China announces first success in creating a railgun

The Maritime University of Engineering of the People’s Liberation Army of China announced the development of technologies that can be used to create the railgun. According to China Dailyin particular, we are talking about electromagnetic projectiles in motion. Other details about the new development are not given.

China has been developing its own railgun since the early 2000-ies, and research in the field of electromagnetic weapons generally conducted with 1980's. The first information about prototypes of new weapons, created and tested in China, appeared in the 2005 year. These were small laboratory samples that were unsuitable for scaling and production.

At present, the active development of the combat railgun and the successes achieved are the American company General Atomics and the British BAE Systems. Railgun BAE Systems uses for shooting metal kinetic shells weighing 16 kilograms. The muzzle energy of the gun is 32 megajoules. The prototype of the General Atomics cannon has a muzzle of 33 megajoules.

In July of this year, the Research Department of the US Navy, in conjunction with BAE Systems, conducted new tests of the railgun installed at the Dahlgren test site in Virginia. During these tests, the gun first fired two shots in a row. The purpose of the test was to test the ability of the gun to make several shots successively, the portal reports. "N + 1".

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[Professor]

Maritime University of Engineering Sciences of the People’s Liberation Army of China has announced the development of technologies that can be used to create the railgun.

And it tore off.

[cniza]

And why should they strain, especially since they don’t know how to “hide”.

[dvina71]

It would be something to hide .., I can understand um drive in small arms ... but artillery is valuable in a variety of trajectories .., why do you need a cannon striking in a straight line into space?
I’ve taken the bid .. in 4 lines of 5 corrections .. I will not specifically correct the beginning of the sentence.
The beginning was - Google lifted up.

[Topotun]

Yes, it's not the trajectory. The biggest problems are in a compact but powerful (and inexpensive) energy source. (Do not offer capacitor banks) Able to provide an appropriate rate of fire. And the survivability of the trunk (more precisely what it is). The principles of the railgun for more than 40 years ... A conventional gun comes out both cheaper and faster. Yes, and the survivability of the trunk is much higher.

[Shurik70]

And the photo was taken from the video about the American gun. So the Chinese keep their secrets. Just announced about them, but there are no technical details.
The Americans went along the path of a large-caliber railgun, which will be installed on ships. If successful, they will be able to shoot a cannon hundreds of kilometers away, and their shell cannot be repelled by modern means.

About ten years ago I heard about the Russian rail that a working prototype of a small-caliber rail was created, which will be installed in a missile defense. Such a missile will not even have to catch up with the enemy, it is enough to fire a shot from a fairly large distance.

[Professor]

Quote: cniza

And why should they strain, especially since they don’t know how to “hide”.

We have a factory in China for ten years. I am on a quarterly basis. So over the 10 years, they have very much advanced, but ... did not come up with a single new technology. 10 years have been improving what 2 technologies that stole from our competitors received from us. Well, they are not able to come up with a new one. Culture and education do not allow.

[APASUS]

Quote: professor

We have a factory in China for ten years. I am on a quarterly basis. So over the 10 years, they have very much advanced, but ... did not come up with a single new technology. 10 years have been improving what 2 technologies that stole from our competitors received from us. Well, they are not able to come up with a new one. Culture and education do not allow.

In this regard, we are all on an equal footing, but only China put it on stream

[tol100v]

Quote: cniza

that they can’t hide.

You cannot hide the laws of physics, but the subtleties of process technology are another matter. After all, everything seems to be simple, but there is such a thing as power consumption for one shot!

[Orionvit]

Twenty five again, damn scam. I don’t understand, who is this for, for housewives? I always said that the idea is purely theoretically interesting, its practical application in the atmosphere and near horizon, is simply unpromising.

[Topotun]

Well, not quite hopeless. If it were possible to disperse (with small gun dimensions) a 20 mm projectile to a speed of 5-7 km / s, any modern tanks would have big problems .....

[K-612-O]

A projectile flies out of a tank gun at about the same speed. And for what?

[Topotun]

A tank shell has a maximum of 1 km / s. According to experts, the projectile dispersed to 4-5 km / s, even with a small mass of up to 1 kg, will penetrate any modern armor.

[abrakadabre]

According to experts, the projectile dispersed to 4-5 km / s, even with a small mass of up to 1 kg, will penetrate any modern armor.

