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The military expert presented a version of the possible protection from the US global strike

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The expert community is actively discussing various possibilities of confronting the so-called global strike from the United States. The development of tools and methods for delivering a global strike is the basis for supporting contemporary American global politics. The opinion on this issue on the eve was expressed by the editor-in-chief of the Arsenal of the Fatherland edition, Viktor Murakhovsky, in an interview for RIA News.


According to Viktor Murakhovsky, promising Russian C-500 systems with a missile attack early warning system can be an effective means of protection against a possible American global strike.

The military expert presented a version of the possible protection from the US global strike

Photo MO RF


From the statement of the expert:
Planck set by the Americans, which was repeatedly voiced by their defense ministers, is the ability to strike anywhere in the world in less than an hour. We are already opposing this, firstly, with a missile attack warning system. Practically, we close the entire perimeter by 2020. The space train is included here, plus a system for lighting the situation — a global, say, intelligence-information network — we create at the expense of the latest technical means. And their systems are already firing, which allow to counteract such means. Probably everyone has heard about the promising universal air defense and missile defense system C-500. It will be able to successfully withstand the means of a quick global strike.


According to Viktor Murakhovsky, the C-500 will be able to defend against both existing shock weapons and advanced hypersonic missiles. In addition, it will be able to "get objects that threaten Russia, and in near space."

The basis of the American system of instantaneous global strike, according to the expert, are hypersonic air aids, including aerospace X-47, X-37 and combining missile defense systems with impact systems. These are the means that pose a real security threat to any country that the United States considers "insufficiently democratic."
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 14 October 2017 06: 06 New
    +7
    If war, God forbid tomorrow, and the C500 still undergo tests? ?? am You need to predict based on the realities of today! !! negative
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 14 October 2017 06: 19 New
      15
      Quote: Herkulesich
      If war, God forbid tomorrow, and the C500 still undergo tests?

      Tomorrow - if only because of Trump's stupidity, and so their "global" will be ready only by the year 2020. Well, here we are already warned! Surely there will be so many “surprises” from Uncle Shoigu that the mattresses will be shut up.
      1. Titsen
        Titsen 14 October 2017 07: 27 New
        +6
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Surely there will be so many “surprises” from Uncle Shoigu that the mattresses will be shut up.


        And here Shoigu, and even uncle ?!

        Relatives?

        More correct to write MO!

        Shoigu is not an independent politician, but an employee in Putin’s team, like DivanDek-Serdyukov ...
        1. Air defense SSH
          Air defense SSH 14 October 2017 16: 20 New
          +1
          The hour they set aside for their lightning strike is enough for anyone to strike back at us. We are not Yugoslavia, etc. I think pen.dos also know this and make noise only to pump out as much money as possible from their senate ...
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 15 October 2017 11: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: Air Defense SVSh
            The hour they set aside for their lightning strike is enough for anyone to strike back at us. We are not Yugoslavia, etc.


            Hmm ... Have you ever wondered why the RSD regiments and divisions began to be cut back under Brezhnev ??? And not under Gorbi and Yeltsin, as many believe ??? And how did the Pioneers combat capable destroy? Yes, the same "Well done" BZHRK, although much later ???
            Yes, just to avert the threat in the form of this - well, then it was not called - a global blow ...
            We, in Russia, unlike the USSR, do not have a single missile defense air defense system (system) ... Earlier, the position areas of missile divisions were covered by air defense divisions and brigades ...
            Now we have a missile defense belt where? That's right, in Moscow ... And then I have no confidence that with a global strike in the direction of Moscow, this belt will be able to protect it ... And that the government and the military leadership will have time to fly out and take refuge somewhere in the ephemeral by anyone and an unbreakable command post from which he will control the destruction of Omerika and the Europeans ...
            Not so simple ... You need to be a realist ... And then: some within an hour destroy Russia, others within an hour in return (!!!) destroy Omerik ... lol
            Here ... bald ... to all ... wishes ... hi
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 15 October 2017 21: 06 New
              0
              Translate into Russian - Katz offers to give up?
              The ABM belt is SPRN + YaS. And the rest of the air defense / missile defense is only for local conflicts and intimidation of the Baltic states with the Poles and the Chinese.
              As long as our nuclear weapons will be able to embed in response - there will be no global blow.
              1. weksha50
                weksha50 15 October 2017 22: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Vlad.by
                Translate into Russian - Katz offers to give up?


