Military Review

Russia and LDNR are driven into a hopeless situation! The first fruits of the “Belgrade meeting” and praises of “special status”

104

The transfer of a battery of Ukrainian transported howitzers 2А36 "Hyacinth-B" was fixed on Gorlovka ON. In case of their deployment under Svetlodarskoye, the radius of action will cover the Gorlovsko-Enakievskaya agglomeration and Debaltseve



How many naive appeals and hopes from the high-ranking officials of the foreign policy and other departments of the Russian Federation and LDNR regarding the so-called law “On the special status of Donbass” we have not heard in the last quarter! Thus, the plenipotentiary representative of Russia in the Tripartite Contact Group to resolve the situation in the Donbas Boris Gryzlov in September 2 times focused on the need to extend this "illusory" bill, which supposedly should stabilize the situation on the contact line between the territories controlled by the New Russia and the New Russia. The media attention focused on this utopian question as well as acting foreign ministers of Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics Vladislav Dayniy and Natalya Nikonorova, pointing out that there is no alternative to the law “On the special status of Donbass” in the implementation mechanism of the pseudo-world “Minsk agreements”.

And so, on October 6, the “long-awaited miracle” happened! The day after the fight and blocking the podium with the participation of people's deputies from “Samopomich” and the radical nationalist association “Freedom”, the illegitimately elected Ukrainian parliament approved the draft law “On the special status of Donbass” in the first reading, and with it the “most promoted” Law No. XXUMX “On the Reintegration of Donbass”. Recall that the clashes in the "Verkhovna Rada" between people's deputies from the above-mentioned radical nationalist parties and BPP are caused by a more radical extremist ideology of the first, which openly provides for military aggression against the Republic of Crimea.

Despite the opinion of the nationalists, the bills were successfully passed and signed by Valtsman (Poroshenko). Immediately, from Moscow, we heard optimistic eulogies of the so-called “special status” draft law extended to 1. Thus, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Peskov, noted that “the expiration of the bill, which came into force in 2014, caused everyone's concern,” and his statement allegedly became the guarantor of the implementation of the Minsk format, previously signed by the Russian side. In reality, everything is much more complicated and painful for both Moscow and the unrecognized republics of New Russia.

The first thing to note is the clause “on the need to withdraw all illegal paramilitary units from the territory of Donbass”, without which no “special status” is out of the question. As it is known, these formations are understood as the corps of the LDPR People’s Militia, which for the past 3 have been protecting the republics from the “Croatian scenario” of stripping with the total total genocide of the Russian population by the Ukrainian security forces. We are also talking about units of the regular army of Russia, which, unfortunately, are not yet available in the republics. Consequently, Kiev established obviously impracticable conditions for the implementation of the above draft law. This is not surprising, since the compilation of each of its items was carried out in accordance with Western European and American intelligence services. This point alone pushes Russia and the LDNR into a tight time frame for taking countermeasures, among which you can’t do without military tools, because the Ukrainian Armed Forces will receive military assistance in the form of lethal weapons in the foreseeable future, as well as electronic equipment to increase the level of network centrisam in battle. Let us not forget about the second reading, where the law “On the Reintegration of Donbass” will be finally adopted with some amendments providing for challenging Russian sovereignty over the Republic of Crimea.

In these bills, “Minsk format” no longer appears as a fundamental tool for the normalization of the operational-tactical situation on the line of contact; instead, they announce the transfer of all functions for the destruction of the republics from the hands of the SBU to the hands of the Joint Operational Headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is subject to Poroshenko. In simpler terms, Kiev is emerging from the outdated Minsk-2 and is embarking on a new bloody phase of escalation in the Donbas TVD, in which there is no place for either the Tripartite Contact Group or the “promising” Normandy Four. The main coordinating body here can be the Pentagon, acting jointly with the United Command of the US Armed Forces in Europe. The extremely alarming subtext of the Ukrainian bills laconically shed light on what is happening Russian political scientist, journalist, and also a native of the city of Shakhtersk, Dmitry Kulikov. He said that from the documents adopted in the parliament "Square", "the smell of gunpowder emanates," and the introduction of military control based on the operational headquarters is nothing more than a way out of "Minsk". What is even more interesting, they openly admit this in the camp of the enemy, and not some agonizing nationalists, but well-known pro-government people's deputies from the Blok Petro Poroshenko.

For example, one of the recent pearls was the statement by the deputy of the Ukrainian parliament from BPP Ivan Vinnyk, made for the Ukrainian TV channel ZIK. A member of the pro-presidential party, who personally voted for a “filkin diploma”, allegedly providing for “a special order of self-government in certain regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, noted that the “independent” power structures do not plan to implement the provisions of this law under any sauce, but solely for the purpose of “powdering the brains of the European partners,” moreover, none of its items can be carried out either in the short or long term.

Such statements, as well as the operational-tactical situation in the Donbass theater, make Moscow, Donbas and Russia an unambiguous hint that a constructive and peaceful settlement is not expected, and you will have to show a bearish grin, because the geostrategic ring around the Russian Federation continues to inexorably shrink! What is worth the deployment of 1-thousandth mixed international military contingent of Polish, Romanian, German, Italian and Portuguese soldiers, who, according to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, must confront the "Russian threat" in the littoral zone of the Black Sea. Even a person who is not tactically savvy and is not a military specialist or a psychic can notice that the militarization of precisely that section of the East European theater of operations, where all the prerequisites for the new escalation of the Moldovan-Transdniestrian conflict started, started; only an amateur can fail to notice this. But back to the topic of Donbass.

Remember how much attention was paid to the last meeting of advisor to the President of Russia Vladislav Surkov and US Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volcker, which took place in Belgrade on October 7 2017 of the year in Belgrade. The negotiations, which are positioned in the format of “reconciliation of hours”, were held in a completely closed mode in an unknown point of the city and without a press approach that is usual for the media. Obviously, the negotiations were very tense, and none of the parties made concessions, because the states are practically on the war path. Vladislav Surkov later noted the positive outcome of the negotiations, pointing to the found points of contact on the draft UN resolution on Donbas, previously proposed by Russia.

At the same time, in these seemingly positive consultations, you can find a number of serious pitfalls, because the Americans have long supported the Ukrainian format of the initiative to deploy the UN peacekeeping contingent throughout the republics, including the Russian border. It was on them, according to the White House, that the functions would be assigned to prohibit military support for NM LDNR from Russia during the general offensive of the Ukrainian military formations. Russia is certainly not going to change the resolution sent to the UN Security Council under the American format, because this step will completely “kill” our geopolitical authority and destroy the lives of more than 1,5 - 2 million people of Donbass, and other “points of contact” with the States here cannot be by definition. As a result, the statements made can only be interpreted as a reasonable maneuver to divert media attention.

