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Project "ZZ". West sends Putin to retire

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Russia wants to see V.Putin president again? Does V. V. Putin himself want this? It is possible that he "brings up" the successor. Protests are shaking Russia, Western analysts say, and Comrade Putin, who runs the country in the manner of Soviet general secretaries, may simply wish to retire.




Is Russia going to see Vladimir Putin again as president? Will he remain in the Kremlin chair, or will "try to create a copy of himself"?

All other solutions to this issue "may lead to unrest" in the country - so Putin himself believes. This opinion was expressed by Professor Christian Gerner of the University of Lund, the second oldest university within the modern borders of Sweden.

Evaluation of the three possible options for the Russian election 2018 year given in the newspaper "Svenska Dagbladet".

Putin, this "silent man", this "gray cardinal", appeared in the political arena in the last period of the "political circus" B. N. Yeltsin. It was at the end of 1990's, the author recalls. Everyone suddenly saw a person from the state security organs - the former KGB. He was called the "gray cardinal" at that time, because Putin knew how to keep a low profile. This figure took the chair of the Prime Minister for a short time. Already in those years, Russia was rolling back to political control over society.

No one could imagine at that time that Putin would be a political long-liver. His presence in power lasts for the eighteenth year. In essence, Putin is a figure symbolizing Russia. And he wants to be a “synonym” for Russia.

Professor Christian Görner is convinced that Vladimir Putin is using the media for that, and also gives speeches in public. His goal is to "develop the charisma of a strong leader."

Who can create a counterbalance to such Putin? According to the expert, it would be a person inclined to discuss issues. But where is it?

If the Russians lost the Cold War, now Russia is pursuing an active policy abroad. Moscow is even accused of influencing the elections in the USA!

And that is Putin’s merit. It was he who “led Russia from the former state to the present”.

He played on moods and traditions: he finds the Soviet era in stories his native country is a valuable period, and he believes that Russia historically stands on two “pillars”: the Orthodox Church and the Great Patriotic War. The meaning of the war: the USSR saved the world from the fascists, and the West refuses to recognize it.

At the same time, “stormy protests against Putin” and the system of his rule are constantly going on in Russia. The article recalls the "murders of journalists and politicians."

Gerner says the following about Putin’s propaganda: under Putin, some things cannot be mentioned, but others must be brought to the fore. The concept of "revolution" is not to Putin's liking. He, according to Gerner’s conclusions, believes that civil society cannot be supported, “control” is necessary, and “it’s impossible to interfere” with the authorities.

What awaits the country in 2018?

The professor sees three scenarios.

1. Putin continues to rule the country. Everything goes on.

2. Putin will “raise” a successor who will “follow in his footsteps”.

3. Putin refuses to participate in the elections.

The last scenario seems to the professor himself "incredible." At the same time, the expert himself likes this option: if Putin refuses to run for president, a powerful ferment may arise in Russia, and “a society of dialogue will be created in the country”.

By the way, the professor thinks that the most likely scenario is not the first, but the second scenario: Putin is releasing the “line follower” to the scene.

As for “stormy protests against Putin,” the Western press, including the overseas press, writes a lot about them.

Sabra Ayres (Sabra Ayres) in "Los Angeles Times" says that on the sixty-fifth birthday of V. Putin, protesters across the country came out in support of the well-known opposition leader, Mr. Navalny.

Thousands of supporters came to the rallies of Alexei Navalny on Saturday in eighty cities of the country, the publication points out. Protests were held at the call of a corruption fighter who wants to "register as a candidate" in the presidential election.

This is not the first action organized by Navalny and his supporters. This year, this is the third anti-government and anti-corruption speech organized by the “implacable critic of Putin.” On the other hand, far fewer people participated in the recent meetings.

The Los Angeles Times cites some figures on arrests: 25 detention was recorded in 271 cities across the country (according to the OVD-Info independent monitoring group).

Previous demonstrations of 26 in March and 12 in June gave other indicators: at each meeting, more than 1800 detentions were held.