                Katz suggests being realistic and not being scattered by empty slogans ...
                Including, not fully understanding the essence of the capabilities of the existing “SPRN + SNF belt” and the absolute lack of understanding of what I’m talking about: that now Russia does NOT have a single air defense-missile defense system ... which the USSR had, and which in any case, it is necessary to restore, so as not to be destroyed ...
                But the existing treaties, which are strictly observed by Russia, put Russia in an extremely uncomfortable position ... We have only one (if I'm not mistaken) strong missile defense area - this is Moscow ... And the United States and NATO are deploying missile defense along the borders of Russia ...
                “Katz offers to surrender” ... Have you ever been under a sudden SNF check? And I personally - was ... It was a shame according to the results to everyone - to sailors, and aviators, and rocketeers ...
                So do not rush with slogans ... Only war will show the truth ... pah-pah-pah ...
      2. okko077
        okko077 14 October 2017 11: 57 New
        +5
        The expert is not voicing our position.
        The first step of defense is to strike by all means in the United States. They need not only to regularly remind this so that they do not have any doubts, but so that in their dreams and in reality they do not doubt it and believe in it 1% and all their pi_ndo’s times ... And the sizzling blow of retaliation , inevitable retaliation, will be inflicted no matter where their missiles fly from ....
        Let them pray and think, and until they build spaceships to escape from the destroyed planet, or rather temporarily unsuitable for life, let them think about their venture .... Let the aliens from our planet tell them how it happens ....
      3. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 14 October 2017 12: 35 New
        +2
        In my opinion, the question here is the comparative amount of S-500 and American means of attack. Will we be able to put into service by 2020 the number of systems sufficient (not for complete, it's fantastic), but for an acceptable reflection of the attack.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 October 2017 20: 55 New
          +1
          US global strike systems that will be in service in 2030
          Hypersonic drone drone scout SR 72
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 October 2017 20: 57 New
            +1
            Impact Hypersonic Drone - AHW Glider
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 00 New
              +1
              Orbital spaceship X 37
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 01 New
                +1
                HTV 2 Planning Combat Block
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 02 New
                  +1
                  X 51 Hypersonic Strategic Missiles
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 04 New
                    +1
                    ICBM and RSD air launch
    2. 210ox
      210ox 14 October 2017 06: 20 New
      +7
      That's right! By the way, there are no invulnerable air defense systems. So we’ll fight with what we have. God forbid, of course ...
      Quote: Herkulesich
      If war, God forbid tomorrow, and the C500 still undergo tests? ?? am You need to predict based on the realities of today! !! negative
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 October 2017 12: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        That's right! By the way, there are no invulnerable air defense systems. So we’ll fight with what we have. God forbid, of course ...

        Something like this. Even if we strike using the means and opportunities that are available today, this is guaranteed to nullify the United States as a state. They also know this, and therefore they simply "ponte bash", freezing out for themselves some kind of concessions from Russia. If S. Korea with its 15-20 charges and imperfect delivery systems keeps the mattresses at a distance, then what can we say about the potential of Russia. However, you can’t relax and you need to constantly improve your capabilities based on the fact that the United States is an unfriendly country that seeks to destroy Russia in any way possible (economic, political, military).
    3. You Vlad
      You Vlad 14 October 2017 06: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      If war, God forbid tomorrow, and the C500 still undergo tests? ??

      So then tomorrow C will be 500)
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 14 October 2017 08: 04 New
        +5
        I read the article and remembered my grandmother (the kingdom of heaven to her) ...

        Russia can not be defeated, this is definitely .. How many such grandmothers are all over Russia.!
        1. figwam
          figwam 14 October 2017 09: 28 New
          +1
          FSA has the idea of ​​throwing the enemy with uranium crowbars from outer space, this is one of the parts of a global strike.
        2. Dangerous
          Dangerous 14 October 2017 10: 41 New
          0
          still believe in photoshop ?? belay
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 14 October 2017 17: 04 New
            0
            I can show you the installation of how Moscow rides
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    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 October 2017 09: 58 New
      +3
      Amers now have no strength for a global strike on the Russian Federation. And we have something to defend and answer ALREADY NOW. Do not panic. The enemy will be destroyed and he will not rock the boat now.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 14 October 2017 10: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Kent0001
        Amers now have no strength for a global strike on the Russian Federation. And we have something to defend and answer ALREADY NOW. Do not panic. The enemy will be destroyed and he will not rock the boat now.

