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The IDF is preparing a hybrid military operation against the armed forces of Syria under the guise of a conflict with the army of Lebanon and Hezbollah

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Being at the Middle East crossroads of the geostrategic and economic interests of the leading powers of the world, the rather insignificant Syrian theater of operations continues to drag into the conflict more and more “players” of regional importance who are interested not so much in eradicating the US-sponsored pseudo-caliph represented by ISIL (IG, prohibited in Russia ), how much in obtaining its own benefit to control one or another part of the Syrian Arab Republic torn by war. At the moment, the Syrian territory is a complexly structured operational-tactical "conglomerate", where each section (the governorate or its parts) is controlled by a certain paramilitary unit belonging to the pro-Western, pro-Russian or pro-Turkish camp. Thus, the United States dictates its regional interests in the SAR at the expense of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), represented mainly by Kurdish people's self-defense detachments (YPG and YPJ), which are currently moving in the direction of the settlement of Shinan, taking control of Misla and Mikhemed (they are trying as soon as possible to reach the “oil fields” of Deir-ez-Zor). The ultimate goal of the SDF and the United States is far from suppressing all IG fortifications on the west bank of the Euphrates, but to deter the advance of the Syrian Arab Army eastward. As a result, the SDF militants, as well as the SSO and USP servicemen, use informal channels of interaction with the IG, providing the latter with medicines, food and light weapons in exchange for quick access to the necessary operational areas near the Euphrates.

As it became known recently, the military base of the MTR and USMC units in At-Tanf, covered by mobile MLRS HIMARS, and also located on the territory controlled by the Syrian Free Army, is a transfer point and a kind of training center for IG militants used by Americans to reduce the offensive speed CAA operations in the Deir ez-Zor area. A vivid example was the arrival of the IG terrorists from the controlled SSA and the Americans under the X-NUMX At-Tanf who attempted to take under fire control the strategically important Damascus - Deir-ez-Zor route, which delivered new ammunition to the offensive "kulak" of the Syrian army armored vehicles, artillery, as well as means of logistics.

Ankara is counting on its capital. The command of the Turkish Armed Forces continues to build up its military grouping in the province of Idlib (northwestern Syria), partly controlled by the Free Syrian Army (FSA). The officially announced goal of transferring Turkish armored units to Idlib is to control the new de-escalation zone, the boundaries of which were approved in the framework of agreements reached between representatives of Russia, Iran and Turkey in early October in Astana, and also to prohibit the reunification of the Kurdish enclave in the area of ​​the Afrin city with the main group The SDF, whose western border is located in the vicinity of the city of Manbij (the enclave is separated from the main grouping of the territory controlled by the SSA, Al-Ray). Ankara’s great concern is caused by the possibility of liquidation of the SSA units in the Al-Ray district with the formation of a continuous section of the Syrian-Turkish border, controlled by the Kurds (up to the Mediterranean coast).

Despite this, Turkey may well build far-reaching plans for a future presence in Syria. Moreover, they can secretly be consistent with the ambitions of Washington. Do not forget that any cooperation with the Turkish side has its pitfalls and may well turn into unforeseen circumstances. We managed to observe a great many similar “friendly impulses” from Ankara. It is impossible to completely exclude the possibility that Turkey is reinforcing the armor “backbone” in Idlib for a lightning throw in a southerly direction, the purpose of which will be to reunite the northern bridgehead of the trust Syrian Free Army with the grouping in the At-Tanfa region, as well as scattered fortified areas near Jerud and Al- Mushrifah. What does this mean for SAR and Russia? Firstly, the division of the territory controlled by the CAA. The Eastern group of the Syrian army in this case may be in a large tactical "boiler", surrounded by the SDF (from the north and east), as well as the SSA (from the southern and western directions).

It is predicted that in this insidious action of the Turks, American forces concentrated on military installations near the border At-Tanfa can be supported, and they will advance to the north. Assessing the current operational and tactical situation in the Syrian theater of operations, it can be argued that such a military action is beneficial to both Washington and Ankara. Americans get a weakened (taken in the "boiler") eastern grouping of the Syrian Armed Forces, unable to conduct military operations for oil fields east of Deir ez-Zor, and the Turks - huge tracts of Syrian territory in the provinces of Essaouida, Damascus, Homs, Hama, Aleppo as well as Idlib. Then the division of territories can be continued between Washington and Ankara, as well as the VTS (SDF) and the SSA under their control. It is impossible to reject such an unfavorable forecast of the development of the situation, because Turkey continues to remain a member of NATO, and even brazenly “shakes the law” to provide critical production technologies for the C-400 anti-aircraft missile system; one contract was not enough for them.

In which direction the situation with the oil fields under Deir ez-Zor will continue to develop, as well as with the release of the eastern territories of the SAR by the forces of the Syrian army and the Russian Aerospace Forces, we will be able to see already at the beginning of 2018. But with confidence it can be stated that in this case Moscow has provided most of the scenarios. Thus, in the vicinity of Hama and Homs, additional batteries of anti-aircraft missile self-propelled complexes Pantsir-S1 and long-range SAM systems C-400 Triumph were deployed to cover the unseen sectors of Syrian airspace in the area of ​​the Jebel Ansaria mountain range, where you should expect the likely American “Tomahawk” strikes on the rear forces of the CAA to support the upcoming YPG and YPJ. It is worth considering the fact that the leadership of the Kurdish self-government of the Federation of Northern Syria (Rozhava) agreed to negotiate with official Damascus with the mediation of the Russian Federation. Naturally, the Kurds will act exclusively under the dictation of US senators and field commanders, because the decisive changes that for many years to come must mark Washington’s control zones in the eastern and northern parts of Syria are at stake. Here we can face many variations of the temporary separation of ATS.

Washington and Ankara are not the only "players" who want to grab an impressive jackpot from the Syrian company. Recently, Tel Aviv has increasingly been reminded of itself. I remember well the speech of the Chief of Military Intelligence of the Israel Defense Forces Directorate (IDF) Major General Hersi Halevi at the 16 of the Herzliev Conference, 15 June 2016, where a high-ranking military official outlined all the advantages of his presence in the ISIS region in Syria. For example, regular terrorist actions of the Islamic State in relation to neighboring states help to preserve the presence of superpowers in the region, and the clash of interests of the latter automatically distracts the attention of Syria, Iran and Shiite organizations from Israel. In other words, on the bones of the neighboring nations that are totally destroyed, according to Mr. Halevi, Israel should flourish!

And such statements sound instead of building adequate and constructive relations with neighboring states. But a year and a half passed, and the Halevi plan did not translate into reality in its entirety. The replenishment by the Israeli structures and Washington of the pseudo-caliphate in the SAR was not able to reverse the natural change in the situation in favor of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian Arab Army. Destruction of a defense enterprise in Banias with a tactical precision strike aviation Hel Haavir also became only a drop in the ocean of those achievements that became possible due to the interaction of the SAA with the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Tiger Forces, Hezbollah and the IRGC units. On the horizon loomed the final victory of the Syrians over terrorism, which would again put Israel in the spotlight of the Sunni and Shiite states of the Near Asian region. Israel is fundamentally not happy. A radical solution was needed that could stretch the conflict for another years with the simultaneous involvement of a new "player", and, apparently, such a solution was found.

Without any evidence, the head of the Israeli Defense Ministry, Avigdor Lieberman, said that the Lebanese Armed Forces would come under the control of Hezbollah, according to a REGNUM information and analytical resource referring to the Associated Press. For us this news absolutely not carrying any negative information load, because Hezbollah is one of the main components of the fight against Islamic State in Syria, and representatives of the movement defended the interests of Lebanon during two bloody wars. Consequently, the subordination of the Lebanese army to the organization (if this is a fact) does not pose any threat to either the CAA or the Russian contingent in Syria. For Israel, this situation is catastrophic, because it was this organization that was able to give a fitting rebuff to the IDF armored and infantry units that are launching an offensive during the Second Lebanon War, and today, after incessant clashes with IG militants, Hezbollah fighters are even more tactically literate and motivated than 11 years ago. It is very predictable that Tel Aviv will not miss the opportunity to use the information announced by Lieberman (despite the degree of truthfulness) in its favor. From the official Israeli “bell tower”, these data announce a new round of the Israeli-Lebanese conflict, with an unofficial one - they provide military-political carte blanche for simultaneous introduction into the “Syrian redistribution”. The "loophole" and high-tech tools from the AOI for this more than enough.

