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Meet the leader of the presidential rating

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During the week, the Levada Center, a sociological monitoring service, published the results of a survey conducted in September of this year on future presidential elections in Russia. For obvious reasons, the closer March is, the more similar surveys will be conducted by various research centers, sociological services and other similar organizations.


Why "understandably"? Yes, if only because the situation with the coverage of the 2016 election in the United States and the post-election situation there, as well as an informational squall about the Catalan referendum and its results, somewhat shaded the significance of the events inside Russia for citizens. What is called, the media overdone ...

Firstly, the voter needs to be reminded of the upcoming elections in the Russian Federation. Secondly, whenever possible, to attract people to polling stations. But then, the presidential cycle, as is known, is six years old, and many are already “lost” with the answer to the question whether this cycle ends at all, or it can be extended somehow automatically without visiting polling stations ...

In the “Levada Center” survey, 1,6 thousand respondents aged from 18 years — that is, those with voting rights — took part. To the first question, and he was about whether the respondents knew the time of the upcoming elections, 44% of respondents correctly answered - they named the month and the year exactly. It is noteworthy that 21% of respondents were not able to answer this question at all, “without risking” to even name the approximate year of voting for the presidential candidate.

Further, survey participants were asked about who they would vote for, if the elections were held next Sunday, and if you keep in mind the choice of whether to go or not to go to polling stations. In the top five (bottom-up): Dmitry Medvedev (less than 1%), Alexey Navalny (about 1%), Gennady Zyuganov 2%, Vladimir Zhirinovsky - 2%, Vladimir Putin - 52%. The following fact is noteworthy: 23% of respondents said they did not know who to vote for in the elections. About 9% responded that they would not vote. That is, the real triple (based on the results of the survey looks like this: 1 - Putin, 2 - I don’t know. 3 - I won’t go to elections.

The results of the following question looked a bit strange, a priori implying that each of the respondents would certainly go to the polls. Vladimir Putin already has 64% in it. And the number of those who do not know who to vote for has also grown - up to 28%. That is, many of those who are not going to go to the polls, if they still came to the polling stations / crawled / docked, would vote for the current president. The headquarters took it into service? ..

But this is oddity (or, like in that cartoon, to paraphrase: “maybe not oddity ...”) in the survey results is not the only one. Further employees Levada Center they offered respondents to give the name of the politician for whom they would give their votes if Vladimir Putin does not put forward his candidacy for the March elections. This is taking into account the fact that "all the others" will nominate their candidates.

The result is as follows: in the first place, literally the final spurt comes out (attention!) Dmitry Medvedev. And for him are already going to cast their votes 8% of voters. Yes, it’s about 1,5 times lower than Poroshenko’s Ukrainian electoral rating, on which (over Poroshenko and his rating) we’ve made it, sorry, laugh, not covering the mouth, but this is ... the leader of the poll. Yes, yes ... 8% for leadership, as it turned out, is enough. And this is taking into account the fact that in answering the question that was asked a couple of minutes before that, Dmitry Anatolyevich had a “okolonol”.

Meet the leader of the presidential rating


If the sociology were awarded the Alfred Nobel Prize, then its owner in 2017 would definitely be the Levada Center. After all, the experts of this particular organization have revealed a truly fantastic pattern: if Vladimir Putin does not go to the polls, then Dmitry Medvedev’s rating grows many times ... And at the same time “repeatedly”, and no higher than the seventh or eighth part of the current president’s rating.

In fact, there is nothing particularly strange about this result. After all, the survey was among ordinary citizens "on the street", and a certain percentage of ordinary citizens already at a subconscious level "absorbed" the paradigm that "if not Putin, then Medvedev."

The most remarkable thing is that 3% of respondents were reinforced concretely motivated and to the question for whom you vote if Vladimir Putin does not take part in the elections, they clearly answered: “Putin”.

By the way, here in the Western media it was recently said that the current president would, so to speak, appoint the current head of the Tula region as a possible successor. Similar information about the “high chances” of Alexey Dyumin was previously published by the Petersburg Politics Foundation. So Alexey Dyumin in this survey is less than 1%.

What conclusion can be drawn from this survey? Counting on “I'm tired. I am leaving ”may finally guess at who Vladimir Putin will“ choose ”on 2017-2018 on New Year's Eve with those ratings published by Levada ... More realistic people, the“ successor ”operations cannot see in the near future same percentage data.

Although, as you know, statistics is a thing: take, publish some large social monitoring agency from the same Dmitry Medvedev (or hypothetical candidate N) percent not 8, but 48, and the feeling “everyone ran and I ran” completely able to work with any assessment of the work of the government and a particular candidate. Figures are a stubborn thing, and psychology is flexible ... But such scenarios, as can be seen, have not yet been proposed. And Dmitry Medvedev's eight-percent electoral leadership is, well, except, in that sense, to surprise Western “partners” and sow seeds of hope in their hearts and souls ...
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  1. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 12 October 2017 05: 48 New
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    "That is, many of those who are not going to go to the polls, if they still got to the polls / crawled / poked around, would vote for the current president."
    Apparently I will join them.
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 12 October 2017 07: 45 New
      33
      Oh how! Levada. Ie Soros wants Medvedev at the head of Russia. We will know.

      This Levada, he is Moreinis-Kogan, and sho vi thought - from Vinnitsa, has long been noted as a 5th column. If someone forgot about it, then you can find a reminder on the Internet to your taste. I’ll just give the first one that popped up in my search engine: “What is the Levada Center and how it howl against Russia” politus.ru/v-rossii/1781-chto-predstavlyaet-soboy
      -levada-centr-i-kakim-obrazom-on-voyut-protiv-ros
      sii.html
      1. Orel
        Orel 12 October 2017 07: 56 New
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        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Oh how! Levada. Ie Soros wants Medvedev at the head of Russia. We will know.


        This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country. We are an authoritarian country prone to the cult of personality and sliding into dictatorship. It just does not happen in a free country where there is political competition, such ratings. May God grant 20-30 percent - this is for rating politicians in any democratic country in general space. The leader of the nation cannot have competitors. It is no accident that we are put on a par with the DPRK and Syria, there the ratings are similar, even close to 100 percent, here Putin still has something to strive for.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 12 October 2017 08: 17 New
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          Quote: Orel
          This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country.

          Less listen to "Rain" and "Echo of Moscow." Let it go.
          This “poll” cannot prove anything. Trust in him is zero.
          We have incomparably more freedom and democracy than in the self-glorified west.
          And under the USSR, there was also more. This has come to many.
          BUT. If a man himself is a slave in his soul, then he is not given a glimpse into another world for him and see freedom.
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 08: 54 New
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          Orel Today, 07:56 ↑ New
          This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country. We are an authoritarian country prone to the cult of personality and sliding into dictatorship.
          Apparently this is big news for you ?! That is, you absolutely do not know either your people, nor the history of Russia, nor the mentality. Immediately visible CIA feeding up. Russian apparently was taught in a dictionary, but what about the mysterious Russian soul ?!
          We are a priori totalitarian country, prone to dictatorship, we don’t need your bullshit! We need stability and calm, and leave shit democracy, freedom of verbiage, and other gay-liberal "values" to yourself ...
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 12 October 2017 09: 29 New
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            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            We are a priori totalitarian country, prone to dictatorship, we don’t need your bullshit! We need stability and calm, and leave shit democracy, freedom of verbiage, and other gay-liberal "values" to yourself ...

            Yes, but the dull west continues to persistently teach the bear to eat one corn, on the other hand, they have no choice ...
            Z.Y. democracy is a Jewish invention, a tool for access and control of goyim.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 12 October 2017 10: 06 New
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              Quote: SPACE
              Yes, but the dull west continues to stubbornly teach the bear to eat one corn, on the other hand, they have no choice ..

              Ate at Khrushchev ...
              1. Tula gingerbread
                Tula gingerbread 12 October 2017 14: 37 New
                +6
                This bastard has done a lot of things.
                1. Bumblebee_3
                  Bumblebee_3 12 October 2017 20: 54 New
                  +5
                  Tula gingerbread. If you allow me, I will intercede a little, for N.S. Khrushchev. I still live in the "Khrushchev", i.e. in a house built in 1962. You should know how N.S. Khrushchev overpowered the people from the basements and basements. Remember at least the famous "Cheryomushki". Under Khrushchev, the development of Kazakhstan virgin land was carried out. Under Khrushchev, we were the first in space! And the fact that he handed over the Crimea of ​​the Ukrainian SSR, please do not confuse it with an independent Ukraine! Then we were all one SOVIET PEOPLE.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 21: 20 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Bumblebee_3
                    You should know how N.S. Khrushchev overpowered the people from basements and basements

                    And that was Stalin’s project, by the way. since the 46th year
                    1. Bumblebee_3
                      Bumblebee_3 12 October 2017 21: 35 New
                      +1
                      So what did Khrushchev do if he continued the Stalin project? Moreover, he “should” was against all of Stalin’s projects. Do you deny about space?
                  2. Oleko
                    Oleko 13 October 2017 06: 17 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Bumblebee_3
                    Tula gingerbread. If you allow me, I will intercede a little, for N.S. Khrushchev. I still live in the "Khrushchev", i.e. in a house built in 1962. You should know how N.S. Khrushchev overpowered the people from the basements and basements. Remember at least the famous "Cheryomushki". Under Khrushchev, the development of Kazakhstan virgin land was carried out. Under Khrushchev, we were the first in space! And the fact that he handed over the Crimea of ​​the Ukrainian SSR, please do not confuse it with an independent Ukraine! Then we were all one SOVIET PEOPLE.

                    To express your point of view is your right. There is no need to ask for permission. Well, I'm about mine. Without the slogans of the "SOVIET PEOPLE". I live in a block five-story building, they are called "A la drunk construction battalion" in the town. They were handed over with a sign of quality, which the people bore the name: "both managed and did." There is no cement screed under the bathroom. Cottage without stolen cement and not at all. The wife dismantled the gas burner, there wasn’t enough gas pressure to ignite .. Then I put the boiler. There is no compensation for the use of electric heating. This is about houses.
                    Now about virgin soil and bread. In the village Golubitskaya mother sent me for bread. Naive woman. This is not the suburbs. The line rushed to the counter, I was squeezed so that I almost lost consciousness from suffocation. 1959 year. Mother then for a long time sent different goodies to the village: waffles, liver, sweets. The answer came ... black caviar. A lot of. The real one.
                    Since 1963, the country began to purchase grain abroad. Canada. 30-40 million tons per year. The result of Nikitin’s “experiments” with “Miracle Woman.” (Cartoon - lovely. Especially weeds. They walked “on them.” Especially when they sang with a guitar: “They didn’t sow us, they didn’t sting us, Hall in chorus:“ Bread farmers didn’t respect us, HA! HA! "The hall barked HA! HA! So that a few bulbs in the chandelier of the cinema hall of the Officers House didn’t light up." Mom, give me "kopecks" "what will happen?" "Miracle" "Again HA HA" you will yell? "Silence - sign of consent.)
                    [/ quote] Essay on the fifth
                    WHAT IS SAM-3 OR SAM-7?
                    WHAT HARVEST WAS IN RUSSIA [quote]

                    I read about “re-planting” (a lot of manure), about how large landowners were looking for a way (they supplied grain to the foreign market, and not the individual peasant) in the “risky farming zone”.
                    The experience with the virgin failed. Soil erosion has begun. Well, the mighty K-700 frolicked in the fields, destroying fertile humus with wheels. Nikita was warned, But to him something. "The party solemnly declares: the current generation of Soviet people will live under communism." It means that they will live in 1980. The program for building communism was adopted at the next historic 22nd Congress of the CPSU. It is designed for 20 years. "Catch up and overtake America." -1st stage. Stage 2 - from each according to work, each according to his ability. 3rd stage - from each according to his work (constant increase in labor productivity), to each according to his needs (needs must constantly decrease. As we were told in lectures on scientific communism, no woman wouldn’t want to have 10 fur coats and keep them at home, why? Communist production is able to satisfy the need for any fur coat, at any moment. There is a lot to do about the withering away of the state’s role as a communist society is built. For now, the Americans are joking from the Armenian radio: “Can a Soviet worker buy a house and a car?” The Armenian radio itched and puffed for a long time and said: “But you have blacks lynching.” When the United States and the Saudis collapsed oil prices, Pavlov turned on the machine and hyperinflation swept the country and card system
                  3. NordUral
                    NordUral 14 October 2017 16: 40 New
                    +1
                    Khrushchev simply gave a name to what the beginning had under Stalin. So you live in Stalin, one that is not for the elite, but for the people.
            2. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 12 October 2017 11: 11 New
              +7
              Democracy is not what you think. Democracy is the power of democrats (crap). The people have nothing to do with it.
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 12 October 2017 12: 12 New
                +7
                Quote: NEXUS
                Ate at Khrushchev ...

                Quote: AKuzenka
                Democracy is the power of democrats

                It looks like honey, it tastes like dermo.
                1. A.Lex
                  A.Lex 13 October 2017 09: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: SPACE
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Ate at Khrushchev ...

                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  Democracy is the power of democrats

                  It looks like honey, it tastes like dermo.

                  Ndaaaa ... You also tasted? Brave you, however!
                  laughing
              2. NordUral
                NordUral 14 October 2017 16: 41 New
                0
                Nothing has changed since the days of the ancient Greeks. Democracy is for the top, and everything else is for us.
          2. Deniska999
            Deniska999 12 October 2017 10: 06 New
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            How interesting, of course. The man expressed his opinion, different from the others, and immediately "extortion of the CIA."
            1. freddyk
              freddyk 12 October 2017 11: 24 New
              +7
              Well, and who else, it is in the plans of the CIA to impose on us Western values. So they destroyed the Union, washing us with brains.
              1. spirit
                spirit 12 October 2017 13: 22 New
                +7
                It will be funny to look at you when they accuse you of having links with the CIA if something doesn’t suit you) how can we say you're a patriot laughing
                1. japs
                  japs 12 October 2017 20: 38 New
                  +5
                  spirit: ... "It will be ridiculous to look at you when they accuse you of having links with the CIA ..."

                  Who will blame? Any Shvonder in a denunciation? In 404 - it is. We had it in
                  37-38 years.
                  The people have a vaccination from this. So, dear, you are wrong.
          3. SERGUS
            SERGUS 12 October 2017 11: 21 New
            +8
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            We are a priori totalitarian country, prone to dictatorship, we don’t need your bullshit!

            So I have such an opinion, but I don’t understand why, why half of the country at the turn of the 80s and 90s ran for Yeltsin who promised freedom and democracy. It turns out they got what they wanted, and then they realized that we don’t need it!? And GDP stubbornly does not recognize this, stubbornly insists that Russia has no special way, and we must live by generally accepted principles.
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            We need stability and calm.

