The Pentagon has begun creating instant global strike capabilities

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The Pentagon has begun creating promising instant global strike systems, reports RIA News message from the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense Alexander Emelyanov.





Implementing the concept of joint use of offensive and defensive weapons, the Pentagon began to create promising strike systems for instant global strike,
Yemelyanov said on the sidelines of the first committee of the UN General Assembly.

He noted that “in non-nuclear equipment, these complexes should solve the same tasks that are assigned to strategic nuclear forces today.”

The relationship between plans to deploy a missile defense system and create instant global strike capabilities is obvious. When delivering a “disarming” strike against Russian and Chinese strategic nuclear forces, the effectiveness of the American missile defense system increases significantly,
Emelyanov said.

He emphasized that “the creation of means of an instant global strike is another factor that confirms Washington’s desire to destroy the existing balance of power and ensure global strategic dominance.”

The representative of the Russian department also pointed out that the reconnaissance means of the American missile defense system “are capable of not only detecting the launch of Russian missiles, but also providing target designations for intercepting their warheads.” According to Emelyanov, “the fire capabilities of the US missile defense system, taking into account their modernization, pose a threat to the Russian deterrence potential.”

Emelyanov noted that the American system also threatens security in space. The Americans' anti-missile capabilities will reach a new level as a result of expanding the low-orbit detection system: data will be transmitted from the satellite to the anti-missile missile, he added.
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  1. +18
    13 October 2017 08:35
    But this is an alarm bell. This is not SDI for you... Let our scientists now think about what to oppose to this matter.
    1. +28
      13 October 2017 08:39
      No matter how regrettable it may be, if there is a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the USA! Because they will do it at the first opportunity...
      1. +6
        13 October 2017 08:45
        Here we cannot exclude a repetition of the situation with “Star Wars”, which was once announced by Comrade. Reagan
        1. +11
          13 October 2017 08:57
          I agree with you, the first thought immediately is that showman Trump is trying to repeat the success of his idol Rony Reagan.
          And he has more chances. With so many liberals in the Russian government, there will be plenty of whining about how we lost the arms race.
      2. +14
        13 October 2017 08:45
        Quote: Anarchist
        if there is a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the USA! ...

        stop ...In queue soldier
        1. +17
          13 October 2017 08:59
          This ally will deal with bases in Japan and the Republic of Korea.
          On Guam... Russia will have to cope with the USA and China.
          With Europe only Russia. India and Turkey will wait on the sidelines to join the winner!
          1. +9
            13 October 2017 09:12
            Quote: Logall
            India and Turkey will wait on the sidelines to join the winner!

            There, Sanya will have nothing to live with, only ashes and little animals like this. hi drinks
            1. +3
              October 13, 2017 09:17
              Brother, be healthy!hi drinks You also drew a very funny picture. They can be creepy and it looks like they could turn out even worse. If at all there is anything left besides bacteria and slipper ciliates...
              1. +9
                October 13, 2017 09:25
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Can krakozyabl and

                Hello brother drinks hiAfter Chernobyl, a whole state of skakuzyablov was formed there. wink
                1. +3
                  13 October 2017 09:32
                  I’m thinking: what happened in Matrasiya? Obviously something more nuclear than Chernobyl... recourse
                  1. +16
                    October 13, 2017 10:59
                    ''Plutonium cookies'' crumbled.
                    Greetings, comrades!
                2. 0
                  14 October 2017 16:10
                  I like this:
              2. +1
                October 13, 2017 09:45
                Cockroaches are still very tenacious, they live right in the reactors.
          2. +1
            13 October 2017 22:03
            Quote: Logall
            will have to cope with the USA and China .
            With Europe only Russia. India and Turkey will wait on the sidelines to join the winner !


            And China, most likely, in the event of a steep mix-up, will step aside, observe, and at the right moment will strike where it will be beneficial for HIM...
            There is nothing to particularly count on military brotherhood with China...
            He won’t attack us himself (during our fight with the USA-NATO) - and thank you for that...
      3. +3
        13 October 2017 08:50
        Quote: Anarchist
        they will do it at the first opportunity...

        They will do it without a moment's hesitation!!!!! All the preparatory work to discredit and throw slop at the USSR and RUSSIA has been carried out a long time ago and is being carried out constantly!!!!
      4. +2
        13 October 2017 14:59
        Well, everything is going that way... in the next news - helicopters are sailing by sea to Riga... well, let's connect the MTR, let that lakhan drown before reaching Riga, as Israel does - we are threatened by this and that - fuck off - and they covered us, Well, what about us? if swinging is unavoidable... choose the moment to strike, otherwise they will accumulate and instigate... and democratize at one opportune moment...
    2. +1
      October 13, 2017 08:51
      And here's how it detonates at the launch site.
    3. BAI
      0
      13 October 2017 08:58
      As a rule, defensive means are cheaper than offensive means. By the way, this is also true regarding strategic missiles and missile defense.
      1. +3
        October 13, 2017 09:17
        This is pure bluff. Firstly: no matter what kind of air defense there is, there are always loopholes. For example, you can equip Calibers with a nuclear warhead. Secondly, their anti-missile defenses are not up to the task of countering our strategic nuclear weapons. Maximum SCUDs. A banal cut of money. Military factories are working - people are receiving kickbacks.
        1. 0
          13 October 2017 13:03
          “no matter how pro-air defense there are, there are always loopholes” ////

          True.

          This also applies to Russian air defense. “Secondly, their anti-missile defenses are not up to the task of countering our strategic nuclear weapons.” ////

          And no one argues with this.
          Missile defense is just in its infancy. But it has nothing to do with the topic. The Americans think: “Why hit an ICBM silo with a nuclear charge if the accuracy today allows you to put a conventional armor-piercing concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher?”
          1. +4
            October 13, 2017 20:00
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Why hit an ICBM silo with a nuclear charge if today’s accuracy allows you to put a conventional armor-piercing concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher?”

