Belarus, following Russia's example, destroys the CSTO

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Belarus, following Russia's example, destroys the CSTO


October 9 the meeting of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko and the Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan Zakir Hasanov was held. The parties discussed the possibilities of further development of military-technical cooperation (MTC) between the countries. The Belarusian leader noted separately that he was not going to “justify himself to anyone” for the supply of arms to Baku (obviously, we are talking about an ally in the CSTO block - Armenia), since this is not prohibited by any international treaties and sanctions. What is the level of military-technical cooperation between countries, what are its prospects and what does it lead to in the framework of the region and the CSTO military bloc?



Belarus supplies Azerbaijan weapon in exchange for loans?

The real military-technical cooperation (MTC) between Azerbaijan and Belarus began in 2005, when Baku received the first Tanks T-72. Since then, Minsk has sent at least 153 T-72 tanks, 9 2 mm Pion self-propelled artillery guns of 7 mm caliber, 203 30 mm towed D-20 howitzers, 152 Su-11 attack aircraft, two Buk anti-aircraft missile systems to the Transcaucasian country. -MB ”, as well as anti-tank missile systems“ Skif ”of Ukrainian-Belarusian production (OJSC“ Peleng ”supplies a guidance system). Most of the equipment was Soviet-made and delivered from storage, with the exception of the Scythians and the Bukov, which were modernized by the joint efforts of Minsk and Kiev. The deal with Buk-MB turned out to be not so smooth - a lot of marriage was revealed in Ukrainian components, which was eliminated after the air defense system was adopted by the Azerbaijani army. The financial details of these transactions are unknown.

In addition to military-technical cooperation, Ilham Aliyev periodically “helps out” Alexander Lukashenko with loans, for example, this happened in 2010, when $ 200-million Azerbaijani loan went to pay off Minsk’s debts to Gazprom.

As for the military-technical cooperation of Armenia and Belarus, it was sporadic and very small - in 2007, Yerevan received 10 122-mm towed guns D-30.



Azerbaijan wants to buy pseudo-Belarusian MLRS Polonaise?

In 2016, Armenia demonstrated a number of modern Russian armaments as part of its armed forces, including the Iskander-E operational tactical missile systems.

Immediately after that, and still in Azerbaijan, they are trying to find an answer to this supply - there were rumors in the media about Pakistani ballistic missiles and about Israeli. But the closest to reality is the purchase of heavy multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) "Polonaise". Despite the fact that this system is positioned by Minsk as an in-house development, de facto it is the Chinese MLRS A-200 installed on the MZKT-7930 chassis produced by the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant.

According to the official tactical and technical characteristics, the system is capable of firing at a distance of up to 200 km with a circular probable deviation of 50 meters. It is difficult to say how accurate this accuracy is in reality. Compared with the "Iskander" range and accuracy, of course, lower, but the cost of missiles is also less. But one should not forget the fact that the Armenian Iskander-E is a deterrent factor - even if the enemy has what to answer, this does not exclude the destruction of the hydroelectric station (not the dam) in Mingechaur and the oil terminal in Baku.



Belarus destroys the CSTO?

As is known, Armenia and Belarus, unlike Azerbaijan, are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) - the military bloc, of which Russia is the real leader. In contrast to the North Atlantic Alliance, there are no common areas of work in the CSTO, and only Russia has a real relationship with all members of the bloc, while the other participants have very few common interests, and the level of cooperation between For example, Armenia and Tajikistan are very insignificant. For the same Belarus and Kazakhstan, relations with Azerbaijan are much higher priority than with Armenia, despite the fact that the countries are formally allies. By supplying arms to the direct enemy of Armenia, Minsk further undermines the CSTO and makes the bloc meaningless. True, we should not forget that in recent years Russia has also supplied a huge amount of offensive weapons to Azerbaijan, which leads to the same consequences as the actions of Belarus (which, focusing on the actions of Moscow, supply weapons to Baku without any fear). In fact, to date, the CSTO is held only at the expense of preferential terms for military-technical cooperation with Russia - as a military bloc, this organization practically does not exist.
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  1. +1
    13 October 2017 05: 59
    So why the hell does the Old Man need? “Russia doesn’t give weapons!”, But itself has everything and there is enough for trade. Crybaby.
    1. +2
      13 October 2017 06: 45
      Since he sells old stuff and wants modern weapons for free
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    3. +5
      13 October 2017 11: 38
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      So why the hell does the Old Man need?