If the negotiations really led to a constructive result, the first indicator of this would be a repeated decrease in the number of shelling of the front-line Donetsk-Makeyevka and Gorlovsko-Enakievo agglomerations. In fact, they received the most powerful evening strike from large-caliber barreled artillery against Gorlovka, as a result of which X-YUMX-year-old father of three children, Viktor Degai, died and more than 47 houses were destroyed and damaged. It happened exactly one day after the negotiations of Surkov and Volcker. Here you have all the "points of understanding"! Instead of trying to establish a dialogue with the Kiev cattle through shtatovskih mentors, it is high time to make an offensive throw at the LDNR western border occupied by the junta. They understand this both in Moscow and in Lugansk. It is well known that at the moment, the APUs have 10-3-xfold numerical superiority over the units of NM LDNR in terms of personnel and a slight superiority in the number of armored vehicles and artillery. At the same time, according to the motivation of the fighters, as well as coherence and tactical experience, the Republicans are noticeably ahead of the APU. In the hands of the sun of Novorossia, the fact that in the south-western section of the contact line along the Dokuchaevsk-Pavlopol line, the Ukrainian military units have only one powerful line of fortified areas on the western coast of Kalmius plays.

In the event of the intensification of hostilities, and after the operation to defend the thin “Telmanovsky Isthmus” from the tank attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the DNR Army will only have to squeeze the enemy out of Volnovakha and move to the south-west IT with a Mariupol tactical boiler and exit to the Crimean border. It is extremely difficult to predict even the approximate date of the escalation of the conflict against the background of so unpredictable moments at the legislative, geopolitical and operational-tactical levels. One thing is certain: one should act immediately (after the very first attempts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to break through the anti-tank and artillery frontiers of the republics), by the new year Kiev can receive the first tranche of military aid from the USA, Canada and Spain. The danger that the Ukrainian Armed Forces may later receive a “trial” batch of FGM-148 “Javelin” is preserved. An even more serious situation arises with the likely deployment of a joint Spanish-Ukrainian plant for the production of mobile 120-mm mortars such as "Alakran". At first glance, it may seem that these mortars will not provide any significant advantages to the Ukrainian militants, but this is absolutely not the case.


Mobile mortar "Alakran"


The brainchild of the Spanish company “Everis Aerospacial y Defensa SLU” (AED), the Ukrainian version of which is proposed to be called UKR-MMS (Mobile Mortar System), is unified with almost any heavy SUV (from Toyota Land Cruiser to Land Rover Defender) .The retractable combat module is represented by an 120-mm mortar with a range of up to 9 - 10 km (depending on the type of projectile) placed on a folding platform with an elevation and azimuthal hydraulic and electromechanical guidance drives. The combat module extends and retracts along sliding rail guides, also thanks to a hydraulic drive. The main advantage of the Alakran self-propelled mortar complex is the ability to start moving just a few seconds after the shot. Given the high-speed capabilities of the off-road platform, in combat, this may allow you to escape from the enemy’s counter-battery fire, equipped with counter-battery artillery surveillance radars.

Thus, for the confident defeat of the Alacranes to the artillerymen NM LDNR, in addition to the Aistenok and the Zoo, you will need momentary optical-electronic / radar information from UAVs or radio reconnaissance aircraft, because during the flight of the ответ response, the Ukrainian operators of Alacrana can leave from the calculated position far enough.

Information sources:
https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/981185.html
http://defence-blog.com/army/alakran-mortar-carrier-system-secured-first-export-order-from-a-middle-east-customer.html
http://rian.com.ua/analytics/20171007/1028333200.html
http://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/10/08/surkov-priotkryl-zavesu-taynykh-peregovorov-s-volkerom-po-donbassu.html
Author:
104 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Knowing
    Knowing 11 October 2017 06: 51
    22
    Well, if according to Damantsev, then it should be taken only like this: Or "Katz offers to give up"? ....
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 11 October 2017 07: 20
      18
      Ukraine, and not Donbass, has driven itself into a hopeless situation. And the fact that Volker and Surkov rubbed each other absolutely does not change anything. It remains to wait until something drastically changes in Ukraine.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 11 October 2017 19: 22
        +7
        But nothing has changed :: Minsk-2 unequivocally said “through consultations with LDNR”, and if there were no consultations, LDNR will not sacrifice anything and will not have to disarm anyone. Moreover, Russia already a month ago stated that in the event of active hostilities launched by the Armed Forces, we have the right to help the militia (presumably, volunteers and weapons).
    2. Sunjar
      Sunjar 11 October 2017 09: 30
      16
      Again, everything was gone, again Putin merged everything. The United States, of course, is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian, but they don’t want to scoop up the cabbage soup anyway. No one wants to sign up for a known loser. I remind you that more recently, under the Idlib of the US unit of their ISIS irregular troops (banned in the Russian Federation), etc. were smashed to smithereens. What our Ministry of Defense did not hesitate to make a statement about.
      And about the troops, armored vehicles, etc. etc. they write every day and every day they write that they are about to attack the LDNR. How much can you hysteria?
      It also touches me whining about the fact that the Minsk Agreement is not being implemented. Question: to whom are the Minsk Agreements disadvantageous? Us or USA, EU and Ukraine? Opponents from Russia under these agreements, which side are you on? If they abandon our position, then the United States, the EU and Ukarin will put forward their own, and we will remain completely out of position. And in general we cannot insist on anything.
    3. Fylhtq
      Fylhtq 11 October 2017 11: 12
      13
      The fact that the Minsk agreements were obviously losing, it was clear back in '14, they gave urine to rebuild their army and gain strength, now a quick defeat as at 14 would not work. And with these agreements, the Russian Federation drove itself into a certain framework, the observance of which is required of it.
      1. Sunjar
        Sunjar 11 October 2017 14: 06
        +7
        What are you saying smile if the “Minsk agreements” are obviously losing, then why not fulfill them? Why are Western media (SMRAD - a mass media advertising, agitation, misinformation) and Western politicians hysterical? I repeat: the United States and its irregular military units in the form of ISIS, etc. (banned in the Russian Federation) raked in Syria to the fullest. I’m sure that the urogenerals are directly rushing into the battle (not themselves naturally), and the United States will not let them in, as they know very well that they will be beaten to pieces. They don’t get strong there. And the ammunition also has to be destroyed.
        1. jjj
          jjj 11 October 2017 15: 42
          +2
          Poroshenko is slowly usurping power. And the named laws are steps in this direction. No more. In Russia they understand this
        2. Fylhtq
          Fylhtq 11 October 2017 21: 22
          +3
          Have you read these very Minsk agreements? According to them, the Donbass, more precisely one third of it, is returned to the urine, not even as autonomy, but just like that, with some kind of petty powers. All units of the militia are disarmed, since according to the laws of ukrin, they are unlawful, at the same time all kinds of aidars and dung remain, since they have long been in the state of the Ukr and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of urine. After the disarmament of the militia, and the Urains taking control of the border with the Russian Federation, the next day the purely symbolic special status will be canceled and the amnesty will be canceled, Lavrov will certainly express concern about this, but what about her.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 15 October 2017 18: 50
            +5
            Quote: Fylhtq
            Have you read these very Minsk agreements? According to them, the Donbass, more precisely one third of it, is returned to the urine, not even as autonomy, but just like that, with some kind of petty powers. All units of the militia are disarmed, since according to the laws of ukrin, they are unlawful, at the same time all kinds of aidars and dung remain, since they have long been in the state of the Ukr and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of urine. After the disarmament of the militia, and the Urains taking control of the border with the Russian Federation, the next day the purely symbolic special status will be canceled and the amnesty will be canceled, Lavrov will certainly express concern about this, but what about her.

            what what what along the way, you read the Minsk agreement in the presentation of Ukrainians !!! lol lol lol
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 15 October 2017 19: 07
              +8
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              along the way, you read the Minsk agreement in the presentation of Ukrainians !!!

