Putin’s Turkish Tango takes Trump off his feet

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On the night of Friday, 13, Turkish troops crossed the border with Syria and entered Idlib province. Without fighting, they occupied the territory along the borders with the Kurdish enclave of Afrin, almost closing the encirclement ring along with the de facto terrorist wing of ISIL *, formerly al-Nusroy *, now called Hyat Tahrir al-Sham.

There is nothing surprising in this alliance. Turkey has helped the United States to support terrorist organizations in the Middle East for many years. Today, when thanks to the intervention of Russia, the Bashar Assad government is more resilient than all the last 6 years, and the official ISIL is on the verge of total defeat, many stable and situational alliances are forming in Syria. As everyone who felt like it joined the ISIS terrorists earlier, today disparate detachments detach themselves from it and bud. Not so much those who want to “redeem with blood” and find themselves in the ranks of the winners, as many who do not want to fill up the posthumous lists of losers.



Putin’s Turkish Tango takes Trump off his feet


Turkey also introduced its armed forces not to fight. As well as Damascus, he expressed the expected protest not in order to expel the Turkish troops. The purpose of this multi-layered and extremely complex due to the large number of participants in the show is to force the Kurds in the enclave of Afrin, cut off from both American aid and fellow Kurds, recognize the Syrian government and take the oath of loyalty. Excluding this part of the Syrian territory from the future Kurdish autonomy. Actually, it is around this today that the bidding goes. And they will go for years.

Please note that the clashes of the army with the Kurds have practically ceased in Turkey. No daily attacks and attacks, no sweeps in the squares. The entire length of the border between the Turks and the Kurds is also silence, which is observed better than in the Donbas.

All this testifies to backroom negotiations and agreements that so far suit everyone. The Kurds do not interfere with proclaiming Kurdistan in Iraq and do not actively assist the weak Iraqi army in the struggle for Kirkuk. The Kurds themselves are diligently limited to ousting the terrorists and are trying to occupy as large a territory as possible and without any clashes with the Syrian army in future negotiations on autonomy in Syria.

All this will last for years, and various political groups (and the Kurds are also far from united and not all support Barzani) will cross and change allies more than once or twice.

But the main union is formed. And it is formed by American policy in the region. The organization of the coming to power of Mursi in Egypt and the mutiny with the assassination of Erdogan in Turkey, as well as the betrayal of Riyadh first, and then Doha, many other mistakes and (most importantly) Washington’s support of the Kurds, deserves the name “Operation Unthinkable”.

The Obama administration (and now Trump) has quickly turned its strategic ally in the Middle East into the worst enemy. And the enemy is motivated. The real and far-fetched actions of Washington turned Turkey into a strategic ally of Russia. At least in the Middle East.

It's not about love and not about friendship. Today and in the medium term, Erdogan benefits from an alliance with Russia. It is advantageous for gas supplies, which Turkey will resell, turning into the southern hub of the European Union. It is advantageous to supply S-400, which guarantee the protection of the Turkish sky from any aviation. What American air defense systems cannot provide simply because no one can guarantee the successful defeat of the American aircraft by the Patriot-3 American missile. For Turkey today, it is crucial and advantageous for the foreseeable future to jointly with Syria, Iran and even Iraq oppose the creation of Kurdistan.

The latter is a strategic task for any Turkish ruler - too much of Turkey’s territory is inhabited by Kurds. And too long there is a war with them. And the obvious support of the Kurds by the Americans inevitably pushed Ankara into the arms of Moscow. Not friends, but no longer enemies. Partners for mutual benefits negotiating among themselves.

The de facto and de jure alliance of Russia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Egypt and Iran attracts even Qatar and Saudi Arabia, makes reconciliation with Yemen possible. And even a new relationship with Israel. This union completely redraws the current political map not only of the Middle East.

A map on which there is no place for the USA.
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  1. +1
    16 October 2017 07: 12
    As well as Damascus did not express the expected protest in order to expel the Turkish troops.

