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The Right to Know: Dmitri Trenin

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Political analyst Dmitry Kulikov in his program “The Right to Know!” Sometimes gives the floor to interesting people like Sergey Karaganov, a Kremlin analyst. Recently Dmitry Trenin, director of the Carnegie Moscow Center, spoke, who was introduced as our “Americanist”, that is, a specialist in the United States. And there was a feeling that Trenin is also from the Kremlin pool and influences Moscow’s strategy on America. What he said did not in the least contradict the American policy of Vladimir Putin, but fully corresponded.


The Right to Know: Dmitri Trenin


In his opinion, the United States and Russia are in a state of hybrid war, and this is a completely different and more dangerous war than the cold one. The USA and the USSR did not overlap in this sense, representing different and complete systems. The United States and Russia are in the same system - in the global market and financial system, where the US is dominant. Russia defends its interests, achieves equality and undermines the global position of the United States, not obeying the market hegemon, which was not during the confrontation between the United States and the USSR.

It turns out that a year and a half ago, our Americanists could not even imagine what was happening in America. That the American elites will be in such confusion, in such chaos. Donald Trump is both terrible and terrible, but the consequences of his presidency will be significant, which are unknown. However, it is expressed confidence that all the difficulties of the United States will be overcome, because the economy is afloat, and the country's resources are large.

At the same time, our Americanist is still concerned: no matter how America collapses, “because everyone will suffer,” and Russia, too. This is where Vladimir Putin comes to mind, our correct attitude towards America, the supply of the RD-180 rocket engines, and in general, the priority of some higher relations in relations with the West. Because Russia, of course, is part of Europe, and we must be wiser.

Our not-so-distant Western colleagues have turned Putin into a certain God, omnipotent and all governor, apparently because of his nearness. In fact, our Vladimir Vladimirovich always listens to the assembly of his advisers, and, it seems, to Dmitri Trenin.

However, thanks to their wisdom, we can miss some simple stupid trick of our close partners: they will not bother much if you can cause damage to Russia. It always does. A simple question: if America recovers and intensifies, Russia will not suffer from this? - they leave unanswered. When the USSR collapsed, our Western colleagues didn’t have such fears: everyone helped him to fall.

Another question: is it really all American elites in a stupor and in chaos? Did everyone go crazy right away? And maybe it is that America is transformed, and into something exceptional, for example, neo-Nazi? If you look at the US Vice President Michael Pens, for some reason I believe in it. And I can not believe that he, and the American generals around Trump, are at a loss and in a stupor.

The third question: if our Americanists could not even imagine a year and a half ago about what is happening in America today, it means that they cannot know what will happen to the United States in another year and a half, but then where, in general, is the confidence that America will overcome everything your difficulties? Is it because Russia is still Europe?

Our Americanists repeat, after one Congressman-Russophobe, that today the “White House is a kindergarten for adults”, but this Congressman himself may be a child, and we are happy to repeat his nonsense.

Our Trenin believes that Russia will find, in the end, its place in the West, will achieve respect for its legitimate interests, in the words of our president, which we seem to achieve in spite of everything and in spite of everything. We do not give the United States quite an answer, even when it could be given, for example, in the field of space, where the United States lags behind in manned programs. We are waiting, when the United States will begin to respect our interests ...

Dmitry Kulikov, however, noted that the United States will never respect our interests, and, at the earliest opportunity, "disassemble Russia for parts." Indeed, the analytical headquarters in the United States very much regret that they missed this opportunity in the 90s of the last century, when he was President Boris Yeltsin: they were confident that Russia would collapse after the USSR. Now they are scientists ...

Therefore, it is worth considering the question: maybe it’s time for Russia to stop caring about world stability on the foundation of the American financial system and economy? Perhaps it is better to overcome the difficulties of its disintegration than other difficulties? While we are thinking about world stability, the United States is about a preventive strike: the Russian Defense Ministry said recently that the United States “have begun to create shock complexes of an instantaneous global strike. When disarming a strike against Russian and Chinese strategic nuclear forces, the effectiveness of the American missile defense system increases. ”

In general, the question of the future of our world is, of course, existential. The USSR broke out, promoting the world communist revolution in the world, the United States is now promoting a world democratic revolution, in fact, a new, Western edition of communism, ”stated A. Zinoviev, our dissident philosopher, researcher of communism and the West.

