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The Pentagon has begun to create tools for instant global strike

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The Pentagon has begun to create promising complexes of instant global strike, transmits RIA News a message from the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexander Emelyanov.




Implementing the concept of sharing offensive and defensive weapons, the Pentagon began to create promising strike systems of instant global strike,
said Yemelyanov on the margins of the first committee of the UN General Assembly.

He noted that “in non-nuclear equipment, these complexes should solve the same tasks that today are assigned to strategic nuclear forces”.

The interconnection of plans for the deployment of a missile defense system and the creation of means of instant global strike is obvious. When a "disarming" strike is made on Russian and Chinese strategic nuclear forces, the effectiveness of the American missile defense system increases significantly.
said Yemelyanov.

He stressed that “the creation of means of instant global strike is another factor that confirms Washington’s desire to destroy the current balance of power, to ensure global strategic domination.”

The representative of the Russian department also pointed out that the intelligence of the American missile defense system "can not only detect the launch of Russian missiles, but also give target indications for intercepting their combat units." According to Yemelyanov, "the capabilities of the US missile defense systems, given their modernization, pose a threat to Russia's deterrence potential."

Yemelyanov noted that the American system also threatens security in space. The anti-missile capabilities of Americans will reach a new level as a result of increasing the low-orbit detection system: data will be transmitted from satellite to board anti-missiles, he added.
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  1. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 13 October 2017 08: 35 New
    18
    But this is an alarming bell. This is not SOI for you .... Let our scientists now think what to oppose this case.
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 13 October 2017 08: 39 New
      28
      It would be regrettable, but in the case of a hint of imbalance it will be necessary to strike at the USA! Because they will do it as soon as possible ...
      1. garx
        garx 13 October 2017 08: 45 New
        +6
        Here it is impossible to exclude a repetition of the situation with "Star Wars" which Comrade had once announced. Reagan
        1. japs
          japs 13 October 2017 08: 57 New
          11
          I agree with you, the first thought immediately that the showman Trump is trying to repeat the success of his idol Roni Reagan. And he has more chances.
          With so many liberals in the Russian government, there will be plenty of whining that we lost the arms race.
      2. san4es
        san4es 13 October 2017 08: 45 New
        14
        Quote: Anarchist
        in the event of a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the USA! ...

        stop ...In queue soldier
        1. Logall
          Logall 13 October 2017 08: 59 New
          17
          This ally will deal with bases in Japan and the Republic of Kazakhstan. In Guam, more ...
          Russia will have to deal with China with the United States. With Europe, only Russia.
          India and Turkey will wait aside to join the winner!
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 13 October 2017 09: 12 New
            +9
            Quote: Logall
            India and Turkey will wait aside to join the winner!

            There Sanya there will be nothing to adjoin, only ashes and such little animals here. hi drinks
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 13 October 2017 09: 17 New
              +3
              Brother, hello buddy! hi drinks It’s you who painted a very funny picture. Can krakozyably and it seems worse turn out. If at all, there is nothing left but bacteria and ciliates-slippers ...
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 13 October 2017 09: 25 New
                +9
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Crackers can and

                Hello Brother drinks hiAfter Chernobyl, an entire state of bobbers was formed there. wink
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 October 2017 09: 32 New
                  +3
                  I’m thinking: what is it that exploded in Matrasia? Obviously something more generous than Chernobyl ... recourse
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 13 October 2017 10: 59 New
                    16
                    `` Cookies with plutonium '' crumbled.
                    Greetings, comrades!
                2. Alex20042004
                  Alex20042004 14 October 2017 16: 10 New
                  0
                  I like this one:
              2. andrewkor
                andrewkor 13 October 2017 09: 45 New
                +1
                Cockroaches are even more tenacious, live right in the reactors.
          2. weksha50
            weksha50 13 October 2017 22: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: Logall
            With the United States Russia with China to cope. With Europe, only Russia.
            India and Turkey will wait aside to join the winner!


            Yes, and China, most likely, with a steep kneading - will step aside, observe, and at the right time will strike there and where it will be profitable for EMU ...
            There is nothing special to count on a military fraternity with China ...
            Itself will not attack us (in our battle with the US-NATO) - and thanks for that ...
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 13 October 2017 08: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: Anarchist
        they will do it as soon as possible ...

        They won’t do it for a minute !!!!! All the preparatory work on discrediting, watering the USSR, RUSSIA with slops has long been carried out and is ongoing all the time !!!!
      4. nod739
        nod739 13 October 2017 14: 59 New
        +2
        davot all goes to that ... in the next news - the helicopters are sailing to Riga by sea ... well, let's connect the MTR, let that lahanka drown before reaching Riga, as Israel does - we are threatened by toto and toto - chilling - and covered, Well, what are we? if the machah is not inevitable .. choose the moment when to hit, otherwise they will set up an alert ... and democratize at one opportune moment ...
    2. Vend
      Vend 13 October 2017 08: 51 New
      +1
      And here's how to detonate at the launch site.
    3. BAI
      BAI 13 October 2017 08: 58 New
      0
      Generally, defenses are cheaper than offensive means. By the way, this is also true for strategic missiles and missile defense.
      1. Berber
        Berber 13 October 2017 09: 17 New
        +3
        This is pure bluff. Firstly: whatever the pro-air defense, there are always loopholes. For example, you can equip Caliber with a nuclear warhead. Secondly, their missile defense systems do not reach the counteraction to our strategic nuclear forces. Maximum SCADA. Banal cut dough. Military factories work - people get kickbacks.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 October 2017 13: 03 New
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          "whatever the pro-air defense, there are always loopholes" ////

          Right. This also applies to Russian air defense.

