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US police unveiled new strange details of the tragedy in Las Vegas

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American police continue to publish the details of the tragic incident in Las Vegas, which killed 59 people and injured more than half a thousand more. And the more details the Nevada State Police Department publishes, the more questions the experts have about shooting people at a Las Vegas concert.


Recall that shooting at the audience of the concert of country music "Harvest" was opened by 64-year-old guest of the room at the hotel complex Mandalay-Bay Stephen Paddock. He shot from various species weapons from the window of the room on the 32 floor. This is the official version of what happened.

US police unveiled new strange details of the tragedy in Las Vegas


New details show that Paddock, who had previously managed to bring at least 32 trunks of small arms of various sizes to the 20-th floor of the hotel, approached the security guard about 6 minutes before the shooting. And he came up due to the fact that he heard "extraneous noise." According to police reports, Paddock, before starting the shooting, managed to drill holes in the wall of the hotel corridor and fasten a metal grill on the emergency exit door to delay the police. There is no information on how Paddock on the 32 floor raised a metal grille the size of a doorway, too.

The investigation materials contain information that the 64-year-old pensioner also used a drill to install surveillance cameras. One he set in the corridor of the hotel, the other - as a door peephole. At the same time on his computer (according to other data - on a smartphone) several images were displayed, with the help of which Paddock was going to track the arrival of the police.

But that's not all. In the wall of the hotel room, he managed to drill a hole in order to later shoot police through him who would be in the corridor.

How long it took Paddock to do all these operations until the “outside noise” heard by the guards is not reported. But it is reported that "in the direction" of the representative of the security service of the hotel Jesus Campos, the pensioner fired at least 200 bullets from automatic rifles. At the same time, Kampos remained alive and later testified.

After Paddock discharged several stores "in the direction of" the guard, he began to shoot at people at the concert venue. The shooting, according to police, lasted at least 11 minutes. At the same time, Paddock, as stated, also aimed at fuel tanks, which were located near the concert venue.

Recall that the responsibility for shooting in Las Vegas decided to take over the terrorist group ISIS (banned in Russia).
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  1. Warnoob
    Warnoob 10 October 2017 18: 42 New
    +7
    What struck me most about this story was that I learned about the existence of stocks that allowed you to shoot single at the speed of automatic fire.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 10 October 2017 19: 08 New
      37
      And me, that an elderly person did a job of at least 3 healthy and skillful men. The accountant drilled the walls, and performed ballistic calculations, and inserted the cameras, and he was going to flush, but it didn’t work out. Everything is very strange here.
      1. Warnoob
        Warnoob 10 October 2017 19: 25 New
        +2
        That's what it means to get ready. Something like Breivik. It is good that terrorists do not use such tactics.
        1. Logall
          Logall 10 October 2017 19: 35 New
          43
          And in my opinion, the National Security Agency simply found Henry Oswald.
          In order not to make a fuss ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 10 October 2017 19: 41 New
            11
            A lot of muddy and it seems like the truth we will never know.
            1. Logall
              Logall 10 October 2017 19: 44 New
              18
              If only after solving the `` Kennedy assassination ''! Not earlier...
              1. cniza
                cniza 10 October 2017 19: 46 New
                +3
                The whole queue can already be made up ... lol
                1. Logall
                  Logall 10 October 2017 20: 08 New
                  15
                  I agree, it will be a very long line ...
                  For example, I’m very interested about Listyev!
                  1. just exp
                    just exp 10 October 2017 20: 11 New
                    +5
                    perhaps this is just another episode played out by special services in order for the population of the mattress to give up weapons.
                    supposedly from him some problems.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 10 October 2017 20: 21 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Logall
                      I agree, it will be a very long line ...
                      For example, I’m very interested about Listyev!


                      Also an "interesting" riddle, and September 11th ...
                      1. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 10 October 2017 21: 10 New
                        +4
                        And from where astrologers told exactly the day of his death to Ivan the Terrible, it’s also interesting. He was healthy, played chess for himself, chuckling at the foretellers. And suddenly bam - died. And his personal doctor, by the way, was an Englishman.
                  2. Diplomat x
                    Diplomat x 10 October 2017 20: 43 New
                    +2
                    In queue. Head of the GRU of the Russian Federation, General Igor Sergun. In Lebanon
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 10 October 2017 22: 41 New
                      +2
                      And this is an internal betrayal. As with the other general recently ... They were in the same department. hi
                  3. Alex777
                    Alex777 10 October 2017 22: 39 New
                    +2
                    There Lisovsky’s ears ...
                  4. anjey
                    anjey 11 October 2017 05: 58 New
                    0
                    nothing interesting Yeltsin, Berezovsky and .....
                2. Monos
                  Monos 10 October 2017 20: 12 New
                  +6
                  Quote: cniza
                  The whole queue can already be made up ... lol