The goals of both of these revolutions, in principle, are the same: the world domination of some perfect values, born equally in the Enlightenment era and the XIX century liberalism. If the USSR ruptured, why would the United States not rupture? Two thousand years ago, a biblical analyst reported that all the builders of the towers of Babel were doomed to collapse, to “confuse languages,” that is, to an explosion of nationalism, but modern analysts, even “have ears, but they cannot hear” ...
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  1. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 17 October 2017 15: 49
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    Citizens of Russia, no less than the author of this article, are concerned with the question - why does our government with servile reverence look into the mouth of the lying Yankees, instead of building an independent economy and politics from anyone ?! We have more resources and potential than North Korea, and we behave, thanks to the authorities, as omissions.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      17 October 2017 16: 56
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      I do not agree with you, Putin’s Russia does not look anyone in the mouth, and is pursuing its own independent policy, which is why Putin enjoys such enormous and terrible prestige in the West, and especially in Washington. Vladimir Vladimirovich is cautious, feels a great responsibility behind his shoulders, therefore he is not in a hurry, he listens to all the experts, but the final word is behind him. He has no right to make mistakes, while the citizens of Russia have such a right, and use it, which is proved by your example.
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 17 October 2017 17: 52
        +9
        Did they tell you this on TV? How can a country exporting all high-tech equipment carry out an independent policy? To whom and where does Russia look in relations with Turkey? From the USA? North Korea? Stop watching TV! What is working in your city?
        1. Victor Kamenev
          17 October 2017 19: 22
          +6
          You need to look at the Internet, and include your head: if Russia can make rockets, then it can do everything, the question is in mass production, there are limitations. Russia's GDP under Putin has increased multiply, several times, the army is rearming, this is a lot, you need to appreciate it, but you don’t need to watch TV, any.
          1. Bastinda
            Bastinda 17 October 2017 19: 37
            +6
            Well, in addition to the Internet, I also go out into the street and talk to people.
            Russia knows how to make rockets
            missiles came from the USSR, now only modernization.
            Under Putin, Russia's GDP increased several times, several times
            Can I link?
            the army is rearming
            Is it possible to link? (Patrol boats, Chechen-Dagestan jeeps - not to offer.) The situation on the construction of the fleet is extremely sad. Armats are also not clear.
          2. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 17 October 2017 21: 28
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            Do not bother to explain in terms of bastinda. Typical all-crawler. You have your own position and it is much more profitable and more correct than sobs and groans. If it is more realistic to look at the world, then, from my point of view, the best thing is happening from the Russian Federation from the beginning of the 90s. And this is thanks to BB. And contrary to all the efforts and cries of the liberals. These are individuals who had previously surrendered to everyone for a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies. A bastind would be washed ... Yes, as in a well-known children's fairy tale, apparently, it’s afraid of water laughing
            1. Bastinda
              Bastinda 17 October 2017 22: 56
              +4
              But essentially? Can you tell? Here on the Internet, where everything can be checked in a minute, and not on TV? Or just an empty chatter?
        2. White and fluffy
          White and fluffy 18 October 2017 06: 37
          +3
          Bastinde
          Totally agree with you. Depends on investments, innovations, bank loans. Inland from subventions, subsidies. Regions where oil, gas., Diamonds are extracted. Diamonds are subsidized. What is ??
        3. CONTROL
          CONTROL 18 October 2017 10: 55
          +1
          Quote: Bastinda
          As a country exporting all high-tech equipment