Thus, as a main ally in the fight against Hezbollah and the Lebanese army subordinate to it, Tel Aviv can designate the Syrian Free Army (SSA), a decent grouping of which is currently located east of the Golan Heights. Somewhere under the Tasil or Tafas, the Israeli military can set up a training center for training SSA fighters, whose attacks against the Syrian and Hezbollah forces will be carried out under the cover of tactical fighters and UAV Khel Haavir.

The clearest evidence of close cooperation between Israel and the SSA rebels is a congratulatory letter sent to the Israeli government on Independence Day, April 23 on 2015, where Musa Ahmed Nabhan, FSA foreign relations officer, expressed hope with the Jewish state politicians in Damascus. This information was confirmed after a more thorough study of the problem by the staff of The Wall Street Journal, who were able to expose Israel’s support not only to the so-called “moderate opposition”, but also its own offspring - the Golan Knights, as well as the IG militants, who enclave to this day it lives well in the Golan in the region of Abdin and Jamlah. All these levers, driven by cunning and thoughtful brains, can do a lot of trouble for the entire eastern part of the Mediterranean.

This is quite enough to divert part of the Syrian army from the confrontation with the IG, which in the end can stretch the conflict for a considerable period of time, on which the emphasis was made on Major General Herzie Halevy. Very important is how the command of the Russian Aerospace Forces will manifest itself if the IDF begins a similar military operation of a hybrid nature, cunningly disguised by the threat allegedly emanating from the "new" Lebanese army. Here you have to apply only mirror tactics. This and the timely transfer by CAA of the required types of high-precision weapons and direct military support using resources transferred to Tartus, Hamim and other military facilities in Syria.

Information sources:
http://inosmi.ru/politic/20170828/240125221.html
https://forum.pravda.com.ua/index.php?topic=842011.0
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=18432&p=5
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 October 2017 06: 54 New
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    Apparently, even when ISIS (those whom they do not have time to destroy) will be squeezed out from the territory of Syria, everything “interesting” will begin there. Too many eaters with large spoons stand in line despite the fact that these eaters have made virtually no contribution to the fight against terrorists, but rather helped them.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 12 October 2017 07: 22 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      Apparently, even when ISIS (those whom they do not have time to destroy) will be squeezed out from the territory of Syria, everything “interesting” will begin there. Too many eaters with large spoons stand in line despite the fact that these eaters have made virtually no contribution to the fight against terrorists, but rather helped them.


      Turkey is a very special eater: the cunning calf Erdogan sucks at two mothers!

      Well, nothing - cunning-cunning, already d-u-r-a-k!

      In Russia, they talk ...

      And mothers can dramatically turn into brands!

      And then what will the cunning upskirt suck?
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 12 October 2017 15: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Titsen
        And mothers can dramatically turn into brands!

        In the bulls. laughing
        Quote: Titsen
        And then what will the cunning upskirt suck?

        Exactly. laughing
  2. Yoshi
    Yoshi 12 October 2017 07: 38 New
    +2
    Kedmi explained everything: "Israel and Russia have an understanding of mutual interests"
    1. Alikos
      Alikos 12 October 2017 12: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Yoshi
      Kedmi explained everything: "Israel and Russia have an understanding of mutual interests"

      Again, the Zionists are plotting some dirty tricks and, as always, with the wrong hands ...
  3. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 07: 49 New
    +3
    For Israel, hezbollah is a much greater threat than IS. So he fights with her
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 October 2017 09: 01 New
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      Any militarily strong regime among the countries surrounding it is a critical threat to Israel. Since such a regime will require returning your own. Israel seized territory from all neighbors ... So Hezbollah is just an excuse. The goal is, of course, Assad.
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 09: 08 New
        +3
        The repeatedly beaten Asadov family does not pose a threat. But the terrorists of Hazbala yes.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 13: 14 New
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          Ken71 Today, 09:08 ↑ New
          The repeatedly beaten Asadov family does not pose a threat. But the terrorists of Hazbala yes.
          Terrorists are Israelis, and Hezbollah is Lebanese guerrilla patriots fighting for their freedom and independence from Israeli terrorists!
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 13: 16 New
            0
            I didn’t want to give you a plus for this nonsense. But he promised to help before the lieutenant general therefore receive.
          2. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 12 October 2017 15: 44 New
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Terrorists are Israelis, and Hezbollah is Lebanese guerrilla patriots fighting for their freedom and independence from Israeli terrorists!

            wassat wassat wassat
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      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 12 October 2017 09: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Any militarily strong regime among the countries surrounding it is a critical threat to Israel. Since such a regime will require returning your own.


        that is, a strong Iraq or Egypt, the Saudis of Ementi or Iran will demand to return theirs. what's yours?
      3. db1967
        db1967 12 October 2017 10: 38 New
        +7
        The current leadership of Israel and the Israeli media - IMHO continuous anti-Iranian tantrum negative
        How much is all paid for by the Wahhabis - God knows ...
      4. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 12 October 2017 10: 45 New
        +3
        I would like to clarify: what territories Israel "snatched from all neighbors" - Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia? With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, the original Israeli territory allocated specifically to Israel by the League of Nations, whose decisions were recognized by the UN as its successor. Congratulations, Mr. liar.
        1. andj61
          andj61 12 October 2017 11: 20 New
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          Quote: Rogue1812
          I would like to clarify: what territories Israel "snatched from all neighbors" - Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia? With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, the original Israeli territory allocated specifically to Israel by the League of Nations, whose decisions were recognized by the UN as its successor. Congratulations, Mr. liar.

          You too can be congratulated on the same. -You are also a lie!
          The League of Nations has never allocated anything to Israel, and it could not have allocated: when the League of Nations existed there was no Israel. request
          The territory of Palestine, which includes the current territory of Israel, Jordan and the lands under the Palestinian Authority, was recognized as a mandated territory of Great Britain and included the Golan. Part of the land of Palestine, including the Golan, according to the text of the sixth paragraph of the mandate, was allocated to the land, where "the settlement of Jews was encouraged."
          In 1922, the League of Nations decided to divide the former Syrian dominion of Turkey between Great Britain and France. Great Britain received Palestine, including modern Jordan, and France - modern territory of Syria and Lebanon (the so-called "mandate of the League of Nations"). The League of Nations, on the basis of the decisions of the conference in San Remo, gave the United Kingdom a mandate for Palestine, explaining this by the need to "establish the country's political, administrative and economic conditions for the safe formation of a Jewish national home."
          The British mandate for Palestine was to take effect in September 1923, but England transferred the Golan Heights to France in March 1923, and they became part of the French mandate for Syria and Lebanon. At the beginning of 1924, in accordance with the agreements, France transferred to the British Mandate Management the border section of the territory on which the sources of Liddani (Dana) and the ruins of Tel Dan are located.
          Since that time, the Jewish attempts to establish settlements here met with constant opposition from the French authorities of the mandated Syria. hi

          Regarding territorial claims against Israel - of the current states only Syria has them and only in terms of the Golan. Unless, of course, not counting Palestine as a state. With regard to the origins of Liddani (Dana) and the ruins of Tel Dan, Lebanon did not make a claim about the sources of Liddani (Dana) transferred to Britain and later included in Israel. hi
          1. Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 12 October 2017 13: 01 New
            +4
            You have an interesting position, however. Recognizing my innocence in all respects except for the Golan, you accuse me of lying. In other words: my bacon, me on the wort. Will not work. You know, not a Christian, to turn, then one cheek, then the second.
            Therefore, the thesis that Israel didn’t seize is from all neighbors, we will not dispute. Golan remained. You, judging by what I read in your post (it does not matter before reading my post, or after) in the know. Well, so why get out on a principle, we read here, we don’t read here, but do we wrap fish in it? Somehow it was too elegant, you circumvented the question of whether Great Britain had the right to cede part of the territory allotted exclusively to the Israeli state. Not a word that the Zionist Fund and Edmond Rothschild acquired the Golan, as well as all the lands of present-day Israel under the future Jewish state, in accordance with the mandate of the LN. Moreover, you are aware that not only the Golan stole from Israel contrary to the decision of the LN on the formation of Israel, but also the territory of all of Jordan today. And Hashimite Abdullah, the great-grandfather of the current king, was exported from Jordan from the SA, where he was gnawed by the Saudis.
            And this is for general development. The same mandate. A la naturel.