              Not, IMHO not so: "I did not see, did not read, did not try a tooth. But the opinion - I have" laughing
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 15 October 2017 19: 11
                +4
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                along the way, you read the Minsk agreement in the presentation of Ukrainians !!!

                Not, IMHO not so: "I did not see, did not read, did not try a tooth. But the opinion - I have" laughing

                mmmmmmmmm ... also a sensible version !!! wassat lol lol lol good good good
                1. Fylhtq
                  Fylhtq 16 October 2017 16: 03
                  0
                  You quote yourself, laugh yourself; in a word, deer.
            2. Fylhtq
              Fylhtq 16 October 2017 16: 01
              0
              They are in one exposition, and they are on the Internet, read, otherwise you are trying to prove something without reading it.
      2. Andrey Fuchs
        Andrey Fuchs 11 October 2017 16: 20
        +8
        Russia is not a party to the conflict! Officially, it sounds like that! Unofficially, maybe it’s really possible to drop in tanks and liberate Kiev ??? !!!
      3. The comment was deleted.
        1. Fylhtq
          Fylhtq 19 October 2017 02: 19
          0
          Is a normal person could compose this nonsense? If there had not been a referendum in the Donbass, we would have shared the fate of Kharkov, which did not hold a referendum, and also did not take up arms. The referendum was held as agreed with the curators. Putin was just scared to take Odessa and Kharkov.
          1. Dr. FuManchu
            Dr. FuManchu 20 October 2017 00: 52
            0
            1- a link to the fact that Putin was going to "take Odessa and Kharkov" can provide, as well as a link to the "curators"?
            2- Putin was scared? Have you ever seen a scared Putin? I’m not here, but you Ukrainians see everything and know everything
            3-What do you dislike about the thesis that neither Russia nor Putin NEEDS ANYTHING for you? After all, it’s you yourself that the Ukrainians Donetsk and Lugansk that Russia you kind of betrayed and were going to panovuet together with Ukrainians on the wreckage of the USSR and then Russia


            4-just the same, if you hadn’t held a referendum, everything would have been exactly as I wrote above — the rag in Kiev began to exterminate each other, and the troops and cops self-cut. So there’s no need for nonsense
            Here is another movie for you


            as a keepsake, eat don’t get covered and this is no longer necessary to vainly mention the Russian world, to which you have no relationship
            1. Fylhtq
              Fylhtq 20 October 2017 09: 21
              0
              You link to the fact that Putin was going to take the Southeast Usrains, look at his video for April 3, 14. Show you a frightened Putin? Look, the king is naked
            2. Fylhtq
              Fylhtq 20 October 2017 10: 14
              0
              At the expense of Ukrainians, you overheated slightly, Donbass is the same Russian land as those that are now part of the Russian Federation, and until the 20s of the 20th century it was never part of the country, some were generally part of the territory of the Don Army. As for the referendum of 91 years, you probably are not aware of your meager stupidity that this was the second referendum. The RFSSR adopted a declaration of sovereignty on June 12, 1990, Ukrainians accepted it, even later only on July 16. At the first referendum in March 1991, the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of Donbass, like Kharkov, spoke in favor of preserving the USSR. A few months later, the second referendum was held in which the same people participated, but the result was fundamentally different, as one would expect, the Kiev princes, like the Kremlin princes, by all means decided to finish what they started, and already decided not to rely perhaps as in March, but simply counted the votes as they needed. Why did you throw this video where it was shot? By whom? It was shot not even by one video with a camera that does not turn off, but cut into pieces, the usual manipulation now known to everyone. The difference between the maydanut Ukrainians and stubborn zaputintsy (like you), there is not any, only the color of the flag and the name of the idol, some Bandera, others pu. Both of them live not with their own brains, but with official propaganda.
              1. Dr. FuManchu
                Dr. FuManchu 12 November 2017 21: 30
                0
                Of course Ukrainians, even now I have provided you with a document from the archives of Ukraine, and here you are returning like a hohloshluha at a community work day.
                I met the first hohlogastarbeiters in the Russian Federation back in 1999, hired our Fuhrer team of masons to build a cargo garage, I talked a lot with them, after completing the work they covered a clearing and flooded the factory sauna and thumped together, well, the money is already in their hands, B I drank my belly and had a snack, then I got drunk and suffered a lot of interesting things about myself in Russian, I learned that we are a nation of drunks and lazy people, we can’t even lay down a brick for us and we can’t show a day without vodka on the table, to my question and who called you here to save us from laziness and drunkenness? " I feel sorry for you orphans, so you’ll die in bast shoes, but here we will join NATO and the EU. That brigade was from Donetsk and the year was 1999, by the way, a couple of weeks after their departure, the towers in the USA fell 09-09-09.
                So don’t screw a crest - you don’t go to Donetsk with a crest and didn’t stick under the stick, and you wanted to panovat on the wreckage of Russia, but now you decided to call yourself the “Russian world”.
                Listen to GOOD advice - before shouting that you are the Russian world, for a start repent at least for betraying that world, instead of hohloshluha spinning around on a community work day
                1. Fylhtq
                  Fylhtq 14 November 2017 15: 08
                  0
                  hohlusha, from the archive of Ukraine, but where was this video taken? Nowhere is it indicated that it was filmed in Donetsk or Lugansk, and judging by the conversation it was not filmed with us. Do you make claims for the video filmed in Kiev or Poltava, the residents of Donbass? Are you completely ruffled? A horse, a story about how a team from DONETSK spoke about how “I feel sorry for you orphans, you’ll die in bast shoes, but we’ll join NATO and the EU,” you can tell your mother, MAYBE and believe it. READ the defective level of support for NATO and the EU before the war in Donetsk and Lugansk, before carrying this nonsense, in 99 he was around 30% throughout the country, and in Donetsk a few percent. And still, in Donetsk there were good salaries at the construction site, so that I went to the Russian Federation to the construction site from Donetsk (albeit there are higher salaries, but rented accommodation, trips, all brought to nothing), I did not know such cases, you confuse us again you lie and lie. The crested ass was turned by your mother, and apparently you were born from there, since you are trying to confuse someone with your primitive fairy tales, then let her repent that she degenerated such a WELL like you.
    4. Sasha71
      Sasha71 11 October 2017 11: 32
      20
      And who owns this "Military Review"? Ginzburgs, steynmakham, Finkelstein? It seems that the concept of “Russia” in the articles is chastenously replaced by the dubious epithets “Moscow” and “Kremlin” characteristic of the western and liberoid podskoy mass media, the mass of articles with provocative ambiguous content is “lost”. the leaders are comments of this kind. This pattern is characteristic of portals and forums funded from the United States. And just do not drag in a "theory of conspiracy." Conspiracies are blooming. even dividing scanty apartments in Khrushchev, and raising the comment up is one click of the portal programmer’s button.
      1. Sasha71
        Sasha71 11 October 2017 11: 55
        28
        The Kremlin’s tactics are justified: if the rat’s feed base is taken away, then they begin to bite each other. It is not necessary to fight with them, but to block the recharge. Ukraine is a colony of the USA. In the worst form. Therefore, it is not necessary to fight with her (war with her is a blue state dream). Bring mutual hatred to the point of no return. And the best way is mass casualties. Therefore, you must not beat the stick. and not even by the hand holding it, but by the owner of that hand. And to beat not with weapons, but helping that mess and the impending civil war in the USA, so that they were not up to Donbass and Ukraine. Then all Russophobia in Ukraine, in the Baltic states and Europe will become more crowded and turn into a whining: Putin - save. Then it will be possible to think whether to save them.
        1. Andrey Fuchs
          Andrey Fuchs 11 October 2017 16: 23
          +5
          Sasha! Krasaucheg! From the first to the last letter I support you!
        2. Nerobot
          Nerobot 11 October 2017 20: 43
          +1
          Yes, yes with their bacon, and with mattresses for scraps. Apply the tactics of color revolutions against themselves.
        3. pasheka
          pasheka 11 October 2017 22: 59
          +2
          Sasha 71-all to the point !!!! It is a pity that only a few people reason like that, therefore, they don’t complain about the quality of life! ((((Lokhov by nature do not want darkness and seek knowledge, but therefore they don’t understand what is happening around us all over the Planet. It’s not interesting! ((((Everyone has a purely mercantile interest and nothing more! .... And the mess in America really needs help and this is a much more effective weapon. I understand that you, Sasha-71, have a gradation of the effectiveness of weapons for different purposes- I’m starting from less to more .... military. genetic, world money, history, ideology.
          1. Sasha71
            Sasha71 12 October 2017 18: 29
            +3
            Pasheka, such a prioritization teaches BER and DOTA. But you can’t argue with science. It’s just that the United States and its colony-Ukraine are of the highest priority. Worldview and ideology - perverted, history - sheer lies. As in the case of the United States and Ukraine, a healthy ideology is impossible, since the states were originally created on the basis of the genocide of the Indians, and Ukraine is an artificial education, collected by rags, with an invented language and hastily concocted history. This is a weak spot for both the owners and the natives.
      2. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 11 October 2017 12: 39
        +6
        And who owns this "Military Review"?