            Calm, yes, but stability, in our country it is stagnation, but we need to develop, otherwise the end.
            1. Lyuba1965_01
              Lyuba1965_01 12 October 2017 19: 22 New
              +9
              Do you like daily jumping prices in stores? Do you like the constant raising of a communal apartment? I like that you can’t plan your expenses at least a few months in advance? If you consider this stagnation, then I am against such a “development." I am for stagnation!
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 13 October 2017 09: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                If you consider this stagnation, then I am against such a “development." I am for stagnation!

                I agree with you, while idle, I talked about something else: that we have one concept replaced by another.
          4. Old military officer
            Old military officer 12 October 2017 13: 08 New
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            I join with all my heart. This word - democracy, especially when they start to shock and refer to world public opinion - causes persistent rejection and a violent surge in the most obscene language, excuse me.
            1. A.Lex
              A.Lex 13 October 2017 09: 08 New
              0
              Quote: Old Warruk
              I join with all my heart. This word - democracy, especially when they start to shock and refer to world public opinion - causes persistent rejection and a violent surge in the most obscene language, excuse me.

              ... and the hand reaches for the gun ...
          5. spirit
            spirit 12 October 2017 13: 17 New
            +3
            Who is it for us? You do not compare yourself with everyone, all whom I know hold on to a different point of view, and including myself, no one will ask you)
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 12 October 2017 13: 37 New
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              Quote: spirit
              all whom I know hold on to a different point of view and myself including

              And I know all who adhere to different points of view, and I, including laughing So better answer for yourself. wink
          6. Oleg Zotov
            Oleg Zotov 12 October 2017 18: 40 New
            +1
            Fear, that’s the basis of order)
          7. Karabin
            Karabin 12 October 2017 19: 45 New
            10
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Immediately visible CIA feeding up.

            Diana, you remind me of the hero Rolan Bykov from the movie "Two Comrades Served." You saw that counter in almost every first, you are CIA agents. Husband also feeds from the State Department?
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            We need stability and peace

            There is such a place - a cemetery. And stability. And peace.
          8. Orel
            Orel 13 October 2017 06: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            we don’t need your shit democracy!


            It’s quite funny when he says a person who has not seen democracy, does not know and has never lived with it. In our country, Diana has never had real democracy in Russia. I just want us to come to her at last. Therefore, you criticize democracy early, we have not seen it yet.
        3. St Petrov
          St Petrov 12 October 2017 11: 17 New
          +8
          This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country. We are an authoritarian country prone to the cult of personality and sliding into dictatorship


          you have a lot of democracy advocates in Ekb wassat you need to close the US embassy, ​​or fragile minds begin to yell about authoritarianism

          funny course you have posts. This is because you go to bulk meetings. consider infected with Anglo-Saxon thinking and in the phrases there are a lot of cliches that they pull on our globe. but it’s one thing to listen to it from some sort of Michael Bohm - and it’s another thing to listen to someone who lives in Yekaterinburg

          in general, something is wrong with you No. mattresses have infected you

          Vryatli, of course, you work for the CIA, as Diana suggested)) you just like you there ... you don’t need it at all, you work for free and act and write in the way that Western technologists need - they processed it. powdery fragile 30 year old brain.

          And now you don’t even have to pay, and you are already like an echo of Moscow - the same theses, messages and thoughts

          so the CIA, the NSA, or whoever oversees the direction in the Russian Federation, did a good job. Yes, they competently work since 96 in principle. Not surprising
          1. spirit
            spirit 12 October 2017 13: 18 New
            +4
            Are you talking about GDP? THIS HE SUPPLIED IT I think visitors to this site are not familiar with fucking
          2. Orel
            Orel 13 October 2017 06: 45 New
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            Quote: s-t Petrov
            Vryatli you certainly work for the CIA as suggested by Diana))


            I noticed that there are people who are prone to paranoia.

            Quote: s-t Petrov
            funny course you have posts.


            Laugh. I do not forbid. Your business. Let’s put many not laughing, judging by the number of stars.

            Quote: s-t Petrov
            This is because you go to bulk meetings. consider infected with Anglo-Saxon thinking and in phrases a lot of cliches


            I wonder what cliché can be in that the elected mayor is taken away because he is not “his own” for the authorities, and then he is not allowed to go to the gubernatorial elections ??? Are you a case not from Moscow ??? Tell Vladimir Vladimirovich there that he may be engaged in appointments in his administration. Here, people themselves are able to choose those who will manage them. Let it get used. His appointees already got me. The first question for these people is always the same: "Who are you at all? And what kind of person were you in the area? I did not call you here." And believe me, this is not my only attitude. I began to speak out against such things. This is just humiliating me as a Ural. I myself can choose and decide for me from whom I do not need to choose either.
        4. andj61
          andj61 12 October 2017 11: 47 New
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          Quote: Orel
          This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country. We are an authoritarian country prone to the cult of personality and sliding into dictatorship. It just does not happen in a free country where there is political competition, such ratings.

          There are such ratings! Roosevelt, De Gaulle, Reagan, Thatcher, and Kohl had no less ratings.
          The ratings do not depend on the mythical "freedom" in the country, but on the scale of the leader’s personality - that's all! And you won’t look at the current leaders of Western countries - such even a small municipality is not worthy to lead, not like a decent country! hi
          1. Orel
            Orel 13 October 2017 06: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: andj61
            There are such ratings! Roosevelt, De Gaulle, Reagan, Thatcher, and Kohl had no less ratings.


            Occasionally, yes, but not 17 years in a row. You must admit that in the media 99 percent is Putin’s praise. The echo of Moscow is only concerned with criticism, and it is extremely cautious, since they are also kept on a short leash. There is no criticism of the president - no. Do you really believe that he never makes mistakes ??? This is impossible. In principle, this does not happen. Why then do not discuss his mistakes ??? Because the media are cleaned up and put into operation. There is no political competition, pluralism of opinions and there is no responsibility of the authorities for their actions. Putin is not responsible for anything. Nobody ever blames him for anything, even if he is to blame. I am against this hypocrisy. And you gave good examples, and this is in countries where there is everything I wrote about. It’s just a legend to have such ratings in free competition. In such circumstances, Putin would have a rating of yes, God would be 15 percent, not more, if not 5, if you recall his mistakes.
            1. andj61
              andj61 13 October 2017 09: 18 New
              +4
              Quote: Orel
              Occasionally, yes, but not 17 years in a row.

              Kohl was a leader for 16 consecutive years, Thatcher was 11 years old, Merkel (although I don’t consider her equal to politicians of the 60-80s is already 12 years old, and no one doubts that he will become chancellor for another 4 years. When Putin was elected in 2000 "It was a credit of trust, and then they really believed him. And this is not a matter of propaganda. He simply far surpasses all those who are nominated as candidates. But those who could really resist him today are the same Shoigu." and Lavrov - will not participate in the elections.
              Regarding the cleaned-up media - is it with us that they are cleaned up? You can still say something against us - in the Western media this means the end of a career. Yes, and the Internet allows everything. And besides the Internet, it is full of newspapers, radio stations, and even television channels, clearly taking the exact opposite position. In the West, all this is simply not there - in the opponents there are our RT and Sputnik. So on cable channels and we have a lot of Western TV channels, and how many radio stations broadcast on us - not count! And if, in spite of all the efforts of the Western media and our liberals, Putin’s rating is overwhelming, moreover, he’s real and not pouty - maybe this is not a mistake for you? Maybe there is another justification for this fact besides brainwashing?
              I have never voted for Putin, but I clearly understand that, after 2008, he is a significant figure for maintaining the unity of the country, for returning to Russian citizens self-esteem. From my youth I grew up in a great country, being confident in the future, despite the difficulties facing the country and society. Since 1991, when I was 30 years old, the country was lowered into shit - and everyone had a corresponding mood. And somewhere in 2007-2008, we felt that the country was slowly getting out of this shit. We have a lot of things just shitty, a lot of things are not done right, we go at a ragged pace, often a step forward - two steps back, but still we go forward. And Putin's merit is undoubted. And I do not believe that those who are opposed to Putin - and screamers from the non-systemic opposition (many of them were "in the system", but the people refused to trust them), and opposition leaders would do better systemic. hi
              1. Orel
                Orel 13 October 2017 19: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: andj61
                Kohl was a leader for 16 consecutive years, Thatcher for 11 years, Merkel (although I don’t consider her equal to politicians of the 60-80s - for 12 years already, and no one doubts that he will become chancellor for another 4 years.


                Parliamentary republics are different. There, executive powers are severely limited. Therefore, a few terms for such a system is completely normal. We have a presidential republic and even a super-presidential republic, if you are familiar with the theory and our practice. For such a system to rule for so many years is abnormal.

                Quote: andj61
                Maybe there is another justification for this fact besides brainwashing?


                There is only one explanation - the TV. According to all surveys, the majority of people in the country draw information from television and radio. For a long time you heard Putin’s criticism on TV and radio. What are we talking about. The leader cannot be blamed and his mistakes also indicated - the leader is always right and "outplayed everyone." So far, such a line in our TV will have such a rating.

                Quote: andj61
                I have never voted for Putin, but I clearly understand that, after 2008, he is a significant figure for maintaining the unity of the country, for returning to Russian citizens self-esteem.


                I voted for him. The first 2 terms he was needed. Now I am sure that it slows down the development of the country and pulls us into the past. Yeltsin ceded power to him because he saw that it would be worse to stay. Putin could not stand the test of power. Sometimes you need to leave on time so that your country can take steps forward. Now under Putin we are developing according to the classical stagnant scenario: a step forward - two steps back.

                Quote: andj61
                Since 1991, when I was 30 years old, the country was lowered into shit - and everyone had a corresponding mood. And somewhere in 2007-2008, we felt that the country was slowly getting out of this shit. We have a lot of things just shitty, a lot of things are not done right, we go at a ragged pace, often a step forward - two steps back, but still we go forward. And Putin's merit is undoubted.


                You're right. Right from my tongue they took off about "a step forward - two back." I will not correct. Apparently our thoughts coincided. However, I still think that it is important for a politician to see that he is no longer in his place and in time to give an opportunity to others. We are not going there right now. However, this is only my opinion. Yours I respect no less. I can’t insist on my own.

                Quote: andj61
                And I do not believe that those who are opposed to Putin - and screamers from the non-systemic opposition (many of them were "in the system", but the people refused to trust them), and opposition leaders would do better systemic.


                Maybe you are right. Check is unlikely to succeed. It’s just that I feel the risk of sliding towards revolution. I do not want this to happen, because it does not bode well, but for now, tightening the screws leads precisely to this scenario. Not tomorrow, of course, but the accumulation of discontent will continue and may explode. It will be bad for everyone. Putin has been very shortsighted in his politics in recent years. It creates more problems than it solves. Therefore, I believe that his management is already ineffective. However, again - this is only my opinion and I do not pretend to the truth. I hope that only good is ahead.
        5. Yudenich
          Yudenich 13 October 2017 03: 55 New
          +1
          The rating, in my opinion, is very close to the truth. My wife and many acquaintances I know say: "We do not vote for Putin, but for stability!" And they are in many ways right. And I stably out of love for pluralism vote either for Zyuganov or Zhirik. What is not democracy for you? Is there a choice? There is. Vote for whoever you want, no one commits.
        6. Krabik
          Krabik 14 October 2017 06: 56 New
          0
          Freedom and democracy are the double lodges of the Anglo-Saxon world, which at one time traded in blacks.

          In general, read what democracy is and do not confuse it with communism ...
        7. Dmitry Konoplev
          Dmitry Konoplev 14 October 2017 21: 43 New
          0
          In how someone took out your brain, sorry YOU. Such a rating in a free country;)) although I do not know such countries in principle. Yes, and so you remind you how much was President Franklin Roosevelt, as well as Mrs. Merkel. This is not about the change of power;)). Good luck.
      2. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 12 October 2017 09: 45 New
        13
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Ie Soros wants Medvedev at the head of Russia. We will know.

        I do not think that in Russia there will be a sufficient number of mentally defective citizens who are ready to vote for this disgusting creature.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 October 2017 10: 07 New
          21
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          I do not think that in Russia there will be a sufficient number of mentally defective citizens who are ready to vote for this disgusting creature.

          He buried himself in one sentence, "No money, but you hold on! He does not see the presidency as his ears. Our people have long remembered such pearls."
          1. Zheleznostop
            Zheleznostop 12 October 2017 11: 48 New
            +7
            Yeah, cast in granite, so to speak)
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 12 October 2017 19: 01 New
          0
          what a whipping characteristic ... but finally he is like a prime minister ...
          1. Krabik
            Krabik 16 October 2017 16: 17 New
            0
            Like 2 people in the country.

            If Putin leaves, then Medvedev will be the leader, regardless of his rating and pearl;)
      3. bardadym
        bardadym 12 October 2017 10: 23 New
        16
        Funny poll, yeah.
        The choice between Medvedev and Navalny is gorgeous.
        It was only when I began to ask friends I knew that almost all of them instantly remembered at least Kozhugetych and Lavrov, and at the very least put up a couple of candidates for Putin’s successors. And where are they in the survey? How not? Wonders...
        1. Zheleznostop
          Zheleznostop 12 October 2017 11: 49 New
          +6
          Medvedev and Navalny, it's like a Predator and a Stranger.
          1. long in stock.
            long in stock. 12 October 2017 13: 01 New
            +7
            yeah. just both in a cartoony version ...
        2. Krabik
          Krabik 16 October 2017 16: 20 New
          0
          The leader must run the country for at least 10 years, and Lavrov and Kozhugetych are no longer young and they cannot simply cope with such a load by age.

          Therefore, they will not lead the country after Putin.
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 12 October 2017 13: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        We will know.


        Hey. Less pay attention to the opinions of the empty-bore. My Moscow friends report (in the ear) that they are stubbornly exaggerating the candidacy for the "first" one, Dyumin Alexey Gennadievich. Well, let's see how it gets out.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 12 October 2017 19: 04 New
          +1
          They say he guarded the GDP. I don’t know what kind of education he has, but now he will make himself a strong business executive.
        2. Lyuba1965_01
          Lyuba1965_01 12 October 2017 19: 24 New
          +3
          Dyumin, maybe a worthy man. The only bad thing is that nothing is known about him. An autobiography does not count.
          1. Alikos
            Alikos 12 October 2017 19: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Lyuba1965_01
            Dyumin, maybe a worthy man. The only bad thing is that nothing is known about him. An autobiography does not count.


            Not. it’s better to let the GDP continue than this bodyguard ...
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 13 October 2017 11: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Lyuba1965_01
            . The only bad thing is that nothing is known about him.


            Hey. And what is it bad at the moment? If his candidacy is quoted, then the promotion in full will begin. Cause time, cause time ....
      5. Alikos
        Alikos 12 October 2017 18: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Oh how! Levada. Ie Soros wants Medvedev at the head of Russia. We will know.