          About the "high-tech" - has already been discussed ...
          Not a single country in the modern world - not even Russia! - alone (or, God forbid, in "sanctioned" isolation), in conditions requiring mass production of high-tech products, can not secure technological superiority in everything! In the USSR - that’s why there was “poverty with a change house and consumer goods” ... they just started to overcome, and - a bummer ...
          ... which, in fact, is used "these..."Etc.
          1. Bastinda
            Bastinda 18 October 2017 13: 36
            +3
            I agree with you. One thing, but in Boeing - 15% of export components! In MS-21, 65%, in SuperJet 100 - 85%. Official data. I will not give other positions; this is quite enough to make an impression.
      2. Stoler
        Stoler 17 October 2017 18: 37
        +4
        Well, where is the "responsibility"? Before WHOM ??? Neither "World" or "Community" ???? And the responsibility to their citizens who see how they lower below any baseboard of our diplomats ??? What is it like ??? Let them wipe their opinions ??? So what is the article wrong ???
      3. Stas157
        Stas157 17 October 2017 21: 13
        +7
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        I do not agree with you, Putin's Russia does not look into anyone’s mouth, and pursues its own independent policy

        You wrote a wonderful article where you showed that the Kremlin looks into the West’s mouth and wants to come to an agreement all the time, where it’s impossible to do it:
        Our Trenins believes that Russia will eventually find its place in the West, will achieve respect for its legitimate interests, in the words of our president, which we seem to achieve, no matter what, and against all odds. We do not give the United States a complete otvetku, even when it could
        After all, everyone understands that not only the Trenins, but the entire Kremlin elite think so. Why did you suddenly decide now that Putin has an independent policy? Independent in what? In Russia, both economics and finance are in a semi-colonial position from the West. And the Russian ruble, in turn, is printed depending on the influx of dollars, like somewhere in a banana republic! There has been no greater dependence than this hour on external forces in Russia since the time of Iga.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 17 October 2017 17: 53
      +6
      we have no potential to butt with the Saxons. there is only a nuclear club - but there is nothing else. Well, maybe the caps and our Slavic reference in a certain direction.

      The population is only 150 million against 300 in the USSR and 40 million of them are pensioners, and probably the same number of state employees, plus children, we have not mastered the critical technologies yet - but look at the situation with Opel. In addition to mechanical engineering, there are a bunch of industries in which we are shaved with the purchase of technology in the same way. We can hang a curtain, but this is not in our interests - and the Saxons from our curtain will not lose from the word at all. And we will lose. and not a little - if not all.

      In general, there are no options to rock the boat. So - at the most critical moments on which the future of our country depends.

      And to climb with bent fingers, they say we will now show you all - yeah ...

      So you would steer - and you would have information - you would do exactly the same. They would seek maximum benefit under the most miserable conditions. For pensioners need to eat. Public sector employees need salaries - but you don’t need a hungry country, holding a pitchfork and dreaming of your blood.

      Politics she is. It is not always possible to do what one wants.
      1. Victor Kamenev
        17 October 2017 19: 44
        +1
        Russia has not only a bludgeon, but also a lot of things, from aviation and nuclear submarines to "Russian hackers". We do not need to belittle ourselves, and we need to respect the enemy, which we are doing. Modern Russia is stronger than the USSR, the hybrid war with the United States speaks of this in itself. At the same time, Russia relies on all the legacies of the USSR, except for Ukraine and the Baltic states, but other allies have emerged, for example, China.
        1. Bastinda
          Bastinda 17 October 2017 20: 01
          +5
          Modern Russia is stronger than the USSR, a hybrid war with the United States speaks for itself. At the same time, Russia relies on the entire heritage of the USSR, except for Ukraine and the Baltic states, but other allies appeared, for example, China.

          Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan were also part of the USSR. The "part" cannot be greater than the whole! In 1941-1945, we fought off the EU together! With Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, etc. The United States and England were still on the side of the USSR ... But China is a magnificent ally to itself.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 17 October 2017 21: 22
          +8
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          Modern Russia is stronger than the USSR

          The USSR won the Second World War! Could modern Russia do this? I'm not at all sure. Rather, I am sure of the opposite! Who will go to bed for the oligarchs? Under the tanks? "For motherland for Stalin!" - Yes! ... But for the confused regime - no.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 17 October 2017 21: 27
            +5
            Who will go to bed for the oligarchs? Under the tanks? "For motherland for Stalin!" - Yes! ... But for the confused regime - no.


            will you go to Germany as a refugee?)

            don't upset us with Putin. Even the oligarchs will be engaged in the matter, while you will show your principles and snoop from mobilization)