        Many in Russia have "itchy hands" stroking Kalash and all sorts of different red buttons in the taiga and bunkers on a vast territory ...
        They angered the bear, hell with the "usurious little soul" .. Revenge will be instant!
      2. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 14 October 2017 11: 04 New
        +1
        I completely agree with you (Kent0001) There are so many new air defense systems on a slippery peninsula, etc. recently sucked in, you feel like in the 80s with the prefix plus a couple of orders of magnitude.
        1. jjj
          jjj 14 October 2017 11: 50 New
          +1
          The Americans now have about 5 000 missiles, which they can simultaneously launch from different carriers on targets in Russia to destroy all strategic potential. One of the last tests was a strike on an empty Syrian airfield. The result is known. Now the Americans think what to come up with. They decided to build up power to strike a different kind already in hypersound. In theory, it looks fantastic. But what size should space blanks be in order not to completely burn out in the atmosphere?
          1. VALERIK_097
            VALERIK_097 14 October 2017 12: 55 New
            +1
            jjj-let's stop at the present day, 5000 axes are not possible to shoot down.
            But to fix the concentration of delivery vehicles is a very real task. You are a smart person, you will understand.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 13 New
            0
            Together with tactical planning bombs with a range of 560 kilometers, up to 70000 missiles can be concentrated on all their carriers.
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 14 October 2017 12: 18 New
        0
        Quote: Kent0001
        And we have something to defend and answer ALREADY NOW. Do not panic.

        Here, the CURRENT SITUATION is divided into two components -
        The strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation are today capable of "reciprocal, reciprocal, counter, preventive" strikes by forces and means that the enemy is not able to parry in any situation.

        The second component is SPRN, a national missile defense system. Able to also detect any blow in time. PRO-capable of pairing a limited strike (full salvo of one submarine).

        A statement by the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Alexander Emelyanov, on the sidelines of the first committee of the UN General Assembly, is aimed at a Western audience with the goal of conveying "our concerns" and "warning of our next steps" in eliminating the dangers that the Yankees are setting for global peace.
        What these steps may be will probably be announced soon ...
        The contours are already visible -
        3,14ndos will soon need to withdraw from the INF Treaty - on our part - the RS-28, BZHRK will go into operation
        Because we have always stated the interconnectedness of missile defense and strategic nuclear forces — withdrawal from some points of the current strategic arms reduction treaty — an increase in the number of strategic nuclear forces carriers (for the installation of the strategic nuclear forces) while maintaining the accepted limitations on the BB - 1500pcs.
  2. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 14 October 2017 06: 32 New
    17
    It is necessary to observe the schedule and deadlines for the commissioning of nuclear submarines, invulnerable to a global strike.

    It is necessary to quickly commission BZHRK, having a similar invulnerability.

    It is necessary to cover all silos with missile defense systems.

    And it is necessary that, in addition to the SPRN, the Perimeter should also work clearly.

    It is not necessary to strive for 97% (as Trump boasted) of the probability of defeat of global strike systems; it is necessary that the possibility of its application (due to countermeasures) remains a wild fantasy even in the brains of the Pentagon hawks.

    By the way, a fresh example of US vileness: Iran is required to make changes to a comprehensive plan regarding missile technologies (while there is no analogue to the NPT for missiles!), And they are developing the first strike missiles. The USA is the place where the throne of Satan stands; it's a satanic bunch. am
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 14 October 2017 07: 47 New
      0
      The military-industrial complex of America is rubbing its hands "they will again allocate money, and from the members of the NTO they will get the rent for development" There is where to profit.
  3. stayer
    stayer 14 October 2017 06: 41 New
    +3
    I don’t fully understand such a strategy. The destruction of Russia's nuclear forces will require not even thousands, but hundreds of thousands of non-nuclear missiles. Other than a nuclear explosion, there is nothing to take. And what are they going to destroy at once in the ocean of submarines?
    And the next moment, the field of disarming the Russian Federation from strategic nuclear forces, it must be captured by conventional troops. How will they do it?
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 14 October 2017 07: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: stayer
      And the next moment, the field of disarming the Russian Federation from strategic nuclear forces, it must be captured by conventional troops. How will they do it?