    ... as I understand it, the wound had an agreement on this issue with the Turks ...
  2. +3
    16 October 2017 07: 27
    A map on which there is no place for the USA.
    as long as there is a rabid Israeli woman, the Yankees will not be removed from this region. and there is oil
    1. +3
      16 October 2017 22: 17
      Quote: izya top
      and still there is oil

      There is oil everywhere. Except Israel ... lol
      Quote: n
      frantic israeli
      Israel will still be crushed by the Arabs. Not after 5 years, so after 50, not after 50, so after 100. And no nuclear weapons will help. Yes
      1. +1
        17 October 2017 04: 09
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Israel will still be crushed by the Arabs

        push why? return to the original borders, and God bless him
        1. Fog
          +1
          17 October 2017 12: 18
          Why push? Why return? There are already half the Jews Arabs! (I exaggerate, but the essence is true)
      2. 0
        17 October 2017 19: 51
        Not after 100, so after 1000!))))) And do not dream! Israel is developing rapidly, and the Arabs are also rapidly degrading!
  3. +10
    16 October 2017 08: 10
    "On Monday, October 9, it became known that Turkey imposed restrictions on the supply of agricultural products from Russia."
    "After several warnings, the Turkish side shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber that violated the country's air borders. Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ankara’s actions a" stab in the back "and promised retaliation, but it all came down to banning Turkish tomatoes and temporarily closing tourist routes."
    "Turkish President Recep Erdogan during his visit to Kiev confirmed that Ankara does not recognize the annexation of Crimea and expressed support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine."
    You can also recall the South Stream, and plans for the supply of S-400, and the closure of Turkish ports for those coming from the Crimea.
    Here is such a "strange tango." But the name of Putin!
    1. +1
      16 October 2017 08: 29
      Quote: Bastinda

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      Bastinda Today, 08:10 AM New
      "On Monday, October 9, it became known that Turkey imposed restrictions on the supply of agricultural products from Russia."
      "After several warnings, the Turkish side shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber that violated the country's air borders. Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ankara’s actions a" stab in the back "and promised retaliation, but it all came down to banning Turkish tomatoes and temporarily closing tourist routes."
      "Turkish President Recep Erdogan during his visit to Kiev confirmed that Ankara does not recognize the annexation of Crimea and expressed support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine."
      You can also recall the South Stream, and plans for the supply of S-400, and the closure of Turkish ports for those coming from the Crimea.
      Here is such a "strange tango." But the name of Putin!

      but Putin’s leading there, and whoever dances the girl has her as he wants ....
      1. +7
        16 October 2017 08: 33
        What is your belief based on? Watching TV? Then yes, that's right.
        I just got the impression that the leader there is different. I do not want Russia to be in the role of a “led”!
      2. +11
        16 October 2017 09: 51
        Quote: hert
        but Putin’s leading there, and whoever dances the girl has her as he wants ....

        The main beneficiary was Erdogan. Instead of disappearing in the abyss of an unfortunate coup and in a civil war with the Kurds, Erdogan became very strong thanks to the support of Russia. He became the owner of part of the Syrian lands, beating the Kurds not on his territory, but on distant approaches ... But, despite this, those priceless gifts received from Russia (tourists, Potok, S-400, Akkuyu), he did not refuse from the idea of ​​pan-Turkism hostile to Russia (shattering the Turkic peoples around the perimeter of Russia, participation in all local conflicts, Chechnya, Karabakh ...). Therefore, who wants it or not, but in the future you will expect stabs in the back. Which can be much more painful than the destruction of our Su-24.
        1. 0
          16 October 2017 15: 47
          Are tourists also a bargaining chip? Or as you say - a gift! Great! But you are very close to the truth. It's a shame only that there are no tools to influence someone or tourists! You have all correctly noted that you and we need the flow - not an option, the S-400 grandmother divided by 2. And a tourist is power in any season - we want to give, we want not to finish. We won’t give the Egyptians, let them writhe.
    2. +1
      16 October 2017 09: 44
      For bastinda
      Turkish President Recep Erdogan during a visit to Kiev confirmed that Ankara does not recognize the annexation of Crimea

      But did Turkey give a reason for us to consider the possibility of recognition of Crimea by it? And about the sovereignty of Ukraine, the Turks are cunning. They sleep and see Crimea as Turkish. Or personally, you were expecting something else.
      You can also recall the South Stream

      And with him today, what's wrong?
      1. +2
        16 October 2017 11: 18
        "South Stream" - construction is carried out in "one gate", only from our side, to the region where there is enough nearby, and our oil and gas. Turkey is extremely unreliable partner, what will happen when the gas pipeline is completed? How will the terms of cooperation change?
        1. +4
          16 October 2017 12: 15
          Quote: Bastinda
          "South Stream" - construction is carried out in "one gate", only from our side, to the region where there is enough nearby, and our oil and gas. Turkey is extremely unreliable partner, what will happen when the gas pipeline is completed? How will the terms of cooperation change?