                  Greetings, Victor! hi
                  I have one question: "Why?". Why did someone need to arrange this massacre? And the answer to this question can be very unpleasant. I will not be surprised if A. measures draw a "Russian trace".
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 10 October 2017 20: 20 New
                    +3
                    Greetings Teska! hi , they’ve arranged a multi-way, and then information appears or connections are discovered, etc.
                  2. Dryuya2
                    Dryuya2 10 October 2017 20: 34 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Monos
                    I would not be surprised if A. measures draw a "Russian trace".

                    and why not North Korea or Iran what
                    1. Monos
                      Monos 10 October 2017 21: 05 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Dryuya2
                      and why not North Korea or Iran

                      Yes, maybe it can be ...
                    2. Arzoo
                      Arzoo 10 October 2017 21: 41 New
                      +3
                      and why not North Korea or Iran what

                      There is no smoke without fire. No one will believe in the DPRK. Now, if he suganul ballistic missile, then yes.

                      It’s hard to say what it was. So far, this is playing against Trump, who says that Muslims and Hispanics are to blame. There is a white, elderly, unremarkable man.

                      Communication with ISIS is doubtful. No evidence.
                  3. APASUS
                    APASUS 11 October 2017 20: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Monos
                    I have one question: "Why?". Why did someone need to arrange this massacre? And the answer to this question can be very unpleasant. I won’t be surprised if A. measures draw a “Russian trace”

                    And we quickly find out by the reaction to the disclosure and by all the rules of the detective, the denouement should be soon and by this reaction we will understand the motive and goals.
                    I doubted immediately the presence of this person. Too everything was produced professionally, for a person with an accounting education.
                    I was confused only by the selection of weapons
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 11 October 2017 05: 38 New
              +9
              Quote: cniza
              A lot of muddy and it seems like the truth we will never know.

              One I heard that the hotel was called "Mandalay" ???? What a word ....
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 10 October 2017 20: 30 New
            +5
            I support. Familiar with one voice - "pure cinema" and 23 barrels and 2000 rounds of ammunition, and prepared for defense like real terrorists and the police instead of 32 floors cooked for 29 minutes, although the guard at the door had already been shot.
            It’s much more logical - as in one American film, “accountants are forced to come, to go where and when necessary,” where he then successfully “self-shot” (well, if not 12 stabs in the back).
            Well, if with Kennedy we understand now to whom it was beneficial and to whom it was dangerous (the whole clan). So there is nothing obvious so far, except for September 11, 2.0 for the next law on tightening the screws. Perhaps for right up to a ban on weapons !! request
            1. alexng
              alexng 10 October 2017 21: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Mih1974
              .., where he then successfully “self-shot” (well, if not 12 stabbed in the back).


              "self-shot" with two single shots to his head.
        2. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 10 October 2017 20: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: WarNoob
          It is good that terrorists do not use such tactics.

          11 September ? winked
        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 10 October 2017 21: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: WarNoob
          Something like Breivik.

          Breivik wrote the Talmud My War. Searched, did not find.
      2. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 10 October 2017 19: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: Alex777
        And me, that an elderly person did a job of at least 3 healthy and skillful men. The accountant drilled the walls, and performed ballistic calculations, and inserted the cameras, and he was going to flush, but it didn’t work out. Everything is very strange here.