        This Levada, he is Moreinis-Kogan, and sho vi thought - from Vinnitsa, has long been noted as a 5th column. If someone forgot about it, then you can find a reminder on the Internet to your taste. I’ll just give the first one that popped up in my search engine: “What is the Levada Center and how it howl against Russia” politus.ru/v-rossii/1781-chto-predstavlyaet-soboy
        -levada-centr-i-kakim-obrazom-on-voyut-protiv-ros
        sii.html

        M-yeah!
        Medvedev is the "leader" ... "The agromad block" is simply the "Giant"!
        Twenty meters in heels, who else but He should be a candidate for the post ...
        Do we already have real Russian people in Russia?
      6. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 12 October 2017 19: 10 New
        +5


        Our new formidable leader.
      7. Overlock
        Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 14 New
        0
        From the source:
        Do you generally approve or disapprove of the activities of Dmitry Medvedev as chairman of the government (president) of Russia?

        Approve 48%
        Do not approve 52%
    2. Orel
      Orel 12 October 2017 07: 49 New
      29
      Quote: Benzorez
      Apparently I will join them.


      The one who is on TV more will win. Show Navalny 24 an hour a day, the main thing, as Putin - only from a positive side, and in a month Putin will have a 1 percentage, and Navalny will have a 50. Exaggerated of course, but true. TV today is all about us.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 12 October 2017 08: 05 New
        11
        Quote: Orel
        Show Navalny 24 hours a day, most importantly, as Putin - only on the positive side,

        That will spit the TV. fellow
        1. dauria
          dauria 12 October 2017 08: 34 New
          18
          That will spit the TV


          Do not tell ... Better remember how Luzhkov was praised and chosen. And suddenly Sobyanin. Previously unknown to anyone. And they could Pupkin, Lyapkin, Tyapkin. Orel is right - eight months before the election, the television simply “makes” the leader. It is only necessary for this time to put his acting director or deputy and "prove" how cool he is.

          Somewhere the Strugatsky had - "It's time in the institutes to introduce a course of medieval palace intrigue" (I do not remember literally)
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 12 October 2017 08: 43 New
            12
            Quote: dauria
            TV can easily make a leader

            I’ll tell you honestly, I rarely watch TV sometimes; sometimes I watch sports or movies, but at the dacha, where there are only 2 programs, I watched these talk shows sometimes, I’ve just pooled, I won’t speak for Tryukhanov, Karasevs and other bald dunce, it smells of rot. and they cause nothing but laughter. But ours is no better, on the one hand, on the other hand, that Sytin and Goizman, except disgust, do not cause anything, just don’t retouch them, that Morozov and Zheleznyak have nothing to do with wild rzhach cause, but only Zhirik pokladnaditsya and mustache. hi
          2. SERGUS
            SERGUS 12 October 2017 11: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: dauria
            Do not tell ... Better remember how Luzhkov was praised and chosen. And suddenly Sobyanin. Previously unknown to anyone. And they could Pupkin, Lyapkin, Tyapkin. Orel is right - eight months before the election, the television simply “makes” the leader. It is only necessary for this time to put his acting director or deputy and "prove" how cool he is.

            All this, so to speak, is not from a good life: you have to choose neither the best of the best, but from what you have, and even more often there is no choice at all, it seems to be formally (according to the law, you should), but in fact .. .
          3. PSih2097
            PSih2097 12 October 2017 12: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: dauria
            Somewhere the Strugatsky had - "It's time in the institutes to introduce a course of medieval palace intrigue" (I do not remember literally)

            “At the Institute, it is necessary to specifically introduce a course of feudal intrigue. And academic performance should be assessed in rebah. Better, of course, in decireb. However, where is it ...” (c) “It is difficult to be a god,” A. and B. Strugatsky.
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 09: 00 New
          13
          vovanpain Today, 08:05 ↑ New
          That will spit the TV. fellow
          Volodya, hi love good morning! The TV will not just be spat on, but broken and thrown away by her husband in the trash, not only with us, but also with all our friends.
          Well, why doesn’t it reach our liberalists that we are a totalitarian country through and through, that bullshit is alien to us and will never take root. Paraphrasing a famous phrase, we can say that the American is good, then the Russian death!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 October 2017 10: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            that the American is good, the Russian is death!

            That Russian spit on the Voivode, I would say. hi
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 10: 18 New
              11
              NEXUS Today, 10:10 ↑
              That Russian spit on the Voivode, I would say. hi
              Andrew, hi I agree, so much better! Only the “Voivode” is kind of like for internal use, for the West it’s kind of like turning on “Satan” ... Or am I messing something up ?!
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 October 2017 11: 30 New
                +5
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Andrew,

                Diana, welcome. hi
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Only the “Voivode” is kind of like for internal use, for the West it’s kind of like “Satan” spit

                The voivode is our name, so to speak native to this ICBM ... her name. And Satan is the nickname that mattresses gave her.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 12 October 2017 13: 11 New
            13
            Greetings Diana!
            I respect your position, but I think you are repainting a citizen of PVV.
            Let's take it in order, who appointed, who promoted, who his team.
            Remember these surnames Yumashev, Valoshin, Dyachenko, Deripaska, Friedman ......
            And now the team of ladies, kudrin, gref, naibulin, shuvalov, marmots, kinder-surprise, miller, sechin, kovalchuki, rotenbergs, timchenki ......
            If you support these citizens? Your business....
            The current stability is the stability of a cemetery ........
            The indigenous people are dying and replaced by migrants ....
            And now things ..., Kursk, Mir, Camran, Lourdes, monetization, forest, land and water code, offshore economy - here you can write three pages.
            I do not agitate you, just think.
            And two more small questions for those who have been drinking for another 6 years:
            Announce the pvv program and name its command. what
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 16 October 2017 16: 27 New
              0
              This is all good, but who do you propose specifically ?!
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 16 October 2017 16: 39 New
                +1
                Quote: Krabik
                This is all good, but who do you propose specifically ?!

                So, I already wrote a hundred times! In the presidency of Pavel Grudinin, and the cab.min of national trust has already been formed. Watch Boldyrev video. hi
                1. Krabik
                  Krabik 16 October 2017 17: 05 New
                  0
                  Then I watched videos about Poklonskaya, she was also put forward as president.

                  To be honest, either Putin’s successor or the one who will be able to take power by force will lead the country, otherwise nothing ...
        3. forester
          forester 12 October 2017 09: 57 New
          +4
          No, I won’t spit on the TV set, and I won’t throw it away - I’ll switch to the multichannel - “there was a dog” and I’ll watch “prostokvashino” for days)))
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 12 October 2017 12: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: forester
            No, I won’t spit on the TV set, and I won’t throw it away - I’ll switch to the multichannel - “there was a dog” and I’ll watch “prostokvashino” for days)))

            Alas, you have a much better chance of watching for days on a multichannel an article like "Peppa Pig."
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 12 October 2017 12: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Freeman
              Alas, you have a much better chance of watching for days on a multichannel an article like "Peppa Pig."

              you can watch online, for example, I already forgot when I turned on the TV, only if via HDMI from the computer ...
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 08: 14 New
        12
        So the fact of the matter is that Putin does not get off the screens ... even, excuse me, on vacation in Tuva, the film crew was sent with him fool
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 12 October 2017 08: 47 New
          20
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          So the fact of the matter is that Putin does not get off the screens ... even, excuse me, on vacation in Tuva, the film crew was sent with him

          Putin not only doesn’t get off the screens: he turns out to saddle the whole world - the Western media races talk about our president. Agree: if Putin had not been so influential, it is unlikely that these media spoke about him that way. And you suggest that we don’t cover the activities of Vladimir Vladimirovich in our country when he doesn’t leave the Western television screens? And who are you offering us to see in the box, Medvedev? So he broadcasts complacently from there. And the whole people should know how our president is resting: he does not travel around the Courchevel, but spends his holidays in his own country, thereby showing that it is possible and necessary to relax in your own country, and not over the hill! The President advertises our nature and fauna, why is this bad?
          I am such a president who is happy for his country and his people, is impressive! And I will not vote for another car for another, whatever they say to me!
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 08: 52 New
            17
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            he does not travel around the Courchevels, but spends his holidays in his own country, thereby showing that it is possible and necessary to rest in his own country, and not over the hill! The President advertises our nature and fauna, why is this bad?

            Let me ask an immodest question: where are his children resting?
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2017 08: 54 New
              10
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Let me ask an immodest question: where are his children resting?

              Let me ask you the same immodest counter-question: how do you know where the children of our president really rest? Did he tell you about this himself?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 09: 02 New
                +6
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                how do you know where the children of our president really rest? Did he tell you about this himself?

                No, however. But one of his daughters was expelled from Holland, the other seemed to marry a Korean.
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 12 October 2017 09: 09 New
                  10
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  No, however. But one of his daughters was expelled from Holland, the other seemed to marry a Korean.

                  "It seems - at the grandmother's garden!" From your comments, I realized that you are eating rumors. This is not serious.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 09: 47 New
                    +4
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    From your comments, I realized that you are eating rumors

                    These rumors are like flies.
                    1. SRC P-15
                      SRC P-15 12 October 2017 10: 13 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      These rumors are like flies.

                      You do not take into account one feature: rumors, like flies can go upside down, i.e. can be turned upside down! In your photo I see a girl supposedly similar to Putin’s daughter, Maria. But is it really a daughter, you will not say with 100% certainty? And if not, then why post this photo?
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 11: 53 New
                        +5
                        Quote: СРЦ П-15
                        supposedly similar to Putin’s daughter, Maria.

                        good It's like about the prosecutor: "it's not him, it's like."
                      2. Alikos
                        Alikos 12 October 2017 18: 38 New
                        +1
                        Quote: СРЦ П-15
                        Is it really a daughter? You won’t argue with 100% certainty? And if not, then why post this photo?

                        I don’t understand the SRSC, that you intercede like that, is your wife or something?
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            2. Soho
              Soho 12 October 2017 09: 00 New
              +5
              Mordvin 3 Today, 08: 52 ↑
              Quote: SRC P-15
              he does not travel around the Courchevels, but spends his holidays in his own country, thereby showing that it is possible and necessary to rest in his own country, and not over the hill! The President advertises our nature and fauna, why is this bad?
              Let me ask an immodest question: where are his children resting?

              just don’t have to sing a mournful song about "and their children ..." at a time when 80% of Russians themselves prefer to relax not in the patriotic Crimea, but in Turkey or Thailand.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 09: 07 New
                +5
                Quote: Soho
                80% of Russians themselves prefer to relax not in the patriotic Crimea, but in Turkey or Thailand.

                I prefer the Urals. There are only crayfish to fig. Just go with a flashlight and collect. Class! fellow
            3. Alikos
              Alikos 12 October 2017 18: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Let me ask an immodest question: where are his children resting?


              !!! )))
            4. Lyuba1965_01
              Lyuba1965_01 12 October 2017 19: 27 New
              +2
              Let me ask you a question: where are your children resting?
          2. Gransasso
            Gransasso 12 October 2017 08: 59 New
            +8
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Putin not only doesn’t get off the screens: he turns out to saddle the whole world - the Western media races talk about our president. Agree: if Putin had not been so influential, it is unlikely that these media spoke about him that way. And you suggest that we don’t cover the activities of Vladimir Vladimirovich in our country when he doesn’t leave the Western television screens?



            Who told you such passions? ... I can assure you that you were brutally deceived ... about the problems of Africa and some African leaders in the local press they write an order of magnitude more ... yes and on TV ... do not create illusions ..
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2017 09: 12 New
              +4
              Quote: Gransasso
              Who told you such passions?

              Here is what Forbes magazine writes:
              "For the fourth year in a row, the most influential person in the world - the president of Russia - has been spreading the influence of his country to almost every corner of the globe," this is how the magazine describes the Russian leader.
              Tell me not to believe this either? Https: //rg.ru/2016/12/14/putin-stal-chelov
              ekom-goda-po-versii-forbes-chetvertyj-raz-podriad
              . Htm
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 12 October 2017 11: 52 New
                0
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                Here is what Forbes magazine writes:
                "For the fourth year in a row, the most influential person in the world - the president of Russia - has been spreading the influence of his country to almost every corner of the globe," this is how the magazine describes the Russian leader.

                Yeah, all this is nonsense, soon Forbes will write that Putin took second place among the "most influential" Kim Jong-un laughing . All this in order to catch hysteria and continue to try to isolate Russia.
            2. Kent0001
              Kent0001 12 October 2017 21: 25 New
              0
              Well, yes, in Europe it’s better to write about Africa, right now it’s very important laughing
          3. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 October 2017 10: 12 New
            +5
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I will not vote for another car for another, whatever they say to me!

            Well, if Kuzhegetovich will become a candidate, then I agree and vote for him. Although, to be honest, I come to such a thought, or maybe we need to choose Gil once, so that he taught the Democrats to love their homeland.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2017 10: 20 New
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              Well, if Kuzhegetovich will become a candidate, then I agree and vote for him.

              I have nothing against Shoigu, but he has already come to almost everything ready: army reform has begun even before him. As he would have shown himself as president, for me so far there is a mystery behind seven seals.
              Zhirinovsky had already missed his time, too late.
            2. long in stock.
              long in stock. 12 October 2017 13: 16 New
              +3
              it was like that. he himself, like a devil from incense, ran from the presidency and gave all votes to Yeltsin. he doesn’t ... he knows his work and doesn’t climb higher. he’s so good ....
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 October 2017 13: 25 New
                +4
                Quote: long in stock.
                it was like that. he himself, like a devil from incense, ran from the presidency and gave all votes to Yeltsin. he doesn’t ... he knows his work and doesn’t climb higher. he’s so good ....

                Shoigu is a wonderful EXECUTOR and business executive. Lavrov is a great diplomat, but not a strategist, with little understanding of army affairs. I have already said that we need a leader who is familiar with both politics and the army (its needs). And we only have such people in the corresponding services, such as the FSB, FSK, etc. .. it’s more expensive to set up a “civilian” for ourselves, as defense cuts will begin, and friendship with the USA and so on will begin. And therefore, maybe I'm wrong, I do not pretend to be the "last resort" in this matter, if the GDP leaves, it will leave the receiver precisely from those services. In addition, among scouts and counterintelligence, the feeling of love for the Motherland is very acute due to the specifics of their work.
                1. Alikos
                  Alikos 12 October 2017 18: 46 New
                  +1
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: long in stock.
                  it was like that. he himself, like a devil from incense, ran from the presidency and gave all votes to Yeltsin. he doesn’t ... he knows his work and doesn’t climb higher. he’s so good ....