            Stasyan, well, you give. It’s not at all necessary here to pour shit like that)

            you will go under mobilization with me and with the guard wassat where are you going to get to. we'll meet there. No matter how we relate to the government, everyone has their own point of view - but then it will be possible to discuss this in the trench. because everyone will be there

            and who will not - that snitch
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 17 October 2017 21: 30
              +6
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              will you go to Germany as a refugee?)
              Stasyan, well, you give. It’s not at all necessary here to pour shit like that)

              Petruha! Where did you come from? Will you be rude again for three days? Probably already rolled, as usual! So the soul rushed ...
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 17 October 2017 21: 31
                +1
                Unban just recently. but again, soon I’ll go to rest, again you see here is a naughty penitent for a Russian drinks Preved!

                And Stasyan, I told you, I have a negative attitude to alcohol. Too much to do, not enough time. alcohol is a luxury. only for special moments

                so will you be a refugee? Or what will you do when a subpoena appears in your inbox?
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 17 October 2017 21: 47
                  +6
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  so will you be a refugee? Or what will you do when a subpoena appears in your inbox?

                  Where to run that? If you want everyone to go, simple people. But what will the elite and their children do? At the first sign, all the oligarchs by private jets and slippers, in their mansions in London and Paris. Are they fools to die when something is so much looted? They didn’t earn these riches in order to die!
                  1. Bastinda
                    Bastinda 17 October 2017 22: 37
                    +3
                    Elite and kids will not go. The occupation will not be "otherwise I will also dig out my machine gun." But they can seize, financially, very well, what “our” government is very contributing to.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 17 October 2017 23: 01
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                      Quote: Bastinda
                      But to capture, financially ...

                      You certainly know the name Khodorkovsky. You also probably know who he was and he became.
                      But you are probably not quite in the subject, for what reason it has become what it has become.
                      Quote: Bastinda
                      ... may well ...

                      Could fix it. With the help and active participation of the same Khodorkovsky.
                      Quote: Bastinda
                      ... to which "our" government is very conducive

                      Yours What kind of government is this? The fact that in the Russian Federation, in something like this has not yet been noticed laughing
                      1. Bastinda
                        Bastinda 18 October 2017 00: 03
                        +4
                        Thought you believe in Great Pu? Watch TV? Do three times KU?
                        Seriously, our government (we live in one country) is very contributing, through the WTO, to the destruction of the Russian economy. What have been preserved from production in your city? Or, as they already answered me, will we sell oil and gas, and will we buy everything?
        3. zoolu350
          zoolu350 20 October 2017 08: 49
          +1
          Russia is stronger than the USSR! Thank you, laughed heartily.
      2. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 18 October 2017 08: 43
        +2
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        It is not always possible to do what one wants.

        Always, if you really want to, have a righteous goal and a worthy ideology. Examples from North Korea and Iran are quite eloquent. And so that the country does not hold the pitchfork in the hands, there must be a fair distribution of the social product, and not so that in the hands of a handful of vile creatures from among our "compatriots" were resources the size of two Russian budgets.
        As for technology ... In 1989, our technologies were in many respects comparable with Western ones, some are better, others are worse ... Who prevented them from developing and improving? And even now, if you put the economy on a mobilization track, the gap will rapidly decline. It is pointless to compare the population, because one Russian man costs 3-5 western non-humans in work and ten in battle.
        So your arguments are at least dubious.
      3. zoolu350
        zoolu350 20 October 2017 07: 38
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        Amazing! The activity of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation drove Russia into the situation you described, and you (adherents of the KhPP), instead of getting out of this wretched situation for the Great Power, you suggest folding your paws and enjoying "paradise" life under the rule of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. Well, at least our great ancestors did not listen to people like you, but boldly went into battle with the slaves of the owners of the Fed for the right to be a special civilization.
    3. SERGUS
      SERGUS 21 October 2017 11: 06
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      Quote: Antianglosaks
      why does our government with servile reverence look into the mouth of the lying Yankees, instead of building an independent economy and politics from anyone ?! We have more resources and potential than North Korea, and we behave, thanks to the authorities, as omissions.