            Warrior, hi
            Alexey, if the attack weapon is deprived of the possibility of astro-correction/GPS guidance, then the usual (conventional) charge may not be enough due to aiming errors... This is not a megaton shock wave shaking the silo and the surrounding area... But the fact that ours will burn out brains from their satellite group - don’t go to the rabbi! This is what the threatened period is for...
            Somehow, though!
            1. +4
              13 October 2017 20:16
              I agree with this.
              But not all US steps in creating new weapons are directed against Russia. The world is dynamic, and every decade creates new threats. The states do not want to look for tactical solutions for every case, but to have universal strong weapons, moreover, conventional ones, so as not to bother with violating treaties. A blank arrives from the distant stratosphere - and hello to the launch vehicle of some future Ayatollah N. And no violations of airspace, no violations of nuclear treaties. Peace and quiet - the enemy is neutralized.
              1. +1
                16 October 2017 08:38
                “Instant global impact” is from the realm of science fiction. This requires preparation. Events of this magnitude will not go unnoticed. So the idea itself is crazy.
          2. +1
            13 October 2017 21:33
            Quote: voyaka uh
            They think: “Why hit an ICBM silo with a nuclear charge if today’s accuracy allows you to put a conventional armor-piercing concrete-piercing ammunition right in the middle of the hatch and disable the launcher?”

            ...you have stereotyped thinking, don't you think?

            If people have built a mine, then they already have a warning system that the mine is under attack. Accordingly, the response time (immediate launch) will be less than the ammunition reaches the target...
            If they cannot provide this, there will be mobile launchers...
            And if there is both, then people are insured and increase their resilience and flexibility to counteract.
            Therefore, there is no need to delude yourself. And consider yourself more cunning than a potential enemy...
            1. 0
              13 October 2017 22:09
              The mine is just an example.
              The Americans want to be able to hit any point on the globe with precision conventional weapons within an hour or an hour and a half from the moment of the order. Not to destroy the city, but an important small object. What will a potential enemy come up with? - that's his business.
    4. +2
      13 October 2017 09:41
      Well, what kind of nonsense is that.... even if WE ALL stupidly blow up the missiles in our storage places, then the northern fox will come to the planet... And if we die right away, then the “partners” will taste all the delights of the consequences, and having time to curse themselves, more than one a thousand times sitting in dying bunkers underground...
    5. +3
      13 October 2017 09:47
      Quote: SERGE ant
      Let our scientists now think about what to oppose to this matter.

      Everything has been invented a long time ago...Status-6. Well, the project of anti-ship missiles Zircon, BZHRD Baguzin, etc...
      Implementing the concept of joint use of offensive and defensive weapons, the Pentagon began to create promising strike systems for instant global strike,

      That is, a means of ATTACK. The USA really exudes peacefulness. wassat
    6. +1
      13 October 2017 10:25
      We need these too.
      Well, it wouldn’t hurt to surround the perimeter of Ameripedia with “statuses”...
      Hypersound and Statuses are our everything. And let the descendants of thieves and prostitutes fight in hysterics with fear.
    7. 0
      October 13, 2017 11:27
      Quote: SERGE ant
      Let our scientists think now

      And the rest are not able to think?
    8. 0
      15 October 2017 09:39
      Listen, we have been fed for the last decades that the United States, if anything, is capable of delivering a global strike and they have everything, well, they started doing it, starting doesn’t mean doing it, a few more administrations will change, the F-35 has been sawing for thirty years, the missile defense system is even more dubious results, and what else can we expect from the USA to “get our hands on the mountain”? Everything is expected, the main thing is to scare some “wonderwaffe” more, you just need to breathe out and work!
  2. +9
    13 October 2017 08:35
    US Comments: This system is not directed against Russia, take our word for it.
    1. +3
      13 October 2017 08:45
      Well, of course.!!!!!
      Quote: bagr69
      US Comments: This system is not directed against Russia, take our word for it.

      It's like what HITLER would have said after September 1, 1939:
      ""I'm not against the USSR, I just went for a walk""
      1. +2
        13 October 2017 09:12
        As a historian, I want to correct you. On September 1, 1939, Hitler was not formally against the USSR, because it was an agreement. But on June 22!
        1. +1
          13 October 2017 09:52
          He probably wasn’t formally against the USSR on June 21 either.
        2. +1
          13 October 2017 09:56
          Quote: PalBor
          On September 1, 1939, Hitler was not formally against the USSR, because it was a treaty.
          That's what we're talking about, which is very formal.!!!!!!
    2. 0
      13 October 2017 09:09
      Gentlemen are taken at their word...
  3. +5
    13 October 2017 08:40
    The Pentagon has begun creating promising instant global strike systems,
    I even know a country in conflict with which they can test this system and the very concept.... DPRK.
  4. +4
    13 October 2017 08:44
    The Pentagon has already begun creating instant global strike capabilities
    How lovely. Shouldn't we announce the adoption of nuclear “counter-time”? feel Let me explain
    This is a premeditated movement used against a fighter who is constantly trying to counter or counterattack at the moment of your attack, that is, against a fighter who begins his counterattack as soon as his opponent makes any attacking movement.
    Let them sit and be afraid to even hint about the development, much less adoption, of instant global strike weapons.
    I almost forgot, this is not our method. We are constantly on the defensive. And we constantly apologize for something, make excuses recourse
  5. +3
    13 October 2017 08:58
    The article is bashfully silent on his statement on the American missile defense system.
    “According to the conclusions of Russian experts, the Standard-3 anti-missile missiles of modification 2A, which are expected to be deployed from 2018, will be capable of intercepting strategic ballistic missiles not only in the middle and final, but also in the ascending part of the missiles’ flight path, which makes it possible to hit ballistic missiles up to moment of disengagement of warheads,” he clarified.
    According to Emelyanov, the number of interceptor missiles in the US missile defense system will exceed 1 thousand units by 2022, and in the future it will exceed the number of warheads on Russian intercontinental missiles.