      With the same means that they destroy nuclear weapons, and then a ground army will go through bombed places. There will be no battle in the style of the Second World War. Most likely so. Or is there an option for easier, just buy the tip and remove the unwanted.
      1. mac789
        mac789 14 October 2017 08: 03 New
        +4
        Definitely simpler. Also tested. In Russia, it worked more than once. Pavel 1st, Nikolai 2nd, Tagged ...
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 14 October 2017 10: 43 New
          0
          About Gorbachev is understandable. And what does Paul 1 and Nicholas 2 have to do with it? More likely then, Lenin is drawn to this role.
          1. mac789
            mac789 14 October 2017 19: 24 New
            0
            The bribed elite left the king.
    2. Sevastiec
      Sevastiec 14 October 2017 07: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: stayer
      And what are they going to destroy at once in the ocean of submarines?


      Than what? Hunting boats, of course. At present, we probably have no more than three boats with ICBMs on duty at the same time, and with our multi-purpose boats, which are supposed to cover them and hunt American ones, it’s a shame: no more than FOUR pieces can go to sea on two main fleets . This, throughout the Atlantic, the Arctic and Pacific oceans and plus the Mediterranean. And when you consider that half of the available forces go out to sea, then ... you yourself understand. And the Americans, multi-purpose boats, probably dozens of six. So, I think, if it comes to the point, it will not be difficult for them to find and destroy our strategists (all two or three).
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 14 October 2017 08: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Sevastiec
        So, I think, if it comes to the point, of our strategists (all two or three)

        We are not stingy with strategists. How many nuclear submarines armed with a Mace are known to all - 4 and a half (the degree of readiness of the fourth Borea is secret). How much Blue is unknown, probably even Shoigu. Here with the hunters we are disappointed. Tyrnet says there are only five
    3. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 14 October 2017 10: 39 New
      +3
      They will not have problems with disarming the Russian Federation from strategic nuclear forces - the air defense will be suppressed by the Tomahawks, there are 2 of them. always in stock with the United States, plus attack drones, more than enough, the aircraft will go further, they have an advantage of 10 times in it, and when the air is completely controlled, the rout of ground troops is a matter of time.
      So our nuclear shield is everything.
      1. romandostalo
        romandostalo 14 October 2017 19: 45 New
        0
        Aviation needs to take off from somewhere, but why did you get the idea that European airfields will remain intact?
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 16 October 2017 09: 30 New
          0
          10 aircraft carriers + a damn cloud of NATO military bases around our country, there will be enough airfields for them, even taking into account the fact that we will destroy a part. Russia is not the USSR, we cannot produce and service such an army so much, so nuclear weapons will be our main guarantee for a long time to come. But delivery vehicles need to be developed.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 October 2017 06: 46 New
    +6
    Since Soviet times, the USSR has found its answer to all the "innovations" of Americans in the United States, and it has no analogues. On this the world rested. Today, the Americans have suffered too much and they have believed in their "power and exclusivity" are ready for anything.
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 14 October 2017 07: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Since Soviet times, the USSR has found its answer to all the "innovations" of Americans in the USSR

      Then the minds worked at home, now for many the homeland is where there is more money.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 14 October 2017 07: 13 New
        +3
        Yes, even the storekeepers on the sick leave blame.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 14 October 2017 09: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Since Soviet times, the USSR has found its answer to all the "innovations" of Americans in the United States, and it has no analogues. On this the world rested.

      And it was necessary to make several tons of nails in Selpo in orbit, you see the Yankees would now go on tsirlyah. Simple nails destroy the entire space group in a few minutes. The only evil in the nails is not “Own - Alien” Soak everyone and Vladimir Vladimirovich aliens will stop helping (this is a joke based on Western media), the spaceport for receiving distinguished guests will be closed due to impassable clouds bully
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 15 October 2017 11: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Tusv
        The only evil in the nails is not "Own - Alien"


        The only evil is that it lacks its own high-quality nails ... For a long time already ... And the Chinese bullshit bends even when it "collides" with plywood ... laughing
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 15 October 2017 12: 08 New
          +7
          Quote: weksha50
          The only evil ...

          ... that the approach with nails and other such debris in orbit does not work.
          The satellites, which are proposed to "sweep" a ton of nails, fly in many different orbits. We need very intelligent, maneuvering nails, but there are none in nature. That is not at all.
          Quote: Tusv
          Simple nails destroy the entire space group in a few minutes

          Nah ... request
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 15 October 2017 13: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            ... that the approach with nails and other such debris in orbit does not work.


