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"Shirk, retreat, tack." Will the Russian Foreign Ministry answer Washington?

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The cold war continues. The diplomatic exchange of "courtesies" is entering a new stage. In Moscow, they can answer the White House: a new expulsion of diplomats from Russia is not excluded. However, some experts believe that the Russian Foreign Ministry is characterized by the line "all the time to evade, retreat, maneuver."




In early September, 2017, the US authorities closed the Russian Consulate General in San Francisco and the trade mission in Washington and New York. The buildings were searched. Moscow considered such actions unfriendly step.

As a possible response to the closure of Russian diplomatic property in the US, Moscow may consider response options. It is possible, for example, that the Kremlin will demand that the White House establish “parity” in the number of diplomatic staff. Translated into Russian, this means an additional expulsion from the Russian Federation of a large number of American diplomats.

Georgy Borisenko, Director of the North American Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, spoke on the topic of establishing parity in the number of diplomatic representatives. The diplomat said that Moscow is already considering the possibility of reducing the number of employees of the US diplomatic mission in Russia to three hundred.

According to him, the number of people in 455, to whom Russia offered Washington to bring American staff to equalize it with the Russian, also included the staff of the Russian Permanent Mission to the United Nations in New York. However, these people are not engaged in bilateral Russian-American relations. “It was purely our goodwill. We actually gave the Americans a head start, went to meet them, ”the diplomat said.

Recall that in July 2017 Moscow ordered the reduction of the US diplomatic mission in the Russian Federation by 755 people, i.e. leaving only 455 employees.

“As for the answer, we said, including publicly, that in diplomacy there is an inviolable principle of reciprocity, and the Americans are well aware of this. If they behaved in this way, it means that they agree that we can act mirror with their overseas agencies in Russia, ”G. Borisenko quotes. RIA News".

Answering the agency's question about whether the possibility of closing one of the American consulates is being considered, Borisenko assured that Moscow “does not exclude any options, including the establishment of real parity in the number of diplomatic missions”.

The likely new turn of the conflict in the framework of the Cold War would be, we note, a continuation of the political series directed by the previous US President Barack Obama.

The cold war relay, from which Obama himself publicly baptized, was gladly picked up by President Trump, a big supporter of the arms race and a man who bows to R. Reagan. As it is known, it is Reagan who owns the expression about the “evil empire” - as he called the Soviet Union in 1983 year. In the same year, he predicted the fall of "communism." In Moscow at that time, Ronald Reagan was considered the embodiment of the most negative traditions of imperialism and called the reactionary. After all, it was Reagan who unleashed in 1980's. monstrous arms race.

Donald Trump, with his idea of ​​arming America and her allies in Europe, equals Reagan. From this it is clear that strained relations with Russia are beneficial to him, whatever he may say about this. For large-scale production weapons and for the costly modernization of nuclear arsenals, the state needs a reason. “Aggressive” Russia, as it is propagated by American propaganda, is such an occasion. In foreign policy in this respect, Republican Trump differs from Democrat Obama only in that the latter strove to cut military spending, while Trump will increase spending (including at the expense of European NATO partners, who will partially pay for Russia's "containment policy").

Diplomatic scandals are part of the Cold War and will, no doubt, continue. The aforementioned Mr. Obama laid the foundation for them almost a year ago, thus creating a groundwork for the successor. In December of last year, thirty-five Russian diplomats were expelled from the United States under the noisy accusations of "espionage." Russian diplomatic property in the United States was arrested, also under the pretext of "espionage."

Moscow on New Year's Eve behaved peacefully and did not give an answer immediately. Obama was outgoing president: in less than a month Trump was inaugurated. In the Kremlin, apparently, they expected that Trump will conduct a different policy in relation to Moscow. However, such a calculation, if it was, turned out to be erroneous: Trump not only took into account the democrat’s legacy, but went further, in effect unleashing a new arms race.

Time went by. In the summer of next year, the Russian Foreign Ministry was forced to note that the American President was not inclined to resolve a diplomatic conflict.