    More details on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/politika/4641632
    1. 0
      October 13, 2017 11:57
      Quote: raid14
      The article is bashfully silent on his statement on the American missile defense system.


      “Your trumpet” said something even more mocking -
      US President Donald Trump said during a meeting with world leaders this summer that he wants to increase the US nuclear arsenal tenfold, NBC News reports.

      Therefore, no doubt, we have a lot of things already in hardware that we can guarantee to cover in response: uninterceptable Yars and Borders with Maces. Second wave strike - X-102. There will be a SuperSarmat and a new elusive BZHRK
      Better yet, we can do it preventatively!
      And most importantly - together with our Chinese brothers...
      1. +1
        13 October 2017 12:11
        The fact of the matter is that they are “uninterceptable” at the final part of the trajectory, but at the start they are very interceptible. What is this conversation about?
        the deployment of which is expected from 2018, will be capable of intercepting strategic ballistic missiles not only in the middle and final, but also in the ascending part of the missiles’ flight trajectory, which makes it possible to hit ballistic missiles before the warheads are disengaged
        1. +1
          13 October 2017 12:56
          Quote: _Jack_
          The fact of the matter is that they are “uninterceptable” at the final part of the trajectory, but at the start they are very interceptible.

          learn materiel!

          The missile defense system with the SM-3 anti-missile missile in Romania cannot intercept Russian strategic nuclear forces missiles either in range or in terms of time balance. The film shows the conditions that are most favorable for the enemy and unfavorable for the Russian Federation. The coverage area shown is for the SM-3 block 2 anti-missile missile, which does not yet exist, and it is unclear whether it will be manufactured. For strategic nuclear forces missiles, an area as close as possible to Romania was taken and targeting was carried out along the east coast of the United States, i.e. with the firing plane inclined as far as possible to the west.
          1. +2
            13 October 2017 12:59
            Your “learn materiel!” send to the Russian Ministry of Defense. I quoted not my own words, but the statement of the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Alexander Emelyanov. So advise him to teach the materiel if you are more competent in this matter than the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
            the deployment of which is expected from 2018, will be capable of intercepting strategic ballistic missiles not only in the middle and final, but also in the ascending part of the missiles’ flight trajectory, which makes it possible to hit ballistic missiles before the warheads are disengaged
            1. +1
              13 October 2017 13:13
              Quote: _Jack_
              Your “learn materiel!” send to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

              eco vi restless!
              Below I answered your thesis on Emelyanov...
              ...these are just statements by representatives of TWO different structures within the same defense system.
              With different purposes: Offensive (strategic nuclear forces) and defensive (early warning systems, missile defense).
              Each version is intended for its own audience.

              Therefore, everyone chooses what tastes best to him.
              The rocket scientists choose the first, real...
              And everything is described in detail on the Civil Aviation forum, where veterans of the Strategic Missile Forces, not the least people in industry, etc., communicate...
              1. +1
                13 October 2017 13:19
                They clearly tell you that the situation has changed, not armchair experts, not journalists, but the Ministry of Defense says that now they cannot shoot down on the accelerating trajectory, but in a few years they will be able to, and you keep arguing with the Ministry of Defense, you are apparently a professional and expert in this field?
                1. +1
                  13 October 2017 13:44
                  Quote: _Jack_
                  they clearly tell you that the situation has changed

                  ...come to the GA and you can post your thoughts, “those involved” can answer you in detail and in pictures, for example TAG:
                  To the poll : Poznikhir seems to have said that the Americans will need only 150 seconds to hit our ICBMs.
                  Answer: What Poznikhir was saying at the next “conference” was his personal problems.
                  The space echelon of the US SPRYAU spacecraft is designed in such a way that it takes about a minute .
                  This is how they are structured, these spacecraft; the details have already been given here.
                  Should I repeat it? And there will be no details of the trajectory of ICBMs for developing target designation until the second or third stages of these “Yars” jump out from behind the radio horizon, and it is possible, at least approximately based on the SRPYAU radar data, to try to clarify the elements of the trajectory of these by no means ballistic targets.
                  1. OUT of modern Russian ballistic missiles is somewhere around 120 seconds.
                  The anti-missile launches (exclusively ideally, which is not consistent with common sense) at the 85th second. Destruction of a Russian ICBM - at the 150th second. Actually, it’s already past the cash register, since the dilution of the BO elements has already been going on for about 30 seconds. Okay, let's skip that too. But then the question is: where should the anti-missile be based, what are its acceleration characteristics and its maximum speed so that it can hit a Russian missile flying over Siberia?
                  Can you give at least some more or less reasonable combination of the above parameters (highlighted by me in bold), which would allow, at least theoretically, to intercept even a relatively slow Satan starting from Uzhur or Dombarovsky?
                  I'm not even talking about Poplars and Yars, whose OUT is much shorter (those are about 120 seconds).
                  Notes:
                  1. Do not offer interception on the passive non-atmospheric phase of the BB flight - there, each BB is accompanied by a “flock of comrades” from the support group of the joint venture missile defense, in an amount equal to a shitload of each BB. Krutoy
                  2. And on passive atmospheric (entrance to atmosphere) - also not to offer.
                  In my time, a self-respecting BB passed through it in less than a minute. And from the “flock of comrades” there remain “friends” who cover “until the last kilometer.” And summary: We can only hope for Boeings with lazars, constantly patrolling over the Orenburg and Krasnoyarsk Territories. Merry