        In my opinion, grandfather was just tired of life and really loved weapons ..! And he didn’t like the music on the contrary .. Such shooting in the USA is not uncommon and periodically happens!
        But this one was a professional, he calculated everything .. And shoot at the crowd with a bunch of automatic weapons, and even to the sound of music .. And if I were shooting solo ones? There were many drinkers and fell and fell .. Nobody would have paid much attention.
        In short, my grandfather, the roof went and decided to become famous .. And he did it!
        Now he’s burning in hell and it was his coolest entertainment .. Damn old, that he lacked. Bastard!
      3. iouris
        iouris 11 October 2017 00: 14 New
        0
        And me - that for shooting at a huge crowd of people it is necessary to carry out ballistic calculations ...
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 October 2017 20: 49 New
      +6
      Somewhere I’ve heard something about different wunderwafes. Ended up with what? My dad, which I'm proud of ....
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    4. Sasha71
      Sasha71 10 October 2017 21: 48 New
      10
      1. With the modern capabilities of special services, not taking the shooter alive means a desire to hide customers.
      2. There are records on which SIMULTANEOUS firing of 2 units of automatic weapons is heard.
      3. Terrorist attacks do not cause anything but hatred of customers. The leaders of "terrorist organizations" are not such as to not understand this. , apparently - viewers of TV and the media who eat these pasta about the "terrorists". 99% of all "terrorist attacks" are ordered and executed by certain intelligence services. Mostly the USA.
      The real terrorists were the Narodniks, landowners, Socialist-Revolutionaries, who killed the first persons and senior officials of the state, pursuing political goals. Now the special services are mowing down the common people like a ram for the sake of influencing the crowd and along the way to maintain animal fear, which makes society more manageable.
    5. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 11 October 2017 06: 47 New
      +1
      and where was this pretzel on the day the kenedy was killed? did he have an alibi for this day?
  2. Mwg
    Mwg 10 October 2017 18: 43 New
    +8
    Another provocation of the NSA. And for what, we learn later, in the course of events.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 10 October 2017 18: 50 New
      13
      Quote: MVG
      Another provocation of the NSA. And for what, we learn later, in the course of events.

      And it doesn’t matter. There are more than 20 special services in the USA. Any private VK could organize a provocation. On the next branch there is even more interesting infa: a former FBI officer, a security systems specialist, helped to install the shooter cameras, killed a disabled girl by rolling her out in a wheelchair in the street and then shooting herself in the back of the head (to himself!) From a gun 12 gauge. There is also a link to witnesses who heard shooting from two different types of weapons. On one of the videos on our TV, I also heard shooting from 2 different types of weapons. Typically, the wife of a former suicide bomber fbi was home and did not hear two shots from a 12-gauge gun (!).
  3. RASKAT
    RASKAT 10 October 2017 18: 47 New
    +9
    Yes, at least 100 rifles, a man was a millionaire over the past year, earned 5 million. He lived in a suite, plus around the same time there was an arms festival in Las Vegas, I think Peddock was not the only hotel guest with a bunch of trunks. If anyone does not know what weapon festivals in the USA are, here is an example for you.
    Interesting after 23:00 minutes (who have little time). I am still surprised that the killer did not put machine guns and heavy weapons into use. It’s just that the peasant’s roof fell off.
    1. Popovich
      Popovich 10 October 2017 20: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: RASKAT
      I’m still surprised that the killer did not put machine guns and heavy weapons into use.

      yeah type manually ~ 800 reloaded laughing
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 10 October 2017 20: 59 New
      +2
      belay Mother of May, and if this crazy nut on the balcony of the DShK was dragged? Yes, he would have minced all 20 thousand people who had covered the people at the concert. crying negative
    3. san4es
      san4es 10 October 2017 21: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: RASKAT
      Interesting after 23:00 minutes

      ... It’s strange that somebody didn’t drive up on the tank ... to shoot request
    4. Alexdark
      Alexdark 10 October 2017 22: 13 New
      +3
      Here it is, the most peaceful nation in the world))). The robbers were and they remained ... An incredible concentration of aggression. It is not for nothing that antidepressants are swallowed throughout the country.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 11 October 2017 20: 25 New
      0
      Quote: RASKAT
      . It’s just that the peasant’s roof fell off.

      Whoever went to the roof - they spoil at the corners, but do not make calculations to the goal
  4. HEATHER
    HEATHER 10 October 2017 18: 48 New
    +6
    Shtatniks forgot to add five Russian snipers and a man with a dozen of them covering up. Well, a couple of hundred FSB agents.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 10 October 2017 20: 40 New
      0
      Quote: VERESK
      Shtatniks forgot to add five Russian snipers and a man with a dozen of them covering up. Well, a couple of hundred FSB agents.

