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Borodino-2There were French people who did not like tsarist Russia. We are talking about famous historical figures who made big politics. We have read, watched, heard a lot about them and we know that some even tried to frighten Russia and force it to act in its own interests. Among these desperate brave men were two French emperors - the famous Napoleon I, as well as his nephew Napoleon III, who declared war on Russia in 1854.


Someone from the French did not like Soviet Russia. There were especially many of them, and I don’t see anything surprising in that: fundamental ideological contradictions, an irreconcilable “class struggle” and, in the end, a matter of taste. Much has been written about this era too, but the fact that thousands of French volunteers fought on the side of the Nazis in the USSR during the Second World War came as a complete surprise to me. And rather unpleasant.

And my Russian colleague, like me, who had studied French and worked with him for many years, did not want to believe it at all, in spite of irrefutable historical material. Here we did not expect this from the French! As children, they reveled in “The Three Musketeers,” “The Count of Monte Cristo,” and “Captain Sorvi-Head,” and then listened to, read and watched films about pilots from the Normandy-Neman regiment, the Resistance Movement, the fearless poppies and the glorious General de Gaulle. And then some ...

It is clear: in any country, even a very cute and advanced country, there is a percentage of freaks capable of any vileness. We, for example, were Vlasov. But still sorry for the French. And the over-active, but extremely delicate Soviet propaganda diligently kept silent about this fact. And not only this one. Such is it, big politics.

The fact that in the late thirties the French did not want to fight the Germans, despite the capture of the last parts of Europe and even the declared war, - all right! That their beloved France surrendered to them after six weeks of formal defense was their business! That many of them worked hard on the conquerors is also understandable, although this is not only their business. But that, on top of that, they flooded with the company of the fascists in Russia, which did nothing wrong with them, this is too much, monsieur.

DOCUMENTS ARE WITNESS

Historical documents show that in the 1941 year, together with the Germans, the so-called Legion of French Volunteers was advancing on Moscow. The commander of this unit, Colonel Labonn, swore an oath to Hitler on the sword of a German general.

Later, the short-sighted Labonn was sentenced to life imprisonment, but then, on 1941, he, full of ambitious hopes, was diminishing along with his legion from the East Station of Paris to a distant, unknown Russia. Their train was written with unambiguous slogans: “Heil Hitler!” And “Long live France!”.

Pleasant-looking young people, with cheerful faces, clusters protruded from the windows of the carriages just above the inscribed words “Long Live the French Legion!”, Not knowing that few of them will have to live in the very near future. Judging by their age, if some of them had to fight, then only in Africa or Indochina against unorganized and poorly armed Aboriginal people. And, fooled by fascist propaganda, they expected to meet something similar in ours.

The second, from the time of Napoleon, the French attempt to conquer Russia brilliantly illustrated Hegel's words: "History repeats itself twice: the first time as a tragedy, the second as a farce." In 1812, there was no doubt a tragedy for both sides. The French venture of 1941 of the year became a tragic farce, more affecting the aggressor than defending.

To begin with the fact that this time only 2,5 of thousands of French arrived in Russia, and not hundreds of thousands, as under Bonaparte. Then the French brought the Germans with them - now the opposite. Now the French warriors had a second-rate Wehrmacht form, and only a rag tricolor on the sleeve and the same blue-white-red banner of the unit indicated their national identity. Well, the language, of course.

In the ugly overcoats and huge mittens, with scarves tied to the head, in order not to freeze the ears and the latest brains, they looked more like deserters or vagrants than conquerors. Interestingly, the French legion, or rather the regiment, was the only foreign unit in the Wehrmacht that was advancing on Moscow in the 1941 year. Undoubtedly, a sign of special trust!

ON FOOT TO MOSCOW

However, the Germans treated the French without much respect: they brought it to Smolensk, unloaded it from the train and sent it on foot to Moscow, deciding that it was too much honor to carry them. Trampled under Napoleon - trampled under Hitler. Only four hundred kilometers away! And let them say thank you, that they go not with fights, but across the occupied territory.