                  You must understand - the current generation of American generals, and managers in general, without pictures from powerpoint, or even better, 3dmax, include the area of ​​​​the brain responsible for decision making, unable.
                  1. +1
                    13 October 2017 14:52
                    come to the GA and you can post your thoughts

                    Once again for those who do not understand, I am not expressing my point of view here. If an official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense says something from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, then he does not represent his point of view or a narrow group of people, this is the official position of the Ministry of Defense. And references to the opposing points of view of some experts are irrelevant. Wrong scale.
                    Well, okay, the Ministry of Defense is not your authority. What about the commander in chief and the president of the Russian Federation?
                    In an interview with Oliver Stone, Putin said almost the same thing about the threat to our ICBMs from European missiles - “We know approximately in what year the Americans will receive a new missile, which will no longer be 500 kilometers, but more, and from that moment they will begin to threaten our nuclear potential . We know from the years what will happen. And they know that we know."
                    But you, of course, have more objective information on this issue than the General Staff and the President.
                    1. +1
                      13 October 2017 15:02
                      Quote: _Jack_
                      Once again for those who do not understand, I am not expressing my point of view here. If the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense

                      ..remain in agreement with the official statement of the RF Ministry of Defense.
                      They have already been posted, brought to the audience for which it was intended.
                      What are you discussing here then?

                      We know the other side of the matter. And we know what will happen next...
                      1. +1
                        13 October 2017 15:04
                        That's it, I have no more questions. At least now I’ll know who to turn to for clarification when the president and the general staff say all sorts of stupid things.
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                      1. 0
                        14 October 2017 15:22
                        Quote: Rus2012
                        they did not authorize me to give additional information

                        Who would doubt that...
                  3. 0
                    15 October 2017 10:43
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    The space echelon of the US SPRYAU spacecraft is designed in such a way that it takes about a minute just to detect the launch of an ICBM, even in Vypolzovo.
                    This is how they are structured, these spacecraft; the details have already been given here. Should I repeat it?

                    Is there anything to repeat? Do me a favor!
                    And be sure to indicate when and where the United States gave you the opportunity to study the design of their spacecraft and explore the capabilities of these spacecraft to detect the launch of our ICBMs.
                    Then we will discuss the “failure” of the US missile defense system to intercept our ICBMs.
                    1. 0
                      October 15, 2017 11:08
                      Quote: Svateev
                      Is there anything to repeat? Do me a favor!

                      ...stop trolling!
                      One post is lost, it won’t calm down...
                      1. 0
                        October 15, 2017 11:21
                        Quote: Rus2012
                        ...stop trolling!

                        troll suggested...
          2. 0
            October 14, 2017 10:40
            Quote: Rus2012
            The missile defense system with the SM-3 interceptor missile in Romania cannot intercept Russian strategic nuclear forces missiles

            You, like American experts, for some reason “forget” about ship-based missile defense in the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea. And we are talking specifically about shipboard missile defense:
            "the results of modeling by Russian specialists of interceptions by the US missile defense system of Russian ballistic missiles, in particular ship-based interceptor missiles from the Baltic and Norwegian seas,

            More details on TASS:
            http://tass.ru/politika/4641632"
            And in your picture, the trajectory of our ICBMs passes just over the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea.
            1. 0
              14 October 2017 12:40
              Quote: Svateev
              And in your picture, the trajectory of our ICBMs passes just over the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea.

              ...besides, it turns out that you don’t know the topic well?!
              Calculate the trajectory of ICBMs based on the heights they reach towards the borders of the Russian Federation. Especially in the Northern Ice Ocean area. Let's leave aside other circumstances for now ("masking launches", "masking strike", preventive clearance of the enemy's advanced missile defense systems...)
              With all this, they don’t know the launch point, the exact time... how do you think they will build a lead? And most importantly - WHAT?

              For anything to happen, they at least need to withdraw from the INF Treaty...
              1. 0
                15 October 2017 10:56
                Quote: Rus2012
                the trajectory of ICBMs in terms of heights that they reach towards the borders of the Russian Federation.

                Will the US missile defense system wait until our ICBMs cross the Russian border?! Did the Americans personally promise you this or what?
                Ship-based missile defense from the Baltic and Norwegian Sea will intercept ICBMs on a collision course - an ideal option. And he will try to intercept the ICBM as early as possible, even before the deployment of the warhead.
                You, following the US experts, prove with all your might that a missile defense system from ROMANIA cannot intercept ICBMs launched at the USA. So no one argues with this. The missile defense system in Romania is not intended to protect the United States, but to protect Europe.
                1. 0
                  October 15, 2017 11:23
                  Quote: Svateev
                  Ship-based missile defense from the Baltic and Norwegian Sea will intercept ICBMs on a collision course - an ideal option. And he will try to intercept the ICBM as early as possible, even before the deployment of the warhead.

                  ...you were asked to prove the CIE with numbers - trajectory altitude and in seconds, time and coordinates of the true launch of the ICBM, detected launch moment (delta), construction of the “calculated trajectory” of the ICBM (how and what is detected, instrument errors and calculation errors), the arrival of the team at the launch of an anti-missile, the lead point, the possibility of parrying a calculated “miss” with an anti-missile (energy) ... Considering that even a simple Topol-type ICBM “with a point” in the active section is by no means a “ballistic target” ...

                  And you keep telling fairy tales!