In addition, pressure on Russia in the form of new sanctions has increased.

The reduction in the staff of the US diplomatic mission in Russia can be considered a response to the actions of US senators who almost unanimously supported the bill on additional sanctions against Russia related to the “interference with the election” 2016 of the year and to the decision of US President D. Trump’s bill turned into law.

Further, Washington closed the Russian consulate in San Francisco and the Russian trade mission in Washington and New York. The US security services searched the buildings, which greatly outraged Russia: Moscow called such searches a violation of the Vienna Convention.

And now it comes to the next response from the Kremlin. Apparently, there is the next stage of diplomatic confrontation. What will it lead to?

“The unresolved issue with our property in San Francisco, which since the closure of the consulate general has ceased to be diplomatic, but remains the state property of the Russian Federation, remains the formal catalyst for the confrontation,” said in an interview "Free Press" Doctor of Political Sciences Mikhail Alexandrov, leading expert of the Center for Military-Political Studies MGIMO. - Americans actually occupy it, do not allow us to dispose of it freely. In my opinion, the measure voiced by Georgy Borisenko is a way to exert diplomatic pressure on the United States so that they do not take new unfriendly steps. ”

According to the expert, the Kremlin should have responded harshly to Washington back in the beginning of 2017. Already then it became clear: Trump, who came to power, is not going to return thirty-five deported Russian diplomats. If at that time Russia really could play a combination with equalizing the number of diplomats - both in the UN and in the embassies, then today it is inappropriate. “The Americans have already hit the wind,” the political scientist recalled. “Therefore, if we go to expel more 155 diplomats, the United States, in response, may cut staff at the Russian Permanent Mission to the UN in New York.” And this is not to our advantage. ”

Yet events can go exactly in this scenario. How will Moscow respond to Washington?

“If the Americans cut our staff at the UN, it will give us an argument to demand that the UN headquarters be moved from the US to another country.” In principle, such a combination can be imagined, but nevertheless it is better to use, I think, other elements of pressure. ”


And the expert gave a specific answer.

It would be possible to “take away the Spaso House mansion on Staropeskovskaya Square” (the residence of the American ambassadors) from the USA. It "historical a building built in the 1910s for the multimillionaire, the “Russian Morgan” Nikolai Vtorov. ” Until 1933, G. Chicherin lived in a nationalized mansion, and then, by order of Stalin, the building was presented to the US ambassador as a residence, and a reception hall was built. “If the United States behaves so ugly, let them build themselves an embassy residence in Moscow, in a simpler place,” the expert concluded.

Mikhail Alexandrov insists that the brazen actions of the Americans became possible because of the specific line of the Russian Foreign Ministry:

“But, I repeat, if we answered mirror-wise from the very beginning, and even with pre-emption, the Americans would not behave arrogantly. It is the current line of the Foreign Ministry - all the time to dodge, retreat, tack, - led to the fact that the enemy bit the bit. ”


As a result, we note, “uklonistskoy” Moscow left two ways out of the protracted diplomatic conflict in which the Kremlin only reacts, and the White House is actively advancing and has already entered into a rage.

One option depends entirely on the manifestation of the goodwill of the two states: the initiator of rapprochement is a meeting at which the parties officially move from the Cold War to the friendship of peoples. About such a policy led by Comrade Gorbachev. Gorbachev's similar policy came as a complete surprise to the United States: at first, the general secretary abroad was not believed, they were looking for a catch. Today, friendship proposals should not be expected either from the Russian side or the American one: Putin is not at all Gorbachev, and Trump is not a supporter of the so-called de-escalation, but an arms race and an offensive on all fronts.

The second option: the resolution of the conflict. Mr. Trump does not always occupy the Oval Office, and the hawk congressmen who occupied Capitol Hill and living in 1970-1980-s patterns, almost all are deeply old (remember McCain). Politics change over the years. It is hard to imagine that Washington is heading towards the friendship of nations, and yet you can: there is no “communism” on the planet (if not counting the country of Kim Jong-un), the USSR is not there either, there is nothing ideologically to divide the USA and Russia, and the world is becoming multi-polar.