The head of the collaborationist government of France, Marshal Petain, who also did not love Russia, sent inspired words to the “legionaries” about military honor, fame and valor. But that was not up to high matters. The outfit donated by the Germans turned out to be too light and of poor quality for the harsh Russian autumn, and as a result of the 400 heat-loving French - the sixth part of the “legion” - never reached the front line. I wonder how much they would have fought?

In general, the story was repeated. This was also noted by the German generals. Those of them who survived until the end of the Second World War wrote in their memoirs that, as they attacked Moscow, they regularly looked at Napoleon’s diaries and found out with dismay that during the 1812 campaign of the year, the same misfortunes and problems lodged the French as 1941 Germans in XNUMX. And even then, in their graying heads, a melancholy thought sat down that this Russian campaign would most likely end in failure.

But the Fuhrer drove them forward, and they went. And they dragged the troops of their European vassals.

Finally, the French “legion” united with the Germans advancing on Moscow. By that time, the radiant smiles with which they were leaving Paris had already disappeared from the faces of the volunteers. The brave merry men lost them on the road, looking at the places of recent battles, at the ground exploded by the explosions and at the ruined armored vehicles. Now they were tormented by a heavy feeling that the greatest troubles would begin for them right now.

And they were not mistaken. It is amazing how pathetic little soul, what wretched brains you need to have in order to fight on your own will on the side of the monster who captured and humiliated your beautiful, freedom-loving homeland? To fight for those who shortly before this, in World War I, shed so much French blood!

Nevertheless, these were found. With these human garbage, the Germans gladly shut up the gaps in dangerous areas of the front, and when they found themselves on the sacred Borodino field, for the first time, the French were granted an “honorable” right for an adult to fight with the Red Army. That is, threw them into a full fight.

DEFLECT

The participant of this sacrifice, the Chief of Staff of the Wehrmacht 4 Army Günther Blumentrit, wrote in his memoirs how Field Marshal von Kluge, commander of the same army, tried to cheer up sad foreigners before the battle, telling how in 1812 their ancestors won a “great victory” here over Russian troops.

How this “victory” ended, he did not recall, and the next day the French again, like 129 years ago, moved along the Borodino field to the positions of our troops ...

Historians still argue over who won the first battle of Borodino, Napoleon or Kutuzov, but this time there were no such questions. After the re-Borodin, the remnants of the French Legion, stupefied, maimed and contused, were sent outside of Russia, never to fight the Red Army again.

In addition to the disgraceful defeat of the “legion”, their masters, the Germans, gave their assessment of the actions of the French volunteers near Moscow: “... Their level of combat training is low. The sergeant staff ... does not show activity, since the senior staff does not show effectiveness. The officers are not capable of much and were clearly recruited according to a purely political principle. ” And in the end - a disappointing outcome: "The Legion is not capable of action."

However, later one of the French “conquerors” who had survived then was awarded an honorary award from the hands of Hitler himself. True, it happened in the 1945 year, in a Berlin bunker, on the eve of the German capitulation. With a high reward, the lucky one didn’t manage to walk, but it was possible to sit for a considerable number of years.

After visiting the Moscow region, the surviving "legionnaires" found themselves in Poland, where they came to their senses for a long time, were treated and re-staffed. Then they were sent to Ukraine and to Belarus to fight the partisans. For their zeal for their commander, Edgar Puo, he received two iron crosses from the Germans. But this did not help the “gallant” French legion, because in November 1944, it finally ceased to exist.

However, there were other French units that fought on the German side in World War II. The so-called Perrot Group of 80 volunteers fought with their fellow partisans in the north of France.

The German division of special purpose "Brandenburg" included a company of the French, located at the foot of the Pyrenees and also fought with poppies. Posing as a detachment of the patriotic resistance movement, this company cracked down on partisans and underground fighters, intercepted their transports with weapons and participated in the battle for Vercors, a mountain range in the Alps, where anti-fascist guerrillas were destroyed around 900.