                  PS: With all this, you are not yet limited by the fact that “under the trajectory space” - by the time the ICBMs and BBs pass - will be “cleared” first and foremost. And they do not require selection from “camouflage launches” and “camouflage strikes”. And we are not talking about “maneuvering ICBMs” and “imaginary routes”...
                  1. 0
                    October 15, 2017 11:32
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    prove SIE with numbers given

                    Do we need real “numbers” for our ICBMs?! Hee hee... This is not for me...
                    And anyone who convinces the Russian political leadership that the US missile defense system is impossible to intercept our ICBMs is either a fraudster or an enemy. Because he does not know and cannot know the real “figures” of the US missile defense system. Here only evaluative conclusions are possible.
                    Do you know what “estimated” is? Or does this also need to be explained?
              2. 0
                October 15, 2017 11:15
                Quote: Rus2012
                (“masking launches”, “masking strike”, preventive clearance of the enemy’s advanced missile defense systems...)

                Well, it turns out you also know that interception is possible from the Baltic and the Norwegian Sea. Why then did they first replace the thesis and push the Romanian missile defense system?
                Now about “masking launches and strikes”. All this has some effectiveness, but exactly what kind of effectiveness no one knows and will not find out until the real thing.
                Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right when he says that the missile defense system changes the nuclear missile balance between us and the United States. The missile defense system gives the Americans hope of an unpunished attack on us.
                We need to WORK as hard as we did during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already underway in military design bureaus and the military-industrial complex. And real launches will be the end of the third world war.
                1. 0
                  15 October 2017 12:37
                  Quote: Svateev
                  Do we need real “numbers” for our ICBMs?!
                  Hee hee... This is not for me... And the one who convinces the Russian political leadership of the impossibility of the US missile defense system to intercept our ICBMs is either a fraudster or an enemy. Because he does not know and cannot know the real “figures” of the US missile defense system.


                  Quote: Svateev
                  Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right, ...
                  We need to WORK as hard as we did during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already underway in military design bureaus and the military-industrial complex.


                  Even a superficial analysis of your posts makes it easy to guess a paid troll...
                  When you are asked to “get into the topic” and give an easy school calculation for grades 6-8 of constructing the movement of bodies, immediately: "This is not for me..."
                  At the same time, you furiously demand - TTX CA USA. Promising only then to continue the discussion. If it’s “not for me,” then why the hell?
                  When you are given directions for an independent search, you try to put the last significant point in the dispute - “Who would doubt it...”

                  When it smells like a ban for actions, slogans go:
                  Therefore, the representative of the Ministry of Defense Emelyanov is absolutely right

                  and further, in bold -
                  We need to WORK as hard as we did during the Great Patriotic War. Because World War III is already underway in military design bureaus and the military-industrial complex .

                  And then, the last slogan with a double bottom - either sincere thoughts, but rather a call to get involved in the arms race, aka 80xx with sad consequences...

                  Not weird? Doesn’t it remind you of the notorious “manual”?
                  1. 0
                    16 October 2017 16:34
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Even a superficial analysis of your posts makes it easy to guess a paid troll...

                    Analysis?! You?!! Where???
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    see right away

                    We are so... we are at once...
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    you furiously demand - performance characteristics of the US spacecraft

                    Because “vi”, without blinking an eye, declares that this is what American spacecraft can do. but they can’t do this. So I (sorry, “yum”) and propose to explain where such categorical confidence comes from?
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    you are given directions to search on your own,

                    Look for it yourself. Otherwise it’s too smart to send others to look for it...
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    rather a call to get involved in the arms race, aka the 80xx, with sad consequences...

                    Well, the liberal face has opened slightly...
                    There is no need to get involved in an "arms race"?? Was it because of the “arms race” that there were sad consequences?!!
                    How did you make such a mistake? Is it possible to apply this point of the manual on this site?!!
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Doesn’t it remind you of the notorious “manual”?

                    But your attack on me is an innovation in your training manuals. But they didn’t finish it, they haven’t finished it yet... they made a mistake...
      2. 0
        13 October 2017 13:42
        Trumpushka is as much mine as Nelson Mandela is the president for the Koreans.
        About the increase in the US nuclear arsenal, say thanks to the EBN and the HEU-LEU treaty
        an intergovernmental agreement between the Russian Federation and the United States of America, concluded in Washington on February 18, 1993, providing for the irreversible processing of at least 500 tons of Russian weapons-grade (highly enriched) uranium (equivalent to approximately 20 thousand nuclear warheads.
        undetectable Yars

        Mobile-based 84 pieces, total 336 nuclear warheads
        Frontiers with Maces

        The RS-26 "Rubezh" or "Avangard" were put into service only in 2017 before complete re-equipment from monoblock RS-2PM2 "Topoli M" takes time.
        "Bulava" is not very reliable compared to "Sineva", there are many unsuccessful launches.
        There will be no preventive strike by Russian strategic nuclear forces on the United States.
        And the Chinese will not be economically profitable for the Chinese to fight with the United States for Russian interests.
        1. 0
          13 October 2017 14:03
          Quote: raid14
          But the Chinese will not fight the United States for Russian interests

          ...ha ha ha! ;)))
          And for your vital interests? And with the tacit (and not so much) support of Russia?
          Quote: raid14
          There will be no preventive strike by Russian strategic nuclear forces on the United States.

          ...who promised you this? ;)
          We-no...
          Quote: raid14
          "Bulava" is not very reliable compared to "Sineva", there are many unsuccessful launches.

          ...but the simple thought that Bulava survived “children’s illnesses” does not occur? There is no doubt that everything in the world changes and develops, and is not preserved forever?

          Quote: =raid14
          The RS-26 "Rubezh" or "Avangard" were put into service only in 2017 before complete re-equipment from monoblock RS-2PM2 "Topoli M" takes time.