Your experts forgot about:
1. Flying in the most dense (near the surface) atmosphere and its effect on the accuracy of fire.
2. The effect of this very atmosphere on the destruction of the projectile at such speeds.
3. The survivability of the barrel with such extreme loads on the trunk. For example, the height of the barrel from shot to shot, which will require the introduction of number shells of variable caliber. As was the case with some extremely powerful guns.
etc.

In general, about these "experts." Any normal schoolchild can calculate the kinetic energy of a body accelerated to a certain speed and having a certain mass. Here seven spans in the forehead is not required.

[Topotun]

So count: a projectile accelerated to a speed of 5 km / s with a mass of 1 kg has a kinetic energy of 12,5 MJ. Tank shell "Mango" ZBM42 (sub-caliber) has a speed of 1650 m / s and a mass of 5 kg approximately. The energy is 6.4 MJ ....
Well, to ensure the survivability of a projectile at a distance of, say, 4 km (the maximum distance of direct fire artillery fire in our area) is quite possible ....
Yes, you understand - no one argues that at this stage all this is nothing more than funny toys. The sleep of reason. While there is no energy source with the dimensions of at least a 2-3 kW petrol unit capable of providing such a gun, methods will be developed to ensure the survivability of the barrel for at least 1000 shots, etc. etc .. In general, the prospects for such weapons so far are very none.

[mac789]

And if you cross, so to speak, a combat classic and a railgun? Well, that is, if you exaggerate, add a couple of three electromagnetic coils to the barrel of an ordinary gun? Perhaps this will simplify the creation of a combat option.

[Young_Communist]

Quote: Orionvit

Twenty five again, damn scam. I don’t understand, who is this for, for housewives? I always said that the idea is purely theoretically interesting, its practical application in the atmosphere and near horizon, is simply unpromising.

Again twenty-five, some kind of "gunpowder" damn it. I don’t understand, who is this intended for, for peasants? I always said that the idea is purely theoretically interesting, practical application in the conditions of impossibility to forge a fairly light arm and a smoky cloud, which after a shot closes the review of the knightly cavalry, is simply unpromising.

[NEXUS]

Quote: cniza

And why should they strain, especially since they don’t know how to “hide”.

Well, we are strongly not publicizing our shaitan gun ... but quietly and without presentations.

[cniza]

In general, it is better to do, and then, if necessary, demonstrate it.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: NEXUS

Well, we are strongly not advertising under the guise of a plane

is it on TV that the star is "not very advertizing"?
though it’s worth noting that we have some good ideas on the power source. what is interesting is the plot about our railgun and the plot about the device, with the help of an explosion generating a short-term powerful charge, they went one after another. such a conspiracy ...

[Gradus HuK]

Congratulations to your Chinese comrades!

[assa67]

the Chinese will say: "wi sho !!! that piece of iron just wallowed under the burdock, we just took it and we will see" ..... your star-striped friends just sold

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

And it tore off.

Such a high-tech system to "rip off" is almost impossible! There are so many theoretical studies that copying will not lead to anything.

China, in high technology, has long crossed that border when they stupidly copied.

[Professor]

Quote: Kurare

China, in high technology, has long crossed that border when they stupidly copied.

They stomp and stomp to this border.

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

They stomp and stomp to this border.

Not the way "consumer goods" with high technology. Of course, in many high-tech areas they are very seriously lagging behind. But they simply have giant human resources, not to mention money.

They, unlike Western thinking, are not afraid to make mistakes, even if these errors lead to human casualties (Maoist theory). A practice that makes your hair stand on end, but it works. While in the Western understanding the first step is being taken, having weighed all the pros and cons, the Chinese are making seven, with three having to be taken backward. But at the same time, they are already four steps ahead. Here is one of the components of their success. Combined with simply gigantic subsidies, this is very effective.

[Professor]

Quote: Kurare

Not the way "consumer goods" with high technology. Of course, in many high-tech areas they are very seriously lagging behind. But they simply have giant human resources, not to mention money.

I’m never about consumer goods. Our corporation is a high-tech company and the factory we do there does not produce consumer goods. The Chinese and new technologies are not compatible yet. They are wizards copy and improve copying. However, they cannot do anything new.

Quote: Kurare

They, unlike Western thinking, are not afraid to make mistakes, even if these errors lead to human casualties (Maoist theory).

Quite the opposite. For an Asian, to make a mistake and lose face is Harakiri.