Thousands of Frenchmen served on the Kriegsmarine - naval navy The Third Reich, where they also wore German uniforms, without additional patches. Why these empty formalities with tricolors?

But the 33-I Grenadier SS division "Charlemagne" ("Charlemagne") turned out to be the most "famous" division of the French volunteers. In February, the 1945 of the Germans threw it under the rink of the 1 of the Belarusian Front, and the remaining scraps were sent to defend Berlin. There, at the Reich Chancellery, the Soviet troops finished them off completely, together with the same Scandinavian volunteers from the SS division Nordland.

Then only a few dozen Frenchmen survived. Most of them were executed by their fellow countrymen from Fighting France, the rest received a long prison sentence. Quite a logical ending. This is what it means to not have your own head and fall under the influence of improper propaganda.

POWER IS IN THE TRUTH

In difficult, critical moments, people with weak mind and spirit cling to someone who looks the strongest, not realizing that strength is in truth, and it is not always immediately visible. A little later, someone might suddenly appear more abruptly, and the one they pinned their hopes on will disappear. And then they will have tight.

It is not known how many French volunteers fought against the USSR, but there were more than 23 thousand in their Soviet captivity. An impressive number.

They also fought against the Anglo-American troops, including in North Africa, for which London and Washington were already going to rank France in Hitler’s camp and occupy it with all the ensuing consequences.

Only a decisive position and the post-war prestige of Stalin allowed France to become one of the victorious countries in World War II, with which Field Marshal Keitel, who came to the signing of the German surrender, was very surprised: “How did they beat us ?!”

Charles de Gaulle was well aware of what would have happened with his country if not for the USSR, and he was perfectly aware of what Churchill would have billed France if not for the intercession of the Soviet leader. Therefore, it is not surprising that during his visit to Moscow, already after the “personality cult”, de Gaulle asked Khrushchev to take him to Stalin’s grave and stood around her for more than an hour.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 14 October 2017 07: 11 New
    +8
    the extremely delicate Soviet propaganda diligently hushed up this fact. And not only this one. Such is she, big politics.
    ... On the principle of who remembers the old .... But in vain, it was necessary to remind ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 October 2017 13: 18 New
      +6
      De Gaulle is probably the last Politician, and independent, in old Europe ..
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 14 October 2017 14: 52 New
        +3
        Charles de Gaulle was well aware of what would have happened with his country if not for the USSR, and he was perfectly aware of what Churchill would have billed France if not for the intercession of the Soviet leader. Therefore, it is not surprising that during his visit to Moscow, already after the “personality cult”, de Gaulle asked Khrushchev to take him to Stalin’s grave and stood around her for more than an hour.

