42
    Quote: Sonet
    Your position is, “my house is my fortress, and the rest doesn’t grow grass,” is still perfectly applicable to such third countries as Belarus, Angola or Ukraine. Any more or less strong power has its own sphere of influence. In Russia, it it was and should be, at least, these are CIS countries.
    And do not forget, by the way, that the allies will be very useful to us if the US starts a war with us.

    It will come in handy, only the concept of the Military Union I have not heard for a long time, with the mattresses the opposite is true ...
    1. wvg
      +1
      17 October 2017 12: 15
      get excited! For mattresses, everything is exactly the same! While they hold their allies by the eggs, they all sing the same way. As soon as the presence of eggs becomes incompatible with life, their allies choose life.
  20. +8
    17 October 2017 06: 47
    Let's start with the first one. Russian-Saudi negotiations have not brought any sensational results

    Very competent article. good
    1. +1
      17 October 2017 09: 35
      For the alarmist, yes, literate
      1. +10
        17 October 2017 11: 00
        The article is just the most objective
        1. wvg
          +3
          17 October 2017 12: 15
          here on this article you will go!
  21. +1
    17 October 2017 07: 28
    If Iran is not our ally, as the Israeli lobby claims, then KSA is definitely the enemy.
    Our rulers once again showed their faces.
    Has anyone said about unhappy Yemen in Moscow to Salman?
    Where are the human rights defenders? Is everything alright in Saudi Arabia?
    1. wvg
      +1
      17 October 2017 12: 18
      and on a fig to tell him? And so this poor Yemen? They are opposing and quite successfully an entire coalition! and not only confront but also take the initiative into their own hands.
    2. +1
      17 October 2017 12: 48
      There everything is fine with an objectionable head chopped, so before you say anything or do it first think !!!
      Something does not bother us to adopt!
  22. +4
    17 October 2017 09: 08
    The verbiage and at the same time the GALLERY of the author of the article, he really did not understand what he wrote.
  23. +5
    17 October 2017 10: 23
    Actually, the article was written as if someone had stepped on his foot, in the zone of his interests. Suddenly, I have not seen such articles here ...
  24. +11
    17 October 2017 10: 57
    Great article! Urapatriotov hysteria true eyes pricks
    1. +5
      17 October 2017 11: 56
      Support.
  25. +2
    17 October 2017 11: 20
    In Yemen, everything is so, there Saudis kill people, and Russia receives killers, IS sponsors
    1. 0
      17 October 2017 17: 35
      The oligarch of the Russian Federation is not Russia.
  26. +5
    17 October 2017 12: 09
    Another nonsense in the ruling elite of Russia drag us into the abyss. And they just can’t understand that they themselves will fall into it.
  27. wvg
    +3
    17 October 2017 12: 09
    Quote: seti
    At times, the author writes in the case, but mostly nonsense.

    not at times, but constantly. The article is a compilation from hackneyed sources and not a single fresh or original thought. It is felt that a person is paid for the number of characters and not for the content. Although depending on whose content it is located, options are possible.
    1. +1
      17 October 2017 14: 18
      Why do you earn so little?
  28. +2
    17 October 2017 12: 31
    On the one hand, there are Saudis with Wahhabism and Sharia, and on the other, Americans with liberal Satanism and pederasting. Where to go to the poor peasant. We have to negotiate with those and others. But it’s better not to peer into the abyss. The Saudis agreed to reduce oil production. They both benefited from this, and we and Iran.
  29. +1
    17 October 2017 12: 44
    They’ll buy everything they’re allowed to sell, it’s not always that the Americans will be scrap metal for crazy money to supply the sense of armament anyway!
    Education is above all, even an armed savage has no prospect!
  30. +4
    17 October 2017 13: 04
    What kind of down is this? Set of haunted white-London stamps. With everything gone, citizens are dying en masse in power. On the "Echo matzah" this vyseru place. There he will pass with a bang, for the same near-sighted public.
  31. +3
    17 October 2017 13: 16
    Who bought my favorite site?
    What is this I just read?
    Admins - you end ... ate there?
    This material for the Echo of Moscow is liberal fag ....
    1. +1
      17 October 2017 14: 20
      Do not distort, my friend.
      1. +8
        17 October 2017 21: 33
        Quote: NordUral
        Do not distort, my friend

        The guy in the pants, my dear ...
        Quote: EVIL
        This is the material for the Echo of Moscow ..