        See, as they say, in the root! hi bully
    5. Aspid 57
      Aspid 57 11 October 2017 18: 19
      +1
      You got ahead of me! That is what I wanted to hang out!
  2. vovanpain
    vovanpain 11 October 2017 06: 52
    14
    The author stop panic, there are no hopeless situations, but
    How many naive appeals and hopes from the high-ranking officials of the foreign policy and other departments of the Russian Federation and LDNR regarding the so-called law “On the special status of Donbass” we have not heard in the last quarter!

    Here I completely agree, flirting with the juntyatmati is not doing well. yes
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 11 October 2017 07: 15
      14
      Quote: vovanpain
      Author stop panic

      Never before in history have new state formations been formed according to the laws adopted by one of the warring parties.
      By contracts, etc., they draw up for the order the already existing real state of affairs.
      That is, as the leader of the world proletariat taught, when the tops of banderlogov cannot control the bottoms, which, in turn, cannot obey the tops as cannon fodder and source of income.
      And in order for it to become so necessary, it is not laws at all, with powerful and high-precision strikes on punishers of the ATO, economic restrictions and effective counter-propaganda.
      And the laws ... The laws will be rewritten as needed. yes
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 11 October 2017 07: 22
        14
        Quote: Alekseev
        And in order for it to become so necessary, it is not laws at all, with powerful and high-precision strikes on punishers of the ATO, economic restrictions and effective counter-propaganda.

        A colleague agrees, but these high-precision punishment attacks are not observed, on the contrary they give hands to the militia, and it’s ridiculous to talk about economic situations request The main investor in the Ukrainian economy is Russia, as they say money does not smell. request
        Quote: Alekseev
        effective counter-propaganda

        In my opinion, we are here at VO more effectively conduct counter-propaganda than our tops. Sincerely, Colleague! hi
    2. iConst
      iConst 11 October 2017 14: 22
      +3
      Quote: vovanpain
      there are no hopeless situations, but

      There are bad and very bad. And also catastrophic.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 October 2017 07: 02
    18
    Russia and LDNR are driven into a hopeless situation!

    The heading and especially the exclamation point after it indicates that. that the author is not only a defeatist. but also a provocateur. And the author did not think that even the United States could not drive Russia into a corner today? But following the logic of the author, Ukraine will calmly drive. Crap dog (I apologize to the administrators).
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 11 October 2017 11: 58
      +8
      Dear, rotmistr60, but how do you like this ..
      Such statements, as well as the operational and tactical situation in the Donbass theater, make Moscow, Donbass and Russia an explicit hint
      The author separated Moscow from Russia. Think by accident?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 11 October 2017 12: 01
        +3
        Judging by the meaning of becoming not accidental. As they say read, but the sediment remained.
  4. Stas157
    Stas157 11 October 2017 07: 11
    17
    . At the same time, according to the motivation of the fighters, as well as the coherence of actions and tactical experience, the Republicans are noticeably ahead of the Armed Forces.
    On one motivation you will not come up. And the motivation of the defenders of the Donbass has fallen markedly. At the same time, how disappointment came from the treacherous Minsk conspiracies, from the cleansing of all people's commanders, from the fact that the Donbass property remained in the hands of the Ukrainian oligarchs, and two small and unrecognized fragments of unknown territory by Russia are managed by Moscow curators. That is, instead of the Novorossiya project, two puppet republics turned out.
    1. Sasha71
      Sasha71 11 October 2017 12: 07
      +6
      The cleansing of people's commanders and oligarchization are key moments. Until the true culprits of the murders of Mozgovoy, Dremov, Bednov, Givi, Motorolla are discussed, there can be no talk of victory or justice. As for oligarchization: Russia is chosen from oligarchic rule, very slowly, but the trend, in my opinion, is clear. And Donbass, Ukraine is part of the oligarchic system in the territory of the former USSR and is subject to general trends. it will be a long process, at least requiring careful preparation, which cannot be untied from global politics either. Again, this is highly dependent on the fall of the United States. Therefore, efforts to break up the United States are a priority. They formed the oligarchic rule of the former USSR and only with their weakening can they be rid of the oligarchs.
  5. The comment was deleted.
  6. The comment was deleted.
  7. Mik13
    Mik13 11 October 2017 07: 40
    26
    On Gorlovka OH, a battery transfer of Ukrainian transported howitzers 2A36 Hyacinth-B was recorded.

    Dear authors of articles! I would like to recall that the information resource is called "Military Review", and not "Beer Patriot", "Sofa Hamster" or "Advanced shkolota".