        -IVS tore a piece from Churchill's hands !! not only assistance to the countries of people's democracy - and such assistance in the collapse of the Brit empire came in handy. Spray the power of the colonizers.
        Fr always and now has a special account with our Foreign Ministry.
  2. bionik
    bionik 14 October 2017 07: 27 New
    10
    Their train was filled with unambiguous slogans: "Heil Hitler!" and "Long live France!"
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 14 October 2017 07: 37 New
    +6
    The author is naive as an elementary school student in her ignorance. It is enough to give the request “The composition of prisoners of war in the USSR” and everything will become clear. Even the Roma are more than the Norwegian Aryans !!! I counted 24 nationalities, Napoleon and even less mobilized against Russia!
    1. Curious
      Curious 14 October 2017 10: 12 New
      10
      Reading the article, the definition immediately comes to mind - the institute - "inexperienced, naive, not familiar with a girl."
      Nazi sentiment in France was strong even before the war. On February 6, 1934, for example, a coup attempt was made. then up to 40 activists of right-wing organizations took to the streets of Paris. French People’s Party, Francist Party, Social Revolutionary Movement for National Revolution, National People’s Unity, French League, Party of National Communists ...
      It is no coincidence that in France, the collaborationism of the Second World War is still the subject of an “oral civil war” and serious disagreements among the elite.
      First, after the expulsion of the Nazis from France, more than 7 thousand people were sentenced to death for collaborating with the Nazis. About 10 thousand people were executed by local authorities or members of the resistance. Collaborationism has been condemned. Marshal Petain, who led the French government during the occupation, was also sentenced to death, but De Gaulle himself changed the old Marshal's sentence to life imprisonment.
      But six years later, the Association for the Protection of the Memory of Marshal Petain already appeared in France, which claimed that everything was not as straightforward as the victors in World War II want to present, that Petain and his comrades saved France during the war .
      For all that, Patan was credited with anti-Semitism.
      Current supporters of the French nationalist leader Le Pen are inclined to justify the Vichy. And they urge not to consider French collaborators as traitors and traitors.
      Many famous French collaborated with the Nazis. some are very "tight".
      Coco Chanel was the mistress of the attache of the German embassy, ​​Baron Hans Gunther von Dinklage, perhaps worked for German intelligence.
      The writer Chateaubriand glorified the "moral beauty of surrender" and urged the French to unconditionally cooperate with the Nazis, because the Germans give the French the opportunity to "be free with them and become liberators of the colonies and slaves."
      All French units in the Wehrmacht, SS, Krighsmarin, Todt organization, etc. can be viewed in detail at http://www.pomnivoinu.ru/home/reports/1844/.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 14 October 2017 12: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Curious
        Many famous French collaborated with the Nazis. some are very "tight".

        And even the former French Communists. “The initiative to form the legion came not from the Vichy government, but from the Nazi parties in Paris, who had forgotten about their civil strife and created a united Organizing Committee. The most famous leader of the French fascists, Jacques Doriot [3], became the main sergeant in LVF.
        Jacques Doriot (1898–1945) is a former member of the Executive Committee of the Comintern and secretary of the French Federation of Young Communists. In 1934 he founded and headed the People’s French Party (Parti Populaire Francais, NFP). He died in February 1945 - approx. scientific Ed. "
        1. San Sanych
          San Sanych 14 October 2017 14: 50 New
          +5
          In many cities in France, at the door of the commandant's offices of the German occupation forces, advertisements were often posted: "We no longer accept denunciations." A very eloquent fact. And it’s worth noting that not only the French, but also the rest of Europeans, were more willing to fight under the banners of Hitler than against him
      2. motorized rifle
        motorized rifle 14 October 2017 14: 58 New
        +2
        Lost Lieutenant Cousteau Jacques Yves.
        1. Curious
          Curious 14 October 2017 15: 06 New
          +1
          Is there a link to something?
    2. hohol95
      hohol95 14 October 2017 21: 10 New
      +2
      From July 1941 to June 1944, 13 people applied for French volunteers to join the Legion, but no more than half were accepted into the Legion: the rest were weeded out by German doctors. The structure of the LVF also included those former French prisoners of war who preferred war on the Eastern Front to camps and forced labor. The first batch of Frenchmen arrived in Poland in September 1941 - out of 2,5 people they formed the two-battalion French infantry regiment 638 under the command of Colonel Roger Labon. The French wore a Wehrmacht uniform with a blue-white-red stripe on the right sleeve. The banner of the regiment was also three-color, orders were given in French.
      On November 5, 1941, Marshal Petain sent a message to the French volunteers: "Before you go into battle, I am glad to know that you do not forget - you own part of our military honor." The battalions left Debo on October 28 and 30, 1941, the first battalion was commanded by Captain Leclerc, then commander de Planar, and the second battalion was commander Girardot. The battalions arrived in Smolensk, from where on November 6 they went on foot to the capital of the USSR.
  4. moskowit
    moskowit 14 October 2017 07: 39 New
    +5
    On this topic, but in more detail and in full, the material of Alexander Samsonov was exhibited in the 2011 year. On the highly respected site "Military Review" under the heading "History" .... Interested in sincerely advise those interested ...
    "... Unknown France: the French against the USSR during the Great Patriotic War

    12 July 2011 "
  5. Amurets
    Amurets 14 October 2017 07: 46 New
    +5
    Historical documents show that in the 1941 year, together with the Germans, the so-called Legion of French Volunteers was advancing on Moscow. The commander of this unit, Colonel Labonn, swore an oath to Hitler on the sword of a German general.