            British Mandate for Palestine
            Initially, the territory of the mandate included land on both sides of the Jordan River. According to the terms of the mandate, England pledged [5]:
            “Article 2: ... to create such political, administrative and economic conditions that will ensure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine.
            “Article 5: ... no part of the territory of Palestine may be ceded, leased or placed under the control of a foreign power.
            “Article 6: ... to promote Jewish immigration and to encourage the dense settlement of lands by Jews, including state and empty lands that are not necessary for public needs. ...
            “Article 7: ... facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who choose Palestine as their place of permanent residence.”
            With Zionist greetings!
            1. andj61
              andj61 12 October 2017 14: 10 New
              +8
              Quote: Rogue1812
              With Zionist greetings!

              And where is it - I mean the mandate of the League of Nations - about the creation of a Jewish state?
              The League of Nations welcomed the resettlement of Jews in Palestine - this is so, the Rothschilds acquired land from private individuals, including in the Golan - this is so. That's just the question of creating the State of Israel did not go.
              Quote: Rogue1812
              With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, the original Israeli territory allocated specifically to Israel by the League of Nations, whose decisions were recognized by the UN as its successor. Congratulations, Mr. liar.

              There is no truth in this phrase of yours! The territory of the Golan can be considered to be originally Israeli territory in exactly the same way as the originally Phoenician, Egyptian, Roman, Byzantine, Persian, Arab. Jews lived there from the moment the Jews were formed, that is, the Semitic population perceived the Jewish religion (although the current religion is very little like the one that was 3500 years ago; for those ancient, the current would be sectarians). In the same way, Arabs lived there (exactly the same Semitic people, you are close relatives) and a bunch of newcomers - either conquerors or just visitors.
              Next - the League of Nations to Israel, as I mentioned, did not single out anything, even there was no talk of creating a Jewish state. That is why Britain was extremely negative about Jewish immigrants - they were opposed to the decisions of the League of Nations to create their own state, and not to live together with the Arabs in Palestine. That is why Britain, and France, brought in a large number of Arabs from Africa - Sudan, Egypt, Algeria - it seems to be for work, but in fact, in order to have an overwhelming number of Arabs in Palestine. Since then, the number of Sunni Arabs has significantly increased in BV. That is why Britain - already contrary to the decisions of the League, created the Emirate of Transjordan as part of mandated Palestine, which was granted acceleration in May 1946 as an independent kingdom.
              So in your extremely short phrase the untruth is full!
              And the UN is difficult to call the successor to the League of Nations - this is a completely different organization. The UN is a logical, but not official, continuation of the League of Nations hi
              And here, by the way, is the pre-war flag of the mandated territory of Palestine. Doesn’t resemble anything? wink
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 13: 09 New
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          Vagrant1812 Today, 10:45 ↑ New
          With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, native Israeli territory allocated to Israel League of Nations
          Themselves in their lies are confused ... laughing The terrorist state of Israel is only 69 years old and has never had any “original” territories! The League of Nations ceased to exist in 1946, two years before the creation of Israel. It would be better to be silent than to expose your lies and mediocrity to the public ... fool belay laughing
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 12 October 2017 15: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Terrorist State of Israel

            The "quilted jacket" of Iranian propaganda colleagues appeared. Looks like the mullahs pay well. laughing
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 16: 47 New
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              And Us Today, 15: 47 ↑
              The "quilted jacket" of Iranian propaganda colleagues appeared.
              I did not understand the essence of this phrase, do you even want to tell her ?! request But in fact I’m not just a “padded jacket”, I’m also a hopeless “scoop”, if that ...! laughing
              Looks like the mullahs pay well. laughing
              Tell me where the money is given out ?! belay And then I still can’t get honestly earned ... crying
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 12 October 2017 21: 46 New
                0
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Tell me where the money is given out ?!

                There is a user nicknamed "padded jacket", he knows where they give out. laughing
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 21: 54 New
                  +3
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  There is a user nicknamed "padded jacket", he knows where they give out.

                  And exactly give out? I would buy.
            2. badens1111
              badens1111 12 October 2017 19: 54 New
              +3
              Quote: And Us Rat
              The "quilted jacket" of Iranian propaganda colleagues appeared. Looks like the mullahs pay well.

              The question is not this, but the fact that your rabbis are not preparing you well, you are a lot to lie, you are pouring slop on strangers, but you are told,
              Quote:
              Mostly you yourself are to blame for the negative attitude towards yourself! So there’s nothing to blame for what they have sown, then reap!
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 12 October 2017 21: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: badens1111

                .... but you are told,
                Quote:
                Mostly you yourself are to blame for the negative attitude towards yourself! So there’s nothing to blame for what they have sown, then reap!

                So we found the roots of the "worldwide" Russophobia. fellow
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 12 October 2017 21: 46 New
            +5
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            The terrorist state of Israel is only 69 years old

            The younger the state, the more ancient history it writes to itself. Well, the ancient Jews understand only ykry.
            I wonder why the word "ykry" system redirects to "Ukrainians"? After all, it is written in their textbooks.
    2. zenion
      zenion 12 October 2017 12: 59 New
      +2
      ISIS posed a threat to Israel at the request of Israel. Here we are piercing and cutting you off, but we will not come, the army of Israel is very strong. When I read such statements, and not just me, it becomes sad that the rulers intimidate the Jewish people
  4. avros
    avros 12 October 2017 07: 57 New
    +5
    “For example, IS’s regular terrorist actions against neighboring states contribute to maintaining the presence of superpowers in the region, and a clash of interests of the latter automatically distracts the attention of Syria, Iran and Shiite organizations from Israel. In other words, on the bones of the massively destroyed neighboring nations, Israel, according to Mr. Halevi, must prosper! " We translate the analyst into the Russian language of the author: Evgeny Damantsev. Israel must allow different terrorists to kill Jews, so that they do not kill each other.
    1. Kurasava
      Kurasava 12 October 2017 09: 51 New
      +9
      No, he should give the SAA, Assad and the videoconferencing calmly, without kicks from under the silence, to restore order in Syria and there will be peace and quiet again on the border with the Gollans.
  5. Kurasava
    Kurasava 12 October 2017 08: 17 New
    +5
    It is highly doubtful that ours will get involved in a new war with Hazbullah. This is fraught with very serious losses in all areas, especially in the economic. For 11 years, Hezbollah has become even stronger and more experienced 2006 seem easy walk. So they will, as always, fly, bomb in some places, maybe artillery strikes, where it will be expedient and where they get it, treat nits (again the same rake) from the SSA and others like them. But somehow they cannot radically influence the situation. Having to reconcile, Assad won.
    1. Velizariy
      Velizariy 12 October 2017 09: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Kurasava
      Assad won