      In the 90s, we adopted global (consider American) rules of the game, we even have a constitution that states that laws are higher than domestic, we slowly and gradually integrate into the world economy of the WTO, foreign bank accounts and all that, and the world economy works for the dollar , all of these euros, yuan, and so on - the world domination of the dollar is unlikely to be able to squeeze. Why is our power looking at the Yankees? I think the answer is this: we just overcame the 90s, our economy recovered a little bit and we, having integrated a little into the world economy, are slowly moving somewhere along its course. I think that our government understands that not everything is so good, but it (the government) simply prefers to maintain this fragile balance, to stand silently aside, than to take a step forward and challenge the American world order. We still haven’t found the brave leaders capable of this, and it’s not known whether we will emerge victorious from this, that’s why we are still, in the economy, head down in the herd led by IMHO Americans.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 11: 20
        +6
        Quote: SERGUS
        we even have in the constitution that world laws are higher than domestic

        Please show me where it is written in the Constitution of the Russian Federation (congratulations to the lie, if that).
        Quote: SERGUS
        we are slowly and gradually integrating into the global economy

        This is inevitable. The alternative is DPRK.
        Quote: SERGUS
        I think that our government understands that not everything is so good ...

        Certainly.
        Quote: SERGUS
        she (the authorities) simply prefers ... to stand silently aside

        Syria, Ukraine in its current form (there is already power in a panic, and for a long time already) - is this, you think, it happened so? Like, "from dampness"?
        Nothing so-so - "aside" belay
        Quote: SERGUS
        ... it is not known whether we will emerge victorious from this ...

        If by "this" is meant "the Russian Federation against the whole world" - then we certainly will not leave. And in the war with the use of nuclear weapons ... cockroaches will win.
        Quote: SERGUS
        we are still ... go head down in the herd led by the Americans

        Well then, they will hurt something like that about the Russian Federation? Are these the very Americans?
        Quote: SERGUS
        IMHO

        You do not make ends meet, IMHO.
        And yes - what about the Constitution of the Russian Federation? wink
        1. SERGUS
          SERGUS 21 October 2017 11: 59
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          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Please show me where it is written in the Russian Constitution

          Article 15 paragraph 4
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Syria, Ukraine in its current form (there is already power in a panic, and for a long time already) - is this, you think, it happened so? Like, "from dampness"?

          I’m talking exclusively about economics, military intervention, coups d'état do not apply directly here (to economics), read carefully, and do not pull out separate phrases, please, so that you would not tell me this later:
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          If by "this" is meant "the Russian Federation against the whole world" - then we certainly will not leave. And in the war with the use of nuclear weapons ... cockroaches will win.

          For I talked about the "war" of economies, and you are about to flee to a bomb shelter wink
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 12: 15
            +6
            Quote: SERGUS
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Please show me where it is written in the Russian Constitution
            Article 15 paragraph 4

            Deja vu ...
            Quote: Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
            4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than stipulated by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply

            If on the fingers, it means exactly the following:
            1. The Russian Federation has concluded a certain agreement with a certain country (countries). I concluded, I dare to hope, not to my own detriment, but for good.
            2. According to the rules of the contract, and exactly under this contract, gray is called red and vice versa. The Russian Federation undertakes to comply with this rule. Exactly - I repeat - within the framework of this agreement.
            3. Red from this does not turn gray in all other cases (valid Nature laws Constitution of the Russian Federation) and vice versa. /
            If this is not enough for you - read the comments on this article in the same Consultant +, for example, everything is thoroughly painted there.
            Quote: SERGUS
            I am talking exclusively about economics

            Quote: SERGUS
            ... the government ... prefers to maintain this delicate balance, stand silently on the sidelines, rather than take a step forward and challenge the American world order ...