    Not only documents, but also books: Carlos Caballero Jurado. A small brochure Foreign volunteers in the Wehrmacht. 1941-1945
    During the Second World War, a fairly large number of foreigners served in the German army, naval and air forces. Anti-communism was the most important reason for having so many volunteers put on the German uniform. This book is devoted to the study of foreign volunteers in the Wehrmacht and pays special attention to their uniform, insignia and organization. The book details such formations as the Walloon Legion, LVF, Eastern Legions, Balkan volunteers, Heavis, Kalmyk, Cossack, Baltic, Russian and Ukrainian volunteer legions.
    The text is accompanied by unique photographs. Color illustrations are prepared on the basis of wartime documents and give an accurate idea of ​​the characteristic elements of the uniform of foreign Wehrmacht units.
    The book is addressed to a wide circle of readers who are interested in the history of the army and military uniform. "
    Beida. O.I. The French Legion in the service of Hitler.
    Well, in the 60s, books about partisans and memoirs of partisan commanders: D. Medvedev, Lukin, Fedorov, Kovpak, Vershigory, and many others were popular among young people. And already at that time, they were not particularly silent, but did not advertise that our partisans had to fight not only with the Germans, but also with representatives of other peoples of Europe. And they fought voluntarily. Therefore, I provided links to these books.
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 14 October 2017 10: 08 New
      +7
      This was the second invasion of the “twenty” languages, as during Napoleon, and in fact all of Europe fought with us
  6. X
    X Y Z 14 October 2017 08: 10 New
    +7
    In childhood, they reveled in “Three Musketeers”, “Count of Monte Cristo” and “Captain Rip Head”, then they listened, read and watched films about pilots from the Normandy – Neman regiment, about the Resistance Movement, about fearless poppies and glorious General de Gaulle.


    Absolutely right! It was our world, our France, our French, our Paris. Then, having matured, it turned out that all this is a mirage. The resistance was, alas, not as massive as we drew it. Paris turned out to be a cold, cosmopolitan city that had nothing to do with the imaginary, and photos from Paris captured by the Germans were simply shocking. And the French themselves revealed such negative traits of a national character that they immediately killed some craving and goodwill. Children's world collapsed.
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 14 October 2017 09: 13 New
      +6
      The book "And a warrior alone in the field" was very popular ...
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 14 October 2017 22: 18 New
        +3
        There was also a sequel - "The Black Knights."
        Events take place after the war.
  7. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 October 2017 09: 54 New
    +4
    Propaganda hinted, but it was always known that only from Alsace and Lorraine, who became German officially after 1940, were on a common basis. as citizens of Germany, tens of thousands of French are called upon. Who in captivity in every possible way stick out this. Although they fought no worse than other Germans
  8. midshipman
    midshipman 14 October 2017 10: 03 New
    +6
    Also, the Spaniards “blue division” fought against the Red Army. They got under Leningrad. From France there were patriots who fought in the ranks of the Red Army against the Nazis (Normandy-Niemen). But the Spaniards were not in the ranks of the Red Army, although we helped them in 1934. The first time I arrived in Spain, when Franco died (we four representatives from the Government of the USSR arrived in Barcelona for an exhibition). As ordinary Spaniards warmly welcomed us at the exhibition and in the city, they lifted the palm of his right hand clenched into a fist and said loudly, “BUT PASARAN”. I have the honor.
    1. creak
      creak 14 October 2017 12: 03 New
      19
      [quote = midshipman] But the Spaniards were not in the ranks of the Red Army, although we helped them in 1934. [/ quote]
      We helped the Spaniards during the civil war of 1936-39, and not in 1934. But this is not the main thing - why write a deliberate stupidity that the Spaniards were not in the Red Army ... Ruben Ibarurri, son of Dolores Ibarurri, who died in Stalingrad was exactly a Spaniard. With the outbreak of war in the Red Army, there were hundreds and hundreds of Spaniards who came to the USSR after the end of the civil war ... In particular, the NKVD Special Purpose Brigade included dozens of Spaniards, the Spaniards fought under the command of the famous saboteur Starinov. There were pilots ... Altogether, according to the Spanish Center in Moscow, 211 Spaniards died during the Second World War - although these data are incomplete ...
      So have the honor and do not lay out pseudo-historical fables ...
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 14 October 2017 16: 01 New
        +8
        Ahead, Ibaru wanted to indicate for his son. And for the Blue Division - in VO in my opinion there was material for it. The bottom line is that she fought with us is not bad, unlike the Romanians and Italians.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 14 October 2017 22: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: ranger
        Ruben Ibarurri, the son of Dolores Ibarurri, who died in Stalingrad was just a Spaniard.