Quote: Kurare

A practice that makes your hair stand on end, but it works. While in the Western understanding the first step is being taken, having weighed all the pros and cons, the Chinese are making seven, with three having to be taken backward. But at the same time, they are already four steps ahead. Here is one of the components of their success. Combined with simply gigantic subsidies, this is very effective.

Do you work with the Chinese or have you worked?

[Topgun]

I will say one thing - quantum communication ...
And how is Israel so different? I just have an association with him to "improve by copying" - they take the American vesch, paint the star of David and voila on it ...

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

Quite the opposite. For an Asian, to make a mistake and lose face is Harakiri.

It depends on who made the “mistake” and how. You are absolutely right, a mistake is a loss of face and shame. Therefore, their “mistakes” are not their mistakes, but simply “difficulties”. Well, if the error led to human casualties - costs.

Quote: professor

Do you work with the Chinese or have you worked?

Yes, I used to work quite often with the Chinese, I know by hearsay. I do not dispute your opinion, I just share mine.

[Professor]

Quote: Kurare

It depends on who made the “mistake” and how. You are absolutely right, a mistake is a loss of face and shame. Therefore, their “mistakes” are not their mistakes, but simply “difficulties”. Well, if the error led to human casualties - costs.

You are mistaken. The Chinese are not proactive, passive and sour. Until my engineers write out step by step what and how to do, they will not budge. They are not able to create anything new and this is not only my opinion. I was also told about this by the former CEO of Rafael, who worked for a year as general in Singapore. He could not stand it anymore.

Quote: Kurare

Yes, I used to work quite often with the Chinese, I know by hearsay. I do not dispute your opinion, I just share mine.

So you're lucky. You got the wrong Chinese. I did not come across such.

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

So you're lucky. You got the wrong Chinese. I did not come across such.

As for luck - smiled. Thank. Yes, it seems to me that the "wrong" Chinese really came across, and besides, they began to make the "wrong honey" (c).

It happened with the company, where my very good friend worked. One of the leading engineers, a Chinese, faded from the company to open his own. At first, the company stupidly made copies. Due to state support, and this in some cases up to 25%, they certainly decently pressed their European competitors. But literally in a year and a half, that NO one expected, they issued a completely new product. The development cycle of such a system was estimated at two to three years. The Chinese did it in less than a year.

The result was very interesting: 2 workers were killed at the factory, where they installed experimental equipment. And nothing happened. A year later, everything was already normal.

Result: within 1,5-2 years, the Chinese created a new and innovative product, at a cost price completely inaccessible to European analogues, which are not even there yet!

[bk316]

the Chinese make seven, with three having to do back.

You in your adoration of the Chinese even made a mistake
If you take 7 steps from them 3 back, then in the right direction YOU WILL NOT MOVE TO 4 AND TO ONE STEP

[Professor]

Quote: bk316

the Chinese make seven, with three having to do back.

You in your adoration of the Chinese even made a mistake
If you take 7 steps from them 3 back, then in the right direction YOU WILL NOT MOVE TO 4 AND TO ONE STEP

Test !!!

[Kurare]

Quote: bk316

YOU WILL NOT MOVE 4 AND ONE STEP

This is if you walk haphazardly! Well, you can do that even two steps back.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: professor

And it tore off.

Alas, you are right, the nation of photocopiers ... We decided to go the easy way, it’s easier to steal technologies than to do basic sciences and develop our technologies ourselves! In principle, there are successes, but this is a constant lag .. Maybe this is for the best, for everyone in the world!

[Komsomol]

Sorry, forum users ... I could not deny myself the pleasure of laughing ... If the German circular saw could not be copied normally, what kind of railgun they could humanly copy from white people, I beg you .....

[seat9969]

nepoyma your jealousy of China is becoming stronger ...... you can see how the Russians envy the success of China ...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: seat9969

nepoyma your jealousy of China is becoming stronger ...... you can see how the Russians envy the success of China ...

It’s just that most of the patriots cheers are seen by China back in the 90s, and try not to notice China’s military budget, economy, and the fact that China’s defense industry does not stand still and everything is being developed there, there is money, and if there is money, why China should stand still? something can be bought, something can be taken out by espionage and + your developments.