Saturday protests took place after a video message Navalny, who called on supporters to put pressure on the Kremlin and allow free and open elections. Navalny's 41-year-old is campaigning across the country, despite the fact that the Russian election commission is opposed to him because of a conviction in 2013. He rejected the conviction as politically motivated.

On October 7, Putin turned sixty-five years old, and Navalny declared that the protests would be a “birthday present” to him.

The journalist writes that the protest action in St. Petersburg turned out to be the largest: over two thousand people were chasing the streets of Putin’s hometown, chanting: “Putin, retire!” (“Putin, go on pension!”).

This slogan comes from Navalny. “Let Putin go on a well-deserved retirement,” he wrote on Facebook. “He has been in power for 18 for years, that's enough” (““ Let Putin go on a well deserved pension already ... for years, that's enough ”).

In Moscow, police told the Russian media that about 700 demonstrators took part in the rally.

“We are here because we no longer want Putin to be in power and support Navalny’s candidacy,” said Artyom Telunts, 18-year-old. “We want Russia to be free, have a free press, free elections, a free Internet ...” Therefore, Putin should “leave.”



“It’s time for him to retire,” said 16-year-old Dasha Schastnaya on Pushkin Square in Moscow. - We need someone new and fresh, who does not just crave power. Anyone who wants to do something for our country, to make us perfect ”(“ to make us perfect ”).

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Difficult and thorny path to perfection. Especially if you remember that Putin’s rule is more than 80% of Russians. “Los Angeles Times” cannot be denied in objectivity: the publication cites data on the rating of trust to Putin, which was established near the value “above 80%”. Putin is unlikely to face serious competition in the elections, the newspaper notes if he again wishes to make an “approach to the position”.

As for Navalny, he probably relies on age: B. Yeltsin resigned 68 years; now is the time to say goodbye to the authorities and Putin, who recently turned sixty-five. However, Navalny and his advisers do not take into account that the people do not associate Putin with Yeltsin - on the contrary, the second is considered to be the opposite of the first. Historical labels hold tight: Gorbachev ruined the USSR, Yeltsin destroyed Russia, Putin raised Russia from its knees.

In addition, Navalny did not prepare any disclosures for the current rallies. Perhaps the low “turnout” of his “electorate” is explained by just this. Video about Medvedev at one time great excited people. It is possible that in the headquarters of Navalny prepared surprises for the electoral future. It is terrible to imagine who after Medvedev will be the person involved in the new video!
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  1. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 11 October 2017 09: 34 New
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    If Putin leaves now, then no one will remember him with a kind word, because his deeds for the benefit of the Fatherland are, by and large, meager, inconspicuous and ineffective. All his merit - did not let the country fall into a tailspin, at the peak. But that’s all. After the Ebnov coup, the liberal course, driving the country into a dead end, has not changed; everything is going on in its own way, drawn by Westerners. However, he still has a chance to turn domestic politics and the economy to the people, and to the thief-oligarchs, a dupe. Maybe it will finish the job, and Russia will become a truly social state for its people, and not a western gas station ?!
    1. turbris
      turbris 11 October 2017 10: 03 New
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      Have you forgotten that 80% of the population currently supports Putin? And your dreams of a truly social state cause laughter, dreams of communism again? The oligarchs do not give you life just because you want to have everything and do nothing at the same time. Try to work, it will immediately become easier.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 11 October 2017 11: 03 New
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        The professor sees three scenarios.
        1. Putin continues to rule the country. Everything goes on.
        2. Putin will “raise” a successor who will “follow in his footsteps”.
        3. Putin refuses to participate in the elections.

        Well, what a profound analysis, Bravo Professor. good Only my granddaughter at the age of 5 also came to the same opinion. fellow
      2. Romey
        Romey 11 October 2017 11: 07 New
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        Quote: turbris
        Have you forgotten that 80% of the population currently supports Putin? And your dreams of a truly social state cause laughter, dreams of communism again? The oligarchs do not give you life just because you want to have everything and do nothing at the same time. Try to work, it will immediately become easier.

        Well. well, let's wait another 6 years ... Although hardly. In February, the fun begins: the confiscation of the excessively acquired by the oligarchy and it will be very interesting to look at the reaction of the security community to the total economic and political crisis, as a result of the Yeltsin-Putin economic policy.
      3. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 11 October 2017 11: 48 New
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        Quote: turbris
        Try to work, it will immediately become easier.