Probably, in striving for an independent “resorption” of the conflict, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation conducts a policy that the expert very accurately characterized with the verbs “to evade, retreat, maneuver.”

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  1. vovanpain
    vovanpain 13 October 2017 07: 10 New
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    Probably, in striving for an independent “resorption” of the conflict, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation conducts a policy that the expert very accurately characterized with the verbs “to evade, retreat, maneuver.”

    Tired of this maneuvering, retreat and evasion, so you can retreat to Moscow as in 1941.
    Approximately this policy was led by Comrade Gorbachev.

    Yeah, he succeeded, he sold the power. negative
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 13 October 2017 07: 16 New
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      so you can retreat to Moscow as in 1941.


      And we have already retreated to MOSCOW ...
      The USA is already brazenly building up its forces in POLAND, the BALTIC, ROMANIA, count at our borders ... and here we are discussing goodwill and turnips for ourselves, and what kind of pig the Americans will plant for us ... how much can you ... am am
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 13 October 2017 07: 22 New
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        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        And we already retreated to MOSCOW

        So if you hadn’t surrendered it for the purpose of accumulating strength, as in 1812, then you would have to burn it, damn it, this policy of ostriches was sick of it. am Lavrov expressed a strong protest to Tillerson because of the removal of the flags, Volodin refused the trip of deputies to the United States, they frightened and frightened the mattresses so much that they laughed so hard. am am
        1. johnik
          johnik 13 October 2017 08: 55 New
          +4
          It would be nice to burn it along with the "elite" ...
          1. Barmal
            Barmal 14 October 2017 07: 30 New
            +1
            Start with London. There are Russian elites like a fool shag. There is no demand for Muscovites for elita.
        2. Krabik
          Krabik 16 October 2017 18: 38 New
          0
          Current always happens when the partner has all the trump cards, and you have a shish with oil in your pocket;)
    2. Philip Staros
      Philip Staros 18 October 2017 14: 06 New
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      I completely agree with emotions ...
      But it should be remembered that Russia in this game has a power ratio of about one to eight, which is not in its favor ... Have you imagined yourself (quite steep and strong) in the gateway against eight scumbags? And if right behind you - your children and relatives? Those. at stake is not your honor or even life, but much more ...
      Another question is that at some point the rule will be "hit first" ... The main thing is not to miss ...
  2. Basil50
    Basil50 13 October 2017 07: 12 New
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    And it seems to me that the Americans conduct their business in this way only because they get away with it.
    Even the expulsion of US diplomats was delayed even then. Neither in the SOVIET UNION, nor in RUSSIA were parliamentary hearings held either on the genocide of the Indians, nor on racial segregation, or on military incursions of the United States and its accomplices.
    Even today, when it is clear that the United States is squeezing the property of RUSSIA and then some kind of obscene appeal to the American court, with the prospect of long-term proceedings.
    K Chapek has a short story about how diplomats judge a criminal. It is very similar to the actions of RUSSIAN diplomats, who are so afraid of hurting the subtle spiritual nature of the United States that they are ready to endure both rudeness and outright provocation, yes anything, in the spirit of Kozyrev.
    1. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 13 October 2017 10: 38 New
      +9
      It always happens when collaborators, unprincipled traders, and greedy traitors creep into power. And since the time of the Hunchback era, it is precisely such characters who have been seized in the power of our country. They will sell their native mother for their gesheft, and even more so, the country, the Motherland! What else can you expect from people who came to power thanks to the west. And such bastards as a gref do not consider the inhabitants of Russia as people. And there are many of such vile cosmopolitans there, most ...
      HOW such power can be respected ?! Only contempt and spitting deserve our current masters of the country!
      1. 97110
        97110 13 October 2017 11: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        Only contempt and spitting deserve our current masters of the country!