                  Shoigu is a wonderful EXECUTOR and business executive. Lavrov is a great diplomat, but not a strategist, with little understanding of army affairs. I have already said that we need a leader who is familiar with both politics and the army (its needs). And we only have such people in the corresponding services, such as the FSB, FSK, etc. .. it’s more expensive to set up a “civilian” for ourselves, as defense cuts will begin, and friendship with the USA and so on will begin. And therefore, maybe I'm wrong, I do not pretend to be the "last resort" in this matter, if the GDP leaves, it will leave the receiver precisely from those services. In addition, among scouts and counterintelligence, the feeling of love for the Motherland is very acute due to the specifics of their work.

                  No matter where!
                  We need a man who will be turned to face the simple Russian people, and to the oligarchs and other capitalists to the ass.
                  And not vice versa...
                2. Tishka
                  Tishka 13 October 2017 00: 46 New
                  +1
                  So why then does our president so dislike his people? Salaries, meager, pensions, even less, the collapse of the ruble arranged by the Central Bank, he once again offers to leave Nabiulina, who invests money, in the American housekeeper at the helm! Why did it freeze, 200000 jobs that were taken not by Russians, but by residents of other countries! From the election program, to its logical conclusion, nothing came of it except the increase in the value of taxes, oh yes, new taxes appeared, due to which, the country's GDP grew!
          4. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 11: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And the whole people should know how our president is resting: he does not travel around the Courchevel, but spends his holidays in his country, thereby showing that it is possible and necessary to rest in one's homeland, and not over the hill! The President advertises our nature and fauna, why is this bad?

            this is already a private life, sorry - you can devote an information field to some other events. And so, according to your logic, it is necessary in the morning to tell how the GDP fell asleep, what was for breakfast, what, sorry, he had a chair - well, so that people could calmly go about their business all day. Again advertising our medicine and food
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2017 13: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              this is already a private life, sorry - you can devote an information field to some other events. And so, according to your logic, it is necessary in the morning to tell how the GDP fell asleep, what was for breakfast, what, sorry, he had a chair - well, so that people could calmly go about their business all day. Again advertising our medicine and food

              Do not confuse my logic with your emphasis to the extreme! I do not urge to cover Putin’s hourly life and even less to make him a pizza advertiser, for example! He is not Gorbachev, he will not go down to that! But to make sure that the people know how our president spends his vacation and where - it is in his power. And I do not see anything reprehensible in showing us how Putin’s working days and his rest. And the president’s rest, I think, is loudly said: I’m sure at the same time he is solving many regional and global problems that are not known to us. Much, if not a large part of it (rest), remains behind the "frame".
        2. SERGUS
          SERGUS 12 October 2017 11: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          So the fact of the matter is that Putin does not get off the screens ...

          Okay, let's at least see Putin or something, and America with its impeachment of Trump is already tired smile
      3. Soho
        Soho 12 October 2017 08: 55 New
        +4
        Orel Today, 07:49 AM
        TV today is everything for us.

        and you pass this saying as a deep thought? Eka is unseen. Well, all over the world, it is the media (and now the Internet has been added to them) that shape the consciousness of the masses. By the way, Navalny is very actively self-promoting just through the Internet (the TV box is closed to him). This is the reason for the more youth age category of his supporters (the so-called “bulk”)
      4. SPACE
        SPACE 12 October 2017 09: 30 New
        11
        Quote: Orel
        TV today is everything for us.

        TV decides everything only for idiots.
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          1. bober1982
            bober1982 12 October 2017 12: 07 New
            +3
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Hats off, in the sense of knixen

            Listen, Diana Ilyina, in the sense of knixen - This is from the noble etiquette, according to your classification, of the bakers. Is it possible so, this is duplicity. Where is your class principle? What do I need to teach you ....... well done, comrade Demian
          2. SPACE
            SPACE 12 October 2017 12: 57 New
            +3
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            BRAVO

            yes soldier
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Hats off, in the sense of knixen

            request what belay fellow wink

            love
        2. SERGUS
          SERGUS 12 October 2017 12: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: SPACE
          TV decides everything only for idiots.

          I agree, only "not idiots" need to be nurtured, but with us:
          The most remarkable thing is that 3% of respondents were reinforced concretely motivated and to the question for whom you vote if Vladimir Putin does not take part in the elections, they clearly answered: “Putin”.
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 12 October 2017 13: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: SPACE
          TV decides everything only for idiots.

          I agree! wink
      5. freddyk
        freddyk 12 October 2017 11: 29 New
        +1
        And what are the positive aspects of Navalny? Let them show.
      6. spirit
        spirit 12 October 2017 13: 24 New
        +3
        Already not, and therefore, after choosing the king since 18, the Internet will be strictly censored, the slave does not have his own right)))
      7. Overlock
        Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 15 New
        0
        it was in Kiev
    3. SERGUS
      SERGUS 12 October 2017 11: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      Apparently I will join them.

      I think many, including myself, will do the same, and this is not due to the fact that everything is good, but because of the absence of at least some alternative.
    4. AA17
      AA17 12 October 2017 12: 53 New
      +3
      Dear, Gas Cutter. You have a strange desire to join the unknown. Do you really have no interest in how the President will report on his previous term? Surely you are not curious what program of development of our economy the candidate for the presidency of Russia will offer. ("... What will happen to the Motherland and to us ..."). What will be the pension, what will happen to medicine, education, etc. If this does not interest you, then everything is fine with you and you are firmly convinced that it will not be worse. So you belong to that category of people who are confident in their future. And I have it all vaguely. I do not know what will happen tomorrow. Therefore, I would like to see the programs of candidates for the President of Russia. And such news does not make me proud of my homeland: "... In August 2017, 119 luxury cars were sold in Russia, which is 31% more than in August 2016, the Avtostat agency reported on October 11th "..." IA REGNUM.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 12 October 2017 12: 58 New
        +4
        And such news does not make me proud of my homeland: "... In August 2017, 119 luxury cars were sold in Russia, which is 31% more than in August 2016, the Avtostat agency reported on October 11th "..."


        read the news on sdelanounas.ru

        It’s time to stop reading the yellow press with their collections of materials designed for either imbeciles or hydrocephalus. good there is a choice and selection you can choose yourself
        1. AA17
          AA17 12 October 2017 13: 38 New
          +3
          Dear, Mr. Petrov. I read the news on done. To get an objective picture of the world, I look at various information. You will not find this information on Dasunas. I would like to receive your comment on this news:
          "... The outflow of capital from Russia for 9 months has doubled. The outflow of capital from Russia has accelerated more than twice, it follows from the materials of the Central Bank. According to the regulator, in January-September 2017 the volume of net export of capital by private capital amounted to $ 21 billion against $ 10 billion for the first nine months of last year ... ... “In contrast to the situation in the corresponding period last year, net capital outflow was generated by banking sector operations, which significantly reduced external liabilities. Capital flows associated with operations of other sectors were generally a balanced nature, ”the Bank of Russia said in a statement ...“ According to preliminary data from the Central Bank, the net capital outflow for the eight months of 2017 was at $ 12,1 billion, however, over the first nine months, the estimate of the net capital outflow rose to $ 21 billion, which indicates a sharp jump in this indicator in September, we attribute this to instability in the Russian banking sector and the possible withdrawal of investors from Bank bond market: for nine months, Russian banks reported a decrease in external liabilities of $ 25 billion, while the volume of financial assets fell by only $ 5 billion for the same period, "Alfa-Bank explains ..."
          "... The rise in oil prices to maximums over 2 years increased the inflow of oil and gas revenues to Russia, but the currency received in the country almost completely left the Russian Federation in the form of capital export by the private sector ..." Why would this be?
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 17 New
            0
            You won’t get an answer from Mr. Petrov; he has one line and it is correct. He watches TV and does not read vile newspapers
            1. AA17
              AA17 13 October 2017 16: 42 New
              0
              Yes, dear Overlock. I did not wait for an answer. This sudden outflow of capital to us (to Russian citizens has shown, and maybe proved.) - "... the express of foreign exchange earnings from the export of resources, which some are proud of, and the expenses that the Central Bank" finds it difficult to explain, "moves almost bypassing the pockets of citizens. What , in general, it is logical, given that the country's resources to the pockets of its citizens are related indirectly ... ... "(c). Here it is the main message. How much currency has come, so much has gone. Although the real Russian oil was shipped to foreign customers. Like in that joke: "... It seems to be all right, but there is a feeling - that we are at @ bali"
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 12 October 2017 13: 07 New
      +1
      Medvedev will come - NATO will definitely begin to bomb the Donbass for a handshake. belay
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    7. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 12 October 2017 14: 54 New
      0
      Gas Cutter Today, 05:48. Whom they will appoint to be ,, chosen, ”that will be.  yes
    8. Blombir
      Blombir 12 October 2017 15: 54 New
      +1
      Levada center is a liberal office, the mouthpiece of the enemies of the people. Provocateurs and double-dealing.
    9. Kent0001
      Kent0001 12 October 2017 18: 53 New
      0
      ..... but I have not decided yet, well, in the sense of going or not going (crawl, hobble, etc, etc.).
    10. whinny
      whinny 12 October 2017 19: 07 New
      0
      I agree with you. No options at the moment.
  2. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 12 October 2017 06: 02 New
    15
    Dmitry Anatolyevich well done. Now he’s carried away with new things. He’s dancing. Life in Russia is raspberry. There was an iPhone, he became a dancer. Dima once led us, and even as a wedding general, it was more than enough. But there are alarming statistics. there is no alternative worthy of Putin.
    1. Bastinda
      Bastinda 12 October 2017 06: 37 New
      22
      Putin will never tolerate, close to himself, or God forbid above himself. So the Medvedevs and other nondescript “personalities” come forward. Well, who will seriously vote for Zhirinovsky or Zyuganov? Bulk is so compromised that there is nowhere else to go. Among 140 million there are no worthy people? There is, we just don’t know about them, they are not shown on TV, and will not be until the state has a monopoly on the media. As soon as they declared their desire to participate in the presidential election, uncontrollable candidates (Khodorkovsky, Luzhkov) immediately followed a tough reaction, and where are they now? Notice, I'm not saying that they are good, just out of control.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 12 October 2017 07: 03 New
        10
        Putin will never tolerate, next to himself equal, or God forbid above himself

        Let me ask you what this is expressed in and who Putin would "eat" in this case, who would be equal or higher than him? By the way, do you mean growth or something else by the word above?
        1. Bastinda
          Bastinda 12 October 2017 07: 14 New
          13
          And growth, too, instead of himself, he put forward Medvedev, a small person, and not noticeable, in every sense. Psychology is a rather cruel science, and children's and youthful complexes simply do not work. I already wrote who I ate (I’m not saying that they are good), just out of control.
          1. Smog
            Smog 12 October 2017 07: 40 New
            +8
            Quote: Bastinda
            And growth too

            Well, if by this criterion it is selected, then this is Prokhorov. Already 205cm.
            We will build the whole ё-country of Russia, unless of course we choose. laughing
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 12 October 2017 08: 11 New
              +6
              Quote: Smog
              Well, if by this criterion it is selected, then this is Prokhorov.

              Kostya drinks hi Duc chose it already in 2012, then they saw how long plywood flew over Paris. laughing hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 08: 19 New
                +5
                Quote: vovanpain
                Duc chose it already in 2012, then they saw how long plywood flew over Paris.

                But how can he not fly by, if he wanted to increase the working day to 12 hours? Clown with Pugacheva. That and EBNa supported, and Prokhor. And this ... forgot how his ... Ismailov, or not? laughing
              2. Smog
                Smog 12 October 2017 08: 43 New
                +8
                Volodya drinks soldier Duc colleague Bastinda asked the candidate taller, so I picked up (do not think bad, the candidacy) laughing And if we rummage around basketball and volleyball teams .... Oooo, we’ll find some candidates ...
                And as people say,
                The mind is not in growth, but in the head ..
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 08: 59 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Smog
                  And if we rummage around basketball and volleyball teams .... Oooo, we’ll find some candidates ...

                  Prokhor actually kick-boxer ... Oh no, I'm lying. Thekwandist he. hi
                  1. Smog
                    Smog 12 October 2017 09: 10 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Prokhor actually kickboxer ..

                    He is a multi-station, a multi-station lol
                    President of the Russian Biathlon Union in 2008-2014, owner of the Brooklyn Nets basketball team of the National Basketball Association
                    So basketball is very close to him hi .
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 09: 15 New
                      +3
                      He actually went down to the mine. They wanted to kill him with a crowbar, but he began to wave his feet. Together with security. angry
                      1. Smog
                        Smog 12 October 2017 09: 21 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        He actually went down to the mine

                        What for? Because its there
                        they wanted to kill with a crowbar
                        what ??
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        he began to wave his legs.

                        In mine? Kicked? what
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Together with security.

                        Good for you! good laughing Protection well done laughing good
                      2. Alikos
                        Alikos 12 October 2017 18: 57 New
                        +3
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        He actually went down to the mine. They wanted to kill him with a crowbar, but he began to wave his feet. Together with security. angry

                        It’s a pity that they didn’t succeed ...
                2. andj61
                  andj61 12 October 2017 12: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Smog
                  Volodya drinks soldier Duc colleague Bastinda asked the candidate taller, so I picked up (do not think bad, the candidacy) laughing And if we rummage around basketball and volleyball teams .... Oooo, we’ll find some candidates ...
                  And as people say,
                  The mind is not in growth, but in the head ..


                  With the growth of many, the order, but not with everyone's head.
                  Why, for example, Shoigu or Lavrov are bad?
                  And as for plywood over Paris - an aviator named Auguste Fanier never existed; its plane crash as a result of a collision with the Eiffel Tower was not registered. True, at the beginning of the last century, the president of France, Fallier. They say an aviation enthusiast. There were a lot of cartoons on him, and on aviation occasions too. On one, it is in the form of an airship with a propeller in the rear. On the other - riding an airplane over Paris with a keg of wine and a Gallic cockerel on the steering wheel. Moreover, this second was part of a series in which various European rulers were depicted riding on airplanes. And with Nicholas II in this series the picture was: an airplane with bells, a box of caviar tied to the tail ... Corresponding postcards are not uncommon, they are sold for ten dollars apiece at online auctions.

                3. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 12 October 2017 12: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Smog
                  Volodya, So the colleague of Bastinda asked the candidate to be taller, so I picked up (do not think bad- the candidacy) And if we fumble on the basketball and volleyball teams .... Oooo, we’ll find some candidates ...

                  ... Kolya, Kolya Valuev, and he is in United Russia
            2. Bastinda
              Bastinda 12 October 2017 10: 01 New
              +1
              You do not quite understand me correctly, I do not propose to choose according to height or length ..... I just talked about complexes and craving for power.
              1. Smog
                Smog 12 October 2017 10: 17 New
                +4
                Quote: Bastinda
                misunderstood me,

                So I still do not understand.
                Quote: Bastinda
                I was just talking about complexes, and a craving for power.