      Hey. But father really wants to show off on the European podium, to go down in history not as the "last dictator", but as a world-wide figure. This is very beneficial for the European Russophobia, who skillfully play Lukashenko against Russia and against Putin in particular. Fanfaraonism of the LAS (a) will play a cruel joke with him, but so far he does not think about it and continues to fluff his tail.
  2. +9
    13 October 2017 06: 42
    not going to "justify to anyone"

    But at the same time it rushes about like a bug after degassing and is scattered by statements that contradict each other. To whom it is not important to sell weapons, the main thing is profit, but at the same time do not forget to rebuke Russia that it does not want give Belarus new types of weapons.
    1. +6
      13 October 2017 07: 17
      What did Russia give to Belarus? Are the Iskanders not presented to Armenia? Do you want to say?
      You've all written off billions to Africa
      1. +10
        13 October 2017 09: 19
        Lex, and on which side do you care about what and to whom we wrote off? The United States also allocates billions to you for free for rearmament, but this is natural for you.
        1. +2
          13 October 2017 11: 34
          But as you know, dear, I have Belarusian citizenship and there are relatives in Belarus and I won’t report to you what interests me
          1. +9
            13 October 2017 11: 37
            And we. since when did you switch to? Or in Israel, politeness is not trained?
            I won’t report to you what bothers me
            So then do not open your mouth to Russian money.
            1. +2
              13 October 2017 11: 52
              What kind of money?
              What are you talking about ?
          2. +5
            13 October 2017 11: 44
            Quote: Lex.
            But as you know, dear, I have Belarusian citizenship


            Do you want to say that you stand by chance. Look, the pose is dangerous - they can pull for the Faberge. bully
            1. +2
              13 October 2017 11: 54
              For what is interesting, we and your Russians have enough with Russian citizenship
              1. +7
                13 October 2017 12: 11
                Quote: Lex.
                For what is interesting, we and your Russians have enough with Russian citizenship


                Yes it is. And in most of them they didn’t arrange the “stole-in-prison” option in Russia, and they preferred “with a big step to the God-tagged”, and the Russian passport - to the “last” case in the chest of drawers. I will not list the names, they are by ear.
                1. +2
                  13 October 2017 12: 24
                  In Israel, mostly rogue old people in rented apartments, well, Nevzlin, a crook, well, mostly hard workers
        2. 0
          13 October 2017 11: 35
          http://www.belvpo.com/ru/87352.html
          read that your MO writes
  3. +9
    13 October 2017 06: 51
    The cry of the Armenian journalist is quite understandable: Azerbaijan is being armed with all and sundry, so the CSTO is collapsing.
    On the other hand, Dashnaktsutyun does not allow looking at the armament of Armenia, the fact that in Russia there are Russian troops, which are just there to protect Nersisyan.
    I also don’t have a very good attitude towards Azerbaijani ambitions, but you have to be more objective: if you would like to merge, the first thing the Russian Federation would have removed its bases in order not to risk its own soldiers.
    1. +6
      13 October 2017 07: 15
      Nersisyan he works for Regnum which constantly writes dirty tricks on Belarus
      1. +4
        13 October 2017 07: 49
        Yes, I, too, constantly chop the loaf of bread at Rygoritch laughing but one must be more objective somehow.
        No one is going to abandon Armenia, unless they themselves throw a feint, it is a natural ally in the Caucasus. But Azerbaijan is also an important player in this region, so we have to find a balance between supporting and containing these hot Caucasian guys, which, of course, does not periodically suit one side or another.
        1. +2
          13 October 2017 08: 08
          Armenians will soon have new neighbors in the south - Kurdistan.
          how they relate to the Kurds 100 years is known
          friend of all friends of the US-world will contribute to the creation of a "new democratic state"
          1. +2
            15 October 2017 09: 58
            For Kurds and Kurdistan, the problem is even wider than on the surface ... There, their leaders have Jewish roots. Accordingly, the problem grows by orders of magnitude.
            By the way, the Aliyevs from such "Kurds" (and the caliper is not needed)
  4. +7
    13 October 2017 07: 34
    True, do not forget that Russia has supplied a huge amount of offensive weapons to Azerbaijan in recent years. It was necessary to start from this, and not to write everything else, because the meaning of the article is lost after this phrase.
    1. +6
      13 October 2017 08: 03
      Minsk can sell weapons to anyone it wants, and here this boil is unclear.
      1. +10
        13 October 2017 08: 31
        Yes, you can of course. Everything is possible. Only after that you don’t need to cry when all the allies know what kind of “partner” you are. It’s easier to take the S-400 with the documentation right away to the US than to present the “brothers” solemnly love
      2. +7
        13 October 2017 09: 03
        Quote: Franciscan
        Minsk can sell weapons to anyone it wants