        The key word is "HOST"! It’s the same for the master what the man of the yard thinks there. He wants - he orders to flog. He doesn’t wish - he doesn’t order.
      2. Alf
        Alf 13 October 2017 22: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        What else can you expect from people who came to power thanks to the west. And such bastards as a gref do not consider the inhabitants of Russia as people. And there are many of such vile cosmopolitans there, most ...

        And who keeps them in the Kremlin at work ??? But the king is good ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 October 2017 22: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: Alf
          But the king is good ...

          And who keeps the king at work?
          1. Alf
            Alf 13 October 2017 22: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Alf
            But the king is good ...

            And who keeps the king at work?

            And he holds on to himself. He has a rating of 86%. Here he chooses himself along with the teddy bear.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 October 2017 22: 35 New
              +4
              Quote: Alf
              He has a rating of 86%

              In Dagestan, in general, 99,9%. Or 120, I don’t remember exactly. laughing
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 13 October 2017 22: 49 New
              +4
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Alf
              He has a rating of 86%

              In Dagestan, in general, 99,9%. Or 120, I don’t remember exactly. laughing

              Quote: Alf
              And he holds on to himself. He has a rating of 86%. Here he chooses himself with a teddy bear

              Bedtime story ...
              "And the last drop fell, and a faceted glass of patience, poured on the 20th year, overflowing with the mountain, was spilled. And sweaty, gloomy, tastelessly dressed people went out into the streets and went to speak with the authorities. On the way they killed policemen, took away weapons in the regional departments, and whoever didn’t have enough, he took up arms in the nearest hunting store. Nobody shouted, but everyone went quickly, the goal was the Main room where he was sitting.
              He, this is the one whom they believed and loved, with whom they pinned their hopes and trusted, who were forgiven for failures and rudeness, spared in Russian, not noticing a snake smile, mean life to the Main room, vindictiveness, greed for money, luxury and power.
              He didn’t even betray them, because he didn’t promise them anything, but, if he did, he promised not to them, but to completely different, significant people!
              - For what, what do they need from me ?! Where is the guard ?! - he thought behind the closed door of the Main room. \
              Security escaped .... because she did not want to give her life for him.
              After all, each security guard had a son who studied at the school of security guards in order to become a security guard and protect someone, but neatly, without risk, for decent money.
              When they broke the beautiful door to the Main room, they saw a dead, small, worthless man in wet pants, and a crying mask froze on his rat face, pumped with botex.
              After this event, a different, good and honest life began. "
              You want a bath, you want not, but a cool thing, a folk thing. good drinks
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 13 October 2017 22: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        HOW such power can be respected ?! Only contempt and spitting deserve our current masters of the country!

        Well, there are more radical measures!
        and the fact that contempt is mutual, so this is a fact, the authorities despise the people, and the people answer them the same.
        Only the people ...., it is no longer the people, but the population itself, but rather those very Gogol "souls".
      4. Philip Staros
        Philip Staros 18 October 2017 14: 06 New
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        Then, if globally - from Khrushchev’s.
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 13 October 2017 10: 55 New
      +5
      And what do you want? We have a pro-American government in Russia. See how it drives the economy! Is it beneficial to Russia? No, it is beneficial to America. There are still questions about the rest ?!
      1. 97110
        97110 13 October 2017 11: 57 New
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        Quote: AKuzenka
        Is it beneficial to Russia?