                So who has more thirst for power? High or low?
                Quote: Bastinda
                choose by height, or by length

                And along the length of ettoooo, a proposal would be very antires. Then for sure- a boa constrictor.! As many as thirty-eight parrots !!!!! laughing
                1. Bastinda
                  Bastinda 12 October 2017 11: 16 New
                  +7
                  Well ... Stalin, too, was not very tall, and he loved power very much.
                  But what did he do 1924 - 1939, and 1945 - 1953? And now 17 years is not a term? Is Russia getting up off its knees? They got to the extreme “Urya Patriots” who did not want to see their problems, and dutifully tasting chewing gum from TV.
                  1. Smog
                    Smog 12 October 2017 11: 52 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Bastinda
                    Stalin, too, was not very tall, and was very fond of power.

                    Napoleon was also not tall. And how much he loved power, how he loved. And our Cossacks visited Paris.
                    And he himself rested on the island of St. Helena in captivity. And that is a fact. But, but for some reason the French do not curse him, although he brought a lot of troubles to their country. For this is their story, somewhere good, somewhere bad, but history. But you won’t erase words from it, just like from a song. But you are trying, using the example of Stalin, to stick out only the bad, forgetting and extinct the good that he did. And this is our story with all its pros and cons. And you can’t throw words out of it, just like a song. You can’t build a country that is normal, according to the principle, I read here, I don’t read here, but here, they wrapped the fish.
                    Quote: Bastinda
                    We got to the extreme, "Urya Patriots"

                    Pro-Westerners got it - liberals creep in front of “Western” “values” in the form of toilets for transgender people, leading schoolchildren with “push-button” iPhones of the latest model to “protest” marches and charring their homeland and their history.
                    If we continue to act this way, then we will definitely measure the length of politicians in parrots.
                    And patriots, without your -Urya, see problems inside the country.
                    1. Bastinda
                      Bastinda 12 October 2017 12: 39 New
                      +4
                      Well, in general, I just cited two periods when Stalin restored the country. And the destruction and problems were much more than after 2000.
          2. SERGUS
            SERGUS 12 October 2017 12: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: Bastinda
            instead he put forward Medvedev

            Now, I don’t think that there was anyone but a child with a phone.
      2. SOF
        SOF 12 October 2017 07: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: Bastinda
        Khodorkovsky, Luzhkov

        fellow are these adits equal that they will not tolerate? .... laughing this is a joke of humor!
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 12 October 2017 09: 04 New
          12
          Quote: SOF
          are these adits equal that they will not tolerate? .... laughing this is a joke of humor!

          Putin is panicky afraid of competition, so he removes everyone who can, at least hypothetically, create it. Remember how Putin proposed Belykh exchange for the governor, so that he withdrew from the presidential election. Just as Putin took Rogozin out of the race, on an absurd pretext, never letting him become, even a candidate! Exactly from here, Putin does not risk entering into public disputes of candidates, realizing that he will look very faded.
          1. SOF
            SOF 12 October 2017 09: 18 New
            +5
            Quote: Stas157
            How Putin removed Rogozin from the race

            ... oh yes, another worthy competitor!
            People burn today good
            Competition with whom? Awww? Show me a competitor ....
            Show me at least one politician, WORLDWIDE, which is capable of answering a bunch of not always convenient questions for four hours in a row.
            And public debate is a complete hat, because the opponent will be quite predictably engaged in POPULism on camera.
            1. SERGUS
              SERGUS 12 October 2017 12: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: SOF
              Show me at least one politician, WORLDWIDE, which is capable of answering a bunch of not always convenient questions for four hours in a row.
              And public debate is a complete hat, because the opponent will be quite predictably engaged in POPULism on camera.

              Answer 4 hours to questions is not the most important thing. Appreciated for deeds, not words. And his answers are often mediocre, although I will not hide, in the modern world I don’t know politicians who can vividly answer tricky questions.
              1. SOF
                SOF 12 October 2017 12: 33 New
                +3
                Quote: SERGUS
                Appreciated for deeds, not words. And his answers are often mediocre

                ...keyword appreciate - now re-read the article of this top, with regard to ratings, and understand that "mediocre" - this is exclusively your opinion - the opinion of not the largest minority ... hi
                1. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 12 October 2017 13: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: SOF
                  ... they appreciate the key word - now re-read the article of this top, regarding the ratings, and understand that "mediocre" - this is exclusively your opinion - the opinion of not the largest minority ...

                  Let's put aside all this demagogy and face it: those figures that the GDP receives in the elections (I won’t take social polls into account at all) are slightly inflated, but by no means do I cast doubt on its legitimacy, it’s more like an airbag , reinsurance, he would have managed without him. And I vote for him, but this is not due to the fact that he is a brilliant leader who made the country a superpower over 17 years, bl-bl-bl-bl and other idiots, but he just has to choose the lesser of all evils. Do not rush me to stigmatize that they say he is an American spy, I do not deny that the GDP has done quite a lot and is useful for Russia, I just try to really look at things, and not pray to God for the figures of some first opinion poll that came across. Good luck to you hi
                  1. SOF
                    SOF 12 October 2017 14: 01 New
                    +1
                    Do not believe it, but argue with this I’m not going to state your opinion, I even agree in many ways, but in many ways and vice versa. I think that for the period that he was at the helm (both before and after) it is IMPOSSIBLE to do everything and everywhere, especially if he has so many “cool” helpers.
                    ... I am convinced that none of all previous rulers could have done it here. And, to be honest, no one did it. Everyone left a skeleton in the closet.
                    ... because: where it is thin, there it breaks; you cannot understand Russia with your mind; and ... "... if you kill everyone, then who will rule the king-father?" A. Menshikov
                    1. SERGUS
                      SERGUS 12 October 2017 15: 00 New
                      +2
                      Quote: SOF
                      especially if he has so many "cool" helpers

                      Well, he chose this team for himself, he appointed the prime minister (second person of the state!) A person who speaks all sorts of nonsense to the whole country, including the negative attitude towards society in society. If the factory produces defective products, neither a bad turner and milling machine is to blame, and the director, who did not build a quality control system, did not act on the turner and milling machine with a fine, for example, or in the end did not replace them. Everything should be based on the principle of unity of command, and responsibility for everything is primarily the responsibility of the leader!
                      1. SOF
                        SOF 12 October 2017 15: 45 New
                        +2
                        ... certainly, but again BUT.
                        It was smooth on paper ...
                        Remind yourself what was your attitude to Medvedev in 2005? And now?
                        Remember that throughout its entire period of time, from time to time, GDP regularly leads completely different people: Rogozin was always beside him, then Dvorkovich, then Sobyanin was there where he was not supposed to be in status? This does not lead you to any thoughts?
                        It is hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, if it is not there, among other things.
                        ... it seems to me that a possible solution, in the future, will be found and he will see me at the ONF, which is under the wing of the president himself. A huge, not soiled and really active personnel reserve.
            2. SERGUS
              SERGUS 13 October 2017 10: 37 New
              0
              Quote: SOF
              It was smooth on paper ...

              That's why in our country there is still no order, because on paper we have one thing, but in fact ...
              Quote: SOF
              Remind yourself what was your attitude to Medvedev in 2005?

              I never noticed anything worthwhile in him, he always did what was told to him from above, even if he showed some hope in 2005, sorry 12! years have passed since then. Astakhov, for example, was removed when he said nonsense to the whole country, why can not we remove the prime minister?
              Quote: SOF
              Remember that throughout its entire period of time, from time to time, GDP regularly leads completely different people: Rogozin was always beside him, then Dvorkovich, then Sobyanin was there where he was not supposed to be in status? This does not lead you to any thoughts?

              It leads. For 17 years, GDP has been leading people, just like the prophet Moses; for another 25 years he has been leading, you look and we will find a normal prime minister.
              Quote: SOF
              It is hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, if it is not there, among other things.
              "... if you kill everyone, then who will rule the king-father?"

              Are you serious ? Do you really think that we have a country of fools and a normal person for a leadership position in the daytime with fire you will not find? The whole country, all the thieves and embezzlers, it is useless to fight, only you cross the whole country, kill and rule who will not be! So what do you think?
              Quote: SOF
              ... it seems to me that a possible solution, in the future, will be found and he sees me at ONF

              Since what year has the ONF been working? Since 2011? 6 years have passed (a whole presidential term!), Well, yes, maybe in the next 60 years he (ONF) will give birth to us a normal prime minister and finance minister. This is in the best case, if the ONF does not turn into United Russia, they collect there all kinds of Poklonsky who discuss films instead of work.
              1. SOF
                SOF 13 October 2017 13: 02 New
                +1
                Quote: SERGUS
                It was smooth on paper ...

                translate: "speak"- Do not toss the bags. It can be otherwise: Everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing a battle from the side.
                It is sad that my call to think led exclusively to the eruption of sarcasm on a biblical theme.
                Stay tuned hi
                1. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 13 October 2017 14: 34 New
                  0
                  Quote: SOF
                  Stay tuned

                  The purpose of the dispute is not to impose your opinion on anyone, but to come to the truth winked , in any case, when entering into a conversation with you, I drew attention to some aspects that I had previously ignored.
                  Thanks for the dialogue. hi
                  1. SOF
                    SOF 13 October 2017 14: 37 New
                    +1
                    Quote: SERGUS
                    Thanks for the dialogue.

                    Mutually!
          2. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 09: 22 New
            14
            Stas157
            Remember how Putin proposed Belykh exchange for the governor, so that he withdrew from the presidential election.
            I now describe with laughter ... laughing laughing laughing And what was Bely’s rating ?! Do not strain, the rating of Belykh was exactly the same as that of the party from which he was exhibited, that is, the garbage!
            Do not bring nonsense, there is not a single candidate among the liberals who can overcome at least the 5% barrier ...
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 12 October 2017 09: 52 New
              +5
              Quote: SOF
              .. oh yes, another worthy competitor!

              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Now I’m describing myself with laughter ... And what was Bely’s rating ?!

              But exchange offered however! Right during the election campaign. Why do this, do not share your thoughts?
              And Rogozin is the only worthy condidat for this role. Putin is well aware of this. At first he didn’t allow him before the election, then he brought him closer to himself, and now the company is making fun of him - the crowd is happy to support this!
              Quote: SOF
              And public debate is a complete hat, because the opponent will be quite predictably engaged in POPULism on camera.

              Putin is so afraid of this hat that he violated even the mandatory rules for the promotion of presidential candidates.
              1. SOF
                SOF 12 October 2017 10: 00 New
                +3
                Quote: Stas157
                Rogozin is the only worthy condid

                Quote: Stas157
                making fun of a company

                ... and did not a worthy candidate himself create a bunch of reasons for his ridicule?
                One curator of the cosmodrome construction site is worth it. Until the king arrived, the horse did not roll there.
                Do you remember trampolines?
                And from the recent history of the aircraft carrier?
                Do you know what prevents a bad dancer from dancing? hi This is it ...
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 12 October 2017 10: 21 New
                  +4
                  Quote: SOF
                  One curator of the cosmodrome construction site is worth it.

                  It was Rogozin who initiated more than a hundred criminal cases at the cosmodrome.
                  Quote: SOF
                  Do you remember trampolines?

                  I remember! At first, everyone enthusiastically repeated this after Rogozin, and then they began to poke him.
                  Quote: SOF
                  And from the recent history of the aircraft carrier?
                  Then Rogozin is absolutely right. Russia has competencies for the construction of an aircraft carrier. There is not only state will and money for this. Everything else is there!
                  Quote: SOF
                  Do you know what prevents a bad dancer from dancing?

                  Everyone can have mistakes, but we must admit that Rogozin is the best of those who were before him from the curators of the military-industrial complex in modern Russia! It was under Rogozin that the military construction of our army and navy began. Not?
                  1. SOF
                    SOF 12 October 2017 12: 04 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Stas157
                    It was under Rogozin that the military construction of our army and navy began.

                    ... no doubt. Everything was just confirmed with the fist of the supreme at every meeting on this topic.
                    Quote: Stas157
                    It was Rogozin who initiated more than a hundred criminal cases at the cosmodrome.

                    ... remind me, please, and this was before the builders phoned the direct line and complained that they had not been paid for their salary for six months. Or maybe before the GDP arrived at the first launch, and there .... the launch had to be postponed.

                    Quote: Stas157
                    I remember! At first, everyone enthusiastically repeated this after Rogozin, and then they began to poke him.

                    ...right. It was so. Yes, that's only if you think that the Americans are able to offer a trampoline instead of the Union, then have a nucleus in the nuclei to realize this idea. Or at least agree with whom it is necessary to make such statements before carrying nonsense.
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Russia has competencies for the construction of an aircraft carrier. There is not only state will and money for this.

                    ... everything can be. There can be no will, and money, and also, which is of little importance, the shipyard ... Yes. No shipyard. The fact that he led there on a shoulder under construction, so I forgot to ask private traders whose money it is under construction to ask?
                    And then - if everything is so a flag in his hands - he could have built it.

                    Quote: Stas157
                    Everyone can have mistakes, but we must admit ...

                    ... so he recognized them, attaching his child to the trough ....

                    In general, as for me, the uncle is not bad, with charisma, but unfortunately he does not pull on the leader of one sixth of the land. IMHO ...
            2. SPACE
              SPACE 12 October 2017 11: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              there is not a single candidate among the liberals who can overcome at least the 5% barrier ...

              They have no people, except perhaps the American)))
            3. spirit
              spirit 12 October 2017 13: 33 New
              +4
              In my opinion, you are talking nonsense) LeBral has been in power for 18 years laughing or Putin Communist?
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 12 October 2017 13: 10 New
        +1
        A significant event that Neverov took away from the bear EP - the "party" of officials. Now he will be holding out the mass of property to his corefan Volodin, who has privatized the State Duma.
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 12 October 2017 06: 54 New
      16
      There is no alternative, no worthy of Putin
      And before the appointment of Putin, did anyone hear about him (Putin)?
      You can draw an analogy - Fyodor Emelianenko was the invincible Last Emperor, but he was ransacked! Karelin was also invincible. The only difference is that Emelianenko climbs into the corral again, and Karelin made the right decision without hesitation. Nothing is eternal...
      1. SERGUS
        SERGUS 12 October 2017 12: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: BecmepH
        There is no alternative, no worthy of Putin
        And before the appointment of Putin, did anyone hear about him (Putin)?

        I agree to all 200. And these are the questions that are being asked: “Call me at least one person who could ...”, but no one will, because we are shown on TV Medvedev, Chubais and Zhirinovsky, but that doesn’t mean that there are none.
        Quote: BecmepH
        You can draw an analogy - Fyodor Emelianenko was the invincible Last Emperor, but he was ransacked!