          "Secondly, their missile defense systems do not reach opposition to our strategic nuclear forces." ////

          And nobody argues with that. ABM is only in its infancy.
          But it has nothing to do with the topic. The Americans believe: “Why hit a nuclear ballistic mine with a nuclear charge, if today accuracy allows you to put ordinary armor-piercing-concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher?”
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 13 October 2017 20: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            why hit the ICBM mine with a nuclear charge, if today accuracy allows you to put ordinary armor-piercing-concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher? "

            Warrior hi
            Alexei, if the means of attack deprive astrocorrection / GPS-guidance, then the usual (conventional) charge may not be enough due to aiming errors ... This is not a megaton shock wave that shakes the silos and surroundings ... And the fact that ours will burn out brains from their satellite group - don’t go to the rabbi! The threatened period is for this purpose and is intended ...
            Somehow, however!
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 October 2017 20: 16 New
              +4
              I agree with that. But not all US steps in creating new weapons are directed against Russia. The world is dynamic, and every decade creates new threats. The states do not want to seek tactical solutions for every case, but have a universal powerful weapon, moreover, conventional, so as not to bother with violation of treaties. A blank flies from a distant stratosphere - and greetings to the launch pad of some future Ayatollah Un. And neither airspace violations nor
              violations of nuclear contracts. Quiet and smooth - the enemy is neutralized.
              1. Berber
                Berber 16 October 2017 08: 38 New
                +1
                “Instant Global Strike” is from the realm of fiction. This requires preparation. Events of this magnitude will not go unnoticed. So the idea itself is crazy.
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 13 October 2017 21: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            consider: "why hit a nuclear ballistic missile in a mine with a nuclear charge, if today accuracy allows you to put ordinary armor-piercing-concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher?"

            ... you have template thinking, don’t you?

            If people built a mine, then they already have a warning system that a mine is being hit. Accordingly, the response time (immediate launch) will be less than the ammunition reaches the target ...
            If they cannot provide this, there will be mobile launchers ...
            And if there is both, then people are insured and increase stability and flexibility to counter it.
            Therefore, do not flatter yourself. And consider yourself more cunning than a potential adversary ...
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 October 2017 22: 09 New
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              Mine is just an example.
              The Americans want to be able to hit anywhere in the world with precision conventional weapons within an hour and a half from the time of the order. Not for the destruction of the city, but an important small object. And what will a potential adversary come up with? - this is his business.
    4. max702
      max702 13 October 2017 09: 41 New
      +2
      Well, what a nonsense .... even if WE ALL rockets are stupidly undermined in our storage places, then the northern fox will come to the whole planet .. And if we die right away, then the "partners" will taste all the charm of the consequences, and having time to curse ourselves more than one a thousand times sitting in dying bunkers underground ..
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 13 October 2017 09: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: SERGE ant
      .Let our scientists now think what to oppose to this matter.

      A long time ago everything was invented ... Status-6. Well, the RCC project Zircon, BZHRD Baguzin, and so on ...
      Realizing the concept of joint use of offensive and defensive weapons, the Pentagon began to create promising strike complexes instant global strike

      That is a means of attack. The USA directly exudes peace. wassat
    6. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 13 October 2017 10: 25 New
      +1
      We also need these.
      Well, still overlaid America around the perimeter with “statuses” would not hurt ...
      Hypersound and Statuses are our everything. And let the descendants of thieves and prostitutes fight in hysteria from fear.
    7. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2017 11: 27 New
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      Quote: SERGE ant
      Let our scientists think now

      And the rest are not able to think?
    8. 73bor
      73bor 15 October 2017 09: 39 New
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      Listen to us, the past decades have fed us that if the United States has the power to deliver a global blow and they have everything, they’ve started to do it, it doesn’t mean to do it, several more administrations will change the F-35 for thirty years, the missile defense system and even more so with dubious results, and what else to expect from the US to "hands uphill"? Everything is expected. The main thing is to scare any “wunderwaffe” more just by exhaling and working!
  2. bagr69
    bagr69 13 October 2017 08: 35 New
    +9
    US comments: this system is not directed against Russia, take our word for it.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 13 October 2017 08: 45 New
      +3
      Well, of course.!!!!!
      Quote: bagr69
      US comments: this system is not directed against Russia, take our word for it.

      This is like Hitler would say after September 1, 1939:
      "" I am not against the USSR, so I went for a walk ""
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 13 October 2017 09: 12 New
        +2
        As a historian, I want to correct you. On September 1, 1939, Hitler was formally not against the USSR, for it was a treaty. But on June 22!
        1. anykin
          anykin 13 October 2017 09: 52 New
          +1
          He probably on June 21 was formally not against the USSR.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 13 October 2017 09: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: PalBor
          On September 1, 1939, Hitler formally was not against the USSR, for - an agreement.
          That's what it is about, which is very formal. !!!!!!
    2. johnik
      johnik 13 October 2017 09: 09 New
      0
      Gentlemen believe the word ...
  3. svp67
    svp67 13 October 2017 08: 40 New
    +5
    The Pentagon has begun to create promising complexes of instant global impact,
    I even know a country in conflict with which they can experience this system and the concept itself .... DPRK.
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 13 October 2017 08: 44 New
    +4
    The Pentagon has already begun to create means of instant global impact
    How lovely. But wouldn’t we announce the adoption of a nuclear “counter-time” repeat I explain
    .This is a pre-planned movement used against a fighter who is constantly trying to deliver counter-attacks or counterattack at the time of your attack, that is, against such a fighter who starts his counterattack as soon as his opponent makes any attacking movement.
    Well, let them sit and are afraid even to hint at the developments, and even more so the adoption of the means of an instant global strike.
    I almost forgot, this is not our method. We are in constant defense. And we constantly apologize for something, make excuses recourse
  5. raid14
    raid14 13 October 2017 08: 58 New
    +3
    The article bashfully holds back his statement on American missile defense.
    "According to Russian experts, Standard-3 missiles of the 2A modification, the deployment of which is expected to be launched in 2018, will be able to intercept strategic ballistic missiles not only on the middle and final, but also on the ascending section of the missile’s flight path, which allows them to hit ballistic missiles up to the moment of breeding warblocks, "he specified.
    According to Emelyanov, the number of missile defense systems of the United States by 2022 will exceed 1 thousand units, and in the future will exceed the number of warheads on Russian intercontinental missiles.


