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The Embassy of the Russian Federation demanded the return of Russian flags to the building of the diplomatic mission in San Francisco and the trade mission in Washington. Flags were removed by order of the American authorities. Recall that earlier Russian diplomats were actually driven out of the building of the consulate in San Francisco on the pretext that the building was allegedly being used to intervene in US domestic policy. After that, the building was searched, and even with the opening of the floor and ceiling.


The Russian embassy publishes a tweet:
We demand the immediate return of Russian flags to the buildings of the Russian consulate in San Francisco and the Russian trade mission in Washington, as well as to prevent such actions in the future.


It was noted that the “American side” expressed a “strong protest” in connection with the actions related to the removal of Russian tricolors from buildings in the United States.

Already Russian flags removed ...


From Twitter Embassy:
We regard this as an extremely unfriendly step.


We remind you that Russia is still not undertaking retaliation against American demarches.
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Embassy of the Russian Federation
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  1. alekc75
    alekc75 12 October 2017 06: 03
    +46
    pull the rubber on, soon mattresses will sit on your head !!!!
    1. Genych
      Genych 12 October 2017 08: 32
      +11
      They would even be afraid to approach the flag of the USSR.
      1. insular
        insular 12 October 2017 08: 39
        +10
        Quote: Genych
        They would even be afraid to approach the flag of the USSR

        The flag of the USSR, removed by the USSR itself, fulfilling the will of the lord for 30 pieces of silver, so not to the cashier.
        And do not measure where you would be afraid and when. The main thing is that now the USA has done this without even a feeble attempt at an answer. Even without the visibility of the answer!
        And I believe that by this our authorities inflicted an insult on the people of Russia, even more than the enemy who took down the flag.
        (Foreign Ministry’s abhorrence on Twitter doesn’t count)
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 08: 57
          +1
          Quote: insular
          Quote: Genych
          They would even be afraid to approach the flag of the USSR

          The main thing is that now the USA has done this without even a feeble attempt at an answer. Even without the visibility of the answer!
          And I believe that by this our authorities inflicted an insult on the people of Russia, even more than the enemy who took down the flag.
          (Foreign Ministry’s abhorrence on Twitter doesn’t count)

          And why should we make a feeble attempt to answer, or even create only the appearance of an answer? To show our weakness and incapacity?
          The people in Russia are more likely to be offended if the authorities respond quickly and weakly than if slowly but strongly.
          Something you are tricking ...
          1. insular
            insular 12 October 2017 09: 33
            +7
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            And why should we make a feeble attempt to answer, or even create only the appearance of an answer? To show our weakness and incapacity?

            This is not a question on which you need to answer strongly and / or slowly - quite specularly and instantly. The closure of deep institutions is answered by the closure of deep institutions immediately and not after years.
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            The people in Russia are more likely to be offended if the authorities respond quickly and weakly

            And you take a look at historical retrospective. Once, they had already waited for “friends to change their minds” and “a new friendly administration should not suffer”, they sent diplomats only after a long period, answered, but in the end it was a slow and untimely response, which had already led to the alleged response from the new administration. The result is humiliation.
            1. Slovak
              Slovak 12 October 2017 17: 20
              +2
              Throw them out of the center of Moscow! Let the Consulate General open in the Crimea! Why should scumbags provide the center of the capital? Let them rejoice that the Crimea is Russian, and the climate is better
            2. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 10: 44
              0
              Quote: insular
              The closure of deep institutions is answered by the closure of deep institutions immediately and not after years.
              And you take a look at historical retrospective. Once, they had already waited for “friends to change their minds” and “a new friendly administration should not suffer”, they sent diplomats only after a long period, answered, but in the end it was a slow and untimely response, which had already led to the alleged response from the new administration. The result is humiliation.

              They respond to closing by closing, and right away ... Well, let them answer. What do we need? They have their own methods. We have ours.
              Sent, after a while. This is normal. First, they suggested putting the question in order. Then, having not received an answer, we figured out how it will be more profitable for us. And they did.
              In my opinion, everything is correct. Or did you have to drool and hysterically do whatever?
              The result is humiliation, say ... How easy it is to humiliate you))) As long as we look into the mouths of the bourgeois (including ours), we will be humiliated by definition. You are not looking for enemies there.
    2. Gradus HuK
      Gradus HuK 12 October 2017 13: 49
      +1
      Our ,, chosen ones''like water from a goose. Like pi .... sa butter. It’s a shame for the state!
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 October 2017 06: 09
    +8
    We didn’t let go before the enemy
    Proud St. Andrew's flag!
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 12 October 2017 07: 49
      +17
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      We didn’t let go before the enemy
      Proud St. Andrew's flag!

      The Americans did it for you.
      . We remind you that Russia still does not take retaliatory measures against the American demarches.
      But if the Kremlin is not worried about the Russian reputation, is not afraid to lose face, then let it continue in the same spirit.
      Such things amount to an attack on a country. And the answer to this should be, at a minimum, to throw all American mongrels out of the American embassy and tear off their flag. They do not understand another language. The reaction that Russia demonstrates to the ugliness of the Americans is a kind of invitation to continue to act as well.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 08: 10
        +14
        It seems that the unprincipled nature of our government will leave this trick of the Yankees unanswered. In the end, think of the flag, if only trillions withdrawn from the country would not be touched in offshore!
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 12 October 2017 08: 26
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        Did it for you

        This is unfortunate! And unrequited!
        1. Oleg Monarchist
          Oleg Monarchist 12 October 2017 11: 19
          +3
          Uncle lee
          Quote: Stas157
          Did it for you

          This is unfortunate! And unrequited!