        Well, of course, for example, the Ukrainian Bandera, who are killing civilians in the Donbass. I have never heard from Lukashenko condemnations and protests about today's heroes of Ukraine Bandera and Shukhevych, whose punitive battalions burned dozens of Belarusian villages, killed thousands of Belarusians. On the contrary, Lukashenko promised Pete any help. Money overshadowed the mind. Take a trip to Khatyn, listen to the ringing of bells
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        2. +6
          13 October 2017 17: 19
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          Well, of course, for example, Ukrainian Bandera,

          Something Russia does not stop pouring money into Ukraine and trade, support Bandera? Then what are the problems with RB
          1. +3
            13 October 2017 19: 06
            Quote: Black5Raven
            Something Russia does not stop pouring money into Ukraine and trading, support Bandera

            You don’t take Russia with the corrupt clan of Russian oligarchs, and they are gradually squeezing them out of Ukraine, for example, the “daughters” of Russian banks have closed, the Donetsk coal is being sold under the guise of a Russian one, so people in the Donbas have to live on something, Russia transfers through the south -Ossetian bank huge amounts to support the Donbass, sent 69 humanitarian convoys. Oh yes, Lukashenko also sent one, but at the disposal of Kiev, cynicism, and more. If the henpecked Belarusian oligarchs helped Bandera, then I would not say a word, although without Rygorich’s knowledge, they are afraid to sneeze. But the Belarusian president openly promised Poroshenko any help, repair Ukrainian combat helicopters in Orsha, combat aircraft in Baranovichi, supply the SKIF anti-aircraft missile system, sighting optics, binoculars, batteries, and MZKT chassis. And after the money runs out he runs to Russia like a wacky dog, looks into his eyes and asks for another loan to pay off the previous one.
  5. +2
    13 October 2017 08: 33
    Something too chic dad the technique is scattered. And what will replenish? Indeed, most of the listed line is not produced in Belarus.
    1. +8
      13 October 2017 08: 53
      Legends can be compiled about the vision of the Belarusian leadership. Grandchildren will figure it out.
      Pay attention even to the moment of counter-sanctions against the EU from the Russian Federation. Belarus could have muddled up so many production capacities (which was not forbidden) that it would be a huge leap for the economy and welfare of the people. Instead, “shrimp” sailed to Russia with incomprehensible accompanying documents. fast .. (s)
      The same with the military commissar. What has not decayed is still considered an export.
      1. avt
        +1
        13 October 2017 09: 45
        Quote: SNEAKY
        The vision of the Belarusian leadership can be legends.

        Ballads and blow trumpets. bully But in general, of course, this is such an Armenian version in the article
        Due to the fact that the denunciation is sewn in it, the Denunciation of the hetman of the villain Tsar Peter from Kochubey.
        Well, GDP is from Kochubyan. Butsk sells, well .....
        Quote: SNEAKY
        . Only after that you don’t need to cry when all the allies know what kind of “partner” you are. It’s easier to take the S-400 to the United States with the documentation right away than to solemnly present the “brothers”

        Actually, as its predecessor, the S-300. Separately amused passage in the Armenian denunciation about the notorious ,, Polonaise " bully Ara! Wow mz! Nothing about a Chinese rocket? Not. Of course, Butsk’s car can be sold, but without a racket, or rather with a tennis racket, but a regular one only with the consent of the Chinese.
      2. +1
        13 October 2017 09: 54
        You can stir anything
        At whose expense and where to sell
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  7. +3
    13 October 2017 09: 26
    Quote: SNEAKY
    Yes, you can of course. Everything is possible. Only after that you don’t need to cry when all the allies know what kind of “partner” you are. It’s easier to take the S-400 with the documentation right away to the US than to present the “brothers” solemnly love

    Turks with 400 production documentation who is going to transfer?
    1. +6
      13 October 2017 09: 53
      nobody is going to. these are their dreams
    2. +4
      13 October 2017 09: 59
      Well, compared! Yes, and the double-facedness of Erdogan is visible from afar. "Friends" are everywhere laughing
  8. 0
    13 October 2017 09: 29
    Quote: SNEAKY
    Legends can be compiled about the vision of the Belarusian leadership. Grandchildren will figure it out.
    Pay attention even to the moment of counter-sanctions against the EU from the Russian Federation. Belarus could have muddled up so many production capacities (which was not forbidden) that it would be a huge leap for the economy and welfare of the people. Instead, “shrimp” sailed to Russia with incomprehensible accompanying documents. fast .. (s)
    The same with the military commissar. What has not decayed is still considered an export.