    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/politika/4641632
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 11: 57 New
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      Quote: raid14
      The article bashfully holds back his statement on American missile defense.


      "Your raspberry" has made even more mocking -
      US President Donald Trump during a meeting with world leaders this summer said he wants to increase the US nuclear arsenal tenfold, reports NBC News.

      Therefore, NEST, we have a lot of things already in hardware, which we can guarantee to cover in return: non-intercepted Yarses and Frontiers with Maces. Beat the second wave - X-102. There will be SuperSarmat and the new elusive BZHRK
      Better yet, we can do it proactively!
      And most importantly - together with the Chinese brothers ...
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 13 October 2017 12: 11 New
        +1
        The fact of the matter is that they are "non-intercepted" on the final section of the trajectory, and at the start they are very intercepted. About what the conversation is -
        the deployment of which is expected from 2018, will be able to intercept strategic ballistic missiles not only on the middle and final, but also on the ascending section of the missile flight path, which allows you to hit ballistic missiles until the deployment of warheads
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: _Jack_
          The fact of the matter is that they are "non-intercepted" on the final section of the trajectory, and at the start they are very intercepted.

          learn materiel!

          The missile defense system with the SM-3 anti-missile system in Romania cannot intercept the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation either in range or in time balance. The film shows the conditions that are most favorable for the enemy and unfavorable for the Russian Federation. The range shown is for the SM-3 block 2 missile, which does not yet exist, and whether it will be made unclear. For SNF missiles, the region as close as possible to Romania was taken and the aiming was carried out along the east coast of the USA, i.e. with the firing plane as much as possible inclined to the west.
          1. _Jack_
            _Jack_ 13 October 2017 12: 59 New
            +2
            Your "learn materiel!" send to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I quoted not my words, but the statement of the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexander Emelyanov. So he is advised to teach the materiel if you are more competent in this matter than the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
            the deployment of which is expected from 2018, will be able to intercept strategic ballistic missiles not only on the middle and final, but also on the ascending section of the missile flight path, which allows you to hit ballistic missiles until the deployment of warheads
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 13 October 2017 13: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: _Jack_
              Your "learn materiel!" send to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

              eco vie restless!
              Below I answered your thesis according to Emelyanov ...
              ... these are just Statements by representatives of TWO different structures within the framework of a single MO system.
              With different purposes: Means of attack (SNF) and Defense (SPRN, ABM).
              Each version is intended for its audience.

              Therefore, everyone chooses what tastes better for him.
              Rocketeers choose the first, real ...
              And everything is described in detail on the GA forum, where veterans of the Strategic Missile Forces communicate, not the last people in the industry, etc.
              1. _Jack_
                _Jack_ 13 October 2017 13: 19 New
                +1
                but they clearly tell you that the situation has changed, not couch experts, not journalists, but the defense ministry says that now they can’t shoot down the accelerating trajectory, but in a few years they can, and you argue with the defense ministry, you are probably a professional and an expert in this field?
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 13 October 2017 13: 44 New
                  +1
                  Quote: _Jack_
                  you are clearly told that the situation has changed

                  ... come to the GA and you can lay out your thoughts, "participles" can answer you in detail and in pictures, for example, Tag:
                  Вinterview: Poznihir seems to have said that it would take the Americans only 150 seconds to hit our ICBMs.
                  Answer: What Poznihir carried there at the next “conference” is his personal problems.
                  The spacecraft echelon of SPIRAU States is designed in such a way that only at the notch start of ICBMs, even in Vypolzovo about a minute is needed.
                  They are so arranged, these spacecraft, details have already been given here. Do I have to repeat it?
                  And there will be no details of the ICBM trajectory for target designation until the second or third steps of these Yars jump out due to the radio horizon, and you can try to clarify, at least approximately on the basis of the SRPSAU radar data, elements of the trajectory of these by no means ballistic targets.
                  1. AUT of modern Russian ballistic missiles is somewhere on the order of 120 seconds. The missile launch (exclusively ideally. Which is not consistent with common sense) at the 85 second. Destruction of the Russian ICBMs - at the 150 second. Actually, it’s already past the box office, since 30 has been breeding BO elements for already seconds. Well, skip this too.
                  But then the question is: where should the missile defense be based, what are its acceleration characteristics and its maximum speed so that it can hit a Russian missile flying over Siberia?
                  Can you give me at least some more or less justified combination of the parameters I mentioned above (highlighted by me in bold) that would allow, at least theoretically, to intercept even the relatively slow Satan, starting from Uzhur or Dombarovsky?
                  I'm not talking about Poplars and Yars, in which the AUTs are much shorter (those same order 120 sec).
                  Notes:
                  1. Interception on the passive atmosphere-free section of the BB flight is not to be offered - there, each BB is accompanied by a "flock of comrades" from the support group of the joint venture ABM, in an amount equal to doher for each of this BB. Cool
                  2. And on passive atmospheric (entrance to the atmosphere) - also not to offer. In my time, a self-respecting BB passed him in less than a minute. And from the "pack of comrades" there remain "friends" who cover "up to the last kilometer."
                  And the summary: One can only hope for Boeings with lazars constantly bartering over the Orenburg region and the Krasnoyarsk Territory.

