Israel put Angola base patrol aircraft

The Israeli company BIRD Aerosystems announced the delivery of a base patrol aircraft to an unnamed African customer, equipped with Airborne Surveillance, Information, and Observation (ASIO) developed by the company. He writes about it bmpd with reference to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly".

According to the magazine, the customer is Angola, and the Cessna Citation I machine, purchased for the Angola Air Force in the American secondary market, was converted into a base patrol aircraft.

The cost of the transaction was about $ 20 million. It is reported that “the Cessna Citation I aircraft was equipped with the latest Leonardo SeaSpray search radar with AFAR in the ventral fairing, as well as the Israeli satellite electronic tracking system receiver and receiver of the automatic ship identification system (AIS) ".

In addition, the aircraft received data transmission equipment developed by BIRD Aerosystems (both by direct radio channel and satellite communication station) to the ground station and to terminals installed on ships and boats of the Angolan Navy.

Comments

[Teberii]

Pirates catch.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Teberii

Pirates catch.

Well, someone should direct the 8 Su-30, which Angola is buying.

[SERGE ANT]

In vain the money spent, the Boers will still knock him, the noble warriors ....

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: SERGE ANT

In vain the money spent, the Boers will still knock him, the noble warriors ....

So there are already no Boers. And the Air Force in modern South Africa is practically absent.

[SERGE ANT]

Hello ..... And where did they go? More recently, in 80, we were there, and we drank the blood very successfully with the Cubans (the uncle praised them)? Did they die out, or what?

[Logall]

They were probably classified ...
Or banned!

[donavi49]

Yes. Nelson came and everything rolled. South Africa is now a crumbling construction. But with the power of indigenous blacks. No apartheid.

[weary]

with the power of indigenous blacks

Are you sure that they are indigenous? Zulu is like aliens.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: SERGE ANT

Hello ..... And where did they go? More recently, in 80, we were there, and we drank the blood very successfully with the Cubans (the uncle praised them)? Did they die out, or what?

There the African National Congress has been in power for 30 years, while it turned the South African army it’s better not to say ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: SERGE ant

Hello ..... And where did they go? More recently, in 80, we were there, and we drank the blood very successfully with the Cubans (the uncle praised them)? Did they die out, or what?

The damned air colonizers of apartheid-free countries could not stand it. Inhaled once - and went where someone.
Aerobatics were South African pilots who fought in the 90s on the side ... of the official government of Angola against UNITA. South African mercenary pilots from the infamous "Executive Outcomes" piloted the very MiG-23s that were previously considered their most likely opponents. And they bombed their former best allies on them.
And that was just the beginning. Due to the regular budget cuts in the South African Air Force, the number of pilots and equipment in operation has been steadily decreasing. For example, part of the tasks previously assigned to the Gripenes had to be thrown to the old Hawks - because it is cheaper. Moreover, the raid of the Gripen pilots was also supported at the Hawks - for the Swede is too expensive. Participation in the A400M project was also canceled.
In 2013, a scandal erupted:

Soon after the South African authorities admitted to conserving 12 of the 26 Saab JAS-39C / D Gripen cash fighters due to a lack of funds and trained pilots, it becomes apparent: the termination of the contract with the Denel Aero Manpower Group (AMG) from April 1, 2013 to maintain the airworthiness of the entire fleet of the South African Air Force, the military created enormous problems, since now the operation of even the aircraft remaining in service is unsafe. As a result of the authorities' refusal to renew the contract, 389 technical personnel lost their work at the Air Force facilities, only 139 remained (including those serving the government squadron).
As Fabian Msimang, Commander-in-Chief of the South African Air Force said in a meeting with the personnel of one of the air bases in July 2013, “the decision to terminate the contract was not made by the Air Force. This is an initiative of the financial control authorities, since the terms of the contract did not comply with the legislation determining the procedure for spending state funds. ”
As the head of Saab South Africa confirmed in July 2013, there were no fixed-term Gripen service contracts since April, and the fleet of these aircraft is in serious danger. Now, some politicians are calling for the sale of Gripen, because there is no money for them in the country either for their operation or for trained pilots.
It is reported that 14 Gripen are in flight condition, only six pilots remain in service for them. Due to corruption, cuts in military spending and political pressure on the air force (which are required to increase the percentage of indigenous people in flight and technical personnel), the aircraft fleet has also been reduced over the past decade. To crown it all, in May it became known that in 2013 the Air Force will not recruit cadets for training pilots and navigators.
The Air Force ceased to publish statistics on the number of personnel and air raids in 2009. After the last of 2008 Denel Cheetah fighters (alteration of the French Dassault Mirage III and Israeli IAI Kfir C66) were written off in 2, the average raid of military pilots on average fell from 2000-2500 hours to 325 hours a year.
The problems of the South African Air Force are not unique - due to a lack of engineering and technical specialists, the entire country's infrastructure and its engineering structures are deteriorating and gradually becoming unusable.
As for the Air Force, the government is demanding that the ratio of black and white in personnel be three to one. How to deal with a categorical shortage of black specialists, the government has not decided.
A public drama with shots erupted in 2005 - then the three best flight school graduates who were preparing to become fighters were offered to distribute to helicopters or transport aircraft. At the same time, their fighter positions were transferred to three less trained black graduates.
Authorities also exert pressure on civil aviation on a racial line, but it’s easier for them to fight back: populist politicians fly in civilian sides themselves and are aware that flight safety should be in the first place, and therefore hinder the hiring of the best pilots in the airline and technicians are more expensive for themselves.

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[Alexey RA]

Quote: SERGE ant

In vain the money spent, the Boers will still knock him, the noble warriors ....

The Boers, in fact, in the 90s fought on the side of official Angola.

[SERGE ANT]

South Africa, before the beginning of 90, our tails were pinched there ... Then I don’t know, an uncle in 89 came home from there.

[Holoy]

Israel has good equipment ... avionics is better than in the USA ...

[Michael newage]

How is she better?

[Shahno]

Brains that someone in the USSR could not hold.

[Michael newage]

Lol, the techie showed up. You would have characteristics, at least some, brought for comparison Izz. And then, directly lost Rossiyushka, all the great engineers left for Israel.

[Holoy]

Not necessarily to Israel. Engineers are good and go straight to Boeing in Moscow and are located, they pay 150 thousand for half an hour immediately after the interview, and in our defense company they pay 10 thousand and some unclear coefficients ... MONTH !!!! And everyone finds out who is in the family abroad or judging ... in Boeing, they do not ask such questions, but look at the brain ... Gee

[Michael newage]

Do you think that in the defense of a Boeing, they don’t find out who we are judging? If not, it’s not surprising that they have spies on the election .

[Holoy]

Quote: Michael Newage

Do you think that in the defense of a Boeing, they don’t find out who we are judging? If not, it’s not surprising that they have spies on the election .

I wonder how the US personnel service will find out the criminal record of relatives in Russia? That's purely technically?

[Michael newage]

The questionnaire is filled out (by the applicant), the special services are checked. This is for US citizens with a passport. Non-citizens in the defense industry will not work. But you didn’t know that. But you dream about 150 thousand salaries))))

[Holoy]

I don’t dream, I know full of design engineers who have gained experience with us and went to Boeing, there they didn’t have a question on the criminal record in the questionnaire, but mainly mathematical tasks, and programming ...

[Michael newage]

These engineers left civilian or military aviation for civilian, and the discussion here was about the defense industry, where citizenship and verification are inevitable. This is the first. And secondly, what kind of engineers are they, this is another question. They would be irreplaceable specialists without any “buts” and we would have found a job for 150 rubles, or even more. The times when the best shots flowed in packs in the 90s are long gone. Right now, it is not yet known where it is better to work, for a lower salary with us, or with knowledge of the language and high taxes in the west. So do not idealize the place where we are not. Are you still not in a Boeing? Or qualification does not allow ?