        It is generally recognized that Russia is a well-organized, DEMOCRATIC state. Allegedly, Stalin, referring to Roosevelt, said that democracy is the power of the AMERICAN people. Therefore, the question is relevant: "Is this beneficial to USA?" And your question is completely inappropriate.
    3. bandabas
      bandabas 13 October 2017 22: 23 New
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      But they are being held about the New Year holidays and other nonsense. By the way, why is the question of deputies of the State Duma with "processing" still not resolved? Poor things. They must be at home after 18.00 p.m. and cook dinner for hungry husbands and children. No one except them.
    4. Barmal
      Barmal 14 October 2017 07: 33 New
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      And it was a Stalinist song - all the offspring and wives of the elite lived in the Union. Chichas is the opposite.
  3. Altona
    Altona 13 October 2017 07: 50 New
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    As Stalin wrote, capitalism easily discards the banner of national sovereignty, and in this case I'm talking about Russian capitalism, which does not uphold the banner of our country. Because Shuvalov and his dogs want to go to Florida, to Miami. And even the President’s Peskov mustache shrugged his shoulders in dismay, calling the act of war (and that’s exactly because our territory has been seized) simply an "unfriendly step." goodwill partners. " We are not responding to this overt fascism.
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 13 October 2017 07: 58 New
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      good So everything will continue in the foreseeable future, unfortunately ... hi
  4. raid14
    raid14 13 October 2017 08: 23 New
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    I remember in 1941, on the eve of the war, they also maneuvered, maneuvered but not caught.
    They delayed the beginning of the war, tried to rearm the army, but did not have time, history repeats itself.
    1. _person_
      _person_ 13 October 2017 12: 48 New
      +3
      Would you prefer not to maneuver and not try to turn the Hitler dog against your master, but to get the war already in 1939? Absolutely with other possibilities of the USSR?
      We would probably not talk to you now in this case.
      If they hadn’t, they wouldn’t have spoken by the way either ..
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 13 October 2017 14: 45 New
      +1
      Whose story is it?
  5. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 13 October 2017 08: 52 New
    +6
    [/ quote] There is no "communism" on the planet (except for the country of Kim Jong-un), the USSR is not there either, there is nothing to ideologically divide the USA and Russia, and the world is becoming multipolar. [quote]
    That's precisely the multipolarity of Americans and infuriates. They do not consider the world a multipolar one. "Communism" with Chinese characteristics is also present in China (and not just in the DPRK, where Korean specifics). But the hatred of the West towards Russia did not begin during the Soviet era, but much earlier. Well, the author’s hope that with the departure of the American old man’s relations will improve, at least, is naive. We won’t wait for them to have an American Gorbachev, such a darned rubber-technical item was possible only here.
    1. johnik
      johnik 13 October 2017 09: 03 New
      +2
      Someone is pushing hard for people to hate the country. We don’t even wipe ourselves off, but from today gayts can whip all citizens anywhere, not just drivers ....!
  6. johnik
    johnik 13 October 2017 09: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: johnik
    Someone is pushing hard for people to hate the country. We don’t even wipe ourselves from the ovs, but today, gayts can whip all citizens anywhere, not just drivers ....!
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2017 09: 57 New
    +2
    "To evade, retreat, maneuver all the time."

    It would not have happened as in the tongue twister - "maneuvered, maneuvered but not caught." And the answer is simply necessary, as Soviet times are instant, and not six months later ... Old diplomats also talk about this.
  8. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 13 October 2017 10: 14 New
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    "To evade, retreat, maneuver all the time."

    maneuvered, maneuvered, but not you maneuvered ...
    there is an unbreakable principle of reciprocity in diplomacy, and the Americans are well aware of this

    Americans know it, but ours have forgotten to see about this principle ...
    The Americans are actually occupying it

    and what should be done with the invaders ??? Huh?
    Moscow is already considering the possibility of reducing the number of employees of the US diplomatic mission in Russia to three hundred people.

    I believe that having reduced the person to 3 .. no one will notice any changes .. well, unless they are lovers of their "painful" relatives in the USA.
    ps Of course, it is clear that Russia is not the great and mighty Soviet Union but ... a sense of self-respect for the country, and should it be for itself? Or does this apply only to internal use?
    1. 97110
      97110 13 October 2017 12: 15 New
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      Quote: kunstkammer
      a sense of self-esteem for the country, and even to ourselves should be?