                  You have to understand that the current generation of American generals, and managers in general, is unable to include the area of ​​the brain responsible for decision-making without pictures from the super-point, and even better, 3 max.
                  1. _Jack_
                    _Jack_ 13 October 2017 14: 52 New
                    +1
                    come to GA and you can lay out your thoughts

                    Once again for the dull - I do not post my point of view here. If the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation declares something from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, then he does not represent his point of view and not a narrow group of persons, this is the official position of the Ministry of Defense. And references to the opposite points of view of some experts are irrelevant. Not that scale.
                    Well, the Defense Ministry is not your authority. What about the commander in chief and the president of the Russian Federation?
                    In an interview with Oliver Stone, Putin said almost the same thing about the threat to our ICBMs from Europro - “We know roughly what year the Americans will receive a new missile, which will not be more than 500 kilometers, but more, and from that moment they will begin to threaten our nuclear potential "We know what will happen over the years. And they know what we know."
                    But you, of course, have more objective information on this issue than the General Staff and the President.
                    1. Rus2012
                      Rus2012 13 October 2017 15: 02 New
                      +1
                      Quote: _Jack_
                      Once again for the dull - I do not post my point of view here. If the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

                      ..agree with the official statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
                      They have already been laid out, brought to the audience for which it was intended.
                      What are you discussing here then?

                      We know the other side of the matter. And we know what will happen next ...
                      1. _Jack_
                        _Jack_ 13 October 2017 15: 04 New
                        +1
                        I have no more questions. At least now I will know who to ask for clarification when the president and the general staff say all sorts of nonsense.
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                      1. Svateev
                        Svateev 14 October 2017 15: 22 New
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                        Quote: Rus2012
                        they did not authorize me to give dopinfo

                        Who would doubt that...
                  3. Svateev
                    Svateev 15 October 2017 10: 43 New
                    0
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    The space echelon of the SPIRAU spacecraft is designed in such a way that it takes about a minute to start the launch of ICBMs only, even in Vypolzovo.
                    They are so arranged, these spacecraft, details have already been given here. Do I have to repeat it?

                    Is there something to repeat? Do a favor!
                    And be sure to indicate when and where the United States gave you the opportunity to study the structure of their spacecraft and explore the capabilities of these spacecraft to notch the launch of our ICBMs.
                    And then we will discuss the "inability" of the US missile defense to intercept our ICBMs.
                    1. Rus2012
                      Rus2012 15 October 2017 11: 08 New
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                      Quote: Svateev
                      Is there something to repeat? Do a favor!

                      ... stop trolling!
                      One post - rubbed, everything will not calm down ...
                      1. Svateev
                        Svateev 15 October 2017 11: 21 New
                        0
                        Quote: Rus2012
                        ... stop trolling!

                        suggested the troll ...
          2. Svateev
            Svateev 14 October 2017 10: 40 New
            0
            Quote: Rus2012
            Anti-ballistic missile defense system SM-3 in Romania cannot intercept Russian strategic nuclear forces missiles

            You, like American experts, for some reason "forget" about naval missile defense in the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea. And we are talking about ship missile defense:
            "the results of modeling by Russian specialists of the intercepts by the US missile defense system of Russian ballistic missiles, in particular shipborne missiles from the Baltic and Norwegian seas,

            More on TASS:
            http://tass.ru/politika/4641632"
            And in your picture, the trajectory of our ICBMs passes just over the Baltic Sea and the Norwegian Sea.
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 14 October 2017 12: 40 New
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              Quote: Svateev
              And in your picture, the trajectory of our ICBMs passes just over the Baltic Sea and the Norwegian Sea.

              ... besides, you still find yourself poorly aware of the topic ?!
              Calculate the path of the ICBMs according to the heights they reach to the borders of the Russian Federation. Especially in the area of ​​SevLedOkeana. Let us leave aside about other circumstances (“masking launches”, “masking strike”, preventive cleaning of advanced enemy missile defense systems ...)
              With all this, they do not know the launch point, the exact time ... how do you think they will build a lead? And most importantly - WHAT?

              In order for something to happen, at least they need to get out of the INF Treaty ...
              1. Svateev
                Svateev 15 October 2017 10: 56 New
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                Quote: Rus2012
                altitude ICBM trajectory, which they reach the borders of the Russian Federation.

                And the US missile defense will wait until our ICBMs cross the border of the Russian Federation ?! Did the Americans personally promise you this, or what?
                Ship-based missile defense from the Baltic Sea and the Norwegian Sea will intercept ICBMs on a heading course - ideal. And he will try to intercept the ICBMs as early as possible, even before breeding the BB.
                You, following the US experts on a blue eye, are proving that the ABM from ROMANIA cannot intercept the ICBMs launched in the USA. Nobody argues with that. Romanian missile defense is not intended to protect the United States, but to protect Europe.
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 15 October 2017 11: 23 New
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                  Quote: Svateev
                  Ship-based missile defense from the Baltic Sea and the Norwegian Sea will intercept ICBMs on a heading course - ideal. And he will try to intercept the ICBMs as early as possible, even before breeding the BB.

                  ... you were asked to prove the SIE with the digits - the height of the trajectory and in seconds, the time and coordinates of the true launch of the ICBM, the recorded start time (delta), the construction of the “calculated trajectory” of the ICBM (how and with what it is detected, instrument errors and calculation errors), the arrival of the team at the start of the missile defense, the lead point, the possibility of countering the estimated miss of the missile defense (energy) ... Given that even a simple Topol missile with a point on the active site is not a “ballistic target” ...

                  And tell all the tales!