        So already 25 years I work and I plan as much more. Only hands and brains, as taught in the Soviet school. Normally arranged, no need to go over to the person. You mumble this for 20 million working Russians, but living on the verge of poverty or below its line. On duty, I face weekly decent, honest, hard-working citizens who have one hopelessness and no prospects. Not everyone can and wants to be traders, opportunists and thieves. And what are bad dreams of communism? Or the exploitation of some people by others and living at the expense of the first - the most chocolate?
        I, too, support Putin, but only because the West hates him. For the period that he is at the helm, his fingers will suffice to list all his achievements. Little and slurred! But, thanks, at least something, at least a wool shred.
        And where to work? You tell it to those who are now 15-20 years old. However, A.I. Fursov quite convincingly outlined the current situation. After viewing it will be more clear what I mean ...
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 13 October 2017 08: 15 New
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          Before giving videos of Fursov, Starikov and others, you need to understand the meaning of their activities.

          In general, according to good Putin, one must recall Stalin's great idea about the Gulag and implement them in Russia anew.
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 13 October 2017 08: 31 New
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          Quote: Antianglosaks
          Quote: turbris
          Try to work, it will immediately become easier.

          So already 25 years I work and I plan as much more. Only hands and brains, as taught in the Soviet school.
          Maybe the author meant that he worked as a Nashi Internet warrior, supported the oligarchs and watered the slops of the USSR, and received his “30 silver coins” for each post. Given the current difficult situation, they have a lot of work, people are grumbling hi
    2. Vard
      Vard 11 October 2017 10: 28 New
      +7
      Yes, from his reign there are only problems ... in our provincial town there are traffic jams on the roads in the morning and in the evening! There’s a problem in the courtyards ... You won’t be able to buy land plots, everything’s worth it ... Cancer treatment ... Stage 4 ... cost me in the Samara Oncology Center ... zero rubles ... What else can I say ... A son of one million six hundred rubles for an apartment was compensated for 900 rubles ...
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 October 2017 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Vard
        in our provincial town traffic jams in the morning and evening on the roads! In the courtyards of the car put a problem ...