        I’ll draw another analogy - Brezhnev: he was also an irreplaceable person, as a result, it was from the end of his reign that a political crisis arose in the USSR, in Russia now there are manifestations of it. By the way, we call the time now stagnation, and the current state of affairs is called stability.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 08: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Dima once already led us, and even as a wedding general, but this was more than enough

      Do not blame the musician, pah, iPhone, I mean .. He dances, as he can. crying
    4. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 12 October 2017 08: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      no worthy of Putin

      Yes, he has hockey, naked belly and Siberian Cranes, and then there are some dances)))
      With the same wedding general Medvedev, after 08.08.08 we went to bow to half Europe to negotiate and didn’t even dare to fart in the direction of North Korea, but now they authorize each one. That's foreign policy so foreign policy. There is no alternative)))
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 12 October 2017 08: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: forty-eighth
        That's foreign policy so foreign policy.

        Well, yes, yes. Only iPhone is the death of Libya, and Putin is the independence of Syria, that's all. laughing
        1. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 12 October 2017 09: 04 New
          +4
          And Medvedev is the independence of Abkhazia and the salvation of South Ossetia, and bald is the death of Ukraine and forgiven debts to Africans. Political and real impotent.
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              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 12 October 2017 10: 33 New
                +6
                Quote: forty-eighth
                You are already projecting your wet fantasies into reality - you rather need qualified specialists

                Or maybe you need to go there? To be rude to a lady all the best from the gateway, but few daredevils say this in the eye. negative You are just an ordinary cowardly fellow, Yes, and project your wet dreams onto a mirror.
                Quote: forty-eighth
                But I'll take care of your snot and stink when Dmitry Anatolyevich stays in the ministerial chair.

                So we are already having fun looking at your snot and stink. laughing
                Quote: forty-eighth
                Political and real impotent.

                Did you hold a candle? fellow That Medvedev, that Putin has children, and probably no woman wants to have a business with you, and who is impotent fellow Yes, and here you have a snack.
                Impotent on a young man. wink
                1. forty-eighth
                  forty-eighth 12 October 2017 10: 53 New
                  +6
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  To be rude to a lady is all the best from the gateway, but few daredevils say this in the eye.

                  I still haven’t really reached her gateway. And I am talking with cattle always exactly in the tone in which they deserve, regardless of gender.
                  And about courage - you know better from your sofa.
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  Did you hold a candle? fellow What Medvedev has, Putin has children

                  Why do I need to hold a candle if my wife escaped from it in all white light. And Peskov said that Russia is Putin’s wife. Such, you know, is a transparent reference to Elizabeth I, with her well-known problems.
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 12 October 2017 10: 57 New
                    +6
                    Quote: forty-eighth
                    And I’m always talking with cattle in exactly the same tone,

                    You are self-critical and this is laudable, so not all is lost. Py. Sy. I would like to see how you would talk with Diana in person laughing On the Internet, everyone is bold. wink
                  2. SPACE
                    SPACE 12 October 2017 12: 01 New
                    +4
                    Quote: forty-eighth
                    And I always talk with cattle exactly in the tone in which they deserve

                    No other than the aristocrat caught, and 48 seems to be an indicator of IQ. People are not indifferent, they will appreciate it!
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 12 October 2017 13: 17 New
                      +5
                      Quote: SPACE
                      Just like an aristocrat got caught,

                      good Blue blood, but .....
                      Quote: SPACE
                      48 apparently IQ

                      laughing
                      1. SPACE
                        SPACE 12 October 2017 15: 32 New
                        +1
                        it will not be enough

                        Maybe he appreciated himself? lol
                  3. True
                    True 12 October 2017 12: 25 New
                    +5
                    What kind of people are you, zaputintsy. He was not rude to you, but you are all trying to insult him. Reread the branch. This is kapets. Cosmos, here you are, judging by your worthless. The vacuum in your head. And you, Vova Payne, are probably not interested in women at all. Only pain and Vova!
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 12 October 2017 13: 22 New
                      +6
                      I've looked from the side
                      The beginning is good, do not take away, do not add.
                      Quote: True
                      He didn’t be rude to you

                      What next......?????
                      Quote: True
                      Cosmos, here you are, judging by your worthless.

                      Quote: True
                      And you, Vova Payne, are probably not interested in women at all.

                      Well, how can you denounce a person in rudeness, if a second later, you yourself go down to this. Do you agree some strange line of behavior on your part? Don't you find?
                    2. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 12 October 2017 14: 03 New
                      +6
                      Quote: True
                      What kind of people are you, zaputintsy. He was not rude to you, but you are all trying to insult him.

                      And what kind of people are you then navalnovtsy? This gentleman is not rude to me, he was rude to WOMAN firstly, if you will be rude to a woman no matter what beliefs, hesitate you will receive the same "warm" reception on the forum from me, in person you wouldn’t be laughing. yes
                      Quote: True
                      It amuses me how she shines with her stupidity and gall

                      Are you so smart that you are displaying your stupidity? Why are you spitting bile here, Zaputins, figuins, huh?
                      Quote: True
                      Cosmos, here you are, judging by your worthless. The vacuum in your head.

                      In the mirror, we often look dear, in the mirror there is a vacuum, and there you will see stupid ones.
                      Quote: True
                      And you, Vova Payne, are probably not interested in women at all.

                      fool fool fool Aga aha, 33 years old married, two adult children, three grandchildren, I will not send personal photos, this is my family. Are you eating questions? I hope for mutual understanding.
                    3. SPACE
                      SPACE 12 October 2017 15: 14 New
                      +3
                      Quote: True
                      What kind of people are you, zaputintsy. He was not rude to you, but you are all trying to insult him. Reread the branch. This is kapets

                      You first open your eyes, and then turn on the brain, and again carefully re-read the branch. Well Believable, mastered? Or do you have to personally poke your nose into someone else's? Well, where is the truth?
                      Quote: True
                      Cosmos, here you are, judging by your worthless. The vacuum in your head

                      So it turns out that you are such people, liberals, they would have to misinterpret. Absolute vacuum is better than dermo in the head. Change your nickname to a more believable one.
              2. True
                True 12 October 2017 12: 07 New
                +3
                It amuses me how she shines with her stupidity and gall.
                1. SPACE
                  SPACE 12 October 2017 15: 26 New
                  +3
                  Quote: True
                  It amuses me how she shines with her stupidity and gall.

                  Pay better attention to the brilliance of your own stupidity, the first vilichina, I Space I know yes
              3. spirit
                spirit 12 October 2017 13: 37 New
                +3
                Yes, even if the Lady becomes president, the lady will change her shoes in the eyes of the Eye, as they say: taxi drivers, journalists and questions .... and serve any government laughing
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 12 October 2017 14: 14 New
                  +5
                  Quote: spirit
                  Yes, even if the Lady becomes president, the lady will change her shoes in the eyes of the Eye, as they say: taxi drivers, journalists and questions .... and serve any government laughing

                  Take a look in the mirror there and you will see, God forgive me, and read my comment above, I hope for mutual understanding.
    5. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 12 October 2017 09: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      There is no alternative, no worthy of Putin.

      Yes there is, of course, only who will allow them ?! In our government (as a matter of fact, all over the world) only "ours" crawl through.
    6. Overlock
      Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 19 New
      0
      and why there is no alternative? Maybe this is the desired result for GDP?
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 12 October 2017 06: 31 New
    +3
    GDP needs to be democratically made a lifelong president, so that the different "opposition" will calm down forever!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 12 October 2017 07: 45 New
      12
      With the right to transfer power by inheritance! wassat
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 12 October 2017 09: 06 New
        12
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        With the right to transfer power by inheritance!

        And it already is! Only power is transferred not by kinship, but by nepotism. That is, exclusively to their people.
  4. kepmor
    kepmor 12 October 2017 06: 50 New
    15
    elections in the USSR turned into a farce ... in Russia, elections are like a clowning ...
    in both cases, the result is known in advance ...
    what else can you say ..... how to choose, and live ....
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 12 October 2017 07: 12 New
      12
      Quote: kepmor
      elections in the USSR turned into a farce ... in Russia, elections are like a clowning ...
      in both cases, the result is known in advance ...
      what else can you say ..... how to choose, and live ....


      Olya
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 12 October 2017 06: 51 New
    11
    Medvedev is the last person to vote for. It is clear that if he is “appointed”, then he will be the next king, but not according to Senka’s hat, as he was the locum tenens (chair-warmer), so he did not rise higher.
  6. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 12 October 2017 06: 54 New
    +2
    It’s strange that Levada didn’t have a question. "You will vote for Navalny (who has no right to advance) or don’t go to the polls "? laughing

    Then it would be possible to find some other statistical regularity.

    By the way, those 3% who are for Putin, if he doesn’t run, are those who spoil the ballots by entering Putin by hand there; everything is just natural here.
    1. True
      True 12 October 2017 09: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Gormengast
      It’s strange that Levada didn’t have the question “Will you vote for Navalny (who has no right to run at all)

      Why doesn’t he have the right? Who decided that? The constitution says otherwise. Can. I understand my thoughts are gone. What the litter says from the TV is true ...
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 12 October 2017 11: 15 New
        +2
        Navalny is serving a suspended sentence.

        The cop will not help him. laughing And the ECHR is illegitimate, since the Russian Federation did not participate in the election of the PACE chairman and all bodies of the Council of Europe have about the same legitimacy as Poroshenko. laughing
        1. True
          True 12 October 2017 11: 40 New
          +3
          Article 3. Electoral rights of citizens of the Russian Federation in the election of the President of the Russian Federation
          2. A Russian citizen may be elected President of the Russian Federation at least 35 years old and resides in the Russian Federation for at least 10 years.
          4. Does not have the right to elect the President of the Russian Federation and to be elected President of the Russian Federation, to participate in other electoral actions by a citizen of the Russian Federation who is recognized by a court as legally incompetent or is held in prison by a court judgment.
          5. A citizen of the Russian Federation holding the position of the President of the Russian Federation for the second consecutive term on the day of the official publication (publication) of the decision to call the election of the President of the Russian Federation does not have the right to be elected President of the Russian Federation.
          1. seal78
            seal78 12 October 2017 20: 42 New
            0
            Read carefully the constitution of the Russian Federation. A person with an outstanding criminal record (and within 10, and in some cases 15 years after repayment) does not have the right to run for president in the Russian presidential election.
            1. True
              True 12 October 2017 21: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: seal78
              Read carefully the constitution of the Russian Federation. A person with an outstanding criminal record (and within 10, and in some cases 15 years after repayment) does not have the right to run for president in the Russian presidential election.

              Article 81 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation 1. The President of the Russian Federation is elected for a term of six years by citizens of the Russian Federation on the basis of universal equal and direct suffrage by secret ballot * (14). 2. A citizen of the Russian Federation no younger than 35 years old, permanently residing in the Russian Federation for at least 10 years may be elected President of the Russian Federation. 3. One and the same person may not hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms. 4. The procedure for the election of the President of the Russian Federation is determined by federal law.

              Source: http://constrf.ru/razdel-1/glava-4/st-81-krf
              Do you have a different constitution?
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 21 New
      0
      there was another question: how do you vote for an unknown candidate from GDP? The answer is 18% in favor
  7. Knowing
    Knowing 12 October 2017 06: 54 New
    +6
    Well, if the GDP (God forbid!) Does not stand for the presidential election, I’ll go to vote for Shoigu (I’ll add in the ballot!) ... recourse request
    1. johnik
      johnik 12 October 2017 08: 52 New
      +1
      Or Lavrov!
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 12 October 2017 11: 19 New
        0
        Lavrov is old already. He may not live to see the end of his presidential term.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 21 New
          0
          first time or what? Let it rule
    2. Alikos
      Alikos 12 October 2017 19: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Knowing
      Well, if the GDP (God forbid!) Does not stand for the presidential election, I’ll go to vote for Shoigu (I’ll add in the ballot!) ... recourse request

      Quote: johnik
      Or Lavrov!


      Guard...
      You would still offer Zakharov
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 22: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Alikos
        Guard...
        You would still offer Zakharov

        well, at one time she was regularly posted to VO, so some hotheads already started to carry this crap
  8. moskowit
    moskowit 12 October 2017 06: 58 New
    +7
    After all, the survey was among ordinary citizens "on the street", and a certain percentage of ordinary citizens already at a subconscious level "absorbed" the paradigm that "if not Putin, then Medvedev."

    So, my dear friends, we all fell into the category of "ordinary citizens" who are already denied the right to reflect! We have, you see, already Medvedev "at a subconscious level" !!! And who of the scum and bastards from the so-called lousy "elite"? am am am
    1. Volodin
      12 October 2017 12: 54 New
      +1
      I hasten to congratulate you on writing a comment without reading the article. And the article says in black and white: 8% of citizens would vote for Medvedev, as follows from the Levada poll. It is about this "certain percentage" that the phrase in the phrase you give here is referred to. If you yourself refer to this percentage and refer, then this, as they say today among young people, is "sad."

      It is strange that this has to be further clarified. Although nothing strange - "I did not read, but I condemn" ...
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 October 2017 07: 00 New
    +6
    1 - Putin, 2 - I do not know. 3 - I won’t go to the polls.

    Well, what's the problem? Well, if GDP goes to the polls. At least for the coming years, we will not hand over the country to Americans.
  10. Alex_59
    Alex_59 12 October 2017 07: 03 New
    17
    I personally have no one to vote for. Sadness.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 October 2017 07: 29 New
      13
      Similarly. I will not vote for Putin in principle.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 09: 08 New
        11
        Well then, consider that you both voted to return to 90 if not worse!
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 12 October 2017 09: 26 New
          15
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Well then, consider that you both voted to return to 90 if not worse!

          And now, aren’t they the same 90, but slightly combed? Is something radically changed in state policy? I personally see what's inside the so-called After the advent of Putin, the “liberal” camp was stratified into moderate and radical. The radicals were pushed out of the feeder to the periphery and now they are jumping around the Navalny-Nemtsovsky deity. And the moderate ones represented by Putin-Medvedev remained. But it’s the same “liberals” anyway. They still do not want to formulate a coherent industrial policy, continue the policy of curtailing social programs, etc. Of course, the transition from radical liberalism to moderate has brought a number of improvements that cannot be ignored. But this did not happen because it was conceived so, purposefully launched the country's course on development. This happened almost by itself.
          Well, they began to make warplanes a bit. Good? Yes. But by finalizing still Soviet products and in very modest amounts. Well, because there’s absolutely nothing to fly on. And not because they realized the need to become the technological leader of the planet, to get away from raw material dependence, to capture high-tech markets. No, that's not why. Well, you just need to do something a bit, take people, give the pilots something. Syria again needs to be bombed with something. Where is the conscious course? Coordination of actions? How was it with Bath? There is no such thing. "They" already have robots assembling planes, we still have the master Vasilich and engineer Petrovich with a caliper to figure out how to fit the place here. How long will it last in this mode?
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 12 October 2017 15: 02 New
            +2
            Why are you crucifying her. She has only 2 options before her eyes, either the great Putin, or the "Bulk State Department of the Provocation of the CIA" liberalists TraitorsM
            siege .... "
            facepalm .....
          2. seal78
            seal78 12 October 2017 20: 33 New
            0
            Those. now "combed 90s", but you do not mind that returned "combed"?
        2. spirit
          spirit 12 October 2017 13: 48 New
          +3
          Come on? Well, you know better) on the periphery 90 have long returned
        3. Greenwood
          Greenwood 12 October 2017 15: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Well then, consider that you both voted to return to 90 if not worse!
          If not Putin, then the 90s. laughing Logics? No, have not heard.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 22: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Greenwood
            If not Putin, then the 90s. laughing logic? No, have not heard.

            female logic laughing
    2. seal78
      seal78 12 October 2017 20: 31 New
      0
      Yeah. Because they will vote for you for Medvedev.
  11. Bastinda
    Bastinda 12 October 2017 07: 07 New
    14
    Quote: rotmistr60
    At least for the coming years, we will not hand over the country to Americans.