                  PS: For all that, you are still not limited to the fact that "under the trajectory space" - at the time of passing the ICBMs and BBs - they will be "cleared" first and foremost. And they do not require selection from “camouflage launches” and “camouflage strikes”. And we are not talking about "maneuvering ICBMs" and "imaginary routes" ...
                  1. Svateev
                    Svateev 15 October 2017 11: 32 New
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                    Quote: Rus2012
                    prove SIE with the numbers

                    Do we need real digital cameras for our ICBMs ?! Hee hee ... This is not for me ...
                    And the one who convinces the political leadership of Russia of the impossibility of the US missile defense to intercept our ICBMs is either a fraudster or an enemy. Because he does not know and can’t know the real "numbers" of the US missile defense. Here only evaluative conclusions are possible.
                    Do you know what "grades" are? Or is this also necessary to explain?
              2. Svateev
                Svateev 15 October 2017 11: 15 New
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                Quote: Rus2012
                (“masking launches”, “masking strike”, preventive stripping of advanced anti-missile defense systems of the enemy ...)

                Well, it turns out you also know that interception is possible from the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea. But why then first replaced the thesis and vparivany Romanian missile defense?
                Now about the "masking starts and strokes." All this has some effectiveness, but this is exactly what - no one knows and does not know the real deal.
                Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right when he says that the missile defense is changing the nuclear balance between us and the United States. ABM gives Americans hope for an unpunished strike on us.
                We need to WORK as hard as it was during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already going on in the military design bureaus and in the military-industrial complex. And real launches - this will be the end of the third world war.
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 15 October 2017 12: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: Svateev
                  Do we need real digital cameras for our ICBMs ?! Hee hee ... This is not for me ...
                  And the one who convinces the political leadership of Russia of the impossibility of the US missile defense to intercept our ICBMs is either a fraudster or an enemy. Because he does not know and can’t know the real "numbers" of the US missile defense.


                  Quote: Svateev
                  Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right ...
                  We need to WORK as hard as it was during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already going on in the military design bureaus and in the military-industrial complex.


                  Even a superficial analysis of your posts makes it easy to guess the paid troll ...
                  When you are asked to "enter the topic" and give an easy school calculation of the 6-8 classes for constructing the movement of bodies, you will immediately: "This is not for me ..."
                  At the same time you demand with fury - TTX CA USA. Promising only then to continue the discussion. Since "not to me", then why the hell?
                  When you are given directions for an independent search, you try to put the last significant point in the dispute - "Who would doubt it ..."

                  When it smells like a ban for deeds, there are slogans:
                  Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right

                  and further, in bold -
                  We need to WORK as hard as it was during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already going on in the military design bureaus and in the military-industrial complex.

                  And then, the last slogan with a double bottom is whether sincere thoughts, but rather a call to get involved in an arms race, aka 80xx with sad consequences ...

                  Not weird? Does not remind the notorious "training manual"?
                  1. Svateev
                    Svateev 16 October 2017 16: 34 New
                    0
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Even a superficial analysis of your posts makes it easy to guess the paid troll ...

                    Analysis?! You?!! Where???
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    ve right away

                    Mi such ... mi immediately ...
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    demand with fury - TTX KA USA

                    Because "without" blinking, you declare that this is what American spacecraft can do. but they cannot. Here I am (sorry, “wyam”) and I suggest explaining where such peremptory confidence comes from?
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    you are given directions for independent search,

                    Look for yourself. And then it’s smart too - send others to look for ...
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    rather a call to get involved in an arms race, aka 80xx with sad consequences ...

                    Well, that liberal face was opened ...
                    No need to get involved in the "arms race" ?? Is this because of the "arms race" there were sad consequences? !!
                    How is this so blundered? Is it possible to apply this fad training manuals on this site? !!
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Does not remind the notorious "training manual"?

                    And here your roll on me is an innovation in your manuals. But they didn’t finish it, they didn’t finish it yet ... they got pierced ...
      2. raid14
        raid14 13 October 2017 13: 42 New
        0
        The trumpet is as mine as Nelson Mandela president for Koreans.
        About the increase in the US nuclear arsenal, say thanks to EBN and the HEU-LEU agreement
        an intergovernmental agreement between the Russian Federation and the United States of America, concluded in Washington on February 18, 1993, providing for the irreversible processing of at least 500 tons of Russian weapons-grade (highly enriched) uranium (equivalent to about 20 thousand nuclear warheads.
        non-intercepting yars

        Mobile-based 84 pieces of the entire 336 nuclear warheads
        Clubs with Clubs

        RS-26 "Frontier" or "Vanguard" was adopted only in 2017 until complete re-equipment from monoblock RS-2ПМ2 "Topol M" takes time.
        “Mace” in comparison with “Blue” is not very reliable, there are many unsuccessful launches.
        There will be no preemptive strike by Russian strategic nuclear forces against the United States.
        And the Chinese will not be economically profitable to fight the United States for Russian interests.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 13 October 2017 14: 03 New
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          Quote: raid14
          And the Chinese will not fight with the United States for Russian interests

          ... ha ha ha! ;)))
          And for their vital interests? And with the tacit (and not so) support of Russia?
          Quote: raid14
          There will be no preemptive strike by Russian strategic nuclear forces against the United States.

          ... who promised you this? ;)
          We no ...
          Quote: raid14
          “Mace” in comparison with “Blue” is not very reliable, there are many unsuccessful launches.

          ... but the simple thought that Mace survived the “detskie diseases” - doesn’t come? There is no doubt that everything in the world is changing and developing, and not preserved forever?

          Quote: = raid14
          RS-26 "Frontier" or "Vanguard" was adopted only in 2017 until complete re-equipment from monoblock RS-2ПМ2 "Topol M" takes time.