      Do you offer to become like North Korea? Everyone else licks the American anus and is preoccupied most of all where to put slicked from the mouth. The expulsion of a crowd of American diplomats is an extraordinary event. The EP Party and the EP Government are currently expecting the expansion of the harder, the fall of heaven and other manifestations of the anger of Jupiter. They will remember that we in Christ’s jurisdiction and Jupiter are not under jurisdiction, will take our breath and ... cross ourselves.
  9. Multicast
    Multicast 13 October 2017 11: 00 New
    +3
    Look guys, and if we are now responding insolently and with lightning speed - this closes not 2 people but all 150 within 200 days, the FSB immediately visits all the missions, and we also close access to the house where the main ambassador lives. After a bold response, we get the answer in the form of closing our diplomats at the UN, and after that we announce that if we are not allowed into the UN then we will not vouch for Ukraine, because the West itself has moved us away, which means our hands will be untied and a full-scale attack on Kiev the DNI and the LC. While the West and SGA are recovering with the support of Russia, the DPR and LPR are putting Ukraine under their control and with the deaths and with the cutting out of all the right-wingers. What will happen next xs but the idea is good. But if you look into the distance, then the Russian leadership will not act, but will delay and strengthen the power of our army.
    1. 97110
      97110 13 October 2017 12: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Multicast
      What comes next xs but the idea is good

      There is even better. They showed just now on a box that in Russia they gave birth to an innovative technology for disabling sewage from unintentional persons. Introduce innovation in Russian-American relations and oblige our Masha to master the mocking “including the fool” answer methodology adopted and successfully used by the State Department.
  10. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 13 October 2017 11: 14 New
    +5
    We’ll chew the snot .... the more loyal we are with the United States, the more impudent they will be .... and this situation will worsen ... what all this will lead to is very difficult to say
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich 13 October 2017 11: 27 New
    +9
    I never thought that Russia would be "patient" in this diplomatic situation. Honestly, I did not expect. Even if they do something later, the train left with a beep.
  12. _person_
    _person_ 13 October 2017 12: 25 New
    +6
    Yeah guys ..
    The article is essentially the emotional delirium of a madman, counting on the righteous anger of the frantic "cheers-patriots" who do not see the trees behind the trees. Of which in our country, and on this resource in particular, a great many are represented.
    A kind of stuffing, a divorce on emotions, in the form of "scattering leaflets", but in fact an act of information sabotage, aimed at weakening the enemy (represented by Russia) in the mental plane. For those who are in a emotional state of soberness, they are no longer able to assess the situation and cause-effect relationships.
    The opinion of the so-called "some experts":
    Some experts believe that the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs is characterized by the line “to evade, retreat, and maneuver all the time”.

    Obama's policy, Trump's policy, King Pea's policy:

    The cold war relay race, which Obama himself publicly denied, was joyfully picked up by President Trump


    Donald Trump with his idea to arm America and its allies in Europe equals Reagan. From this it is clear that strained relations with Russia are beneficial to him, no matter what he says about this.

    Well, for dessert:
    According to the expert, the Kremlin should have toughly responded to Washington at the beginning of 2017. ... the actions of the Americans became possible because of the specific line of the Russian Foreign Ministry:
    “But, I repeat, if from the very beginning we answered in a mirror, and even with a lead, the Americans would not act so brazenly ..