[Holoy]

Quote: Michael Newage

These engineers left civilian or military aviation for civilian, and the discussion here was about the defense industry, where citizenship and verification are inevitable.

Go to Boeing mainly from our defense industry. And even those who are not allowed to travel abroad, since a Boeing is in Moscow. And they wait 5 years to leave altogether ...

Quote: Michael Newage

They would be irreplaceable specialists without any “buts” and we would have found a job for 150 rubles, or even more.

I don’t need to write such garbage. Nobody will find anything and will not even search, if only to a relative. I won’t name the numbers, because it’s a shame for my country ... But Boeing doesn’t take anyone in vain, there’s a careful selection, so yes, fewer but better personnel are leaving for the United States, because in our military-industrial complex not only they pay a little, but big because of the regime and not leaving the country, but for young people it is a significant smut! And the boss will not let you grow professionally, because each boss has a son or daughter, and this boss only moves them ... and this is a well-established system, and it’s not possible to break it!
Our military-industrial complex is a clumsy, fearful relatively talented youth, but not its relatives, where only kinship and bureaucracy are preserved ... but in reality theft and huge thefts ... so there are no prospects. Sadness ...

Of course we have breakthroughs, but it’s like a rule only because of enthusiasm ... nothing more.

[Shahno]

Optional to Israel. The trend however.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Michael Newage

Lol, the techie showed up. You would have characteristics, at least some, brought for comparison Izz. And then, directly lost Rossiyushka, all the great engineers left for Israel.

The first time in all time has put you a plus.

[Michael newage]

I am writing here not so long ago, so there will be something else.

[Shahno]

prof. Boris Salzman,
prof. Chaim Sukenik,
Prof. Eduard Yakubov,
prof. Leo Rapoport,
prof. Michael Zinigrad,
prof. Emil Zolotyabko,
Dr. Yosef Ben-Ezra,
Prof. Alexander Doloshnetskiy,
prof. Vadim Levit
prof. Boris Fainberg,
prof. Michael Krivilevich,
prof. Abraham the King
prof. Menachem Steiner
prof. Shmuel Saffron.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Shahno

...
.

Listen, the bulk of these people are not related to the military-industrial complex from the word AT ALL. Secondly, among our own, I personally knew at one time engineers who had worked in the USSR for 15 years or as a "safety engineer" or "responsible for the implementation of scientific and technical progress" and could not read the drawing of the detail. And the humanities were completely unsuitable for life in Israel was generally the sea. The military-industrial complex mainly began to take repatriates who have served and studied in Israel or who have lived and worked for at least 10 years in the country. So let's not puff out our cheeks. And the country and its military-industrial complex were created before our arrival.

[Michael newage]

Interesting opinion, by the way. And I thought that the bulk of engineers from the military-industrial complex came from the USSR from the middle of the 70 to the 90. Another thing is that all sorts of people left, and of course not all.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Michael Newage

Interesting opinion, by the way. And I thought that the bulk of engineers from the military-industrial complex came from the USSR from the middle of the 70 to the 90. Another thing is that all sorts of people left, and of course not all.

Not at all. On the Internet, including Russian, a lot of information about the Israeli military-industrial complex. It began to form even before the War of Independence, and by the beginning of 80x it was already fully formed and structured. The engineers there were mostly either local natives or repatriates who lived in Israel for a serious period of their lives. No one was taken from the street, as in the first days of independence.

[Shahno]

I don’t know what Aron you are doing. But in my question. Namely, engine building, airframe assemblies, are mainly our former immigrants from the CIS countries. You don’t even have to switch to Hebrew. He brought a list to a friend, because you can check it. Of course, not everyone there is connected with the military industrial complex.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Shahno

I don’t know what Aron you are doing. But in my question. Namely, engine building, airframe assemblies, are mainly our former immigrants from the CIS countries. You don’t even have to switch to Hebrew. He brought a list to a friend, because you can check it. Of course, not everyone there is connected with the military industrial complex.