          Just the same, the Andreevsky flag, they are afraid to lower it, because it is on the ships of the Russian Navy and some "exceptional" ones may die, and they are very afraid of this. Or, for example, at the Khmeimim airbase, remove the Russian flag .... so they can be killed there. And in America, to remove the flag from a closed consular post is absolutely safe, because Russia will not start a war with them because of this. Well, or against the background of Ivangorod with an American flag to take a picture, it's safe, but no one has seen the same photos in Mosul. A cowardly nation, these are exceptional.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 October 2017 08: 13
      +4
      We didn’t let go before the enemy

      and dedicate this to whom?
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 12 October 2017 08: 42
        +8
        Quote: Gardamir
        and dedicate this to whom?

        It struck me how calmly Yeltsin lowered the flag. No sounds were even opposed, not that demonstrations, rallies, indignation! And at the same time, the reaction of the Chinese ambassador was completely moved when he said that tears had flowed at that time.
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 09: 05
          +4
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Gardamir
          and dedicate this to whom?

          It struck me how calmly Yeltsin lowered the flag. No sounds were even opposed, not that demonstrations, rallies, indignation! And at the same time, the reaction of the Chinese ambassador was completely moved when he said that tears had flowed at that time.

          What happened then is a different story. Then the state was in force (although it was already painful), and citizens became ideological impotent with brainwashed by perestroika. Periodically, I got into the hands of all sorts of books from the late 80s, where the communists were lined up with the ram, and all our past, our whole life and goals were washed away in the tank. Absolutely monstrous opuses were written and published officially. Goebbels is just a child compared to perestroika propogandons.
          In short, you are wrong when equating the situation with the flag then and now. If there is no way to effectively respond, then why amuse the geese ... If there is, then offer.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 12 October 2017 09: 11
            +7
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            In short, you are wrong when equating the situation with the flag then and now. If there is no way to effectively respond, then why amuse the geese ... If there is, then offer.

            Offered the same. At least do the same with the Americans. Drive American diplomats into the neck into the street (within 48 hours), and rip off their rag over the embassy.
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 11: 41
              +1
              Quote: Stas157
              Quote: osoboye_mneniye
              In short, you are wrong when equating the situation with the flag then and now. If there is no way to effectively respond, then why amuse the geese ... If there is, then offer.

              Offered the same. At least do the same with the Americans. Drive American diplomats into the neck into the street (within 48 hours), and rip off their rag over the embassy.

              Do you think this step will help to raise the prestige of our state? If we do not have the opportunity to protect our flag in the camp of the enemy, then we also need to fall low and tear other people's flags at home? As soon as we do this, we will immediately put ourselves outlawed, like the Yankees. Why do stupid things to please your vanity?
              1. insular
                insular 13 October 2017 00: 51
                0
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Do you think this step will help to raise the prestige of our state? If we do not have the opportunity to protect our flag in the camp of the enemy, then we also need to fall low and tear other people's flags at home?

                And everything from your level of knowledge ...
                According to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations 1961 norms of diplomatic interactions and obligations are established.
                States can respond to violations of their obligations by means of a set of actions, some of which are retorsions, others reprisals. Where Retorsion is a reciprocal constraint.
                And such an answer would be:
                AND). Legal from the point of view of international law.
                B) It is clear to us, partners from the rest of the world and the United States.
                AT). It does not allow one to lose prestige, leaving boorish studies without a diplomatically competent answer.
                D). Instant Retorsion does not exclude further measures of a deeper nature.
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 09: 26
                  0
                  Quote: insular

                  According to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations 1961 norms of diplomatic interactions and obligations are established.

                  This is your only true statement. Everything else is fantasy. Show me, with a quote, where the convention states that you can break flags.
                  Failure of the flag is a crime. And if someone is killed at the embassy, ​​should we also kill in return?
                  Before assessing the level of other people's knowledge, try to show the level of your own. So far, I see some manipulations on your part.
                  1. insular
                    insular 13 October 2017 09: 40
                    0
                    Alternatively, thinking is not my part. If you haven’t been banned in Google, try searching by keywords. Think Enlighten. All is not lost yet
  3. hrych
    hrych 12 October 2017 06: 11
    +24
    Our people are not allowed to travel, ordinary people don’t go to America because of the lack of extra money, and there’s nothing to see in America either, there are no historical monuments, lousy skyscrapers are everywhere. It is not necessary to look at Harlem and Brooklyn faces. Therefore do not care. By 750 deportees, it is planned to continue in the same vein until the mutual paralysis of diplomatic missions. Moreover, the worse they are, the less heaped they will create. It won’t hurt our intelligence, we have other methods and they don’t close at the embassy.
    1. insular
      insular 12 October 2017 06: 39
      +8
      Quote: hrych
      and also in America there is nothing to watch

      Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Grand Canyon
      And with a couple of dozens of outstanding places that I would like to see with much more pleasure than the Swallow's Nest, the Wall of China or the Pyramids of Egypt with other dubious historical monuments of the world ...
      Quote: hrych
      ordinary people do not go to America due to lack of extra funds

      There is something to see, here you are wrong, and flying to there is cheaper for residents of some regions of the Russian Federation than to Kaliningrad, Sochi or the Crimea, so they are also wrong.
      The cost of living there, did not go cheaper than Sochi or Crimea, so this is completely by.
      Knowledge of the language and the language barrier? Yes, this is nonsense. There are a lot of people capable of quite tolerably speaking English.
      1. Yu-81
        Yu-81 12 October 2017 06: 54
        +15
        Such as you did not ask. Want to watch, ride. And preferably there and stay. Such lovers of Russia are clearly useless.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 10
          +10
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          lovers of Russia
          A lover of Russia must necessarily hate America? Logics? No, have not heard.
        2. insular
          insular 12 October 2017 07: 11
          +8
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          Such as you did not ask

          You were asked, yeah. Have you taken on a lot now? And who are you at all to indicate something? Or what I listed is an achievement of the USA? Am I inspired by nature created to somehow betray the homeland? In general, see a serious quarrel with logic ...
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          And preferably there and stay. Such lovers of Russia are clearly useless.