    And is this the level of our experts? Doctors of Political Science? Shoulder straps poured glasses on his nose moved - all - the elite, the intelligentsia. We can sneeze at least the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, at least the presidents, and anyone in the tail and in the mane, but no one gave a word to the servants, did not honor him with honorary regalia - they do it.
    In this case, this individual, if this bullshit is sincere in nature, I would like to advise you to undergo treatment in specific institutions. If the character is nonsense malicious - then the conclusions should already be stricter.
    Weren't these “expert" gorlopans, by the way, led by LDPR leader VV Zhirinovsky, ready to gouge with D Trump as part of the pre-election battles in the US
    You were warned in plain text, including and GDP, that Russia does not have any illusions about Trump - it is a patriot of its own country, the embodiment of a living AMERICAN dream, what do you expect from it? But Russia will not be in a hurry and will let the new team show up ..
    Apparently including so that such “experts” would not have any idiotic questions later, why did it suddenly the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Foreign Ministry for no reason go mad and attack the “favorite of Russia” of his “protege at the head of the USA”.
    Despite the fact that the president in the USA is a status phenomenon, image-building, with which management is associated, the Lincoln and Kennedy, and not only, have clearly demonstrated to us the real limits of the possibilities to pursue their "independent" policies in the USA.
    And now look at how they started singing, "from the very beginning it was necessary to respond in a mirror way." "Foreign ministry! Disperse everyone"
    What is this “beginning” from? Since the collapse of the USSR and the tacit agreement of our "elite", with the active support of the same "experts" in the media field, on the status of our country as a banana republic?
    Or even before the moment when the "elites" began to merge all the achievements and interests of Russia / the USSR where it was possible in order to accelerate the process of collapse?
    “It was necessary to answer in a mirror” - you already answered in the arms race!
    Is everything small? Again the same rake.
    Do we even have bright resources and opportunities to respond to the global hegemon?
    Our economy is equal to or superior to the US economy?
    What - our special services are sitting in all the capitals of the world, including under diplomatic cover, dictating the will of the elite elite of Russia?
    Do we have the largest military budget in the world? Or do our aircraft carriers provide "executive power" to advance political interests in the oceans?
    Are our military bases scattered all over the globe?
    Did you want to respond mirror-like in the 90s or 2000s? Or in 2014-2016?
    Is it “mirror” in general how to create your ISIS somewhere in Mexico so that they can cut and kill children there in the interests of another political party? The USA has already implemented it!
    Or should our diplomats respond in response to the nonsense and the obvious juggling of facts from across the ocean so that we would be ridiculed by formal media in the world media?
    You need to answer in accordance with the resource capabilities, effect, and the real political situation. Guided by incl. the appropriateness of a particular moment.
    The United States in its hysteria, destroying everything in its path, and violating even the unshakable foundations of world diplomacy, themselves sawing the branch on which they sit. This is a shot in the foot from the Americans, if you want.
    What do we have to mirror ourselves in the foot in response?
    You are raving. In everything.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 13 October 2017 18: 32 New
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      Quote: _man_
      You are raving. In everything.

      And many people like fellow
  13. Altona
    Altona 13 October 2017 13: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: raid14
    They delayed the beginning of the war, tried to rearm the army, but did not have time, history repeats itself.

    -------------------------------
    Here it’s not even quite so. The Americans understand that to compete with us in the war is complete nonsense, and it’s not even a nuclear war, but a simple conventional war, there they will also do little if Saddam succeeded only after betrayal. The Americans (in this case, globalists, of course, not the American people) are advancing on other fronts. If in sport they take our flag from us, then why not continue to take away our sovereignty? Bit by bit, biting a bit-sport, Ukraine, consulates and trade missions. And our Foreign Ministry is washing itself - family, children, business in the USA. The "great athlete" Zhurova, who is sitting in the State Duma, has directly stated that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs needs to act cautiously and sideways, otherwise it will blunder by chance, and children in the USA are business. So we have such Madame Zhurov all the Government and the Duma. Therefore, only remarks about "unfriendly actions" and "concerns", and our territory has already been captured. Ukraine, consulates. But we play in kindness, in the “friendship of peoples”, in “partnership”, and as a result in trump card, we betray our military in Syria.
  14. African
    African 13 October 2017 14: 04 New
    +1
    It was the current line of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs — to evade, back down, maneuver all the time — that led the enemy to bite the bit ”- Kutuzov, Ushakov, and further down the list our other Winners also maneuvered, evaded, retreated when the time came, everything fell on their places. I hope that these maneuvers are caused by necessity. And the fact that the Americans got into a rage is even very good. It will be more painful.
  15. askme
    askme 13 October 2017 14: 10 New
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    Russia pursues only one policy: its own strengthening) That is, Russia responds when it is profitable for it and evades hysterical answers where they do not add credibility to it in the world. With its firm restrained, deliberately responsible position, Russia has recently strengthened its international authority so much that it is already called the sovereign of the East throughout the world. The leaders of the CIS countries only got closer to Putin and Russia, respect for Russia increased simply clearly, as can be seen at the last CIS summit in Sochi. Leaders from all over the world go to Putin.
    Russia is not a rash dog) This is a lion. If really growls - mongrels under benches hide. And the rest - behaves with dignity)
  16. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 13 October 2017 15: 21 New
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    Lavrov maneuvers, according to his last name. Does it catch?
  17. Essex62
    Essex62 13 October 2017 16: 32 New
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    Look guys, and if we are now responding insolently and with lightning speed - this closes not 2 people but all 150 within 200 days, the FSB immediately visits all the missions, and we also close access to the house where the main ambassador lives. After a bold response, we get the answer in the form of closing our diplomats at the UN, and after that we announce that if we are not allowed into the UN then we will not vouch for Ukraine, because the West itself has moved us away, which means our hands will be untied and a full-scale attack on Kiev the DNI and the LC. While the West and SGA are recovering with the support of Russia, the DPR and LPR are putting Ukraine under their control and with the deaths and with the cutting out of all the right-wingers. What will happen next xs but the idea is good. But if you look into the distance, then the Russian leadership will not act, but will delay and strengthen the power of our army.