            On my comment, a smiling face is standing ... lol
            Under the ... col, sir ... hi
  5. andrewkor
    andrewkor 14 October 2017 07: 04 New
    +3
    Even with the global nuclear superiority of the West over the USSR in the 50s, NATO, considering all the possible consequences, did not dare to destroy the social camp. With the current inadequacies, the devil knows what to think, but you must be prepared for everything!
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 11: 57 New
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      NATO, considering all the possible consequences, did not dare to destroy the social camp.


      That's it - the socialist camps ... The buffer was decent at our borders ... Moreover - the buffer, stuffed with not the worst personnel and weapons ...
      And now around our borders there are no buffers, but foci, eat their mother ... Everywhere you look ...
  6. vipdollar
    vipdollar 14 October 2017 07: 57 New
    +4
    Dozens of calbers versus 6000 thousand nuclear tamahawks launched at 4 AM and C 500 at once will not save Russia and NATO countries in any way. It is clear that the Strikes will be ONLY counter with guaranteed destruction of the USA, EUROPE AND RUSSIA IN MINUTES. Nato’s superiority and number of missiles doesn’t play a role in a nuclear conflict if the destruction of the United States requires only a dozen nuclear calatacks of the Russian Federation launched from the rescue submarines on duty near Cuba for 30 years, who does not know the End will be the same for everyone.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 14 October 2017 09: 34 New
      +9
      They don’t have as many tomahawks - this time. At the Tomahawks, a range of 1,5 km is two. It is impossible not to notice the launch of several thousand tomahawks - these are three. Because it’s impossible to blink, and the tomahawk is a subsonic missile, there will be more than 2 hours of time for a decision to launch an ICBM. I’m not saying that it’s impossible to launch so many missiles at the same time, and that if you draw 1 km across the borders inland, you will understand that they cannot reach the ICBM mines.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 October 2017 21: 17 New
        0
        “They don’t have as many tomahawks” There aren’t in nuclear equipment, for there are more than ten thousand cruise missiles in conventional equipment. And their number in the arsenals of the US Armed Forces is increasing every year.
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 14 October 2017 08: 19 New
    +2
    Murakhovsky, judging by his articles, a noble expert .. But nevertheless ... there is an opinion ....
    1. tchoni
      tchoni 14 October 2017 08: 20 New
      0
      But, in general, Korea in this matter will become a litmus test.
  8. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 14 October 2017 08: 21 New
    +4
    In any case, before the first strike, all interceptors, air defense and other services will be fully operational in advance, a lot of preparatory work has been done. This will not go unnoticed, and will be a signal for the impending war.
  9. ROM1077
    ROM1077 14 October 2017 08: 23 New
    +6
    nonsense ... there is no 100 percent protection ... and ss 400 can be suppressed and ss 500 too. current threat of retaliation holds back americos
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 October 2017 10: 07 New
      0
      about that and the conversation.
  10. ketchow
    ketchow 14 October 2017 12: 17 New
    0
    They say that after a nuclear war, rats and cockroaches will survive.
    So do not worry, who will recreate civilization and, most importantly, to be "experts" will be found even then.
    1. mac789
      mac789 15 October 2017 17: 26 New
      0
      After the nuclear war, rats, crows, dogs, cockroaches will survive ... And people - they don’t take these creatures.
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich 14 October 2017 14: 46 New
    +5
    If there are 1-2 sensible heads in the mattress manual, and they must be, there will be no global blow. This is the end of the world. And everyone understands this very well. Even North Korea was not intimidated, let alone Russia.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Egorovich
      If there are 1-2 healthy heads in the mattress manual, but they must be


      Imagine, Yegorovich, that they gave Shiza McCain a chair in the president’s chair ... And after all - the war will not rust at the idiot's place ... The last ... in this world ...
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 15 October 2017 12: 11 New
        +6
        It is unlikely that the President will start this war. After all, he is not the only one who decides whether or not to be, even if the leadership of the mattress is "undead" McCain.
  12. paxil
    paxil 14 October 2017 17: 01 New
    0
    Yes, this is again a big bluff, like the famous SOI. Why didn’t they hit North Korean missiles over Japan?
  13. armourer
    armourer 14 October 2017 18: 26 New
    0
    I think so, if the answer flies to them, then it will not be important
  14. Lelek
    Lelek 14 October 2017 18: 41 New
    0
    (The basis of the American system for delivering an instant global strike, according to the expert, is air hypersonic equipment, including X-47, X-37 aerospace vehicles and combining missile defense systems with strike systems.)

    There is an adjustable wrench on every nut.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Lelek
      There is an adjustable wrench on every nut.