          You (certainly not after you), in general, what do you know and have seen in Russia? You probably have visited more than once in Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands?
          Such individuals freeze to a tooth grinding.
        3. nemec55
          nemec55 12 October 2017 07: 58
          +9
          Such as you did not ask. Want to watch, ride. And preferably there and stay. Such lovers of Russia are clearly useless.

          Who has done you such? What kind of ignorance of a person immediately send away Do you take this person? he may have done more for the country than all your relatives put together over the past 300 years
      2. PN
        PN 12 October 2017 06: 55
        +1
        I agree. That's just in vain you have put the pyramids and the wall on a par with dubious monuments. They are magnificent and so on.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 10
          0
          In the States, a lot of their architectural monuments built in the 18-19 centuries.
        2. insular
          insular 12 October 2017 07: 14
          +2
          They don’t argue about tastes, I’m just saying that the ruins of different kinds didn’t impress me, I’m such a man of low culture that looking at the mountains of construction debris does not inspire me when this construction debris is not scattered, at least 1000, at least 10 years back.
          But the beauty of nature - pull.
      3. mad
        mad 12 October 2017 06: 55
        +9
        Quote: insular
        There is something to see, here you are wrong, and flying to there is cheaper for residents of some regions of the Russian Federation than to Kaliningrad, Sochi or the Crimea, so they are also wrong.

        And if you are lucky, then you’ll stay there for 30 for years ... for example, they will find a laptop in things and sew interference in their home elections, or the arms / drugs trade for a couple of likes on social networks. Say hello to Booth!
        1. insular
          insular 12 October 2017 07: 12
          +4
          Quote: mad
          And if you're lucky, then you’ll stay there for 30 years ...

          On the curates of Turkey, Egypt and Thailand, most popular for our people, this option is much more palatable.
          Yes, and it’s a sin to hide ... Being beaten in the middle of the federal highway, robbed and with a wrecked car for no reason, is easily possible with us (and sometimes from government officials).
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 12
          +5
          And in Russia, almost specially trained KGB fighting bears in leather jackets, earflaps and assault rifles catch innocent citizens and send them to the Gulag.
          1. insular
            insular 12 October 2017 07: 24
            +3
            Yeah)) bears and stripes are available.
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 09: 17
              0
              Quote: insular
              Yeah)) bears and stripes are available.

              Some kind of postanova. Some homeless people on the bus. Why did the operator stop on the highway at the request of some dead gazelle in civilian numbers? Is he out of his mind?
              Why couldn’t I get away from the gazelle? Some nonsense ..
              In short, without exact dates and places, it’s not possible to accept your video as truth.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 12 October 2017 09: 26
                +7
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Why couldn’t I get away from the gazelle? Some nonsense ..

                You would hardly have called it bullshit in such a situation. And what's the difference, what could a man and what could not?
                Here you are, these are the ones that collect the Rosguard.
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 11: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Stas157

                  Here you are, these are the ones that collect the Rosguard.

                  Your statement is an ordinary manipulation.
                  Especially considering that in fact you have not answered a single question.
              2. insular
                insular 12 October 2017 09: 39
                +2
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Some kind of postanova.

                This is a real case. You can search yourself.
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Why did the operator stop on the highway at the request of some dead gazelle in civilian numbers? Is he out of his mind?

                Firstly, he is not an operator but a driver, but frames from the DVR, and secondly, if you watched, he was blocked by the road.
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Why couldn’t I get away from the gazelle? Some nonsense ..
                Where? to the chipper? Or maybe ramming cars? After all, if you watched the video, there is a stream, and all those whom it overtook went behind.
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                In short, without exact dates and places, it’s not possible to accept your video as truth.

                Don’t take it, is there a little lawlessness on the road without this video? Do you live in a vacuum?
                The conversation was about the safety of traveling around the country, like they can be arrested there ... Well, here we can no less.
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 11: 52
                  0
                  Quote: insular
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Some kind of postanova.

                  This is a real case. You can search yourself.
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Why did the operator stop on the highway at the request of some dead gazelle in civilian numbers? Is he out of his mind?

                  Firstly, he is not an operator but a driver, but frames from the DVR, and secondly, if you watched, he was blocked by the road.
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Why couldn’t I get away from the gazelle? Some nonsense ..
                  Where? to the chipper? Or maybe ramming cars? After all, if you watched the video, there is a stream, and all those whom it overtook went behind.
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  In short, without exact dates and places, it’s not possible to accept your video as truth.

                  Don’t take it, is there a little lawlessness on the road without this video? Do you live in a vacuum?
                  The conversation was about the safety of traveling around the country, like they can be arrested there ... Well, here we can no less.

                  If this is a real case, then please show it. Post the video yourself, and show it yourself. Instead, you send to prove the reality of your fantasies. This is not the case.
                  Nobody blocked the road to him. The places to leave were in bulk. On the right side of the road, between the cornfield and the gazelle, turn around and back. If you do not know how to ride, then do not show your inability to people. Do not leave shnivy with a gazelle, when you are not weak dismantling threatens, it must be very unloving. One of the two is either staging, or for the cause (he stopped).
                  Instead of the place and date of the incident, you are talking about lawlessness and vacuum. Until you confirm that your vidos is not fake, there is no more lawlessness in it than in your throw-in.
                  1. insular
                    insular 12 October 2017 23: 57
                    0
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    If this is a real case, then please show it.

                    Do I owe anything more?
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    reality of your fantasies

                    Fooled? If you thought that this was a fantasy, then according to your own logic, be kind to refute it.
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    Nobody blocked the road to him.

                    A cornfield stands in front, on the side of it a gazelle clamped to a stop.
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    do not know how to ride, then do not show your inability to people.