        Well yes ...
        “- Then I entered the factory and began to earn decently. Even on a rainy day I started saving money, in that case, which means that if I suddenly become unemployed again. Only it was difficult, of course, to hold back so as not to spend money. And then they still began to say that I needed to buy a car. I say: why do I need a car? I can walk and walk. And they say to me: it’s a shame to walk. Only the poor walk on foot. In addition, a car can be bought in installments. You will make a small cash contribution, get a car, and then you will pay a little each month, until all the money is paid. Well, I did so. Let, I think, everyone imagine that I am also a rich man. Paid the down payment, got a car. He sat down, drove off, and immediately fell into ka-ah-ah-ha-nava (Kozlik even began to stutter from excitement). Auto-aha-mobile broke, you know, broke his leg and four more ribs.
        “Well, did you fix the car later?” Asked Dunno.
        - What are you! While I was sick, they drove me out of work. And then it's time to pay a fee for the car. But I don’t have money! Well, they say to me: then give the car-aha-ha-mobile back. I say: go, take it in kaa ha khanava. They wanted to judge me for ruining the car, but they saw that there was still nothing to take from me, and they got rid of it. So I didn’t have a car, nor money. ”
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 13 October 2017 08: 44 New
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        Quote: Vard
        Cancer treatment ... Stage 4 ... cost me in the Samara Oncology Center ... zero rubles ...
        What was cured ?!
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 11 October 2017 11: 33 New
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      Are you this nonsense seriously? belay Either you overslept all the 80s and 90s, or lived somewhere else or just too young to remember the times before Putin. I have no other explanation.
      Personally, I consider him one of the five best rulers of Russia in history. From this d-ma to pull out a huge country collapsing before our eyes and give it a powerful kick in the opposite direction was practically no chance. But he did it. If you do not understand this, then I strongly sympathize and advise you to look at Ukraine. belay Ukraine now is Russia before Putin.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 11 October 2017 12: 23 New
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        Vitaliy, hi love I totally agree! People apparently tend to quickly forget all the bad, but at the same time and what is good not to appreciate! EVERYTHING is blamed on Putin, from bad roads to the fact that a drunken neighbor spoiled the entrance. But for some reason no one asks the question, but how, by such a miracle, the country from the 90s became what it is now ?! Yes, there are a lot of problems, but where are they not ?! Yes, we have corruption, but in the USA this is called the lobby and it is completely legalized, and in which country there is no corruption ?! In Singapore ?! The very comparison of Russia and Singapore causes a wild laughter ... The people somehow quickly forgot that pensions and salaries were not paid for half a year or more. No, we don’t remember this anymore, but here are such “evolutionaries” like:
        “We are here because we no longer want Putin to be in power, and we support Navalny’s candidacy,” said 18 year old Artyom Telunts (Artyom Telunts). “We want Russia to be free, have a free press, free elections, free Internet ...” Therefore, Putin should “leave”.
        “It’s time for him to retire,” she said. 16-year-old Dasha Schastnaya (Dasha Schastnaya) on Pushkin Square in Moscow. “We need someone new and fresh, who is not just hungry for power.” Anyone who wants to do something for our country, make us perfect ”(“ to make us perfect ”).
        one idiot is 18 years old, the other is premature 16 and these degenerate children will decide who we need in power ?! We in the 90s were few or wanted to live in the extreme 404 country ?! AUUUU people ...?! Why are you, everything fell from the oak ?!
        Yes, I also want the revival of the USSR, BUT I understand that this is not realistic in modern conditions. Any attempt to change power will lead not to the construction of the USSR, but to the complete destruction of Russia, no one in the West will give us a second chance to rise after the collapse of the USSR! Is it really not clear to anyone screaming here about bad Putin ?! Are your brains completely dry ?!

        P.S. Vitaly, just for fun, and who do you think the other four outstanding leaders ?! I'll try to guess ... Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Catherine II, Joseph Stalin ...?!
        1. AA17
          AA17 11 October 2017 15: 05 New
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          Dear Diana. "... Any attempt to change the government will lead not to the construction of the USSR, but to the complete destruction of Russia ..." is your point of view. She is worthy of respect. But no one is going to build the USSR. This is a completed stage. I do not think that in this historical segment V. Putin is indispensable. (Just don't tell me about Navalny as the only candidate.). “There are no irreplaceable people, there are unique people” (c). In the 146 millionth country there are worthy citizens for the role of the Head of State. If it were otherwise, then Russia would have ceased to exist long ago.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 11 October 2017 16: 02 New
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            AA17 Today, 15:05 ↑
            Dear Diana
            With all due respect, below in the commentary I asked not to write slogans, but to bring concrete candidates for the post of head of state! You write:
            “There are no irreplaceable people, there are unique people” (c). In the 146 millionth country there are worthy citizens for the role of the Head of State. If it were otherwise, then Russia would have ceased to exist long ago.
            Sorry, but this is an empty slogan. I cannot but agree with the thesis that there are worthy people in the 146 millionth country, BUT this is not an answer to the question. And the question is simple to impossible: WHO is specifically worthy to replace V.V. Putin as head of a state like modern Russia ?! What is the name worthy in your opinion, the rest, as they say, lyrics ...
            Understand a simple thing, the USSR did not fall apart in 1991 and not under Gorbachev, although officially this is so. The USSR collapsed in 1953 with the death of Stalin! Exactly the same picture and now, with the departure of Putin, the country runs the risk of turning in the wrong direction, and then the dashing 90s may seem like flowers to us, that's what I'm afraid of!
            1. tracer
              tracer 12 October 2017 04: 43 New
              +1
              Amazing clarity of thought for a woman. I also think the death of the USSR came with the death of Stalin. Thanks Diana.
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 October 2017 13: 18 New
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        Quote: g1v2
        Personally, I consider him one of the five best rulers of Russia in history.