      That's all - scarecrows at the level of the yard punks of the 60-70s ... "What are you?" - "And what are you?" - "That's how I give!" - “Well, give it!” ... “Yes you go!” ...
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 15 October 2017 17: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: weksha50
        It's all scarecrows


        This is called the Cold Hybrid War. Only she would not have grown into an arms race. It is necessary with cold head to continue the rearmament of the army, not being fooled by the provocation of the West.
        And 5-6 speed max is impressive.
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 15 October 2017 22: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          This is called the Cold Hybrid War. Only she would not have grown into an arms race.


          They achieve this ... We (the Russian Federation) at this stage simply will not master it ... Therefore, it is surprising when they start yelling - for some reason they have moved, then they have moved it ... Profuche all backlogs when sharing the USSR, and then, without hesitation , they lived for a long time ... And now ... That money, specialists, technologies and opportunities, as the USSR does not have ... And we want to survive - we need to restore it ...
          We are talking about protection from the US global blow ... Here, before the elections, we will have to defend ourselves from another ... The US Congress will begin to wool billions and trillions of grandmothers of “our servants of the people”, so in order to protect their grandmothers, WHO can cause an internal global blow ...
          There you have it, hybrid war ... We are waiting for a global blow with the Tomahawks, and here we’ll get our own, “Racean”, ax with a splitting ax on the head of the kaaak ... negative
          We must prepare a team with a sailor Zheleznyak ...
  15. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 14 October 2017 19: 02 New
    0
    The strategy of a retaliatory nuclear strike against the United States and Europe, in my opinion, will be different. In Europe (EU), missiles with nuclear warheads will be hit by air defense systems and all that rockets can launch from and strategic bombers take off. This will be enough to destroy the EU cities with nuclear clouds.
    We will not have time to destroy military facilities in the USA. Therefore, 90% of our nuclear shells should be directed to US cities.
  16. Old26
    Old26 14 October 2017 21: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: Leonid Dymov
    We will not have time to destroy military facilities in the USA. Therefore, 90% of our nuclear shells should be directed to US cities.

    In addition to the mines, there are also air and naval bases, defense industry plants, power plants, large transport hubs and, of course, cities. And the mines - yes, they will be empty

    Quote: Gormengast
    We must comply with the schedule and deadlines for the commissioning of nuclear submarines, invulnerable to a global strike ..

    Alas....

    Quote: Gormengast
    It is necessary to quickly commission BZHRK, having a similar invulnerability ..

    Does the BZHRK have invulnerability similar to boats? Well, you are fantastic, my friend

    Quote: Gormengast
    It is necessary to cover all silos with missile defense systems ..

    Even such a rich country as the United States would go bankrupt if they cover every silos with a missile defense system. May God grant us to restore at least the old missile defense system of the Moscow region in full. And to cover so many mines - at least 130 - HZ will need how many missile defense systems

    Quote: Gormengast
    And it is necessary that, in addition to the SPRN, the Perimeter should also work clearly.

    And what, does the system fail? And the complex of missiles "Siren" removed from duty?

    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    In my opinion, the question here is the comparative amount of S-500 and American means of attack. Will we be able to put into service by 2020 the number of systems sufficient (not for complete, it's fantastic), but for an acceptable reflection of the attack.

    Of course no...

    Quote: Tusv
    How many nuclear submarines armed with a Mace are known to all - 4 and a half (the degree of readiness of the fourth Borea is secret).

    And what is the secrecy of the degree of readiness No. 4? He was not launched, although he was supposed to be launched in May. so that the boats armed with the "Mace" are exactly 3. "half" - the experimental "Dmitry Donskoy" has only a couple of mines with the "Mace",

    Quote: Tusv
    How much Blue is unknown, probably even Shoigu.

    Again conspiracy thesis? Look in open materials that now out of 6 boats of Project 667BDRM in service - 5, one in a scheduled repair. What a secret, especially for Minister of Defense Shoigu.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 07 New
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      Quote: Old26
      In addition to the mines, there are also air and naval bases, military-industrial complex factories, power stations,


      Put power plants out of action - and, in practice, Omerike kirdyk ... If not in all, then in many ways ... hi
  17. Maz
    Maz 14 October 2017 22: 03 New
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    Water, a lot of water.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 14 October 2017 22: 42 New
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    I always remember that Gagarin defended his thesis on reusable ships. What can be further suggested does not fit in my imagination, the government would be supportive of R&D. Not for nothing is Lefty our fabulous hero, although not fabulous ......... ...........
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 October 2017 02: 25 New
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    Balabol. A ticanderogue in one salvo can launch more than a hundred missiles. Plus sub, plus what else.
    We can bring down the first wave, and then what?
    I do not think that the same Shell or C-40 can be recharged as an AK.
    So here I would put more on our electronic warfare systems.
    And then, at the first launch in our direction, we immediately put something in their direction.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 15 October 2017 05: 12 New
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      Quote: Zomanus
      So here I would put more on our electronic warfare systems.