          ...has this already been reported to you and the exchange documents provided? ;))))))))))
          Let it be known to you that the Frontier will only advance if your thick-headed copper helmets do not understand that competing with the Russians is pointless and cross what you like to call the “red line.”
          This feature is designated and stated:
          - deployment of missile defense beyond a certain value and in certain territories (this is why the statement of the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexander Emelyanov)
          - exit 3.14ndosni with the INF Treaty
          - your attempts to install convection ICBMs
          1. 0
            13 October 2017 14:15
            There are zero objective arguments, just rhetoric, are you by any chance from Internet Research LLC?
            1. 0
              13 October 2017 15:06
              Quote: raid14
              Zero objective arguments

              These are excerpts from your “manual” and “zero” knowledge... ;))))))
          2. +2
            13 October 2017 14:21
            ...and yes, about the Yarsov-Topolei-M -
            Mobile-based 84 pieces, total 336 nuclear warheads

            you don't know again,
            We have 174 of them on the database
            Of these, PGRK - 102!

            As for the “HEU-LEU agreement” - again in flight - you have no enrichment capacity, literally - at all!
            Unlike you, the whole cycle works for us. And the old reserves, they say, will still last for 200 years... ;)))))))))))

            In short, stock up on breadcrumbs, wash your white socks, and get ready for the inevitable “drain” ;)))
  6. 0
    October 13, 2017 09:00
    What can we do: we need to somehow manage the gigantic military budget, otherwise the printing press will be idle. Before that there was SDI. The main thing is that Russia traditionally does not get involved in an arms race with a logical outcome.
  7. +1
    October 13, 2017 09:00
    As I understand it (instant global strike complex), replacing this with a more advanced one, including everything at once! The question is where to hang it.
  8. 0
    13 October 2017 09:01
    He emphasized that “the creation of means of an instant global strike is another factor that confirms Washington’s desire to destroy the existing balance of power and ensure global strategic dominance.”
    one way road to the end of the world...
  9. 0
    13 October 2017 09:09
    I wonder what our defense industry is preparing in response? This turn of events definitely doesn’t suit us...I think that’s why ours are focusing on promising hypersonic developments...........
    1. +1
      13 October 2017 09:22
      Our defense industry is being prepared for budget cuts. There will be new ICBMs and air defense systems - missile defense and that's all.
      1. +1
        October 13, 2017 12:00
        Quote: Vadim237
        and that is all

        ...said a member of the "military-industrial commission"!? ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        1. 0
          October 14, 2017 00:41
          The rest is at our own expense - the country’s budget has long been exhausted.
  10. +1
    October 13, 2017 09:11
    How restless. SDI again?
    1. +3
      13 October 2017 09:24
      Unlike SDI, the proposed global strike systems have already been implemented in hardware and tested - the Aegis missile defense system and the X 37 unmanned spacecraft.
      1. +1
        16 October 2017 09:50
        The very concept of a global strike against Russia has no prospects. The mathematically calculated model does not give any chance for the United States. We have too much to answer. Unexpectedly, it will not work out clearly. There is too much to prepare in advance.
  11. +10
    13 October 2017 09:16
    When I see this picture...

    My hands are itching to shoot something, right in the middle... so that it could become like this...
    ...
    1. +3
      October 13, 2017 09:21
      Quote: Masya Masya
      My hands are itching,

      they have it too...so the “scabies” is mutual.
  12. 0
    October 13, 2017 09:23
    So what will the irons do? Are we deploying S-500s and Ichkanders in Cuba?
  13. +1
    13 October 2017 09:24
    Russia and China need to accelerate the economic and financial collapse of the states. A “disease” is easier to prevent than to treat.
    1. 0
      13 October 2017 12:04
      Quote: Mercenary
      accelerate the economic and financial collapse of the states

      ...nevertheless, at the beginning of “uncontrollable house music” in the “Zaluzhye” region, the main problem remains the control of their SNS. “Assignment (taking control) will be required...” (c)
  14. 0
    October 13, 2017 09:25
    A disarming strike...on Russia and China....will finally decide the fate of the AI ​​and the underlings!!!! There are no words, just swearing....
  15. +2
    13 October 2017 09:29
    Only Russia, not even close to the USSR. Thanks to the efforts of GDP and Co. + everyone who came before them since 1982, the country is in such a state of emergency that, by and large, there is nothing or nothing to answer. All that remains is to puff out your cheeks, express statements and concerns about the fate of the world. But with this we are all right...
  16. +4
    October 13, 2017 09:38
    Quote: SERGE ant
    But this is an alarm bell. This is not SDI for you... Let our scientists now think about what to oppose to this matter.

    Is it worth getting so excited???
    Another bullshit like SOI!!!
    Has something new super-killer appeared lately? something based on new principles, something that others don’t have and don’t have in sight???
    NOTHING!!!
    Weapons invented “yesterday or even the day before yesterday” are systematically being improved/modernized... scientists, of course, are dreaming/inventing something new, BUT no means of secrecy can hide the testing of something super-duper miracle weapon, especially mass destruction!!!
    So, this all looks very much like a scam for the purpose of... you know why.
    The Yusovites have (inheritance from the Britons) the most lethal weapon, which they successfully use - a donkey with a bag of gold!!! Old as time, but the action is killer!!!
    So we'll expect a hit on the financial front...more likely.
    PS I assume that our scientists, the military-industrial complex, are also developing something like this, since it’s like this... wow, and in half!!!
    1. 0
      October 13, 2017 12:07
      Quote: rocket757
      donkey with a bag of gold!!!