                    Do you even know the PPD? I see that you do not know him at all.
                    I would already understand that you would in this situation, go overtaking the gazelle on the road, clamped on both sides by a bump stop, through a double continuous one, and you would cut it yourself and leave through a double continuous one and would not allow yourself to block. Such as you are generally heroes, the truth is only in the internet.
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    Until you confirm that your video is not fake,

                    I don’t owe you anything at all. Walk like a wagging gait
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 09: 35
                      0
                      [quote = insular] [quote = osoboye_mneniye] If this is a real case, then please show this. [/ quote]
                      I owe nothing more? [/ Quote]

                      Nothing else.

                      [quote = osoboye_mneniye] Nobody blocked the road to him [/ quote]
                      A cornfield stands in front, on the side of it a gazelle pinched to a stop.
                      Do you even know the PPD? I see that you do not know him at all.
                      I would already understand that you would in this situation, go overtaking the gazelle on the road, clamped on both sides by a bump stop, through a double continuous one, and you would cut it yourself and leave through a double continuous one and would not allow yourself to block. Such as you are generally heroes, the truth is only in the internet. [/ Quote]

                      If I were in a situation where three cars are trying to stop me with intentions unknown to me, then that would be what I would have done. Or right on the side of the road. Better to pay a fine for violating traffic rules than to ride a wheelchair. Do not you teach me to ride.

                      [quote = osoboye_mneniye] Until you confirm that your video is not fake, [/ quote]
                      I don’t owe you anything at all. Walk with a waning gait as I rolled up [/ quote]

                      I really have to. And to me, and to all who vidos fell out here. You, comrade, go under an article, and you yourself do not understand this. You are engaged in slander against public authorities. What you have not yet been attracted to is someone's flaw. I warned you. If you have enough mind, then you will understand correctly.
                      1. insular
                        insular 13 October 2017 09: 41
                        0
                        This is some kind of drug debris ... How can I comment on this? laughing To the right is a chipper, by the way, and this is another proof that you write without thinking at all.
      4. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 09: 12
        +2
        Quote: insular
        Quote: hrych
        and also in America there is nothing to watch

        Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Grand Canyon
        And with a couple of dozens of outstanding places that I would like to see with much more pleasure than the Swallow's Nest, the Wall of China or the Pyramids of Egypt with other dubious historical monuments of the world ...
        Quote: hrych
        ordinary people do not go to America due to lack of extra funds

        There is something to see, here you are wrong, and flying to there is cheaper for residents of some regions of the Russian Federation than to Kaliningrad, Sochi or the Crimea, so they are also wrong.
        The cost of living there, did not go cheaper than Sochi or Crimea, so this is completely by.
        Knowledge of the language and the language barrier? Yes, this is nonsense. There are a lot of people capable of quite tolerably speaking English.

        The taste and color, as they say. Most people have no time to ride in America - you need to work. And if you set yourself the sightseeing of world sights, then seriously say that first of all you need to visit a country that is 300 years old, at least it is not serious. And to explore the whole of Europe, and the ancient states, this whole life is not enough. So the last inspection of America, and rightly so.
        About cheap tickets overseas, did you joke like that?
        1. insular
          insular 12 October 2017 09: 43
          0
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          need to work

          There is a vacation - This is legal, but working without a vacation is a violation of the law .. Is there something smarter?
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          300 years old country

          Chukchi is not a reader? I would read and not disgrace, I wrote about natural and not artificial.
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          then seriously talk about what is first necessary
          If I had bothered to think, I would have understood that this was an answer to the opus of a man who said without a small amount that there was nothing to look at in half of the continent. This is not true. And what in which turn ... Case ten.
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          About cheap tickets overseas, did you joke like that?
          In google banned? Or farther across the ocean than across all of Russia?
          1. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 12 October 2017 12: 10
            0
            Quote: insular
            There is a vacation - This is legal, but working without a vacation is a violation of the law .. Is there something smarter?

            You obviously could not say smarter))) It's five!
            Quote: insular
            Chukchi is not a reader? I would read and not disgrace, I wrote about natural and not artificial.

            You compare national parks with Chinese walls and Egyptian pyramids there. Parks with parks and compare. Apart from American parks, there is still something to look at. If you do not know, then do not disgrace. Decide what you are broadcasting about. You have some kind of porridge.
            Quote: insular
            In google banned? Or farther across the ocean than across all of Russia?

            From the European part of Russia and from Siberia, Crimea is closer. From the Far East it is closer only to Alaska. And beyond the parks - across the Pacific Ocean. In any case, the distances are comparable. But the inhabitants of the Far East not only live very much there, so do not feed them bread, let them fly to America to see the park. I'm touching you ..
            1. insular
              insular 13 October 2017 00: 04
              0
              With reading and thought processes, everything is not very, as I see it?
              Quote: osoboye_mneniye
              Apart from American parks, there is still something to look at. If you do not know, then do not disgrace

              Quote: osoboye_mneniye
              let them fly to the park in america

              Parks this was the answer to:
              Quote: hrych
              nothing to watch in America

              And to whom what to look and in what turn - it didn’t give your mind, do you even have what it is to decide for someone?))
              1. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 09: 42
                0
                I see that you understand me perfectly. In essence, they did not answer anything. Thus, your mistakes are recognized. One of the two of us with the thought process as a result of complexity, now everyone can clearly see))
                1. insular
                  insular 13 October 2017 09: 47
                  0
                  I don’t understand at all.
                  You tried to prove something to me, I did not even understand what exactly.
                  I poked you with your nose, into what you didn’t think and didn’t understand, and now you are pretending that you convinced me laughing Fantastic!
                  What should I answer, and even in essence? wassat Initially, the dialogue was built on the basis of my answer to another person, a copy see above. The fact that a certain person with an alternative opinion tried to prove something to me is the grief of the alternative thinker.
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 18
                    0
                    Quote: insular
                    I don’t understand at all.
                    You tried to prove something to me, I did not even understand what exactly.
                    I poked you with your nose, into what you didn’t think and didn’t understand, and now you are pretending that you convinced me laughing Fantastic!
                    What should I answer, and even in essence? wassat Initially, the dialogue was built on the basis of my answer to another person, a copy see above. The fact that a certain person with an alternative opinion tried to prove something to me is the grief of the alternative thinker.