      I would not bet on complexes, but would put on the adequacy and determination of the Russian leadership. I already somehow answered that doubts tear me apart. And now I can assume that when all kinds of things begin to tear off the tricolors in the Kremlin, those sitting in it will call the children of diplomats to the Christmas tree.

      The essence of Russian politics should be that no one would even dare to launch something towards Russia ... unless ... balloons ... laughing
  20. weksha50
    weksha50 15 October 2017 11: 14 New
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    "Probably everyone has heard about the promising universal air defense and missile defense system S-500. It will be able to successfully withstand the means of rapid global strike.".

    By 2020, the SPRN will close the entire perimeter of the country ... the S-500 and much more will be ready by 2020 ... And about that - out loud, under fanfare ... But this will be in 2-3 years ... And how much time will actually take to produce military equipment, deliveries to the troops, training personnel, "working out-implanting" into the general system ... And so on, and so on, and so on ...
    And no one takes into account the fact that the United States can strike a global strike now ... As evidenced by the developed missile defense system in Europe, the deployment of armored forces there and the replenishment of tactical nuclear weapons with new air bombs ...
    Maybe you need to be more careful both with forecasts and with the new military equipment being developed by us? Who needs it - intelligence, the NS Committee (for them) and the General Staff (for us) know all or very much of what the enemy is doing ... So let them work out a reaction ...
    And so, articles of this kind are designed ... I don’t even know who ... In general, to convince, to stupid the population that we all ... boor .. we will give ... a rebuff ...
    I don’t know, I don’t like such forecasts ...
    The states, having the opportunity to deliver this global blow, would have dealt it long ago, especially when Putin had just launched the axis of counteraction from the "love" of opposition ... However, if they were sure of the invincibility of this global blow ... And after all - they’re not sure ... So - bz .... ugh ... are afraid ...
    That’s what you need to do to be afraid, and not to try in vain at all angles about WHAT WE WILL DO ... hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 October 2017 11: 32 New
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      S 500 S will be - to cover only Moscow and the industrial central region of Russia.
  21. Jentos69
    Jentos69 15 October 2017 12: 19 New
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    What kind of war? Are you laughing They don’t have the guts to do it! To begin with, we have a system like the Perimeter. And then .... It’s even funny to continue so sleep well.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 October 2017 17: 18 New
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      We didn’t have the guts: in 2014, to send troops to the Donbass to prevent attacks on the LDNR by the Natsiks and the Armed Forces, in 2015 to answer Turkey to the downed Sushka, to shoot down the cruise missiles that the US Navy launched on the Syrian airfield - so we have problems with the spirit, politics The tail of the tail continues.
  22. Jentos69
    Jentos69 15 October 2017 12: 21 New
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    Quote: weksha50
    "Probably everyone has heard about the promising universal air defense and missile defense system S-500. It will be able to successfully withstand the means of rapid global strike.".

    By 2020, the SPRN will close the entire perimeter of the country ... the S-500 and much more will be ready by 2020 ... And about that - out loud, under fanfare ... But this will be in 2-3 years ... And how much time will actually take to produce military equipment, deliveries to the troops, training personnel, "working out-implanting" into the general system ... And so on, and so on, and so on ...
    And no one takes into account the fact that the United States can strike a global strike now ... As evidenced by the developed missile defense system in Europe, the deployment of armored forces there and the replenishment of tactical nuclear weapons with new air bombs ...
    Maybe you need to be more careful both with forecasts and with the new military equipment being developed by us? Who needs it - intelligence, the NS Committee (for them) and the General Staff (for us) know all or very much of what the enemy is doing ... So let them work out a reaction ...
    And so, articles of this kind are designed ... I don’t even know who ... In general, to convince, to stupid the population that we all ... boor .. we will give ... a rebuff ...
    I don’t know, I don’t like such forecasts ...
    The states, having the opportunity to deliver this global blow, would have dealt it long ago, especially when Putin had just launched the axis of counteraction from the "love" of opposition ... However, if they were sure of the invincibility of this global blow ... And after all - they’re not sure ... So - bz .... ugh ... are afraid ...
    That’s what you need to do to be afraid, and not to try in vain at all angles about WHAT WE WILL DO ... hi

    Funny to read, garnslovo.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 13: 16 New
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      Quote: Jentos69
      Funny to read, garnslovo.