        Actually, he was a Basque ...
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 15 October 2017 23: 26 New
          10
          You can also say for Kunnikov - "in fact, he was a Jew." For us they are all Spaniards, for them we are all Russian.
    2. motorized rifle
      motorized rifle 14 October 2017 14: 59 New
      +1
      But what about Ruben Ibarruri?
      1. creak
        creak 14 October 2017 15: 15 New
        0
        Quote: motorized infantryman
        But what about Ruben Ibarruri?

        Quote: ranger
        . Ruben Ibarurri, son of Dolores Ibarurri, who died in Stalingrad was exactly a Spaniard

        And there was no time to read before rushing to comment?
  9. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 14 October 2017 10: 45 New
    +2
    In general, it is worth saying that the percentage of the French who sided with Hitler with weapons in their hands is quite low.
    1. unknown
      unknown 14 October 2017 10: 54 New
      +5
      And if we analyze the losses of countries in WWII, then there is a paradoxical feeling that only the USSR, Germany, Poland and China fought in that war.
      1. San Sanych
        San Sanych 14 October 2017 13: 54 New
        +4
        there were 1,8 million prisoners in the USSR after World War II of non-German nationality, and this is not a small figure
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 14 October 2017 22: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: ignoto
        there is a paradoxical feeling that only the USSR, Germany, Poland and China fought in that war.

        This is because you do not watch the loss, for example, of the Indians! Impudent and then fought mainly with sepoy hands ...
    2. San Sanych
      San Sanych 14 October 2017 14: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: Ken71
      In general, it is worth saying that the percentage of the French who sided with Hitler with weapons in their hands is quite low.

      and nevertheless, 23136 French citizens appeared in Soviet captivity, which is much more than the number of Normandie-Niemen regiment fighting on our side
    3. tiaman.76
      tiaman.76 15 October 2017 10: 59 New
      0
      but more fought for Hitler than in the resistance movement negative
  10. Monarchist
    Monarchist 14 October 2017 11: 30 New
    +3
    Quote: bionik
    Their train was filled with unambiguous slogans: "Heil Hitler!" and "Long live France!"