          ... it has already been reported to you and the exchange docks have been provided? ;))))))))))))
          Let it be known to you that Boundary will go only if your blunt-headed copper helmets do not understand that it is pointless to compete with the Russians and cross, as you like to call it, the “red line”.
          This trait is indicated and declared:
          - deployment of missile defense systems over a certain value and in certain territories (for this, the statement of the representative of the RF Ministry of Defense Alexander Emelyanov)
          - 3,14 output from DRSMD
          - your attempts to install convection ICBMs
          1. raid14
            raid14 13 October 2017 14: 15 New
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            Objective arguments are zero, one is a blasphemy, are you a case not from OOO Internet Research?
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 13 October 2017 15: 06 New
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              Quote: raid14
              Objective argument zero

              this is excerpts from the "manuals" and "zero" of knowledge ...;))))))
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 13 October 2017 14: 21 New
            +2
            ... and yes, about the Yars-Topoly-M -
            Mobile-based 84 pieces of the entire 336 nuclear warheads

            you don’t know again
            We have them - 174 on the database
            Of these, PGRK - 102!

            As for the "HEU-LEU agreement" - again in flight - you do not have the capacity for enrichment, from the word - at all!
            Unlike you, the whole cycle works for us. Yes, and old stocks, they say, there will still be enough years at 200 ...;))))))))))))

            In short, stock up on breadcrumbs, wash white socks, get ready for the inevitable "drain";)))
  6. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 13 October 2017 09: 00 New
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    And what remains for you to do: you need to somehow master the gigantic military budget, otherwise the printing press will be idle. Before that, there was SOI. The main thing is that Russia traditionally does not fit into the arms race with a logical outcome.
  7. bald
    bald 13 October 2017 09: 00 New
    +1
    As I understand it (complex instant global strike), replacing this: to a more perfect one, including everything at once! The question is where to hang it.
  8. anjey
    anjey 13 October 2017 09: 01 New
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    He stressed that “the creation of means of instant global strike is another factor that confirms Washington’s desire to destroy the current balance of power, to ensure global strategic domination.”
    one way road, to the end of the world ....
  9. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 13 October 2017 09: 09 New
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    I wonder what our defense industry is preparing in response? This turn of events does not suit us unequivocally ... I think that is why our focus on promising hypersonic developments ...........
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 October 2017 09: 22 New
      +1
      Our defense industry is preparing to cut the budget. There will be new ICBMs and air defense systems - missile defense and that’s all.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        and that is all

        ... said a member of the "military-industrial commission" !? ;))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 October 2017 00: 41 New
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          The rest at its own expense - the country's budget has long been no rubber.
  10. Berber
    Berber 13 October 2017 09: 11 New
    +1
    Restless what. SOI again?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 October 2017 09: 24 New
      +3
      Unlike SDI, the alleged global strike systems have already been implemented in hardware and tested - the Aegis missile defense system and the X 37 unmanned spacecraft.
      1. Berber
        Berber 16 October 2017 09: 50 New
        +1
        The very concept of a global strike against Russia has no prospects. Mathematically calculated model does not give any chances for the USA. We have too much to answer. Unexpectedly, it doesn’t work out unambiguously. Too much needs to be prepared in advance.
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 13 October 2017 09: 16 New
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    When I see this picture ...

    Hands itch, something to lose, the very middle ... that would be so ...
    .
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 13 October 2017 09: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Hands itch

      they also ... so, "scabies" mutual.
  12. tchoni
    tchoni 13 October 2017 09: 23 New
    0
    So what will irons do? We place the S-500 and the ichkander in Cuba?
  13. Mercenary
    Mercenary 13 October 2017 09: 24 New
    +1
    Russia and China need to accelerate the economic and financial collapse of the states. "Disease" is easier to prevent than to cure.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 04 New
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      Quote: Mercenary
      accelerate the economic and financial collapse of states

      ... nevertheless, at the beginning of an "uncontrollable house" on the "hell" - the main problem remains the control of their SNA. "If an assignment is required (taking control) ..." (c)
  14. Малый
    Малый 13 October 2017 09: 25 New
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    Disarmament strike ... on Russia and China .... Finally decides the fate of AI and friends !!!! There are no words one mat ....
  15. I doubt it
    I doubt it 13 October 2017 09: 29 New
    +2
    Only Russia, not even close to the USSR. Thanks to the efforts of GDP and Co. + all who have been to them since 82, the country is in such an OPE that there is nothing and nothing to answer by and large. It remains only to cheek cheeks, statements, concerns for the fate of the world to express. But this is all right with us ...
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 13 October 2017 09: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    But this is an alarming bell. This is not SOI for you .... Let our scientists now think what to oppose this case.

    Is it worth it to get so excited ???
    Another bullshit ... type SOI !!!
    What, lately something new super-lethal appeared? something based on new principles, something that others do not have and is not expected ???
    NOTHING!!!
    The weapon invented "yesterday or even the day before" is being systematically improved / modernized ... scientists certainly koumekut \ invent something new, BUT no means of secrecy can hide the test of something a super-duper miracle of weapons, especially of mass destruction !!!
    So, that everything is very similar to a breeder with a goal ... you yourself understand why.
    The Yusovites have (the inheritance from the British) the most lethal weapon that they successfully use - donkey with a bag of gold !!! Old as the world, but the action is killer !!!
    So let's expect a hit on the financial front ... more likely.
    PS I suppose that our scientists, the military-industrial complex, are also developing something like that, once it is ... uhhh and in half !!!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 07 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      donkey with a bag of gold !!!