      I tried for you ... A minute of laughter prolongs life by almost an hour ... laughing hi
  23. Old26
    Old26 15 October 2017 16: 20 New
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    Quote: weksha50
    Put power plants out of action - and, in practice, Omerike kirdyk ... If not in all, then in many ways ...

    So it is valid in relation to other countries. Take the same Rostov region. Rostov NPP plus Tsimlyansk reservoir. Water will also wash off Novocherkasskaya TPP. So the whole region, if not without energy, then most
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 17: 24 New
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      Quote: Old26
      So it is valid in relation to other countries.


      Hmm ... I regretted that I did not insert this phrase - in the afternoon ...
      In order to conquer a more or less civilized country, it is not necessary to slaughter it with nuclear and other weapons ... Power plants are out of order - and many consequences are observed that many "civilized" people will not survive ...
      As for the reservoirs ... Somewhere in the mid-80s there was a sudden check of the nuclear triad ... Our 10th Guards RD came from the Strategic Rocket Forces ... Then we carried the OS regiments and the BJRK regiments were assembled ...
      Well, we’re “fighting” ... The commission from us was headed by Colonel General Kochemasov ... Well, it gives an introductory note that a 20-kt strike was struck by tactical aircraft from Germany on the dam of the Kostroma reservoir ... Well, there are fussing , the head of the engineering service, together with the CD begin to report on the possible restoration of the position area ...
      Kochemasov listened attentively with his “lads” and then asked the question: “What kind of recovery can we talk about when a tsunami of 12-14 meters high swept through the position area of ​​the taxiway?” ... If we have enough swamps in the dry season ...
      So it’s not necessary to strike purely at military or political-administrative centers ...
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 15 October 2017 19: 38 New
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    A hypothetical case to prove the proverb "The best defense, this attack!"
  25. the same doctor
    the same doctor 16 October 2017 08: 57 New
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    All bullshit. No defense can be effective with the size of our country and the number of offensive weapons in the United States. we must not follow the stereotypes imposed on us by the States and consider defensive weapons to be more moral than offensive. Our task is to prevent an attack on our country.
    .
    Our real defense is the willingness to bombard the territory of the aggressor with atomic bombs, like peas. Resistance against BSU can only be ensured by increasing the number of probable goals for it: we need to withdraw from the SALT-START treaties in order to be able to deploy additional light monoblock ICBMs in a mobile version and, more importantly, hide existing ones among hundreds of false positions and thousands of civilian objects.
    .
    In order to increase the number of BSU targets to an unacceptable level, the size of the submarines and the number of missiles on them are expected to decrease. In the limit - an electric submarine with a single missile and a crew of three, floating in a protected position area and recharging from the uterus ... It should not float.
    .
    Similarly in aviation: reducing the size of the electronics allows you to suspend a monoblock ballistic missile that reaches the United States under any fighter.
    .
    As a result, the number of goals for BSU will exceed 10 (now they are no more than 000 due to START restrictions). They will need to be looked for among thousands and millions of false targets (now, due to inspections, real camouflage is impossible). A retaliatory strike will be guaranteed and the BSU concept will repeat the fate of the SDI.
    .
    Another point. If earlier we believed that the war after the global exchange of nuclear strikes would end along with life on Earth, today the warheads on the carriers are too few to completely destroy the aggressor, and the distributed potential of the BSU survives in most cases. We should expect striking strokes for every move, even civilian and civilian, after the first strike. And the missile defense potential will already be used up or destroyed.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 October 2017 10: 35 New
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      Suppose strategists have never been held for pacifists.
      There will be an order or a need and they will fly darling to crush the adversary !!!
      We can and will have to retaliate when the country is already on fire !!!
      Revenge will be quick and scary !!!
  26. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 16 October 2017 09: 08 New
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    It is good that Russia has a plan for countering the US, development, and so on. The whole question is how many RF S-500 systems can be installed by 2020-2022? In any case, the United States itself set such timelines.