    What computer are you sitting at ?, which phone ?, car ?, probably dressed in Chinese (Italian) rags?, What recently bought Russian? (C-300,400, tanks, nuclear reactors? RD 180) What else can I pass?
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 12 October 2017 07: 19 New
      +3
      I buy Russian-made food, but what?
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 12 October 2017 07: 25 New
        11
        All? Will be a little !? It is now practically impossible to seize and control the territory of Russia, but to deprive the industry, to make a raw materials appendage providing itself with food products (they don’t understand otherwise), with a “freely chosen” government is quite possible.
        1. seal78
          seal78 12 October 2017 20: 26 New
          0
          Not enough? Without food, I think no one needs computers and iPhones. Well, perhaps the most stubborn, for the sake of these iPhones getting into loans.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 12 October 2017 07: 19 New
      +9
      What computer are you sitting at ?, what phone ?, car ?,

      I’m bastard from such questions, because it’s the only lifesaver of the Liberals and the pro-Western. When there is essentially nothing to say, the attendant immediately starts - a computer, a telephone. At the same time, they are ready to surrender everything and everything (including the country) for the sake of their beloved.
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 12 October 2017 07: 28 New
        12
        Ok, let's leave the computers, phones, and cars out of brackets.
        How many production facilities do you have in your city? Compared to the year 1990? What is being produced? (food, let’s leave too).
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 12 October 2017 09: 12 New
          11
          Bastinda Today, 07:28 ↑ New
          Ok, let's leave the computers, phones, and cars out of brackets.
          How many production facilities do you have in your city? Compared to the year 1990? What is being produced? (food, let’s leave too).
          In Rostov, there’s more than anything in 1990 than in XNUMX. And about computers or iPhones, then you will turn to a "prosperous" Europe with this question. Have you seen a lot of French computers or German iPhones ?! Each country produces and implements what it does best. So your liberoid speech past the box office!
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 12 October 2017 09: 31 New
            12
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Each country produces and implements what it does best.

            Judging by the data of Rosstat, we get only oil and gas. Is it worthy of the first spacewalking country?
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              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 12 October 2017 09: 54 New
                13
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                You see only the negative, but I see not only the negative that actually exists, here you can’t argue with you, but also those positive shifts.

                Nothing of the kind, I see the good and the good indeed, a lot is getting better. We have a truly free country, in recent years, in the region where I live, all roads have been licked and many new ones have been built, the appeal to state bodies has been established humanly, life is well-fed, measured, stable. I appreciate it. But this is not enough. Putin is a liberal. I am a social democrat. There is no political force in the country reflecting my views. Therefore, I have no one to vote for. Putin is an excellent man, he is attractive to me, he is a really strong politician, he has done a lot to improve the position of our country. But this is not enough. In 2001 years, I would vote for him with both hands. And in general, all zero. But now is another time. It is necessary to develop further. Look at China. What has been done there, how tall is it. We are going too slowly. We need a new wave, new ideas. But they are not.
                1. SPACE
                  SPACE 12 October 2017 10: 55 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  We are going too slowly. Need a new wave, new ideas

                  Calm down, Without us, still no one will go anywhere far! Russia is such a large and powerful country that not only from east to west in space it spreads over several time zones, but also in time, past, present and future!
                  "You’ll go fast, you’ll die quickly, you’re going quietly, you’ll hardly reach ..." "I’m not in a hurry and I’m not hurrying, we are interested in quality" by the film Man Country of Kapucin Boulevard
              2. True
                True 12 October 2017 11: 47 New
                +9
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                By the way, oil and gas dependence is now much lower than it was under Gorbachev-Yeltsin. All the same, statistics should be watched at least occasionally, even if they are not always true, but still there is no other.

                Sorry, SHTO ?! Are you seriously?! Yes, and these people forbid me to pick my nose (s).
          2. True
            True 12 October 2017 11: 29 New
            +6
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Each country produces and implements what it does best. So your liberoid speech past the box office!

            Of course, you could give a bunch of examples of high-tech RUSSIAN (non-Soviet) goods, but you have no time to explain this to ... like me, you rise from your knees.
          3. Bastinda
            Bastinda 12 October 2017 12: 50 New
            +6
            If really more, then only happy for you. I mainly judge by my region (Yaroslavl, Kostroma, Ivanovo) and partly by Moscow.
            I really want to be happy for Russia, but I do not watch TV, and without it, there are few reasons for joy. Today, the news line on VO. Near two notes, the United States put into operation 14 "virgin", ours, launched a boat ...
            Well, it does not inspire, it’s optimistic.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 12 October 2017 10: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: Bastinda
          How many production facilities do you have in your city? Compared to the year 1990? What is being produced?

          Or take the period from 1991-2002? To write about Saturn PJSC or do you yourself know what we are producing? To write about Vympel or the Rybinsk Instrument Making Plant and what they produce, this is not one article that will be published, I have not yet added it list of Gas Turbine Plant and Russian Mechanics, I won’t talk about Yaroslavl, not everything is sweet and okay of course, but your distortion of the facts however, but whose computer and phone
          Quote: rotmistr60
          At the same time, they are ready to surrender everything and everything (including the country) for the sake of their beloved.

          Yes, they do it in full, and in the case of a schucher, they will immediately be transferred to compradors for overseer positions.
    3. True
      True 12 October 2017 11: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: Bastinda
      what recently bought Russian? (S-300,400, tanks, nuclear reactors? RD 180)

      Sorry, but this is all Soviet.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 12 October 2017 11: 34 New
        +8
        Quote: True
        Sorry, but this is all Soviet

        And in the USSR they knew how to do. yes
      2. Bastinda
        Bastinda 12 October 2017 12: 54 New
        +1
        Well, if I also wrote this, then a muddy shaft (of chocolate ???) would cover me with my head. Of course I know, I can read.
    4. SPACE
      SPACE 12 October 2017 11: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Bastinda
      What computer are you sitting at ?, which phone ?, car ?, probably dressed in Chinese (Italian) rags?, What recently bought Russian? (C-300,400, tanks, nuclear reactors? RD 180) What else can I pass?

      You think in small categories, and if you think globally, then Russia is the main tap and switch of world energy and a guarantor of world security! A trifle in the form of clothes, perfumes, cars and iPhones, produced from our raw materials, the destiny of the foreign colonies protected by us)))
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 12 October 2017 12: 57 New
        +6
        Ingenious! Reread O. Henry, and replace the "banana" republic with a "raw" one. I could not resist, set +, for the clearness of thought.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 October 2017 07: 28 New
    0
    The president will be a person whose last name begins with "D"! .... yes
    1. SOF
      SOF 12 October 2017 07: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      The president will be a person whose last name begins with "D"!

      and the supreme was going to change the name? ....
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 12 October 2017 07: 45 New
    +4
    If Medvedev is on the list of candidates, I will go vote against ...
  14. evil partisan
    evil partisan 12 October 2017 07: 46 New
    +3
    Believe Center - Believe - Do not respect yourself. yes
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 October 2017 08: 05 New
    +6
    Medvedev for the presidency! Dmitry Anatolyevich, we hold on, hold on. Oh, for you, the winner of NATO in Georgia, let's tear anyone into polymers.
    Long live liberalism! Medvedev is a loyal successor to the Yeltsin-Putin case!
  16. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 12 October 2017 08: 20 New
    +2
    I couldn’t see Dyumin at all, I couldn’t show myself to myself, as governor, since I fell out of the media ... what truth, what governor is from the guard ?!
  17. shark
    shark 12 October 2017 08: 22 New
    +5
    I am an ardent opponent of rocking the boat, I am an ardent Putinist and statesman. But if they choose Medvedev, I’ll go out on the street and swing from the heart. And let everything fly to tartarara .. For, in this case, it will become absolutely clear to me that such a country has no prospect.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 October 2017 08: 29 New
      13
      But if they choose Medvedev, I’ll go out on the street and swing from the heart. And let everything fly to tartarara ..
      How does it all fit in your head at the same time? You trust Putin, but you don’t trust Medvedev. But Putin entrusted Medvedev to rule the country, I mean the post of head of government. Putin even goes on vacation with Medvedev. What are you unhappy with?
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 12 October 2017 10: 09 New
        +3
        Well, I also trust my dog ​​(York) and go on vacation with him, this does not mean that he really can solve something.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 12 October 2017 10: 27 New
          +3
          trust my dog ​​too (
          Who are you dropping now? It's about managing the country. I hope your dog does not go to work for you.
          1. Smog
            Smog 12 October 2017 16: 01 New
            +5
            Quote: Gardamir
            I hope your dog does not go to work for you.
            good
            Well this is ........ what if he walks around? It depends on who and where the owner works ..... laughing
    2. spirit
      spirit 12 October 2017 14: 00 New
      0
      You will be announced that you are a supporter of Navalny (like long-range fighting) and that you are on a budget with the CIA and will be locked up in jail) laughing
  18. shark
    shark 12 October 2017 08: 24 New
    0
    In general, my personal rating is 1. Putin 2. Shoigu 3. Communist Party but not Zyugan.
    1. seal78
      seal78 12 October 2017 20: 16 New
      +1
      Well, what Shoigu? He is already old for such a position. If we are to change the GDP, then the young and tough (to the Western "partners") option.
  19. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 October 2017 08: 49 New
    +1
    Whipping boy. They started it before, so that the people would trample on, the couples released. And closer to the election, the "saving option" will be taken out of the sleeve.
  20. trophy
    trophy 12 October 2017 08: 52 New
    13
    Five leaders - (and rhyme suggests itself). I’ll go to the polls, but with only one goal - to spoil the ballot. Whatever you yourself know who didn’t get (I’m of course talking about the chairman of the local election commission). The rest of it in FIG is unnecessary. Yes, and by and large, too. Properly cleared the GDP glade. It’s all around, and he’s d, Arthanyan. The most scanty thing is that not one of the gentlemen proposed to us to choose (namely, the SUGGESTED) inside the country will change anything in the interests of most citizens. In the interests of the organized criminal group pushing him and himself beloved, yes. All these siu, fat, bulk even on representatives of organized crime groups do not pull, so, background. Sane even on the horizon is not visible.
    1. Soho
      Soho 12 October 2017 09: 16 New
      +1
      trophy Today, 08:52
      in the interests of most citizens will not

      the phrase cannot be shortsighted. More suitable for the rally.
      And so, usually reformers trying to carry out reforms that break the old way, most often these "majority of citizens" were then the first to crucify. Since reforms and scrapping systems are usually very painful. The reformer must have a colossal credit of credibility in order to bring the program to the end.
      1. trophy
        trophy 12 October 2017 10: 19 New
        +4
        The phrase may be “short-sighted”, although it’s easier, except for the majority, to summarize citizens who are not members of social groups who call themselves elite (in one form or another) and, according to the most optimistic estimates, comprise from 2 to 4% of the population (bandits by the way, too enter)? Teach please. The term "rogue" please do not offer. And about the need for a colossal rating of a possible reformer, there is such a citizen. If my memory serves me well, his rating has been hanging in the corridor from 16 to 60% over the past 80 years. With such an indicator, and if there is a desire, you can figuratively say mountains to tear off mountains with baby scoops. Yes, the problem is clear in the categorical absence of desire, their majesty is happy with everything.
        1. Soho
          Soho 12 October 2017 11: 21 New
          0
          except for the majority, we can generally name citizens who are not members of social groups

          to explain to you about "in the interests of the majority" you will need a simpler example. For simplicity, let us not take the state (where do we go? laughing ), and a certain industrial enterprise. This plant is standing, working neither shaky nor roll. Manual steals into your pocket. Although workers receive pennies, they don’t strain them with their work. But tired of their misery, and they decided to throw off the old director and put in a new one. That he them, workers, well-being raised. Salary, that is, social programs and all that. And the new crisis director took up the job. First of all, to raise salaries you need to earn money. How??? 1. Cost optimization. It means that it closes inefficient sections, and reduces workers. 2. Modernization of production. It attracts borrowed funds, reduces costs, and therefore cuts social programs and premium funds. 3. Introduces increased requirements for labor, demutation for labor violations. responsibilities, responsibility for the implementation of targets. Etc.
          Workers in oh .....: "how so? What have we chosen for you?"
          But how else to raise the income of the average employee, if not to make fundamental changes in the whole enterprise? Only by making the enterprise effective. But as long as you make it such, many will lose even what they have. Will they like it? Hardly. This is what I had in mind when talking about a credit of trust
          1. SERGUS
            SERGUS 13 October 2017 14: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Soho
            This plant is standing, working neither shaky nor roll. Manual steals into your pocket. Although workers receive pennies, they don’t strain them with their work.

            Such plants, as a rule, sooner or later go bankrupt, therefore either modernization and development (although workers will not be happy as you say with “increased labor requirements”) or complete collapse.
        2. Bastinda
          Bastinda 12 October 2017 13: 19 New
          +3
          How to increase the motivation of the president? Do you mean this? Option R. Sheckley "Ticket to the planet Tranay"
          1. trophy
            trophy 12 October 2017 17: 05 New
            +2
            The production example is just lovely. Only a number of points were missed, such as an analysis of the situation in order to identify the causes (having both economic and criminal origin) of the deplorable state of the enterprise. 1. Analysis of the activities of the previous management (management), including the workshop and department management. Accordingly, with subsequent measures to compensate for the damage caused. 2. The selection and placement of new management personnel in return for beautifully seated on the bunks. 3. Development and implementation of a more advanced structure. It is impossible to step on the throat of only hard workers to make the enterprise work. And before OSHMit personnel must block the channels of theft and change managers. And in your opinion you can’t touch the house of cards, otherwise it will collapse and fill up everyone. So a day earlier, a day later. It is better when the destruction process has a controlled character than chaotic.
            1. Soho
              Soho 13 October 2017 12: 29 New
              0
              trophy Yesterday, 17:05
              Only missed, missing a number of points

              Well, now we are not writing a prescription for crisis management. I gave an example to reveal my statement. but it’s about something completely different.
              And I in no way made it clear that
              "do not touch the house of cards"
              . You understand strangely, or do not try to understand ....
          2. Soho
            Soho 13 October 2017 04: 22 New
            0
            Do you mean it?

            no. I wrote that the average citizen is ready to move towards prosperity. Given that it will go "through the thorns." Practice shows that more often than not. But all the same, this does not prevent this average citizen, who is drinking gulls and sausages in the kitchen, indignantly typing in his laptop “how long will we begging ?!” hi
            1. SERGUS
              SERGUS 13 October 2017 15: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Soho
              I wrote that the average citizen is ready to move towards prosperity. Given that it will go "through the thorns." Practice shows that more often than not.