                    Well, if it didn’t come, try again ...
                    You are talking about how it is cheaper to fly to Sha than to Crimea did not answer. This time.
                    You did not answer about your comparison of parks with pyramids. This is two.
                    Since you have enough. Go get ready for the re-examination))
                    And think again, there are too many people around you with an alternative opinion, in your opinion. You put your precious opinion right in the center, since the other opinions are alternative. Think about it right. Think about whether it’s normal that everything around is alternative, and you are the only one Dartanyan. You may already have become an outcast without noticing it yourself.
                    Let's talk about it ...
      5. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 12 October 2017 19: 31
        0
        Quote: insular
        Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park,

        Langley, Fort Meade, Mount Weser, Cheyenne Mountain, Fort Knox, building at Arlington, Virginia 22202 ... smile
        1. insular
          insular 13 October 2017 00: 38
          0
          There only on tanks good and maybe someday.
      6. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 13 October 2017 05: 45
        +2
        And with a couple of dozens of outstanding places that I would like to see with much more pleasure than the Swallow's Nest, the Wall of China or the Pyramids of Egypt with other dubious historical monuments of the world ...
        According to your statement, world-class historical monuments cannot be compared with
        Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Grand Canyon
        3.14th, what did the volcanoes themselves drill or dig a grand canyon? How great yukry wassat
        1. insular
          insular 13 October 2017 06: 29
          0
          Quote: astronom1973n
          3.14th, what did the volcanoes themselves drill or dig a grand canyon?

          This is an imagination, come up with this wassat Friday has just begun, where is it so early to get into it?
          1. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 13 October 2017 09: 16
            0
            Besides the fact that you carry nonsense you are also a boor! Admire further and admire America.
            1. insular
              insular 13 October 2017 09: 42
              0
              Well, let's say nonsense so far only from you, with the complete distortion of my words. So what did you drill craters there for? The topic is not disclosed ....
              1. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 22
                0
                Quote: insular
                Well, let's say nonsense so far only from you, with the complete distortion of my words. So what did you drill craters there for? The topic is not disclosed ....

                Look, at least three people with your "alternative" opinion say that you are mistaken and rude.
                This is a reason for you to think ... is it time to change?
              2. astronom1973n
                astronom1973n 13 October 2017 11: 57
                0
                I quoted your phrases! What did I mislead you about? And read my comment carefully, observing punctuation and exclamation marks. I understand that in America they read superficially, but not like you.
        2. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 20
          0
          he has already moved above this topic)) He is rushing about, poor ...
  4. bald
    bald 12 October 2017 06: 11
    +4
    And they are needed there if our diplomats are not there. To tear off the flags of the Russian Federation, with their dirty hands, is no longer within any bounds. Yes, they should not have touched them. A flag is a symbol of the state and a stranger should not touch it. Well, we will wait a long time for an answer, I think in many cities of Russia there will be unauthorized burning of a striped mattress.
    1. hrych
      hrych 12 October 2017 06: 18
      +8
      Quote: bald
      Well, we will wait a long time for an answer, I think in many cities of Russia there will be unauthorized burning of a striped mattress.

      This is the lot of Arabs, Iranians, Koreans. Than to deal with nonsense with burning, let's better collect the anniversary Yars and McCain will cover a fit of tantrum, you'll have to cut something else out of the head.
      1. bald
        bald 12 October 2017 06: 28
        +2
        You can also Yars, although nothing can be cut out of the void. And at the expense of burning, we also have enough radicals, and others, one damn thing will work.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 14
      +2
      Quote: bald
      I think in many cities of Russia there will be unauthorized burning of a striped mattress.
      Apparently in Russia people have nothing to do at all, no need to go to work, no household chores. It remains only to burn American flags.
      1. bald
        bald 12 October 2017 07: 25
        0
        There, a little higher - we also have enough radicals, and others, one damn thing will work.
  5. pexotinec
    pexotinec 12 October 2017 06: 28
    +6
    It seems to me that everything is slowly going towards suspension deep. relationship. And this leads to other thoughts. They would hit the base in Syria with the Amer militants and watch the reaction. Leave one embassy and reduce the number of diplomats to a minimum. Maybe the flags were returned back. These ghouls only understand power.
    1. Socialism 2.0
      Socialism 2.0 12 October 2017 06: 58
      +4
      To do this, you need steel eggs, but there are only eggs and big cheeks - which are periodically puffed up in the Kremlin, threatening a finger to Western partners. Shame on Putin’s foreign policy. Wants to be good for everyone.
    2. Antokha
      Antokha 12 October 2017 14: 18
      0
      Definitely the right decision
  6. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 12 October 2017 06: 34
    +5
    And where, finally, inevitable instant mirroring? We cannot economically punish sodomists; but there are no problems at all.
  7. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 12 October 2017 06: 35
    0
    Why doesn’t he do anything? They are waiting for the cunningly officially apologized apologies, so this will never happen.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 October 2017 06: 35
    +5
    Demand, express "resolute protest" - all to no purpose. Americans revel in their impunity and already openly mock Russia. Further it will be even worse. Previously, you had to think and act. For some reason, in Soviet times, they did not allow themselves this.
    1. White and fluffy
      White and fluffy 12 October 2017 12: 31
      0
      But what if Putin knows God's punishment while it collapsed on the Merikos. And he relies on the will of God's tsunami, the volcano wakes up. He does not want to take sin into his soul.
  9. novobranets
    novobranets 12 October 2017 06: 41
    +6
    Flashing the national flag is no longer a joke, it is a revealing, cynical disrespect for the country. "On duty" concerns, and the next protests will not give anything. The answer should not only be equivalent, but also make it clear to the "wise men" of the states that doing this with Russia, and not only with Russia, with any independent country, is dearer to itself. The states sent two Russian diplomats, so you need to drive out the twenty-striped, and kick them to the airport. Well, this is for example. Otherwise, next time the mattresses will publicly wipe their feet on this flag.
  10. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 12 October 2017 06: 43
    +7
    I am a normal person, but the desire to spoil the building on Novinsky Boulevard begins
  11. Radikal
    Radikal 12 October 2017 06: 46
    +2
    Quote: insular
    Quote: hrych
    and also in America there is nothing to watch

    Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Grand Canyon
    And with a couple of dozens of outstanding places that I would like to see with much more pleasure than the Swallow's Nest, the Wall of China or the Pyramids of Egypt with other dubious historical monuments of the world ...
    Quote: hrych
    ordinary people do not go to America due to lack of extra funds

    There is something to see, here you are wrong, and flying to there is cheaper for residents of some regions of the Russian Federation than to Kaliningrad, Sochi or the Crimea, so they are also wrong.
    The cost of living there, did not go cheaper than Sochi or Crimea, so this is completely by.

    A flag in his hands, a drum on his neck, a wind in ... his back! wassat
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  13. Snail N9
    Snail N9 12 October 2017 06: 48
    +9
    "Be-ee-bee-ee-be-eee" is the usual bleating of our Foreign Ministry instead of decisive actions to close all consulates in Russia, which still do not issue visas to Russians and it is not clear what they are doing. The cool thing is that the American DIP missions are the largest in Russia but issue the least visas to our citizens. Erdogan immediately responded to the termination of the issuance of visas to Turkish citizens by the Americans, and to explain this act, he cited the American explanation simply by changing the names of the countries in it to the opposite. In Russia, only the plaintive type of "appeals".
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 October 2017 07: 23
    +4
    The Russian embassy publishes a tweet:
    We demand the immediate return of Russian flags to the buildings of the Russian consulate in San Francisco and the Russian trade mission in Washington, as well as to prevent such actions in the future.

    ... is that all? ... they sweat with their feet and sewed into the wall? ... they were very frightened, of course, the mericatos ... "It's a shame for the state!" (with). angry
  15. Greenwood
    Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 24
    0
    It is so funny to read the righteous anger of the "patriots." By God, more fun than the article itself.
    1. Antokha
      Antokha 12 October 2017 14: 20
      +1
      Would you go from here
  16. Altona
    Altona 12 October 2017 07: 34
    +4
    Quote: insular
    Rocky Mountain National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Grand Canyon

    -----------------------------------
    It would be interesting to go to Georgia and Tennessee to Florida. Simple guys live there, so-called rednecks, peasants in our opinion. The nature is beautiful, there are many animals, deer and bears in particular. Georgia is a mountainous state, several climatic and subclimatic zones, as in the Crimea.
    As for the flags, we should already have to answer. Putin’s deflection is not counted, partners only become impudent and gain confidence that Putin will bend further.
    1. insular
      insular 12 October 2017 08: 05
      0
      Quote: Altona
      It would be interesting to go to Georgia and Tennessee to Florida. Simple guys live there, so-called rednecks, peasants in our opinion. The nature is beautiful, there are many animals, deer and bears in particular. Georgia is a mountainous state, several climatic and subclimatic zones, as in the Crimea.

      Yes, for a keen on photography - this is a dream. In fact, if you start listing, it will take a lot of time and not list everything. It’s very stupid to say that in a country occupying half the continent there is nothing to watch ..
      Quote: Altona
      As for the flags, we should already have to answer.
      Must IT WAS to answer, as a result, they didn’t respond normally and lit up whining in tweeters with half-crooked comments by quite officials. It does not give honor.
  17. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 12 October 2017 07: 49
    +4
    And what else, besides "concern", can these worried MIDs express ...? After all, they live onet "there", but "here" only earn. As long as real estate, money and the "children" of deputies in "Europe", everything will only get worse. But the "worship and morals" in honor now, and in the State Duma they think about prayers, and not about the state. Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors..
  18. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 October 2017 08: 17
    +5
    Yes, drop it! We have the most influential president, everyone is afraid of him. The genius of foreign policy!
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 12 October 2017 11: 47
      +4
      And so in the economy so much more ... !!!
      It would be of gold, he wouldn’t have a price ...
  19. bsk_una
    bsk_una 12 October 2017 08: 52
    +5
    The position of Putin and Lavrov is not clear. They don’t understand that Americans are such a people that they only understand the change cuff. Stop mocking yourself, the people, the country. Only adequate measures can restore the mind of the Americans. They were born with Colt, because they respect him.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 12 October 2017 09: 18
      +4
      Seriously? Will they act differently if they are presented with adequate measures?
      This will not work, because on ADEQUATE measures we have no opportunities !!!
      Only a certain part of the population to please ... like that's how we them!
      The rest of us will be unhappy or perplexed ... well, why is it puffing up, since we can’t really be at least equal in this matter ???
      Grit your teeth and work, work. work ... people will understand and support.
      We are able to understand and work, and if you have to wait !!!
      1. insular
        insular 13 October 2017 00: 40
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        Well why puffed up, since we can’t really be at least equal on this issue ???

        And is mirror closing not equal?
        Quote: rocket757
        on ADEQUATE measures we have no opportunities !!!