      It will be more accurate and more correct: Assad was led to victory, one might say they reached the ears.
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 12 October 2017 09: 44 New
        +1
        Don't mind 50% good
        1. Velizariy
          Velizariy 12 October 2017 09: 45 New
          +4
          Yes, what is there 50%)) All 95%)))
          1. Kurasava
            Kurasava 12 October 2017 09: 48 New
            +1
            SW. Camarade Well, I can’t agree with you. Want to discuss? With interest (without sarcasm) I read your arguments. Spread it out. good
            1. Velizariy
              Velizariy 12 October 2017 09: 53 New
              +2
              The territory controlled by Assad before the intervention of Russia somewhere, as a keepsake, -10-15%
              The supply of weapons, ammunition, equipment, building materials from Russia is simply huge.
              The participation of Iran, the same Hezbollah and other police different.
              The participation of Russian aviation and other parts directly and the planning of all major operations.
              What did the Syrian army, except that it ceased to be, independently ???
              The Alavites and Assad would be crushed in the coming months ... If not for ...)
              1. Kurasava
                Kurasava 12 October 2017 14: 57 New
                +2
                Damn, the damned "fascists" chopped off, in the most interesting place, again our hackers worked))) You know it's hard to disagree with you. If not ....... then they would crush it right. Without the videoconferencing, there would be cranks.
                Hezbollah is 5 to 7 thousand. Iranians at various estimates up to a maximum of 30 thousand. but highly doubtful. But let's say. CAA is at least 50, without them, there would also be nothing on earth. All the same, they dragged the main fights on the earth. So well, no matter how not 000%, as you allocated to them initially)))
                1. Velizariy
                  Velizariy 12 October 2017 16: 10 New
                  0
                  I’m not saying that the Syrians didn’t fight, they fought and are fighting, but there were no resources, no money, no human reserve, no equipment ... moreover, competent leadership of what remained of the army. Therefore, there would be at least 500 thousand, there would be no result. They are not something that would not be provided; they would not even be able to give them water to drink.
              2. passerby5
                passerby5 12 October 2017 16: 08 New
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                but I’ll add to your words: a friend who visited there in the first row told how they practically kicked them into the attack. we come and says they have a camcorder on a pole. she looks behind the fence (well, or blockage). they play cards. watch this online video. and periodically put the machine. pop somewhere hz ... like this they fought to ours
    2. avt
      avt 12 October 2017 10: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Kurasava
      Having to reconcile, Assad won.

      Well, somehow
      When everyone dies. Only then will the big game end. - Rudyard Kipling.
      With regards
      Quote: Kurasava
      This is fraught with very serious losses in all areas, especially in the economic. For 11 years, Hezbollah has become even stronger and more experienced 2006 seem easy walk.

      What is the point of the action? Lebanon to Gollanam to join? If it’s really trampled on, it’s paranoia from lurking itself over by Iran. For the time being, Israel plays Kurds quite well and it should be noted that it’s pretty successful. And merging all the consequences of this game on the US, which screwed up in full. Well, Israel will launder the USA, substituting? Not. Of course he can try .... but then what kind of money should there be in order to get into such a whore with a trezvo mind.bully
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 12 October 2017 15: 03 New
        0
        I’m saying that they don’t trample, it’s stupid and it will be very painful. And they will bite Hezbollah, like .... better than nothing.
    3. Viktor777
      Viktor777 12 October 2017 10: 33 New
      +4
      "that ours will get involved in a new war with Hazbullah" - and yours is the Zahal or the Bundeswehr (the Wehrmacht almost said)? The Russian Federation did not seem to intend to get involved in this.
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 12 October 2017 15: 05 New
        +4
        laughing here I mean the IDF and you can safely call the Fritz Wehrmacht, the mentality has not changed, they just don’t let them speak loudly. drinks
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 12 October 2017 15: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: Kurasava
          I mean IDF

          And what do you have to do with AOI, a German immigrant? laughing
          1. Kurasava
            Kurasava 12 October 2017 19: 04 New
            +1
            Envy kapara on you is a bad quality. She Yamutu Akanim tongue . Unlike you, I served a full emergency in the elite combat unit of the IDF. But I remember you even did not take a jopnik? lol
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 12 October 2017 21: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Kurasava
              Unlike you, I served a full emergency in the elite combat unit of the IDF.

              In which? Balabol. What part? What is a makhzor? From the couch in Germany you "served".
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 12 October 2017 23: 55 New
                +1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Quote: Kurasava
                Unlike you, I served a full emergency in the elite combat unit of the IDF.

                In which? Balabol. What part? What is a makhzor? From the couch in Germany you "served".

                Leave him alone. This storyteller cannot read two words in Hebrew.
                1. Kurasava
                  Kurasava 13 October 2017 09: 31 New
                  +3
                  Oh, another STAR PER. laughing Does the Cabinet want me and I can arrange a personal meeting with you? Well, with all this honest people, I offer you a personal meeting under a video recording, we’ll meet, talk, make sure that I’m telling the truth. And publish? Do you agree? Or is it for the driver of the D-9 tractor below his dignity? negative
              2. Kurasava
                Kurasava 13 October 2017 09: 26 New
                +3
                I served in the Special Forces Brigade of the Airborne Forces Brigade (Parsar Tsanhanim) The year of conscription was 02-05. Do not believe me? I suggest you meet with me personally and with my colleagues who will confirm my words and at the same time I will show you my military card (teudat lohem). And just look at yours, I already offered a personal meeting to the Professor, but he delicately refused.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 13 October 2017 12: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kurasava
                  I suggest you meet with me personally and with my colleagues

                  From Bethel or from Hezbollah?
                  Quote: Kurasava
                  and at the same time I will show you my military ID

                  Spread, for this you do not need to go anywhere.
                  From you provocateur and stand for a kilometer pulls. negative
    4. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 12 October 2017 10: 49 New
      +2
      The policy of an ostrich hiding its head in the sand took place from 1933 to 1939. The apotheosis was remembered "Munich conspiracy." And how it all ended for humanity is also memorable. Mossad will not happen again! How would you not want this from the banks of the Rhine.
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 12 October 2017 15: 06 New
        +2
        Kpara to you, what are you talking about? Drink some water.
    5. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 12 October 2017 15: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Kurasava
      that ours get involved in a new war

      Yours, is this the Bundeswehr? wassat
      Quote: Kurasava
      2006 seems like an easy walk

      Katz offers to surrender? laughing
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 12 October 2017 19: 06 New
        +2
        Here. Israel and our Israeli army. Katz, it can be done if he wishes.
      2. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 12 October 2017 21: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Kurasava
        Here. Israel and our Israeli army.

        You are not ours, and the army is not yours. Do not be greased. negative
        1. Kurasava
          Kurasava 13 October 2017 09: 27 New
          +2
          It’s true, the elderly Jopniks are not my comrades. And the Israeli army is definitely not YOUR army, in order to assert this, it is necessary to serve in it, but this is not about you.
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 13 October 2017 13: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Kurasava
            It’s true, the elderly Jopniks are not my comrades. And the Israeli army is definitely not YOUR army, in order to assert this, it is necessary to serve in it, but this is not about you.

            Whose will you be, defector provocateur? no
  6. mac789
    mac789 12 October 2017 09: 49 New
    +1
    The Jedi set out on the warpath! Oh, where are you the Lord of the Sith!?! Rise the Darkest !!! laughing laughing laughing
  7. vearey
    vearey 12 October 2017 09: 57 New
    +2
    But the Iranians were very scared if they ordered such an article.
    Assad won
    Assad won, Syria lost.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 12 October 2017 13: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: vearey
      Iranians were scared if they ordered such an article.