            Are you talking about the economy ?? Well, then I don’t even know ...
            Economically, the United States with satellites is more powerful than the Russian Federation by orders of magnitude (you know what it is, probably). “Challenging” in such a situation is tantamount to a one-percent loss. Do you want to - challenge.
            Quote: SERGUS
            I talked about the "war" of economies, and you are about to flee to a bomb shelter

            You say ... slurred. And I was not going to run anywhere, for to no purpose, if that.
            Do not have a "war of economies." It is just what the current leadership of the Russian Federation is doing: for sanctions - counter-sanctions, with those wishing to cooperate (these are not necessarily countries, these may be specific firms of the countries that “fight” us, for example) - we are cooperating.
            The same Siemens somehow suspiciously quickly calmed down about the "Crimean" turbines ... why would it, I wonder?
            I now - I know, and you?
            1. SERGUS
              SERGUS 21 October 2017 14: 39
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              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I concluded, I dare to hope, not to my own detriment, but for good.

              The keywords "I dare to hope, not to my own detriment", but if without jokes: the Russian Federation can conclude an international treaty that contradicts its laws. Now, if the constitution said that the Russian Federation cannot conclude international treaties that run counter to its (Russian Federation) laws, I would agree with you that international laws are not higher than Russian ones, and since it seems to be yes and it seems to be no.
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Economically, the United States with satellites is more powerful than the Russian Federation by orders of magnitude (you know what it is, probably). “Challenging” in such a situation is tantamount to a one-percent loss. Do you want to - challenge.

              Simply, if you read the article itself, it says that if the American economic model of the world collapses, the Russian economy collapses along with it, and maybe it is time to separate from the world economy and so on. Again carefully read the article and all the comments, and do not catch some of them, because this is yours
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Economically, the United States with satellites is more powerful than the Russian Federation by orders of magnitude

              and so it is clear without your words!
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              You say ... slurred.

              Here, excuse me, I admit a mistake, I was mistaken, did not finish
              that's why we are still in economygo head down in the herd led by the Americans

              Quote: Golovan Jack
              The same Siemens somehow suspiciously quickly calmed down about the "Crimean" turbines ... why would it, I wonder?
              I now - I know, and you?

              I suspect Siemens would have gone bankrupt if it hadn’t sold the turbines of the Russian Federation, but you know, you’re the chairman of the board of directors of Siemens AG.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 15: 04
                +6
                Quote: SERGUS
                The Russian Federation may conclude an international treaty that contradicts its laws. Now, if the constitution said that the Russian Federation cannot conclude international treaties that run counter to its (Russian Federation) laws, I would agree with you that international laws are not higher than Russian ones, and since it seems to be yes, and it seems to be no

                Sophistry in its purest form. I repeat again, in a bored voice:
                Clause 4 of Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation says that if (suddenly) in one of the international treaties concluded by the Russian Federation there is a norm that contradicts (rather, even corrects) the legislation of the Russian Federation, then this rule is being implemented.
                That is, the Russian Federation, therefore, undertakes to comply with the agreements that it itself has signed.
                Which, you see, is quite normal.
                Quote: SERGUS
                if you read the article itself ...

                I read it. BSK (bullshit), IMHO.
                "If, yes, if only mushrooms were growing in your mouth ..." fellow
                Quote: SERGUS
                I suspect Siemens would have gone bankrupt if it had not sold the turbines of the Russian Federation ...

                No. But he risked losing the Russian market. Siemens, the same Japanese, "breathe in the back" literally.
                Yet simple request
                1. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 21 October 2017 15: 45
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                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  That is, the Russian Federation, therefore, undertakes to comply with the agreements that it itself has signed.

                  Well, and I say, the Russian Federation can accept international agreements even if they contradict its domestic laws, I certainly understand that in their right mind people will not accept agreements that harm the country, but all the same, humanity came up with laws, and did not hope all the time for common sense of people!
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  I read it. BSK (bullshit), IMHO.
                  "If, yes, if only mushrooms were growing in your mouth ..."