    2A46 is not a howitzer at all. A very cannon. She has a barrel length of 50 calibers. This is the same as confusing a tank with a BMP or a submachine gun with an automatic rifle.
    For a resource that specializes in military topics, such errors are categorically unacceptable. They raise a completely logical question - does the author understand at least something in military affairs? Or is he just writing like that?
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 11 October 2017 08: 18
      +6
      Quote: Mik13
      Dear authors of articles! I would like to recall that the information resource is called "Military Review", and not "Beer Patriot", "Sofa Hamster" or "Advanced shkolota".

      However, all articles are pre-tested ...... Questions to moderators ... But they are more likely to monitor profanity rather than the veracity of the proposed material. hi
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 11 October 2017 11: 54
        +2
        I agree with you, I have a ban for Lavrov. And his photographs with DB laid out many times and nothing. And on the subject of Minsk agreements, this bullshit is fulfilled only by LDNR!
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 11 October 2017 10: 25
      +1
      I suggest for such shoals administrators ban these affftorav !!!!!)))
    3. bk316
      bk316 11 October 2017 14: 25
      +2
      2A46 is not a howitzer at all. A very cannon. She has a barrel length of 50 calibers.

      Well, firstly, not 46 but 36.
      Secondly, I have written in the military commander howitzer guns 2a36.
      So geocint and gun and howitzer
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 11 October 2017 15: 27
        +1
        Quote: bk316
        Well, firstly, not 46 but 36.
        Of course. This is a missprint.

        Quote: bk316
        Secondly, I have written in the military commander of the gun-howitzer 2-36.

        And in all regulatory documents, it is referred to as a "gun." For example,
        152mm gun 2A36. Fundamentals of the device and preparation for combat use.

        Accordingly, the most likely reason for such an ambiguous record in your documents is the error of the writer.
  8. uhu189
    uhu189 11 October 2017 09: 57
    +9
    After reading this article, I had a question for the author - well, they broke through the tank divisions of the fortified area near the Telman Isthmus, squeezed parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Volnovakha, and developed an offensive against the Crimea (although it seems fantastic, well, God bless him), and then what ? Go to Kiev? Or is Ukraine capitulating right away? Having 3-4's multiple superiority in forces and unlimited in the event of an offensive supply of weapons from NATO and controlled from the United States? Does the author even understand a little what he offers and what he says? Further, a multi-day meat grinder devastating the ranks of the People’s Police of the DPR and LPR (and possibly the Russian Federation) with very vague prospects ... A war without end, where on the both sides the Russians are essentially dying ... And even if it succeeds in overthrowing the power in Kiev - What, everyone will immediately accept and love us there? There is no military solution already. It was, in 2014, but for some reason it was not used. And Minsk, with all its filthiness, is at least some attempt to avoid a lot of blood and keep the situation at least under some, but control.
    1. sergevonsohrn
      sergevonsohrn 11 October 2017 11: 49
      +4
      the thing is that on these "Minsk agreements" banderlogs "put with the device"! and Moscow grabbed hold of them in their grip ... perhaps it is still profitable. but to act on the principle of "until the thunder strikes ....." in this situation, I think it is futile! it is necessary, nevertheless, to stay ahead of possible events .....
    2. Fulcrumxnumx
      11 October 2017 14: 13
      +6
      What kind of control talk? You live in Donetsk, Gorlovka or Bezymenny, where your favorite "Minsk" almost every day takes the lives of civilians! It is because of Minsk that the NM of the DPR has no opportunity to push the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the borders of the region, thereby depriving their gunners of their reach when shelling major cities of the republics! Who's great at trying to control is us! If such a passive will continue, the Global Hawk will not fly over Mariupol, but over Novoazovsk, but here there is an untidy sea for optics: and THREAD under Yeysk and other objects! We build powerful NATO fortifications under our nose near Transnistria. Do you propose to sit on and watch? Is everything fine with your head ?! You are talking about "NATO weapons" and a complete utopian counter-offensive. Is there really no such support for the armies of the republics ?! Forgot about the "North Wind"? And in general, what kind of reasoning can be when our people from the Donbass are killed at our borders! It is unacceptable! Soon you will see for yourself ... Only one way out of this conflict! And do not rush to rank those Slavs who, from positions near Sartana, bombard the houses of the Comintern, to our brothers. For us, these are bad people, albeit of Slavic origin ..
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 11 October 2017 16: 04
        +1
        Dear Fulcrum29, if you take a little emotion under control and weigh the pros and cons, you will understand that without the direct participation of the RF Armed Forces it will not be possible to move the front line from Gorlovka and Donetsk, just the people’s militia will not have enough forces. Not because they say bad fighting, but because the APU has a numerical superiority. And as soon as the RF intervenes there, the APU will not only have javelins. Well, look further, they pushed the front line from Donetsk - and what, will the problem be solved or what? It will be only conditionally Konstantinovka with Kramatorsk under shelling. Yes, for Donetsk it will be easier and safer, but not for them ... And then what will you do?
    3. zenith
      zenith 11 October 2017 16: 45
      +2
      I absolutely agree with you. It was all before our eyes. Not a fledgling herd of (precisely) banderlogs - let's give them time to fledge. 2014 - a clear superiority and the full ability to “knock down” everyone - again, stop - the team is back, we will give the opportunity to recover. No, of course you can hiss from head to toe, like what are you talking about. But it was so in front of everyone - even a blind man saw, and a deaf man heard that it was so. What for!? Such a strategy - do not put out and glow? Then I hope that made sense !? Or maybe they just repeated the Ossetian scenario - they kicked it and walked away in the hope that the banderlogs would be frightened by the ridge near Debaltseve and go home like Georgians.
  9. BAI
    BAI 11 October 2017 10: 16
    +4
    If the Armed Forces of Ukraine believe that they can use Alakran with impunity, the frequency of shelling with its use will increase significantly.
  10. brats
    brats 11 October 2017 10: 40
    +7
    Bullshit for idiots.
  11. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 11 October 2017 10: 50
    +4
    Yes, reading this is not very pleasant. But I'm not just sure, I know that clever Putin will do everything right and in the way that will be better for DLNR and Russia.
    1. zenith
      zenith 12 October 2017 09: 50
      +1
      Well, of course, he will rule, except for him there is nobody. And if he doesn’t even rule out no offense, he’s alone, how can he keep up with him alone. And Wim replace the air, and pave roads.
  12. Santor
    Santor 11 October 2017 10: 58
    +7
    At the very beginning, I actively wrote on this forum, but lately it has essentially turned into a branch if not Rain, then something like that. I won’t even comment on this .... I don’t have any information whatsoever to discuss what is happening from the point of view of the local crushed sofa and then draw far-reaching conclusions, at the end of which looms - Putin wow
  13. Cynic
    Cynic 11 October 2017 11: 00
    +1
    But it’s good that I have a runny nose, I could not read Chesslov ...
  14. Music
    Music 11 October 2017 11: 00
    +2
    The war, of course, will follow the Croatian scenario. All parties are getting ready. But before the World Cup 18 we are forced to sit. Quiet...
  15. Dmitry Kuzhilney
    Dmitry Kuzhilney 11 October 2017 11: 03
    +1
    A lot of buccaff, as they would say on the "Boa". The entire content of the opus could fit in one phrase: "Putin, send troops!"
  16. ver_
    ver_ 11 October 2017 11: 17
    +2
    Quote: Knowing
    Quote: Mik13
    Dear authors of articles! I would like to recall that the information resource is called "Military Review", and not "Beer Patriot", "Sofa Hamster" or "Advanced shkolota".