    I would like to see next a photograph of what they were near the Reich Chancellery in May 1945.
    1. Curious
      Curious 14 October 2017 14: 01 New
      +5
      After the momentous Victory Parade in Moscow on June 24, 1945, the Soviet leadership invited the Americans, British and French to hold a joint military parade in honor of the victory over Nazi Germany in Berlin itself. After some time, their positive response was received. It was decided to hold a parade of Soviet troops and Allied forces in September 1945 in the area of ​​the Reichstag and Brandenburg Gate, where the final battles took place during the capture of Berlin on May 1-2 May 1945.
      The venue for the parade was Alexanderplatz at the Reichstag and the Brandenburg Gate.
      The parade began at exactly 11 o’clock. Having traveled around the troops, Zhukov made a speech in which the historical merits of the Soviet troops and the expeditionary forces of the allies were noted. The solemn speech of Zhukov and his greetings to the victorious countries were simultaneously translated into English and French. Following began the passage of foot columns.
      The first in front of the rostrum was the combined regiment of the 248th Infantry Division of the 9th Infantry Corps of the 5th Guards Army, whose warriors performed many feats of arms during the assault on Berlin.
      The Soviet group was solemnly marched by the French combined regiment of the 2nd Infantry Division, composed of partisans, alpine riflemen and colonial troops, led by Colonel Plesie.

      Unfortunately, photographers did not indulge the French with high-quality images. This is the best I have.
    2. bionik
      bionik 14 October 2017 14: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Monarchist
      Quote: bionik
      Their train was filled with unambiguous slogans: "Heil Hitler!" and "Long live France!"

      I would like to see next a photograph of what they were near the Reich Chancellery in May 1945.

      Among them was this kid: The youngest soldier of the French Legion (Légion des volontaires français contre le bolchévisme - LVF) from the 638th Wehrmacht Infantry Regiment (Infanterie-Regiment 638, Französischer) fifteen-year-old Leon Merdzhian (Léon Merdjian village) Golovkovo.
  11. mar4047083
    mar4047083 14 October 2017 14: 03 New
    +4
    What kind of "garbage" was not picked up by the Nazis. They did not shun anything, while for some reason racial theories were not taken into account. There have already been articles with a brief overview of this rabble in the service of the Nazis. In fairness, it should be noted domestic garbage was many times more than European. And if they are outraged by the heroization of Bandera, the question arises of why the same can be done by former Turkish citizens. Here he is their current national hero And there were about 20000 of them. The monument was opened, no one is indignant, everyone is happy.
    1. A.V.S.
      A.V.S. 16 October 2017 18: 11 New
      +3
      A memorial plaque to the deputy commander of the Armenian Legion of the Wehrmacht Garegin Nzhdeh in Armavir. The Russian Federation, today. By the way, this Armenian Nazi has never been to Armavir.
      1. mar4047083
        mar4047083 16 October 2017 23: 30 New
        +2
        This is what we are talking about. Everyone is discussing Ukraine, Poland, Estonia. First, you need to figure out your 3.14derasts. It’s not possible there, but it is possible with us. Mannerheim is a hero, Armenian 3.14derast too, it remains to put a monument to Vlasov.
      2. Karen
        Karen 18 October 2017 12: 16 New
        +1
        The people didn’t fight Nzhde against the Red Army ... he simply recruited our people from concentration camps to save from hunger, without fighting against their country ... "Legend" - to prepare policemen from ours during the occupation of Transcaucasia ...
  12. nivander
    nivander 14 October 2017 14: 12 New
    +5
    in August 1942 Guy Sawyer, 16 years old, with thousands of his peers voluntarily joined the Wehrmacht. He choked on Voronezh, barely survived on the Kursk Bulge, was seriously wounded near Zhitomir. Then again a year later on the Nida River, surrendered to the Allies and was immediately drafted into the French Army. His vast experience allowed him to make a quick career and even participate in the victory parade of France in WWII in September 1945 --- just a complete flyby hung from German orders by a non-commissioned officer from the Great Germany motorized infantry regiment and ... a parade of francs in honor of the victory over the Huns
  13. mar4047083
    mar4047083 14 October 2017 14: 24 New
    +4
    Here is another miracle "soldier" in the service of the SS. Real Aryan.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 14 October 2017 14: 36 New
      0
      In Egypt, Rommel is very respected, there is even a museum at the place of his Headquarters, such as he fought for the freedom of the Africans, so it is not surprising to see a black one in his SS uniform!
    2. motorized rifle
      motorized rifle 14 October 2017 15: 03 New
      0
      And next to the African-African, a pseudo-order, from Panvits probably. Why pseudo? Because the spurs on it. Cossacks (real) spurs were not used.
    3. creak
      creak 14 October 2017 15: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: mar4047083
      Here is another miracle "soldier" in the service of the SS.