        I sympathize with you ...
        Quote: g1v2
        From such a d-ma pull out a huge country collapsing before our eyes

        mdyayaya .... and it doesn’t occur to you that the ebn created a comprador-oligarchic system with a raw material economy, and its successor lacquered?
        Do you know that for the two quarters of this year we have a negative balance of payments?
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 11 October 2017 13: 24 New
          +3
          Empathize. I'm violet. request
          Already talked about this topic, there is no point in repeating. So for checking swang. This year, economic growth is about 2 percent - plus minus half a percent. In the next I guess 3-4. At the same time, I do not predict a significant increase in oil prices. You seem to suggest a fall in GDP or stagnation. So let's check who understands more in economic processes. hi
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 11 October 2017 14: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: g1v2
            who in economic processes understands more.

            Best of all, he understands the "balance of trade" as one of the components of the balance of payments. And the “balance” means that it is negative. hi
          2. Spnsr
            Spnsr 11 October 2017 14: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: g1v2
            apparently suggest a fall in gdp or stagnation

            He suggests that Russia buys more than it sells!
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 11 October 2017 14: 31 New
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              Rosstat to help you and data for 2016. Learn a lot of new things. For example, that the foreign trade balance has been very positive for us in recent years. Data for 2017 will fail next year. Trying to refer to some scraps of intermediate data is an attempt to pull an owl onto the globe. We will talk about the trade balance of 2017 in February March next year. Not earlier. hi
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          4. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 11 October 2017 14: 59 New
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            Quote: g1v2
            So for checking swang. This year, economic growth is about 2 percent - plus minus half a percent.

            economic growth, measured in dollars, by 2 percent suggests that there is no growth since the dollar loses 2 percent of purchasing power every year
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 11 October 2017 12: 39 New
      +2
      Putin will leave, Medvedev will come. So, until 2050, not earlier. what
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 11 October 2017 12: 45 New
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        God forbid, God bless us again! Okay, in 2008, maybe it should have been so, to sweeten the pill to the West, but certainly not now! The walking iPhone has two favorite phrases: it is necessary to take measures (steps) to normalize and there is no money, but you hold on ...! As for me, Putin can only radically increase his already large electorate by sending ALL the Medvedev government to resign, with the exception of Shoigu and Lavrov!
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 October 2017 13: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Putin can only dismiss ALL of Medvedev’s government

          Diana! hi Will not send! This is flesh from a rogue, the essence is the same.
          The other day, I reread the work of N. Nosov, for which N. N. Krupskaya was awarded the State Prize of the RSFSR named after N. Krupskaya in 1969, this is for the trilogy of works about Dunno. The author’s insight in the part “Dunno on the Moon” .
          “- Why do the rich have so much money? - surprised Dunno. “Can a rich man eat a few million?”
          - “Eat”! - Kozlik snorted. - If only they ate! The rich man will satiate his belly, and then he will begin to saturate his vanity.
          “What vanity is this?” - Do not understand Dunno.
          “Well, this is when you want others to throw dust in their nose.”
          Recommend. hi
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 11 October 2017 13: 55 New
            +9
            Dunno, it’s certainly good, the question is what do you propose doing ?! No, I'm serious without sarcasm, what to do ?!
            Well, Putin is not happy with you, although it’s not entirely clear to me what exactly you are dissatisfied with, who is the president to prophesy ?! Well, I’m not Lesha Anal in fact ?! Who are the sane candidates ?!
            And then, you are an adult and must understand that in the current realities there will be no transition to the construction of socialism in Russia. So we must live and choose on the basis of what we have today, right ?! We can cry as much as you like about the deceased USSR who was in the Bose, but in reality he cannot be returned, at least not yet. What conclusions can be drawn from everything, only without empty slogans please ?!
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 11 October 2017 19: 00 New
              +2
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Who are the sane candidates ?!

              I would vote for Pavel Grudinin.
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              that there will be no transition to the construction of socialism in Russia in the current realities

              if you represent a citizen of air defense as doomed realities, then of course there will be no transition.
              Form a government of popular trust. All candidates were voiced by Boldyrev.
    5. very good
      very good 16 October 2017 12: 32 New
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      Nobody can remember this with a good word, balabolka. And remove the Kolovrat from the avatar, do not disgrace it with your existence.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 October 2017 09: 43 New
    +7
    Is Russia going to see Vladimir Putin again as president? Will he remain in the Kremlin chair, or will "try to create a copy of himself"?