      Damantsev ?! belay Well, okay, you are excusable, you are here recently. Although, some "suitcases" claim that even Vatnik writes for Iran. wassat In a word, relax - this is only the subjective opinion of one person.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 October 2017 14: 05 New
        +2
        I would advise Damantsev and the quilted jacket not to use the Kaspersky program. And then they burn the Iranian counterintelligence.
    2. Kurasava
      Kurasava 12 October 2017 15: 09 New
      +5
      You are mistaken, just the same with Syria and the Russian Federation, and most importantly, Syria won the nose and then wiped it off with all sorts of small-birttes, as if they didn’t want it differently lol
      1. vearey
        vearey 12 October 2017 18: 55 New
        +1
        Russia and Assad Syria won
        Then I look, the country is blooming, people are enjoying life. You can certainly have an opinion, but in your case, the opinion has you.
        1. Kurasava
          Kurasava 12 October 2017 19: 13 New
          +5
          Then I look, the country is blooming, people are enjoying life. You can certainly have an opinion, but in your case, the opinion has you.
          - until the facts have you. Assad won, it is a fact. This is for you, oh how "popol" is also a fact. The comment is surprisingly stupid, although it is so because there is nothing to say. Show me at least one country that would flourish during an armed conflict, especially a civil one. It was not Assad who started the war, but he would finish it. As if some home-grown “adherents of democracy” did not want the “handshake” An-Nusra or the no less “handshake” ISIS to win. negative
          1. vearey
            vearey 12 October 2017 19: 20 New
            +1
            Have forgotten how to read? i wrote
            Assad won, Syria lost.
            I understand that your heart hurts for Assad, but the country is ruined and it has no future. Hooray comrades.
            1. Kurasava
              Kurasava 12 October 2017 19: 25 New
              +1
              Have forgotten how to read? I wrote
              You are mistaken, just the same with Syria and the Russian Federation won Assad
              it was in 2014 that her future was just very vague. And now everything is more or less clear. good
              1. vearey
                vearey 12 October 2017 19: 30 New
                +2
                everything is more or less clear.
                It’s clear that they lied. Which of course is not surprising. It is clear that the country is destroyed, but the main thing for you is that cutie Assad won. Will you take the same position in Russia?
                1. Kurasava
                  Kurasava 12 October 2017 19: 35 New
                  +3
                  the main thing is that cutie Assad won.
                  - judging by your words, anyone can win, for example ISIS or An-Nusra, but just not Assad, very democratic. Notably your burned laughing
                  1. vearey
                    vearey 12 October 2017 19: 43 New
                    +1
                    judging by your words, anyone can win, for example ISIS or An-Nusra, but just not Assad, very democratic
                    Did I write this? So now you show how your logic works. It’s not clear to me just why you didn’t reunite with cutie Assad, otherwise you should do it in kammenty, not toss the bags.
                    1. Kurasava
                      Kurasava 12 October 2017 20: 00 New
                      +4
                      in this war, the alternative to Assad was either Nusra or ISIS, if you think that Syria lost with Assad, then it is logical to assume that she would win with Nusra and ISIS.
                      It’s not clear to me why you didn’t reunite with cutie Assad,
                      - a classic of the genre, when the arguments end, although they weren’t here ......... go to the GARDEN SIR, everything in the GARDEN yes
                      1. vearey
                        vearey 12 October 2017 20: 09 New
                        +1
                        go to the GARDEN SIR
                        I can’t, you are there. bully
            2. Lex.
              Lex. 14 October 2017 17: 14 New
              0
              The ruin, yes, but the winners are not judged in Syria a lot of oil and a lot of gas, I think to rebuild if they do not interfere
  8. ioann1
    ioann1 12 October 2017 10: 26 New
    +1
    For Russia, the war in Syria is what if Israel is stealthily hitting parts of the Syrian army, and our Army does not respond to these killings, and if it does not answer, what is it doing there? ! Is it not in order to maintain the same IDF ...?
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 12 October 2017 11: 07 New
      +2
      But this is interesting, you know. Support of the IDF by Russia as a goal of participation in the Syrian conflict. So to speak, "in heaven we flew alone ...."
  9. Dmitry Kuzhilney
    Dmitry Kuzhilney 12 October 2017 10: 32 New
    +4
    This is not the first time that there is a desire to unsubscribe from a resource.
    Some "analysts" just do not read.
  10. Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 12 October 2017 11: 04 New
    +4
    Quote: vearey
    But the Iranians were very scared if they ordered such an article.
    Assad won
    Assad won, Syria lost.

    The publication, and the reaction on the site are very controversial. The author suggests the expansion of Turkish-American military intervention in Syria. There is not a word in the comments about this. Understood ..... Well Turkey is a faithful ally of the Russian Federation.
    At the same time, the author did not even close indicate his vision of the resolution of the situation by Israel. It just cuts off the shoulder about "tricky and advanced brains", some clever pretexts, etc. And what is Israel to do when Iran, its Hezbollah branch, ISIS, and other terrorists are a real threat to the Jewish state, not a word about it. After all, do not take it as a basis: do you agree ....
    Russia did not agree with either Dudaev or Saakashvili. One was banged without ceremony, the other was allowed to go on tour around the world as a clown. Some kind of double standards. However, Israel, Glory to God, is that cat that walks on its own. And does not need the advice of Moscow, Washington, Kurosawa, or anyone else. Israel has no eternal friends and eternal enemies; Israel has permanent interests.
    1. aiden
      aiden 13 October 2017 02: 59 New
      +2
      But what the hell are moderate frostbites treat and supply? And then this moderate abomination is transformed into IG. Or is this a normal occurrence in Israel? I’m not myself ### b - you won’t live. Just do not write that this is all untrue. There have already been many facts cited proving your cooperation.
      And secondly, are you all so “friendly” towards the Russian Federation so that if you are thrown by your ally, they immediately rush into the arms of the Russian Federation?
  11. Starik72
    Starik72 12 October 2017 11: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Rogue1812
    I would like to clarify: what territories Israel "snatched from all neighbors" - Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia? With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, the original Israeli territory allocated specifically to Israel by the League of Nations, whose decisions were recognized by the UN as its successor. Congratulations, Mr. liar.
    1. Starik72
      Starik72 12 October 2017 11: 27 New
      +6
      Tramp. And how to compare the 14 thousand square kilometers allocated by the UN decision with the current occupation of 28 thousand square kilometers by Israel. So where did Israel get the extra 14 thousand square kilometers from the border territories, and they appeared in the form of capture of these territories. So do not lie the tramp !!!
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    1. askme
      askme 12 October 2017 12: 11 New
      +5
      Of course. The author of this opus is just hysterical. Here on the forum there are a lot of tantrums that, at the first difficulties of the RF Armed Forces in Syria, and elsewhere, even under external pressure, begin to become hysterical. And they are supported in this by a huge number of trolls from NATO cyber troops here, under the nicknames of different countries. So the hate of the so-called "Communist patriots" against the Russian government in difficult times. Because of it, such people tend to get hysterical without seeing support in it (and this is natural, since it is impossible to have support in those you hate). From the side, these people look and behave as accomplices of the West, who gladly heats up such comrades in various ways, they have only dreams in fact .... It is a pity that such "patriots" will come to themselves at the height of a real war that they themselves and they stimulated with their cries, their alarmism, stimulating enemies to attack Russia ...
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 12 October 2017 16: 02 New
        +1
        I can imagine how they would peck at me - say that to me. laughing But ... right, a thousand devils! fellow
  13. askme
    askme 12 October 2017 12: 04 New
    +5
    This is a very stupid analysis. The Turks in Idlib act together, and not instead of the military police of the Russian Federation. Violation of this agreement will lead to a military clash with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, because the MTR of the Russian Federation operates within the SAA throughout Syria. And Erdogan clearly showed that he was not going to fight with Russia. Assuming otherwise is unfounded. Same thing with the Yankees. The main thesis about the Israeli operation in Syria is generally nonsense, based on nothing. Israel acts differently in Syria. Initially ...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 12 October 2017 16: 02 New
      +1
      Fiercely plus. yes
  14. Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 12 October 2017 12: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Starik72
    Tramp. And how to compare the 14 thousand square kilometers allocated by the UN decision with the current occupation of 28 thousand square kilometers by Israel. So where did Israel get the extra 14 thousand square kilometers from the border territories, and they appeared in the form of capture of these territories. So do not lie the tramp !!!

    You (you), taught to read in Russian?
    The comment says, literally, “Israel snatched from all neighbors. "Zenki is a soldier-soldier. None of the neighbors of Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Israel have seized half a centimeter of land. This was discussed. So you are not only a primitive liar, but no less primitive demagogue . Like a tummy, a hippo?
    1. aiden
      aiden 13 October 2017 03: 04 New
      +1
      Why isn’t Israel a NATO? They would have already knocked out a membership card, and would have lived peacefully. The roof would be. Although you get away with it anyway
  15. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 12 October 2017 12: 11 New
    +2
    Remember the end of World War II? Eaters with Spoons opened a second front when they saw the victory of the Soviet Army on their snotty nose! The same thing is happening now. As there were no real friends with Russia, no! Only two-faced and three personal "partners", are they ?! Damn you all. God is not a fryer, he sees everything and will reward everyone according to his merits!
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 12 October 2017 16: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: pleschakovai
      Eaters with Spoons opened a second front when they saw the victory of the Soviet Army on their snotty nose!