      ... maybe fortunately, but they say - "there was only an empty bag" with an old donkey :)))))))))))))))))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 October 2017 13: 52 New
        +3
        Is it so??? There is no talk about newly printed candy wrappers, although they can play their own!
        For the sake of such an event, they can be thrown off by their capitalist / democratic international! After all, we have many “eternal friends” in this world! And then, it’s not necessary to carry gold bags to the gates of the city !!! It’s enough to hand out small handfuls in the right pocket, and even more promises to give out !!!
        I, that bucha, arranged at the doorstep, at our CLOSE neighbors, really made me think about a lot ... dive into history and make sure that everything repeats in this world.
        Nobody came up with anything new, just thanks to modern technology, it became easier to realize all sorts of contagious ideas ... one thing is constant, you need a LOT of money.
  17. askort154
    askort154 13 October 2017 09: 40 New
    +2
    The Americans are once again bluffing. The goal is to draw Russia into a military race, hoping to kill the Russian Federation economically. Nothing new, the same strategy that was against the USSR.
  18. andrewkor
    andrewkor 13 October 2017 09: 41 New
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    I wonder on what famous physical principles this "instant global blow" is based on. Besides teleportation, nothing comes to mind in the morning.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2017 09: 49 New
    +1
    Washington’s desire to destroy the existing balance of power, ensure global strategic dominance

    By and large, we also need to strive for this. National security interests are paramount.
  20. valent45
    valent45 13 October 2017 09: 56 New
    0
    Whatever the instant global blow, retaliation for the US will be
    certainly! Are they so stupefied there ?! Over your favorites, your mother!
  21. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2017 09: 59 New
    +2
    Someone in the forest, some for firewood. One deputy minister punches himself in the chest and broadcasts that the domestic "Hypersonic maneuvering blocks" will break through any missile defense system, the second now speaks of these systems as a threat.

    Quote: SERGE ANT
    But this is an alarming bell. This is not SOI for you .... Let our scientists now think what to oppose this case.

    So far this call is just being thought, not done. And it is as unrealistic in the next 20-30 years, as in the 80s-was unrealistic SDI program

    Quote: Anarchist
    It would be regrettable, but in the case of a hint of imbalance it will be necessary to strike at the USA! Because they will do it as soon as possible ...

    It is not necessary to consider Americans as full I.D.otami. An imbalance in strategic systems always exists and this is not a reason to launch a nuclear strike on the other side immediately. In order to make such a decision, there must already be no imbalance, but the total superiority of some over others.
    And an imbalance has existed all the years of the development of strategic nuclear weapons. First on bombers, then on missiles, then on warheads. Now it also exists. But in some ways, the imbalance is in our favor, in something in favor of the Americans.

    Quote: japs
    I agree with you, the first thought immediately that the showman Trump is trying to repeat the success of his idol Roni Reagan. And he has more chances.

    He has no chances. Chatter and political statements are one thing, reality is another. For example, he intends to increase the number of interceptor missiles to 2022 units by 1000. How is he going to do this if the purchases of Standard-type interceptors (capable of intercepting only the BRDS) are limited to an average of 35-40 per year (now they have about 400 of these interceptors). The number of THAAD systems - 1-2 batteries per year (that is, 4 launchers and 3 dozen interceptors), the number of strategic GBI interceptors - 4-6 pieces per year. This is the same as saying that until that time we will release half a hundred strategists TU-160. Terms are not just unrealistic, they are impossible.
    As for the strike systems of weapons. What let me ask them at the exit? Their complex Falcon with hypersonic percussion devices? So he flew EMNIP a couple of times several years ago. Hypersonic air-to-surface missiles? The last time we experienced EMNIP was the year 2013 - now silence. ICBM-based striking non-nuclear forces? So then they need to reduce the number of carriers of their nuclear component. Even without prolonging the START-3 treaty, they will not be able to get advantages in this direction for banal reasons. Installing such systems in open areas is stupid. The number of un-destroyed silos is reduced. And what to put? "Minutemen"? “Tridents”, but if the pledges still have a more or less normal KVO, then this is not the case with the “Minutemans,” out of 400 units of which only 50 are equipped with the MK-21 system from the MX.

    Quote: Logall
    This ally will deal with bases in Japan and the Republic of Kazakhstan. In Guam, more ...

    It can deal with part of the bases, only after that it ceases to exist.

    Quote: BerBer
    This is pure bluff. Firstly: whatever the pro-air defense, there are always loopholes. For example, you can equip Caliber with a nuclear warhead. Secondly, their missile defense systems do not reach the counteraction to our strategic nuclear forces. Maximum SCADA. Banal cut dough. Military factories work - people get kickbacks.

    I agree that this is pure bluff. But I do not agree that their missile defense is exclusively against SCADS. Should not be underestimated. Of the GBI interceptors, they have a range of up to 5000 km and an altitude reach of 2000. Their interceptor speed is sufficient to intercept ICBMs. The question is on a different plane. They have few of them. Enough to intercept North Korean missiles, but not enough even to intercept Chinese ones. Therefore, in their development, there is such an idea as a preemptive strike on Chinese strategic missile forces in order to "thin out" their numbers. Togad missile defense of the North American continent will be able to stop the remaining ones.
    stop Russian strategic nuclear forces NOT ABLE and they do not claim to be capable, claiming that the missile defense is not against us. In fact, this is so

    Quote: johnik
    Gentlemen believe the word ...

    Do not take a word. But remember that as someone said: I DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS, IT IS ENOUGH TO ME TO KNOW YOUR OPPORTUNITIES. Therefore, it is possible to “suck” the statements of Americans thousands of times that this is against us, but you just need to know the capabilities of these missile defense systems. And they NOT AGAINST US. For this, what is called these systems INTESTINE TONK

    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, let them sit and are afraid even to hint at the developments, and even more so the adoption of the means of an instant global strike.

    Hint exclusively for people. Specialists on both sides are well aware of each other's capabilities.
    1. Koshel2901
      Koshel2901 13 October 2017 10: 51 New
      0
      Specialists yes, they see. But common Western schizophrenia may wish to send specialists in three letters and then ... ???
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Someone in the forest, some for firewood. One deputy minister punches himself in the chest and broadcasts that the domestic "Hypersonic maneuvering blocks" will break through any missile defense system, the second now speaks of these systems as a threat.