    However, all articles are pre-tested ...... Questions to moderators ... But they are more likely to monitor profanity rather than the veracity of the proposed material. hi

    ... they sometimes * normatively * extort * from which the meaning of the sentence changes .., as well as even church words are deleted .., the name of some solvents is banned ..- see not techies - humanities ..
  17. Lis_96
    Lis_96 11 October 2017 11: 26
    +1
    As much as one would not like to resolve the matter by the world, Russia will probably have to use military force, forcing the independents to peace.
  18. Santor
    Santor 11 October 2017 11: 32
    +6
    The author does not panic ... He purposefully leads everyone by the pen to Bolotnaya Square ... In the end, Putin is to blame for everything, he must leave and give way to real patriots - then anyone on the list .. no matter who, but Putin must leave. I didn’t even read this whole vyser ... From some point, the forum where I wrote daily and posted my articles turned into some kind of direct branch of "Rain" ...

    What Volcker framed there and no one knows Surkov .... But everyone writes and they write their words .... Did they sit under the table or what? They threw a battery of decrepit hyacinths .. Carl battery !!!! And now the noise-din .... And where, by the way, is the battery transfer switch? My relatives live in Donetsk ... We communicate every day ... and so - when shells and mines burst on Facebook on the outskirts of Donetsk, my people say - well, everything is quiet, just from the street, from Avdeevka’s side there’s a rare rifle shooter, but it’s like the clatter of flies and the roar of mosquitoes, it’s a kind of evening decoration, we’ve got used to it.

    People who post pretend that they do not see my posts and continue to escalate ... And in the end, always - until you endure !!!! We spit on the Kremlin people and go on fighting .... Wow, let's
    1. Oleko
      Oleko 11 October 2017 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: Santor
      Santor Today, 11:32 PM New
      The author does not panic ... He purposefully leads everyone by the pen to Bolotnaya Square ... In the end, Putin is to blame for everything, he must leave and give way to real patriots - then anyone on the list .. no matter who, but Putin must leave. I didn’t even read this whole vyser ... From some point, the forum where I wrote daily and posted my articles turned into some kind of direct branch of "Rain" ...
      What Volcker framed there and no one knows Surkov .... But everyone writes and they write their words .... Did they sit under the table or what? They threw a battery of decrepit hyacinths .. Carl battery !!!! And now the noise-din .... And where, by the way, is the battery transfer switch? My relatives live in Donetsk ... We communicate every day ... and so - when shells and mines burst on Facebook on the outskirts of Donetsk, my people say - well, everything is quiet, just from the street, from Avdeevka’s side there’s a rare rifle shooter, but it’s like the clatter of flies and the roar of mosquitoes, it’s a kind of evening decoration, we’ve got used to it.
      People who post pretend that they do not see my posts and continue to escalate ... And in the end, always - until you endure !!!! We spit on the Kremlin people and go on fighting .... Wow, let's
      Reply Quote Complaint

      CANCEL ADD COMMENT
      Santor
      0

      And you say, dear bloggers, that "hazing" was plagued by troops. Maybe it was plagued, but they forgot about information troops. Inform-"grandfathers" were threaded into the service for carving, they are preparing to inform-"demobilization", and inform-service are carried by inform-"salagi", such opuses appear out of inexperience. lol But seriously, I agree with many that the level of articles has fallen sharply. The article should make the mind work, not emotions. Read the clever comments of military experts, give your own, if you have something to say, and if there is nothing, then keep silent. In my opinion, the point of application of forces is not Ukraine, but Syria. There is now a duel between the United States and the Russian Federation.
  19. nikvic46
    nikvic46 11 October 2017 11: 51
    +1
    It’s very difficult to comment on the author. First, I don’t know the situation in Donbass. The analyst should offer a way out
    critical situations, otherwise it turns into the personal opinion of the author. I am tormented by the question. Are analysts military people?
    If this person serves in the army, then his tone should be more restrained, and in no case should be passed on to the reader
    a sense of uncertainty in our armed forces. Our people have enough stressful things without such scribbling.
  20. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 11 October 2017 12: 29
    +2
    Well, here is America’s response to our Syrian successes. The vile - pig position of exceptional transatlantic scoundrels in relation to the Ukrainian people, They are not interested in the death of civilians in the Donbass. Mercury and their lackeys are interested in personal mercantile interests. The West has been and remains a vile disgusting cattle for the rest of the world.
  21. Donch4ak
    Donch4ak 11 October 2017 12: 34
    +3
    They drove themselves into a corner for a long time as soon as Minsk signed. Called a cargo, climb into the box. Otherwise, it was not hell and start it all .... By the way, about 80% of LDNR residents think so, to which I belong. Many believe that Russia has betrayed them ... I left it myself with the APU. Betrayed by the fact that he does not allow to give an otvetku .... And from non-humble heroes made, posthumously
    1. Dmitry Donetsk
      Dmitry Donetsk 11 October 2017 14: 22
      +2
      Quote: Donch4ak
      Otherwise, it was not hell and start it all

      That's it, if you didn’t know what to do with Donbass, then why was it necessary to start support? So the referendum would have passed and that would have ended there, as in Kharkov.
  22. Albert Zubarev
    Albert Zubarev 11 October 2017 12: 34
    +1
    In these bills, Russia is called the aggressor country. However, in Minsk, Kiev entered into agreements with the authorities of the DPR / LPR, recognizing the essentially civilian nature of the armed conflict. Russia, along with France and Germany, acted as a guarantor of the implementation of the agreements. In fact, by adopting these laws, Ukraine creates a huge problem for itself and for its Western partners. France and Germany are quite capable of fixing the actual (through the adoption of new legislation) denunciation of the Minsk agreements by Kiev and relieve themselves of responsibility for further events. And then the Georgian version and the collapse of Ukraine.
  23. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 11 October 2017 12: 54
    0
    Quote: Mik13
    On Gorlovka OH, a battery transfer of Ukrainian transported howitzers 2A36 Hyacinth-B was recorded.

    Dear authors of articles! I would like to recall that the information resource is called "Military Review", and not "Beer Patriot", "Sofa Hamster" or "Advanced shkolota".

    2A46 is not a howitzer at all. A very cannon. She has a barrel length of 50 calibers. This is the same as confusing a tank with a BMP or a submachine gun with an automatic rifle.
    For a resource that specializes in military topics, such errors are categorically unacceptable. They raise a completely logical question - does the author understand at least something in military affairs? Or is he just writing like that?

    Here, on the "Military Review", the moderators need to ban political cries and snot. But it would be good to survey military positions and military construction in LNR. With personnel policy in military construction in the republics, very good. different in real life, it’s connected, but you can somehow shrink this topic and even cover it with a veil of secrecy. Like, I won’t write how I don’t like MO DPR. Or that he (it) is muddy. Or that the Cossacks in the LPR are also MUFFY. We will not write about this - but at least about the glands in the trenches should be.
  24. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 11 October 2017 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: uhu189
    There is no military solution already.