    Europeans begin to sing this mantra before each of our elections. And with this promise, DON'T GIVE GOD TO CHOOSE!
    1. andj61
      andj61 11 October 2017 10: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: NEXUS
      Is Russia going to see Vladimir Putin again as president? Will he remain in the Kremlin chair, or will "try to create a copy of himself"?

      Europeans begin to sing this mantra before each of our elections. And with this promise, DON'T GIVE GOD TO CHOOSE!

      In addition to Putin, we have no one to choose! Although I would vote for Shoigu or Lavrov! fellow
      Europeans began to sing this mantra only in 2012. Neither in 2000 nor in 2004 there was anything like it, and in 2008 they all welcomed in unison the arrival of Medvedev in power. hi
      1. stas
        stas 11 October 2017 13: 48 New
        +3
        You are wrong, in Russia there are many more worthy than the tsar.
        But the thieving elite will keep the king to the last, like Brezhnev. They need him, he owes them, like Chubais.
        1. Spnsr
          Spnsr 11 October 2017 14: 47 New
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          Quote: stas
          But the thieving elite will keep the king to the last, like Brezhnev. They need him, he owes them, like Chubais.

          The thieving elite? Who is this?
          Those whom we ourselves choose in the Duma? Or to the government locally?
          With Chubais, it’s a real misunderstanding what kind of pepper that is held. But the question is he committed a crime? If you have anything, then you need to go to the prosecutor’s office.
          Or by elites, you mean the leadership of state-owned companies, well, this is envy. So then, and not only state-owned companies, but also private owners carry on themselves infrastructure and social projects. And this is also the merit of GDP. Previously, they only grabbed, and now more. And they are building.
          You know, I would also like a social state, but a quarter century ago they themselves vomited for private property, so get and sign.
          I would like to bring the child to the kindergarten for which I have already been paid. (⅓ the fee is returned), I would like to go to the store and I was already on the threshold holding out the necessary things, it was not necessary to roam between the shelves and pick and choose what to buy!
          I would like to ride on public transport for free!
          But at the expense of bulk, he himself is a thief, a matter of Kirovles. And what will end if he comes to power?
  3. askme
    askme 11 October 2017 10: 06 New
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    Putin, of course, will not go anywhere) Moses had a similar mission, although from a completely different opera, Semitic) The mission itself will tell Putin when he needs to leave, he is still very young for a state leader, just young in terms of his psychophysical qualities ... ) He will still be young after 2024) The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds live up to 100 years old, hereditary oligarchies who rule the world, so why should Putin, a completely different level and quality of leader, not work until at least 80 years old? I see no reason to the contrary. Russia needs to use its chance. She was too unlucky with the management for too long ...
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 October 2017 10: 14 New
    +3
    ... they poured some money over to the obstructed, that’s raising the little head ... bully
    1. andj61
      andj61 11 October 2017 13: 21 New
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      Quote: aszzz888
      ... they poured some money over to the obstructed, that’s raising the little head ... bully

      Moreover, it is clear in advance that he, in principle, has no chance - you will not register with a criminal record as a candidate for president. Apparently, because of this, he is being promoted and thrown up money: he has no chances in a personal confrontation with Putin, and at least there is reason to scream ... hi
  5. shuravi
    shuravi 11 October 2017 11: 07 New
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    But it’s curious, it didn’t occur to them that Putin would never be replaced by Navalny, but by a much more decisive pro-Russian politician?
    Which will fulfill at least one of the requirements of the West. In particular, after Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Crimea, there is no hysteria over the fact that Russia must observe the post-war borders.
    Only they forget that this border is one, the border is one, the border of the USSR. And what was the administrative division there, not their pig business.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 11 October 2017 13: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: shuravi
      Which will fulfill at least one of the requirements of the West. In particular, after Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Crimea, there is no hysteria over the fact that Russia must observe the post-war borders.