      Not yet evening. They will add.
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 10 October 2017 18: 49 New
    15
    A 64-year-old pensioner has a capacity for work, like a platoon of soldiers. Amazingly simple.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 10 October 2017 18: 56 New
      +2
      experience he is
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 10 October 2017 19: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: c-Petrov
        experience he is

        but that's where he got it from. straight special forces
        1. Popovich
          Popovich 10 October 2017 20: 07 New
          0
          Riga, Moscow, Kiev ...
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 10 October 2017 20: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: c-Petrov
        experience he is

        An even more interesting infa surfaced that the “shooter” was finally not seen at any shooting ranges, did he buy and carry this weapon? And then, for a whole week, the maid in the room did not clean and did not change clothes ??? Is it possible in a VIP hotel?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 10 October 2017 21: 44 New
          +3
          Yes, they are all sick there. what are you asking me. they will answer for Belgrade bastards

          all of them in a nuclear fire to the Sanguine mother laughing wassat

          I generally disregard mattresses. they are evil and frostbitten. they should be brought down with Serbs, Koreans and Latinos. The whole crowd. Kuzma and VKS there should also be off the coast of Florida wassat am

          I’m also ready for mobilization and tarpaulin boots in the closet and the folded bag lies on the couch, and whatever it is, the OZK official will give me a state with a gas mask. maybe they’ll give a quick car with a sunroof laughing

          they are generally lucky that we do not have a land border. would have sprinkled Americans after a disco around the corners since childhood
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 10 October 2017 21: 57 New
            0
            for them, this waste is generally normal

            here vidos fire. here it is the US police and residents and generally tin of course. usa is really evil.
            Wherever they spit they do real evil. The US must be destroyed. And the funniest thing will start later. When the singers will be left face to face with those from whom they roofed the USA =]



            and then they like to show a video about how culturally asked to show documents. I mean below

            1. RussKamikadZE
              RussKamikadZE 10 October 2017 23: 23 New
              +2
              Inhale, exhale. Maybe a little let go. You look less nonsense at VO will.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 10 October 2017 23: 24 New
                +2
                Of course I was joking, but in every joke =] Yes, and Serbs with Latinos with pleasure laughing

                Eun won't pass by either. check to what heights his rockets will reach

    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 10 October 2017 20: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Egorovich
      A 64-year-old pensioner has a capacity for work, like a platoon of soldiers. Amazingly simple.

      lol lol lol good good good
  6. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 10 October 2017 18: 57 New
    +9
    Tragedy - no words. How many such frost-bitten wanders there, only God knows. But, in my opinion, the most important Stephen Paddock is now sitting in the White House.
    ... now if he starts to "shoot" ...
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 10 October 2017 19: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      But, in my opinion, the most important Stephen Paddock is now sitting in the White House.

      sat. so black. peaceful laureate. and this current waves its fists in the air and the air spoils
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 10 October 2017 21: 41 New
        +7
        You see, in my opinion, it is better not to give a grenade to a monkey ....
        The White House is still not a place where you can swing your fists ...
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 10 October 2017 20: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      Tragedy - no words. How many such frost-bitten wanders there, only God knows. But, in my opinion, the most important Stephen Paddock is now sitting in the White House.
      ... now if he starts to "shoot" ...

      tragedy, not tragedy, but at least they will feel at least a small fraction of what people in other countries are doing !!!
  7. assa67
    assa67 10 October 2017 18: 58 New
    +9
    a muddy story ... and how did he turn it all away alone? .. a bunch of trunks, grills, cameras .... something doesn't converge
  8. 32363
    32363 10 October 2017 19: 04 New
    +4
    there is a bunch of video where you can see that the shooting was from the lower floor, 5 or 6
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 10 October 2017 19: 13 New
      +2
      by bullets (collapse?) and you can determine the angle
    2. HEATHER
      HEATHER 10 October 2017 19: 24 New
      +4
      there is a bunch of video where you can see that the shooting was from the lower floor, 5 or 6 Please provide me. Namely floors by you voiced.from the ground floor From which bottom? In Minus 2? Don’t be stupid. If you have a military education, you will understand a lot. But no way. Do not climb where you are not invited. Even from the 5,6th floor, it is impossible to tumble down so much. Only from the top.
      1. Popovich
        Popovich 10 October 2017 20: 06 New
        0
        with ballistics at you, my friend is bad ... take a walk in the shooting range (pneumatic, for starters)
      2. 32363
        32363 10 October 2017 20: 09 New
        +7
        Quote: VERESK
        there is a bunch of video where you can see that the shooting was from the lower floor, 5 or 6 Please provide me. Namely floors by you voiced.from the ground floor From which bottom? In Minus 2? Don’t be stupid. If you have a military education, you will understand a lot. But no way. Do not climb where you are not invited. Even from the 5,6th floor, it is impossible to tumble down so much. Only from the top.