      This "soldier" in the form of the Wehrmacht, not the SS ....
      1. mar4047083
        mar4047083 14 October 2017 17: 03 New
        +4
        Well, that Aryan from the Wehrmacht, just met a friend from the SS Cossacks. By the way, in the modern Kuban Cossack army there is a Negro. But these Aryans are definitely from the SS "Free Arabia" legion. Well, at least the Nazis had the mind to not send these comrades to Moscow. In general, the idea was different, as the service in the SS of Negroes and Armenians is consistent with racial theories. Or they have, like Samsonov’s: I remember here, but I don’t remember here.
        1. iouris
          iouris 16 October 2017 20: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: mar4047083
          how the service in the SS of blacks and Armenians is consistent with racial theories

          Agrees. And they were not against the racial Jewish state. And the SS is not an army, but "security units", something like the National Guard or the modern "Azov" Fuhrer Kolomoisky.
  14. tiaman.76
    tiaman.76 15 October 2017 10: 54 New
    +3
    Pozner would read this article ... and remind him that thanks to the "dictator" Stalin, his beloved France retained at least some authority and its statehood
  15. Stiletto_711
    Stiletto_711 15 October 2017 15: 08 New
    +2
    To understand the situation with the French in World War II, it will be interesting to look at their losses.
    Losses of the French army in the war:
    - 1940 before surrender - 123 thousand military personnel were killed (including about 2 thousand Poles),
    - after 1940 - killed, Army of the Liberation of France (Giraud) - 50 thousand, Army of the Fighting France (de Gaulle) - 12 thousand, Resistance - 8 thousand.
    The number of French fought in the Wehrmacht 1940-1945 - 200 thousand.
    Those. the number of French citizens killed fighting weapons in their hands against the Nazis is less than the number of French citizens who fought on the side of these same fascists.
    Here's something like request
    1. Nurtai
      Nurtai 16 October 2017 16: 57 New
      +2
      In 1945, the USSR transferred part of the captured French (about 1000), but General Leclerc simply shot them without any trial. Then they kicked him for a long time.
    2. iouris
      iouris 16 October 2017 21: 03 New
      +1
      It should be recalled that in the overseas territories the Vichy (French) troops fought very seriously against the Wehrmacht against the Anglo-Americans, and de Gaulle was declared a deserter and traitor to France. So the USSR fought alone against the European Union.
      1. Karen
        Karen 17 October 2017 10: 00 New
        0
        And how cool the Yankees staged de Gaulle an orange overthrow ...
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 17 October 2017 15: 04 New
        +1
        "So the USSR alone fought against the European Union" ////

        Almost alone. Apart from the British Commonwealth of Nations: Britain, Canada, Australia,
        India ... And the United States helped a little bit with half of the industry that worked for the USSR.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 17 October 2017 15: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And the USA a little bit

          Mdya..this is how history is taught in Israel, and then the crocodile tears are shed on May 9th, they say, and we plowed?
          Is it not shameful, or is the concept of conscience incomprehensible to you?
          Again, show in percent, in quantitative terms, how many Hitler divisions were killed on the Soviet-German front, and how many on the rest?
  16. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 16 October 2017 15: 02 New
    +2
    A significant part of French society (as well as British) was on the side of the Nazis. There was De Gaulle, there was Paten. As regards the attitude of the USSR towards this, for example, Stalin objected to France’s participation in post-war control of German territory. Later, in the Franco-Soviet relations, a significant warming occurred - the aggravation of relations with the United States pushed both countries to each other. France has become a "window to Europe", primarily in the cultural sense - literature, cinema, fashion, music. Why be surprised that some unsightly moments of history were hushed up?