          For the sake of this pipe, the Kremlin got into this Middle Eastern harlot. But Erdogan is wrapping up our affairs in his favor ... And if, nevertheless, the pipe is built, then Erdogan will pull a lot of things out of the Kremlin, so Kiev thieves - blackmailers will seem like flowers ... As the late Chernomyrdin used to say: "They wanted the best but it turned out - as always "...
          1. +1
            17 October 2017 02: 12
            Quote: Fedya2017
            a region where there is enough nearby, and its oil and gas. Turkey is extremely unreliable partner, what will happen when the gas pipeline is completed?

            everything is simple, as in an apartment building, the valve turned and "there is no water"
            1. 0
              17 October 2017 12: 05
              Quote: hert
              simple

              Not just ... You need to google this topic. Learn a lot of interesting things.
        2. +1
          17 October 2017 02: 09
          Quote: Bastinda
          "South Stream" - construction is carried out in "one gate", only from our side, to the region where there is enough nearby, and our oil and gas. Turkey is extremely unreliable partner, what will happen when the gas pipeline is completed? How will the terms of cooperation change?

          however, the neighbors are in no hurry to help the Turkish people ..... they love each other very much. Here the Ottomans are running on the wrong side, and they will run for a long time
          1. +1
            17 October 2017 23: 08
            Quote: hert
            however, the neighbors are in no hurry to help the Turkish people

            The situation with the pipes generally hung ... The Turks do not move towards, like the Europeans. Ours began to be laid unilaterally, but it seems that they have already suspended this business. American and European banks refuse to allocate money, fearing Trump's new law. And they should have financed 70% of the construction cost ... The same situation is with the second branch of the Nord Stream.
    3. +9
      16 October 2017 13: 01
      Putin won because Erdogan publicly apologized (and understood how he was framed with our plane) By the way, we pressed him not so much with tomatoes and tourism as with more serious things - they kicked off a bunch of Turkish builders (firms canceled contracts), stopped the construction of the gas pipeline and NPPs and yes, they started bombing their business with ISIS, which they had covered their eyes for a while, and warned him of a coup because we had better independent Erdogan than a completely pro-American Gulen and all this is beneficial to us.
      1. +3
        16 October 2017 13: 34
        Quote: Briz
        Putin won
        ...
        Quote: Briz
        and all this is beneficial to us

        Well, well ... "Blessed are the believers."
    4. 0
      17 October 2017 12: 21
      Well, apparently there were some evil sorcerers here. Which diligently added fuel to the fire after November 25, 2015. I believe that if we didn’t have such a strong lobby of one of the former fraternal Transcaucasian republics, which relates to Turkey in much the same way as Iran now refers to Israel, our President’s reaction to the downing of SU-24 would be much more restrained.

      "Turkish President Recep Erdogan during his visit to Kiev confirmed that Ankara does not recognize the annexation of Crimea and expressed support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine."

      Well, that’s about the same in terms of the protocol when meeting or talking on the phone our official allies say: Lukashenko, Sargsyan, Nazarbayev ...
  4. +21
    16 October 2017 08: 25
    On the night of Friday the 13th, Turkish troops crossed the border with Syria and entered the province of Idlib.

    And the Syrians complain
    The latter is a strategic task for any Turkish ruler