      Western politics indicates that the “demands” put forward by the public are always not true claims.
  6. Medvedem
    Medvedem 11 October 2017 11: 18 New
    +8
    Reading a similar article, you understand two things:
    1) This is not nonsense! This is the real reasoning of the western man in the street who is trying on a penguin's habits of a monkey.
    2) If at the turn of the 2000s, the West at least understood Russia a little in the context of behavior, now that Russia is going its own way, this is for the West: Wrong, Incomprehensible and Unacceptable.
  7. Varyag77
    Varyag77 11 October 2017 12: 00 New
    +3
    Quote: Antianglosaks
    If Putin leaves now, then no one will remember him with a kind word, because his deeds for the benefit of the Fatherland are, by and large, meager, inconspicuous and ineffective. All his merit - did not let the country fall into a tailspin, at the peak. But that’s all. After the Ebnov coup, the liberal course, driving the country into a dead end, has not changed; everything is going on in its own way, drawn by Westerners. However, he still has a chance to turn domestic politics and the economy to the people, and to the thief-oligarchs, a dupe. Maybe it will finish the job, and Russia will become a truly social state for its people, and not a western gas station ?!

    How old are you human? It seems that not much. You saw really starving people, you haven’t seen the 90s, for you can only forgive this nonsense to a young talent who has not yet had sperm toxicosis.
    Putin has already stood on a par with Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Catherine the Great and Stalin. Like it or not. And spew your pertuberty thoughts in a circle of people like you. Young and early. Knowing neither history nor truth
  8. Placebo
    Placebo 11 October 2017 12: 07 New
    +3
    It’s better than it was now, maybe in the 70s because it’s youth. Seriously, if now Putin will leave again, there will be full w. Only the beginning will flourish and then these bastards are bulk ... And, about the fight against corruption, right, funny, everyone around is stealing, starting with plumbing and ending with ministers. Small thieves scold large or envy ...
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  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 October 2017 12: 24 New
    +3
    Putin is a figure symbolizing Russia

    And not a bad trend making a profit for Western politicians and entrepreneurs.
    But this is already alarming, but not as touching
    expressed her opinion 16-year-old Dasha Schastnaya
    But isn’t it time for Navalny to be sent to places not so remote for attracting minors to shares in their favor? Hello parents! Do you know what your children are doing? Or you yourself with "hello."
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 11 October 2017 13: 45 New
      +2
      for attracting minors to shares in their favor


      No one is attracted anymore, and you have to deal with political pedophilia. laughing

      16-year-old Dasha does not have the right to elect and be elected; Cool help to Navalny. laughing
  10. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 October 2017 13: 05 New
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    The protests are so powerful that they are not noticeable even in a magnifying glass. laughing

    And noticeable only where, roughly speaking, snickering and concentrating ideological grant-eaters, i.e. in the metropolis. laughing

    Everyone evaluates Putin according to his inner conviction; but I propose to evaluate by contrast with the Yeltsinoid seven-bankers.

    Certainly not subject to comparison; I can’t understand by what criteria the widespread iksperdy, from the countries of rear-wheel democracy, evaluate the president.
  11. Sergey Fomin
    Sergey Fomin 11 October 2017 14: 07 New
    +3
    Forever Putin



    Three old asshole Zhirik, Zyu and fair Mironov, beaten by moth, mold, constantly pouring sand from the ass Grisha Yablochkin, the leader of shkolota, the giant Kirovles Navalny, and now this one, Ksyusha, the daughter of democracy. The entire Kunstkamera assembly, apparently in order to bring the election process itself to its final insanity, is to distribute a kind of megatrolling about power, give it 10 percent at all, then fix the victory over reason and continue the search for the bottom.