      And the opening of the "Japanese" front in 1945, also falls into this category? wink Or will double standards come into play now? fellow
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 13 October 2017 01: 50 New
        +6
        The Americans insisted on the operations of the USSR against Japan. The rulers of the USSR of Russia have a quality of compliance with their obligations. Well, the second - by the right of the winners.
      2. Stiletto_711
        Stiletto_711 15 October 2017 20: 48 New
        +3
        And the opening of the "Japanese" front in 1945, also falls into this category?

        That's a good question, let's think what
        The number for 1945 of the Kwantung group of forces of the Japanese Imperial Army, with which the USSR fought: 1 million 300 thousand people.
        For comparison, the number of Japanese forces in the battle of Okinawa in the same 1945: the 32nd Army - 67 thousand people, the local militia - 39 thousand people.
        Further, the area of ​​Okinawa is 1207 km², and the approximate area of ​​the theater of operations during the Soviet operation in the Far East is 1 km²
        At the same time, the battle for Okinawa lasted 82 days and is estimated by the Americans as one of the most stubborn and bloody operations of the United States during the Second World War. Now suppose that the USSR did not enter the war with Japan, how long would it take for the Allied forces to defeat the Japanese army in China? By the Olympics, 80 would probably be controlled fellow
        So such "eaters with spoons" as the Red Army in this case, as they say - God forbid everyone!
        And you dear, collect your army and go to ... a library or something what Read a couple of books, instead of carrying nonsense on the Internet hi
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 October 2017 00: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: pleschakovai
      Remember the end of World War II? Eaters with Spoons opened a second front when they saw the victory of the Soviet Army on their snotty nose! The same thing is happening now. As there were no real friends with Russia, no! Only two-faced and three personal "partners", are they ?! Damn you all. God is not a fryer, he sees everything and will reward everyone according to his merits!

      Oh how. And against whom did the Italian army and the German expeditionary force in St. Africa fight? Against whom were 60% of the German Air Force opposed in Western Europe? Why were huge funds spent on the Navy? Against whom, in the midst of the Battle of Kursk, was the SS tank corps deployed from the Eastern Front? Against whom in the 1943 year was the German front created in Italy?
  16. Dead duck
    Dead duck 12 October 2017 12: 23 New
    +9
    but also their own brainchild - the “Golan Knights”, as well as the IS militants, whose enclave to this day has safely “lived-lived” in the Golan in the region of Abdin and Jamlakh

    lie to you fse! ... fakenews! ... this cannot be, the holy people were slandered.
    1. SMP
      SMP 12 October 2017 14: 14 New
      0
      this cannot be, the holy people were slandered.


      good drinks


      Krylov's fable Cuckoo and cock
      ........
      Why, without fear of sin,
      The cuckoo praises the Rooster ...
      For praising the Cuckoo.
      laughing
  17. padded jacket
    padded jacket 12 October 2017 12: 46 New
    +7
    I am simply amazed at people who still think that Israel is some kind of ally or even a friend of Russia.
    Understand, finally, Israel is our enemy as well as the United States, and if we forget about caution we turn our backs on him, he will stab a knife in our back without hesitation.
    "Suffers" from Israel and the entire region of the Middle East where the Tel Aviv regime incites endless wars and conflicts thus creating for itself a "breeding ground" in which it is convenient for him to increase in size by taking away pieces of his neighbors' territory and make "blood money" and only Thanks to popular patriotic movements like Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, not the whole region has plunged into the abyss of wars provoked by Israel.
    Therefore, we must do our best to support Hezbollah, as opposed to the aggressive and unpredictable regime of Tel Aviv, this faithful U.S. satellite in the Middle East, otherwise the fanatical bandits from ISIS or other terrorist groups "grown and armed" with these regimes will reach us directly.
    1. SMP
      SMP 12 October 2017 14: 47 New
      +6
      I am simply amazed at people who still think that Israel is some kind of ally or even a friend of Russia.
      Understand, finally, Israel is our enemy as well as the United States, and if we forget about caution we turn our backs on him, he will stab a knife in our back without hesitation.


      Fact 100%
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 12 October 2017 16: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: SMP
        Fact 100%

        However, in fact, until now it has been exactly the opposite, of course, not a “knife in the back”, but you haven’t missed the chance to stealth Israel secretly, especially in the international arena.
        How to explain it? wink
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 12 October 2017 16: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: quilted jacket
      convenient to grow in size

      Then where are the results? Judging by your agitation, we should have already been the size of half a galaxy. wassat
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 12 October 2017 19: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Then where are the results? Judging by your agitation, we should have already been the size of half a galaxy.

        So all sane people and movements like patriots from the national liberation movements of Hamas and Hezbollah do not allow you to increase otherwise you would have already achieved your dream lol
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        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 12 October 2017 21: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          So you are not allowed to increase

          Then your accusations of "land grabbing" are baseless, since they don’t give, right? wink
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 13 October 2017 18: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Then your accusations of "land grabbing" are baseless, since they don’t give, right?

            Well, part of it, you managed to capture occupying Arab Palestine, but then they will not expand further.
  18. zenion
    zenion 12 October 2017 12: 56 New
    +3
    So the creators of the Basmachi decided that it was time for them to do this business themselves. The Basmachis do not justify the high confidence of the rabbanut. We'll have to go on our own with God's help.
  19. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 13: 21 New
    +2
    On September 30, 1985, Hezbollah members captured and stopped two cars near the USSR Embassy in Beirut. In one, there were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other, KGB residency officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov
    Arkady Katkov was killed. He led the assassination of Imad Mugniya, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mugniya not only gave the order to execute Katkov, but also personally shot him)
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 October 2017 13: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: Ken71
      On September 30, 1985, Hezbollah members captured and stopped two cars near the USSR Embassy in Beirut. In one, there were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other, KGB residency officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov
      Arkady Katkov was killed. He led the assassination of Imad Mugniya, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mugniya not only gave the order to execute Katkov, but also personally shot him)

      How are you Israeli Jews with this "nonsense" already tired, replace your training manuals at last ..
      Our diplomats were killed by militants from an unknown Palestinian group and then, frightened of what they had done, they handed over the surviving Hezbollah then Hezbollah handed them over to ours.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 October 2017 14: 27 New
        +3
        You and the Iranians seemed smarter to me. But in order to substitute himself.
      2. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 14: 43 New
        +4
        This is actually written on Wikipedia. And to push the unknown well. Because what question is hanging in the air.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 12 October 2017 14: 57 New
          +7
          Quote: Ken71
          This is actually written on Wikipedia.

          Well yeah wikipedia is authority lol
          In general, if you watched the video, then there the real participant tells about the events and he seems to know better than Wikipedia.
          Quote: Ken71
          And to push the unknown well. Because what question is hanging in the air.

          Well, yes, people sincerely imagined that they were God's chosen story of our diplomat about how and what actually happened, of course causes "distrust" and you will say and believe that Hezbollah is to blame but at the same time for some reason people like you "forbid" to believe others that Israel is "center for controlling gangster fanatics" in the BV region and maybe not only in the BV.
          Strange as that smile
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 12 October 2017 15: 07 New
            +2
            And he is definitely real. And on Wikipedia, where are the data from. Probably from the same real or even more real.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 12 October 2017 15: 11 New
              +5
              Quote: Ken71
              And on Wikipedia, where are the data from.