              I agree to all 100. Therefore, we need a person who says "it is necessary", as the mother (or father) tells the child in the morning, who says "I do not want to go to school." Did people want to starve to death in the 30s? The answer is obvious - no, they didn’t want to, but they suffered the industrialization of the country, which helped to win the Second World War, and created a reserve for development for many years to come, we still use a lot. And in what form will we give the country to our children, grandchildren? Are we telling them we had bread, soup and clothes, we had enough!?
  21. Boris55
    Boris55 12 October 2017 09: 27 New
    +4
    I won’t write about how the Americans divorced this boy on his smartphone. Everyone remembers Libya and what happened to it. How this “radish”, as president, stopped unloading from our ships the s-300 standing off the coast of Libya and how the company almost got covered, leaving workers and their families for a long time without means of coexistence. the contract by the will of this "bad man" was not fulfilled. Here is a video that many have already seen more than once and still allow myself to post it again so that whoever forgot - remembered, and who did not know - found out who is who:

    Everyone sees Syria and what happened to it, and most importantly to us, was when President Putin. And everyone remembers what happened to Libya when Medvedev was president.
  22. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 12 October 2017 09: 32 New
    +3
    Smog,
    It was in the mine that he began to wave his legs .. Like, what a cool guy. fellow
  23. sergo1914
    sergo1914 12 October 2017 09: 35 New
    +3
    1) It turns out every owner of an iPhone - a priori traitor? I'm going to 3 November for the top ten. Immediately arrested or allowed to reach the house? Will I have time to say goodbye to my family?
    2) The hysteria is not clear in the article and in the comments about the elections. I recommend 200 Courvoisier and the film "Election Day" for the night. Let it go.
  24. rudolff
    rudolff 12 October 2017 10: 11 New
    +6
    Why these polls? The next election will be Putin’s election. And in the next we will choose the one whom Putin will point a finger at. Medvedev will say, then Medvedev and sneeze what his rating is. There will be a team and let's go like sheep to a watering place. Friendly, fun, with jokes and jokes.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 12 October 2017 12: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: rudolff
      There will be a team and let's go like sheep to a watering place.

      But you can not go and not be this same above?
    2. You Vlad
      You Vlad 12 October 2017 18: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: rudolff
      Why these polls? The next election will be Putin’s election. And in the next we will choose the one whom Putin will point a finger at. Medvedev will say, then Medvedev and sneeze what his rating is. There will be a team and let's go like sheep to a watering place. Friendly, fun, with jokes and jokes.

      Worthy good +
  25. SMP
    SMP 12 October 2017 11: 38 New
    +2
    Meet the leader of the presidential rating

    1. Volodin
      12 October 2017 12: 58 New
      +2
      And doesn’t he receive Limpomponii citizenship? ..
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 13 October 2017 14: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        And doesn’t he receive Limpomponii citizenship? ..

        Judging by the video, already received fellow The country is not scared .......
  26. wot
    wot 12 October 2017 11: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Trofim
    Sane even on the horizon is not visible.

    good
  27. wot
    wot 12 October 2017 11: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: sergo1914
    1) It turns out every owner of an iPhone - a priori traitor? I'm going to 3 November for the top ten. Immediately arrested or allowed to reach the house? Will I have time to say goodbye to my family?
    2) The hysteria is not clear in the article and in the comments about the elections. I recommend 200 Courvoisier and the film "Election Day" for the night. Let it go.

    with such income and sit in belay Well, what is the gram 200 Courvoisier - I hear for the first time request
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 12 October 2017 12: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: wot
      Well, what is the gram 200 Courvoisier - I hear for the first time


      Cognac. Tasty.
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 12 October 2017 12: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: wot
      with such income and sit in


      So gracefully visitors IN rogues no one called
  28. wot
    wot 12 October 2017 12: 37 New
    0
    Quote: sergo1914
    So gracefully visitors IN rogues no one called

    a flying bird on VO, from brandy are blind wink
  29. Opanas abramych
    Opanas abramych 12 October 2017 13: 21 New
    0
    Levada needs to be given the Shnobel Prize. They deserve it.
  30. 1536
    1536 12 October 2017 13: 26 New
    +1
    Those. the conclusion is this: in Russia, in addition to GDP, is there no real leader? But this is not so. If you "turn on" the logic, then in the 1999 year, GDP was not a "newcomer from nowhere", but was a citizen of Russia. And if you look at the whole pyramid of history, you can recall Minin and Pozharsky, who brought Mikhail after the troubles to the Russian throne, and Peter I, whose rule A.S. Pushkin said: "Russia entered Europe like a lowered ship, with the sound of an ax and the thunder of guns." Then there were times when "Russia was not lucky with kings." But do not forget Catherine II and Alexander III. Soviet time is also no different from the previous one: the people's cry for the deceased V.I. Lenin and the impending new unrest were prevented by the appearance of I.V. Stalin. In the 1980 years, no luck. But this, too, the grandmother in two said, lucky or not. As for statistics, the principle still applies here: "there is a lie, a blatant lie, but there is a statistic." The main thing is not to lose your head and not ruin your country.
  31. 1536
    1536 12 October 2017 13: 31 New
    0
    Quote: wot
    Quote: sergo1914
    1) It turns out every owner of an iPhone - a priori traitor? I'm going to 3 November for the top ten. Immediately arrested or allowed to reach the house? Will I have time to say goodbye to my family?
    2) The hysteria is not clear in the article and in the comments about the elections. I recommend 200 Courvoisier and the film "Election Day" for the night. Let it go.

    with such income and sit in belay Well, what is the gram 200 Courvoisier - I hear for the first time request

    Is something wrong with iPhones? Good phone, although overrated one and a half times. But do not like it - do not buy. On the contrary, I would attract and involve those young children who were really able to earn money for iPhone (who took money from their parents not to strain) to do things useful for society. That means he can do something more.
  32. Old military officer
    Old military officer 12 October 2017 13: 38 New
    0
    [quote = Orel] [/ quote]

    Whoever has more on TV will win.
    Oh oh! But what about, I don’t watch TV at all, I don’t like to look into the garbage cans?
  33. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 12 October 2017 14: 06 New
    16
    leader of the presidential rating

    Hobbiton
    The Fellowship of the Ring
  34. noodles
    noodles 12 October 2017 15: 21 New
    +1
    I personally have many unpleasant questions for our President! But as they said in my youth, what on the horizon? So far, unfortunately, and no one is good! In this situation, I will vote for him — he knows his whole elite as flaky and will not harm himself — for it needs an eye and an eye — Russia is not Europe! All of his qualities will just allow the state to survive and move on, NOT AN ENEMY OF HIMSELF! Although, frankly, henchmen
    so much that will not be sweet! BUT LIFE WILL FORCE! Everyone wants to leave about themselves
    good memory, he is sure too! And about our Television I wrote here such a quatrain- We have neither life, but laughter- Wherever you look at Talk shows and tear apart-As if everything
    all day under the fly — Look at crime and sex paradise !!
  35. Freeman
    Freeman 12 October 2017 15: 30 New
    +6
    real three (based on the results of the survey it looks like this: 1 - Putin, 2 - I don’t know. 3 - I won’t go to the polls.

    At the moment, I'm more and more inclined towards option number 3.
    So far, everything is going to ensure that the presidential election will be held according to the worked out scenario:
    - Three "Duma clowns" will make every effort not to be elected to the presidency. They are like a fire afraid of any responsibility - "They are fed so well."
    - There will still be some kind of "dance" from the "liberal opposition" to add "legitimacy."
    If no political party nominates a “fresh” candidate, then I have no one to vote for.
    And I have no desire to be an extra in the Runway Show.
    / "WFP" - "Election of President Putin" /
    I will not vote for Putin, not because he was a bad president - but because over the years he has been in power, he has practically exhausted himself, he was never able to withdraw the country from the vicious circle of development laid down by the Yeltsin regime. His policy of creating the appearance of "stability" leads only to "stagnation."
    And we have already lost one country. IMHO.
  36. forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 12 October 2017 15: 47 New
    +1
    SPACE,
    since you continue to exaggerate this topic, I will give you a free Russian lesson. My nickname (forty-eighth) is an ordinal number, while the IQ indicator is a quantitative number.
    Now you can come up with a joke more literate.
  37. LAWNER
    LAWNER 12 October 2017 16: 48 New
    +1
    In general, according to the comments .... Acting Vladimir Putin for the next term Shoigu S.K ... Second candidate Lavrov S.V., but in my opinion this is the only irreplaceable minister. And he must be protected. D. Medvedev doesn’t pass in view of his soft nature. I remember Kudrin said something to him at a government meeting and the Darkest threw him out of the Kremlin ... Now Kudrin is sad about the future of Russia in the outskirts of the Rain Channel .... But the Darkest all the more so at his house (read the Kremlin) hardly anyone will dare ......
  38. ioann1
    ioann1 12 October 2017 17: 49 New
    0
    All these statistics are far-fetched and far-fetched ... In the near future, the outlines of the future of Russia will begin to appear. And it is clear that this will not be the same Russia as we see it today and especially yesterday ...
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 12 October 2017 18: 52 New
      +2
      I read the comments, and I realized .. the civil war is quite likely ... (someone forbid ...), the throats are ready to gnaw at each other ... and each for his "god" .... more- immortal quote S. V. Lavrova: "...... .....". (C).
  39. Varyag77
    Varyag77 12 October 2017 17: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    vovanpain Today, 08:05 ↑ New
    That will spit the TV. fellow
    Volodya, hi love good morning! The TV will not just be spat on, but broken and thrown away by her husband in the trash, not only with us, but also with all our friends.
    Well, why doesn’t it reach our liberalists that we are a totalitarian country through and through, that bullshit is alien to us and will never take root. Paraphrasing a famous phrase, we can say that the American is good, then the Russian death!

    Diana for the first time in many years I agree with you. Although a second. By totalitarianism, of course, you mean "the dictatorship of the proletariat"? Or am I wrong? wink
  40. Varyag77
    Varyag77 12 October 2017 18: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: sergo1914
    1) It turns out every owner of an iPhone - a priori traitor? I'm going to 3 November for the top ten. Immediately arrested or allowed to reach the house? Will I have time to say goodbye to my family?
    2) The hysteria is not clear in the article and in the comments about the elections. I recommend 200 Courvoisier and the film "Election Day" for the night. Let it go.

    Bourgeois sworn laughing
  41. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 12 October 2017 18: 17 New
    0
    Better Zhirinovsky than DAM !!! All asses abroad "lick." I beg your pardon, but there are no other words.
  42. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 12 October 2017 18: 26 New
    0
    The other day there was a poll on the internet where it was asked whether you would vote for Medvedev in the presidential election, yes or no. So the vast majority, somewhere over 70% said no! And the Levada Center is pro-Christian, and therefore it is preparing public opinion for what edros are preparing for the population.
  43. Indifferent
    Indifferent 12 October 2017 18: 44 New
    +2
    The author is very optimistic. We have such an election system that if Putin renounces the presidency and 8% vote for Medvedev, he will still become president. Because they will draw him instead of 8 - 80%. Do not forget - United Russia is in power, and he is its chairman! And that he, as a leader and politician is a complete zero, so United Russia does not care. What do you mean in this case Nabiulina is tied to the Premieres !!! And then you can shout: Hello the 90s!
  44. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 12 October 2017 19: 08 New
    0
    Medvedev for president ??? Russia, you are crazy!
  45. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 12 October 2017 19: 10 New
    +3

    "This poll proves that we do not have freedom and democracy in the country."

    Well yes, there is no democracy. And very good.
    Democracy takes away the trifles that the dictatorship gave the people - work, housing, stability, -
    and gives freedom in return. An ideal democratic society - every citizen can send any other citizen to hell without distinction of gender, nationality and religion.
    Moreover, democracy is impossible in any large country. In Switzerland, Belgium, Austria it is possible. But in Russia, the USA and China it is not. Its absence there is due to the vastness of the territories, a huge number of people of different faiths, ethnic groups, worldviews.
  46. ARES623
    ARES623 12 October 2017 19: 25 New
    0
    Well, everything is clear with Levada what to take from a foreign grant-eating agent. The author of the article, Mr. Volodin, was more struck, for which “Actually, there is nothing particularly strange in this result. After all, the survey was conducted among ordinary citizens“ on the street ”, and a certain percentage of ordinary citizens“ absorbed ”the paradigm about that "if not Putin, then Medvedev." - i.e. ordinary citizens, like Pavlov’s dogs, have a conditioned reflex in perceiving the continuity of power. This, obviously, is the main thing that distinguishes "ordinary half-animals" from non-ordinary, t.s. advanced. Like this. Somewhere I already heard about such differences between "ordinary" from all the others. Do not tell me - where?
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 12 October 2017 20: 12 New
      +1
      ARES623 Today, 19:25
      those. ordinary citizens, like Pavlov’s dogs, have a conditioned reflex in perception

      Remember the famous < YES. YES. NO. YES... >>?

      As we are assured, once already worked. So why not try again?
  47. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 12 October 2017 19: 50 New
    +1
    I don’t know how the Levada Center is, and I and my relatives, in the amount of 10 people, do not go to the polls! There are no worthy candidates. And once again, there’s no more power cards to look at! Based on the results, we will see how legitimate the newly elected government will be, how many people have voted for it. This will be my answer to terry neoliberal capitalism in Russia.
    1. seal78
      seal78 12 October 2017 20: 04 New
      0
      What a stupid answer. The voices of these 10 unfortunate people will go for Bulk or Medvedev.
  48. seal78
    seal78 12 October 2017 20: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Announce the pvv program and name its command

    His program will be announced by the campaign headquarters, he will form a team after winning the election.
  49. tank64rus
    tank64rus 12 October 2017 20: 21 New
    0
    How they want to remove the GDP and put their man type EBNa. Return the 90s and again mock Russia. Well, Levada must be assigned the status of a CIA unit for a long time, which is what it is
  50. Eurodav
    Eurodav 12 October 2017 21: 19 New
    0
    Likes this foreign agent B levada ...