        shooting in a dense crowd of a couple of tens of thousands of people is better not from above, but just from the bottom., which means do not be stupid, do not stupidly be a military man himself, we have met such people more than once.
        and this is vidos for you.
        https://cont.ws/@skuratoff/732661
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 10 October 2017 20: 36 New
          +4
          No need to run into Heather! Although he is not a gunner-radio operator, but a techie, he will not speak in vain. And henceforth, with expressions more carefully.
          1. 32363
            32363 11 October 2017 00: 40 New
            +5
            Quote: sabakina
            No need to run into Heather! Although he is not a gunner-radio operator, but a techie, he will not speak in vain. And henceforth, with expressions more carefully.

            let him follow the broom, tell me if you are his lawyer.
        2. HEATHER
          HEATHER 10 October 2017 20: 59 New
          +4
          , we met these more than once. A little brain brains. From a height, a big perspective opens. I won’t explain further. Because you’re not just a layman, you’re absolutely incomprehensible. And poke your friend. You just like me. .Rotik cover. Otherwise it will be shitty. Nobody forbids us to come to Germany.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 10 October 2017 21: 15 New
            +5
            Dim hi no need to break anything. It is necessary to behave so that it would be:

            We will use force only in person!
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              1. Logall
                Logall 10 October 2017 21: 32 New
                13
                Great buddy!
                Grandfather made a noise, you decided to make noise, too !?
                Take a look at the mail
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                4. HEATHER
                  HEATHER 10 October 2017 21: 56 New
                  +2
                  .............. Cooling down.
          2. 32363
            32363 11 October 2017 00: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: VERESK
            [b], With such a flag. Cover the mouth. Otherwise it will be shitty. Nobody forbids us to come to Germany.

            you’ll come pick up.
          3. Conductor
            Conductor 11 October 2017 04: 23 New
            +1
            and 32 floor how many meters? probably under 100, and tapericha, 100 meters high, but range. A little bit, from another sphere, during World War II, the Italians preferred to bomb convoys from the heights, read the result on the net, but the top-mast bombing or torpedo bombers, the result is different ..
    3. max702
      max702 10 October 2017 20: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: 32363
      there is a bunch of video where you can see that the shooting was from the lower floor, 5 or 6

      This their TV showed a video where the shooting is conducted from 10 floors. there was a delayed action and analysis, everything was .. it’s just another September 11th ... Someone in the USA really doesn’t like the second amendment, and hundreds of millions of trunks in the hands of the population ...
      1. 32363
        32363 10 October 2017 20: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: max702
        Quote: 32363
        there is a bunch of video where you can see that the shooting was from the lower floor, 5 or 6

        This their TV showed a video where the shooting is conducted from 10 floors. there was a delayed action and analysis, everything was .. it’s just another September 11th ... Someone in the USA really doesn’t like the second amendment, and hundreds of millions of trunks in the hands of the population ...

        I agree, but here is the video where grandpa just walking around the casino falls out of the blue, what’s wrong with him, is he drunk?
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 10 October 2017 19: 07 New
    +8
    And how many noodles do the Yankees hang on to us? lol , give them only free rein, so they will invent such a fairy tale - all storytellers of mankind will turn out to be amateurs in comparison with the US special services. ! lol
  10. John Doe
    John Doe 10 October 2017 19: 07 New
    +2
    A terrible tragedy, as one madman can take so many lives to the next world ....
    1. Popovich
      Popovich 10 October 2017 20: 03 New
      +4
      not one, one is a sacred sacrifice, like Oswald ....
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 10 October 2017 20: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: John Doe
      A terrible tragedy, as one madman can take so many lives to the next world ....

      Is he?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 10 October 2017 20: 43 New
        +5
        Baloo, just Baloo, at least kill me, I heard the simultaneous shooting of two types of weapons. (there was a case, identified by the voice of the criminals, I just had a rumor musical).
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 11 October 2017 08: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Baloo, just Baloo, at least kill me, I heard the simultaneous shooting of two types of weapons. (there was a case, identified by the voice of the criminals, I just had a rumor musical).