              Where is it from there? lol
              Straight from Mossad or something smile Maybe it was on the orders of Israeli Jews that our diplomats were abducted by the way. A very real situation. The Israelis strongly hated the USSR for its help to Arab countries so that they could organize the abduction and then murder of our diplomat.
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                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 12 October 2017 21: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: D0001
                  Western colleagues and Israel will have cleaner methods.

                  Yeah! September 11 in the United States will be remembered for a long time. hi
  20. cedar
    cedar 12 October 2017 14: 04 New
    +2
    That everything will be a bunch, everything is calculated, everyone is warned ...
    The chocolate bunny knows in advance that one cannot get away from Armageddon, since the great plans, the great construction, the great temple are burning with a blue flame in time ... It is time ...
    .
    1. vearey
      vearey 12 October 2017 18: 59 New
      +1
      from Armageddon not get out
      As a result, everyone will be defeated, no matter from Hezbollah or from Iran. And who will be saved, according to this scenario, remember?
  21. Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 12 October 2017 14: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Vagrant1812 Today, 10:45 ↑ New
    With regards to Syria. 800 square kilometers of the Golan, native Israeli territory allocated to Israel League of Nations
    Themselves in their lies are confused ... laughing The terrorist state of Israel is only 69 years old and has never had any “original” territories! The League of Nations ceased to exist in 1946, two years before the creation of Israel. It would be better to be silent than to expose your lies and mediocrity to the public ... fool belay laughing

    Just don't be nervous, madame. ” Perhaps the very word "mandate" has served as a catalyst for your such violent reaction. Relax. Here, a little for your educational program. The mandate for Palestine is not as terrible as you are painting.
    The Mandate for the Palestine of the League of Nations and the British Mandate are two different documents. The first sets out the conditions for creating a Jewish national home in Palestine. The second document is an order from Great Britain to fulfill the conditions of the Mandate of the League of Nations. After the dissolution of the League of Nations in 1946, the British Mandate ceased to exist. However, the mandate of the League of Nations on Palestine has not been canceled.

    The mandate for Palestine consists of the Preamble and 28 articles.

    The Preamble says that the Allied Powers agreed that they are “responsible for putting into effect the declaration of His Majesty’s Government of November 2, 1917 (Balfour-GG declaration) ... in favor of creating a national center of the Jewish people in Palestine” and recognized "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and the basis for the restoration of its national focus in this country."

    Article 2 of the Mandate assigns to the Mandator, i.e. Great Britain, “responsibility for creating political, administrative and economic conditions in the country, ensuring the emergence of a Jewish national center, as provided for in the Preamble, and for the development of self-government institutions, as well as for the protection of civil and religious rights of all residents of Palestine, regardless of race and religion” . Thus, political rights in the form of self-government are granted to the Jews of Palestine. Arabs' political rights to self-determination were guaranteed in the Mandates for Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. The latter are fundamentally different from the Mandate for Palestine. They obligate the mandators to take measures to “promote the progressive development of Syria and Lebanon (and later Iraq - GG) as independent states.
    1. andj61
      andj61 12 October 2017 14: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Rogue1812
      Just don't be nervous, madame. ” Perhaps the very word "mandate" has served as a catalyst for your such violent reaction. Relax. Here, a little for your educational program. The mandate for Palestine is not as terrible as you are painting.

      Neither the British mandate nor the mandate of the League of Nations on Palestine envisaged the creation of a Jewish state, but only a “Jewish national home in Palestine” or “a national center of the Jewish people.” And Britain worked hard to prevent the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Emirate Transiordania quickly, until the question of Palestine was brought up for discussion at the UN, independence was granted in May 1946. A year later, on November 29, 1947, the UN adopted a plan for partition of Palestine (UN GA Resolution No. 181), but without taking into account Transordania. That’s why all the Jews of the world must constantly say a great human “thank you” to Great Britain! bully
      1. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 12 October 2017 17: 56 New
        +2
        The purpose of the Balfour declaration was to create the State of Israel. In its development and for implementation, a conference on Palestine was held in San Remo, the corresponding mandates were written out, the borders of the future state were outlined, the lands were bought out by the Jews, including the Golan. The fact that then the British turned on the reverse gear does not change matters. The train left. Israel at the time of its reconstruction was a de facto full-fledged state: with its state institutions, law enforcement agencies, cities, and legislation. In contrast to the ghostly Arab state, which did not even have a name, not to mention the rest of the attributes of statehood. So the terminology that you are trying to grasp like a drowning man in a straw has absolutely no value. What is the difference, Israel was called in the Balfour declaration a "national home", in mandates a "national hearth" if, in fact, at an accelerated pace since 1895, Jewish statehood was formed in Jewish territories, I note. 4000 years of Jewish statehood and a non-stop Jewish presence on Eretz Israel for another two thousand years are objective facts. Arabs appeared on these lands only 1500 years ago, as invaders. But they failed to capture anything. Palestine was ruled by crusaders, Ottomans, the British, but not the Arabs. They ruined the territory so that the Jews are still rebuilding their country. However, you can adopt the Vatnik methodology. He once wrote: Arabs ALWAYS lived in this territory. The argument is deadly. The word is always capitalized. And an exclamation mark is set. I forgot the truth, filed, paint the letters in the colors of Islam. But it is ahead.
        1. andj61
          andj61 12 October 2017 20: 16 New
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          Semitic peoples have always lived on this earth. Some of them converted to Judaism and became Jews, some converted to Christianity, and some converted to Islam. Further, these religions were spread all over the world. Judaism, at least now, does not imply proselytism, therefore there are only 15 million Jews. Although, apparently, there had previously been proselytism, otherwise the Khazars (Turks!) And Mountain Jews would have accepted Judaism? Christianity and Islam are now the most popular religions.
          To say that these lands, according to the results of the FDA, were intended for the creation of Israel - it means to invent something - nowhere in the documents is there anything like that. The Rothschilds hoped to resettle the Jewish poor there, especially the poor, carried away by the socialist idea, and only the leaders of that poor, such as Jabotinsky and his ilk, had plans to create a state.
          Well done - and thank God - well done. Just do not insist that the League of Nations was going to create Israel - neither she, nor Britain, nor France needed it at all.
          The state of Israel was created thanks to the perseverance of the Jews in Palestine and contrary to the wishes of the actual stewards of these territories. Is it still possible to mention that the USSR and the USA at that time favorably reacted to this, but did not render real help.
          1. Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 12 October 2017 20: 59 New
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            Somewhere like that. I agree. Jews, Israel created themselves: perseverance, bayonet and butt. In the desert and in malaria swamps. According to the Khazars, it is debatable .. Among the Khazars, Judaism only accepted to know, that is, a small stratum of the population. Jews, as such, never had proselytism. Judaism is a closed religion, in addition, a religion involving one hundred percent literacy. Mountain Jews, Subbotniks, Falashi, a handful of Khazar nobility. That's all meager, scanty (ten to another thousand) sources, besides the Jews themselves - the Semites. History does not know the mass adoption of Judaism by other nations. The Jews were not like others and did not want to be like anyone else. And now they don’t want to. Tacitus also wrote about this. The latest research allows us to determine the genetic characteristics of each ethnic group. Jews are no exception. And please tell me, which of the other nations wanted to be humiliated and restricted, discriminated against, pogroms, massacres that fell to the Jews in Galut. Plus, the temptations of assimilation, which in the twentieth century was no less dangerous for the Jewish nation than the Black Hundreds of different countries and peoples. And in our time, the masses of those who wish, are in a hurry to cling to prosperous Israel, millions of Chinese and Indians are showing their commitment to Judaism, and those who are looking for nonexistent relatives in the Jewish line are the powers that be, for example, Hillary Clinton (she was exposed with shame). Famous actors accept Judaism, the same Van Damme, Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor. Have you heard anything about the Orthodox Jew Anastasia Michaeli, or the granddaughter of composer Scriabin, Trump's daughter? Take a look for general development. Vanya Urgant shouts to the whole world about his Jewishness, they do not believe him .... People are people. They’re looking for better places. You can’t imagine how many hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from the Russian Federation and Ukraine are currently working on the most unskilled jobs in Israel. Is this from love for us or something? It's just that here the minimum salary is -1200 dollars a month, the latest technology, everywhere and in everything. Here they go.
            And Israel, of course, was created by the Jews as a response to the oppression of the Jews. And Zionism resolved the Jewish question once and for all. In any case, the world has not heard anything since the creation of our small, prosperous state about Jewish refugees that other countries refused to accept. I didn’t hear anything about the Jews of Israel, and indeed the Jews, who compete with Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Armenians and others like them in Russia, or anywhere else on the planet. So Israel is almost 70 years old - normal flight.
            1. andj61
              andj61 16 October 2017 11: 31 New
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              Quote: Rogue1812
              According to the Khazars, it is debatable .. Among the Khazars, Judaism only accepted to know, that is, a small stratum of the population. Jews, as such, never had proselytism. Judaism is a closed religion, in addition, a religion involving one hundred percent literacy. Mountain Jews, Subbotniks, Falashi, a handful of Khazar nobility.