                  In general, do you think that there is no problem, globalization, America's dominance in the global economy, is everything going well? So ?
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 16: 14
                    +6
                    Quote: SERGUS
                    Well, and I say, the Russian Federation can accept international agreements even if they contradict its domestic laws

                    Not ppick up (no one kakbe imposes), but conclude.
                    For example, the
                    - something under our law is subject to tax at a rate of N percent. And the counterparty (the other side of the contract) has M percent.
                    - the contract is needed by the Russian Federation
                    - Clause 4, Article fifteen Allows (but doesn’t force, note) to conclude an agreement, within the framework of which this “something” will be taxed at a rate that is pretty and familiar to the counterparty (M%) /
                    - violate the law of the Russian Federation? Yes. Within the framework of this agreement, which they themselves signed, it is possible. For all other cases, the laws of the Russian Federation work (tax authorities, fines ... well, etc.)
                    Quote: SERGUS
                    and you are about to run to the bomb shelter

                    In yes
                    Quote: SERGUS
                    In general, you think that there is no problem

                    There is a problem, there are movements (including from the Russian Federation) towards its solution. Writing about it here now is long and, IMHO, inappropriate. Still here I just did not engage in educational program, og ...
                    Quote: SERGUS
                    Why sign agreements that contradict your own laws

                    Above answered with an example. If it still doesn’t work, that's all, I wash my hands ... completely.
                    Actually, that's all request
                    1. SERGUS
                      SERGUS 21 October 2017 16: 27
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                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      There is a problem, there are movements (including from the Russian Federation) towards its solution.

                      Yeah, most likely attempts to move!
                      In any case, I realized that you are an optimist, well, in short, you think that the glass is half full winked
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 16: 30
                        +6
                        Quote: SERGUS
                        rather attempts at movements

                        There is no movement without trying ...
                        Quote: SERGUS
                        You are an optimist, well, in short, you think that the glass is half full

                        I am an optimistic realist: I know English well (I just need to work), and I also know Kalashnikov’s assault rifle (NVP at school, service in the SA). I don’t know Chinese laughing
                2. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 21 October 2017 15: 51
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                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  That is, the Russian Federation, therefore, undertakes to comply with the agreements that it itself has signed.

                  Why sign agreements that are contrary to their own laws?
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  I read it. BSK (bullshit), IMHO.
                  "If, yes, if only mushrooms were growing in your mouth ..."

                  So you think that there is no problem, globalization, American dominance in the global economy, is everything all right? So ?
  2. SMP
    SMP 17 October 2017 17: 52
    0
    The goals of both of these revolutions, in principle, are the same: the world domination of some perfect values, born equally in the Enlightenment era and the XIX century liberalism. If the USSR ruptured, why would the United States not rupture? Two thousand years ago, a biblical analyst reported that all the builders of the towers of Babel were doomed to collapse, to “confuse languages,” that is, to an explosion of nationalism, but modern analysts, even “have ears, but they cannot hear” ...


    Amen........ good
    1. Victor Kamenev
      17 October 2017 19: 51
      0
      Two thousand years of prophecy about the Tower of Babel, this is not a pound of raisins, this is really amen: everything is predicted before us!
  3. nikvic46
    nikvic46 17 October 2017 19: 26
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    Not knowing the political "cuisine", each of us believes in those sources of information whose tendency he is to trust. For example, I don’t
    I know whether foreign missions are taxed. Not to mention economic tricks. In one room
    heating batteries warm, but in the other it’s cold. And I scold the authorities, although for every phone call I
    answer, they say in the city a big accident, and all the locksmith are busy. And so every day. But someone should check their work?
    The people are well aware that all the troubles begin with a small one, and like a snowball they increase.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 21 October 2017 11: 24
      +6
      Quote: nikvic46
      In one room, the heating batteries warm, and in the other it's cold. And I scold the authorities

      They would try to lower the air from the batteries with what to "scold representatives of the authorities". You have a traffic jam there, air.
      An armless man is worse than an aunt driving ...
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 22 October 2017 08: 34
        +1
        The armless man blew the air from the batteries, you see very smart masters, like you, set up the whole
        heating system in the house.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 October 2017 08: 37
          +7
          Quote: nikvic46
          An armless man blew air from the batteries, you see very smart craftsmen, like you, were setting up the entire heating system in the house.