    Why on earth do we give strategic victories to the state university - the patron of ISIS (including), the strategic opponent of Russia and the killer of the Russian pilot (an unprecedented case in the history of recent years) - I don’t understand
    1. +5
      16 October 2017 08: 46
      Because friendship with Erdogan is more important than with Assad. Assad is a puppet from which you can take land and give it to your Turkish partner.
      1. +20
        16 October 2017 08: 51
        Yes, it remains only to recall - what are friends, such and ...
      2. 0
        17 October 2017 12: 27
        Friendship is important. But Assad is not a puppet. And Erdogan constantly assures that he is for the territorial integrity of Syria. Turkey did not make any territorial claims to Syria.
    2. 0
      18 October 2017 08: 55
      Syrians may complain. But it is beneficial for them to curb the appetites of the Kurds in Syria. Even Erdogan. They Israelis hammering what they want. ISIS and Jebhat-en-Nusra are quite alive - for now, anyway. Also, the Kurds with the support of the Americans want to grab more territory and deposits. There is help and you will accept from Erdogan, albeit with reluctance.
  5. +3
    16 October 2017 09: 38
    Whatever human-like motivation is declared - national, religious .... etc. .. This region is clearly overpopulated, and there will still be a war going on like between rats in a bank.
    1. +7
      16 October 2017 12: 53
      I read reviews about this article and spruce spread over my heart! How many wise strategists we have. They would rule the country, everyone would go in brocade and velvet! With gold dishes, jamon with parmesan burst! All! From small to large! And then some Putin gets confused under his feet. It does not, you know, show genius. Byaaaaa!
      1. +2
        17 October 2017 09: 33
        To the point, colleague! And most importantly, everyone knows how to! But they don’t know how !!!!!
      2. 0
        18 October 2017 16: 31
        Sumptuously! Who like, but I will keep it as a whole. Bravo.
  6. 0
    16 October 2017 10: 49
    The Americans somehow didn’t do it at the right time ... They were gathering cheap oil from Qatar to Europe, they couldn’t move Erdogan, they wanted to drag it from Syria, they couldn’t build the Kurdish state. Coal was transported to Ukraine, and then a second dry cargo ship was dumped. They decided to build a base, now it’s not a fact that Turkey will let them through. Warships are always rammed by someone. Trump with congress in the counter. Now Macron introduces bankers.
    Everywhere their power ends with the fence of a military base or green zone. The vassals rebel not childishly.
    The Pentagon steals money, but there is no Navalny.
    In short, a political crisis .... And who knows, will one successful shot of a North Korean boy-rocket this eagle from the political firmament?
    But their comrades will definitely think about whether such an ally is needed? Because of which you can fly nuclear weapons.
    1. +5
      16 October 2017 11: 20
      The Pentagon steals money, but there is no Navalny.

      Let them take ours ?! laughing
  7. +1
    16 October 2017 11: 34
    Does the author write down the nusru in igil?
    in general, according to recent events there are more Erdogan dances. in fact, they asked him to enter the idlib, the Kurds with Assad are gathering more and more, although the entire war was at least neutral, and often allies. everything is as good as possible in Iraq - the war of the Iraques with the Kurds is about to enter the acute stage. I won’t be surprised if the Iraqi government so long demanded that the Turks leave Iraq, as a result, will itself ask them to enter there to restore the constitutional order. and I won’t be surprised if Erdogan actually pushed the barzani to his referendum, and then he pretended to say, masood, you didn’t understand me, buddy.
    1. 0
      18 October 2017 16: 26
      One gets the impression that you deigned to oversleep the entire conflict in Syria, now you have read and are trying to analyze the situation.

      How is one variety of feces different from another? Radical Islamists supported by the Saudis from radical Islamists supported by the Qatari? Is that the flag ...
      The difference between ISIS and Nusra is in what flag they fly and from whom they take money. And fso ...

      With the capture of Aleppo, the Kurds decided to fight against all, for which they paid almost immediately. When the Turks began to beat them painfully - no one intervened. Strange, huh? Now another part of the Syrian Kurds has decided to play "with the fun". Well ... But in general, the Kurds have been arguing very strangely with Assad lately. Can I have examples?

      Iraqis versus Iraqi Kurds supported by Erdogan? If they themselves want to expand the territory of Iraqi Kurdistan - for God's sake ... So that the Turks restore the territorial integrity of Iraq - what is their interest, let me ask?
  8. +3
    16 October 2017 11: 44
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: hert
    but Putin’s leading there, and whoever dances the girl has her as he wants ....

    The main beneficiary was Erdogan. Instead of disappearing in the abyss of an unfortunate coup and in a civil war with the Kurds, Erdogan became very strong thanks to the support of Russia. He became the owner of part of the Syrian lands, beating the Kurds not on his territory, but on distant approaches ... But, despite this, those priceless gifts received from Russia (tourists, Potok, S-400, Akkuyu), he did not refuse from the idea of ​​pan-Turkism hostile to Russia (shattering the Turkic peoples around the perimeter of Russia, participation in all local conflicts, Chechnya, Karabakh ...). Therefore, who wants it or not, but in the future you will expect stabs in the back. Which can be much more painful than the destruction of our Su-24.