        Yes, and for that, IMHO ... it is densely and evilly smelly negative
    2. 0
      17 October 2017 14: 24
      Zlun
      Well, in a sense for people like you ...
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  33. +1
    17 October 2017 13: 38
    Wrong article. A "knife in the back" always threatens from the so-called "allies" - from everyone, and not just from Iran. For the sake of their interests EVERYONE can betray. And it is not in Russia's interests to make friendships with one person, refusing benefits with others. Any economic ties also affect politics, as they are interested in certain circles within the participating countries. In addition, one cannot refuse the benefits received by Russian corporations abroad. “Both ours and yours” - this is how China, for example, acts, and does not suffer from it at all. And all the so-called "allies" act in the same way and they have no jealousy or resentment, as long as they are interested in ties with Russia.
  34. Bat
    +2
    17 October 2017 13: 49
    Sergey Kozhemyakin, tomorrow Vladimir Vladimirovich will quarrel with the whole world and declare war. To the Ukrainians, Arabs, Korea. Do you personally go to war? I doubt it. So sit on your couch and peel the seeds. Analyst damn
  35. 0
    17 October 2017 14: 05
    And where did the author find the real allies of Russia? Empirically, it has been proven day after day that Russia has only 2 real allies: the Army and Navy, but this is not a word about them in the article :-)
  36. +2
    17 October 2017 14: 09
    Refusal from deliveries of С300 to Iran, these are the very complexes, on the successful completion of deliveries of which were announced by VO October 13, 2016? https://topwar.ru/102035-zavershena-postavka-divi
    zionov-s-300pmu-1-v-iran.html. Does the author confuse anything while exposing the mental abilities of the authorities? Are all negotiations with the Saudis open? Do we know everything? Is there that instructive, mentoring tone? The author is a specialist in the Middle East?
    1. 0
      17 October 2017 15: 29
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      The author is a specialist in the Middle East?

      The author is a two-handed pesatel. He has no time to read any nonsense. But the Author has a point of view ...
  37. +1
    17 October 2017 14: 15
    Not every enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia is forced to have partners if this brings income to our country.
    We need to maintain normal relations with Iran due to its geographical location. The people of this country do not
    envy, some sanctions are replaced by others. Russia offers to buy the country S-400. Iran is pondering. Who leads this
    trade with a poor country. Indeed, there is something to buy from Iran. Our economy is swinging for a long time. The Minister says that
    He has a whole package of orders for the construction of nuclear power plants in other countries. When will this package work?
  38. +1
    17 October 2017 14: 27
    Iran is certainly not a friend to us, but not an enemy. But as much damage as the Saudis did the USSR, and then Russia, supporting the Afghan Mujahideen, and then Chechen fighters, dropping oil prices, etc. few did.
  39. +1
    17 October 2017 14: 39
    Mr. Kozhemyakin, who are you? Who ordered your anal lyrics? If you are so smart and prudent, offer your services to our Foreign Ministry and the Russian government, and maybe to Putin himself. In the meantime - this is bullshit. Diplomacy and diplomacy in order to look for different ways to solve problems. Yes, for Russia there are no better times. But you should not sprinkle ash on your head. Are you against the independent policy of Russia? How much have you been promised or do you hope that payment will be made upon delivery? Do not expect. Too cheap article to get a decent fee. Good luck to all readers. Yes, and you too. Go ahead. Can get approval from the Yavlinsky, Navalny, Kasyanov, Kasparov and various other Swedes ...
  40. 0
    17 October 2017 15: 02
    In order to distance Russia from Tehran, did the king deign to come to Moscow? Very doubtful. I think the purpose of the arrival is completely different. It’s just that the king cannot come and drink some tea.
  41. +2
    17 October 2017 15: 12
    The unwavering stupidity of the Great Russian cap-bearers causes despair at the thought of the country's prospects. Not a single argument against the one expressed in the article. Only swearing in response. Obvious facts do not want to recognize. Blind-deaf-atrophy of the brain. "There is only my opinion and there is a wrong one."
  42. +1
    17 October 2017 16: 00
    I would like to remind the author that when we achieved the lifting of sanctions from Iran, these cunning bastards immediately increased oil production. And as they were not asked, they refused to reduce it. In addition, we mean Iranian gas, which they have more of ours. So this "ally" is the same, this is not a sin to kick.
  43. 0
    17 October 2017 16: 07
    someone got a sober thought that the USA could be harmed by luring its friends, who also have a lot of money, than paying for enemies who always have a “difficult situation”. In Europe, such an attempt also failed, but it must be admitted failed. As for the C-300 and C-400, I recall a joke. The dude bought a new computer, meets his neighbor, and he says that he handed it over to the store, they return half the price for a really worthwhile model. The dude changed the computer, and the expert speaks on TV and says that such a model is undoubtedly outdated. Well etc
  44. 0
    17 October 2017 16: 37
    Another Putinslill. Heard many times.
  45. +1
    17 October 2017 16: 59
    Excuse me, what is this "vyser" ???