          For the "armless man" - my apologies, in this case. hi

          As for "masters like me" - it's you in vain, in my field I can ... everything fellow
          Housework - a lot, that grandfather, that father knew how to work with his hands, well, and I was also taught.
          Here request
  4. 23rus
    23rus 17 October 2017 20: 07
    +1
    Even in one small organism, everything is interconnected, but in the world system ... and, moreover, everyone wants to be on top. laughing
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 18 October 2017 08: 08
      0
      and besides, everyone wants to be on top.
      Well, not always. I prefer to give this place to a lady. My business is that the "unit" was on top. And you, lady, sweat yourself)))) And the celestials will sweat?
  5. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 18 October 2017 00: 14
    +8
    Bastinda,
    Quote: Bastinda
    Thought you believe in Great Pu? Watch TV? Do three times KU?

    I do not understand what it is you. I have nothing against “Pu”, I haven’t watched telasyshr for 9 years already, I’ve never done KU No.
    Quote: Bastinda
    Seriously, our government (we live in one country) is very contributing, through the WTO, to the destruction of the Russian economy

    You probably have not noticed that for the past three years it has been laid down on the WTO with parting. So what about the WTO is better not necessary, let's talk about the treasurers, at least laughing
    Quote: Bastinda
    What have been preserved from production in your city?

    Do not believe it - everything, and even increased. Space offices - alive and well, construction - live well too, well, and the little things - the bakers and sokodelors are all different ... though - out of town there is a little town, there’s not a hundred request
    Quote: Bastinda
    Or, as they already answered me, will we sell oil and gas, and will we buy everything?

    This has been said for a long time and has long been recognized as a mistake. Even at the level of ... government belay Here you will not believe wink
  6. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 October 2017 05: 59
    +1
    They made a "omnipotent" monster from Putin (and from Russia) only to write off all their mistakes, mistakes and unpopular measures that are being taken in the West to "tighten the screws" for the population to bring the entire population of the Earth under one controlled * denominator "
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 18 October 2017 06: 41
      +7
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      They made a "omnipotent" monster from Putin (and from Russia) only to write off all their mistakes, mistakes and unpopular measures that are being taken in the West to "tighten the screws" for the population to bring the entire population of the Earth under one controlled * denominator "

      Class !!!
      All "in one bottle":
      - Putin - something like Petrushka (the doll is like that, if you remember. I put it on my hand)
      - Everyone is driven by the "world backstage"
      - ...
      Laughed with pleasure, thanks. Keep joking, you have talent good
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 18 October 2017 07: 54
        +1
        "tell jokes"? What kind of "jokes" are there ... The "skin of a wolf" was pulled on you to scare all the other "rams" to drive them into the right "stall", and you are glad to try, how can Russia go forward! ".... Well, well, continue to continue to consider politicians in the West "go near .... mi" ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 18 October 2017 09: 49
          +7
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          They pulled on you the "skin of a wolf" to scare all the other "rams" to drive them into the right "stall", and you are glad to try, how can Russia go forward! "

          Nah ... by.
          I just have a normal job, and I work normally. People like it, at least.
          Accordingly, there is no reason to whine.
          And what to sleep for a week for more than five hours is not possible - so this side effect is so simple laughing
          And I don’t give a damn about the sheep. Saliva yes
          Everyone is a ram to himself ... well, or a wolf. And the wolf, as you know, feed the legs.
          Something like that.
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 18 October 2017 08: 23
        +1
        Laughed with pleasure, thanks. Keep joking, you have talent
        But I’m not funny! Despite the fact that, often, Monster_Fat expresses the opposite point of view of mine - here I agree with him.
  7. White and fluffy
    White and fluffy 18 October 2017 06: 14
    +1
    I strongly disagree with the opinion expressed by the author of the article that the USSR collapsed due to overstraining in the US confrontation, NATO. THAT is because of = external reasons. The fifth column was destroyed; its people wanted to live in a big way. To do this, essentially making a coup. About the preemptive strike with conventional high-precision weapons that the United States is carrying against Russia. To remind once again the ruling elite of the State about a possible preventive nuclear strike. in revenge.
    all the builders of the Babylonian towers are doomed to collapse, to the “confusion of languages”, that is, to the explosion of nationalism,
    The confusion of languages ​​is not nationalism, but multiculturalism, tolerance. Instead of the normal language of each nation, a mixed one at all. Like in Ukraine surzhik.
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