          It’s hard for me to judge civilians, but it seemed to me that after all they were two different weapons at the same time, the pace was different. Although this topic is not the most interesting for me. I don’t think the truth will ever come up. In the Kennedy case, two dozen witnesses whose testimony diverged from the official during the year either died or disappeared without a trace. And so far, not everything is classified. Question No. 1 - bullets from Kennedy’s head, recovered in the morgue of a military hospital where?
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 10 October 2017 20: 25 New
      11
      Quote: John Doe
      A terrible tragedy, as one madman can take so many lives to the next world ....

      your one madman in the UN Security Council, after shaking a fake test tube, started a massacre of millions of lives .... so there’s nothing to make a victim of yourself here !!! negative negative negative
      1. vearey
        vearey 10 October 2017 20: 33 New
        +1
        after shaking the fake tube
        And what was the test tube fake?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 10 October 2017 20: 45 New
          +9
          Quote: vearey
          after shaking the fake tube
          And what was the test tube fake?

          There were no chemical weapons in the test tube.
          1. vearey
            vearey 10 October 2017 21: 01 New
            +1
            There were no chemical weapons in the test tube.
            And who said that in vitro chemical weapons?
          2. vearey
            vearey 11 October 2017 09: 35 New
            0
            There were no chemical weapons in the test tube.
            Indeed, it was not chemical weapons. But he did not say that this was a chemical weapon, he said that such a quantity was enough to paralyze the work. Where did you go? And especially these geniuses are here below.
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 10 October 2017 20: 47 New
          +7
          Quote: vearey
          And what was the test tube fake?

          Yes, he lied that it contained the chemical weapons of Saddam (the deceased). And after the ruin of Iraq, this weapon was never found. Vaapsche. Aren't you up to date on the topic?
          1. vearey
            vearey 10 October 2017 21: 02 New
            +1
            Aren't you up to date on the topic?
            And who said that in vitro chemical weapons?
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 10 October 2017 21: 07 New
              +8
              but why did he shake it and what was contained in it according to your "ingenious" thought ??? lol lol lol
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            3. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 10 October 2017 21: 31 New
              +3
              “However, analyzing the transcript of the UN Security Council meeting, where Powell struck the“ drum of war ”, one can find that Powell’s main statements are not documented facts indicating the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or active production, but suggestions that the Iraqi authorities However, the American media took this information literally, and within a few minutes after the very test tube appeared in the frame, the origin of which, by the way, was not revealed, the American media burst with sensational headlines. "Was launched. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/articles/37388125/?utm_co
              ntent = rnews & utm_medium = read_more & utm_sour
              ce = copylink
              Well, and so it is ...
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 10 October 2017 21: 11 New
            +5
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: vearey
            And what was the test tube fake?

            Yes, he lied that it contained the chemical weapons of Saddam (the deceased). And after the ruin of Iraq, this weapon was never found. Vaapsche. Aren't you up to date on the topic?

            yes he is a troll ... even after that he walks with a sad face about the supposedly greatest tragedy in the form of a simple execution by a democrat democratic !!! wassat wassat wassat
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 10 October 2017 23: 55 New
              +5
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              yes he is a troll ...

              Clear business. It ran here "daughters of the Crimean officer." And IN - not rubber.
              And this character will need to be remembered and, on occasion, sharpen claws about him. For not figs! stop
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 11 October 2017 00: 48 New
                +6
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                Quote: Nikolai Grek
                yes he is a troll ...

                Clear business. It ran here "daughters of the Crimean officer." And IN - not rubber.
                And this character will need to be remembered and, on occasion, sharpen claws about him. For not figs! stop

                lol lol lol good good good
    4. HEATHER
      HEATHER 10 October 2017 21: 10 New
      +3
      Terrible tragedy Beginning of the End?
  11. Sultan
    Sultan 10 October 2017 19: 11 New
    +5
    How does this look like a pind..sow - to commit provocations against their citizens and ineptly blame them on a pensioner ...
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 11 October 2017 11: 10 New
      0
      How better to tell you about sugar in Ryazan ...
  12. XXXIII
    XXXIII 10 October 2017 19: 13 New
    +3
    A classic American conspiracy, what purpose was unknown, but there are victims ... bully
  13. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 10 October 2017 19: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Alex777
    And me, that an elderly person did a job of at least 3 healthy and skillful men. The accountant drilled the walls, and performed ballistic calculations, and inserted the cameras, and he was going to flush, but it didn’t work out. Everything is very strange here.