    The military decision was, is and will be, but it must ripen, ripen, ripen, even rot, and with one smell to impress and ward off the enemy! Now, as in my nose, it has only matured. At least until the ukronatsiks are cleaned from the buffer zone, with the weaning of all the iron that they lit there, and with the burning out of all the moronic that they pushed there. There are enough firepower in LDNR to burn out evil from this supposedly "demilitarized" zone, which has such a "status" for the "Minsk fake" that everyone needs. Expectations of internal decomposition in the Armed Forces and deadly enmity between normal and zombie ukronatsiky not justified themselves. THERE IS ONLY A MILITARY DECISION OF THIS MILITARY LAW QUESTION. Give the military demilitarization!
  25. a housewife
    a housewife 11 October 2017 13: 38
    0
    something often I began to recall the old-old cartoon, about matches, it seems, it’s called “Conflict” ...
  26. manne mann
    manne mann 11 October 2017 13: 40
    +2
    History has not even taught politicians in the Kremlin! We decided to agree with the Anglo-Saxons and Bandera, when on the other side the advantage! America has in the hands of Novorossia and access to the west-western border of Russia, sadists of Bandera in the hands of the Russian-speaking population of the so-called Ukraine! And with them we agree on peace! It is funny and sad at the same time! Without a war, nothing will work, in the 14th they overslept, although now we need to react in time, but better to agitate!
  27. Vadim Dovgalyuk-Kasimov
    Vadim Dovgalyuk-Kasimov 11 October 2017 13: 54
    +6
    I read a month ago the analytics of this author in the Pacific Fleet of Russia. There is the same alarmist tops - "Chef, everything is lost!". Is it really not clear that in the event of a military exacerbation in the Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be raked with known new types of weapons directly from the territory of the Russian Federation, and the Russians will say that this is the DPR Armed Forces successfully hit. Both in Kiev and in Washington know this very well. as they know that not only they can’t do anything, but they won’t even be able to voice it. If it were not so, then Russia would have been torn for a long time. Dot.
  28. misti1973
    misti1973 11 October 2017 14: 10
    0
    Well, it was necessary to solve the issues right away. Now they can have a war right next to us. Or they didn’t have to go to the Donbass at all. I think this “total genocide of the Russian population” seems like another propaganda trick. Nothing of the kind is observed in Ukraine.
  29. Indifferent
    Indifferent 11 October 2017 14: 12
    +5
    Strange article written. About everything a little and specifically about nothing. Alarcan mortars, even in the amount of 3000 pieces, will not change the situation on the theater. After all, we also need SUVs that cost a lot of money. We need prepared calculations that can shoot, hit, and wound up during time. And this is not a matter of one year. Yes, and with ammunition strained. You need to make or buy them. The Javelins in Syria and Iraq. But I did not hear them play a decisive role in the destruction of our tanks. There, in my opinion, a simple “Curtain” copes quite well. She will cope in the Donbass. In addition, the moral state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leaves much to be desired. In fact, they have long tuned in to who is stronger. Waltzman will win, they will go for him. Zakharchenko will start to win, they will surrender en masse. It is the Ukrainian soldiers themselves who speak openly. In fact, this is now an abscess, the rotting of which is tired of everyone. The sooner he breaks through - the better. What Ukrainians know that they themselves can not win. Hope in Europe and the USA. And those won't get into a fight. Although they need it, but not really. But they will be able to add sanctions to us and much more serious than now. But we really need it. The more sanctions, the better. Because the next crisis is not far off and the more we are cut off from global financial flows, the easier it is to survive another global crisis.
  30. Midshipman-53
    Midshipman-53 11 October 2017 14: 34
    +3
    So I want to say a strong word! But is this how to look? Who drove whom and where ?! Honestly, tired of this frantic chatter. If Eurogames and Ukrogeys from the USA are so bold, then why are the snot chewing ?! Forward! To "freedom" and "independence." And then we'll see who has wider pants ...
  31. Eurodav
    Eurodav 11 October 2017 14: 57
    +3
    Damantsev is a provocateur!
  32. Bosch
    Bosch 11 October 2017 15: 47
    0
    Interestingly, if the author Yevgeny Damantsev’s mother-in-law, wife and children lived in their own villa on the Cote d'Azur or Miami, did he write the same thing?
  33. vasilkovichi
    vasilkovichi 11 October 2017 15: 59
    +1
    Ukraine’s kapets. This is understandable. It is not clear how its history will end. They will tear apart, quietly, as they want in the EU, or throw them into the furnace of war with Russia, as the USA wants?
  34. Shchors take it
    Shchors take it 11 October 2017 16: 37
    0
    The Chapaevites called it a "psychic attack."
  35. VIa70286887
    VIa70286887 11 October 2017 16: 51
    +2
    Ukrainians are the same pisses as Georgians, because they don’t know what they are fighting for, if they don’t give a damn about Donbass and Ukrainians will not lose their lives when “Tse Europe”, “I’ll hide my hut, you’ll bach”
  36. Alex Tsargas
    Alex Tsargas 11 October 2017 19: 12
    +4
    Unlucky with the representatives of Russia in Ukraine, the current Gryzlov, like his leader in the party, D. Medvedev unfortunately did not shine with his mental abilities. One of his sayings - "The State Duma is not a place for discussion."
  37. Flyofwind
    Flyofwind 11 October 2017 19: 12
    +1
    The author doesn’t worry, America knows who Russia is, so the NATO troops on the border are like “Europe, we see we are protecting you”, etc. And as for the militant steppe ukrov, they won’t be able to fight without ammunition, oh, I can smell it soon, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo accidentally a couple of military depots will show us ukroferverk again. And Spain, and Spain ... In light of recent events, when Russia supported Spain, not Catalonia, it is POSSIBLE that the supply of arms to Ukraine will be reviewed, but this is purely subjective. Allahu akbar , Jesus is risen and all good.
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 11 October 2017 19: 56
      +3
      No matter . what Damantsev wrote. I think that very soon interesting and tragic events await us. Wangyu; they will try to take away the 2018 World Cup from us. and the best way is provocation. by analogy with a Boeing. So we are waiting for the APU attack on LDNR and the subsequent boycott of the World Cup and the expansion of sanctions against Russia. God bless me to make a mistake.
  38. puff
    puff 11 October 2017 20: 08
    +1
    Do not disgrace with such articles! What the hell is that? What are the hyacinths, what is the Russian army?
    The videoconferencing will ruin everything they find, and they will offer a protectorate to those who wish to separate. And the remnants of "Ukraine" will be repaying debts by the kidneys until they pay off!
  39. myobius59
    myobius59 11 October 2017 22: 17
    +1
    Oh, how many PERFECT specialists are missing from us both in the civilian sectors and in military affairs.
    All REAL specialists are in various forums on the Internet. "V.O" is just a storehouse of the smartest and most knowledgeable. On the ground, there are some mediocrity, dumbasses, bribe takers and loafers ...
    No, of course, anyone with us can express their opinion, for democracy. And reading comments is almost always much more interesting than the material itself. And almost always the author is wrong, not competent, and in general he would have written scripts for cartoons.
    Interesting and informative to read comments, much more interesting than articles. I even suspect that some articles do not even read at all, but immediately rush into battle, write comments. Some of this frankly admit that they couldn’t read it to the end, or there, they reduced the cheekbones, but commentary will still be taught.
    I like to read comments. Good health to all.
  40. Clone
    Clone 11 October 2017 23: 48
    0
    Quote: uhu189
    this is at least some attempt to avoid big blood

    Yeah ... it's, out of pity, to cut off the tail of a cat in parts.
  41. Normal ok
    Normal ok 11 October 2017 23: 59
    +1
    The whole article could be put in one phrase: the new law on Donbas is not profitable for LDNR. And that’s it. And there would be no need to write a lot of bukfs.
    Instead, screams that everything was gone plus a set of hackneyed stamps and unfounded statements like:
    illegally elected Ukrainian parliament

    Why is it not legitimate, even if the Russian authorities recognize it?
    This is not surprising, because the compilation of each of its items was carried out in coordination with the West European and American intelligence agencies.