    It takes a lot of money to commission new capacities. A good modern plant costs hundreds of millions of dollars. In addition, who in Russia will buy this when the entire orientation of the Russian elite to the west, and everyone is driven from the west in principle.
    1. +1
      13 October 2017 09: 52
      So, with a competent approach, people in order not to lose the huge market would get the necessary amounts. Another thing is who to contact. The Baltics have already built a brewery lol
      1. +2
        13 October 2017 10: 16
        Now, as a rule, import substitution is going on among the raseyans; In theory, we don’t even need to build anything, just upload what we have.
    2. 0
      14 October 2017 18: 16
      .Everything from the starvation of the church
  9. +1
    13 October 2017 15: 06
    "Belarus supplies weapons to Azerbaijan in exchange for loans?"
    "Author: Leonid Nersisyan"
    After reading these two sentences, the article can not be read. So I did and I advise everyone.
    And I’ll advise the author not to stick his nose in someone else’s garden.
    At the same time I send my sincere greetings to Slavik Martirosyan!
  10. +3
    13 October 2017 17: 21
    Since there are no sanctions, Belarus can safely trade weapons with Azerbaijan. And everything else is lyrics.
  11. +5
    13 October 2017 17: 29
    -Belorussia ...- not the state in relation to which Russia should be stingy ... -Of course ...- Lukashenko has his own cockroaches in his head and sometimes he just “wedges” ... -But the main thing ...- this to maintain warm fraternal relations between Russia and Belarus ...
    -From Ukraine now the hostility is such that it will not subside after 100 years ... -Here Russia has only one fraternal Belarus ... -If that "happens" .., then Russia will have to share all the hardships with Belarus ... -All the rest of the "ODBC-Desh"
    "brotherly" and "partner" go-va ... -simply no hope ... -they will simply "scatter" and "get over" ...- who is where ...
    1. 0
      14 October 2017 18: 18
      How's everything running ... feed broffff ... hmm ... and wait 41 years ... coming
  12. 0
    14 October 2017 05: 22
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    So why the hell does the Old Man need? “Russia doesn’t give weapons!”, But itself has everything and there is enough for trade. Crybaby.


    It’s just that it’s not enough for him, one partner, he wants a lot of partners and different poses, which is completely routine for politics.
  13. 0
    16 October 2017 15: 18
    Writing nonsense about the Collective Security Treaty Organization against the background of the West’s recent exercises in Belarus, where Russian and Belarusian troops have successfully worked out combat cooperation, can be done only by a not very smart person. Moreover, Armenian sovereignty is potentially threatened not by the operetta army of Azerbaijan, but by the real powerful Turkish army, from which the CSTO itself protects Armenia and against which the Armenian army alone has no chance
  14. 0
    16 October 2017 15: 26
    For Lukash you need an eye and an eye!
    Such a "leader" as he, at any moment can overrun to our enemies, or hit us in the back!
    1. +1
      16 October 2017 15: 49
      He is a faithful and consistent ally of Russia. 22 years. During this time he made no attempts to cross over to the EU and NATO and was long before Putin under their sanctions, in those days when a drunk EBN kissed the West in a hickey. But there are regular cries of two chairs and potential betrayal. The goal of the cries is to split our alliance with the Belarusians, to sow distrust and confusion. And it’s strange that he firmly defends the interests of Belarus and blame him
  15. +1
    16 October 2017 18: 34
    Quote: Pissarro
    And the fact that he firmly defends the interests of Belarus to blame him is strange, he’s the president

    And he defends well! Truth? How much did he swim to Russia from the Belarusian Sea to Russia? How many "truly Belarusian" fruits and vegetables have gone to us?
    He only cares about his selfish interests and nothing more. And he needs Russia only as long as you can get something cheap from it. As soon as the freebie is over, it will immediately transfer to our "strategic partners". We know this very well, and he knows that we know this ...
    And do not confuse the cunning Lukash and our brotherly Belarusian people. Flies separately, cutlets separately!
    1. 0
      16 October 2017 20: 42
      What do you want from Belarus? Loyalty and support? Sorry, everything has a cost. This is a business approach. No.
    2. 0
      17 October 2017 09: 18
      - For 22 years he has not flipped over, but flipped over. Why? Because!
    3. 0
      19 October 2017 17: 10
      It is precisely for such a policy that the fraternal Belarusian people vote for it!
  16. 0
    17 October 2017 12: 37
    Quote: Lex.
    But as you know, dear, I have Belarusian citizenship and there are relatives in Belarus and I won’t report to you what interests me

    And the Jewish flag was hung on the icon, a patriot ......................................... .
    .....
  17. 0
    19 October 2017 17: 08
    He has earned so much on the supply of sanctions to Russia, that let him rearm at his own expense! He also did not give permission to the base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Belarus! Ally!

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