    And our .......... nevermind in what way grandmothers earn in order to somehow relieve tension within the country! This is all the same easier than blocking, for example, the export of capital abroad, introducing a luxury tax, or combating (and not imitating) corruption in our ranks! Etc. sad
  9. +2
    16 October 2017 11: 49
    Putin’s Turkish Tango takes Trump off his feet
    Yeah, another question is someone "dancing"! As if after these "dances" Russia did not have to cry, but with "this" again complain of a "stab in the back"! recourse
    1. 0
      17 October 2017 12: 31
      Why are you crying and wailing? By the way, it is precisely the one who is on your avatar who stabbed in the back of Turkey in 1945 by presenting (with the filing of the leadership of one of the Transcaucasian republics) territorial claims of Turkey. Thus, pushing her into the arms of the United States and Britain, and then NATO.
  10. +3
    16 October 2017 11: 52
    The author wrote a lot of bukoff ... His conclusion is especially interesting that for the USA there is no place left in B. Vostok. Dear man, wake up - you only see what is on stage. But the director controls the actions of the actors on the stage ... And the director controls according to the scenario ... It does not occur to anyone that for some reason these USA are making porridge in B. Vostok, they themselves go unnoticed to the side, preferring to loosen this porridge others ?! For example, Russia ... Here you have the tango and Urrryayayaa! and "little victorious war", and "strategy in the B. Vostok."
    1. 0
      16 October 2017 13: 19
      I agree. The U.S. Army is fomenting war strictly according to the scenario. And Trump is a good actor.
  11. 0
    16 October 2017 15: 56
    It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines.
  12. 0
    16 October 2017 18: 18
    There are no friends in politics. Only mutually beneficial cooperation. For this, there is diplomacy. Everything else, "democratic", verbal diarrhea for suckers.
  13. 0
    16 October 2017 18: 46
    The USA miscalculated very much, they thought - Well, Jihad failed. We didn’t succeed in pushing the Sunnis and Shiites. Then we will go the other way, we will push the Kurds and everyone else and we will get the same, “Controlled chaos” in the Middle East, .But in fact it turned out that the previously unthinkable Shiites and Sunnis united in a powerful alliance against the currently illusive threat of the Kurds. With all the support of the United States, Kurdistan is still just a chimera.
  14. 0
    16 October 2017 21: 23
    very brave.
  15. 0
    16 October 2017 22: 14
    Quote: Briz
    Putin won.
    - here we will wait for the results of the eighteenth, then we will find out who, whom, and where ...
  16. 0
    16 October 2017 22: 35
    Quote: Radikal
    And our .......... nevermind in what way grandmothers earn in order to somehow relieve tension within the country! This is all the same easier than blocking, for example, the export of capital abroad, introducing a luxury tax, or combating (and not imitating) corruption in our ranks! Etc.

    Tyutchev F.I.
    "No, my dwarf! Coward unparalleled
    You, no matter how hard, how hard,
    With your little faith soul
    Do not seduce holy Russia ...
    Ile, all the holy hopes,
    All convictions consuming
    She from her calling
    Suddenly denies for you? ..
    Or so you are dear to providence,
    So friendly with him, so at the same time
    What, cherishing your laziness
    Suddenly it will stop? ..
    Do not believe in holy Russia, whoever wants -
    Only believe herself,
    And the god of victory will not delay
    For the sake of human cowardice.
    What is promised by fate
    She was in the cradle
    What bequeathed to her for centuries
    And by the faith of all her kings, -
    The fact that Olegov squads
    They went to mine with a sword,
    That the eagle of Catherine
    Already covered with his wing, -
    The crown and scepter of Byzantium
    You will not succeed in depriving us! ..
    The global fate of Russia -
    No! you can’t stop her! .. "
    http://stih.su/net-karlik-moy-trus-besprimernyy/
  17. 0
    17 October 2017 15: 18
    Quote: Seal
    Why are you crying and wailing? By the way, it is precisely the one who is on your avatar who stabbed in the back of Turkey in 1945 by presenting (with the filing of the leadership of one of the Transcaucasian republics) territorial claims of Turkey. Thus, pushing her into the arms of the United States and Britain, and then NATO.

    Well, it’s impossible to scribble an adish point of view so-and-so ...
    Stalin wrote to the Allies that after the WWII unfair borders were established, and there is a need for their correction. Moreover, from the alleged alienation of the Turks in 30t. sq km we wanted to return only 5t.kv.km.
    And it was not Turkey that threw itself into the arms of the United States and England (England had already not been taken into account then), and then NATO. Then they didn’t ask her ... since both the USA and the USSR could walk the rink through all of Turkey.
  18. 0
    18 October 2017 04: 15
    Quote: Aspid 57
    Not after 100, so after 1000!))))) And do not dream! Israel is developing rapidly, and the Arabs are also rapidly degrading!

    ... every Jew is an Arab, but not every Arab is a Jew ..
  19. 0
    18 October 2017 15: 10
    Quote: Fedya2017
    Quote: Briz
    Putin won
    ...
    Quote: Briz
    and all this is beneficial to us

    Well, well ... "Blessed are the believers."

    Blessed are those who mumble.
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