    AUTHOR!!! Intelligence agencies do not draft bills; diplomats do this. If we talk about the "hand of the West", then it was necessary to write about the Foreign Ministry of the EEC and the State Department.
    the militarization of precisely that section of the East European theater of operations began, where all the prerequisites for a new escalation of the Moldavian-Transnistrian conflict appeared

    Complete nonsense! NATO is strengthening along the border with Russia. From the Baltic to the Black Sea.
    Russia is certainly not going to change the resolution sent to the UN Security Council under the American format, because this step will completely “kill” our geopolitical authority and kill more than 1,5 - 2 million people of the Donbass population

    Firstly, it is not known in what format the peacekeepers will converge. Perhaps there will be some compromise. And secondly, the author burying nothing worthless 2mln. man. There that the atomic bomb will be dropped?
    And this analysis ends with a listing of the merits of the Spanish mortar !!! Let me remind you - it seemed to start with an analysis of the new Ukrainian bill)))
    In general, the level of competence as that of the famous writer Gavrila: "and the waves fell by a rapid jack")))
  42. Yuri Gogin
    Yuri Gogin 12 October 2017 00: 12
    +4
    Generalissimus A.V. Suvorov would not have won a single battle if he had not mercilessly beat numerous enemies of Russia. The eye meter, speed, onslaught is his main principle. Minsk is sour snot - snot, it’s time to wipe them off and take decisive action in defense of LDNR.
    1. Oleg Tolstoy
      Oleg Tolstoy 12 October 2017 16: 57
      +1
      Are dwarf male Miller and Co ready for the cessation of European exports? Or, as always, are China overwhelmed? And then watching the fascinating process of dragging the southern pipe from Bulgaria to Turkey and back, I was completely confused wassat Everything was agitated so that the horses in the paroxysm of patriotism would not cut the old Urengoy pipe into needles and in order to keep Shell out of the gas in Slavyansk
    2. Oleg Tolstoy
      Oleg Tolstoy 12 October 2017 17: 20
      0
      But are the “dwarf male" Miller and Co ready for the cessation of European exports? Or, as always, the Chinese go crazy? And then watching the fascinating process of dragging the southern pipe from Bulgaria to Turkey and back, I was completely confused wassat Everything was aggravated so that the horses in the paroxysm of patriotism would not cut the old Urengoy pipe into needles and in order to keep Shell out of shale gas in Slavyansk. Win time on UP and SP-2
  43. Nemesis
    Nemesis 12 October 2017 01: 44
    +2
    The fact that all this fuss in Minsk is to the detriment of the Russian Federation and LDNR has long been understood. All these grandmother rumors in Minsk for a minute do not stop Bandera from destroying the Russian population of Donbass with shelling, arming and training new Bandera gangs. I have no doubt that the authors of Minsk are either very distant or working for Kiev, which is most likely.
  44. Den nn
    Den nn 12 October 2017 08: 17
    0
    Quote: bk316
    2A46 is not a howitzer at all. A very cannon. She has a barrel length of 50 calibers.

    Well, firstly, not 46 but 36.
    Secondly, I have written in the military commander howitzer guns 2a36.
    So geocint and gun and howitzer

    gun commander? !!))))))))))))))))))))
  45. Petrik66
    Petrik66 12 October 2017 13: 10
    0
    why forever issue these fake articles. That Strelkov broadcast - how much did he predict the collapse of the DNI and LC? Ten, twenty? That Murid karkal - Everything is gone .... Now again .... Everything is gone. All these articles are nothing more than a desire to draw attention to their personalities, to act as oracles and get their benefit on the Chernukha.
  46. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 12 October 2017 16: 47
    0
    Quote: Fylhtq
    The fact that the Minsk agreements were obviously losing, it was clear back in '14, they gave urine to rebuild their army and gain strength, now a quick defeat as at 14 would not work. And with these agreements, the Russian Federation drove itself into a certain framework, the observance of which is required of it.



    This is to say that Russia needs a military victory and landing in Kiev. But, excuse me, in 2014 it was impossible to do this!
    1. Fylhtq
      Fylhtq 20 October 2017 20: 10
      0
      In the year 14, it was necessary not to stop at Kalmius in front of Mariupol, but to take the whole Southeast, with Kharkov, Odessa and Zaporozhye. This is the deprivation of huge human, land and industrial resources, it is a land corridor to the Crimea, this is water in the same place. There would be a toothless dwarf with the capital in Kiev.
  47. Meshchersky
    Meshchersky 12 October 2017 19: 50
    0
    And who is this analyst Dolmantsev? Does it have a camouflage or leather sofa?
  48. Misha Bushmanov
    Misha Bushmanov 12 October 2017 21: 23
    0
    If there is a special status, then what illegal armed units are we talking about? Status and status in order to have their own aircraft.
  49. tank64rus
    tank64rus 13 October 2017 11: 48
    +1
    What are driven. Papers or trepidation in diplomatic circles. During the war, Ukrainians gained combat experience, but there was both no and no reasoned participation in the army. And Dobrobat, there besides stupid Svidomo full of crime, whose motivation is one to rob. So the fact that everyone who fights in the Donbass is very heterogeneous in composition and motivation. Therefore, everything will depend on who will stand to the end. LDNR will protect its families and homes. APU there are newcomers if they win this one, if they rake in full another.
  50. Bert
    Bert 14 October 2017 10: 09
    0
    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: vovanpain
    Author stop panic

    Never before in history have new state formations been formed according to the laws adopted by one of the warring parties.
    By contracts, etc., they draw up for the order the already existing real state of affairs.
    That is, as the leader of the world proletariat taught, when the tops of banderlogov cannot control the bottoms, which, in turn, cannot obey the tops as cannon fodder and source of income.
    And in order for it to become so necessary, it is not laws at all, with powerful and high-precision strikes on punishers of the ATO, economic restrictions and effective counter-propaganda.
    And the laws ... The laws will be rewritten as needed. yes

    The highest degree of moronity. The last stage. Already you can take to a psychiatric hospital. Have you ever thought what you wrote? There is only one single law of inviolability of borders. His poherish and said goodbye to Russia.