    Here it is!
  14. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 10 October 2017 19: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: RASKAT
    Yes, at least 100 rifles, a man was a millionaire over the past year, earned 5 million. He lived in a suite, plus around the same time there was an arms festival in Las Vegas, I think Peddock was not the only hotel guest with a bunch of trunks. If anyone does not know what weapon festivals in the USA are, here is an example for you.
    Interesting after 23:00 minutes (who have little time). I am still surprised that the killer did not put machine guns and heavy weapons into use. It’s just that the peasant’s roof fell off.

    Nah ... America rots, God bless her ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 10 October 2017 20: 50 New
      +4
      I looked a little, but didn’t understand what they were doing. recourse
      1. Logall
        Logall 10 October 2017 21: 00 New
        13
        Glory, hello!
        Quote: sabakina
        I looked a little, but didn’t understand what they were doing. recourse

        I don’t know, but in my opinion, they simply suffer from garbage ... I wasted my time!
  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 10 October 2017 19: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: John Doe
    A terrible tragedy, as one madman can take so many lives to the next world ....

    Very scary ... Didn’t it hurt you? What ended up there? Freedom sniffed?
    And where does "one madman" if anyone can acquire a firearm? Hawaii, democracy, here it is in all its glory !!! Sorry for the cynicism, but to the flawed and the corresponding attitude ...
  16. Anton Capucin
    Anton Capucin 10 October 2017 19: 46 New
    +3
    There is a jounalist in America, his name is Alex Jones. In my opinion, he spoke very well about this. He has a pure American look, peculiar of course, but that's all about the case.
    Opposition to Trump does not sleep and crushes his supporters. The story is muddy, and the official version is very full of holes.
    It’s a pity that only people shot as targets.
  17. pexotinec
    pexotinec 10 October 2017 19: 57 New
    0
    Yes, the special services decided to play on this and put it as a terrorist attack. As if they didn’t kick the Koreans yet.
  18. Popovich
    Popovich 10 October 2017 20: 01 New
    +3
    There’s such a picture here, it’s like on the 32nd floor - and on the video - they make fun of the 10th and other wings of the building ...
    while the video is here:
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 10 October 2017 21: 11 New
      0
      “self-erasing”, “this is a photo-installation of Russian hackers”, etc.
    2. rotor
      rotor 10 October 2017 21: 37 New
      0
      There seem to be no balconies and dull windows are intact on the 10th floor. It can be, for example, a strobe at a disco.
      And these videos are full on YouTube:


  19. PalBor
    PalBor 10 October 2017 21: 08 New
    +2
    No wonder the liberals scream that America is a wonderland!
  20. groks
    groks 10 October 2017 21: 19 New
    +2
    If there were several shooters, this would give a serious difference in the number of cartridges. To conceal this, it will be necessary to involve completely strangers into the plot. The difference in the trajectories, which again will require .... And so on .. Why?
    Not a very adequate person can be led to an act and he will think that this is his personal decision. To release the required amount of automatic weapons without reloading magazines, but changing weapons - no problem.
    With the installation of the grille is certainly cool. And with other things. But this suggests that he was going to fight to the last. And he suddenly shot himself.
    They will probably begin to tighten their weapons. Then you can kind of assume a provocation. But. It will not work to do anything particularly radical and quick. Do not understand the population. Such post-shootings are not enough. And the Russian trace here is not good, but bad. Not an option if they want to achieve a reduction in arms. It is then necessary to arrange a series of provocations and then to announce emergencies throughout the country.
    Is there a massive mass media noise? Speeches by politicians, artists, with the requirements to select weapons? There is no such thing. So rather just crazy.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 10 October 2017 23: 54 New
      0
      So rather just crazy.

      I agree. There is still a thought, but first I’ll read it to the end of my respected colleagues.
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 10 October 2017 21: 35 New
    +2
    Yeah, soon they will find SMS-ku on the phone from "VVP": "Mochi ih!"
  22. Allitet
    Allitet 10 October 2017 22: 36 New
    0
    Too bad people! When will the Americans stop flirting with terrorism! A very dangerous game! And the sea will not save! But they raised a snake on their chest!
  23. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 10 October 2017 23: 01 New
    0
    The shooter used an interesting weapon (I don’t believe that this is one man’s business)
  24. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 10 October 2017 23: 19 New
    0
    Here is such a stray used a shooter .. arrows. [media = https: //m.youtube.com/watch? v = hCCT8JtwQeI &
    time_continue = 74]
  25. Silver Fox
    Silver Fox 10 October 2017 23: 42 New
    0
    The worst is yet to come for his followers! Somewhere now another crazy man admires his act
  26. Kerensky
    Kerensky 11 October 2017 00: 00 New
    +2
    Comrades. There is such a thing: "quiet"? How long will it take to collect bullets and cartridges (the number should converge), several examinations on "dirty" material. This is a breakthrough work.
    It is necessary to watch the biography of the victims. Suddenly there is a key ....
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 October 2017 01: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Kerensky
      It is necessary to watch the biography of the victims. Suddenly there is a key ....