Well, it's still "two big differences" (c)

[Shahno]

If you have any questions, I can explain. But of course I will not merge information on each. Read their works on the internet.

[Michael newage]

There is a question: Why is Israel's avionics better than American?
Your Answer:
prof. Boris Salzman,
prof. Chaim Sukenik,
Prof. Eduard Yakubov,
.....................................
Ok, no questions.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Michael Newage

There is a question: Why is Israel's avionics better than American?

There is an indirect sign, here American avionics is changed to domestic by more than half. In addition to the F-35, it was developed in collaboration with Israeli firms.

[Michael newage]

Oh, back from the philologists forums ? This indirect attribute can be counted, but I would say that it is more like support for a domestic manufacturer than a real military necessity. And here’s another indirect sign: who else is changing avionics on their American planes, from stock to Israeli? Yes, no one. But the kit is already ready and tested, removed and installed. Why not change? Yes, because it is either equal or worse. That's the whole clue.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Michael Newage

Yes, because it is either equal or worse. That's the whole clue.

Have you not considered the option of limiting the sale of this avionics abroad?
But how much aplomb, you at least consider yourself a genius, right?

[Michael newage]

What restrictions can you have in order to sell your AFARs with F15, for example, to your allies in the "democratic" coalition of South Korea? Yes, no, except that they do not need them. Yes and all the rest too.
I do not consider myself to be either a genius or a specialist, therefore I asked our Israeli friends. In response, a list of obscure surnames, "indirect signs" and not a single digit . And here you are, I believe, at least a small-minded man who got into someone else's discussion with his rotten arguments. But for you this is the norm and not the first time, I know .

[Lex.]

And Israel from where the components take integrated circuits processors optics are not in the United States and in Europe by chance

[padded jacket]

Quote: Shahno

Brains that someone in the USSR could not hold.

So maybe different traitors and opportunists who are ready to betray their homeland for the sake of material wealth and do not really need to be kept to let them go abroad, but in times of war there will be fewer people who sided with enemies

[And Us Rat]

Quote: quilted jacket

So maybe different traitors and opportunists who are ready to betray their homeland for the sake of material wealth and do not really need to be kept to let them go abroad

And preferably in a forced manner.

[padded jacket]

Quote: And Us Rat

Moreover, it is desirable to enforce

What for? If they leave anyway

[And Us Rat]

Quote: quilted jacket

If they leave anyway

Not enough, urgent need for a "patriotic" repression cleaning, and deporting unreliable! And then suddenly during the war they will sell everything to the bourgeoisie?

[Michael newage]

Have you already left? So everything is OK . No cleaning needed .

[padded jacket]

Quote: And Us Rat

Not enough, urgently needed to carry out "patriotic" reprisals of the purge, and deport the unreliable!

Well, this is the path of the USA and Germany under the leadership of Hitler (by the way, they say the "drop" of Jewish blood flowed in it) and not ours.

[Shahno]

Well, here's what you split up here. I just said the USSR military-industrial complex helped us to create our own electrical, technical and microelectronic industry. Which in fact has become one level with the staff. Thank you anti-Semites.

[Livonetc]

Quote: SERGE ANT

In vain the money spent, the Boers will still knock him, the noble warriors ....

Who will knock down?

[Michael newage]

Quote: Holoy

Go to Boeing mainly from our defense industry. And even those who are not allowed to travel abroad, since a Boeing is in Moscow. And they wait 5 years to leave altogether ...

In Moscow, a branch that does nothing but advertising, does maintenance and sales. These are the "engineers" and "specialties" who go there.

Quote: Holoy

I don’t need to write such garbage.

Dear, I am writing what I consider necessary. And it’s not for you, with your fairy tales about happy work in a Boeing, to tell me that is nonsense, and that is not nonsense. Unlike you, I worked in the military-industrial complex and am a little versed in aviation. And you judging by what you write, a layman both there and there.

Quote: Holoy

No one will find anything and will not even search, if only to a relative.

Yes, yes, you and your relatives were unlucky and lacking qualifications, but the country is to blame .