              Here it’s just not very debatable - proselytism was still there, but it is somewhat hushed up by the rabbinate. The Khazars - this is not just a bunch of nobles, and ALL know the vast empire, and not only: all the white Khazars and the entire top of the black Khazars. The opinion of L. Gumilyov that the Khazars accepted Judaism through the transfer to the harem of the Khazar nobility of the daughters of the Jews who escaped from Persia and through the subsequent upbringing of children in Judaism is certainly beautiful, but historically not confirmed: the transition of the entire top of the Khazars to Judaism took place almost instantly - in 40 -50 years old, and there were probably not only Jewish women in the harems, and there were plenty of children of other faiths. A fragment of the kaganate are also Karaites and Krymchaks, although they debated for a long time in Israel whether they were Jews or not. They have now decided what they are, but Orthodox Jews (“rabbis”) speak of Karaites as erring Jews. There is also historical evidence of a transition to non-Jewish Judaism. You mentioned subbotniks, and in Russian Orthodoxy at the turn of the 15-16s there was the so-called heresy of the Judaizers. The main thing in it was the desire to return to the original divine teaching. Heresy at the Councils of 1490 and 1504 they condemned, they even executed the most odious, but there is historical evidence that numerous followers of the heresy fled to Lithuania and joined the Jewish communities of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
              In China and India, we are not talking about millions who want to join Judaism, at best, tens of thousands of descendants of Jews in India and several thousand in China. Millions are more likely to recognize themselves as Jews, not in Asia, but in eastern Europe - Ukraine , Moldova, Romania, etc., and only for economic reasons. Famous actors defiantly accept Judaism, emphasizing more often that they are adherents of Kabbalism. That is, the main thing for them is secret knowledge contained in Kabbalah, and Judaism is only as something inalienable from Kabbalah. Yes, and it became fashionable to declare yourself a Kabbalist. hi
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  23. SMP
    SMP 12 October 2017 14: 25 New
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    The Jebusites were the pre-Jewish population of Judea, who at the end of the 1rd millennium BC. e. founded the city of Jerusalem [XNUMX]

    Joshua with illegal armed groups occupied the lands of Canaan and Jerusalem,
    or is he probably not a Jew?
    1. andj61
      andj61 12 October 2017 14: 49 New
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      Quote: SMP
      The Jebusites were the pre-Jewish population of Judea, who at the end of the 1rd millennium BC. e. founded the city of Jerusalem [XNUMX]

      Joshua with illegal armed groups occupied the lands of Canaan and Jerusalem,
      or is he probably not a Jew?

      Exactly, occupied! Only now he was a Jew! But the Canaanites were not - for which they paid. But they were Semites ... God at one time promised his faithful servant Abraham that he would give the land of Canaan into the possession of his descendants (Genesis 15:18). And gave it away! And there, in Canaan, in what is now Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, and even the under-created state of Palestine, its descendants live almost exclusively, no matter how they call their ancestor - Abraham, as Jews, or Ibrahim, as Arabs ... bully hi
  24. shans2
    shans2 12 October 2017 14: 43 New
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    I recalled the phrase of a generous Ukrainian Zoryan Shkiryak: “They understand and calm down” (c)
    Shaking the sluggish pipiska of the former US hegemon is all that Israel can at the moment). And do terrorist attacks and provocations. There is no greater military opportunity.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 12 October 2017 14: 52 New
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      You are waiting for provocations in response to insults.
      Boasted when it is. And now the IDF is raising a huge problem for both Assad and the Russian army. You better be friends with us.
  25. Tektor
    Tektor 12 October 2017 16: 11 New
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    It seems to me extremely urgent to raise the question of what will we do in the event of an Israeli attack on Hezbollah and the SAA? A lot will depend on the answer to it. I’m afraid that if our allies suck us in, we won’t be able to stand aside, and that's when we will have to completely crush the Israeli army. Moreover, it is highly desirable, very quickly. Question: what? If you do not consider special means, then only one - pulsed explosive electromagnetic generators, and moreover - powerful enough to paralyze all Israeli energy, cut down TV and radio. The method is the most gentle and non-bloodthirsty, but capable of completely extinguishing the ability to conduct any meaningful military operations.
    1. vearey
      vearey 12 October 2017 19: 02 New
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      in the event of an Israeli attack on Hezbollah and CAA
      Duck already dozens of times. And with constant success. Homes and walls help.
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  27. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 31 New
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    Quote: Yoshi
    Kedmi explained everything: "Israel and Russia have an understanding of mutual interests"

    Yeah ... Kedmi is an authority ...
  28. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 37 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    You are waiting for provocations in response to insults.
    Boasted when it is. And now the IDF is raising a huge problem for both Assad and the Russian army. You better be friends with us.

    In scared, we were already shaking! That friendship will turn out, centuries-old! What is the huge problem that I saw?
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  29. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 48 New
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    Quote: Mikhail3
    Any militarily strong regime among the countries surrounding it is a critical threat to Israel. Since such a regime will require returning your own. Israel seized territory from all neighbors ... So Hezbollah is just an excuse. The goal is, of course, Assad.

    Well done !!! Very accurate !!! Now they will bark ...
  30. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 50 New
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    Quote: Ken71
    I didn’t want to give you a plus for this nonsense. But he promised to help before the lieutenant general therefore receive.

    What is this nonsense? All right! We have white, it is white, and black is black !!! The story says the same thing!
  31. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 52 New
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    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Any militarily strong regime among the countries surrounding it is a critical threat to Israel. Since such a regime will require returning your own.


    that is, a strong Iraq or Egypt, the Saudis of Ementi or Iran will demand to return theirs. what's yours?

    Will require of course! Then do not cry!
  32. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 20: 55 New
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    For the Zionist ...
    Hysteria is a Jewish trait, we don’t need yours, don’t shift from a sick head to a healthy one!
  33. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 21: 02 New
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    Good topic! The friendly and loud cry of the children of Israel, even those who, in their faith, do not understand anything ... Just to be drawn, but with what? The question is open ...
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  35. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 13 October 2017 00: 05 New
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    It seems that Syria is becoming the focus of the interests of numerous players in the Middle East, and oh how difficult it is to defend the interests of Syria.
  36. SMP
    SMP 13 October 2017 15: 10 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    You and the Iranians seemed smarter to me. But in order to substitute himself.


    Wow, the world collapsed from such an assessment, and you are sure that your opinion is important to Russia and Iran (("intellectual")) laughing
  37. piston
    piston 14 October 2017 23: 25 New
    +1
    Author: Evgeny Damantsev

    lol
  38. Zina389
    Zina389 15 October 2017 12: 49 New
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    Trump decided to run into Iran. Saudi king visited Moscow. I think Tehran is now restless. The Saudis and Turks should get the S-400, and the poor Iranians got the S-300. I think that Tehran is now restless. In Iraqi Kurdistan and Azerbaijan are now Israeli drones bases. I think that Tehran is very restless right now. Assad's victory is declared, fine. If Iranian troops and Hezbollah leave Syria, Israel will not have any questions for Assad. Another thing is that Assad has apparently lost his right to vote. What will the GDP say?