    Dedicated to all perplexed:
  46. +2
    17 October 2017 17: 53
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: demo
    demo

    The extraordinary ease of thought of a sofa analyst, who obviously does not know the features of the “kitchen”, but who undertakes to evaluate the work of the chef, is more striking.
    Minus negative

    I understand that you wrote this comment from the Kremlin cuisine ?! wassat
  47. +1
    17 October 2017 17: 57
    Quote: Pissarro
    Nazi march in Kiev, too, Putin and Lavrov organized? Here it is, Mikhalych! (C)

    Putin, how long did Ambassador Zurabov keep in Ukraine? sad
  48. +1
    17 October 2017 18: 58
    ** Suffering from rising prices and tariffs, barely making ends meet, citizens are assured: their lives are getting better every day. Kafka's worthy pen Surrealism has been filling the information space for over 25 years **
    I read to this place and understood all the further contents of the article. I have a question for the site moderators: do you check the texts before publishing? And since when did explicit slander come to be called analytics?
  49. +1
    17 October 2017 20: 34
    Quote: Grazhdan
    ** Suffering from rising prices and tariffs, barely making ends meet, citizens are assured: their lives are getting better every day. Kafka's worthy pen Surrealism has been filling the information space for over 25 years **
    I read to this place and understood all the further contents of the article. I have a question for the site moderators: do you check the texts before publishing? And since when did explicit slander come to be called analytics?

    The best way to combat slander is to refute it with reliable information, and facts! hi wassat
    1. 0
      18 October 2017 06: 10
      25 years ago is 1995. I am 48, I remember that time very well, I survived like everyone and I understand the difference perfectly. And why should I now refute something, prove it, maybe the author of the article must prove it, and not rush with bright phrases?
  50. 0
    17 October 2017 21: 24
    I will support the author! Somewhat harsh, but it's all about the case!
    It's disgusting to see how they make an enemy from Ukraine! Old Soviet weapon designs, translated "into digital" and slightly modified give out as know-how. The economy rules everything, there will not be a long strong army with such an oil and gas economy as ours. It is impossible to oppose NATO, at least 30% of GDP we will spend on the army and navy. Always 2% of the whole block of developed economies will be much stronger.
    We must try to follow the path of China, without confrontation with the West, and using their technologies and probably investments .. well, we won’t get to the bottom of everything. By the way, the pre-war USSR followed this path, most of the industry we have created the Western countries.
  51. +1
    18 October 2017 01: 04
    What is typical for such articles is that they not only give nothing to anyone, but they distort reality. In my opinion, this is already the ABC, that controlled chaos is beneficial to only one gendarme in the world - the United States. Therefore, Syria had to be protected. 25 years contain different eras - an attempt to destroy our state and a slow way out of this situation. Do me good! And immediately, otherwise you are all bastards and playing giveaway! In general, an empty article.
  52. 0
    18 October 2017 10: 47
    We all need a union of oil exporters, including both KSA and Iran. We need a place in this union, as its guarantor and arms supplier. Moreover, this union meets the interests of all oil exporters, including Syria, Iran, Iraq, Iran, KSA... The total profit from such a union could amount to from 5 to 7 trillion dollars for everyone over the next 10 years. This is many times more than OPEC countries can hope to win in competition with each other. This is how I would respond to the Saudi calls to put pressure on Iran.
    .
    But the current Kremlin could not even establish cooperation with Ukraine and it left for the West. What can we say about Muslims? And what guarantees can the Kremlin give to new allies if it has betrayed and forgotten all the old ones. He even imposed sanctions against the DPRK!
  53. +1
    18 October 2017 15: 59
    Quote: Grazhdan
    25 years ago is 1995. I am 48, I remember that time very well, I survived like everyone and I understand the difference perfectly. And why should I now refute something, prove it, maybe the author of the article must prove it, and not rush with bright phrases?

    It is not yet possible to check how you survived - maybe you “survived” in Cyprus or Spain!
    For example, in the year you indicated, and also at a fairly mature age, I was at work in the most beautiful (in Soviet times) places of the North Caucasus, but I practically agree with the author! Regarding the “bright” phrases, you started talking about slander. There has never been a brighter phrase in our discussion yet! wassat As for facts, evidence - they are everywhere, around us! In abandoned villages, in the “skeletons” of bankrupt factories and factories, in people who died of hunger, who lost their apartments (in other words, homeless people), or who died in interethnic conflicts between military personnel and civilians, and much, much more...! And I think, besides me, there will be someone here on the forum to confirm and complement me! soldier
  54. +1
    19 October 2017 07: 54
    Quote: Andrey1961
    For more than a century, Jews have been living that way and not feeling bad, only they are always beaten like bugs !!!

    ...bugs need to be frozen out... Well, Corporal Schicklgruber clapped, so what? Moreover, there are more of them. A good example is Durkaina... there are more bedbugs than the rooftops and they are all in warm places...
  55. 0
    20 October 2017 14: 18
    Moscow fulfilled this shameful condition, ultimately being left with nothing.

    Who would doubt that!
  56. 0
    20 October 2017 14: 21
    Quote: tforik
    We must try to follow the path of China

    China's path is socialism!
  57. 0
    20 October 2017 20: 56
    ADmA_RUS,
    I strongly agree with you... but there is a group of especially gifted people over whom there is no way... for example, those who say that pouring a quarter of the military budget into the frail economy of the Russian Federation... does not matter... You should, dear... 5 pension reform...4 time reform...finally adopt the law on women's panties...