        And what is in your understanding of “Adequate measures” and why you decided that “there are no possibilities !!!” ?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 13 October 2017 15: 31
          +3
          To act impudently, like bandits from the wild west ... this is not possible ... they still will not reach them. and losing face because of such goats ... "partners" is stupid.
          By principle, do not let go? so most of the international organizations are located there, on it.
          What's next? consular services do not provide ... and it will benefit?
          For me, it would be adequate not to invite them to resolve issues where they have a direct interest ... this is not done for them.
          So it turns out, wherever you go ... yusovtsi are needed everywhere. It’s better to see them than they will spoil from far away.
          Anyway, it won’t pass for them ... it doesn’t. all bastard ... and you have a solid Laf.
          I am not a supporter of turning the second cheek when they stopped on the first ... but this is completely different. if you embed, then so that the teeth fly out, scratch or spit the enemy without real consequences ... nope.
  20. gelezo47
    gelezo47 12 October 2017 09: 30
    +2
    The question to our Foreign Ministry is: When will this nagging stop? When will there be decisive retaliatory actions? ...
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 10: 53
      0
      Quote: gelezo47
      The question to our Foreign Ministry is: When will this nagging stop? When will there be decisive retaliatory actions? ...


      Duc and go to the border, where it is hotter. There is a longboat and backwaters. And then you’re sitting, sitting on the couch, it’s a shame for his power .. You know what to do, do it. If you don’t want to do it, don’t waste your tongue for nothing.
      1. gelezo47
        gelezo47 14 October 2017 15: 39
        0
        And you don’t touch my longboat with a sofa. You grind in a language! I call a spade a spade ...
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    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 12 October 2017 11: 57
      +5
      Yes sneezing at these flags, diplomats and the state too ...
      There are trillions withdrawn.
      It’s hard to even imagine such numbers ...
      And what, is it all like that to take and lose? One and all? For what?
      What about children? Where to study for children?
      And the wives? What, never, never go there again?
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 10: 55
        0
        Quote: I doubt it
        Yes sneezing at these flags, diplomats and the state too ...
        There are trillions withdrawn.
        It’s hard to even imagine such numbers ...
        And what, is it all like that to take and lose? One and all? For what?
        What about children? Where to study for children?
        And the wives? What, never, never go there again?

        Tell us more about trillions. And about wives and children, too. Everyone is interested to know. And then you know something (you haven’t heard on the OBS, you know), and don’t tell anyone ... It’s not good.
  22. Stoler
    Stoler 12 October 2017 10: 05
    +4
    As our bureaucrats calmed down and pressed their ears. Money is all there. The answer is scary! wink
  23. Fox
    Fox 12 October 2017 10: 10
    +3
    Well ... urgently express another "concern".
  24. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 12 October 2017 10: 29
    +3
    I don’t remember that somewhere the USSR flag would be removed. Yes, this is not our country. It's a shame. Perhaps the authorities can not do anything against the amers as they have money there. What if they arrest everything that was acquired not by hard labor.
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 10: 59
      +1
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      I don’t remember that somewhere the USSR flag would be removed. Yes, this is not our country. It's a shame. Perhaps the authorities can not do anything against the amers as they have money there. What if they arrest everything that was acquired not by hard labor.

      First you return the power to the people, and after that you will nod to the flag of the Soviets. Behind that flag all the people stood. Behind the new flag is far from the whole ... Return to the state all that you privatized earlier, and then, perhaps, our flag will become more significant. And then it's all your fault. And the apartments built on the land of national enterprises and summer cottages on collective farm land, you go, you have long registered your property)))
  25. Cobalt
    Cobalt 12 October 2017 10: 33
    0
    Quote: insular
    The Wall of China or the Pyramids of Egypt with other dubious historical monuments of the world ...

    Apparently they are waiting for you there ..... Yes, there! Centner laughing the universe!
    And the rest of the world .... dubious ...
  26. VL33
    VL33 12 October 2017 12: 49
    0
    harness for a long time, but then horseradish will be sweeter for mattresses)
    1. Socialism 2.0
      Socialism 2.0 12 October 2017 13: 07
      +2
      your words are a rotten excuse justifying Putin's indecision and inaction.
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 03
        0
        Quote: 2.0 Socialism
        your words are a rotten excuse justifying Putin's indecision and inaction.

        Show Putin how to act, if you know. At least in its place. Once the presidents have not grown ...
        Share your decisive achievements. And then, it seems to me that by decisively pumping the country in the 91st, you are also decisively pumping it today. Give you only the opportunity.
  27. Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 October 2017 13: 04
    0
    Brazen spin in the style of our 90's.
    Well, the strong ones spit on any rules.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 12 October 2017 13: 44
      +4
      Let's see ... many of those dashing push-ups ended badly.
      Some are still living ... let's see
  28. Antokha
    Antokha 12 October 2017 14: 16
    +3
    Yes, how much can you wipe yourself!
  29. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 October 2017 15: 12
    +4
    Quote: insular
    answer with the closure of deep institutions and immediately and not after years.

    The cat must be poked with his nose into the puddle he made right away, after 3 minutes he does not understand what he is being punished for! So here it is necessary to act - did something - got an answer. And do not chew snot and "strongly warn."
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 12 October 2017 22: 26
      0
      These cats have a memory of their own nasty things in three minutes, and the mattresses have only five seconds! After which they become partly hohlami: And we for sho?
  30. Brigadier
    Brigadier 12 October 2017 19: 19
    +2
    2020 year ...
    The Embassy of the Russian Federation 2557 times demanded the return of Russian flags to the building of the diplomatic mission in San Francisco and the trade mission in Washington ... wassat
    ... and Vaska listens, but eats ...
  31. APASUS
    APASUS 12 October 2017 21: 47
    +3
    So it's time!
    It’s time to cover Coca-Cola plants once for a sanitary day and in the USA they will immediately think about it, it won’t work out differently!
  32. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 12 October 2017 22: 22
    +2
    [b] We remind you that Russia still does not take retaliatory measures against the American demarches. [/ b
    But is it not time to withdraw absolutely all the diplomats from the tin, sell off all the property, and send all the striped saboteurs from Russia? And if someone from the mattress really wants to go to Russia, then they will be happy to issue visas at the Russian consulate located in Caracas!
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 05
      0
      Quote: sharp-lad
      [b] We remind you that Russia still does not take retaliatory measures against the American demarches. [/ b
      But is it not time to withdraw absolutely all the diplomats from the tin, sell off all the property, and send all the striped saboteurs from Russia? And if someone from the mattress really wants to go to Russia, then they will be happy to issue visas at the Russian consulate located in Caracas!