      ... these are just Statements by representatives of TWO different structures within the framework of a single MO system.
      With different purposes: Means of attack (SNF) and Defense (SPRN, ABM).
      Just a broadcast in two versions ... :)))
      Each version is intended for its audience.
  22. Monarchist
    Monarchist 13 October 2017 09: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: johnik
    Gentlemen believe the word ...

    Where do you see a gentleman? Personally, I don’t see a gentleman;
  23. pvv113
    pvv113 13 October 2017 10: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: Anarchist
    in the event of a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the USA

    Just a little - we always have time to apologize wink
  24. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 13 October 2017 10: 34 New
    0
    This is a good topic for Russian electronic warfare systems.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 50 New
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      Quote: bratchanin3
      This is a good topic for Russian electronic warfare systems.

      The global system of "radio-electronic suppression", based on the principles of N. Tesla
      At one time, during the time of the Brezhnev-Humpbacked Union, they did not move to this. Trusted 3,14ndos. Now it's time ...;)))
      1. bratchanin3
        bratchanin3 15 October 2017 09: 07 New
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        Unfortunately, I don’t know anything about this. In this case, where will GLONAS, GPS, etc. be? No, selective suppression systems are needed.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 15 October 2017 11: 43 New
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          Quote: bratchanin3
          In this case, where will GLONAS, GPS, etc. be? No, selective suppression systems are needed.

          ... in the "right areas" there will be an extensive "Northern Lights", where navigation problems are always acute. Plus, with the "Tunguska meteorite effects" in the full set ...

          By the way, our Armed Forces have always been trained to work in the "North" and navigate in "grandfather ways": astronavigation on radio tubes ... and so on and so forth ...;)))
          So ...
  25. Will
    Will 13 October 2017 10: 48 New
    +1
    Well, how not to calm down ... recourse
  26. unignm
    unignm 13 October 2017 11: 00 New
    0
    and this crap since Soviet times scare you. not tired?
  27. coffee
    coffee 13 October 2017 11: 04 New
    0
    What will happen if the DPRK is tested, its missile will lose its orientation and will burst into our space. Is it possible to expect that it will provoke a dead hand and all of our missiles will fly to the United States.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2017 12: 52 New
      0
      Quote: coffee
      her rocket will lose its orientation and will burst into our space.

      /// just work APR (emergency missile blasting) ...
  28. assa67
    assa67 13 October 2017 11: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: vovanpain
    Quote: Logall
    India and Turkey will wait aside to join the winner!

    There Sanya there will be nothing to adjoin, only ashes and such little animals here. hi drinks

    Wow!!! belay ... do you think Klimkin will survive?
    1. assa67
      assa67 13 October 2017 11: 43 New
      +3
      and, in general, what kind of means are these? ... not nuclear ...
  29. Victor-M
    Victor-M 13 October 2017 13: 01 New
    0
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    But this is an alarming bell. This is not SOI for you .... Let our scientists now think what to oppose this case.

    Already found, Yellowstone Volcano, all the warheads there. laughing
  30. Old26
    Old26 14 October 2017 01: 54 New
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    A blank flies from a distant stratosphere - and hello launcher BR

    Open sources claim that in order to break through the mine’s protective device (the “cover”, if simple), two ammunition of 2 meter caliber KVO is needed. a rocket cannot do this

    Quote: Rus2012
    APR (missile emergency blast) will simply work.

    And after that they’ll knock on Eun’s head so that it’s not bad
  31. ROM1077
    ROM1077 14 October 2017 10: 56 New
    0
    it is necessary to nuclear fugasik dip mail to send a Washington nuerk and leave there in case of war. and then quickly activate if that
  32. Old26
    Old26 14 October 2017 12: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: _Jack_
    Once again for the dull - I do not post my point of view here. If the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation declares something from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, then he does not represent his point of view and not a narrow group of persons, this is the official position of the Ministry of Defense

    Comrad. Even the official representative of the Ministry of Defense not only can and loves to carry the blizzard. Before that, there were two of them in the Ministry of Defense - Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov and the aforementioned Poznihir - Deputy Head of the State Educational Institution. Now added a third - Emelyanov. They sometimes say things that diverge not only from logic, but also with common sense. Therefore, you should not always take their word for it.

    If the Deputy Minister of Defense tells us that we can deliver to the Americans via the South Pole 10 tonnes worth of goods, despite the fact that, as he writes, the rocket will be “hundred-ton,” tell me, should I trust him? He or his knowledge and experience? And in general, almost any official broadcasting in the media can be trusted with caution. For example, I hear from local media that the wages of cultural workers in our region exceed 18 thousand rubles (a fork from 18 to 25). And this is from the words of the Minister of Culture of the region. But I ask the guys. who work there - it turns out there are no such salaries. They are at the level of 11-12 thousand. . So there is simply no faith in the official
    And it doesn’t matter whether it is an official of the Ministry of Culture, the Ministry of Health or the Ministry of Defense. More or less, you can only trust the first persons at the federal level ...
  33. Rus2012
    Rus2012 14 October 2017 21: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Svateev

    Who would doubt that...

    Incontinence? The desire to always be extreme?
    Or puntik "manuals requires"? :)))))
    Sorry...
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 15 October 2017 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Rus2012
      Incontinence? The desire to always be extreme?

      And for you? Do not find ?!
  34. Rus2012
    Rus2012 15 October 2017 11: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Svateev

    suggested the troll ...

    ... the "training manual" is sometimes wiped ... it seems stuck
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 16 October 2017 16: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Rus2012
      training manual

      Stuck ...