      ...maybe fortunately, but, they say, “only an empty bag remains” with an elderly donkey :))))))))))))))))
      1. +3
        13 October 2017 13:52
        Is it so???
        There is no talk about newly printed candy wrappers, although they can win back theirs! They might chip in with their capitalist/democratic international for such an occasion!
        We have a lot of “eternal friends” in this world! And besides, it is not necessary to carry bags of gold to the city gates!!! It’s enough to stuff small handfuls into the right pockets, and give out even more promises!!! That uproar, staged one might say at the doorstep of our CLOSE neighbors, made me think about a lot... to dive into history and make sure that everything repeats itself in this world.
        Nobody came up with anything new, it’s just that thanks to modern technologies, it has become easier to implement all sorts of infectious ideas... one thing is constant, you need a LOT of money.
  17. +2
    13 October 2017 09:40
    The Americans are bluffing once again. The goal is to drag Russia into a military race, hoping to kill the Russian Federation economically. Nothing new, the same strategy that was against the USSR.
  18. 0
    13 October 2017 09:41
    I wonder what known physical principles this “instant global impact” is based on? Apart from teleportation, nothing comes to mind in the morning.
  19. +1
    13 October 2017 09:49
    Washington's desire to destroy the existing balance of power and ensure global strategic dominance

    By and large, we need to strive for this. National security interests come first.
  20. 0
    13 October 2017 09:56
    Whatever the immediate global blow, there will
    certainly be retribution for the United States! Are they really that stupid there?! Super-elected ones, motherfucker!
  21. +2
    13 October 2017 09:59
    Some go to the forest, some for firewood. One deputy minister beats himself in the chest with his fist and proclaims that domestic “Hypersonic maneuvering units” will break through any missile defense system, the second is now talking about these systems as a threat.

    Quote: SERGE ant
    But this is an alarm bell. This is not SDI for you... Let our scientists now think about what to oppose to this matter.

    While this call is still only being thought about, but not being made. And it is as unrealistic in the next 20-30 years as the SDI program was unrealistic in the 80s

    Quote: Anarchist
    No matter how regrettable it may be, if there is a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the USA! Because they will do it at the first opportunity...

    Americans should not be considered complete i.d.i.ots. An imbalance in strategic systems always exists and this is not a reason to immediately launch a nuclear strike on the other side. In order to make such a decision, there must no longer be an imbalance, but a total superiority of some over others.
    And the imbalance existed throughout the years of development of strategic nuclear weapons. First on bombers, then on missiles, then on warheads. Now it also exists. But in some ways the imbalance is in our favor, in some ways in favor of the Americans.

    Quote: japs
    I agree with you, the first thought immediately is that showman Trump is trying to repeat the success of his idol Rony Reagan. And he has more chances.

    He has no chance. Chatter and political statements are one thing, reality is another matter entirely. For example, he plans to increase the number of interceptor missiles to 1,000 units by 2022. How is he going to do this if the purchase of Standard-type interceptors (capable of intercepting only MRBMs) is limited to an average of 35-40 per year (they currently have about 400 such interceptors). The number of THAAD systems is 1-2 batteries per year (that is, 4 launchers and 3 dozen interceptors), the number of GBI-type strategic interceptors is 4-6 units per year. This is the same as saying that by that time we will graduate half a hundred TU-160 strategists. The deadlines are not just unrealistic, they are unachievable.
    As for strike weapon systems. What can I ask them on the way out? Their FALCON complex with hypersonic impact vehicles? So he flew EMNIP a couple of times a few years ago. Hypersonic air-to-surface missiles? The last time we tested EMNIP was in 2013 - now there is silence. Non-nuclear strike forces based on ICBMs? So then they need to reduce the number of carriers of their nuclear component. Even without prolonging the START-3 treaty, they will not be able to gain advantages in this direction for trivial reasons. Installing such systems in open areas is stupid. The number of undestroyed silos is decreasing. And what to put? "Minutemen"? "Tridents", But if the last ones still have a more or less normal CEP, then the same cannot be said about the "Minutemen", of the 400 units of which only 50 are equipped with the Mk-21 system from MX.

    Quote: Logall
    This ally will deal with bases in Japan and the Republic of Korea. More on Guam...

    It can and will deal with some of the bases, but only after that it will cease to exist.

    Quote: BerBer
    This is pure bluff. Firstly: no matter what kind of air defense there is, there are always loopholes. For example, you can equip Calibers with a nuclear warhead. Secondly, their anti-missile defenses are not up to the task of countering our strategic nuclear weapons. Maximum SCUDs. A banal cut of money. Military factories are working - people are receiving kickbacks.

    I agree that this is pure bluff. But I don’t agree that their missile defense is exclusively against SCADs. Should not be underestimated. GBI interceptors have a range of up to 5000 km and an altitude reach of 2000. Their interceptor speed is sufficient to intercept ICBMs. The question is on a different plane. They don't have enough of them. Enough to intercept North Korean missiles, but not even enough to intercept Chinese missiles. Therefore, in their developments there is such an idea as a preventive strike on the Chinese strategic missile forces in order to “thin out” their numbers. Then the missile defense system of the North American continent will be able to stop the remaining ones.
    stop Russian strategic nuclear forces Americans NOT CAPABLE and they do not claim that they are capable, declaring that the missile defense system is not against us. In essence this is true

    Quote: johnik
    Gentlemen are taken at their word...

    You don't have to take my word for it. But remember that as someone said: I DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS, IT'S ENOUGH FOR ME TO KNOW YOUR CAPABILITIES. Therefore, you can “suck” the Americans’ statements thousands of times that this is not against us, but you just need to know the capabilities of these missile defense systems. And they NOT AGAINST US. For this purpose, what is called in these systems GUTS TONKA

    Quote: Observer2014
    Let them sit and be afraid to even hint about the development, much less adoption, of instant global strike weapons.

    They hint exclusively for people. Specialists from both sides are well aware of each other’s capabilities
    1. 0
      13 October 2017 10:51
      The specialists, yes, they see it. But general Western schizophrenia may want to send three-letter specialists and then...???
    2. +1
      13 October 2017 12:17
      Quote: Old26
      Some go to the forest, some for firewood. One deputy minister beats himself in the chest with his fist and proclaims that domestic “Hypersonic maneuvering units” will break through any missile defense system, the second is now talking about these systems as a threat.