      You offer self-isolation. This is exactly what they are trying to push us to with such provocations. If you were so smart, but in power, you would have broken firewood for us, yes ...
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 13 October 2017 17: 54
        0
        I propose to isolate myself from the tin, and not from the whole world. If people like me are in power, then for the first two years, according to the precept of Ilyich, I studied, studied and studied to lead the state, and only then I would begin to lead.
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 15 October 2017 09: 07
          0
          Quote: sharp-lad
          I propose to isolate myself from the tin, and not from the whole world. If people like me are in power, then for the first two years, according to the precept of Ilyich, I studied, studied and studied to lead the state, and only then I would begin to lead.

          Everything was more complicated there. From production (from an ordinary employee to the head of an enterprise and joining a party - many years) to delegates. Of the delegates to the Politburo and the Central Committee, this is also many years. And then - how the party will decide. Putin has 2 years of training long ago.
          And further. Ilyich did not say at all that for leadership of the state it is necessary to study 2 years. You messed up something.
          We cannot isolate the gap in diplomatic relations only from Sha, since under Sha there is half the world. You must understand this well.
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 15 October 2017 22: 03
            0
            Well, I wouldn’t be alone at the helm. It will take me 2 years to understand what you can’t do! And to study anyway it is necessary almost continuously all my life.
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 15 October 2017 22: 07
            0
            It is really not possible to completely isolate oneself from the world, including or not including mattress, without leaving its limits, but the demarche would turn out to be quite good and instructive. smile
  33. Nemesis
    Nemesis 13 October 2017 02: 16
    +1
    To remove all US flags in Russia, he will leave one US consul in Moscow, with a dozen diplomats, the rest to be deported to his homeland ... The USA is being impudent because Moscow allows impudence. It is time to stop this.
  34. 1536
    1536 13 October 2017 10: 55
    +1
    When a military unit lost the banner on the battlefield, this military unit was subject to disbandment, the commanders went to the tribunal. It is known from history that those who were surrounded in the first months of the Great Patriotic War, our commanders and soldiers, first of all, saved the banners of their defeated units, with the hope that under these banners, leaving the encirclement, they themselves would destroy the hated enemy.
    And even earlier, in the Korean port of Chemulpo, our cruiser Varyag did not lower the Andreevsky flag from the ship’s flagpole, and only after being unable to continue resistance against a twenty times superior enemy, the sailors themselves removed the flag and brought it to Russia through all hardships and persecutions.
    And today, our Foreign Ministry is preoccupied with the life of birds, those same falcons and eagles, not an ornithologist, I don’t know who settled on the roof of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Moscow. Well, the "flag" in their hands! But poor birds do not know that in which case no one will reckon with them?
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 13 October 2017 11: 27
      0
      You have so carefully cited combat examples.
      So now in the war we do not lower the flags. Something has changed?
      And about the Foreign Ministry ... Do you know the Foreign Ministry of any country that can prevent the abuse of its flag in Sha? Give examples..
  35. 1536
    1536 13 October 2017 11: 35
    +2
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    You have so carefully cited combat examples.
    So now in the war we do not lower the flags. Something has changed?
    And about the Foreign Ministry ... Do you know the Foreign Ministry of any country that can prevent the abuse of its flag in Sha? Give examples..

    You know, dear, I’m probably not giving you an example. Because a self-respecting state in such cases does not allow wide publicity of such kind of actions by the enemy side in relation to itself. And we are intensely stuffed with such information from morning to evening, they say, look, "winners", what you have lived up to. So you have to understand? And the diplomatic couriers who accepted death from a gangster bullet, but did NOT give the state secrets to the hands of the enemy, as it was in Soviet times, are no different from our military. That's all.
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 15 October 2017 08: 52
      0
      Quote: 1536
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      You have so carefully cited combat examples.
      So now in the war we do not lower the flags. Something has changed?
      And about the Foreign Ministry ... Do you know the Foreign Ministry of any country that can prevent the abuse of its flag in Sha? Give examples..

      You know, dear, I’m probably not giving you an example. Because a self-respecting state in such cases does not allow wide publicity of such kind of actions by the enemy side in relation to itself. And we are intensely stuffed with such information from morning to evening, they say, look, "winners", what you have lived up to. So you have to understand? And the diplomatic couriers who accepted death from a gangster bullet, but did NOT give the state secrets to the hands of the enemy, as it was in Soviet times, are no different from our military. That's all.

      Probably, in official actions it is better to proceed from what is really possible in the current situation. Russia's achievements are quite small compared to the Soviets. Therefore, the flag of the Soviets was much higher than the flag of Russia. I explained why above. Yes, you yourself, probably, understand this well.
      Therefore, the Soviets (and you are exactly equal to the reaction to abuse of the flag precisely by Soviet standards, and not world standards, I asked you to give examples from world practice to show you this) could behave in the same way as you say. But Russia cannot.
      Russia is not the USSR. Russia is fully integrated into the world community and is very dependent on it. Russia understands this, therefore, in order to cease to be a hostage to world integration, it is creating its own economic pole in the east. Nevertheless, they understand that an alternative to this pole is only a people's state behind the Iron Curtain. If the people's state is good, then the Iron Curtain has a number of shortcomings, which partly led to 1991 (an isolated society is easily manipulated).
      In general, the reaction of the Russian government to flag abuse is just the tip of the iceberg.
      So far, we can only defend our flag by military means. Russia has no such leverage in the international arena as the USSR. So far, Russia has only an army and, compared with other countries, a sane population.
      In general, my opinion is that we must endure and work so that we can respond as adults, and not stomp our feet in impotent anger for the amusement of enemies.