[XXXIII]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Simply, most of the patriots cheers see China back in the 90s

Come on, Alexander, China simply copies ideas, gives the market only mass-produced goods, the rest of the projects are all in cooperation with scientific institutes of other countries .... In general, he is not the first in science, only in labor production .... But I do not want to say that they are stupid, they just go the easy way while it is possible .....

"Stay behind - find yourself in front"

[missuris]

why then do I use the most powerful supercomputers in the world? they are now on the modern iron calmly catching up with the undisclosed achievements of the Soviets and the USA during the Cold War when they spent a lot of money and effort on hiring. and after the Cold War, neither we nor the United States developed many technologies, did not develop much, less than in that race.

[Komsomol]

Our envy? Why, dear, to the fact that the Russian drill (17 years old) works, and the Chinese technology dies before it is born? What is being copied, copied, not copied ...? Thank you and the Chinese-cheered up after a hard day of work.

[XXXIII]

Quote: seat9969

Russian drill ?? Yes, you don’t do socks, not just a drill, but even if it’s made from Chinese spare parts, and those looking for sovets drills, no one disputes, but this was done by the USSR, but this is a completely different story ...

Russia is the successor of the USSR, we can do everything, even wipe snot only born countries .....

[seat9969]

probably the legal clerk only on paper but in the culture of production in schools of engineers in the construction of institutes and schools ..... something was not received ...

[Kondratko]

That shaw, are you admitted?
Here you go:
https://price.ru/dreli-shurupoverty/drel-rossiysk
ogo-proizvodstva /
You can really continue to try to troll about the "Chinese" rotors and stators with brushes, but it looks like you froze in the 2000s and still have not thawed. Some time is coming and today the country begins to produce what our benevolent "partners" destroyed.
And how are you doing in Romania, are you already making drills or so far only socks?

[bk316]

yeah you don’t do socks, not like a drill

Said a man from a wild land called ruin.
Forgot more about hedgehog cutlets to write.
If you have not run out of electricity yet, hurry up, google Interskol Alabuga

[assa67]

let them play, money is

[sergo1914]

I will surprise you. The railgun is simpler than a circular saw. It is hard to say who does not have it now. But where is the compact power source? The size is smaller than the railway carriage. Alas...

[tol100v]

Quote: Komsomol

... If the German circular saw could not be normally copied, what kind of railgun they could humanly copy from white people, I beg you ...

Circular saw, circular saw ... but most of the German and Japanese automobile industries were COPIED and sold to Russia!

[XXXIII]

Quote: Tol100v

Copied, and sold in Russia!

Sometimes a copy is not inferior to the original ....

[bk316]

most of the German, and Japanese car industry was COPIED, and sold to Russia!

Well, suckers chasing a freebie and in the Russian Federation is enough.
Only 100 times better to buy a Korean assembly RF than a German assembly PRC

[san4es]

China is developing its own railgun

... In any case, they will launch into space
(joke)

[Des10]

Just like a cannon - that smoke!

[Alexey-74]

Where is Chinese technology, and where is the railgun ....? I don’t want to say bad things about China, but their technologies are unlikely to get ahead of ours, American or English ............ and this applies not only to the railgun, but also to the 5th generation aircraft and other promising weapons. Their principle - the main thing is to declare loudly and to classify everything .... and let everyone rack their brains there or not ....

[tol100v]

Quote: Alexey-74

..and let everyone rack their brains or not ...

And Ali-Express delivers tens of thousands of goods to Russia every day from nowhere!

[Uryukc]

Yes, only with quality goods on Ali is difficult to find, anyway, you have to drag from Germany and the USA.

[Herculesic]

And besides the statement, the storytellers from the Middle Kingdom confirmed their tales with anything? ??

[XXXIII]

Quote: Herkulesich

anything confirmed? ??

they can.....

[Eurodav]

Quote: professor

Maritime University of Engineering Sciences of the People’s Liberation Army of China has announced the development of technologies that can be used to create the railgun.

And it tore off.

Well, they’re not so brilliant!

[Eurodav]

Quote: seat9969

nepoyma your jealousy of China is becoming stronger ...... you can see how the Russians envy the success of China ...

You have a perverse logic, you judge by yourself! We do not envy, but rejoice in the successes of our neighbors, but you don’t understand this ...

[Yoshi]

Smarties.
Work.
There is funding. The task is set correctly, in the best Soviet traditions. The approach to "managers from science" is the same. Prison.
I think that they will have a railgun. And most likely not without the help of our specialists.