    LDNR will be able to put up no more than 50 thousand active bayonets if they "scrape along the guts" The mattresses in Poland have a full-fledged division, the APU also did not doze off, there are combat-ready units. Plus, those same Psheks, together with the owner, can very well pull the leg. Air support over the geyropa is not a problem at all. No, Kiev in the current conditions can not be taken. GDP correctly waits in geyrop and presses in Syria. The idea, comrade, is beautiful but will not work.
  18. Aspid 57
    Aspid 57 13 October 2017 20: 50 New
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    This is all nonsense! The level of Russia’s blows is such that the response to them is no longer in the competence of the Foreign Ministry! This is Putin's slobbering!
  19. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 14 October 2017 09: 37 New
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    All this will happen as long as there are Jewish thieves at the helm of power, such as the Chubais, Kudrins, and other bastard ...
  20. Sergey086
    Sergey086 14 October 2017 09: 42 New
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    What do we have to mirror ourselves in the foot in response?

    The only adequate comment .....
    Well, really, how should Russia respond? Standing in front of the White House in Washington shit in his pants?
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 14 October 2017 15: 26 New
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    Second option: resolving the conflict
    Those who ever hoped to resolve any conflict always invariably lost! It is possible (and necessary) to speak with Americans exclusively in a language they understand - a “mirror", and a proactive reaction to any of their hostile actions! The lack of an adequate reaction to hostile actions, or the "pacification" of the enemy always led to defeat. This is taught to future diplomats, and Lavrov. as well as other leaders cannot but know these principles of foreign policy. And if they do not want to do this, then they pursue some kind of their own goals! A logical question arises: which ones, and do they coincide with the interests of the Russian people !? recourse
  22. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 15 October 2017 11: 25 New
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    I completely agree with M. Aleksandrov, if you retreat, dodge and hide, then the fig would need Putin himself with his Crimea? So they do not defend their interests! Is this the “high” calm of Lavrov or Putin’s leberast advisers? Of course, this will not resolve, even the last grandmother in our village knows about it, but the whole Russian elite doesn’t have enough? Maybe in vain Lavrov in diplomats, maybe it is easier for him to show his eloquence as a spokesperson?
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 15 October 2017 11: 40 New
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    I completely agree with M. Aleksandrov, if you retreat, dodge and hide, then the fig would need Putin himself with his Crimea? So they do not defend their interests! Is this the “high” calm of Lavrov or Putin’s leberast advisers? Of course, this will not resolve, even the last grandmother in our village knows about it, but the whole Russian elite doesn’t have enough? Maybe in vain Lavrov in diplomats, maybe it is easier for him to show his eloquence as a spokesperson?

    As for the eloquence of Lavrov, you got excited! And as a spokesperson, instead of famous people, a political scientist would rather come up, and blogger Sergey Mikheev is a concrete, “intelligible” person, without curtsy and “kitchen snot”!