      The victim is a crowd of country music lovers.
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      2. Kerensky
        Kerensky 11 October 2017 09: 45 New
        0
        The victim is a crowd of country music lovers.

        The crowd is made up of individuals. Anyone could be among these people. All media are interested in the number of victims, but I think about "quality" ...
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 11 October 2017 11: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: Kerensky
          The victim is a crowd of country music lovers.

          The crowd is made up of individuals. Anyone could be among these people. All media are interested in the number of victims, but I think about "quality" ...

          The victim could have been killed under the guise of another weapon outside the firing zone hypothetically.
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 11 October 2017 16: 33 New
            0
            yes hi
            What am I talking about ?!
      3. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 11 October 2017 11: 06 New
        0
        always the chuyka told me not to listen to country ...
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 11 October 2017 11: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Ace Tambourine
          always the chuyka told me not to listen to country ...

          And I like country when without electronics on acoustics.
  27. DimanC
    DimanC 11 October 2017 03: 44 New
    0
    Yes, yes, we remember one such shooter: he shot at a monstrous pace with a store rifle and hit his target first from behind and then from the front. And the goal, we note, was driving in a car at that time ...
    _____________________
    Apparently, the American country elite still won’t get over it, so they decided to once again give a warning
  28. White and fluffy
    White and fluffy 11 October 2017 04: 55 New
    0
    This crank and not light up ... This can not be!
  29. Sars
    Sars 11 October 2017 05: 19 New
    0
    There was information that the shooting was carried out from several drones, and the corpse of my grandfather was after freezing in the refrigerator.

    And now, why was this operation needed? These events are a continuation of the demolition of the monuments of the generals - southerners.
    America is rocking to a state of civil war. Between whites, supporters of certain values ​​(including country) and color ones - cosmopolitans (with values ​​- piderastia, Coca-Cola, freedom of parrots).
    1. White and fluffy
      White and fluffy 11 October 2017 06: 00 New
      +1
      Surprised and delighted at the presence of such information.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 11 October 2017 08: 39 New
        +1
        Enchanting flight of thought, I’ll go get a drip of anti-crunch, otherwise I won’t survive this news:
        SarS Today, 05:19 AM New
        There was information that the shooting was carried out from several drones, and the corpse of my grandfather was after freezing in the refrigerator.
        And now, why was this operation needed? These events are a continuation of the demolition of the monuments of the generals - southerners.
        America is rocking to a state of civil war. Between whites, supporters of certain values ​​(including country) and color ones - cosmopolitans (with values ​​- piderastia, Coca-Cola, freedom of parrots).
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 11 October 2017 11: 05 New
          +1
          and tires, tires there is not blown? ...
        2. Popovich
          Popovich 11 October 2017 21: 00 New
          0
          and let's quote, immediately the entire page (or site), otherwise only one koment .. somehow childish!
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  31. den3080
    den3080 11 October 2017 07: 40 New
    0
    there is such an idiom of Finnish 'sohva perunat' - 'sofa potatoes' literally. that fully applies to the author of this note and to those who comment on it wink
  32. kaschey
    kaschey 11 October 2017 08: 44 New
    +2
    Framed grandfather.
    Crude work.
    Why didn’t they drag the abrams into the room?
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 11 October 2017 11: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: kaschey
      Framed grandfather.
      Crude work.
      Why didn’t they drag the abrams into the room?

      Abrams is stuck in traffic on 11th Avenue
  33. seos
    seos 11 October 2017 10: 43 New
    0
    Clever caught ..
  34. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 11 October 2017 11: 02 New
    +1
    Why conspire conspiracy theories?
    Well, the roof went down from the forehead .. Many here, in the VO, saliva spray for a short barrel, here it is for you ... When complete freedom ... sooner or later shoots ..
    I don’t have a weapon for nothing, just a little thing would have been safe for the safety of chickens and other animals
    A few years ago, a black kite was eaten by mnu;