    Why this booth, for what? Why this game in transparent thimbles and without a ball at all? It’s easier to cancel this circus with horses and arrange a dictatorship, we live in Newfeudalism, but under feudalism, at least no one was hypocritical and did not pose as a democrat.
  12. Antonio_Mariarti
    Antonio_Mariarti 11 October 2017 15: 54 New
    +3
    It won’t go away, how can it throw a little country into turmoil, how, according to the same survey, more than half do not see Putin as an alternative, I think this will be his last term, during this time he will prepare a new receiver that will continue the course, now in most new regions the governors - Young by the standards of leadership 30-40 years. This suggests that the replacement is already a little ready and she is speaking, mb, someone in 6 years will be president, but he will certainly be young. And I hope that in 6 years we will achieve steady growth of at least at least 2 percent per year and an increase in life in the country, then it will be very good. In the meantime, everything is a little vague.
  13. Giants
    Giants 11 October 2017 18: 31 New
    +2
    andj61
    In addition to Putin, we have no one to choose!
    Putin makes Putin the media. If you deprive him of control over the media, what remains? A little gray something? Here is the slogan: If not Putin, then who? Terry Russophobia seems to me alone?
  14. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 11 October 2017 18: 34 New
    +2
    Right election campaign for Putin! Is this exactly written in the Western press? Not with the filing of Dvorkovich and others like him?
  15. Nemesis
    Nemesis 12 October 2017 02: 02 New
    +2
    In general, I believe that: All Yeltsin’s heirs have no place in power in the Russian Federation, and all Novodvorskaya fans have no place among Russian citizens.
    1. askme
      askme 12 October 2017 07: 56 New
      +1
      And who is Yeltsin? Member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, his heir. Does that mean that all followers of communist ideas also have no place? Logic can only be that way or it doesn’t exist at all, but only an irrational stupid hatred of specific personalities in history, without an understanding of its process ... All current power is what emerged from the CPSU anyway, it’s not Martians from Mars. And it is impossible to abandon your past, whatever it may be. The whole past, and not dismembered for the sake of someone’s emotions, child’s wishes ....
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 13 October 2017 01: 25 New
        +1
        And I'm not a fan of the Communist Party ...
  16. DV Coms
    DV Coms 12 October 2017 15: 04 New
    +2
    West let its leaders of at least orientation sends to the moon. And here we’ll sort it out ourselves without the advice of sworn “partners”. There are no alternatives to Putin at the moment, his health! Someone doesn’t think so? Rejecting - offer! Sound your candidacy for the post of head of state of the Russian !?
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 12 October 2017 16: 04 New
    +1
    Do the naive still think that Putin will leave and things will get better. For some reason, the West was silent and welcomed VV Putin until 2012 ..... although the provocation with Georgia in 2008 was the first bell! But when Russia began to rise, snarl, arm itself .... then suddenly all this garbage with despot Putin started out of nowhere and away we go, I generally keep quiet after the events in Crimea and Syria ... There is no alternative to Putin yet. Do not forget the history of Russia they fear and hate in the West not because of the rulers, but because it is a global counterweight to the West !!!
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  19. agel26r
    agel26r 13 October 2017 08: 09 New
    0
    The historical labels are held tight: Gorbachev ruined the USSR, Yeltsin ruined Russia, Putin lifted Russia from its knees.
    The hope is still strong that the GDP will create a union no less worthy in comparison with the USSR, and to some extent more powerful both politically and economically. And only when the circle closes, it is possible to send Putin with honors for a well-deserved rest and for many centuries to write him in history as a person who made the impossible in the eyes of the so-called “partners” drinks
  20. 72jora72
    72jora72 14 October 2017 08: 19 New
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    “It’s time for him to retire,” said 16-year-old Dasha Schastnaya
    belay lol as today's youth says--yapadstalom
    1. 23rus
      23rus 14 October 2017 08: 28 New
      +1
      CIA, for working with Russian youth in cities, a solid five!
  21. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 14 October 2017 09: 10 New
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    Quote: Antianglosaks
    However, he still has a chance to turn domestic politics and economics.

    wait-s ... wait-s ... we’re waiting for 18 years .. "the fortunate little thought gets richer!"
  22. Alecto
    Alecto 15 October 2017 15: 29 New
    0
    hmm ... here 700 came out, here 500, there are 2 thousand with millionaires cities. isn't it funny. may gentlemen move to a more favorable living environment. really stsuka 0,0000001% will decide and stink. what the hell. and devote news to this
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