Quote: Holoy

I will not name the numbers, for I am ashamed of my country ...

Your complexes and feelings, in no way affect the real state of affairs. These are just your problems. .

Quote: Holoy

But Boeing doesn’t take anyone in vain, there’s careful selection,

Yeah, and above you spoke exactly the opposite . What, the memory of a girl? No questions asked, 30 minutes. interviews, and you have a salary of 150 rubles. Oh well. You already decide.

Quote: Holoy

so yes now fewer but better staff are leaving for the USA, because in our military-industrial complex not only they pay a little, but also a big bogey because of the regime and not leaving the country, and for young people it is a big bump! Our military-industrial complex is slow and timid relatively gifted youth, but not their relatives, a leadership where only kinship relations and a bureaucracy were preserved ... but in reality theft and huge thefts ... so there are no prospects. Sadness ...

Blah, blah, blah, how bad things are with us, and what a blooming garden is in the Boeing . And this is from a person who has a little more than nothing to do with the military-industrial complex, and in aviation he understands the level of speech.
In short, PROFANlearn mat. part, you will marry a clever .

[Holoy]

Well, that’s changed my personality. A pity, I thought you really understood something in the military-industrial complex ... I'm talking about the military-industrial complex, you're talking about me ... Gee

[Michael newage]

Where did I go to the person? Offended by the profane? So this is you. You only from me, today you learned that in order to work in the military-industrial complex, you need to fill out a questionnaire for verification by the FSB. Therefore, I am sure that you have nothing to do with either the army or the military-industrial complex. Refute my words, if not weakly and write who you are, a Boeing lover.

[Holoy]

OK, if you know a lot about the military-industrial complex, name the organization you work for ... at least I'll see what it is about ...

[Michael newage]

After you, dear man. Especially since I first asked. And then, I have access, you know ... and I’d not want to bother again.

[Holoy]

The name has nothing to do with the secret ...

[Michael newage]

I agree, well, tell me who you are, since such an open .

[Holoy]

Don’t answer the question with a question, or say it or so far ... I just wanted to see where the talented young engineers in our military industrial complex can pay like a Boeing in Moscow ... Moreover, at least as IT people from the telephone company writing applications, and they 200 thousand have no hemorrhoids ... and no secrets ...

Yes, and call your salary?

[Michael newage]

Okay, even though I was the first to ask and understand perfectly well that you are an ordinary troll I will answer:
Я have worked (no longer) at one of the enterprises belonging to the constellation Concern. Here is a list of their businesses: http: //sozvezdie.su/aboutt/sostav_is_
kontsern_sozvezdie /
Which one doesn’t matter. As for the huge salaries in Boeing and IT people. I repeat, it all depends on your quality. I had it so-so , plus the specifics and I received a little. Someone is better and he got more. If people went to the Boeing for 150 rubles. from the military-industrial complex, he’s not a sickly specialist, and at his old place of work, he was paid not much less. But again, it depends on specific places. Yes and compare civil Boeing IT with the defense industry is generally stupid. You can compare the number of products of the same Boeing for warriors and civilians. Where more volumes and who will inflict more? On the other hand, the military-industrial complex has its own advantages in work. So to each his own. And to write "cococo fsepropalo, young engineers from the military-industrial complex go to the Boeing (lol to Moscow ) ... "we already passed this 20 years ago and you were late with such cries.

[Holoy]

By the way, the hired directors in our military-industrial complex have set their own salaries higher than their Boeing colleagues ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Michael Newage

... a clown without a circus.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Holoy

Well, that’s changed my personality. A pity, I thought you really understood something in the military-industrial complex ... I'm talking about the military-industrial complex, you're talking about me ... Gee

This is normal for him, he compensates for the impudence and rudeness lack of competence.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Michael Newage

You still kiss, two Russophobe friends .

What is wrong with you? So you copied 10 comments in a row, now you are attracted to rear-wheel drive?
You never thought that it was people like you who produce Russophobes.