      ...these are just statements by representatives of TWO different structures within the same defense system.
      With different purposes: Offensive (strategic nuclear forces) and defensive (early warning systems, missile defense).
      Just broadcast in two versions... :)))
      Each version is intended for its own audience.
  22. +1
    13 October 2017 09:59
    Quote: johnik
    Gentlemen are taken at their word...

    Where do you see the gentleman? Personally, I don’t see a gentleman - rather an anti-gentleman
  23. +2
    October 13, 2017 10:30
    Quote: Anarchist
    if there is a hint of imbalance, it will be necessary to strike at the United States

    Just a little bit - we always have time to apologize wink
  24. 0
    October 13, 2017 10:34
    This is a good topic for Russian electronic warfare systems.
    1. 0
      13 October 2017 12:50
      Quote: bratchanin3
      This is a good topic for Russian electronic warfare systems.

      Global system of "radio-electronic suppression" based on the principles of N. Tesla
      At one time, during the time of the Brezhnev-Gorbaty Union, they were not moved to do this. We trusted 3.14ndos. Now it's time... ;)))
      1. 0
        15 October 2017 09:07
        Unfortunately I don't know anything about this. In this case, where will GLONAS, GPS, etc. be? No, we need selective systems of suppression.
        1. 0
          October 15, 2017 11:43
          Quote: bratchanin3
          In this case, where will GLONAS, GPS, etc. be? No, we need selective systems of suppression.

          ...in the “necessary areas” there will be an extensive “Northern Lights”, where problems with navigation are always acute. Plus to everything - with the “effects of the Tunguska meteorite” in a complete set...

          By the way, our aircraft have always been trained to work in the “Norths” and navigate in the “old-fashioned ways”: celestial navigation using radio tubes... and so on and so forth... ;)))
          So...
  25. +1
    October 13, 2017 10:48
    Well, no way to calm down... recourse
  26. 0
    October 13, 2017 11:00
    and they’ve been scaring people with this crap since Soviet times. aren't you tired?
  27. 0
    October 13, 2017 11:04
    What will happen if the DPRK, during testing, its missile loses its bearings and bursts into our space. Can we expect that it will provoke a dead hand and all our missiles will fly towards the USA?
    1. 0
      13 October 2017 12:52
      Quote: coffee
      its rocket will lose its bearings and burst into our space.

      ///the APR (emergency rocket detonation) will simply work...
  28. +4
    October 13, 2017 11:36
    Quote: vovanpain
    Quote: Logall
    India and Turkey will wait on the sidelines to join the winner!

    There, Sanya will have nothing to live with, only ashes and little animals like this. hi drinks

    Wow!!! belay ...do you think Klimkin will survive?
    1. +3
      October 13, 2017 11:43
      and, in general, what kind of means are these?...not nuclear...
  29. 0
    13 October 2017 13:01
    Quote: SERGE ant
    But this is an alarm bell. This is not SDI for you... Let our scientists now think about what to oppose to this matter.

    Already found the Yellowstone volcano, all the warheads are there. laughing
  30. 0
    14 October 2017 01:54
    Quote: voyaka uh
    A blank arrives from the distant stratosphere - and hello to the ballistic missile launcher

    Open sources claim that to break through the mine's protective device ("lid" in simple terms) you need two ammunition with a 2-meter KVO caliber. a rocket can't do that

    Quote: Rus2012
    The APR (emergency rocket detonation) will simply work.

    And after that they will knock on Eunwoo’s head so that it is discouraging
  31. 0
    14 October 2017 10:56
    It is necessary to send the nuclear bomb deep by mail to Washington New York and leave it there in case of war. and then quickly activate if anything happens
  32. +1
    14 October 2017 12:04
    Quote: _Jack_
    Once again for those who do not understand, I am not expressing my point of view here. If an official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense says something from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, then he does not represent his point of view or a narrow group of people, this is the official position of the Ministry of Defense

    Comrade. Even an official representative of the Ministry of Defense not only can and loves to carry a blizzard. Before this, there were two of these in the Ministry of Defense - Deputy Defense Ministry Yuri Borisov and the aforementioned Poznikhir - Deputy Head of the State Institution. Now a third has been added - Emelyanov. They sometimes say things that contradict not only logic, but also common sense. Therefore, you should not always take their word for it.

    If the Deputy Minister of Defense tells us that we can deliver gifts weighing 10 tons to the Americans through the South Pole, despite the fact that, as he writes, the rocket will be “hundred-ton,” tell me, should I believe him? Him or your own knowledge and experience? And in general, almost any official broadcasting in the media can be trusted with caution. For example, I hear from the local media that the wages of cultural workers in our region exceed 18 thousand rubles (range from 18 to 25). And this is from the words of the regional Minister of Culture. But I ask the guys. those who work there - it turns out there are no such salaries. They are at the level of 11-12 thousand. .So there is simply no faith in the official
    And it makes no difference whether it is an official from the Ministry of Culture, the Ministry of Health or the Ministry of Defense. More or less, you can only trust the top officials at the federal level...
  33. 0
    14 October 2017 21:16
    Quote: Svateev

    Who would doubt that...

    Incontinence? The desire to always be extreme?
    Or is the pundit “requiring manuals”? :)))))
    Sorry...
    1. 0
      October 15, 2017 11:41
      Quote: Rus2012
      Incontinence? The desire to always be extreme?

      What about “you”? Don't you find it?!
  34. 0
    October 15, 2017 11:56
    Quote: Svateev

    troll suggested...

    ... "the manual" is worth wiping sometimes... it looks like it's stuck
    1. 0
      16 October 2017 16:38
      Quote: Rus2012
      training manual

      Stuck...

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